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This is something I've been wrestling with as well. Several of my friends work for Google or Facebook.

I've discussed this at length with some of them. Several seem to object strongly to, for example, Congress's block of the FCC's proposed ISP privacy rules. Yet they work for companies which implement forms of tracking which are substantially similar. Some work directly on implementation of said tracking.

I find it frustrating since each and every one of them has other options. In the words of Jeff Hammerbacher: "The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads. That sucks."
Lol?

Electric servos for steering wheels use safety critical code, with lot of safety checks, and use direct drive. No need for silly patent for common sense out of the United States.
With no party to enforce it.
> 3. The question is not whether something can be used for "evil", but whether it is. If it is, ideally people shouldn't be contributing to it.

This is difficult, though. If a thing is used for evil, but also for good, where do you draw the line and say the bad is outweighing the good and the thing has to go?
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But instead, he wants to lose all three stars? There's undeniably something irrational about his request.

If he's willing to lose stars to get rid of the pressure, he can simply ignore the judges.
Some user here (seems I'm not able to find him/her) on HN mentioned that they also feared that Samsung would be switching to their own thing, dropping Android and that may have been a factor in their decision to sell Motorola as they really want to keep everyone in the Android boat.

Made sense to me, at least.
"non-accredited investors". Compared to some so-called professional investors, they only lack "credits" if that word is taken to refer to currency.
Browsers are really where privacy needs to come from.

I know a lot of people have hopes for a legislative solutions, but I think the EU (also UK and others) "cookie law" really needs to make us consider how effective they can be. The motivation for the law was good. They put their finger in the right place. . We got nag screens and little improvment in privacy.

Not every piece of privacy legislation does as little as this, but I still think we need to be wary. Browsers, OTOH, are in a great position to improve user privacy.

Maybe instead of letters to parliamentarians, letters to browser makers?
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Is this statement morally equivalent? Why or why not?
It seems to me that the basically religious concept of "evil" causes a lot of confusion.

What Google, Facebook, and Amazon are is primarily extremely powerful.

The U.S. government, say, does a lot of nasty, undesirable things; it also does a lot of benevolent, desirable things.

Working in these institutions means, to varying degrees, aligning yourself with the motives of extremely powerful entities.

But of course it also means potentially influencing that power in a way that you and your peers would recognize as benevolent.

Neither Google, Facebook, nor Amazon have core missions that are obviously bad, i.e., they are not directly opposed to a free society, they are not fundamentally violent, they are basically not the Nazi Party.

But they do share a core mission that is enormously expansive, kind of like the East India companies. Operationally, they are very likely to use some foul tactics in order to grow and compete.

As long as we have the global kind of capitalism where for-profit corporations grow into hyperobjects, it seems like we will have a top layer of quasi-monopolies using information technology and capital accumulation to dominate.

And according to the ideology, you can't really stop that without violating the principles of liberty. Basically to prevent such formations you need a powerful state, and that state will itself be such a formation, except with elections (hopefully, and maybe only nominally).

You might even need a global state-like entity, right?

If we use the word evil to describe Google, Facebook, and Amazon, I think we should rather say that the structure of capitalism is evil, and that'll get you into trouble.

Especially because this is a forum topically and structurally centered on the very impulse to launch exponentially growing IT firms.

This site is a promotional and educational wing of Y Combinator, which in its essence desires to be a recursively powerful generator of new mega-corporations, structurally bound to the multiplication of accumulated capital.

So, umm, yeah.
very much this. I think the how people view companies as a whole as "evil" is alarming. Technology is neutral, and companies make the world better and worse.
I 100% agree with your statement, but I feel that Vivaldi is currently the best browser that's close to Chrome in terms of feature parity. Hopefully though, with more support, they will become an efficient browser that's unique enough to be separate from Chrome but have the features we know and love.
City Block distance metric aka Taxicab geometry applies here.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicab_geometry
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Good phones running almost stock Android are useful from a marketing PoV for both positive (as a showcase for the OS) and negative (good devices that aren't running iOS/Windows/other) reasons.

Their adoption helps increase the market share of the OS so makes creating content for them (apps in the Play store, and so forth) more attractive again indirectly helping because all Android devices potentially benefit from that.

So not a profit in any easily measured $ terms, but definitely a benefit.
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Sabotage is a venerable tradition, but I basically don't think it's better for anyone to be murdered by a knife that's rusty.
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This is the thing I don't get. While certainly Google, Facebook, and Amazon are working on a lot of interesting problems, they're also big behemoths and your individual contribution isn't going to be all that noticeable.

At this point in my career I could likely get a job at any of the three of them if I wanted to and worked at it, but I'm not really sure I want to. I'd rather work at a smaller company where what I do every day actually matters as to whether or not the company will succeed or fail.

I guess that's just my preference, though; perhaps people like at G/F/A because they get to work on interesting projects without the stress associated with their output being a make-or-break for the company. And there's certainly more job security at a larger company than one that could more easily slip into hard times.
Why is it a shame about Apple's direction?

