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Re: The ATM point. The evidence they cite is this graph [1]. I'm not sure that this is a compelling graph. Sure the number of tellers has been growing, but it's been very slow growth. Meanwhile, ATM's have been skyrocketing in popularity. One could easily argue that teller job creation was heavily impacted by ATM's, but offset by overall population growth.

[1]http://www.aei.org/publication/what-atms-bank-tellers-rise-r...
Seems like an easy thing to make a helper function for.
I suspect this is someone outside of the US, say in Africa or India. Their yearly salary is not up to $10k.
I imagine it’ll happen eventually. Maybe not to the same extent, but not everyone wants to pay exorbitant costs or live on the west coast...

I’d gladly take less money and continue to live / set up a business in Chicago.
"but but there is NO job humans can do that a robot cannot do"

this is the gist of the reactions i got to a comment i made on an article on a similar topic here a few days ago.

this article better articulated what i was trying to say there:

But machines are not effective at persuading, at developing advertising campaigns, at branding products or corporations, or at greeting you at the door in a charming manner, as is done so often in restaurants, even if you order on an iPad. Those activities will remain the province of human beings for a long time to come.

people here seem to forget that all this automation is being done to serve us better, the people (i guess you could argue it's really being done to better serve shareholders, but that's another discussion).

we're still weird, unpredictable creatures who eat, sleep, poop, and work in a 4-dimensional world...so there will ALWAYS be a human component to delivering products and services.

even if a good bit of the designing, building, and distribution of these services may be automated.
It has two "hot" issues in it:

- System won't boot

- Systemd

The first is enough to catch a large number of people's attention and the second is usually enough to start a bit of a flame war.
Probably the historical animosity around systemd from those that feel it has scope creeped into places it doesn't belong.
Assuming we take the article at face value.. how does coverage compare to any other major company?
Hi Peller,

Thanks for such detailed explanation much appreciated.

Cheers
The center of the tech universe will always be the point of least resistance (to new ideas, cultures, mixing, lifestyles, etc).

For now, that's San Francisco (apparently) but for how much longer is anyone's guess.

Unless the necessary environment changes (i.e. tolerance is no longer a requirement) it will remain in SF or a place like it.

If tolerance and acceptance is somehow no longer necessary for a tech hub to bloom, it might end up anywhere.
Actual product slogan from the era:

"Nothing sucks like a VAX"

(VAX was a brand of vacuum in the UK, apparently. A colleague had a print ad with this slogan from a magazine on the wall.)
> The hope is that once assembled and weighted it can't be moved easily.

It's amazing how heavy a burglar safe is - even a small one. I have one just big enough to store some documents, spare phone, keys, and some cash. But it took two guys and a trolley to get it up the stairs to my apartment. Even if a burglar could rip it out of the floor, and push it down the stairs, I doubt that they could lift it up into their car or whatever.
Why would Bezos care either way? Seems like he has more to win by not being seen as a tyrant and letting his paper publish whatever he wants about him. It's not like a critical article about Amazon is going to sink or have any effect on that Titanic.
A genuine breakthrough in the narrow realm of reverse mathematics. (The article exagerates that into a breakthrough in general, par for the course for science journalism.)

Here's the actual paper: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1601.00050.pdf

The quantamagazine article puts a lot of emphasis on the youth (34 and 27) of the researchers. I guess the journalist overlooked a more surprising age. Lu "Jiayi" Liu (whom the article briefly mentions for a preliminary result) was I think 20 years old when he made his discovery in 2012 which was a tentative step toward the stronger result in this article. I saw Liu give a talk and it was remarkable. It was in a conference where all the other speakers were very well-established logicians with many decades in the field, and then this Chinese undergrad who was probably the youngest person in the whole building... and all these well-established logicians were humbled by him.
A local's desire for a quiet street doesn't morally outweigh another American's desire to live on that street.

>The essence of democracy is allowing people to determine their own future

Precisely! We The People determined that it would be our future to have freedom of movement, via the Privileges and Immunities Clause. When we ratified the 14th Amendment, we further reiterated that every American citizen is entitled to equal status under state laws.

That's why prosperous cities resist growth through ham-fisted but plausibly-deniable proxy measures like zoning, rent control, and environmental review. Their goals could be achieved with more elegance and fewer damaging side effects by establishing immigration controls, but they can't, because the American community says that's off-limits.

Subsets of America closing themselves off is a perversion of the right to self-determination, same as it is when people and corporations decide not to pay their federal taxes. It doesn't matter that San Franciscans don't want more neighbors, any more than it matters that the tax evader wants to keep his income. The democratic process ordained that you have to share.

Americans trying to move around America are not outside interests, they are members of the community. Local NIMBY policies transfer wealth to small subsets while harming the community in aggregate, which is right down the middle of behaviors that governments should and usually do shut down.

