skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Though if you read the memo carefully, Damore doesn't actually make the claim that Google lowers the bar for women in the sense that they hire women who are less capable. His complaint is that Google lowers the bar in the sense of reducing the number of "false negative" rejections of diversity candidates by paying more attention to those applications. He was calling for an end to this practice not because it was allowing unqualified people to be hired, but simply because he feels that the special treatment is unfair.
Edith is on point.
> One problem with encouraging a culture of "free speech doesn't matter if you're a company" is that the type of speech that requires the most defence is the most unpopular kind, which means you can end up with all the offensive or challenging material lumped under one or two providers ... who are then vulnerable to other forms of attack by people who wish to crush speech they disagree with. It's really a lot more robust if everyone agrees that "I disagree with what you have to say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it".

I totally agree. I wasn't encouraging that attitude per se, but rather pointing out that free speech protections as they are implemented in the US protect the rights of private individuals/corporations to take either attitude towards the speech of others. And FWIW I can't really envision an alternate implementation that insures people abide by the robust interpretation of the value of free speech - at a certain point it falls to the public to continue to embrace free speech as a positive value.
Considering women make up >50% of college graduates, for every profession that has more men there are more profession that have more women (or a greater imbalance).

How about:

People are capable of choosing professions they like. Respect their choices and don't second guess them.
What has this got to do with Rust? Nothing. He could have called any C library and it would have been exactly the same. I am pretty sure there is a crypto library or two written in C.

He is just writing a more direct manual version of CGo in assembly that bypasses a lot of what CGo does, to be much faster.

> Before anyone tries to compare this to cgo

The only meaningful message in this blog is it possible to write a faster CGo, that's it. Comparing it to CGo is the only useful possible outcome, but...

> But to be clear, rustgo is not a real thing that you should use in production. For example, I suspect I should be saving g before the jump, the stack size is completely arbitrary, and shrinking the trampoline frame like that will probably confuse the hell out of debuggers. Also, a panic in Rust might get weird.

So when you actually fix all those things you might be back where CGo was at the beginning.

This guy comes across as a classic "but i wanna be cool" hacker who discovers that when you bypass all the normal protections in a library and make some kind of direct custom call, things can be faster.

I guess so what?
Maybe we're talking past each other here. I don't think the author has a problem with the science James referenced. The science behind the core issues is fine. No argument there. The author has a problem with James' interpretation of the science, and his speculation and arguments he makes based on this flawed interpretation.

You've probably read http://quillette.com/2017/08/07/google-memo-four-scientists-...

David P Schmitt, the only one whose work was used in the memo doesn't seem agree with the memo. His third and fourth paragraphs say that any differences between sexes is small and not relevant to work going on at google. This is a common theme with the memo. The science is correct. But James goes beyond what the science says and adds incorrect arguments and statements on top. This is the problem. And it is the kind of thing that can get you labeled as sexist or whatever.

As I go through the links, each is used to directly refute one of these incorrect additions to the science that James wrote. They don't refute the science, they refute James' added commentary.

In 'Early androgen exposure and human gender development' there is a section titled "Which human behaviors show average sex differences?" and it is very pertinent to this topic.

Lots of people have been bringing up the Androgen Exposure argument in this debate, and the second Androgen study linked was showing it is not a solved question yet. So that was also relevant.

The Human health and population growth studies were used to refute James's statements that were quoted. Etc.

I'll happily agree that the author shouldn't have used certain terms or phrases. That was unneeded and unprofessional.
I am someone who lives with a wife and a kid in the Bay Area. I lived in single income for a year (was making around 150K as well). I had a small single family home in East Bay, which I bought at around 600K. Had a tough commute to the peninsula. It is doable, if you are ready to live in East Bay - Fremont, Union City, Dublin, Livermore etc. A job in the City proper is actually better as you can take the BART.

No one mentions the upside of living in the Bay Area:
1. My pay doubled as the stock market reached new highs in 3 years
2. My wife got a job in the 120K range
3. We sold our home and made 200K profit from it

In 3 years, we secured an extremely comfortable life, with money in the bank, great experience, in a booming job market, a large house and with all the amenities of living in the Bay Area.

If I am in your position, I would think where I would be in 3-5 years time.
What's the most relevant one, in your opinion?
Now that you mention it, I definitely got the comparison from that article. Should've credited it!
I was able to patch together around 2 years of paid development experience by the time I graduated college from various internships. I think it helped a lot in getting my first "real" position. If you're still in school I strongly recommend taking this route as entry level positions themselves are pretty hard to find.
After a bachelor degree, university isn't that useful for CS unless you want to get into serious AI research. I don't think it has much effect on salary or opportunities.
Mailpile (webmail + encryption + privacy) 1.0rc1 released
You are again derailing the conversation by bringing up government actions, which are explicitly different than companies having the freedom to choose who they wish to do business with. Stick to the topic at hand! Companies cannot be forced to offer domain name registration services to Nazis if they do not want to. Forcing them to is a greater violation of liberty than allowing them the choice not to associate with Nazis.
Do you remember any text fragment? I can grep for it.

