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It's very enlightening to see truly smart people admitting they don't understand. Guess they don't have proved how smart they are and are comfortable revealing themselves.
Untrue. Compressing the volume button of an iPhone 4 forces the bottom edge of the phone 2.5mm into the flesh of my thumb. (As tested with the thumb fully supported against a solid object. Free air is more complicated, since my thumb deflects backwards from the force
but my brain attempts to compensate for that.)

As for the screen touch, I find I hold the phone between the thumb and middle finger of each hand it is a "light grazing" with the index finger to take the shot… but I'd rather say "click"… usually.
Which part don't you buy? Do you think they're lying about their motivations, or do you not agree with their justifications?
I have a question on this Helvetica issue actually.

It's common knowledge that Helvetica is a better font than Arial, plain and simple. The issue is just that Arial is somehow optimized for screen display (hinting or whatever), whereas most or many Helvetica versions aren't. At least, that's my understanding, correct me if I'm wrong.

I've always suspected you could get around this handicap this way:

font-family:"Helvetica Neue", Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;

That is, only use Helvetica if they've got the updated version Adobe has put out, otherwise prefer Arial. I know Helvetica Neue technically was created before the rise of the web, but for some reason I expect it would render better. I've never had a PC that had the font installed though, so I've been unable to test this.
I found the use of Fahrenheit disturbing
> So what? It's wrong

You're defining "wrong" to mean something other than "against the rules". If you can't get the rules changed, it doesn't matter what you wish they were.

> First you are going to say that the investors who do not pore over financial disclosure documents deserve being "misled" because they are lazy

I'm not the OP, but I wouldn't have said "lazy". However, intelligent investing takes time and skill that most people don't have. If you don't read the financial reports, why do you think you have enough information to decide whether to invest in a company? Reading WSJ headlines does not make an informed investor.

The rest of your paragraph is a hyperbolic effort to put words in another's mouth.
You're backing it up with your own personal anecdote?

That's not valid.

If you found data that said, for example, 30% of college graduates took longer than 6 years to earn their undergraduate degrees, then I would agree with you.

If it's less than 10%, then the using 6 years as a cutoff would be a very good rule of thumb estimate.

Maybe the reason why the 6 year cutoff is so often used is because someone already crunched the numbers and found it was good enough?
Google is the great satan! Let us rise up, overthrow the beast, and bathe in it's blood!

If you think they are evil, no amount of them saying otherwise will convince you; that's what an evil company would say. I have my doubts about their proposal, but from friends who have worked there and my public impression, they seem more trustworthy than most companies, and their justifications in the link seem relatively reasonable. I'm not ready to label them "evil" and grab a pitchfork just yet.
Hence "or something similar"... I'm attempting to draw a parallel to a common PR tactic that has a rather remarkable track record of being disingenuous.
Is it me or does every "MYTH" seem to be proven true in the debunking?
Doing your multitouch development on Windows 7 seems kind of bizarre. Even with a vastly smaller userbase, I would bet there are more people using multitouch gestures on the Mac (multitouch trackpads on the incredibly popular notebook line, Magic Mouse and Magic Trackpad on the desktop), so you'd be a lot more likely to get the feature exercised.

Not knocking it. It's cool to see people working on the cutting edge. The choice of platform just struck me as weird.
So you've decided that your reading of this is going to stop at rules of thumb?
On a quick read this sounds more like they're throwing the word "facts" around pretty loosely. More like re-mything. "in the spirit of compromise" is the key phrase. The thing about de-regulation is that companies don't get stricter with themselves. The initial proposal is as tight as it usually gets.
I'm one of the guys that worked on this. If you have any questions, feel free to ask away here. I hope the HN community finds it useful!
The Emotional Design of Firefox
Yes, technically if you're born in Azerbaijan but whisked away at age 2 and grow up in America you'll read as American. And technically if you were raised in a culture almost identical to American culture (like Canada) you'll also read as American. That's a quibble, not the main point.
You should use what you are comfortable with and most productive. If Visual Basic make your product work, go with it.
It's a good idea, but marketplace companies are notoriously difficult to start. You have to find customers that want to get an MVP and programmers willing to build it. It's like trying to do two different startups at the same time.
We've been processing 5 figures a month with PayPal subscriptions for over 5 years (we've since moved to a different system but have a lot of legacy customers still on PayPal).

While I've had some odd issues here and there and the user experience for clients is poor, I've never had anything close to what you've described.

I have to say–either you're wrong about "your time will come" or there's simply more to your story.
Thoughts on the future of the real-time web
The Myth/Fact format was probably the wrong choice when many of the "Fact" sections contain information supportive of the "Myth", along with a few weasel words like "But given political realities", "However, in the spirit of compromise", etc.
here in switzerland some of the DSL providers also provide their own set-top box that provides access to TV channels.

