skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> Edith: I disagree completely and utterly that the (yes, real) average differences between men and women map to being better or worse at certain jobs. Interest in certain jobs, certainly.

This is, I think, the key. We can all recognize that there are REAL, average differences in interests between men and women, DEFINITELY driven by society/culture, and maybe by biology/genetics... BUT, this has absolutely no correlation with performance. If fewer women are, on average, interested in software engineering, this absolutely does NOT mean that women software engineers are, on average, worse at their jobs.

The error so many "Team-Damore" men make is that they zealously stand behind the argument that "Better-performing men are being overlooked in favor of worse-performing women/minorities." And yet there is absolutely no way to possibly back up that claim: can anyone clearly demonstrate over the course of a statistically significant number of hirings that most of the women candidates who were hired were A)chosen from a candidate pool that included at least one equivalently-or-more talented man; and B) that those men who were not picked would have been both better performing as individuals and better employees for the team/company as a whole? No. Nobody has shown this because it is, essentially, impossible to demonstrate. Citing studies of character traits or interests of men and women "on average" does absolutely nothing to support claims A and B. And so all these men end up doing is simply implying: "well, I BELIEVE that all these real women coworkers of mine are worse than the hypothetical male candidate that wasn't hired... on average." Which is clearly an insult to your existing coworkers and toxic to your work environment.
We have an article about how to do it yourself with nginx, if you feel like setting up a bunch of servers in different places: https://fly.io/articles/delivering-multiple-applications-on-...
I had that feeling of discovering Internet again when I used tor and surfed hidden websites for the first time and read beginner's wikis, opinions pieces such as The Matrix, etc.
A lot of them are also looking for people to train, simply because they can see how few years they have left before the last guy that knows the code retires.
My uncle Pat wrote this book (and multiple others in the same series). I'm amazed Vice is talking about it over twenty years later and I'm sure he will be too once I show him the link!

I had lots of fun reading them as an Internet-addicted kid -- but several of the links were dead even before it was officially published.
> If he didn't know any women at work that he trusted with this then that itself is a huge problem.

Given the fact that he was fired over this, i.e. Google thinks it's very bad, and assuming he had a hunch this was so, is it reasonable to believe he should be able to trust a female coworker with this memo not to file a complaint?

Put more generally: is it reasonable that one should expect one's coworkers to keep silent about a fireable offense?
There's something to be said for that. It's always interesting how a natural disaster can bring a community together, often for the first time. Maybe it'd be nice if these sorts of things would be done in a more structured manner.
What does this have to do with a hostile working environment?
I'm from the East Coast and I took both, submitted both on college applications (I actually did slightly better on the ACT, not sure if it helped) but yeah SAT was given priority in school/training programs. I had to seek out the ACT.
No, rather the opposite. Coding makes my mind clearer. If you get a headache and neck ache, then that is most likely due to poor ergonomic setup. Things like better chair and sitting right should help. Or perhaps you need terminal glasses.
> People who think we don't need diversity efforts

The memo in question explicitly supported the goal of improving diversity and provided concrete suggestions on how to do so.
Any amount of unexplained rectal bleeding is reason enough to schedule an appointment with a doctor.

The doctor is likely to recommend a colonoscopy. Removal of polyps (a likely source of bleeding) reduces the chances of cancer developing and can only be done during a colonoscopy.
Of course there are strong social influences - little boys are given toy trucks while little girls are given dolls. But that's not the same thing as discrimination in hiring and the workforce, which is what these affirmative action policies tackle.

> "And no, the diversity debate doesn't 'get too much attention'. It gets significantly less attention than it should"

First of all, it's not even a "debate" as the memo has shown. It's a one-sided emotional crusade against the opposition, and you're not allowed to disagree with the hivemind.

Why is it only considered a "problem" and attention-worthy when women are underrepresented? Nobody gives a shit about men being underrepresented in certain professions, or women being underrepresented in the trades. There's a clear double standard here.
"Before you know it any speech even mildly critical of immigration is silenced and you get the situation going on in Europe."

This seems... odd. I don't think right now there's any (western) European country where this occurs. Sure: it has occurred and has contributed to a backlash against 'political correctness'. But this doesn't sound like a description of the Europe I live in. Just the stereotypical Europe shown on some american TV, where muslims run a lot of cities and all ghettos are offlimits to non-muslims.
>both the left, the feminist movement, and the right fanned the flame against male teachers

I find it hard to believe that this would be generally true. Source?