Apple realised there is a market of privacy minded people who don't want to trade themselves to get a phone at a low price.

Apple can be privacy minded for profit and "do right by the users" at the same time. They aren't diametrically opposed to each other.

It is sad that we expect that a company trying to stay profitable is trying to screw users over in some way.

I'm not saying its not true in many cases, just in this case.
I tried posting the question on Stackoverflow, but having had no responses I had to pay another user to place a bounty.

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It's a clean state reinvention of the computing environment (it's software component at least).

That by itself might be a good idea, but if you're going to sell people on your project, you need to give some rationale / objective for your projects. And there, Urbit doesn't do well. There is some talk of decentralization, but it's not clear what the goals are.

Like many people, I find the way it's being done slightly confusing (the names, etc), but it is being done. At this point, I would just lump it in the stack of intellectual curiosities, right next to TempleOS. It might turn into something yet, but I'm not holding my breath.
It's an incremental improvement on what's gone before, sure, but it does offer a bunch of genuinely useful facilities that a lot of programming languages just don't have. I'd never want to go back to a language that was missing HKT, missing libraries of generic operations on monads, missing libraries of generic operations on recursive datastructures via fixed points, or missing safe derivation of operations on structured data via typeclass derivation or similar.
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"how else is their ideal society attainable without the forced removal of non-white people?"

Um, how about just reducing immigration a lot and giving it time? It's not that complicated.

I think you're just obscuring the obvious non-Hitler solutions because you want easy moral superiority. Easy to slag someone when you can pretend they just want to commit genocide. Much harder when you take their views charitably.

But, this is common, which is why I generally agree with Thiel here: Nobody had ever tried to convince me otherwise, only accused me of wanting things I don't want.
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These days it’s more about the ecosystem rather the language itself.

While most language provide the basics, sooner or later you will end up needing something that is only available for the most popular 5-6 languages.

E.g. S3 APIs or drivers for Riak, or gRPC or rabbitmq or something else. Something always comes up.

Having said that, the packages listed in Racket’s webpage seem quite comprehensive.
I'm curious about your thoughts on reconciling libertarian ideals with the desire to limit the power of corporations.
What's wrong with unnecessary innovations? There were lots of inventions/discoveries that didn't solve any existing problem during their time of discovery.
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It's much simpler than that, Google's business is advertising, Apple's is hardware. If you make all your profit from selling advertising then it will compromise your approach to privacy.

Apple isn't the problem here, Google and Facebook is.
Is the title meant to be reference to Joe Haldeman's The Forever War?

The article doesn't mention it, but it is capitalised suggestively near the end. Also, Haldeman's novel is widely regarded as a criticism of the Vietnam war, and the article does discuss the lack of literature critical of recent wars.
Isn't the worry then that someone else comes up with the invention independently and patents it? (and does the US being a first-to-file patent system have an impact on this)
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They are roughly equals with hotels.com, that is also very strong on AB testing.
you can make the math look okay as long as you ignore the $200-500M per quarter in losses that google swallowed for the 2.5 years that they owned motorola.
> We got nag screens and little improvment in privacy.

We definitely got the nag screens¹, but improvement?

[1] Which is totally inferior solution technically & ux-wise, because the user/client voluntarily accepts the cookie from the server, and there's already setting for that in the browser.
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You need to draw the line somewhere, though.

As an extreme example, if a company I worked at decided that they were going to murder someone, I would certainly voice my dissent. If they decided to continue to go through with it, I'd quit.

Sure, that's a bit hyperbolic, but consider companies like Palantir that work on things that actively erode citizen privacy. I'd never work at a company like that, and if my employer suddenly shifted gears to work on things like that, I'd quit.

"Following orders" is for the military... and even then I would hope someone in the armed forces would refuse to comply with an unlawful or otherwise morally horrible order.
Rust uses Hindley-Milner type inference. OCaml uses Hindley-Milner. Swift apparently uses a variant of the system with more features.

None of these make use of monads or anything rooted in category theory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindley%E2%80%93Milner_type_sy...

HM is a type system that also gives you an algorithm to infer types without having to do the "List<Integer> foo = new ArrayList<Integer>()" dance from languages without type inference. That's it. It has nothing to do with category theory.
I find it odd that he prefers losing all three stars over losing only one star. If he's willing to lose stars, can't he just ignore Michelin and simply cook the way he wants?

I'm reminded of Ron Blaauw, a Dutch 2-star chef who was also tired of the pressure of his 2-star fine-dining restaurant (not sure if it was Michelin or just the kind of restaurant), so he started his more informal "Gastrobar" for just a quick bite instead of Michelin-level dining, and was immediately awarded a star for it.
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You are nailing his actual opinion better than anyone else on here. No need to apologize.
You can't deny that lots of innovations came from defense research. APARNET came from the DoD. I personally wouldn't want to work in defense, but I wouldn't disrepect people working in there either.
I'm tired of two so wide spread dogmas - "will of majority is absolute good", "rich owes money to society, so we need rip them off".