Which is funny because at first the Cable TV companies brought internet to the households and now the phone companies are bringing TV.

Anyways: While the bandwidth for internet is available at bandwidth from 300/100 kbit/s up to 20/1.2 Mbit/s, the TV functionality uses bandwidth independent from those plans allowing even the 300Kbit/s customers to watch TV in acceptable quality.

If what this Google proposal means is something like that, we really shouldn't care. This is not about building a private internet, this is about adding additional (and voluntary) services to the existing internet connection.
This is our options. Jruby and clojure are both dynamic, and we prefer them over static typing of Scala. But jruby is closer to ruby, therefore clojure takes the second place in our list.

Scala's type inference makes the typing a lot less of burden, when compared to java, but it is still there.

Just our options. Feel free to make your own. People with lots of Groovy experience may choose Groovy, and those who really don't need much metaprogramming support may choose Scala. This is just not our case.

Some people also feel very uncomfortable with the lack of almost perfect auto-complete. Ctrl+k (text complete) on Netbeans is magical enough for us most of the time. We use lots of TDD, such that we can also refactor safely, therefore, type safety feels more like a burden when writing tests for things that don't exist on statically typed languages than on dynamic. Again, is a matter of taste as well.
I think this PR tactic became common because this is probably the most obvious way of responding to something that one (Google in this case) thinks is a rumor or inaccuracy.

even though the parallels are disingenuous, I would refrain from citing this as a reason for feeling suspicious.
If the special treatment that BoA pays for does not degrade my (or anyone else's) internet performance, and does not degrade the speed or accessibility of other bank websites, I don't mind. I think the "separate and apart" means this goes further - I can't just type https://www.bankofamerica.com/ and get the special service.
This is what a "ship cat" is
But one could still argue that a deliberate, temporary solution still does no good. Why not just take care of everything right now, while we've already got legislators talking about it? If we have to bring up this whole discussion again a second time to get wireless done, I fear it will never be so.
would be great for android powered tvs
I've found that a pretty good rule of thumb for recognizing people who don't care to actually validate facts is any time they use "rules of thumb" or something similar.

For example, look at the parent of this post, and you'll find a 'Rule of Thumb' touting a couple anecdotes about when the rule of thumb worked in some instance, without any proof.

I also find the phrase to be highly condescending to those of us who care to study an argument for what it contains, and not just a phrase it happens to use.
python. python beats ruby in community imo. if you're just doing a webapp then rails wins, but with scipy conferences and researchers from astronomy to biology putting out python packages, if you're doing something outside the normal webapp you'll probably find a more useful community with python.
EDITED for 'negation overload':

I never believed that google was not evil. It was a myth that people talked themselves into and at this point, it has been pierced and I don't think those people will be able to go back. They aren't evil. Just a corporation out for their own interests whereas before, many people saw them as a knight in shining armor.
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There are some really interesting blogs on this topic. I am actually going to post one shortly.

I based my strategy off of this post: http://www.balsamiq.com/blog/2008/08/05/startup-marketing-ad...

It's a must read.
If not, then you're not managing expectations well, or the organization your working for is just a sweatshop anyway.
Samsung Epic 4G for sprint is $249 launches August 31
Browser extension linking web pages to Twitter could be just the start...
Google, Verizon, and AT&T interest aligning? This is alarming no doubt.
If you are easily distracted, working in an accountability area (as in no YouTube) helps get you focused - at least for me. If you work as a team, I don't think you can replace being there very easily - whether that means your apartment or getting an office.
Kiva.org and Make A Wish Foundation. Both are pretty self explanatory, seeing helpless kids with horrible circumstances breaks my heart.
Avoid to use Java directly, if you need any Java libraries choose Clojure to wrap it, that strategy works well for me. Scala is another alternative here. It's a bit more complicated to work with Java libraries but great for writing code.

For a general programing task my choice is Python, stable, mature, well documented with an extensive library support. iPython is a fantastic shell for it, that's my interface to Python libraries and programs, good for developing, running code, debugging or for a quick peep to the documentation. Highly recommended.
This isn't de-regulation. There is no regulation right now.
I feel the same way about my bicycles. My 2006 Trek 1200 has something close to 15,000 miles on it now. It has all kinds of battle scars, and I like it that way. I look at other peoples' bicycles and can tell if they're the ones who go out on a saturday ride a few times per month, or whether they're actually hitting the road with it and enjoying the thing.
A smart person will clearly delineate what he does and doesn't know, especially in mathematics when statements are either true or false. Terry has stated before he's far from an expert on this subject, and everyone is very well aware of that. Putting on any other guise would be a huge discredit to his integrity.
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I worked for one, but rather than constantly cutting, they have high turnover and rely on golden handcuffs to keep people -- that they treat like slaves. Their average turnover was 18 months, though in the seniors it was more like a year (long enough to not have to pay back the signing bonus and relocation if applicable).

