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There's a lower bound on the cheapness: the living expenses of the founders and the people they hire. Few families could risk that amount of money on something as risky as a startup.
Yeah, I'm going to delete my comment. Without the mindset of their target market, I don't have anything constructive to say about their product.
Regarding "Reading Mathematics is not a linear experience": You have to say, compared with what. I remember that compared with theoretical physics, mathematics seemed emphatically like a linear experience. A friend of mine tried once to express in gestures the difference between learning mathematics and learning physics. He said: "Mathematics is like this:" Then he opened a book, moved his finger slowly along the first line on the page, left to right, humming like a computer that's processing something. Once he got to the end of the line, he tapped the middle of the line and said "Beep beep", then he moved to the second line, moved his finger from left to right humming, tapped in the middle and said "Beep beep" and so on. The he said: "Physics is like this:" And moved the finger along the first line, then the second line, etc., and only after he got to the bottom of the page he tapped the center of the whole page and said "Beep beep". I remember there was a bunch of us there and we all agreed that he was onto something.
I've known this forever.
Don't underestimate kids. They've been battling parents for control for centuries. The average 13 year old will find 10 ways of cheating the system in the first day of having it. Three categories come to mind:

1. Stupid way: lie and give your phone to a friend while you go to your boyfriend's house,

2. Social engineer: turn it off every other day, telling your parents 'my phone just keeps crashing since you installed this virus on it. And how do you know it's not sending my location to hackers?'

3. And some of them might even be inspired enough to learn some real hacking: this will encourage a generation of hackers into hackerdom.

Technology might advance quickly, but human relationships stay more or less the same.
Be careful of this, due to Apple’s current policies, each refund costs the developer money beyond the money they receive. Apple keeps the 30% commission on the sale, and bills the developer the full purchase price. (I’m not sure how the IRS W-9 cut is handled; that’s about 28% in the U.S. It would suck if the IRS keeps that cut until tax time.)
Who would give their 8-12 year old an iPhone 3GS / iPhone 4?

Or rather, is that market big enough? Maybe eventually, but this seems almost premature.
I and many people are using mongodb just fine with no data-loss and way more data and way more queries per second than you. If you are going to make big accusations like this you need to back them up with a test-case to reproduce your error. Otherwise it's just yet another useless rant/bug report. I too could write a "cassandra lost my data" blog post with no proof whatsoever, wouldn't help. Also the 32bits argument is ridiculous, it is not supposed to store more than 2geebees anyway, so don't use it for that.
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on the bright side, there's now a great reason for 12yr olds to beg their parents for an iPhone 4.
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Thanks. Though it seems that you have twice the opportunity to sell, but it is really twice as hard?

Isn't the used book business model come under criticism because of this - I remember reading that it is a bad idea. Any thoughts on this?
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I wonder about the legality of this service. Are parents really allowed to track their kids in this fashion? Until what age? etc. This isn't meant to be rhetorical as I am really ignorant on the matter.
We agree it is strange that this idea has not been done by now. We keep expecting that we will find it around the corner, but so far it has not actually shown up. Basecamp is a great product for many elements of managing projects, but I feel it still falls short on the visualization end of things. They look to pretty openly support 3rd party extensions and they are on our road-map of data to visualize.
As a kid, I had much more to hide than as an adult - especially from my parents.
Same reason toilets are great for thinking. It gets you away from staring at the problem and lets your mind free associate a bit.
My 8-12 year old will get an iPhone4 the moment I get my hands on an iPhone5.
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I don't think there's any law against it if the kids know about it (and thus consent by taking the iPhone and enabling the app).

If the kids are over 18 and you were to track them without their knowledge, that might be illegal.
Right. Which is a year from now.

Which is also an eternity in startup time.
I guess I missed something. Can you explain?
People tend to self-segregate in real life. It makes sense that it should happen on the Internet, too.
This looks pretty slick, but 1) out of those who uses Gantt charts, who would actually use this and 2) who uses Gantt charts in the first place?
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I'm looking for existing software or direction for how I should write my own.

What I want is a simple timer that would allow me, say, a two hour session of Starcraft 2. It would alert me when 2 minutes are left so I could save my game and then it would quit and disable the application for 24 hours.

All the software (mostly parental) I've found logs you off the computer or shuts it down. I'm looking for something that is just application specific.

