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>only Palantir can maintain their systems, tossing around how many millions of license plates it can store, complaining about how it doesn't operate well with other systems...this reads like a hit piece

Those actually sound like completely valid concerns when considering whether Palantir should be offered a concession.

Even better is to consider whether this concession should be offered in the first place in a supposedly free country.
> No one ever sees the history, honestly.

Then you wouldn't see value in rewriting. Unless you're not reading the history because it's a pain to read because it's messy.

I use `git blame` relatively frequently to understand the rationale and history behind the code I'm working on, or to track down bugs. Of course, this also requires writing decent commit messages---something that I encourage developers to do so that those maintaining their code in the future have some direction. Commit messages are a bit different than software documentation, not a substitute.

I bisect looking for bugs, where a clean history with small commits _that actually build_ is essential to quickly finding a bug. That can even be automated if you can create a script that can run a test suite or some other test to check for success.

This becomes increasingly important the more code and complexity you're dealing with. There are other cases where I look at history, but those are significant examples.
Oh. The lease terms are crappy for the buyer as well. So, yes, funny in that Lyft would benefit in that scenario. The driver certainly doesn't though.
Pay attention to the PDF's page 6 footnote (https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3914586/Googles-I...)

" Instead set Googlegeist OKRs, potentially for certain demographics. We can increase representation at an org level by either making it a better environment for certain groups (which would be seen in survey scores) or discriminating based on a protected status (which is illegal and I’ve seen it done). Increased representation OKRs can incentivize the latter and create zero-sum struggles between orgs."

....discriminating based on a protected status (which is illegal and I’ve seen it done).....

If that's true, then he could bolster the case with Department of Labor - which directly has to do with the claims that Google is paying women engineers much less than their male counterparts.

This is going to get ugly, and fast. (err, wait, it already has)
> No, his "plan" was to have a discussion.

Well, he is an excellent Chess player @ 2300 ELO. He might have had a complex plan. Which might just have been to put up the memo while Google was being investigated, not necessarily to benefit from getting fired.
This sort of situation is why open forums for employees can be a bad idea. If you encourage open speech and emotionally knee-jerk against it, you will have a problem.

The smart move here would have been to cool down, wait for the news cycle to move on to Trump's next gaffe and fire the guy later for misreporting PTO, poor performance or some other objective act if his behavior was truly disruptive. Now they have created a martyr and attracted a lot of attention... so the wackjob right-winger types will be on this like white on rice.
I see the damage he is doing, but he's bringing to light the speed at which some people (e.g. google and you) will try to censor any discussion on this topic, so it isn't obvious to me that he has done more harm than good.
>>establish monopoly then protect it by any means necessary

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No one ever sees the history?

Really ? To me the need for checking history is extremely common. Many projects have multiple delivery, maintenance and other branches, patches need to be applied here and there. Bugs are found and the versions affected needs to be identified.

Not maintaining a clean history would cause severe pain.
The implication of his thoughts was that they were just as qualified but too scarce. This seems to be the position of Google HR as well.
He didn't cause any damage. People deliberately misinterpreting what he wrote caused damage.
> it appears this view is far from ubiquitous.

So for you, validity of views has corelation with how many people hold it? I guess we can call that absurdity and stop?
It was pretty clear what he was dogwhistling though. Just because he didn't come out and point blank say "The girls can't code" doesn't mean that wasn't his meaning.
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I vastly prefer rebasing and squashing. Just yesterday I had to review some history, and reading the blames was incredibly frustrating.

> Clean up style

What was this code committed with? What other changes came along with it.

Git, for me, has 2 functions. When I'm developing, it's to save my work in an incremental way that I can reverse. It's to make notes about what I'm doing. After I'm done, it serves as a way to lay blame on me for what I changed and to track those changes in Github. "Who wrote this? What was it committed with?"

I want my PR to be encapsulated in 1 commit after it's been merged. At that point, there is no reason to read the internals of what I changed.
you know what "correct horse battery stable" is now one of the popular passwords, just like "qwerty".
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memo wasn't damning per se, but it's a controversial topic to say the least, whichever side you're on.

he was basically playing roulette politics in the wrong setting.
I believe the word you want there is "ulterior" not interior, my friend. Carry on.
The top story on HN is currently on this topic, and so are 2 to 3 more. We don't want all 30 to be on this topic.
[Most] credit card bloggers like The Points Guy are shills, don't listen to them. They make their money from affiliate marketing so they'll pimp the cards that make them the most (like Chase cards) and ignore deals that are good for you but bad for them. The Points Guy's website is owned by Bankrate.

