skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Is someone working on allowing users to opt out of AMP when viewing search results? For users whose internet connections are fast and who cannot tolerate the browser UX being broken (can't copy URL out of address bar, back button doesn't always work properly, web pages often don't have comments, the list goes on and on seemingly forever).

Also, is someone working on a successor to AMP that doesn't break or try to replace the browser's own UI? Maybe something done at a lower level, maybe the HTTPS level? E.g., I could imagine something where the browser is informed that www.google.com is loading/proxying a web page on the user's behalf, and through some kind of verification system, it determines the website has given www.google.com permission to do so, and the browser UI updates itself to show the right address in the URL, etc. Maybe there's a better way to do all that, just one idea off the top of my head that seems infinitely better than AMP from a UX perspective.

Though it'd also be nice if you could get websites to make their actual main sites faster for everyone, maybe using a method like jacquesm suggested. That coupled with the low level proxying might be a nice alternative to what we have now.
I don't know, it doesn't seem useful to me. Especially since the thing you're quoting is currently the #1 comment.
Ask HN: Applying for jobs in unrelated specialisation?
I'm currently 5 years into an enterprise web services role, and have been looking for the chance to move over into iOS application development.
I work mostly with SOAP/HTTP & XML/JMS services, with some recent REST/JSON experience and a background in C# SQL-backed development.

A position has come up in a related agency looking for an 'experienced iOS developer'. I don't have any formal training, or finished personal projects to show, but have been learning Swift/iOS Development for the past couple of years through books and online courses, and am confident in my ability to pick up the rest on the job, if I were to get the position.

My question is: Have you been successful switching specialisations into a related field without meeting all the stated requirements of the job listing?
What are the best ways to communicate your eagerness for the new role while also showing you've got practical skills that will translate?
there are third party sellers on amazon groceries?
Better still: why not give you an option to enable it and default to normal.
I will be incredibly impressed with Apax if they are able keep this type of culture thriving.
One of the principles of tort law is that the penalty should account for the likelihood of getting caught. If your nuclear power plant melts down, punitive damages will be low, since there's no way you could have ever covered it up, and the plant will typically pay mostly compensatory damages for direct harms. For a tort where you expect that thousands of people have done it without getting caught, the punitive damages are very high so that the overall calculus for a prospective criminal becomes net negative expected value.

That's not a principle of criminal law in the US but often becomes part of the sentence extrajudicially.
Option one doesn't require downloading all the images backgrounds and and videos and other stuff until it's been determined that that should actually be displayed by reader mode.
Why not just punish slow sites? It would have been a lot easier than the zillion hours spent building AMP and the caching system.
Yeah I think there is so much focus on the JACKPOT that people totally miss how many millionaires are made at every drawing.

I think it is interesting to say the least.
Loved everything you said except the part about market dynamics being the culprit. I think you correctly identify the widespread availability of student loans as a key factor driving this bloat; but there's nothing "market-based" about them. In a market, interest rates would vary according to the risk of the loan. Bad schools which don't teach and don't actually improve student outcomes and simply spend on other things would suffer. Students who now go to schools who do nothing for them and have no chance of paying their loans -- or spend most of their adult life trying to -- would be dissuaded from making that incorrect financial choice. And, most of all, federal loan availability is conditional on all sorts of regulatory requirements, which makes it especially difficult for new entrants to challenge the current monopolies big schools enjoy.

I think if we addressed some of these issues -- and therefore did bring the state of higher education closer to a market -- we'd see these dynamics change.
TW wastes a lot of money; there are definitely cost cutting opportunities
No, most sports programs have highly paid coaches, and very few (4/250 or so) sports programs are even revenue-neutral. Most are in the red and are subsidized by fees charged to the students.
Thanks, this is interesting! I work at JHU/APL where there are people that do similar stuff, although I don't personally. The APL Astronomy Club is actually in the midst of trying to get some of our unused scopes & equipment in better shape and possibly put to use so I'm thinking about ways to automate things. Plus I'm not happy with the state of data processing for amateurs, it seems like everything is bespoke and old freeware or expensive software packages. That is what got me thinking about how the pros do things. Looking forward to your email!
Most jobs, at least at big employers, are split up into 4 quartile ranges. So bottom 25, lower middle 25, upper middle 25, and upper 25. Obviously super simple, but it helps to realize this framework going in.

You can actually buy textbooks on how to construct payroll guidelines...do this and you can backwards engineer what you should be getting.
Yeah, mostly back then we sat around and beat rocks together to make arrowheads, with the occasional pause to build nuclear-capable ICBM systems, travel to the moon and back, and put frickin' death lasers on dolphins.

"really innovative"...sheesh!