As people with disposable income, tech workers find a way: redirect some of it to rent. The real victims of opportunity hoarding are the others in the economically stagnant towns we come from would like to follow us but can't. And of course, locals who remain subject to the pressure-cooker housing market, because NIMBY policies are imperfect and ensnare some natives too (those who didn't lock in rent control or mortgages in time).
Why do you care if they are careful or not?
There is no such thing as Infinite outside your heads. This is actually a pattern - a false dichotomy with a pure abstraction produced as an abstract opposite or an abstract result of negation of some other concept or a named entity. Applied Hegelian nonsense if you wish.

Infinity is a pure abstraction, like zero, but ill-defined (zero is an symbol for a concept of an empty slot, absence or nothing, while infinite is mere a negation of finite). Like many other concepts it might be useful, but usability does not imply existence.
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What if their contract is to load paper into printer once every other week? Do they still deserve to be paid salary that'd allow them to rent property in one of the most expensive places in the country?

That seems a bit idealistic, don't you think? A business needs to make profits.
I'm really conditioned to come at the legalization issue from other angles, but the cognitive liberty argument is quite nice. The talk here [0] provides a good introduction to the topic, but fair warning, there is a lot of passionate politics discussed (e.g. the state of jefferson etc...).

[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDPL8_4W-8Q&t=1012s
I think most all of us have experienced this. I know I have many times.
What do you think is the benefit of encrypting /boot? I can't imagine having anything sensible on there.
It's a hell of a lot better than telling me to install and configure any service dependencies you have (databases, say) outside a container. 'Cuz I'm definitely not going to crap up my system doing that. I'm also not likely to install an entire development environment I don't otherwise need just to run your thing. Just make it a "docker-compose up" for me to install all that junk, or something similarly clean and easy, or it won't happen. Bonus: much higher likelihood that it won't break due to some local environment issue you didn't account for, so lower chance of having your beautiful program fall on its face right out of the gate. Use Vagrant I guess (is that still a thing?) if you're worried about the reviewers not having/wanting Docker or similar, though it's a bigger PITA to configure than Docker and usually takes longer to start up. The point is the concept (keeping your build/run env from crapping up my system in any way that requires me to run more than one or two really easy to discover commands to entirely undo, and ensuring your build/program can run in as many plausible environments as possible without stumbling) not the specific tech.

If you don't have any such dependencies (great!), your build environment's really simple, and you're confident the build's reproducible on my machine without containerizing it then don't do that, hence the "if relevant". If you can leave it running on Heroku or something instead that's fine, but documentation-wise the #1 thing I usually want to see, aside from WTF it's for, is a set of instructions (it can be "run 'make && make install'", that's fine, but tell me) for how to build & run the project that actually work if I follow them. That includes programs that run server-side, the authors of which seem to be the worst about not providing such instructions. Even if I don't try it out, seeing credible-looking well-written directions for those most basic of interactions with your project is comforting and will be among the first things I look for.

TL;DR the point is your README should prominently contain answers to the questions "how do I build this?" and "how do I run this?" and you should make the answers as painless and easy to undo as possible.

[EDIT] and yeah, my fault for not making that TL;DR the entire original statement and avoiding discussion of the not-that-important particulars entirely.
Kubernetes Overview, Monitoring and Security
Apple, and iOS developers, need Swift a lot more than Google needs Kotlin. The main benefit to Google is that Kotlin provides a ready-to-deploy lifeboat in case Oracle is able to make significant intellectual property trouble for Google.
Didn't read the pdf but I used to work for a lottery Corp and from what I heard security was nuts. One of the server room IT guys left for Blue Cross and later said Blue Cross was much less strict than the lottery.

I also recall one of the compliance guys telling me about the balls used in one of those bingo ball tumbling machines. He said they had to wash, dry and weigh each ball before every draw. Of course it was fun to yell to him saying on draw day "hey it's Friday did you wash and dry your balls?"
An old programming meme is the "Halt-and-Catch-Fire" bug.

Entire lists[0] of would-be instruction sets were circulated; HCF was a common one.

[0] https://www.computerhope.com/forum/index.php?topic=36570.0
I'm all for property rights, but I think the social contract here is pretty ambiguous. Google just tosses these bikes out on the streets, does nothing to police their usage, doesn't ask the police to go after unauthorized users, and doesn't seem to care too much if you call them about a misplaced bike. Google bikes are closer to litter than to property.
You watch a lot of porn. Not judging, just impressed.
Hi Microwavecamera, thanks for the information, appreciated. Cheers
Hi Libx, I thank you. Cheers.
I don't think I ever found a UNIX termcap for the VT220 that worked completely.
Building trading strategies cost nothing, but without one, you better go to Vegas with your million, you'll have the same chances of making money...
I was actually amazed they don't test this scenario (I was one of first affected by this bug on all my systems about a week ago).