I lived in Sweden and now I live in the Netherlands. You have better chance to meet alien from another galactic than a person who doesn't believe in these dogmas. So I definitely see absolute political monogamy here.

In centralized democracy high earners have absolutely no voice. I.e. formally they can vote but they will be always in the minority. So middle class and ultra-rich rule the game. Ones through voting, others through lobbying.

So middle class can very effectively rips off high earners (a good example - Sweden). In other words, middle class strive to "equalize" them as they are not normal. They completely forgot that high earners already brought value to society while earning their money.

The culture in many western european countries despise those who want to stand out of the crowd. So in this sense the crowd is against highly motivated and ambitious people.

That's why I don't believe that Europe could beat Silicon Valley without significant cultural shift.

Here are things I deeply hate in Swedish culture:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Jante

Very similar ideologically thing in Dutch culture "Doe Normaal" which often translates to English as "Act normal, it's already crazy enough".

Fortunately not every swede or dutch likes these "normality" things.
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My thoughts exactly. Unfortunately these days it's clear not everyone feels that way.
This position is about intelligence oversight. What's the link with being harsh on Google and Amazon?

What the article makes it sound like is that Thiel is against forms of censorship at the level of companies like Google and Amazon, which in a way is fine, right? (Or maybe I misunderstood?).

Also it sounds like Thiel would very much want to limit the role of the NSA in matters of domestic privacy, which is kind of what everybody wanted Obama to do.

Don't get me wrong, I really dislike libertarianism in that it necessarily leads to very unbalanced societies. And I especially dislike it when it's incoherent (like when libertarians are against immigration/freedom of movement).

But in matters of personal privacy, it's kind of good, no?

EDIT: ok - whoever downvotes this - please send a comment regarding why you think my comment is inappropriate / not interesting?
You're views (which I largely agree with) with ideas like strict regulations, higher taxation and solid safety nets sound more like European Liberal views rather than anything most people would recognize as libertarian. But I do understand that most political labels are pretty meaningless in isolation.
The right of self-determination is certainly a fundamental right (or that's what United Nations says, and Spain signed it).

I have never lived in Texas nor NYC, so I can't really say much about it. I believe that Catalonia is large enough to warrant a referendum if enough people want it, especially given that so many people disagree with the treatment they are receiving from Spain. I accept the argument that we might not be different enough, but it's not the main reason a referendum should be held, in my opinion, and I'm not aware of many people from Valencia or Balears who want to leave Spain. At which point a region of a country has the right to secede? Or you are implying that no region from no country should ever have that right?
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People need to understand this, as it is a snowball effect. Bush Left a 5 Trillion dollar debt (a 500% increase in debt). Then he signed TARP, and handed the mess to Obama, who distributed the subsequent rounds of 'quantitative easing' (I say this to ensure that neither politician gets a pass). We now have $20 Trillion debt, a 400% increase in the 'money supply', along with 0% interest rates for YEARS, and the economy still sucks. In some sewing circles, that's called 'deflation'.
This is all lovely and all, but... cookies?

If I were an ad network, I'd long ago switched to local storage and browser fingerprinting. Especially if it's my very survival as a business is at stake.
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I've used Expedia a bunch of times, and I've never been burned.

Though I do only use it for flight tickets, not for hotels. And I always go there in an incognito tab, to make sure I avoid any cookies etc.
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Foreigners can say it's tasty, but local people undertand the chemistry and culture of specific ingredients and why it was choosen for a dish. That's not specific for a japan, but there is big culture around those thinking in japan. It's similar to how pop-culture-nerds can explain you every little reference in a movie or game, and explain you the history of specific genres, features and franchises. For a cook, it might be more satisfying to cook for someone who challanges him, who can talk to im on his level, instead of just catering the masses who gulp down the food and complain about nonsical things, which doesn't bring him forward.

You can call it xenophobic, it probably is, but likely it's based on real experiences.
I wish that they would just publish that "hack" into the public, that way people would hopefully understand the dangers of "black boxes" and maybe even push intel and AMD to remove ME and PSP from their products.

I wish that open hardware (CPUS specifically) were more popular and closer to the market. RISC-V is still quite a long way off for everyday use (though I did see a risc-v based arduino thing, which is nice)
Would this also work for fitting non-rectangular images together? For example, lets say I have a whole bunch of irregular shaped pieces of flat paper (with pictures on them) and I want to fit them together in a single orientation to cover the smallest 2D area?
I just visited archive.is with the Tor Browser Bundle and had not problem accessing it.
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these rules apply to all PriceLine sites, its not just booking, but because booking either applied them first (and booking is one of the most profitable priceline companies) or they made the most money off them, all the others follow suit and add them to theirs

I used to work for RentalCars and as soon as booking put the "someone just booked" on the site, RentalCars had to follow suit even if the last car booked was 3 days ago
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FYI I tried building something similar running completely client-side a little while ago; I did not get very far TBH: http://users.telenet.be/bull/sudoku/
As for solving the sudoku: that's the easy part:
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> It is hard to be friends with someone that makes fundamentally different moral choices.

It's also how we arrive at a common baseline for morality.