And the management didn't seem to care; they would just hire more interns... who they treated better than the seniors anyway.

And honestly, the work sucked. It was almost entirely a crapware maintenance job, no engineering, and a staunch resistance to changing anything at all, even the clumsy, buggy, and inefficient Perl-based "solution" that the company relied on for around 70% of its catalog data.
I understand.. so yes - we as users won't mind. but what if I were another bank? The security upgrades that I would normally pay Infosys to do for me now no longer give me a competitive advantage over BoA. I'd have to pay verizon in addition to get the same "special service" to offer the same security (replace with speed/features etc.) right?
I still don't understand what you're saying, though. It is a matter of British vs. American English, and the major problem to me, at the time, seemed to be that the two sides didn't understand that fact, they just tried to stubbornly apply their own cultural norms against each other. The point you mention is a common British rationalization for the British convention, but that point was probably only argued because that person didn't realize the convention is different from country to country.

By Wikipedia conventions, incidentally, "Angels and Airwaves is a band" is correct because it's an American band and articles on American subjects are written under American conventions, whereas "Emerson Lake & Palmer are a band" is correct because they are a British band. That didn't save that guy from being blocked for a week, though (or maybe 8 days, I can't remember whose block I extended.)
This is what its supposed to be about, but the worry is that the television companies that are also providing internet, will just create new 'services', that are effectively a non-net-neutral internet.
Why not just take care of everything right now? For the same reason you don't get married on the first date. Wireless Internet is a very young and largely unknown market, we don't know what form it will eventually settle into and any laws we draft now are likely to be hopelessly naive in the much same way that software design patents are.
Yahoo CEO Carol Bartz: "I'm Just a Manager"
Fair enough.

However, my objection is that it paints an overly simplistic picture of the "myth" by reducing it to a one-line straw man which can then easily be dismantled in the "fact" section.

So while it's true that it is important to evaluate the content presented, it is also critical to consider the content not included either by commission or omission.
Reminds of what pg said on Be good (http://paulgraham.com/good.html):

Anyone can adopt "Don't be evil." The catch is that people will hold you to it.
There was also a strong political movement to create fair regulation, until Google threw it under the bus.
Nowhere did I say that I hadn't read what was written. However, the format was cause for suspicion.

As I mention above, my objection is that it paints an overly simplistic picture of the "myth" by reducing it to a one-line straw man which can then easily be dismantled in the "fact" section.

So while it's true that it is important to evaluate the content presented, it is also critical to consider the content not included either by commission or omission.
This opinion sounds very one sided. Do you have any experience within the ruby community, personally?
I disagree. To be good in business, you need experience, which comes with time and mistakes.

Hacking imho either comes naturally or it doesn't. If you can't see the appeal of an apparently pointless activity eg. code golf, then you're probably not a hacker, and never will be.

This doesn't mean you won't be a good entrepreneur - if anything it could even help; since you don't waste time on silly (but fun for a hacker) things.
GOOD asks: Would you quit Facebook or Google?
"They know they'll be leaving, whereas employees can count on being around."

I don't agree with that. A lot of employees don't expect to be around that long, because they know that they can get better raises by leaving than by staying.

Also, as the employee's institutional knowledge rises, that employee has a higher likelihood of getting shunted onto "critical" maintenance projects and support, which tends to make them dissatisfied with their work and therefore prefer to leave.

I've run into that one very often.
But English has rules too. Not as clear cut as German, but you wouldn't say 'sup mate?' to you boss, you use a different vocabulary when talking to a superior.
I've addressed this already above.
Your Infosys stuff will still work - but BoA may be able to add additional end-to-end or last-mile advantages above that. I think (though I'm not sure) that part of this deal precludes exclusivity - BoA cannot prevent another bank from getting the same service for the same money.
People will come for the old content and consume the new content, possibly to a decreasing level, but still. Also if you're simply buying the blog to point some links to another site for garnering Google linkjuice or to own the first SERP or whatever then you probably don't care it's the current link structure (on- and off-site) that's working for you.
That's very interesting - 3 months ago it was just 27%, and Eclair has been out over 9 months.

http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/30/only-27-3-of-android-phones...