Edit: obviously you're always going to have some twats doing things like that, but that's true for everything. I'm looking for evidence that it's more than average here.
archive.is is very nice, but they're a URL-shortener as well, so their links are utterly opaque strings of alphanumerics, whereas the Wayback Machine preserves both the full original URL and the date and time it was captured in the archival URL.
Sure but you don't go fishing for antifa, you get a search warrant if you have a reasonable suspicion of criminal activity.
Does your workplace have a very large group of young Earth creationists? Does it go out of its way to recruit them? If so, have you posted a ten page memo that says that the hiring bar has been lowered by that effort?
I suffer from imposter syndrome all the time... but that's on me, not someone else. If you hire someone because of diversity alone over someone with a higher level of merit, then that was wrong. Also, telling someone that they were hired for diversity reasons alone is probably a bad move as well.

I'm not saying that people shouldn't try to get more women into tech, or into trash collection, or construction, or every other male dominated occupation, or men as nurses, etc... however, that doesn't mean having to change the rules for men or women. And pointing out that there are differences between men and women shouldn't instantly start of with a storm of hate.

"the average woman is shorter than the average man" ... "typical misogynistic cis white male patriarchal bullshit" ...

I'm not saying that everyone is volatile and prone to fits of excessive rage in response, but it really feels like there's no place for civil discussion or discourse with a growing portion of the population.
Which translation was this? Pevear and Volokhonsky?
AT&T U-verse uses multicast for live TV streams. They start off as unicast streams but after about 60s the multicast stream is picked up.
Clever. :( Sorry!
Thank you! Yes, there are many applications beyond customer insights. We are dabbling into these also. What's your company?
Care to summarize? It's a wall of quotes.
Even these articles will mention that the benefits to SEO are secondary to good, relevant content that is well structured and semantic. There are downsides as well. Your ability to run paid search is limited by your domain. You can't bid for multiple positions on the same keyword with a single property. In practice, our businesses have had a much better return from the SEM benefits than the minor SEO boost.
Can't agree on number 2, because it's a false dichotomy. The gender imbalance cannot be simplified to being because of any one specific cause (like a difference in personal interests). There is a whole cluster of causes, including:

1. Malicious actions by men. This undoubtedly happens, let's not pretend otherwise. However, it might not be very common.

2. Non-malicious but annoying behavior from men directed towards women. This could include unwanted flirtation, accidental condescension, inappropriate jokes, etc.

3. A male-oriented culture. Even if the guys don't act in an annoying way, being in a significant minority is usually less appealing than being in a situation where you have a more even gender split.

4. Boys and girls are nurtured in different ways, which can drive them towards having different interests as adults.

5. Biological differences between men and women. Personally, I think this is one of the least important factors, and it's also the only one that we can't change.

Whether or not (5) is an issue, (1-4) can and should be addressed, so that women who are naturally inclined to CS are not nudged away from the industry by their life experiences.
I desperately want make male childcare workers for my children. I honestly could careless about women in tech. Installing a more even view of gender on our kids will prob do a lot more good for women in tech in the long term than any amount of screaming now.
No, I didn't misread the memo:

> While Google hasn’t harbored the violent leftists protests that we’re seeing at universities, the frequent shaming in TGIF and in our culture has created the same silence, psychologically unsafe environment.

What he does is list "compassion for the weak" as a "left bias". That's not necessarily a statement in support of leftist ideals when combined with this two assertions:

> In addition to the Left’s affinity for those it sees as weak, humans are generally biased towards protecting females.

> The same compassion for those seen as weak creates political correctness[11], which constrains discourse and is complacent to the extremely sensitive PC-authoritarians that use violence and shaming to advance their cause

(Which, BTW, is right before the first thing I quoted.)
This is the type of resentment / thinking that he wants the company to steer away from. If they do encode 'lower bar' policies, it's an inevitable and rational conclusion to draw, which is incredibly toxic I agree. By taking other approaches to diversity at different stages in the funnel, that toxic inevitability is avoided.
I was confused initially, thought I had left my usual synthwave radios on. :)

May I add to the recommendations below:

1) Makeup and Vanity Set (MaVS)

https://makeupandvanityset.bandcamp.com

Still my favorite composer, a couple years after discovering the genre, thanks to his richness and variety. Where other composers start to blend into the same 80s synth mush, MaVS manages to keep it interesting for me. Hard to recommend just one title, but maybe Stalker from the album Wavehymnal

2) Bourgeoisie - Space Tapes and Vice album

https://bourgeoisie.bandcamp.com/album/space-tapes-and-vice-...

3) Ogre Sound - 195 album

https://ogresound.bandcamp.com/album/195

Features a track titled "Revengeance Overcharge" for that 110% 80s satire.

