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> you would be stupid and shortsighted to not find a way to utilize women and minorities in any way possible to serve your business.

> companies like Google are doing exactly that by promoting policies to bring in and retain women

The problem is that they do it in the extreme. They want to achieve 50% of male and 50% and currently that distribution is not real, there are much more men that women in technology. So they have a positive discrimination for women to get a position even when there is a man that fits better, so they can achieve the 50/50.

If you want the best people and the pool of candidates is 70/30 you cannot have the best candidates with 50/50. You should have like 70/30 that is something proportional to the pool of candidates.

This leads to the question why there are less women than men in technology. Is it discrimination, oppression, a free choice?
As with the original post, I look forward to the thoughtful, tightly reasoned and unemotional discussion that this post will generate.
He doesn't even attach his own name to the writing.

He's a coward
> so net cash flow into the market is zero

That's incorrect. New capital flows into or out of the market constantly. Very frequently the market sees immense net cash flow in, for example typically toward the end of an expansion and just before the next recession or crash. Joe & Jane investor tend to be very late to the party, especially after getting burned badly by the last two asset bubble parties, they joined this one quite late into the expansion.

Large amounts of capital - trillions of dollars in the US alone - are essentially always sitting on sidelines, sometimes more of it moves into the market, sometimes more of it moves to 'safety' and out of the market. You can track these capital in and out flows, it's mostly public information.

For example, this huge burst after the election:

"A whopping $63 billion has poured into U.S. stock funds since Donald Trump won the presidential election, according to the latest tally by Bank of America Merrill Lynch. ... Investors have yanked $37 billion from bond funds since the election. Most of that money rotated right into stock funds. This "great rotation" could be a major story in 2017."

http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/19/investing/investors-pour-63-...
>> How can we have both unity and diversity?

I've always seen things as having a 'level of abstraction'. At one level of abstraction things can have unity, but as you 'zoom in' and change the level of abstraction you'll see the differences and have diversity.

From a distance stars and snowflakes all look the same, but not on closer inspection. Similarly in a foreign country, at first people will all seem the same, but as you spend more time there you level of abstraction changes and you start to see greater diversity.

Since you can zoom in/out infinitely there's no correct level of abstraction to start from or accept as a default, therefore things have great unity and diversity, simultaneously.
yep. Some other article looked into some comments made by googlers discussing this 'manifesto' and the supporter comments could have come straight from 4chan.

Glad that a senior engineer speaks out about this. No company needs to tolerate troglodytes.

I work in finance and when something even fractionally as frivolous as this would have been published you would find yourself out of employment five minutes later. I consider the unprofessional startup culture that some companies like Google explicitly fostered to be at least partially responsible.
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if everyone was riding a bicycle, bicycle riders would be safe indeed...
Not to dismiss the study (because other studies have certainly found counter-intuitive results before), but I've always thought this would be an obvious result. If other road users are used to dealing with cyclists, and expecting them to be there at all, it's hard to see how that would make cycling less safe.
Can't tell if you're one of those people who get people fired for differences of opinion or you just honestly don't see it. So I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume the latter.

I find it amusing that I only have to concern myself with "respect for my coworkers" if my opinion is different from the liberal side on some cause célèbre. I.e. if I comply with liberal dogma and say that having lower hiring bar (or other kinds of preferential treatment) for women is OK, I can say so publicly without fear of it being a career limiting move, but if I believe the opposite and say so publicly, I'm 100% guaranteed to receive a ping from HR reminding me to STFU and never mention it again.
Not that I'm inclined to believe stuff either way, but this is an op-ed and not really financial stuff being reported on.
While the reaction of the company is moronic, there is still an idiot developer somewhere who is taking inputs from the client without checking appropriate access. This is web development 101. But in a world where anyone who can write two lines of php can call himself a web developer, it's pretty much the norm.
The easiest way to see the article is just fighting a strawman of the original manifesto is to notice the article never directly quotes the manifesto.
> What you just did was incredibly stupid and harmful. You just put out a manifesto inside the company arguing that some large fraction of your colleagues are at root not good enough to do their jobs, and that they’re only being kept in their jobs because of some political ideas.

The author seems to assume this is obviously false, and neatly avoids the fact that in many companies, industries, and academic settings, there are indeed a large fraction of people who are not good enough to do their jobs, and are only kept in those jobs because of political ideas.
> Nobody at the DoD seems to know who the aircraft belongs to or what exactly it is doing flying so many missions over the Seattle area.

