skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> You can, and some people have, and that's okay.

Ok, no one owes anyone a debate, unless you're going to call it wrong, sexist, harmful, etc. Then in that case, I'd like some reasoning behind it. Either don't debate, or do and do it right.

> women are on average less able

Please don't do this. What he claimed was that women have less inclination to go into tech due to various pressures, some biological. If you're referring to his referencing the 'big five' personality traits, you'll note that he addresses both positively and negatively associated traits of both men and women in regards to working with software. He never stated that the combination of differences makes one gender better than the other.

>until Damore can propose a model that predicts another number

Why? All he did was put forth evidence and suggest that 50/50 might not be ideal, why must another number be presented in order to have a discussion on the subject? Speculation on my part, but is it because it's an easier target to shoot down if you can point to an exact number and claim it's wrong for your own variety of reasons?

Obviously, policy changes are going to be a goal if Damore's evidence is proved right (Policy is at the root of the problem according to Damore). Why are you presenting them like two separate things? You're not even considering the fact that the evidence might support his conclusions.

>diversity as a whole(race not just gender)

Because whenever diversity is discussed, it is almost done so as a whole. Obviously Damore wanted to focus on gender, but diversity initiatives virtually always include both. It would seem awkward to avoid race entirely. And he never made any claims on just race, go to the memo and ctrl-f "race". Every time it appears, it's accompanied by "and/or gender". In several of these cases, it's because a study he's citing mentions both. I would call that being thorough, not intellectually dishonest.

>These studies may be good science, but stringing them together to confirm a conclusion you'd already set your sights in making is bad science.

You can make this claim about any paper that claims something not trivially arguable from scientific studies. To say this, you have to go through piecewise and show why the connections he's making from solid scientific studies don't apply to his arguments.
I hate going to a regular movie theatre. They are huge, crowded, you have to get there early to get a good seat, the chairs are uncomfortable, etc.

On the other hand, I love going to higher end movie theatres that aren't large, you get to pick and reserve your seats online, they have reclining chairs and one of the theatres I go to serves food while you watch.
This is annoying when your development environment involves a VM or Docker container, though. You have to figure out how to "run production in development" just to start playing around.
Hmm https://github.com/thephpleague/fractal

And it's underlying Transformers object API .... ?
tl;dr

jk :D

Lots of this sounds familiar. Perhaps I need to see my doctor!
I bought PolarPro Vivid filters and have tried them once so far, but it was quite cloudy. Yet to try them with a lot of sun/glare.

Otherwise just flying raw and then fixing in LightRoom. By default, the raw shots come out very blasted and unlike what the eye sees.
> Earlier today to get caught up, I looked at Twitter for the just three people I follow, one of whom is Trump, and saw no such thing.

It was deleted shortly after:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/trump-shar...
This. Attempting to reduce such a complex issue into a single root cause ("oh women simply aren't interested in this field") is deeply misguided, not to mention intellectually lazy.
Not SV, but SF is quite high in crime.
I think of it as participating in these kind of discussions without risking my career.

But I hear what you're saying, and I agree that this post was needlessly confrontational. I'll try to be a better HN citizen!
When someone goes and says the bar was lowered, that's a tacit insult to all minorities in the company.
They're not wrong to worry about that, it's a rough world out there and getting a good job is vastly more important to most people than "human development". Parents don't send their kids to college to become better people, they do it to make sure they have a skill that can lead to a career so they can survive on their own. Only the rich have the luxury of being concerned about something other than a job.
mmm I see.
Looks like the site's having some issues right now. Using some of the search criteria redirects me to https://millionshort.com/500
> Is it just impossible to stay out of the issue[...]?

Yes, it's impossible to stay out of this issue. It's impossible to stay out of most issues. Certainly the ones that affect ourselves and our colleagues in everyday life.

You don't have a moral obligation to throw yourself into "the fight" on one side or another, but you do have a moral obligation to consider the impact of your behavior. If you were to witness a coworker being discriminated against, silence is not the same as ignorance.

To keep your head down and not get involved is going to favor one sides' agenda. If you want to do that, it's your right, but you should own that. We all have the capacity to get involved at whatever level we happen to be on. In our social circles, in our companies or in the public discourse. By interacting with those spheres, by choosing what we mention and acknowledge and consider we push on one side or the other.

It's fine to not be, "in the streets," but it's not fine to pretend these issues have nothing to do with you.