That's a pretty huge jump. Maybe we're seeing an attitude change for manufacturers already? I suppose some of them are now pushing their third generation of android handset and learning lessons from the second.
Enough money to get by comfortably, not necessarily "rich".
On the contrary, it seems that the movement is alive and well, and currently throwing Google under the bus.
Actually its 10 points (at least so it's defined in the CSS). But I wouldn't like to read any longer passages in this font size, and sometimes I zoom in even here to read more comfortably. But 12pt seems actually quite comfortable now that I tried it, so the part about it being too small can be redacted.

But the main point was that I strongly disagree defining font sizes in pixels. What happens when somebody with 250 PPI display comes along and that 12 px font suddenly is 3.5 points?
I'm sorry you feel that way?
PayPal is absolute trash for payment processing. Horror stories aplenty. Take the time to obtain a merchant account.
Link doesn't work, as HN strips the apostrophe. Try this instead:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship%27s_cat
Dupe: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1598737
It's the "in the spirit of compromise" line that I don't get. I'm pretty sure Google would prefer net neutrality to apply to wireless too, but they threw users under the bus to buddy up with Verizon. But no one asked Google to put this proposal together. No one said they had to work together with Verizon on it. Why didn't they just both submit their own proposals and let the FCC make up their own mind on the various issues? It's not like this proposal is going to get passed directly into law anyway.

Compromise? That doesn't sound like the Google I know and love.

Google has always been known for their lofty ideals and their principled founders. They are the company you can trust to walk away from billions of dollars before compromising what they believe. We saw that in their interactions with China. We saw that when they owned up to the data they accidentally collected driving down the street. We saw that when they changed their rules to make it harder for spammers to put adsense on temporary landing pages.

I've been a Google fan boy for a long time but this week they lost my respect.
We don't know how it will settle, but we (and by we I mean NN advocates) do know that we want it to respect Net Neutrality as well.
Agreed. There's a reason Safari's "Reader" feature displays body text as 18px.

I find myself using Reader and/or hitting Cmd+Plus on far too many sites these days.
.co domains can't have 'Whois Privacy Protection'.

This can be a deal breaker for some people.
I think 300 DPI is for full-color prints. Black-and-white text is more like 1000-2000 DPI.
yeah. a manager at a "media company". no wonder they're screwed.
Wireless internet is already a total joke, where carriers charge you extra for tethering just to use the bandwidth you already paid for, and give you the runaround when you try to contest charges. The carriers will manipulate this market to squeeze every possible dime they can get from it.

And recall just how badly mobile phones stagnated before the iPhone and Android. That's carrier control at work.

The sooner these guys become reduced to dumb pipes, the better.
People hate ads but don't mind being lured by SEO
Helvetica is a better font, only when it comes to print/signage or Heading H1/H2/H3 on the screen.

Otherwise it becomes unbearable to read at standard body font size 11-13pt. See here http://trevordavis.net/play/helvetica/

Unfortunately for windows users, they don't get the pre-loaded collection and because the font isn't free, most people settle for downloading either one version/style as demo-copy or modified version of it. This is problematic because the CSS still recognizes that you have Helvetica and doesn't fall back to Arial.
Principles which succumb to "political realities" or the "spirit of compromise" are no principles at all.

I'm still hugely disappointed but maybe it was naive to think a corporate entity could ever have true principles.
I'm really curious for the purpose of this question. Are you trying to find the most popular language of choice among HN hackers that have their own startup? Shouldn't you at least mention "and what does your startup do"? Or at this point, "startup" is automatically assumed to be a "webapp"?

My startup specializes in bringing other people's ideas into life. Most of our clients are also startups. Depending on their needs, we use Ruby on Rails, PHP, Java, Objective C/Cocoa, or C++. For my other startup, which is a webapp, I use Ruby on Rails.
Not passwords persay, but all my important personal information (bank account #s, tax forms, copies of important documents) are stored in a truecrypt-ed file in about 5 different places (Dropbox, laptop, server, usb key, cd). Yes, updating it is a pain, but I do it so rarely its not a huge deal.
Interesting analysis. Hopefully some VCs will backup the line of reasoning.

It would also explain why the new type of programs like YC is exploring other economic incentives that is more aligned with the entrepreneurs.
> but on the adsense revenue on organic searches and people looking around for info they want

"Detailed revenue breakdown of a gadget blog ($61k in dec 2007)"

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=216960

http://selfmademinds.com/200801/income-breakdown-for-decembe...
Capsicum: Practical capabilities for UNIX
MYTH: Google has “sold out” on network neutrality.

FACT: Sure, we were all ready to pay $4.6 billion to keep the 700MHz band open a couple years ago. Hey, had you seen that iPhone thing? It was killing us. But that was yesterday. Just the other day, our BFF Verizon told us that Android was selling 300,000 units a day. 300,000 a day. We were, like, "Net neutrality who?"