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Walmart ordered 5. they have 5000 trucks. this is a non event.
As someone who works (hard) in the part of finance you're describing, it's a mix of a few things. From a purely intellectual standpoint, it's a very hard, very interesting quantitative/modeling problem to solve (ie. predict the price N seconds in the future is non-trivial). It's an extremely competitive field (you vs. other teams like you in the world competing for a slice of the pie), and you get results back from your experiments very quickly, so you know exactly where you stand. And finally, to your following point --

>Also, I'm unable to make myself do work if I don't see it contributing to some greater vision or cause

This simply is not something I experience. I've never felt any particular satisfaction from that particular aspect of a job, it's just something that never crosses my mind and incentive me in any way.
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Maybe it’s not unreasonable, but unrealistic?
Before you get too excited, ordering 10 trucks as a test doesn't mean fleet orders will happen. It depends on how well they do.
During the unveiling Musk's cost was 1.51/mile for diesel semi, 1.21/m for Tesla @2.5/diesel & $.07/kwh.

But a bit of Googling says avg. US prices are $.12/kwh, so $2.07/mile--133% the cost of a diesel semi.

So is Tesla able to negotiate subsidized rates? Or are buyers purchasing for some other reason? Or is somehing way off here? 0
It's something - means they're interested in checking it out at least. Obviously they're not going to order 1000 off the bat. (Also, they ordered 15 total - 10 for Canada.)
So you solution (highlighted in point 4) is to move to a Western country and become part of the problem?
Almost all German supermarkets actually support them. It's just the banks that don't offer it. If you make use of your EU freedoms and open an account abroad you could use Android/Apple Pay in Germany.
Doesn't really help unless you build the software yourself, though, and even then only after you've audited the source. And, if we're going down that rabbit hole, with a compiler you've compiled yourself after auditing the source. Using a compiler you... well, you get the point.
This is only 15 trucks in Wal-mart's fleet of thousands. I wonder how longer the delivery is on these limited orders, given they have failed so badly in meeting delivery for their other models? One thing I find interesting about Tesla is that it has immense cash burn, and in a way is doing a backdoor capital raise by taking preorders.

I think Tesla is a great company, but their cash burn is frighteningly high.

Off topic, but Tesla also started selling USB powerbanks and I really want one. I have a feeling it's no more special than other powerbanks, but...Tesla.

I guess in the end, Tesla can get away with a lot because people believe in the brand. I believe in the brand, I just am skeptical about its balance sheet or its current stock valuation.
That an electric semi would be used in the same manner as conventional fossil fuel-powered semis is what you believe you’ve correctly predicted? Or am I missing something?
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What's the big deal with consciousness? Isn't it an obvious trait of any human like, animal like, robot like semi-intelligent being? I'd expect it to emerge automatically, once correct base instincts & abilities are programmed.
It's not like we always have the choice not to upgrade, either because of security (IoT anyone?), because one of the giant's shoulder a software has been built on has gone wild or has its own security fix to deploy (https://github.com/blog/2470-introducing-security-alerts-on-...), or just because updates are automatically installed and it's too late when you realize it's broken :-/

Edit: Android devices does not suffer from this fever, btw. How good. Really. https://danluu.com/android-updates/
Let's just say, dear God, I hope not.
Whataboutism is nonsense, and I am going to demonstrate what it's like to refuse to engage with people acting in bad faith... now.
>Whatever the reason was, that a family or people where able to accumulate that much wealth: I believe, there should be an upper limit.

And what should that upper limit be? Who decides what it is, and how do we ensure that people powerful enough to get close to that limit don't simply play financial games to skirt these rules?