No. They know they just aren't disclosing it.
>A few years ago someone told me that for anything other than within a especially formal garden design, most people prefer the visual of odd numbers of similar plants grouped together -

Perhaps people seeing groups of items with a single middle element?

When composing mock api data, I do notice I tend to avoid arrays with an even number of elements
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To quote the original manifesto would be to normalize hatred.
Yup, definitely sounded like a SSC reader attempting to channel Alexander.
University is where you learn that almost everything in school books is over simplified, out of date, or (periodically) just plain wrong.

One of the benefits of having researchers teaching is that they have a better understanding of both the content and dynamics of their field. This is far different from primary and secondary schools, where teachers are usually teaching outside of their discipline. Even a high school physics teacher with a science degree is likely to be a biologist or a chemist by training.

Of course, there are a multitude of other differences with university educations. For example: governments don't set the curriculum, which is hugely beneficial for fields like history. (Governments have a nasty desire to set the historical narrative.)
We used to ride on our street when I was young but no one does now. The street is full of cars. People who had a single car 20-30 years ago in their driveway, now have 2-3 and the extras are often parked on the street. This reduces access to play (we played ball sports and rode bikes/skateboards) and makes visibility problematic.
Insults don't add anything helpful to the discussion, and only contribute to further polarization across political divides.
Not an argument
If I quote Hitler in a debate about world war 2, am I normalizing the Holocaust?
The problem isn't what this person's views are. The problem is that you aren't allowed to have a nonconformist view. Precisely what diversity and tolerance are supposed to bring. "We have people from all backgrounds provided they parrot exactly the same view of the world!" Is hardly diversity.

Invariably whoever wrote this will be flogged, and the moral busybodies inside google will gain a little more influence as other people with non-conforming views duck their heads down a little lower.
Some amount of bacteria is good for our immune systems. Letting children play in the dirt, eating their boogers, and all sorts of other gross things that children do has been proven to result in them having stronger immune systems.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/good-news/2016/06/11/our-obsessio...

On the flip side, people who use hand sanitizer all the time? Yep. You guessed it. They end up having crappy immune systems as a result, and in some cases, toxicity from over-absorption of the hand cleaning chemicals such as Triclosan.

http://awakeningwillow.com/2010/04/27/11-toxic-ingredients-t...
The document was written by a Googler about Google and is being commented on by a Xoogler that literally just left the company. It's not a general statement about human incompetence. It's about Google specifically.
Government agencies.

Large investment banks in security or information security.
This seems a little melodramatic. And even if I bought that the 'original manifesto' was espousing 'hatred,' I'm not sure what 'normalizing it' means.

This logic seems an awful lot like a book-burning mentality.
So everything is black and white now and we've lost all room for nuance and grey areas? Seems like that kind of environment would stifle the exploration of difficult subject matter.
The first ever computer programmers were women.Ada Lovelace, Grace Hopper, etc did pioneering work in the field. Women can absolutely be great programmers.
I doubt you can boil it down to any one specific factor. Initial exclusivity (to universities, where FB is particularly useful), unlimited photo sharing, games, etc. are all going to drive adoption by different (overlapping to some extent) groups of people.
I don't want to live in a wilderness, but i would want to greatly reduce mandatory social interactions i have to do daily. Its emotionally draining and stressful.
Almost everything we do can be automated, but people still insist on face-to-face interaction(or at minimum voice/video chat) and there is this herding behavior that forces people to adjust their beliefs and thoughts to conform to current in-group paradigms(the comparison with ant colonies ITT is on point).
All the 24/7 media exposure and rat race of consumerism eventually take their toll on mental health(the polar opposite of "hermit slowly losing their minds") with people becoming psychotic and dependent on pills to function.
Is there any other professional industry as politically divided and toxic as tech has become?

Is there any other industry in which private companies shove their "values" down the throats of their employees in the manner we experience in tech?
The internet is already a hostile jungle (look at the logs of any server you control). Legalizing hacking won't change that. It will just add a little more immunity to bad actors.

And it's kind of a legalize burglary, so that people will be forced to live in fortified compounds.
> Computer science is unique among STEM fields --- even mathematics --- in its gender imbalance.

"In mathematics, just 15 percent of tenure-track positions are held by women, one of the lowest percentages among the sciences, along with computer science (18 percent), and engineering (14 percent)."

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/11/math-wom...
I was really hoping the article would touch on Saturn's north pole hexagon, as it completely blows my mind every time I think about it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn%27s_hexagon
No, it's just that it is easier to shame dissidence than to try to rebut it.
Optical illusions certainly suggest that our visual processing involves trade-offs.
Beside net cash (adventured already commented), also flow itself is correlated to availability of cash. More people desiring to enter the market = more buyers.

