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Consider the Macbook, instead of the Pro; the extra thousand dollars doesn't really buy you that much. One of the best things about the current Apple portable line is that you can always buy the cheapest (at around $1100) and still get an excellent machine.
How long before it can perform martial arts? Give it a configuration like this one:

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I've created a Startup School Chatterous room so that we can have a backchannel for the event:

Here are the instructions to join.

Web:
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Jabber/google talk:
add ss08@chatterous.com and send @join ss08

Email:
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Phone:
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Speaking as someone who's happiest with haskell and scheme, I have to say that what he needs to learn is that bad type/macro systems are oppressive, but good one's are amazingly powerful and expressive. (As that would be much better than simplistic types = bad but macros in general = good continuum)

The question is, how do you develop an aesthetic sense for these without say reading the research literature on both topics? I mean, it suffices to use the good examples of each for a while, pushing their strengths to the limit, but that at best gives folks a one dimensional view of the design of linguistic features, rather than a richer sense of strength, weaknesses, and tradeoffs.

As some other folks have mentioned, the other points are sort of irrelevant to the core of C#/++/java et al experience.

One point that seems to be missing is the (I think standard) point that interactively testing code by being able to interactively define or execute functions is FANTASTIC for developing, because it facilitates (IMHO) an easier process of evolving the software
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Looks like a lot of folks are hitting the SuperHappyDevHouse that evening. And others are talking about arranging dinner on the Facebook event page.

Regardless, you'd want to put it in the wiki. Having information spread all over the place means people will be spread all over the place (which is fine--too many people makes for crap conversation--but folks ought to be picking where to go based on complete information and consonance with the other folks showing up at the same places).
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These are good distinctions, and all categories (especially the lower ones) are well-represented on sites like digg, reddit, and this one.

But there's at least one more dimension to this that seems completely orthogonal, and that's identity. If you want your opinion to be appreciated, then I think that you should be willing to identify yourself. With so much information competing for my attention, I'm much more willing to pay attention to people that give me a way to track back to some background on them, whether they are famous or not. So unless you're worried about your opinion triggering a nighttime visit from the secret police, don't hide your identity. Mine's here: http://blog.neontology.com/about.
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Most major bay area law firms are happy to gamble on startups they like. Email me and I'll tell you more. Not sure it's my place to blow up my Lawyers on a public forum. I can certainly ask them if they want me too, but I'd rather not do it w/o permission. Like I said though, it's pretty common.
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I can tell you that the Thinkpads are better built and far more reliable. Even most Macbook owners I know who've had both will agree. We had 3 newer MBPs and a 1 yr old Lenovo X60 for 6 months in California. It seemed like the Macs were in and out of the shop constantly, experiencing all sorts of weird problems. Like most Apple products, the hardware is of mediocre quality and drastically overpriced, and the service is atrocious.

But you don't buy Apple comps for the hardware. If you like OSX better (and if you're programming, you most likely will) get a Macbook. Even with the troubles we had, our 3 programmers all agreed that they would not have switched back to Windows. We joked that we'd just keep an extra MBP on hand at all times, and honestly it's not such a bad idea.

Either way though I'd never buy a MBP refurb. That's just asking for trouble.
cool, ill start posting links to everything on the event wiki. I think everyone will decide based upon who they're talking to at the event, or just hop around everywhere.
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For anyone interested in learning about arguments and how to spot common logical fallacies like the ad hominem attack i would recommend the podcast "LSAT Logic in Everyday Life" from the Princeton Review.

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Great post by the way!
OSX is great, but you can get a really powerful new Thinkpad with SUSE enterprise preinstalled for a good price. An effectively maxed out Thinkpad with 4 gigs of RAM and discrete graphics is $1200.

I've been using a Thinkpad X41 tablet as my laptop for a while. Nothing important has broken, but some non reinforced plastic has broken/is breaking off, like the door to the PC card slot. The build quality is still better than all other Windows laptops, which is really sad.
I'm still using a G4 Powerbook. The aluminum mac laptops are a pain to disassemble. The MacBook Pros are improved over the Powerbooks, but you're still dealing with lots of little jeweler's screws. If that's not an issue, then I think Mac laptops are great. Also, do not drop them on their hinges. That won't necessarily break them, but they will get distorted and not close in exactly the same way again.

I also own an old Thinkpad T22. I like them as no-nonsense laptops that run Linux well. But if you want something that is just put together and just works, and ultimate ruggedness and graphics card speed is not a priority, I recommend the Mac.
"The student currently in charge of the honor code project said it was an oversight, but cheating experts say it illustrates a sloppiness among Internet-era students who don't know how to cite sources properly and think of their computers as cut-and-paste machines."

I have two things to say about this paragraph:

1) "Cheating experts say"... Cheating experts? Really?? Is this kind of phrasing any better than "They say that..." or "Everyone knows that..."?