If the source of my wealth is unrealized capital coming from ownership of a company I founded, what am I supposed to do if my wealth nears the cap? What is to prevent bad actors from inflating my stock price to force me to sell? If I hold my companies privately, who decides what they are worth and by proxy how much wealth I possess?
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No, you might then argue that. :) Look how Uber’s behavior with paging and canceling Lyft rides during their poaching days came back to bite them in the ass. And I’m sure if Amazon’s small army of lawyers felt they had a leg to stand on with the UserAgent obfuscation route, they would do it.
Are you suggesting everyone in Charlottesville that weekend sounds be punished, or just the people you disagree with.
Did Jason say something that led to the driver going berzerk?
Nazis aren't the only ones with more than like disagreements, and most neonazis don't fall into that category either
During the presentation, Musk says that Tesla will guarantee $.07/kwh for all their trucks. So his numbers are based upon that.
U.S. citizen here. The products I buy are working great, and I get cheap stuff. No need for mandatory warranties.
I don't see how to tackle the fundamental difficulty of regulating "soft money". We can surely do better than McCain-Feingold, which leaves the "call Senator X and tell him it makes you sad when he kicks puppies" loophole. However, it's going to be difficult at best to have meaningful legislation against "awareness" ads or even more abstract culture war stuff like what the NRA has produced lately. I think we have less of a legislative problem than a culture problem.
I guess if your software is stable and 'finished' enough not to be updated often then it would be good if you have an established communication channel (like a website or a GitHub page) that will periodically come out with, well, 'news updates', since it is true that most users are conditioned to expect some kind of update/activity surrounding their software.

Besides any moderately complex software will probably have enough bugs to require updates now & then for years, even if no new features or added. Not only bugs but often the underlying platform changes/breaks, needing workarounds or rebuilds.
How are you going to formulate an objective phenomenological description of a subjective space which serves as a personal reification substrate for broadcast of 'qualia' models formulated from percepts and concepts by a received personal cognitive operating system? As you know, one school locks on to a 'bubbling-up' dy/dx = -yx and survival utility as overlords with 'consciousness' (whatever that is) as an emergent property supervening on a material substrate. Resonates OK if one's received nature/nurture is conformal to that description but how was/is what is experienced as 'order' possible? Ultimately it has to be postulated as a-priori predilections since order and chaos are strange bedfellows. Another school postulates 'consciousness is the only reality' a-priori with all as projections of some intentionality field. David Bohme seemed to subscribe to that principle since in 'The Undivided Universe - An Ontological Interpretation of Quantum Theory' he postulates three spaces: 1) intentionality, 2) stochastic (only virtual Schrodinger's cats there) and 3) an objective or reified space (here). But as the original article concludes 'qui sait?'. Maybe epoché is more appropriate.
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Sodo is where I learned that I was universally hated, despised, and should never speak unless spoken to.

I spent years trying, buddy, and y'know what? I just can't anymore. I've learned what happens.
I am a programmer. I am pretty good at algorithmics. I love implementing something out of a published paper. I love to navigate the math. I can't sell that though.

I just used to say I am a computer vision expert, because in the ton of things I can do, this is a relevant domain.

Recently, advances in deep learning made half of the computer vision field obsolete. I just read some cutting edge DL papers, linked that to the things I know, and now I am a deep learning integrator.

I was taught in engineering school that my craft is learning and problems solving. I sell it as knowledge and expertise but the truth is that I am constantly learning in the domain I sell as my specialty, which is what everyone who is decent at anything actually does.
As long as they don’t break down and the numbers Tesla advertised are real world, what would be a show stopper?
I think a common open source workflow is to have a forked GitHub repo and working off of this.

So in the end you have your local repo, your fork, and the organization repo. During a pull request process third parties might make pull requests to your fork to try and fix things
Depends on the camera. There have been hacks where a laptop camera is turned on but the LED is not. Hence people covering cameras with tape.
The behaviorist approach is good enough to beat us at Go today. I'd say it's not the same as what philosophers rejected 50 years ago. On the other hand, the "hard problem" is just dualism in disguise. It's declaring something "hard", thus "special" and apart from the physical world that can be studied and understood.
> Dennet is a reductive materialist.

"Materialism: 1a: a theory that physical matter is the only or fundamental reality and that all being and processes and phenomena can be explained as manifestations or results of matter. scientific materialism" [1]

[1] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/materialist

Materialism became the guiding philosophy of Science in ~1845. Reductionism was all the rage.