Edit: I've read some accounts suggesting people ask their parents what they were doing during the civil rights movements of the 1960s. People might have protested, they might have been appalled from afar. They might have thought it was much to do about nothing. Ten years from now, how would you explain how you felt today at a cocktail party? However you see it, I think we all have a responsibility to decide and not simply drift through society.
This makes it sound like WordPress.com is doing something underhanded, stealing the name or tricking users etc. However as far as I can tell WordPress.com has licensed the name from the WordPress foundation, so its legit. Endorsed even!
>I maintain that when I go to work, I go to work, and not to a debate club. Some people at Google reacted by saying “well if he’s so wrong, then why not refute him,” but that requires spending a significant amount of time building an argument against the claims in his document. On the other hand, if I remain silent, that silence could be mistaken for agreement. I should not be forced into that kind of debate at work.

Anyone else see the hypocrisy here?

>the takeaway from the memo is literally that the onus is on me to prove to men in tech that I’m not an “average” woman

That's not the takeaway I got. What I got from it was 'Google's hiring practices are counterproductive and will increase people's questioning of each other's capabilities, based on their gender'.

Talk about changing the narrative and shooting the messenger.
Are you saying that we should ignore companies that act badly?
I am not really sure I agree. At least in my part of CS in the united states arxiv/google scholar are pretty omnipresent. Thank you for pointing me towards a new resource.
If literally no one in the world bothers to keep a piece of content, not even archive organizations, what do you suppose could possibly work?
Yeah of all SaaS-and-OSS linked projects, Wordpress strikes me as incredibly innoffensive. This is like getting mad at Canonical for owning Ubuntu.com and selling addon services and support contracts.
Stop eating anything grown in the US or under the domain of corporate farming, anything grown with chemical (Monsanto/Bayer) pesticides, and look for as much communally, organic grown food as you can. Why has IBS exploded in recent decades? Miracle grow for cancer is literally being added to the food supply.
It certainly doesn't help that the writing is bad, the layout is bad, the communication is... bad. The very first thing any typical English-speaking reader is going to read doesn't even make sense. The entire paragraph is:

> The domain ending .com is not optional as it is usually—it is a key differentiator.

Which means nothing at all. It has insufficient context to carry any meaning to anyone of any technical level without major guessing and assumptions on the part of the reader.

And by that point, they've lost basically anyone that might benefit from this...
30 percent of children in San Francisco attend private schools — the highest rate of private-school attendance in California, and the third-highest in the nation
What was the most fundamental problem they/you solved and why was it difficult?
Sure, honest answer. First off, saying 70% nurses are women does not indicate discrimination. Plenty of the jobs I've applied for as a woman are small startups with over 70% men but I've never thought that this was due to discrimination. We're talking here about a policy that Google engages in voluntarily.

So we know that according to the memo that Google seeks to reduce the number of "false negative" rejections of diversity candidates by paying more attention to those applications. This could be to help counteract discrimination that occurs during the process. This ends up with about 20% qualified women in these positions.

There is nothing here to indicate that the bar is being lowered (the interview process is just as grueling) or that 50-50 is the aim. But if men were being discriminated at when trying to get these nurses jobs, I'd have no problem whatsoever with the respective companies trying to reduce the number of false negatives during the hiring process. Or even just trying to hire more men to create an environment of more diversity among nurses. Those men who are hired there are still there because they want the job and are qualified to do it.

The problem with the biological argument is that historically it hasn't been used to say that "women are not inclined to do x,y,z" but rather "women are not suited to do it". So if there was a historical parallel with nursing and men and people in the past did not think they were capable of doing this job - I'd say people should be more sensitive about what they say in the work environment in our modern day.

A - Generally no, but if the memo was broadcast to the whole company and touched on this points due to the reasons expressed above - I think its ok for the company to take action in the way it deems appropriate.

B - Could be, if that was the prevailing belief system. Realistically though, its not a true parallel because I don't think many people believe that men are not capable of being nurses.

C - Not sure what this means. Whether they are biological factors or social ones should not be something thats asserted by a company. That's going into way too grey territory imo.
> Now imagine being an outlier due to your biology in a way that's impossible to conceal.

Who said I was concealing anything?
pavlov's account was created 3130 days ago; that's 8.5 years. BartSam's account was created 37 days ago.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Wasn't it posted on a board Google specifically set up for posts like this?
> And a lot people are ignoring the context, instead pulling straw men out of the text to fight,

If its pulled out of the text, it's (by definition) not a straw man.
Oh of course. Rebuild the entire distro twice. Didn't think of that :)
Meta-x = x about x. E.g. meta-theory is a theory about theories, not a theory about itself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta

(Douglas Hofstdadter made a career of cheerfully pointing out that a theory about theories must include itself as the kind of theories it is about -- "I am a strange loop" and all that. But still, what the language means is that.)
Several search engines have had issues today, I haven't heard anything about a root cause though.

http://downdetector.com/status/bing
Great tool, this is an area I've been looking forward to more automation in.