If it doesn't exist then I want to build it. My experience is mainly in ruby and a little bit of java but I'm willing to learn something new if it would make it quicker/easier.
I think this and similar products also opens a business opportunity for making software / services for kids that allow them to evade these controls.
well, I encourage you to expand out here quickly. I believe the market is quite large, especially for food that is somewhat better than the sausage sizzle. We've got the money; we lack the cooking abilities.
I wonder if the founders are parents in real-life?
Do you regularly run finance code on machines that are not IEEE-754 compliant? If not, how big a deal are the resulting differences?
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It would be interesting to see what exactly Urs said about this guy, in what context, what this guy's personality is, etc. Being an "old fuddy-duddy," while without a settled meaning, I think basically is a way of saying that an old person is acting childish or unprofessional. If that's so, one easy way not to run afoul of the law is to say that the person acts childishly or unprofessionally. Of course, you should also document concrete examples of the same. For example, if the person in question frequently shoots down proposals in meetings by saying the moral equivalent of, "That's not how we did it back at Bell Labs," just say that. Also, saying the guy's ideas are "too old to matter" is a dick move IMO. If you want to abandon rational explanations for why you don't like someone's ideas, just say, "We're not going to do that, end of discussion." No need to get personal.

This goes back to my personal doctrine of trying to say exactly what I mean. I find that some people try to solve problems by saying things designed to get a person to do what they want, but without being direct about it. On more than one occasion I've observed this has led to hurt feelings where I think the direct approach -- just ask for what you want -- would not. For example, if your coworker bothers you while you are trying to work, "Hey, could we talk later? I am trying to work," would probably be received a lot better than, "Damn, dude, you talk a lot." This example is contrived but I have observed concrete cases not too different from this a number of times.

Anyway, hopefully no one reading this article is stressing out about not having a demographically appropriate workforce, because it seems very unlikely that alone will be enough to get you into trouble.
Agreed, but I think this is a little beyond self-segration.
If they just wanted to self-segregate, they'd find stories they agree with and digg them up, but extending that to also ruin other people's discussion is another thing. They are gathering with the explicit goal of drowning out other voices outside of their self-segregated group.

Perhaps another reason reddit isn't as susceptible is that it allows for user-created subreddits where like-minded folks can form such hives.
I doubt the company will succeed with a website like that. It looks nice, but has enough problems.

1. It doesn't clarify IF your kid requires a smartphone. Anyone not coming from the the article would wonder if there was 1 phone for the parent and a wrist-watch or something for the kid. It may seem obvious to many, but the average person hitting the site would probably not know, then try to use the feedback tool, which leads to #2.

2. The feedback tool makes you fill out the form first then after all that leads you to sign in or create an account -with no way out. What a shitty way to do it. It's not a social media site, it's a business.

Subtle things like this can make a company flop. If they can't get the basics down, why would I want to do business with them?

As for the product. I agree with the previous post, like as if my kids are going to have a smart phone.

Just my 2 cents.
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Do you have any plans for discounts etc. for current purchasers if/when you release any new editions?
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How much you want to bet this isn't just another part of the 'game', an example of the left-wing extremists attempting to combat the right-wing extremists?
There's no W-9, you are not an Apple employee. You're an independent contractor / company. Normatively the IRS only witholds taxes on employee pay.
Totally!

I think there's probably always going to be ways that these sorts of systems will be evaded; it's just the nature of the beast with computer systems.

What we're hoping we'll be able to do though is to build this in such a way that there's value to the kids as well as the parents. If the choice is between getting an annoying phone-call everyday to ask where you are and having this app, I think for all the times when the kid isn't doing something malicious, they'll prefer to just have the app. Similarly the app lets kids locate their parents as well -- this can be handy if they're waiting for a lift for example.

The last line of defence is that we plan to build in features to tell parents when the app has been disabled by the kid. Saying that the app has crashed is one thing, but if that results in an angry phone call telling them to start it up again -- even if it has just crashed -- I think kids will be less inclined to keep playing that card.

Awesome feedback though. Keep it coming, dudes!
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No, I'd say the average is far less competent than Google. Microsoft, for example, or Sun. That said, Google has flaws and certainly lacks the success rate and truly otherworldly batting average of a company like Apple.
The right-wing is well-entrenched, so 'progressive' is not always that progressive. You have to give up a little ground to avoid looking psycho.
Also, the defendant is going through a form of bankruptcy. Kind of hard to dedicate a bunch of resources to defense (or compliance) when there are no resources left at all.
Yep, that's totally fair. The website is in pretty bad shape.