2) If "cheating experts" see things one way, while "Internet-era students" see things another way, which point of view is more likely to survive in the long term?
Your assumption is totally false. I'm Russian and I can tell you that more than 80% of Russian pupils join universities (or a college) after 11 years of school. Standard university education program lasts for 5 years, after that you can join "aspirantura" (a post-gradute form of education) for another 4 years and only then you can earn some science degree. Doctor of Science is the highest degree which is usually earned at age of 50. On the opposite, the US's "phD" can be compared to the lowest possible degree here (no one will call/treat you as a scientist if you under 30). Russian academic system is very different from what you have in US or in EU. I believe same applies to Brazil and Argentina and many other post-soviet countries which blindly copied everything from Soviet Union system. So, it's very inaccurate to compare education level of countries that way as on the pic since there's still no unified standard adopted by them.

From my personal perceptions, I admit that more and more ppl here in Russia tend to get higher degrees, hence require higher sallaries. This causes a great problem in society - no one wants to clean streets and work on plants, everybody want to be bankers or at least some financial/oil tycoons. And programming/CS is considered as "street cleaning". :-(

PS: The only seemingly correct assumption that can be made based on the pic is that China, Brazil and India will stay the best "outsource dirty work to" countries at least for the next decade :-).
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Timothy Gowers does some pretty cool research, anything that cross fertilizes analysis and combinatorics is pretty awesome.

For the two problems in the talk regarding sequences of prime numbers, I suggest folks check out the green tao theorem : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green-Tao_theorem
Are you sure you didn't read the wiki from last year's event? I checked out the page for the 25th SHDV and there is no time or date scheduled. Nonetheless, I think we should get them to schedule it. It was a lot of fun last year! I'll contact one of the organizers.
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At this point, I should point out that Einstein published his work on special relativity at the age of 26. If it takes 50 years to earn a Doctor of science, the education system is chocking itself. By that age, scientists are too set in their ways to think up anything new (with rare exceptions).
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I was looking at both types of computers as well: I chose the MBP (pre-penryn). I made the switch to Mac but also have VMWare fusion to run XP VM's for my java developing (work) and Vista (from my boot camp partition).
I feel like I definitely made the right decision--I have a hassle-free computer (OS X is amazing) and the option to run windows when I need to (IBM Rational Java development for work).
The T61 is one solid computer--but having to muck around with Linux is a pain and Windows Vista/XP, though decent, just aren't as versatile as OS X (of course this is based on my experience). Plus, you get to work in an environment with the option to use a Unix Terminal (no need to mention MS's Unix Terminal here...). The experience you'll get learning and using Unix commands for your development is invaluable.
Not me. Current crop of Thinkpads I've seen (about 2 dozen or so) have been utter crap. Multiple hard drive failures, cheap construction, flaky as hell.

I've used MBP and MB and prefer both over current gen Lenovos.
>Do we need to go through the pointless excercise of demonstrating all the instances of freeloading that you aren't comfortable with?

Go for it.

In the end, I am comfortable with the damage done to content producers. Since there appears to be no solution that will maintain the status quo, there's going to be dramatic change in the information industry. Already, smart commercial software developers sell a service rather than a binary executable. I love live music, soon I will be able to see more of it. There will be less uber-produced studio music, but I'm fine with that. I don't care for Hollywood blockbuster movies. They're ok sometimes, but I can handle a future without them. I watch TV with advertisements when it is available online; generally there are far fewer commercials than in the cable/broadcast version.

What do you think the solution to the problem is? Or describe your idealized where content producers are fairly compensated when technology allows for their works to be freely copied.
That's really a sad fact. Insurance companies are in it for the profit sadly.
Creating the list of URLs and prioritizing them is the hardest thing about building a crawler! That is, a good, web-scale one. A replacement for wget might be sort of fun, but the real way to make a fast crawler is to be choosy about which pages get updated frequently, which are likely to contain good content (by computing a pagerank-like stat on the fly), etc.

It is far from my area of expertise, but the Wikipedia page about this looks very useful. It cites a bunch of wicked smart people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_crawler

If you just want to suck down a bunch of pages, then there's nothing wrong with wget.
there seem to be no correlation between the percentage of educated people and the GDPP. just by glancing at this nations starting with Russia moving towards China, i can state with confidence that a nation with more educated people does not innovate more than others. one thing i would like to know is why some nations are simply more educated than others? and what difference (economically, even politically )does it make if one country is more educated than others?
Apparently it's higher than the percent of people trying to squint at that image in 1680x1050. :-(
> "Mobile phones could kill far more people than smoking or asbestos"

They may. They may not. Unlike smoking, it would be entirely foreseeable.

> If everybody has a mobile phone, then it's impossible to limit the cause for their health failure to a mobile phone, so no study can proove anything...

I disagree. A Finnish study found that cochlea cancer was more common in the right cochlea of mobile telephone users.
In Russia for example there is no 3 years bachelor degree only 5 years degree which is equivalent to masters degree in North America.
So the comparison is useless .
This boggled my mind. I knew there were pressure groups pushing TV people around, but I thought it was about specific political issues and sexual mores. But pushing general conformity as a virtue? I mean, what narrow interest group really wants that? Narrow interest groups are themselves non-conformers!
I agree. This isn't dig, this isn't Reddit, nor should it be.
You know there is also this new OS called Linux. Reportedly works great on apple hardware too... And also, yes, many people buy apple machines for the hardware.
I've also posted details on how to join on the Startup School wiki: http://wiki.startupschool.org/doku.php?id=ss08_chatterous_ro...
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> C++ here reminds me of Perl

I agree with you at least that far! ;)
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Do you know that Einstain was recognized as crazy fag in his 20th and it took him next 20 years to improve his theory and make it real science before he was nominated as genious.

