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I would write off someone posting about any country if their entire statement could be boiled down to "X is reporting it wrong" without any evidence or examples...

It just so happens that this kind of statement is common in the Chinese people that I speak with.

You can make a very good case that Western media is terrible in its China reporting, but a blunt statement like that isn't going to be received well in a community like HN that likes to think of itself as critical.

As I said, I was trying to help them understand how their statement was likely to be received not "tritely dismissing the comment on technicalities." which is an interpretation entirely of your own that wasn't contained in my original post.
To clarify, this was not built by the Government of India. This is a common misconception because the entity responsible - the National Payments Corporation of India, sounds like an arm of the government. However, it's actually a private corporation whose shareholders are the main banks. [1] Some of those banks happen to be state owned, however.

Also, the government has not and will never give up on Income Tax. Although only an estimated 1.5% of the population pays Income Tax [2], that's still the lion's share of govt revenue. By encouraging digital payments, the govt thinks it will be able to track money better and make people less likely to dodge any tax, whether consumption or income tax.

Next, transactions on UPI are free for the time being, as mandated by the govt. But if it becomes successful, the plan is to introduce small fees ($0.01-0.06). It's likely that the customer will pay that fee, rather than the merchant, which is the opposite of what we're used to with card networks. It's possible that this will hurt UPIs popularity for small transactions. But the banks that funded the development and upkeep of this API need to see a return on investment, so they're unlikely to keep it free in perpetuity. One compromise is that the fee will only apply to P2P transactions, rather than point-of-sale transactions [3].

Why did the banks fund this then? Don't banks everywhere jealously guard their APIs and minimise interoperability? It's different in India for a couple of reasons. Firstly, India is heavily regulated. The govt issues many declarations, especially in the banking industry, that are meekly listened to. The govt encouraged the creation of a common API, and it was built. Secondly, the banks themselves want to do it. In India, payment apps are very popular because of the great UX. Most restaurants and many small vendors accept mobile payments through "wallet" apps like PayTM (partly owned by Alibaba). These apps increasingly account for most digital transactions. They're nimble because it's easy to sign up with them - unlike banks they don't need to perform KYC until the user has $200 in his wallet. The banks can see the writing on the wall - either they provide a compelling payment experience or they will be replaced. The next generation of customers might end up opening bank accounts with PayTM instead.

Here's the really interesting nugget in all of this though. We have a payment API exposed by all major banks. We're not stuck with only the substandard apps developed by banks, anyone can build one, pending approval by the banking authority (RBI). It's reported in the press that Facebook and Google have both applied for this approval [4], so we could see it integrated with WhatsApp, Messenger and Android in the near (3-9 months) future. If you can pay through WhatsApp, why take out your credit card?

[1] - http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/money-and-banking/npci-b...

[2] - http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/policy/why-...

[3] - http://gadgets.ndtv.com/internet/news/upi-payments-tax-charg...

[4] - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/w...
Also some of us don't even like to have the software localized. English is not my mother tongue and it's not an official language where I live either but I always set the system language to American English on my computers and devices.
"My tendency to idealize Western civilization arises from my nationalistic desire to use the West in order to reform China"

I cannot read this without translating it in the way I imagined it would be heard in the offices of power, to mean he is freely admitting to the desire to subvert his own nation with foreign culture, no matter or difference his meaning or intent.

I'm being as literal as ever I can be, but I have understood that sentence as if I just read it being said about my country and not China. I would not be amused with someone saying that about England.
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And by your words no one else is allowed to either? Why?
India and China have over 1bn people. Their countries are inferior to he US in so many ways. Of course they want to come here, and if there was no cap on the number, they would drive the wages down to rock bottom.

They will always be cheaper than US labor. And there are other advantages like employer loyalty because they cannot easily change job, which means employers can push them very hard and they won't quit - because its complicated to shift to another employer and they have to restart their green card.

I think behind all this is the feeling that the best opportunities are given to foreigners who then rise up the ranks, opportunities which could have been given to Americans.

Regarding immigration in general, the left continuously argues to keep low-paid foreign workers here to the benefit of large corporates. The justifications of "all of Silicon Valley companies support foreign immigration" makes perfect sense for these companies, but not for the nation. Silicon Valley is a bubble.
Actually, I never understood this. Is demand and supply matched and this is just the lag in the system (ie 6-8 weeks remains 6-8 weeks forever) or demand is greater than supply and this number will grow.
If it is the former then there doesn't seem to be a cost advantage for the wait. A temporary increase in supply could bring this waiting time to zero with just the cost of 6-8 weeks worth of x-rays outsourced. And then you have a steady state system with zero waiting.
Hm... It feels like pmOS would be an ideal host for running applications written in http://www.red-lang.org/

It has a very concise, cross-platform GUI DSL ("inherited" from Rebol) which requires a 1MB runtime only on top of the host OS' GUI system.