I think materialism is losing its stranglehold on scientific progress ('science advances one funeral at a time'). There was a submission a few days ago titled "physics has demoted mass" [3]

[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15679150

My experience is that the universe is probably more intricate than we can imagine.
It's common enough that these orders, alone, don't single-handedly vouch for the product. It's unusual enough to be worth mentioning, particularly since the trucks are heading for actual deployment. Strategically, this is Tesla pissing on their post, primarily with the aim of deterring new entrants.
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Do you have any thoughts on whether you would have a use for it in any of your work? Is there a particular feature that's missing that is a showstopper for you? Or is there some other reason you wouldn't use it?

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Glad to see this being written.

"Trained" is the word I have thought of many times as well. It is perplexing to see people wanting updates.

It is possible to write finished programs that are bug-free[FN1]. But when eternal rounds of patching becomes a religion, what sort of standard are developers promoting? Every program is expected to have security holes that will need to be patched? What about not releasing software unless it is safe to begin with? Why does a liability need to be created? Solve the problems before the software is released. Not after. Can't solve them? Then do not release.

Automatic updates are also a security hazard in the same way as "antivirus", which also trained users to want updates. It is a backdoor that users are advised to leave open.

FN1. Inevitably there will be the HN commenter who repeats some meme that says all software has bugs. True perhaps if we forget about Ada and the world outside of MS Windows, but are all the bugs major ones? Consider the stuff you find at http://cr.yp.to. Or many of the small UNIX utilities. I could name more selected examples. There is such a thing as finished software. With no major bugs. That does not need constant updates.
External and internal are united - if you fail externally, you're dead 'internally' too. You try to separate consciousness from the external world and study it under a microscope (metaphorically), and that's wrong. The agent is part of the world, it can never be anything outside, it can never be understood on its own. By labeling my argument as "behaviorism" and rejecting it because of it's "external" argument, then you ignore the very source of experiences that create consciousness. Then we hear people searching for the "neural correlates of consciousness" like it's a kind of brain secretion that just needs to be found - it's the external world that correlates with consciousness, when you're an AI agent or a brain. Every sensation, every reward and the body itself come from the world, the structure of experiences encountered in the external world creates the contents of consciousness, and yet we search for its explanation just in our brains.
Sure, the inner loop is nice and fast if you're consuming exactly one byte per iteration, but I'm not doing that. In any case, I asked https://users.rust-lang.org/t/iterators-and-eliminating-all-...
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Ah, rough. Sorry man. =/ I'd recommend a smaller town - have you looked at Pittsburgh?
That might have the opposite effect, since Alzheimer's rates go up ~exponentially after age 65 or so.
In Seattle? Are you sure you aren’t talking about the east side somewhere?
;) Let's see DBH review a book on neuroscience rather than shooting a fish in a barrel like Dennett's book - oh, hold on, he's not qualified to, because DBH doesn't actually know anything apart from what side his bread is buttered on..

Also, of course, physicists would accept the universe was created if evidence were found. The contorted metaphysical nonsense that DBH and EF espouse in a political defense of the church will only ever lead to the conclusion that the "Christian God exists". That is why they are cranks and not academics - they start with the answer.

They and their ilk are making very nice money out of lying.
> I'd be surprised if none of their employees have contributed to Git.

Jeff King (peff) has worked for GitHub for a long time:

https://github.com/git/git/graphs/contributors

Michael Haggerty (mhagger) is also a GitHub employee.

So, yes.
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Sure, that's not unsafe, but it does require a bounds check, i.e. seeing if you've hit the end of your slice of byte data.

One of the goals of Puffs is to eliminate that runtime bounds check, so it'd be exactly as fast as C/C++'s "x = *src++", even if you're not consuming exactly one byte per iteration, so you can't use Rust's "for val in bytes_iter".