I strictly believe that one has to produce ALOT of theoretical AND practical knowledge before being recognized as scientist, which is not the US case. In US you write down your 100 pages thesis of nothing, partisipate in a couple of speak-about-everything-and-nothing-in-particular conferences and woah you are a scientist! The value of science is heavily and rapitly devaluating :-(.

PS: Same trend is happening here in Russia.
I like the T43 better than the T60p I have, but of course the specs aren't as good. There is something more straightforward about it. I've gotten refurbished models that have never let me down.
Just for the sake of clarity, where are we posting events on the wiki? I assume this page: http://wiki.startupschool.org/doku.php?id=meeting_up_2008
If using Linux, I'd recommend the Lenovo hands down. The hardware is clearly superior and significantly cheaper.
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I'd like to extend that principle to computer hardware in general.

Unless money really isn't a priority, or you're doing something which absolutely relies on top-end performance, buying high-end hardware is unnecessary and the cost will outweigh the surprisingly slight real-world advantage.

Buying mid-range is the sweet spot in terms of build quality, performance and price and even if it means upgrading 6 months earlier the savings are considerable.
>the comparison is useless

can you explain why do you think the comparison is useless? the diagram shows population with "at least a college degree", so if you are suggesting that 5 year degree should be harder to get than a 3 year degree, then we should expect Russia to be behind other nations.
I'd recommend a macbook for linux, precisely for the superior hardware to price ratio, but many aspects of how you define superiority come down to personal preference I guess. My point only was that lenovo+windows and mac+osx aren't the only choices at all. In fact, I may be mistaken, but I think speedwagon wasn't even considering windows as an option.
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GDP havily depends on population itself. With its 1B of under-paid ppl, China has a lof of workers who produce VALUE, hence increase GDP. You know what was the greatest achievement of Chinese communist government ? It was the idea to let their ppl work and get paid for their work. The rest was done en masse :-).
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>a nation with more educated people does not innovate more than others

based on the chart you are dead wrong -- Russia was and still is one of the key competitors of US in innovation, albeit in the sectors outside of the semiconductors and IT (which I assume you know best). Russia is an innovator in space, weapons, nanotech and other industries, so i wasn't surprised to see them in the upper 10%. I must admit seeing them at #1 was surprising.

Going from right to left, Japan certainly makes sense as an innovator (e.g. manufacturing), Korea (electronics), Nordic countries(telcom), etc.

On the other hand, countries from Peru and on down are hardly innovators on anyone's list.
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3 countries out of 30 make an exception, not a rule. i am not saying these countries are not innovative, but to my knowledge France, Denmark, Norway, Ireland, Korea, Japan and Canada are not more innovative than the US.they may be more advanced in one field like telecom, or medecine, or car manufacturing, but as a whole these nations are not more innovative then the US or India, therefore a more educated nation does not mean it will innovate more.
>ALOT

I am Russian and I can tell you that it is spelled "A LOT". Anyway, you are overgeneralizing about the US education system. It is true that in many universities one can get away with writing 100 pages of nonsense for a PhD, that is not the case in the top tier schools. The entire system is premised on rankings, i.e. top schools produce top scientists who produce top results and get the most grant money. Lower ranking schools produce the "fat tail" of PhDs who are more involved with teaching, collaborating with the industries, going corporate, etc.

In the US, the unspoken assumption is that if one really wants to be a "scientist", they can become one, virtually independent of their ability. I guess the intention is that one's efforts should be harnessed productively vs. generating frustration.
What does this have anything to do with Hacker News? Celebrity gossip? Or is it just me?

Edit - Just checked ckhhrryiss profile, three submissions, all from the same website, all that have nothing to do with to do with HN
Ok, so the segway didn't change the world, but I completely believe that Dean Kamen can, in fact, change the world. This plus the water purifier, plus the thousands of kids brought into robotics and science via the FIRST program... I kind of feel like he's a modern Edison, despite being a dropout from a second tier technical school. I guess someone forgot to tell him that pleasing your professor is more important than pursuing your dreams.

What's important about this, too, is that we, as software folk, often forget that there are many, many different kinds of technical "start-ups," that have nothing to do with the web or personal computers. It's nice to be reminded that the technical world has room for small, lion-y robotics and biotechnology start-ups, as well.
Education is less important than economic freedom (free trade, property rights, rule of law) in terms of higher per capita GDP.
GDP per capita has the same denominator as the graph: it is the populatin itself, which is why i did not bother looking at the GDP only but the per capita.
India is a bad example -- it suffers from a huge, uneducated population and the fact that top minds usually leave the country (until recently) and spend their most productive years abroad. Do you have any examples where India can claim world-class innovations that weren't created elsewhere?
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