Either that or you can spend an hour clicking :) :

http://reocities.com/southbeach/lounge/
> [W]hen I go to work, I go to work, and not to a debate club.

Sure. But people on the wrong side of the Google monoculture feel like they have to be closeted at work. They don't want to feel that way either. There has to be a way for everyone to be professional and honest here.
I guess HTTPS stood for HTTP Server.
The Economist really nails it imo. Pointing to some random stats that support your hypothesis, ignoring others, and speculating the significance of said stats is not science - it's motivated reasoning.

https://www.economist.com/news/21726276-last-week-paper-said...
I logged in just so I could tell the parent commenter off... Then I got distracted writing up a reply to someone about the Damore memo, which referenced how 'conservatives' seem obsessed with biology and base all their nonsense on a simplistic understanding of such. And now this guy....

I have higher than average testosterone levels, always have, and I'm 48 now. And I wouldn't do something this stupid - it is all about context. And understanding how women operate (duh).

If someone messaged me asking for tech related advice, I'd freely give it and not try to do something out of the psychosocial boundary lines. If the interaction develops, then you and her are starting a relationship (generic use of the word). Time goes on, you meet at some conference etc... then you can appropriately gauge what your chances are and possibly will have more of a chance b/c 1) you have shown you're not an idiot and 2) women control the personal sphere of life - they grok relationships better. Play by their rules (ish, sort of) and things go much better.

Dumbasses don't understand the dance that goes on. This guy's behavior is exactly equivalent to asking every woman at a bar if they want to fuck. The ones who say yes are the ones more likely to have daddy issues etc and no one in their right mind deliberately goes down that road except for douchebags
Haha - my friends dad also did MechE in the 80s. He says MechE students now are responsible for learning much more material.

I'd say the internet has allowed more material to be taught in four years.
> I feel like some very unreasonable thing are being said in a reasonable/polished way.

That's a decent description of Damore's memo.

> I would think hostility would require some form of visible action.

Nope. My dad's tech workplace in the '70s was hostile to black people even though there was almost no visible action.

> Isn't the whole point of science is to move the debate away from opinion to fact.

Yes, but cherry-picking results and selectively quoting articles isn't rigorous science. There is a long history of misusing science to promote preconceived agendas (tobacco industry, new age quantum garbage, eugenics, etc).

I apologize, I just can't understand the last half of your post. It sounds like you're saying the women who wrote this article are part of a powerful in-group-alliance?
Texts between Levandowski and Kalanick
From a Stripe developer perspective this sounds like a really clean way to handle API versioning.

From a consumer of Stripe's API's perspective, doesn't this make debugging or modifying legacy code a real pain? Let's say I'm using Stripe.js API's from a few years ago; where do I go to find the docs for that version? Do I need to look at the API change log and work backwards?
First, a summary: There are differences between men and women. There are also barriers to entry into tech for women. Let's try to fix those, and keep trying, without necessarily expecting that we'll have 50% of engineers being women when we've finally fixed (all) the barriers.

And one detailed opinion:

On Edith's reply to "What do you disagree with or find objectionable?": She complained about having to wonder whether people she encountered on the job felt that she was qualified. I suspect that quite a few male Google employees actually feel the same fear (call it imposter syndrome). The question to me is, does she feel the same fear as men and wonder if, in her case, it's because she's female? Or does she feel additional fear because of being female? (I don't know, and I'm not going to guess. I merely observe that, if you remove the male/female aspects, what she said sounds a lot like how people describe imposter syndrome.)
>You don't get to determine how people receive a message. You
>can only take care to send it in a way that would be
>received well. If everyone in a large and diverse group >
>receives the message poorly, the problem is not with the
>group.
>If you're worried about an angry mob firing you, start
>communicating with care.

This is absolutely false I do get to tell the group how to receive the message. When a group is intolerant the problem is with the group. When people were against interracial marriage and intolerant of other opinions the problem was with the group. When people were against African Americans riding in the front of the bus, the problem was with the intolerant group.