And, my personal opinion, more "less-skilled" people entering the market = even easier to raise prices (exactly like in street markets with tourists vs locals).
Buzzzzzz. Godwin's law.
It's a question of how you quote him. If you quote him to argue against him, especially if you do so in a reasonable, thoughtful way, you would be implying the initial statement or argument was reasoned, and thoughtful.

"Normalization" is the process by which we treat ludicrous things as not ludicrous, but debatable.
The article quotes “ideological echo chamber.” It also further quotes:

> The manifesto talks about making “software engineering more people-oriented with pair programming and more collaboration” but that this is fundamentally limited by “how people-oriented certain roles and Google can be;” and even more surprisingly, it has an entire section titled “de-emphasize empathy,” as one of the proposed solutions.

So basically you're just factually wrong.
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> When was the last time you saw a cyclist try and text and ride?

I see it damn near every day here in Japan. Often with an umbrella in the other hand... Also lots of people biking wearing earbuds. Different culture though, I guess. The roads people bike on here are probably a lot slower than in Sydney though, and most biking is on mixed-use sidewalks.
Right. At least a hex grid is still essentially a 2-dimensional array. In most ways it would be identical to a rectangular grid, but the algorithm for sampling surrounding pixels would be slightly different because of the spacial arrangements.
I hope you're joking. If not, I am reminded of the scene from Idiocracy and being on the receiving end of: "You talk like a fag and your shits all retarded."
There's literally no insult in my comment. But, I appreciate your desire to reduce polarization by legitimizing bigotry! Keep on keepin' on.
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Horizontal movement of the cabin, but not horizontal transport of people, as shown in the video.
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there is no need for one. Google is a company, not a marketplace for people's prejudices. They have every right to shut discourse like this down, and they should because it is insulting to every women working at Google.

The good thing about being a company instead of a townhall is that you don't need to accomodate adolescent men feeling insecure about their female coworkers.
Is there any other industry as thoroughly intertwined with the Bay Area? I think the political problems are tied to the far left geography.
You label it a "political divide" when it's one group of people who consider other humans biologically inferior, and therefore less deserving, than others.

If your beliefs are about restricting the rights of others when you have those rights yourself, you are not on one side of a "political divide." Labelling it as such is a euphemism for prejudice.
This is an interesting point. A harsher way to phrase this is, judging by empirical evidence thus far, it takes controlling, illiberal attitudes in order to hold the gap closed.
Bees, ants, and other social insects have complex societies with division of labor. One difference is that in insects, the roles are probably more hard-wired and instinctual while in humans these roles are more malleable and depend on culture.
I think you know there's a bubble when people tell you about the stock picks (amateurs and professionals), and when you quiz them about why the bought, they give you irrational arguments i.e. things unrelated to future cash flow. The reasoning for buying current tech companies may be forward looking or optimistic, but it's not irrational.
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No, adversarial simply means deliberately trying to engineer false positives and negatives. This can be done against humans, machines, ants, trees, viruses ...
It addresses name change by marriage; I'd be curious to know if it holds where the reason for the change was to expressly disavow the old name (e.g. changing away from the family name of an abusive parent).

Edit: typo fix (it'd -> I'd)
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Poor backwater compared to what? Puerto Rico has a GDP per capita between Spain and Italy.
So if an alien abducted you, created a clone to replace you while you are experimented upon, you'd still agree that you are living normally, and nothing happened to "you"?
The term observable when used in the context of the observable universe doesn't necessarily mean something we can actually measure or look at, but rather that which could theoretically have interacted with anything we could interact with based on the speed of light, the age of the universe, and cosmic expansion. Think of it as a bubble of time and everything outside of it hasn't happened yet.
I've a casual worry that $SNAP will hit the bricks and trigger something significant (and negative) within the industry in the near future.

Is this worry justifiable?
First off, if you found those population differences they wouldn't be usefully predictive when it came to your actual employees. The effect sizes are too small and other individual factors much too large.

Second, those differences wouldn't "justify" anything, they would only explain that a disparity would exist in a perfectly just world.

Mainly though, you say "of course there are gender differences" when that's literally not an acceptable thing to say publicly right now. Especially as a corporation. And the evidence showing irrational sexism and racism in tech is even better than the evidence around sex differences.

The question is how to tell how much each factor contributes, because one we want to correct and the other is just a part of the human condition. Since we can't ask the question right now, that's probably step one.