In another comment on this page, I posted to where I asked https://users.rust-lang.org/t/iterators-and-eliminating-all-... for more feedback from the Rust community about this.
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I remember at my school students were forced to choose between arts (AKA humanities) and sciences at 16. The science students were on the whole brighter than the arts students, through no fault of their own. The arts teachers tried to sweeten the pill by saying things like, "Those scientists don't understand human beings." The implication was that we were insensitive and callous individuals. Comments like this left a mark on me, a science student, and the rest of my life I've been trying to compensate. And I think it's also one of the reasons science writers do what they do.
$.12/kWh is the residential price; for industrial consumers the average price of electricity is $.0725 ( https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.ph... ). A truck depot with chargers is more like an industrial consumer than a residential one.
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Was anyone actually surprised to see this? I had two thoughts:

Imagine the advertising impact - and value - of one of these trucks clad in corporate livery. The initial (and I'd expect it to be fairly long lasting) wow factor is going to be huge.

As a sometimes bicycle rider who struggles with diesel fumes (as would anyone), I for one would love if all trucks were electric. Meanwhile, my Respro mask helps protect my lungs.
I reckon imperative and OO are almost identical; if you don't have objects, you use function pointers or discriminated unions instead and end up with something very similar. OO is a design pattern that often has language support. And I could make a similar argument that functional is mostly just a style of coding, where some more restrictive rules are followed - but it also depends on a few specific language features, e.g. garbage collection and possibly tail calls. You can get by without pattern matching and first class functions, but they make life much more pleasant.

Declarative vs imperative is more interesting: what vs how, building descriptions of problems rather than chains of calculations or lists of steps. I don't think functional style is strongly related to declarative, except in the very low level sense that a functional program doesn't necessarily have a sequential evaluation semantics. But that's increasingly true of seemingly imperative languages also.
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This really needs an abstract/summary. 5 paragraphs in and I have no idea what they're doing.
Ageism in programming isn’t limited to a few jobs that require special snowflakes. It’s a problem virtually across industry and area of expertise. Whether it’s due to perception, belief or prejudice, companies want young programmers.

A friend likes to say “Show me a 40yo programmer who hasn’t moved to management and I’ll show you a person who’s being passed over for promotions and new opportunities. God forbid if he looses his job, because he’s gonna have a hell of a time finding a new one - even if he’s kept his skills current.”

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I wonder how that guarantee will be realized? Subsidies? Unless I am missing something, this seems to be artificially lower operating costs of the Semi in order to make to favorable to diesel.
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That's where you get it wrong. MinGW is a compatibility layer that helps port unix apps to windows. Yeah, it comes with GCC, but it also comes with support for POSIX, including a unix shell and other standard components.

Claiming that MinGW was just GCC would imply that to run Git on windows would be just a matter of recompiling the source code. But it isn't.
Why shouldn't they? I personally like the answers and use them often if I'm trying to find a fact, like when someone famous was born. If someone is going to blindly trust Google without verifying and google doesn't try to answer, they'll probably just trust whatever site is listed first anyways...

I see no harm in Google guessing.
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These things always sound amazing on paper. But they're always a bit lacking in person.
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> Aha? What is C# and Visual Studio? Or .NET?

How many GB of pure crap are you forced to install on any windows system to be able to tweak, let alone develop, any software project developed with C#?

Even you acknowledged that you need to install a full blown IDE, such as the monstrocity that is MS Visual Studio, to do any software development in Windows.

In unix-like OSs, such as any linux distribution, all you have to do is pop open a basic text editor and compile/run the program.
It was only when I got to "verbosity..." to check if you were doing that then and there - I hadn't noticed that anything was off.
It's name is Directive 99/44/EG. Here is the link to the english HTML version
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex:319...

Unfortunately it is not that simple with with the two years. The directive states that a good needs to confirm with the contract at the time of sale. So the seller is only liable for a lack of conformity with the contract which was present at the time the goods were delivered. And that's the point were one needs to pay attention.

For the first six month any fault of the product - if it is required by the contract explicitly or implicitly - the seller needs to prove that the fault didn't exist at the time of delivery. After the six month period the consumer needs to prove this fact. So there are 2 years theoretically but in practice it is not that easy.
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>As long as they don’t break down

that's probably the big one. They will break down. all industrial vehicles do, it's just a factored-in cost. the question is how often will they break down, and how much of a hassle will it be to repair them when they do break down?
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