I might have missed it on the website, how does pricing work?

Also, do you have any integrations with other tools like Intercom or Zendesk to ease data-sharing? A monthly insights report generated directly off of my main customer support tool can replace hours of manual work.
Interesting. She echoes exactly the sentiment I've expressed to my female SWE friend:
If she wants to be good she needs to study and work on her spare time.

I tell her that it takes a special kind of antisocial person who chooses to spend their Saturday reading the dragon book. If she doesn't do the same, she will fall behind.
> The private school system in Australia saves the government money. Per student funding in the private system is lower than per student funding in the public system. This money is then available to spend more on government schools.

Isn't this selection bias again? More difficult (expensive) students may get shunted into the public system.
Just so you know, I did go through your comment history far enough to make my own assessment of your intelligence.

You had thoughtful comments about women in tech, crypto currency, and some others I liked as well.

We share a lot of the same opinions, I just want to make sure we are not proving the ammo for the next Dr.Gobells.
Say someone recently had a colonoscopy and the doctor told them they had hemorrhoids.
- - Fast compilation

- In return, you spend more time debugging since there are no interesting static guarantees.

I spend almost no time debugging my Go code... It generally either works correctly, or fails to compile... and in the cases where it doesn't work correctly, I'd prefer to have a test that makes it obvious what went wrong, and then make the test pass.

- - Great tooling

- Not familiar enough to comment on this one.

Go's tooling is one of the reasons I use it, esp. the very strict formatting style

- - Good std lib

- I can't take Go's stdlib seriously with the way they handle errors.

I prefer the way Go handles errors, cause it makes it so all control flow is visible by default.

- - Easy learning curve

- Despite using it for a year I still have to google Go's syntax and semantics daily. By far the least consistent and hardest to learn general purpose language I have touched.

I'd seriously question this, I was competent in the language after about a week, meaning at the point of just having to look up package specific stuff. Granted, I have a lot of background in C family languages, but still...

- - Good concurrency model

- This is literally just wrong. How can you claim to be serious about concurrency when you have no concept of immutability in your language?

Share memory by communicating, don't communicate by sharing memory. Yes, it's completely different from what most people are used to, but it's a valid paradigm. I'd go look up "communicating sequential processes" and do some reading if I were you.
> How saintly of you to never have such a lurid thought.

I have lots of lurid thoughts. I also have enough respect and self control to not blurt them out. I've managed to interact with many women without overtly showing that I find them sexually appealing. Remarkable in this age of entitlement, isn't it?
There are so many anecdotes floating around, both for and against Damore, which attempt to extrapolate the entire female condition from a handful of experiences. But it's hard to tell whether these anecdotes are representative or non-representative of most women - where do these anecdotes fall on the distribution?

I think a useful question here is, where am I on the distribution? Do I and my peers represent the average or the tail?
I used it in the US for $30 for two years with my wife and we were quite happy with it. We went about 4 times a week, not all theatres were supported, and their mandatory webapp sucked big time, esp. their GPS location tracker. I often had to walk around 100m until the app let me get the ticket.

Other than that a good deal. More people should go to the theatres.
> bitter about some company you can just choose to ignore

This is not about some product you buy, or some service you pay for, it's about sharing the road, and whether the other people/entities on the road with you operating multiple thousand pound machines at 24-65 Mph have a legal right to be there and are safe. That's not something you can necessarily "ignore" without consequence.
Instead of looking for books, these days I try to keep an eye on publishers more. Consistent quality books tends to come out of the same publisher, and it's really easy to follow just a few.

Also by following publishers you can be more efficiently connected "upstream" to the flows of knowledge.

Most of the University Press's are pretty good, I was at Cambridge University Press Bookshop earlier today in the U.K. and it was amazing seeing their whole catalog.

Other good presses are:

- anything by MIT Press

- Princeton and Duke Press

- Polity Press if you're interested in sociology
> The other companies won't have as many high quality women because Google scouted and hired them already, but will have just as many low and medium quality women who aren't good enough for Google, and more high quality men who were displaced from Google. Which skews the gender ratio even more and creates the impression that women at those companies are lower quality than the men there or else they would have been hired away by Google -- because it causes that impression to be the truth.

At some point people are going to have to start presenting evidence to back up these sorts of fanciful claims. I've heard lots and lots of wild claims about how industry practices are being harmed and absolutely zero evidence.

You can make up all sorts of stories based on your preferred biases. You can claim that Google hiring many high quality women forces other firms to hire low-quality women and high-quality men. I can claim that Google hiring many high quality women actually attracts more high-quality women to the industry raising the quality of the talent pool across the board.