As to just letting the market sort it out ... I find it completely unconvincing that that would ever work. I think that's a naive view of how culture, human social organization and human rationality work. Not even mentioning the fact that serfdom and slavery are very efficient structures from the market point of view.
Group-think wouldn't be a thing if people didn't lose a large part of themselves in social environments, it isn't until after after you leave the environment that you will recognize that your thoughts were dictated by the group.
I understood the original manifesto's main argument to be against intentional, institutional discrimination (e.g. affirmative action) -- with many supporting points.

I don't know what's shameful about that (unless you're referring to something else). He did seem to value gender equality in the sense that men and women should be valued and respected equally (unless I'm reading into it).
At some level one can think of anything as unique, but it's often more useful to consider in what way two (or many) things are similar.

We've got a bit of a dialectic:

Thesis -- The map is not the territory.

Antithesis -- There's nothing so practical as a good theory.

Synthesis -- Use a subway map when catching the train, use a topographical map when doing flood planning, etc.

Taking it back to programming, all abstractions are leaky in some way. A good software engineer uses the right abstraction for the task, knowing that it might be wrong for a different task.
For the actual research paper, look for http://dx.doi.org/10.1038/nplants.2017.93 into sci hub.
Was ZFS determined to be the problem in the root cause analysis, or was it another part of the storage system that failed? It's easy to pass the blame down to the lowest level of the system because no one wants to take the blame.

If it was actually determined to be the fault of ZFS, what was the problem? I'd like to avoid it in my own deployment.
Serious strength training (ie the starting strength routine)

+ Scientifically proven to be good for your brain
+ Quantifiable progress every time you workout
+ Relatively low cost in terms of time and money

How is it that a middle aged person one can smoothly lift weights that 2 months prior would have been too heavy for them to lift even if their life depended on it?

It's not because they learned a neat trick or found some short cut. There can be nothing gained in knowledge or experience that can account for this. Muscle growth might be a factor but that takes a while.

The change that's occurred is at the level of the nervous system. In order for this to happen, chemicals and hormones were released to give new vitality to a system which was just going to rest and decay until death.

But here's the kicker, why would these changes stop at your motor neurons? Could it be that the rush of chemical activity doesn't just help change behavior of motor neurons, but also the neurons in your head?

Think about all the cognitive benefits associated with strength training exercise and you will see it's much more than a hobby to keep yourself busy.

Modern life is incredibly sedentary compared to what humans have evolved for and this problem is especially bad for programmers. Without pushing yourself physically, your mental fitness will decline too.
> You have probably heard about the manifesto a Googler (not someone senior) published internally about, essentially, how women and men are intrinsically different and we should stop trying to make it possible for women to be engineers, it’s just not worth it.

This sets the tone for the entire article: An emotionally driven rant that refutes nothing and argues against a strawman.
Interestingly, at the sub atomic scale, the quantum state _is_ the identity. If you have two particles at the same state, then it's meaningless to say you have two particles, add they are actually the same particle...
It's a reasonable worry. Your average investor is not tech savvy and definitely not the target age for most tech companies. Will an investor know the difference between FB, Twitter and Snap? Or will he come to a sell conclusion after seeing Snap and Twitter fumbling the ball deciding to cash out on tech. Pretty reasonable.
What if someone you didn't know said "look how easy it was for me to break into your house!" I understand the reaction. People just need to be better informed on how to deal with computer security.
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> these people had/have aspergers [...] and simply have no interest exhausting the effort

I don't think it _necessarily_ needs to be aspergers for that. I have OCD regarding, e.g., remembering exactly what people said, and it makes social situations exhausting.
Everything is debatable. Even this.
You're not thinking in defensive mode. What happens when the sensor fails?
I didn't see anything in the "manifesto" that seemed insulting to women... care to elaborate?
It does not seem productive to trivialize and disregard people's issues only because we haven't witnessed them ourselves.

There's a difference between trivializing or disregarding particular complaints, vs questioning just how representative they are of the broader situation.
Got it - I misinterpreted your original point and I thought you were specifically pointing to some companies.

I think the rest of my argument still holds, more availability of cash = increase value. (I actually just noticed that the top comment says basically the same.)
I won't say anything positive or negative about either the original post or the rebuttal because publicly touching any of this is career suicide. But I will comment that as assertive the original author was about things, citing various facts and studies, was not the rebuttal similar in repeatedly saying the original author was wrong and citing his own studies? Can anyone in social science really say anything is fact? Social science is about the weakest "science" there is in terms of absolute proof and sureities
Aren't blacklists supposed to be illegal in the US?
:) Be well.