Here's him getting called out on Reddit for some practices: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/471yey/im_the_points_...

The Points Guy and other credit card bloggers are like the people who hold "I Will Teach You To Get Rich" seminars at the Holiday Inn. He never answered when asked how much his salary he makes from his blog is but it's reported to be 7 figures.

This is not the golden age, it's pretty mainstream. Card issues are cracking down on gamers. AMEX just started putting terms about gaming in their application. Citi merged limits on sign up bonuses across their cards. Chase doesn't even approve you if you've opened too many credit cards in the last 24 months (5) and has long called out gaming as against their T&C.

Even if you get a million miles it's a chore to redeem them for something worthwhile. You also have to worry about keeping them from expiring.

I still collect points and miles but don't kid yourself that it's not a commitment. Most people who are serious in the miles/points game go out buying gift cards and then using ever closing loopholes to liquidate the gift cards. It's just crazy some of the time, money, and effort people put into it. Might as well get a part time job at that point.

Personally, in two years, between credit cards and bank accounts I've gotten $6,000 in realized worth (that is redeemed) and at least as much in unrealized worth. I've got my first rejection a few weeks ago.

This is a credit card blog that is independent, the only blog I look at: https://www.doctorofcredit.com
> Reporting that those condemnations occurred (they did) isn't an implicit validation

If 9/11, Iraq and WMDs have taught us anything, it is that repeating a lie enough times makes it true.

This is repeating the lie. Sure. It's done by reference only, and not directly, but it's still a repetition.
> We all know what he meant

Having your mistake corrected can be educational even when you were understood. In the future, inanother context, the same mistake could result in confusion.
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Which is something you can justify IMO for a direct, just, free, equal and confidential election.
Do you think the author of the memo, like yourself, just randomly mentioned cultural marxism but doesn't actually believe in it?

Was it a specially coded message intended only for the reasonable, middle-ground, rational people who think there's some lineage between Marxism and progressivism, but certainly not in any way intended for the racist, homophobic, anti-semitic, white nationalist, Christian supremacists who invented and popularised the terms modern usage?
Think he was trying to say that he likes neither callback hell nor promises
I'm also surprised. In Europe many know that if you work in the US the way sensible topics are handled require a very, very careful approach. I would personally never even try to raise anything like this, better it be handled by the group who is positively discriminated. If there is positive discrimination they suffer from it just as well if it goes too far. No need to correct for it as an outsider.
The same for when it's on your desktop. To be able to look into the image for additional detail. Such as where it was taken, camera specs, etc.
What exactly you mean by damage? I know this sounds like a troll question but I would like to understand what kind of effect you perceive the release of this person's memo has had and why you feel that effect was negative. I don't ask to debate, or even respond to your answer, but I would feel privileged to understand what you mean when you use that word.
Did you actually read the memo he wrote? It's not mainly about the differences between men and women, it's mainly about how you can't talk about the differences between men and women. In firing him, Google ironically proved that he was right.
Patterns are useless until they demonstrate they have predictive power.

> A pattern, apart from the term's use to mean "template",[a] is a discernible regularity in the world or in a manmade design. As such, the elements of a pattern repeat in a predictable manner

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pattern

So using a lot of text to depict such pattern while on the other hand indicating such pattern cannot generalize feels like wrestling with yourself. Did he try to prove himself that this 'on average' model is a bad model?
As a right guy, why does he fall down to the left labor laws?
Google might have set a trap on itself by aggressively pursuing "affirmative" policies. They are now being sued by both sides.
Subjective is not an allowed thought with respect to politics, see recent events at google. My suspicion is loosening STEM requirements is a reaction to tightening political belief requirements.

My point is its not so much a weakening, as its a redirection back to the traditional place of a college for indoctrination of theology.

In a community of extreme political intolerance, algebra matters very little compared to political purity.
It's more likely that most HN readers are sick of this story and know that no progress will be made by discussing it.
It was already ugly what Google is doing. He just turned the spotlight on it.

If your adversary has unlimited resources, find a bigger fish to engage them.
Because there is a progressive spin in many media outlets. Non-progressive media outlets just call it "the Google memo".
> Damore is a junior programmer who wrote a 10 page 'manifesto' accusing his colleagues of having inferior genes.

Can you cite the parts of his memo that made you believe he did that? Or did you read that "between the lines"?
> Legal experts say the case has legs, with one lawyer telling Wired that “Damore's lawyer might argue that his memo was protected under California law, because it related to allegedly unequal treatment of employees.”