We're following the advice we've been given which is that we should launch as soon as possible. To that end we've put a lot of work into the app, but the website largely remains a TODO.
1) Our hypothesis is that those who use Gantt charts and want to present them either to executives (more status and summary) or to a team (more details and dependencies) and are sick of strange screen shots or hand-drawing outcomes in powerpoint.
2) There are several different scenarios where Gantt charts are helpful. A typical example might be when one wants to model dependencies to figure out what the optimal order of execution might be or what the critical path might be. Another example is if one wants to set a target date and work backward in time to figure out when a decision or task has to be finalized.
3)We used them all the time in medical device, less so developing this software product with a small team...
Privacy levels are changing but most kids would love to get an iphone in exchange for letting their parents know where they are.

That's the feedback we're getting from them so far!
Let's apply to YC Winter'11 with this product.
Old age.
It's very true, but seems unlikely that a kid with a cool new iPhone would want to put it down.

As I think James has been detailing above, it's not set up as a tug-of-war between parent and child.

Both the parent and the child get value out of it e.g. the kid can see how long until mum or dad arrives to pick them up.
Who would buy a microcomputer in 1975? In a startup you want to lead the target.
We think the market is big enough.

It's important to note that we have no intention of stopping with supporting just iPhone. Android, blackberry, etc are all on the way.

It was pretty interesting to check out an AT&T store recently: a lot of the lower-end phones that you'd buy kids if you were worried about them breaking it are running Android these days, and I think the leap from a feature phone to a low-end Android handset is much smaller than the leap from a feature phone to an iPhone.

But we've actually found quite a few families where parents have bought their kids an iPhone as a reward, etc. We find that if the kid has an iPhone, typically the parent does too.
Looking at the specs it seems the N1 supports UMTS GSM band 8 (900MHz), which is probably what vodaphone is using.
We're not, but I was a junior high school teacher in Japan for 2 years before I moved to the US.

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Understood.

PS. You're probably only thinking of the software aspect, but food for thought - If there was a smartphone-to-wristwatch version - I'd buy one right away, and I doubt I'd look at the price tag.
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This is pretty exciting stuff, you can build static sites with S3 now.
Isn't t treason to divulge classified documents? I have a hard time believing that divulging 50k of them and compromising national security, foreign operations, etc etc is not a crime...

If not, spies have it really easy.
application monitors where iPhone is, not exactly where kid is

That's why v2 will allow remote microphone/camera activation.
There are basically 2 sides:
- Can kids consent to letting their parents know where they are
- Is the system secure enough to unauthorized access

We're very serious about getting both right!
How valuable are these non-vanilla terms to investors? Presumably you can get anyone to commit to vanilla terms for the right price. Then it's just a question of making big investors care less about these terms (e.g. by repeatedly demonstrating that investments can succeed without them), or taking more investments from people who put a lower premium on the terms (e.g. super angels).
That's true, but from the numbers we've been able to dig up, the growth rate is pretty impressive. We're cheap to run and hard to kill, so we're pretty optimistic that we can make this work!
So, the first problem is that of the taxman. barter networks have a long history, and courts have consistently ruled that barter doesn't excuse you from paying taxes. If you get big, they /will/ come after you.

I'm not a lawyer, and you'd need to talk to one. But my belief is that if it operated like the current systems, where helping people got you an informal 'reputation boost' and people with good reputations are more likely to get help when they ask for it, the irs wouldn't come after you, because it looks very different from any kind of economic exchange.

Now, I don't know how far you could take the reputation points. could you make actual tradeable carma? would the irs come then? I'm not a lawyer, I don't know. But I'm pretty sure that if you stick to the existing carma/reputation type systems where you get points, formally or informally for helping people, they won't come after you.

eh, I think building cultural norms (and a way of 'keeping score' without being so formal as to arouse the ire of the IRS.) is more important than the technical problem of matching claimed skills.

I think the problem is partially solved by public mailing lists, or things like stackoverflow... people gain a certain reputation. and when someone with a good reputation asks for help, they're more likely to get it.