And, oh yeah, we started the "War on Cancer" and the "War on Drugs".
It’s stupid to say that it’s “close minded” for someone to come to a different conclusion about what level of processing is acceptable to them.
Only a tangent, but I just started a new job and used Google Maps to find me a route and it's absolutely glorious. It's on roads I never would have thought of, avoids streets with heavy traffic, only has 3 traffic lights.. I'm not sure if it's just dumb luck, or the fact that there are a decent number of neighborhoods through Palo Alto that are relaxed tree-lined streets, or what.. but it's only a couple miles shorter than my commute to my old job and an order of magnitude more pleasant. Looking forward to using this API to see if it recommends changes.
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This has nothing to do with "good" or "usable" fonts. Whether digits align is controlled with the pnum and tnum OpenType features.
This, crispr, and self driving cars are my favorite up and coming innovations that just seem mind boggling and that will make a profound impact in our lives. I think it is realistic to see widespread use of all 3 in the next decade.

The social media, apps, cloud, big data, and phone innovations have been neat but I'm looking forward to disruptions in non tech arenas. Space, electric and hydrogen fuel cell cars, so many fascinating things up and coming.
That's not the same @indirect.
I appreciate the info!

I'm really curious to see where using AMP as a proxy speeds up the page, versus applying similar optimizations on origin server?

If it's a cached page (served from any normal CDN), and crafted with similar optimizations [1] wouldn't it be just as fast, without needing to do the URL redirection?

Even if it were difficult to convince developers to implement the changes, couldn't many of the optimizations could be rolled into a module like PageSpeed [2]?

[1] - https://medium.com/@cramforce/why-amp-is-fast-7d2ff1f48597

[2] - https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/module/

Edit - Reformatted links; I forgot HN doesn't use Markdown.
I'm personally neutral on it. In general, product managers hate complicating the product experience with settings and engineers hate maintaining multiple code paths for the same feature.

We did add the link away from AMP, so that users who cared have a per-link opt out. We know that most users love the experience.
I think it's like gulping an aspirin instead of chewing on willow bark.
I’m neutral on most technology until I get a call that the ‘web is broken’ then I care. AMP made the jump for me this week.
I would agree, but dispute the claim that athletic scholarships are not "useful." Most collegiate athletes do not progress to professional careers in their sport. Their education (at least in theory) prepares them to be contributors to society after they graduate.

Athletics is an "auxilliary enterprise" at most educational institutions. It's self-funding, thanks to alumni donations and a few high-revenue sports (basketball and football for most, maybe hockey in some areas) that fund scholarships in all the non-revenue sports like rowing, golf, track and field, etc.

People like to gripe when the football coach makes more than the university president, but the football program funds that, scholarships for the players, and much more.
Please, please let us have an option to only see real links in search results... In my experience, AMP has been so annoying that I just want to disable it entirely for my Google account - why wouldn't this be an option?
You're right; the shift away from old-growth timber logging, along with fisheries decline/regulation, all had significant impact as well. We were talking about major employers causing city-wide economic trouble, though. Not sure Weyerhaeuser was as significant an employer in Seattle.
Of course the Seattle area is home to Microsoft and Boeing. Both have a huge amount of square feet. A single Boeing building in Everett, north of Seattle, is 4.3 million square feet. About half of Amazon's total.
That looks interesting, but I don't think it'll work for me, as I write in multiple languages and my main one (turkish) is agglutinative, so false positives would be many (it's really bad with aspell too, so I don't use it). I do use abbrevs though, I've added this function and mapped it to SPC to make it work seamlessly:

(defun gk-maybe-expand-abbrev-or-space ()
(interactive)
(when (null (expand-abbrev))
(insert " ")))
Please don't bring in someone's personal details into a discussion like this. That's outside the kind of site we're trying for here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

We redacted the name from the comment above.
By the numbers people tend to go to 4 year state funded schools.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/183995/us-college-enroll...

I think 'other than' isn't really the right phrase to use when excluding 3/4 of students.
Thank goodness

On a related note, anyone know an extension for desktop Chrome that converts AMP pages to non-AMP pages? Or is that not programmatically possible?
My understanding is that AMP pages load a cached version of the content inside a nested iframe. Doesn't this break browser extensions/bookmarklets that rely on processing the current HTML on the loaded page? Stuff like Instapaper or Pocket, for example?
I used an online Bayesian calculator, and can confirm that the math checks out
Yes, thanks for the reply; also commented in part because thought the use of "TL" without spelling it out might need clarification too.
Wow American sentences are out of this world. You get less than that for mass murder in Norway.
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You can't even do long term work at a university because you still need the funds for your employees / lab / equipment / materials / subjects. The university doesn't give you those funds, they only pay your salary, when you're tenured, so if you have tenure but no grant funding, it's just you in an office with a blackboard.