Unequal treatment of employees? How ironic.

This "memo" was probably one of the more unprofessional moves I've heard about in a while.

My own feelings are that it was cretinous and stupid. The same argument has been made for hundreds of years and women keep blowing it to smithereens. It has no legs to stand on.

I hope Google wins. It seems like it could be a blow if he wins on such a specious argument.
Thats a common misconception and ignorance of western world in action. Just like they call their native Americans as Indians. And when they say "world", they really mean the North American continent. When they say immigrants, they mean third world people, and when they say expats, its first world country citizens.

These misconceptions will change once the solipsistic cloud over the western world clears out.
Do they?
Or store it in another branch - that's the approach we had been using in one company I worked at.
I think nowadays the bigger problem is that sites don't cooperate with password managers. I am trying to use 20character passwords and some sites still limit that number to 12 or 16. Also the fact that blizzard or steam doesn't use TOTP that google auth. uses pisses me off.
I was talking about this with a friend yesterday, we both came to the conclusion that he had to expect to get fired from releasing this.
He explicitly say that he values diversity. If anything it's an anti-wrongful-discrimination memo.
this is very dumb.

Facebook allows you to reconnect with old friends more easily or meet new people in person.

YouTube has some of the best resources to learn software development, math, history, and really anything for free.

There are pro's and con's for every company.
Where does it say that he was surprised?
Why use a voting machine at all? Isn't the main point of having a polling location simply so you can verify your identity? If we could come up with a system that allowed one's identity to be verified online, or by postal service, then do we really need thousands of machines collecting the votes. Couldn't it be centralized to a handful of more easily audited systems?
>Expats really get the shaft from the US gov.

And worse, while you're still entitled to vote for your representatives in the last place you lived in the US, politically, why would they even give you the time of day?

There are a lot of Americans living abroad, estimated to be 3-9 million, excluding military. Collectively more than a number of states. Yet their distribution means that Americans' voices abroad fall on deaf ears in Washington.
The theory was that he filed a complain alleging discrimination (positive), and that this firing is arguably retaliatory for that whistle-blowing, so it makes sense that he's seeking protection under that. I don't think he would have a leg to stand on otherwise, and presumably if he succeeds in this matter it will be a technical victory.
>...and are just parroting what the media said...
Now apply that further and you get an idea of how the we are conditioned to think and feel about almost every issue.
I really dislike the anti-"academic" viewpoint of this comment. It is a issue that has been solved countless times before and applying academic analyses are exactly what's needed to resolve this.

> Should working children on farms in Iowa be banned? Had it happened when I was young, half the family farms would have gone under.

probably yes. If you can't support a business without relying on child labour, it's not much of a business. I'm guessing this was around 20-40 years ago, during which time food production boomed across america and food prices plummeted. So yes, the food would have been produced regardless, you and your peers would have had more time to spend on education and the net personal and economic benefits would have been positive.

If you took the children out of the mines the cobalt would still get mined. The owners would find technology and process efficiencies to stay price competitive, if those don't exist then the price of mobile phones should go up.

These parents are no different to those in developed countries and would want what's best for their children, if they had the choice - so that safety net would get added.
I don't know, actually. I originally held the same opinion, but over the last few days I've gone down the rabbit-hole of neuroscience and social-psychological research and his points appear to have merit. The tech community is devoting a lot of time and effort to fight something that is possibly explained by lack of interest and not entrenched discrimination.

That doesn't mean discrimination doesn't exist, because I've seen it a lot - Angels and VC's assuming a pitch meeting is a date and acting that way, unacceptable behavior in the workplace and women being harassed and shut out of opportunities for advancement in tech. All these must be dealt with.

It's just the methods we're all using to end perceived discrimination might not actually be directed at the real parts of the problem. That was the whole point of his essay in the first place, I think.
It's the sharing economy.
This isn't about the progressive left, it's about the regressive left.
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> He emphasized in the article that he was talking about patterns, not individuals.

So, would "Jews tend to be greedy" or "Italians tend to be lazy" be an acceptable statement in the workplace because they target (supposed) patterns rather than individuals?

Would someone espousing those statements be reasonably assumed to give Jewish or Italian candidates a fair hearing?

After all, the memo claimed a tendency amongst women towards neuroticism.
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It's fascinating that management at google didn't speak to fact that the memo points to the very real issue in silicon valley that the culture there openly shames those who are right of center into silence. Discrimination is something both the left and the right can do, but in the current landscape, the left seems to get away with it, and are sometimes even praised for it (see virtue signaling).