The problem with all current systems is that they are very focused on one niche. you have your SysAdmin lists, your programmer lists, your designer lists, etc... and a good reputation on one does not always carry to others, which is what needs to happen. I want to, say, give some SysAdmin advice/help and get some design advice/help.

So how would we start an 'open help community' for a wider audience? a community with both SysAdmins and Designers, for instance?

at that point, you have a bigger problem with reputation. Lots of people will give you advice outside of their area of expertise. For instance, I'm a pretty good sysadmin, at least when you care about money. But I'm happy to also ladle out business advice, an area where I have a pretty trivial amount of experience, and not very much success. And look at this post! I'm handing out legal advice, even though I'm wholly unqualified to do that.

Your reputation system needs to be able to deal with that. Another complication is that informal reputations work really well on narrow focus lists. usually 'it takes one to known one.' - I don't know a good design when I see it. The vary thing that makes me bad at design makes it impossible for me to recognize a good designer. But I can spot a good sysadmin from a mile out. It's easy for me to tell between good sysadmin advice and bad sysadmin advice, even if the advice is somewhat above my level. I can tell if it "sounds right" and I know how to verify.
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It looks like it's more of a curation strategy. It looks like they want to reduce the amount of noise in the App Store by getting rid of the Free vs Paid Apps split. The first step was allowing In-App Purchase for Free Apps.
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I think kids are already begging their parents for an iPhone 4 :)

If this does push parents across the line and they decide to get their kids an iPhone, we want to provide them with an awesome service that they'll see some value from too.
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Awesome! Thanks for the great feedback!
It is actually much, much less than $15/Mbps these days.

For a gigabit commit prices are under $3/Mbps, or $3,000 per month, for delivery to a datacenter or other on-net (meaning fiber is already there and running) location.
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One issue is that kids are a lot more willing to be without this dedicated tracker than their phone.

As long as they can get the wristwatch back before going home, there's no cost to leaving the wristwatch where they're supposed to be and then continuing with their regularly scheduled mischief. But kids hate to be separated from their phone.

Now, it's possible that it could have some combination of sensors that at least made pretty sure that some humanoid was wearing the thing. But that increases the cost and battery usage.

Another issue is that the kids could just "forget" to charge it a lot.

Integrating it with their phone means that most things that keep the tracking from working also keeps them from using their phone, which is pretty much a nightmare to most teens.
SafeEyes might work for you. I think they have both application-specific controls and some cron limits. It's aimed at parents, but might work for what you're going for.
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Your comment has nothing to do with the policy's of apple. They keep the 30% of the cost and take the 100% out of revenue.
Building community needs evangelizing it, building brand ambassadors out of your users and most important "listening to your users closely". One needs to set up a mode of direct conversation. This comes naturally when you start small like twitter or youtube.

When you have few million user base ready to consume whatever you advertise on gmail or search - you are trying to buy out of old rewards. Worse users are non-forgiving and expectations are much high.

So it sounds like a big company problem. But it really isn't. Yahoo does it really well with yahoo answers. There is even today a high response rate from yahoo team through "Ask Mike"

Google should probably consider small teams within. Provide all the support through tech and hardware but let the teams launch these products on their own and grow the userbase naturally focusing on service too along with the product.
That seems funny but it's definitely the opposite direction to where we're going :-)

We're just focused on building a system that both kids and parents enjoy using.
While that sounds logical, it typically works the opposite way. In a big cashout early investors often get the highest ROI because they got in at the lowest price, but they usually get paid last.
Hadn't seen that one yet. Thanks.

However, it appears to only block online gameplay and internet game related sites. I don't see anything about blocking a specific application.
What's the best way to prevent an application from launching temporarily?
They're extremely similar. You don't get an explosion of code size. Unless you're suggesting that HTML5 should also be radically different syntactically as well?
Right on. It looks like you've done your homework (which is expected with the YC pedigree) so all that remains is: good luck to you!

Supporting Android does seem very significant.
This led me to an interesting thought, will NYC/Valley investors consider investing in a non-tech/food startup?
This is precisely the historical impact that I would expect Joe Clark to have, with this sort of sentimental essay. If you have nothing useful to say, then your ego doesn't justify the fact that you are saying anything.
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How do you handle the following edge cases
1) a kid using the product grows over 18 while the product is still installed on their phone?
2) Does a person being monitored get some visual feedback about the fact that theyre being tracked ?