Sometimes that is enough (like in pure math) but there are lots of pursuits that are completely ruled out by the absence of additional funding.
As a counter-counter-point, I recently tried the Impossible burger, and while it's amazing, it's not remotely close to real meat. And that's in ground-beef-covered-with-cheese-and-sauce-and-toppings form. Impossible vs a great steak or some grilled salmon? No way.
30 students? Many of my lectures at UWaterloo in Canada were closer to 300. I guess that's why my tuition was only $10k.
Because that would not achieve the actual goal: to get people to stay on Google's properties, preferably without an ad blocker installed.

Note how over time more and more of the things that Google used to simply point to are served by Google directly. AMP is just another element in that strategy.
I didn't understand the State here, who did he harm? "All the people that were harmed", what does that mean?
The customer pays them. And the customer pays the markup on them. And it should generate positive net revenue unless something is done wrong, and I doubt that Thoughtworks is doing it wrong.
Good point, you not only need luck, but also need to be born with enough talent to take advantage of it.
How does it work if an exception gets thrown through a C stack frame that has outstanding resources (for instance, pointers that are freed later in the frame)? Are you referring to manual SJLJ?

In any case, it seems like C manual destruction has exactly the same problems as with RAII, because fundamentally the issue is passing exceptions through something that doesn't understand it, rather than with RAII.
The ethics might work, but the metabolization might not.
During the 80s, Yugoslavia was a us-allied communist nation that experienced hyperinflation due to economic mismanagement.
Wow, first thing I noticed using MapZen is it sends me over a heavily trafficked freeway overpass to my office... when a detour of only a few hundred feet has me going over a very pleasant bike bridge DIRECTLY into my office parking lot.

Will have to check out of the rest of the route vs what Google Maps has me doing now, though. I'm pretty happy with the current route but I'm new to this job so I've got a lot of route exploring to do.
Don't get too upset. Unemployment rates for new grads are pretty atrocious tyool 2017.
M0n-Sant0.[1] You know it, I know it, we all know it. We just forgot because they literally pays shills to make you think suggesting anything of the sort is loony. "Let nuffin go"[2](meaning no comment anywhere on the internet goes without a response) was their most organized campaign that I can think of. They literally had an entire office building dedicated to it.

There is plenty of surface information which will blow your mind, look into recent revelations(and historic) of M0n and the EPA colluding.

I'd suggest using a less popular search engine, due to the fact that unprecedented amounts of money are spent on disrupting discussion; and no company could admit to knowingly committed such crimes, not at the scale they've operated at. So it stands to reason that if they intend to continue to exist, somehow dominating google would the most cost-effective vector available to fragment and discredit criticisms.

If you really can't fathom the extent of what I suggest after doing some research, here is a quick 'red pill': Make a few well informed posts, blogs, reddit comments, Medium column, whatever, but obscure the spelling just as I did, and publish. Then do the same without obscured spelling. The # of responses you get on the latter, will blow your mind. I'd go as far as to claim substantial related credentials, and present your comment/article as a brief sneak-preview.

[1] Swap o for 0 & remove the hyphen. Subsequently abbreviated by 'M0n'
[2] Swap nuffin out for proper spelling.
Imo modern cars are basically small computers and everything else(seats,doors,wheels)is peripheral. I mean it is 2017 after all, don't you think it's about time we accept that cars are computers? Sure, we used to need humans to "complete" the computer part, seeing as we didn't have motherboards at first. But now computer is the core part of car and even humans aren't necessary. Why even bring your cell phone when your car is a cell phone? It's possible Apple needs the car to compete in a post cell phone world.
To be clear the worry was not about a meltdown, but that Thorium can be used to create Plutonium 233, per the article I cited.
The poorer neighborhoods didn't block the bikes. My impression: Upwardly mobile younger citizens liked the idea of bikeshare, so they built a system to serve their interests using pubilc (i.e., everybody's) money. The real value to bikeshare, IMHO, is the economic benefit to those who lack access to other forms of transportation such as privately owned cars and (automobile) ridsshare.
The firm who investigated presented at DEFCON this year. Here's the PDF.

https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2025/DEF%20CON%2025%20pre...
I like that Google's pushing for simplified pages. This is a good hedge against FB Instant Articles and the like.

What I don't understand is why they cache the page themselves, and make that the requested version.

It would seem like any cached page from a CDN would be just as quick.
I've recently moved to Chicago and two things I have noticed: what I can only assume are relatively lower income people buying incredible amounts of lottery tickets, expensive scratch offs at that. And chicken wing bones one the sidewalks.
Bitcoin was never claimed to be "anonymous." It operates under a privacy model called "pseudonymity," which was described elegantly in Satoshi's white paper.

The distinction is important because conflating privacy in general (and pseudonymity in particular) with anonymity is one way people get into trouble.
When will I be able to get into the AMP carousel without having to import the AMP script from Google’s servers?