4) Le Matos - Join Us album

https://lematos.bandcamp.com/album/join-us

5) There'd be tons more, but really Google Music's "Makeup and Vanity Set" auto-radio is gold.
People have been complaining more and more lately about Amazon's problems with counterfeiting.
That wired article was excellent. And it proves one thing to my mind. Regardless of everything else, Damore's memo has lead me to vastly expand my knowledge of the debates in this domain, through just being a curious observer watching it all unfold. It's been wonderful, if extremely provocative, in generating proper debate on the subject, focussed on all possible angles, from writing style, to science, to hiring policies.

Amidst all this, Google firing him is the biggest shame.
> By remaining silent on this topic or tweeting support for Damore, they are sending a message that philosophical arguments and principles take precedence over the lived experiences of many smart, talented female engineers and technical founders.

In my world view philosophical principles generally take precedence over lived experiences of others. Lived experiences are not universal, cannot be relayed exactly (memories are often colored and retellings may be selective to make a particular point). If we want our ethical systems to apply to everyone, to be inclusive, we need principles that work for everyone, not just correctives for individual cases.

A lot of TFA appears to put emotion, form, "lack of consideration" and presentation over facts. I am abstractly aware that those things have quite an impact on people. But it is quite alien to me, in text form the factual content of argument is more important because text can be easily misinterpreted and it is not a dialogue where the writer can clarify and correct any misunderstandings.

That said, the response is still far more measured than the immediate news and social media response.

> Social skills are part of a professional skillset. It is important to learn how to handle difficult subjects in a workplace – we all have to do it. There are consequences for doing it in a way that causes problems for your employer

He was not the one who leaked it. It was those people who were so offended that they thought the world had to see it instead of engaging in a discussion with him.
If the issue is "causing problems for the employer" then aren't those others also guilty?
> to publicly say what they want, when they want, using company systems

That just makes you another person distorting what happened. I know I'm correct, I don't need further proof, but thanks.
2 stroke Wartburg or Trabant.
Fixed! Good thing our site's setup through fly.io!

https://fly.io/onehostname/
Dr. Sadedin's Quora answer is pretty good:

https://www.quora.com/What-do-scientists-think-about-the-bio...
> and a communication tool so powerful that it could abort war.

Ha. If anything the clash of cultures that the web facilitates is more likely to start wars.
I think if you want to critique author's approach to discussion, you need to learn first what it actually was.
Do you understand what's happening here? Whether or not google "lowered the bar" (i.e. had distinct hiring criteria for men or women) is a fact and only a fact. It may be a true fact, or it may be a false fact. But it is not an opinion.

But somehow it gets turned into "This means he thinks women are worse, therefore he's insulting women, therefore it's a hostile workplace, therefore he got fired." That reasoning is a major leap, and it's not Damore's leap.

Taking a fact and turning it into a hostile-workplace-opinion is the real problem.
I think the takeaway is to not express any opinions that go against mainstream in public.
> People involved with the private high schools liked to brag about the high scores their students scored on standardized tests – without bothering to mention that you had to score well on such a test to get into them in the first place. This is, as I’ve said before, akin to having a height requirement for your school and then bragging about how tall your student body is.

Not quite — kids don't get shorter over time, but they can easily get worse grades/scores. It's true that having a screening test makes it more likely that your students will score well on other tests, but it's not a guarantee (as it is with the height example).
Indeed, however Google have said that their hiring practices for minority groups involve looking harder in those groups for candidates, not hiring candidates who don't meet the usual standards.
Most of those deployments are not against forces rejecting traditional political authority.
Look at the act of coding itself. But also look at your overall work environment. It could be the stress of focusing in the face of distractions. It could be allergies. Or bad lighting.
No. I am saying that giving the definition of a set each time is just extra verbosity. The whole paper had that extra verbiage, everywhere. Kind of why-use-one-word-when-ten-will-do feeling.
> Sending a troubled kid to a great private school probably will cause the kid to do better ... However selection bias already does this

Funny thing, though. We've done a bunch of studies on this and it doesn't actually help. The people who care about their kids more getting them into better schools, yes - but placing the kids of parents who don't care into better schools, no.

This has been shown time and time again. The best results to the contrary managed this by ... drumroll ... designing selection bias into the study.
Specialized landing pages are one of the few time it makes sense to have separate hostnames. Which is why we put this on onehostname.com.
> Even if those values contain owned references into the heap, the programs can be trivially proven to be correct.

I don't think that's true. Passing data to a function when it's not a reference means that you're giving ownership to that function. How could you then pass it to another function (unless the first returned it again)? Once a function has ownership, it means nothing else has ownership of the data.