No candy coating, sensitivity training, or messaging was required to tell the angry, intolerant mob that they were wrong, just like they are here.
The irony is a car with LIDAR on it won't sell, it looks ugly and too foreign. Tesla is designing with asthetics in mind.
There's a slight difference between technical flamewars, pointed debates about expanding the amount of bathrooms available per building and Damore's post. If you can't see the difference, honestly I can't help you.
Scifi, but set in post revolution to modern times: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three-Body_Problem
I really liked it, couldn't put it down. Favorite part is the creation of sophons.
Interesting, thanks for the comment, actually I started reading on this because of 23andMe as well and I'm on the opposite spectrum, which means coffee doesn't affect me much, the same can't be said of my partner who has like you also quit btw.
CSS is a perfectly way to design a web site using zero JavaScript. Source : I do web dev etc.
> Without the Physics

Well, is there much "physics" in (theoretical) quantum physics anyway? It's pretty much all math - just like in this paper!
http://archiveteam.org/index.php?title=The_WARC_Ecosystem
https://heterodoxacademy.org/2017/08/10/the-google-memo-what... seems to be attempting to dig into the relevant science.
How (and Why) to Avoid Hiring That Terrible Google Dudebro
You should be able to make $120k+ as a senior engineer in any of the top 5-10 markets. For example, look at Chicago if you'd like to stay near where you currently live and still have a reasonable cost of living.

There's no way I would stay in SF if I had children. Maybe south bay, but even then you're still looking at spending $4k / month on a 3 bedroom house.
If I had been passed over for promotion or denied an internal transfer I was well qualified for, especially if I had gotten good performance reviews, I'd certainly be looking to have a judge subpoena those lists. That those managers felt so bold as to brag about it indicates that most of them are at it, or that they have tacit support from HR. And if I wasn't on one of the lists revealed, then we'd have to keep digging, or suspect someone had destroyed the evidence.
> he did talk a lot about preference and job satisfaction

You don't think those two things are predictors for job performance?
Luck doesn't reduce skill, it alters opportunity.
That's one message to take from it. What I was trying to do though was give another historical example where good leadership made all the difference to a team (army) outcome.
Ezra Klein argued[1] that this is really a fear of the opaque power that software has in our lives. We know that software and algorithms run the world, and that only a few people will ever even see the algorithms, let alone understand them afterwards, and yet they determine so much of the world around us. This leads everyone to fear that the wrong sort of people (for whatever definition of "wrong" you hold) are putting their thumb into the algorithm.

This is why math and physics aren't getting the same level of attention. They don't decide what news articles get viewed and what don't. They don't decide what companies can advertise to customers and what companies are beyond the pale, etc.

[1]: https://www.vox.com/new-money/2017/8/10/16119338/google-dive...
What if you think the issues you are bringing up are already a problem for the company, and the company just isn't willing to admit it?
USA Army Seeks to Create a Internet of Distributed Bot Swarms
If you're poor, you might have a limited data plan. In which case, you probably make use of public WiFi all the time to reduce your usage of your limited data plan, which should be reserved for when you need it on the side of the road or when you're running late to a job interview.

Using an old android device to browse the internet is browsing as a second-class citizen. When I job hunt, I open many documents, hundreds of tabs, visit hundreds of websites... all of this would be greatly hindered by a mobile device.

Have you been to a low income library where people are not using the computers? My previous neighborhood's library computers were being used almost all the time when I went there.

> even the poor have their own computers and smartphones these days

I'm curious what you've read that informs this opinion. The digital divide still exists, especially in rural areas but in general across socioeconomic class.

https://www.ntia.doc.gov/blog/2016/state-urbanrural-digital-...
Oh here is more .....

http://spectrum.ieee.org/cars-that-think/transportation/self...

Total disregard for the potential harm of human life .. it's all about winning the self driving car race.
This was submitted and discussed at length four or five months ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13977554

There were another 8 comments here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14031057

But it's a popular article, and obviously resonates with the HN community. Lone wolf proves outstanding conjecture, publishes in a non-traditional manner, gets ignored. It's a good story.

Here are some other submissions from other sources:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14472592

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14201675

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14036226

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14030500

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14027972
Yes the HoloLens uses IR to map it's environment, however if you move to an area that has a window it throws a caniption fit.
So then surely we need some measures to prevent discrimination against those lacking in non-cognitive skills?
> for example, the Jewish people and the Islamic people at a company to work together.

But you wouldn't expect a Muslin to work with an Jew who had decided to share a memo internally about how she thinks Muslims aren't actually, on average, as well suited for positions at their company and are only present in the percentages they are due to a lower bar to entrance based on their "diversity" quota.

At which point any reasonable Muslim would think, "What the fuck. So I'm just a diversity hire? I don't deserve my spot here? You don't think, on average, people like me can do this job as people like you?"