Both of these claims are completely baseless. There is zero evidence either way. Like the memo itself which made all sorts of wild and extraordinary claims these claims should be recognized for what they are: unsupported agenda pushing and not valid argument.
Nothing starts your day quite like a 3:00AM call to come in and resolve an "Abend - S0C7".

In the Production Control Center (liason between operations and the programming organizations), we loved S0C7s because they were pretty much always program errors rather than difficult-to-diagnose hardware issues.
What reasoning does Damore have to lie?
> Damore points to studies showing that, e.g. women are more agreeable and more people-oriented. From that, he concludes women on average are less likely to prefer programming.

That's Diekman 2010:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20631322

"Although women have nearly attained equality with men in several formerly male-dominated fields, they remain underrepresented in the fields of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM). We argue that one important reason for this discrepancy is that STEM careers are perceived as less likely than careers in other fields to fulfill communal goals (e.g., working with or helping other people). Such perceptions might disproportionately affect women's career decisions, because women tend to endorse communal goals more than men. As predicted, we found that STEM careers, relative to other careers, were perceived to impede communal goals. Moreover, communal-goal endorsement negatively predicted interest in STEM careers, even when controlling for past experience and self-efficacy in science and mathematics."
> commonly it's implied that "if you walk away from the debate therefore you are wrong", which is fallacious. Nobody owes you a debate.

You might be wrong, you might be right, either way that does mean forfeiting the debate. It's like folding in poker -- yeah, you might have great cards, but you folded, and nobody owes you any of the money on the table.

> Then the initial argument needs to start from a place of "intellectual honesty".

Uhm, no. Might as well say assuming a 50/50 ratio to be free of bias is not intellectually honest, so "they started it". And then those could in turn point to someone else, and so on.
> Otherwise it's just more resilient (a good thing), but not permanent.

It's not "just" more resilient, It's also much more elegant and convenient: with the current web you need to go find some archive version of the dead link you found, while with IPFS the link can simply work, even after the creator stops hosting it.
Dr Bronwyn Tarr: How to live a happy life
> I don't take Elon as a person to lie

But we all know he will exaggerate to the point of being misleading.
Hm, I'm East of Toronto and thought my small town library was closed Sunday and Monday... just checked - no, open 7 days a week. Pleasantly surprised.

The small, small, small town north of here though is closed on Sunday.
Beholder: Visualizing arbitrary tensors in a video as your network trains
This Trello client for Roku make your TV into a Kanban board
You certainly can control someone by offering them sex - it's a well understood and successful tool used in espionage.
>If the intersection is poorly designed/timed, why would it be implausible to happen to catch human drivers make the same mistake?

Unless they had already pulled the self driving cars, which the timeline presented suggests they haven't, why would that data be important enough to text back without the corresponding number of Uber violations?
It's a common sarcastic term hurled at things like "inclusive CS".

For all I know this iteration of "inclusive" could be the Right Stuff -- proper intellectual discipline even as it advances secondary goals of "inclusiveness". But stiiill... she should have by now had the common courtesy of producing a short document aimed at experts, possibly prepared by her underlings. This would also have helped the career of the underlings.
Do these numbers seem implausible to anyone else? A billion trees in two years is 1.3 million trees per day. 57,000 trees per hour, non-stop for 24 hours per day. Seems unlikely.
I tend to make use of lots of datasets on my machines, including in and under /var (e.g., /var, /var/backups, /var/cache, /var/log, /var/mail, /var/spool, /var/tmp, and probably a few others I'm forgetting) and some hosts have multiple pools as well.

I never had any issues with this on FreeBSD. Linux, however, was another story. Installation would go smoothly and without incident but I'd run into issues immediately upon first boot. I spent many hours trying to figure out what/where the problem was and it turned out to be race conditions with systemd and filesystems/partitions being mounted. (At the time, I had a few years experience with ZFS and had installed who-knows-how-many servers using ZFS exclusively, yet I had never had any issues with this. Of course, none of those servers were infected by systemd either.)

Now that I'm aware of the issues I can work around them. If you just want a single pool on a single disk and a minimal number of datasets, you'll probably be fine -- you're right, that's a cinch to set up. Like I said, however, don't be surprised if you have problems when trying to do anything more complicated than that.
The onus is on you to disprove them, they made no irrational claims. If you have some problem with any of their concepts, say so.

Your attack on whether his comment is 'thoughtful' or not is weak.
Arguably the most important of the Jedi mind tricks: to install a gatekeeper wherever you know one is needed. Having one watching this hot/cold dial is important I recon. Knowing you can do this and that you have a choice about how you feel while thinking is something that ought to be taught.
It better be, my first class for the fall semester starts in a week!