LUKS encryption is probably THE most common setup for newer desktop linux installations, so I was amazed they didn't test this, but just rather plain ol' unencrypted setups.
I imagine it comes across as pie-in-the-sky thinking to many people who have seen what addiction does to people. Addicts will even take drugs that they know will kill them in the span of a few months (see the krokodil epidemic in Russia).
It's not that these are the best reasons to change the law. It's that these are the reasons everyone can agree on
Yea, probably. Posting threads and comments definitely does.
It would seem to be the case, but I certainly don't have any numbers. I've only started reading the book Chasing the Scream by Johann Hari, but it starts out by describing the scene in the US and around the world in the early 20th century when drugs were legal to buy, and even after initial prohibition, when doctors would prescribe opiates to addicts. The picture that is painted by the book seems to suggest that addicts were allowed access and it was athen small minority of this group that couldn't hold down jobs and raise families.
This isn't really an answer, but I've noticed that the people most prone to declare the next great hub fall into one of two main camps:

1.) Journalists.

2.) Regional economic development types.
No; systemd handling encrypted boot isn't new. I moved to using it over a year ago, and it was already quite spread within the Arch community (from the amount of forum posts, etc at the time), so it's probably quite older than that.
> Simply using a tumbler is not illegal.

Right, but operating a tumbler without FINCEN registration and a MSB license is illegal. Even if the money put through it is entirely legal.
What is great about being a human is that, even if the premise turns out to be true, 1) I will never be a marketer, and yet 2) I will not starve. I don't have to be smarter than a robot, I just have to be smarter than the person who made the robot.
I'm just relaying the arguments I've read.
It's easy to address that in a readme. "This is a showcase of my craft, for which reason I avoid using frameworks or anything else that would obscure my work with boilerplate or autogenerated code, or anything that's not really mine, though I do rely on others' libraries when it makes sense as those complement and clarify rather than obscure my code. If you just want to see a TODO app I wrote in Rails with a bunch of 3rd party auth via Devise and a Firebase backend and like 100 lines of code that I actually wrote myself, click HERE"

[EDIT] tense agreement fix. [EDIT2] misplaced apostrophe
"They had an IBM 360/44... what we would now call a RISC machine"

Wow, I wasn't even aware of that... I thought the instruction sets of the 360 series were all compatible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System/360_Model_44
Omg yes alpine Linux is amazing
Because in the real, non-theoretical bullshit world there are many undesirable social effect. For instance, dependence, irrational behavior, broken homes and death. Which necessarily involve other people and society as a whole. That's why. Sorry to be curt, but the idea an individual is independent of society approaches orthodox communism in lack of practical workability.

However I would argue that the current approach also breaks up homes, kills people and is generally irrational so that doesn't seem the way to go either.

Gore Vidal I think has the ultimate answer to the drug problem. Invent better drugs. Mitigate the harm. People will leave off the dangerous trash if there are better (and cheaper) alternatives.
I'm pretty sure those numbers include overtime.
Did you read the article? The percentage of people who become addicts after using drugs is actually quite low, even for the 'big four' most addictive drugs (cocaine, heroin, meth, and crack)... so it is NOT true that everyone's free agency is overruled by addiction. In fact, a significant majority do not lose free agency; should they all be restricted because some people can't handle it?

The harmful products we should regulate are ones whose use harms other people; things like pesticides, pollutants, etc. Otherwise, where do you draw the line? Lots of people think playing video games or watching tv 'rots your brain.' Some people eat way too much unhealthy food. Should we ban tvs and Doritos?
> Money laundering is now about not reporting all your financial movements to the government.

It's surprising how many people are unaware of this, even on a forum composed of fairly informed people like HN.
Even if you don't know the people? So, would writing comments on a 1990s geocities guestbook count, since the word hadn't been invented yet? It didn't seem "social" until all your real friends used their real names. If it's all strangers using screen names, it can't be too social.. by this definition, Twitter isn't really social media, except for the celebs using their real names.
As an infosec pro, If I was in charge of a lottery RNG, I would require the use of a recent unmodified Linux or OpenBSD distro and simply use getrandom(2). These custom RNG introduce 100% unnecessary complexity and risks. I am baffled none of them seem to do that and they need thirdparty certification procedures (who miss RNG flaws anyway.)
So you would rob others of their liberty over self to preserve your own sense of righteousness?
Well there's no "women in heels stomping on stamp sheets" section on pornhub, is there?
What if they were legal but every sale had a special tax with the money specifically going to rehab and for those who need help.
Hacking DEC's

1. Find a friggin' DEC-20
good analysis, unfortunately it had not much to do with the bully, which I promptly reported and the mods took care of him, but it doesn't change the fact I was bullied... for my detailed trading strategy, I am yet to see a sane person with good working trading strategy to go and publish it on the internet, so nice try with the analysis, I'll give you that :-)
People use less cash now so there's that too.
Well, tobacco use generally affects just the user. Alcohol is the real killer.