Understandably that sounds like a damn hostile environment to put someone in. In the case of sex, it's a lawsuit waiting to happen.

I know I certainly wouldn't be comfortable working with him in a professional capacity. I would feel like I was being judged every moment to see if I deserved my spot here and that the baseline assumption was no, I don't.
At one point, Google, you had a preferred messaging position on my devices.

For me, from my perspective, you pissed it away.

"Bye-bye"
I think the easiest way is to explicitly call out possible arguments and get your opinion out in front. E.g "Some might say this gives me a lackadaisical attitude towards the lives of others. Conversely I have nothing but the utmost respect for the lives of others and am concerned with the well being of others"

It's not a perfect example but it's an easy way to show that you are thinking about other people and what they might be thinking. You can combine this with an invitation for people to voice their opinions. People like knowing that their opinion is valuable especially when your assertions put the reader at odds with their own opinions.

Just a few things I've found help internet discussions. People read things with different voices and diffferent inflections so it's important to be explicit when possible, especially on a subject that is truly difficult to discuss in polite company.
On pages 3 and 4 he claims that these differences exist (emphasis added):

- On average, men and women biologically differ in many ways. ...the distribution of PREFERENCES and ABILITIES of men
and women differ in part due to biological causes and that these differences may explain why
we don’t see equal representation of women in tech and leadership.

- Women, on average, have more: Openness directed towards feelings and aesthetics rather than ideas. Women generally also have a stronger interest in people rather than things, relative to men

- These two differences in part explain why women relatively prefer jobs in social or artistic areas. More men may like coding because it requires systemizing and even within SWEs, comparatively more women work on front end, which deals with both people and aesthetics.

- Women, on average, have more: Neuroticism (higher anxiety, lower stress tolerance).

- This may contribute to the higher levels of anxiety women report on Googlegeist and to the lower number of women in high stress jobs.

And later proposes these solutions:

- We can make software engineering more people-oriented with pair programming
and more collaboration.

- Make tech and leadership less stressful.

So he has 1) cited biological differences between men and women in their abilities (not simply preferences) and 2) claimed that these lead to suitability for different jobs and also indicated the specific jobs would need to be changed in order to be more suitable for women, which strongly implies differing performance levels.
Badly veiled advertisement.
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Do you see what you are implying about your female colleagues?
CSP still applies, you can apply restrictions by path and hostname. Or am I missing your meaning?
Did he?

If someone approached this problem with a blank slated, looked at the evidence, formed an opinion, then wrote something to back their opinion, how could you tell them apart from someone who had an opinion and applied science to just advance their opinion? Assume both are average, and thus imperfect, writers.
Levandowski: Yo! I'm back at 80%, super pumped... we've got to start calling Elon on his shit. I'm not on social media but let's start "faketesla" and start give physics lessons about stupid shit Elon says like this

Levandowski might not have too many friends in Silicon valley after this ordeal
Did the memo piss them off, or did a non-existent "Sexist manifesto" created by click-bait sites piss them off?
First off, nobody in tech, male or female is really "average". Second, everybody must prove they're good at their job by doing it well. But to suggest that there is absolutely no correlation that makes men or women disproportionately want to work in certain fields or have a higher aptitude to certain roles is a bit premature.

The vitriol and disdain in response by some from the original memo, completely discounting some of the reservations on opinion vs fact and presenting them as only a footnote is somewhat disingenuous.
I wish there was a way to just tell search engines whether your content should be treated as part of the parent subdomain or not for SEO purposes.

That way you'd keep the XSS protections of CSP, while still not breaking things like github pages or a zillion other subdomain hosted services.
OK, define "male".

Is it chromosomal, such that XY makes you male? Wrong. People with total androgen insensitivity are XY but look and act and feel female, because the androgens they produce never took effect. Their bodies and minds feminized, so they're female in every respect except their karyotype.

There's a ton of other conditions which make the definition of sex complex. Read this essay, which lists a lot more of them: http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Essays/marriage.html

Your simple definition is only simple because you punted the complex part, and no amount of screaming about how words don't have meanings anymore is going to change the level of complexity surrounding this subject.

You are too ignorant to know what you don't know, so you think you're a goddamned expert.
Docker is just regular processes limited by a bunch of Linux kernel isolation mechanisms, which means that you're subject to potential kernel exploits, which would allow a "neighbor" container to run code outside the container and then control your own.

There are some ways of mitigating this, but the simplest one would be for the provider to run a VM for each container, then you get the security guarantees of regular VMs (though you still have to trust the provider to keep the OS up to date).
You say it better than I do. Agreed it's an extreme selection bias, just want to point out that it's slightly different than the one de Boer seemed to be pointing out.
what else does tv news have left to sell?