This could be a wake up call, and I suspect that secretly it is for many people.
Ditto to this. I come here for the delightfully well informed discussions by some of the world's most capable technologists, scientists, and engineers. The content I usually find here genuinely enriches my life and motivates me with success stories of what smart, hardworking people are capable of producing.
It's damage if it drives good engineers out of the company. By firing him the company is attempting to reduce the damage by indicating that this memo does not represent Google nor is it even under discussion.
Actually progress is being made discussing the "ideological echo chamber". Those inside the echo chamber have a vested emotional interest to not want to discuss it because it challenges core beliefs.
So much for unbiased journalism. I guess such a thing doesn't really exist anymore.

Even The Guardian labelled it as "anti-diversity".
Then the better solution would be not up vote it at all rather than puting a flag on it that this is bullshit.
The Wall St. Journal today had a great piece about the legal challenges he'll face:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/fired-engineer-likely-to-face-o...

Though as a layman I have to say that passage makes it sound like he should be protected.
Amen, with a special F.U. to the sites that disallow special characters. What is the reason for that? (OK I might understand disallowing some uncommon chars but $%(^ etc shouldn't be disallowed)
It isn't the hill that engineers choose to fight their battle though, is it. The fact that this is the first time such a memo has been written vs the numbers of the internal Google poll demonstrate pretty well that there is a lot of silent dissent.

I agree completely that there are bigger issues but we're human, being told that you will be discriminated against in hiring for whatever reason really bites. In our society your job is everything, your entire security and most people's egos.

Africa etc is more important but I understand the magnitude of the personal stakes and sheer sense of injustice moving this up people's agenda.
To downvoters: an excellent book (by women who are scientists) has been posted earlier today: The Science on Women and Science (http://www.aei.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/-the-science-o...). I'd like to quote one paragraph from it:

We have reviewed overwhelming evidence that genetic and hormonal differences between males and females are major causes of sex differences in behavior. These include differences in social behaviors in infants, play behaviors, interests, activities, educational and vocational goals, choices of occupations, patterns of cognitive abilities, and the frequency of extreme giftedness in spatial, mechanical, and mathematical ability. The dominance of female doctoral students in the life and human sciences and of male doctoral students in the inorganic sciences and engineering is consistent with and predictable by sex differences in interests and ability patterns. The greater social interest and ability of females than males is evident in infancy. The differing play activities and interests of boys and girls share similarities with sex differences in the play behaviors of nonhuman primates. Interests, activities, values, and vocational goals that differentiate girls from boys and women from men are strongly affected by the level of fetal androgen exposure or tissue sensitivity to androgen.
That could be the case. He certainly is a smart person and would have known that this was bound to be the course of things.
You don't have to like the conversation, but the line still needs to be open for conversation.. firing someone over that seems crazy.
The same argument actually hasn't been made for hundreds of years. The argument previously was that women were unfit, not simply uninterested.
expatriate: a person who lives outside their native country.

emigrant: a person who leaves their own country in order to settle permanently in another.
Even if those facts are true, Google must have programs to make things fair. For same responsibilities same salary.

You can say women are different than men or say they are exactly equals. Whatever is your position for the same job you must have the same salary. There shouldn't be any discussion here.
Did he cause the damage or just shine a light on it?

If what he claims is true, that women/minorities are being hired because of essentially affirmative action more than merit, wouldn't that be kind of a shock to people hired there that are in those categories?

Wouldn't they start to wonder if they were hired because of skills or because Google is trying to get percentages right for EEO purposes? Would they also start to wonder if they are underpaid and treated differently because they might be a "quota" job?

Yeah he probably went about it the wrong way. Probably would have got more positive traction to open a dialogue with senior management about the general topic and then bring his points up in a conversation instead of a written manifesto. Maybe he tried that already though, who knows.
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People generally move to another country in search of a better life... not planning where to die. In casual use I hear expatriate used for anything from someone temporarily living abroad to people who have renounced their citizenship - even if still residing in the US. I understand the legal definition for the US is simply someone working in a country that is not their country of origin (https://definitions.uslegal.com/e/expatriate/). In this legal sense, the US applies the term expatriate to Americans who are in other countries but not to people from other countries who are working in the US. Instead, people from outside the US are referred to as aliens until they obtain US citizenship (https://definitions.uslegal.com/a/alien/).

I would not call this an example of Western Exceptionalism. It is rather a phenomenon known as "othering" meaning to portray someone or something as different to emphasize that he/she/it is the other and not us/this. Note you won't find this term in Webster. They were apparently too busy adding "bling" and "ginormous".