Basically, if you write a function that just takes a value, and doesn't take a reference, then you're telling your callers to give you ownership. If you don't want to take ownership, then just always accept a reference.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the problem you're having. Do you have an example of another language that lets you do what you want?
Root cause is the same bad policies.
Why Talla Hacked Our Own Onboarding JoyRide Framework to Be Less Precise
AngelList ( https://angel.co for VC jobs and funding )
asks "What's the most useful business-related book you've ever read?" ...
Getting Things Done (David Allen),
43Folders = 12 months + 31 days (Merlin Mann),
The Art of the Start (Guy Kawasaki),
The Personal MBA (Josh Kaufman)

Lever ( https://www.lever.co ) makes recruiting and hiring (some parts of HR) really easy.

LinkedIn ( https://www.linkedin.com ) also has a large selection of qualified talent:
https://smallbusiness.linkedin.com/hiring

... How much can you tell about a candidate from what they decide to write on themselves on the internet?
No. "Dwarves" and "dwarvish" were deliberately introduced by Tolkien as a way of making Middle-Earth language stand apart from English. He mentions it as a deliberate choice in the foreword.

It's a mark of the popularity of his books that people assume that's the correct spelling in English, because that's the most common form of it they've seen, but "dwarfs" is the correct usage outside Middle-Earth.
When I said "But take-back over generations" I was not referring to an inheritance tax. I was referring to preventing new people from becoming as wealthy as today's wealthy by changing to a very large marginal income tax rate. It would be clearer if I said "widdle down the size of wealthy class over time". By far most of the wealthy today are new money, so an inheritance tax would do little in that regard anyway.

But back to inheritance:

> not maintained across several generations (3+)

You're inventing problems. Inheritance decreases exponentially. Multi 3+ generational wealth is already divided by 64 times (assuming 2 children + spouses). It is not possible without the children putting in significant work themselves. You're inventing problems.

At least we have common ground. Being able to pass on our successes to our children is a large and important motivator in life - one that would be incredibly unwise to remove.
The heterodox article is one of them, but they also link to several others they saw as reasonably backed up by the literature cited. The included counter points as well if they were written by people in that field.
Dear dear. We are approaching peak neo-leftist fascism with articles like this. Try to imagine replacing all the references to men with references to women, or blacks, or Jews. You would swiftly be excommunicated.

Also some hilarious pseudiness thrown in for good measure: self described 'Expert in public health innovation' no less, 'catalyst for paradigmatic change in their worldview of how women act'.. Excessive, gratuitous and vacuous prolixity is not akin to good prose.
If postgresql corrupts your data upon sudden halt you have far bigger problems to worry about.

And as far as I know most software acts responsibly with files, either writing out the new version to a temp file or using sqlite. Both of which are atomic-snapshot-safe.
Damore never said that women were worse engineers

You're just saying "He couched the point well-enough", he didn't say they were worse engineers, he just said they weren't naturally inclined to work with things. Sure that doesn't literally state that women as worse, it just casts an equivalent shadow on a woman wanting to be an engineer.
They cover prescriptions, but not the ongoing meetings to get the type II drug prescriptions.
Gates also acts as an economic enforcer for the IMF, quite literally using his charitable giving as a carrot/stick to force nations to accept policy decisions and often crippling loans from the IMF. But you don't have to take my word for it, listen to the man himself:

During the panel, Bill Gates and Jim Yong Kim concurred on the need to leverage increased private sector financing in development through business-friendly policies. While the World Bank President hailed countries who made “unpopular” policy choices, critical to “let private sector investors feel comfortable,” Gates hammered away the need to “reform the system” and underlined development aid’s capacity to influence the process.

Both ignored their co-panellist and Governor of the Reserve Bank of India, Raghuram Rajan, who called for development efforts to support the policies that developing countries want. Rajan also noted that global transparency on taxes and removal of barriers imposed by rich countries on exports from the developing countries would help build a more equitable world.

https://www.oaklandinstitute.org/blog/little-help-bill-gates...
> A (future) extension of this app is the optimisation of functions which cannnot be writted as mathematical expressions (such as a PDE model) by using user-input values of some points of the function to optimise. If this is particularly interesting to you don't hesitate to send a mail.

This is an interesting venue, but how would you go about this without solving the PDE model, itself? I work in a similar area of manifold learning, where our objective is a functional of a solution to a PDE (which is, in some sense, a generalization of that idea), but there seems to be no obvious way of optimizing this program without solving for at least the eigenfunctions of the PDE. I'd be curious to hear what the author has in mind.

Additionally, I'm also curious as to what algorithms are being used; derivative-free (incl. subgradient-free) methods are usually quite sub-optimal for most classes of problems that I know of, but I'm not sure what the intended audience is, here, so perhaps this would perform quite well in those cases?

Anyways, I'd love to test it! But I think HN gave the page the hug-of-death so it's giving me an error...