I’d prefer hosting all JS locally. (Or at least within of EU jurisdiction, as Privacy Shield is likely going to fall in the courts, too, as Safe Harbor did before, and I don't want to end up liable for that (and I don't want to sell out my users to some foreign tracking company))
He wants "normal brands", cheap products (or at least not premium-priced), and doesn't care for pointless procedures around organic food. How is it elitist to assume that he isn't in the target demographic of Whole Foods?
Ah, yes, that is incredibly annoying behaviour. I was getting annoyed at this just yesterday! That would be fine on iOS if it only happened when you flicked the image, but scrolling from the side edges of the screen in Safari should always navigate forward and back.

They must have actually had to do work to override the expected behaviour and break the user experience, which I just don't get.
Pointless though as that is not how humans really assess risk. England tried thisin the 1700s or so. Replacing cops with harsh penalties. Did not work, punishment levels kept going up without any affect on crime
The Google Manifesto is a tangled knot of bad statistical reasoning
An algorithm that recreates 3D objects from tiny 2D images
Maybe different people have different opinions on healthy nutrition?

No way. Everyone knows the field of nutrition has been considered settled for decades.
Valid point. I deleted some of them in less relevant threads.
I always think of that... unfortunately I get nervous while flying and cannot just concentrate in anything. I usually only try to sleep, although I would love to be able to use that time to catch up on my reading and also some writing.
The annotated version with links to source data is probably a better option to link.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/climate-change-...
Sure you can. It is not obvious what the right methodology would be:

* Should you assume that losses are going to get worse? Lyft raised their largest round so far: $600M at $7.5 Billion. Presumably, they are going to use that money to get even more aggressive. I hear that some US markets are already a mess for Uber. Others are good.

* Should you assume it is going to get better? In the past quarter it has, so you might want to assume that it will continue. Also, I don't know if I trust Uber's financial reporting. This is clearly a PR move and you have a lot of choices in private accounting.

Assuming steady state does not strike me as an unreasonable way of forecasting.
Apparently their matket position gives them this ability.
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Not op, but: There is an official statement from Google that they are not higher ranked within of the results, but AMP links can get indirect ranking boosts, for example Google lists the top 4 or 5 relevant AMP links before the actual results in a carousel.

This is identical to the ranking boost given to Google Shopping (for which Google was just fined 3 billion EUR), so you can expect the same result.
Interesting description of Sculley's tenure at Apple as having been "mostly successful".
>"I mean it's pretty far from a scrip system at a mining town but they're capturing as much of the lives as possible of the people who work there for the two years or so they stick around on average."

Interesting, is two years a real average for an Amazon relocation hire in Seattle?
I think you misunderstood, the GP didn't imply they were free. In fact, that's kind of the point of the "company town" comparison -- force your employees to spend money in your stores.
Stephanie Seneff, you do know she's a huge quack?

As for protein isolates:

> That's why animals on soy feed need lysine supplements for normal growth.

No wonder eating a mono diet requires supplements. How can we expect protein isolates from a legume to be a super-powerful all in one food?

>Nitrites, which are potent carcinogens, are formed during spray-drying.

Cool thing to leave out that nitrites are used as preservatives and colorings in meat and consuming them without the added phytonutrients (available only in plants) removes the blocking effect and cancerous nitrosamines form.

Just check out google scholar for nitrosamines and meat. It's all over the place, hundreds of studies.

So, Stephanie Seneff is just scaremongering without sufficient evidence. Just like any food/ingredient demonization.

> Phytic acid remaining in these soy products greatly inhibits zinc and iron absorption

"phytic acid cancer" on google scholar, good thing it blocks heme iron absorption, wouldn't like to over-absorb it and get cancer.

> test animals fed SPI develop enlarged organs, particularly the pancreas and thyroid gland, and increased deposition of fatty acids in the liver.

Just like feeding mice 20% calories from casein protein (in milk) gets them cancer, and you can turn it off and on by lowering/increasing the casein amount. should we now scaremonger and tell that milk should be avoided, maybe whey protein also because it's filled with casein?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure there are crazy people out there willing to eat just whey powder and soy protein isolate all day long. For the sane folks, it's probably safe.

You can list out all the negatives, leaving positives out and make a demonizing picture out of any food/ingredient.
As bad as these things are, you wouldn't want them to be illegal.
Or the original allegation is totally baseless, which appears to be the case. You should have investigated the issue before insinuating the accused is a serial plagiarizer.
Even if the evolution rule is deterministic, it's still epistemically/indexically nondeterministic from the perspective of the observer.

Quantum events in the brain would decohere almost immediately, leading to effectively nondeterministic behavior at any scale above the cellular. The philosophical determinism of wavefunction realism (which is the LW argument) is irrelevant to the actual behavior.
The type you propose can inhabit both different variants at once, the entire point of Option is that it is either something or not.