Alcohol users drive into school buses and kill innocent children.

Now that we have our first president who doesn't use alcohol, it's time we crack down on the alcohol users. For the children.
>I think the only place people don't make porn is Utah--though it's the #1 place for people to retire to afterwards.

Is this true? And if so, why?
Well, there's an argument to be made that captains of industry shouldn't own newspapers, full stop. That argument can be made without evidence, and there's some credence to it.
I went over a few chapters this afternoon and really enjoyed what you've put together. I'll definitely recommend it to friends who ask me about learning to code.
I fundamentally disagree with this article. Automation hits some places earlier than others, but I think "marketing" isn't as far away as they think. We're starting to develop bots that can make puns, text to speech that sounds human, etc. What happens when bots can pass the Turing Test? When they know everything about the trends you follow, finances you have, products you've bought, shows you watch, places you go, jokes you enjoy? Marketing will start becoming "personalised", and I don't think humans will be behind the controls for long after that.

Humans won't be marketing, they will be marketed. Humans will be a novelty, like a hand-carved chair or a horse-drawn carriage. Probably worse than the human-free product, but worth paying a bit extra for the idea of it.
people here seem to forget that all this automation is being done to serve us better, the people (i guess you could argue it's really being done to better serve shareholders, but that's another discussion).

Well, it's being done to increase profit. That's a bit different.
For the model presented, I'd say more like "customer service". But then, for whom? For each other, I guess.

In that world, I'd rather become a human-assisted robot. Potentially immortal, even.
A trick I've been doing is using the block element option in uBlock Origin to block them.
Why would you believe that aside from taking DARE classes? There is so much FUD in the drug space that it clouds proper judgement.
Honest, sincere, question here:

How is programming in PHP these days? I haven't used the language since 4.x-5.2 or so. I wrote it off completely when Hack and HHVM came out due to the nuances between it and PHP proper (not to say either is bad, it was just another barrier, and set of choices I didn't care to deal with). I typically write Ruby, Elixir, and some JVM based languages these days. Any new features or language changes that make it more pleasant or any good use cases compared to my usual languages? I will add using it anywhere, while a valid use case, isn't something particularly attractive to me.

Edit: just wanted to say thanks for all the good comments posted so far!
Programmers programming AI's to automate marketing will definitely have a job longer than marketers.
I was under the impression that comments on news sites were mostly to divert the readership from directly contacting the author or the company through channels that are listened to; merely a solution to keep the wacko segment of the readership occupied and satiated. At least in practice, this is how it appears to function; they're almost exclusively 3rd party plugins and nobody that works for the news organizaion seems to ever engage with them.
I would imagine it's more about making sure no one ELSE can drop a payload in there... e.g. a backdoor'ed kernel.
From https://www.facebook.com/careers/locations/ there are openings in Austin, Fort Worth, New Mexico and Iowa among other lower-priced (so excluding NYC, LA and Seattle) locations.
Flooding as quickly as possible into hyper-connected and rapidly changing beehives of activity ("cities") is one of thew few constants of the history of human civilization.

The absurdity is that we have such low need for agricultural labor, and such sophisticated technology for skyscrapers and subways, and still live so far from each other, in such small clusters. The absurdity is that there are still, in 2017, substantial numbers of humans that don't live in major cities.
> Humans will be a novelty, like a hand-carved chair or a horse-drawn carriage.

This is the good outcome.

In a post-intelligence world, humans will be cute zoo animals. We might have freedom, but I can't imagine us having any measure of real control. Even if modern society continues, it will be a cordoned off bubble, a "human preserve".

If we're unruly and give the robots too much trouble, they could just dispense with us. Or dumb us down and make us tame--domesticate us, like animals.
Even if we eliminated money, we would be automating work to benefit us. That's the root motivation.
It's not a terrible experience, but it is truly baffling that anyone would start a project in it today. A good static type system is too useful and important.
I imagine regulated distribution. Make people have to jump through hoops, get enrolled in a national registry and take educational classes on the drugs. Incentivize this route by offering cheap/free, pure drugs so that black market alternatives become exceedingly less worthwhile. Basically the meta version of parents allowing their kids to drink under supervision. Society has a chance to convey and establish norms for use and can intervene if a person falls into dangerous patterns.
Here's something that's puzzled me: Why would robots want to do all of those things? What if robots became capable of taking over the world, but had no motivation to do so?

Why would they make puns, or speech that sounds human? They could make speech that is more pleasant to robots if they didn't care about humans. I don't go around making speech that sounds dog-like.
Which it turns comes across as ignorant, to people aware of how successfully Portugal handled their heroin addiction crisis, through decriminalization.