Look what can you build in ~7kB which can run on top of a 1MB runtime, not a 100MB browser...

http://www.red-lang.org/2016/12/incursion-into-explorable-ex...

A few years ago I've actually built an iPhone app launcher simulator in a few kilobytes which looked exactly the same on a PPC iBook, an x86 Mac Mini or a Windows PC...
So, how do we stop it?

Serious question - how do we go about making our voices heard in a way that will make a difference?
In neural translation seq2seq, using while_loop in the decoder RNN saves a lot of GPU time because it can quit early when a sentence ends.
the two party is a problem, despite you not seeing it. and the cult of personality instead of ideological elections is mostly what the Chinese media mocks the west for.
Sure, it might be a stupid argument, why is it banned again?

Oh, you just don't like it.
>Also, your statement about H1s getting paid way less isn't usually true, they're required to be paid the prevailing wage for the job they're doing in their geographical area.

That's easy to game and not enforced very well.

>there's some good reasons

Often that good reason is that if they're fired and can't very quickly find another employer, they'll have to leave the country. And if the company is sponsoring a green card, depending on where they are in the process if they change employers, they'll be moved back in priority.

Employing a workforce full of H-1B visa holders means you have a workforce with drastically reduced mobility. That alone is worth the price for many employers. Add to that the fact that it's relatively easy to get away with something like hiring someone for QA and making them do development work (to bypass prevailing wage requirements) and H-1Bs are a lot more attractive than you seem to think.
Exactly.

In my father's life, it was not allowed to vote unless you were the owner outright of property and women gained suffrage in his early years. My father lacked a birth certificate, and this prevented him from voting, until resolved. Imagine every child of a single parent family disenfranchised...
i dont even need to go that far, looking closer to home there are plenty of reasons, imagining i had a partner who made around the same as me could we afford for one of us to quit work to look after the kid? no, could we afford to pay someone to look after it? no, even affording the extra costs of supporting a non working human being like food and clothes etc would put incredible strain on the financial situation.

of course in that situation there would be a ton of benefits i could claim that would make it more affordable but why should i expect other people to pay out for my desire to have a child i cant afford?
Same here, I couldn't care less about a German translation. I'm not going to see it if it's not the only language the app comes with.

I do however prefer a German locale as in number, time, units, etc.
> 三百年殖民地。香港一百年殖民地变成今天这样，中国那么大，当然需要三百年殖民地，才会变成今天香港这样，三百年够不够，我还有怀疑。

I am a decently educated Chinese native speaker. The quoted Chinese sentence from Liu is not acceptable to me. I do not think it is a direct comparison against HongKong.

I am fine with him arguing about changing the political situation of China or whatsoever. And, actually, the discussion on that should be more open. However, I cannot agree on his view about changing China through colonial no matter what he tries to justify. And I believe no rational Chinese people will agree him on this.
Well I'm assuming that if Turnbull sends "a fucking Facebook poke" then its a matter of national security, and therefore not subject to surveillance
I think in the short term it's going to be A or B. But my bet is on within a year you'll turn out to be right that Bitcoin is going to tank.
What are you talking about? There are far too many STEM graduates already. Brilliant people with PhDs from great schools often can't find living-wage work in their fields.

Becoming highly educated in STEM isn't just low-value-add, it destroys value: a smart person wastes years of his life and productive capacity training for a research position he'll never get, then (optimistically) gets a programming or finance job which barely (if at all) leverages a few of his undergrad classes.

The economy, and basic human compassion, require that we stop wasting these people's youth and loading them up with debt. We need drastic cuts to STEM programs until we're producing graduates at somewhere near the rate at which we're hiring them.

That, or a massive investment in private sector R&D and public grant writing such that the output of the existing STEM education machine can find decent, relevant work.
To have a Russian/China system, is not really that easy.

Russian/China system builds on a competitive hierarchy of exams to basically classify people into buckets according to their intelligence level. Even though it may be good on a national scale, it is indeed a cruel system to individuals. Your confidence or personality is least of this system's concern, and living a micro society where score is literally everything and the ones with low score will be looked down upon by teachers and peers alike and being told constantly low score meaning no future, I doubt such system will be welcomed here by American society for, you know, greater good.

Disclaimer: survivor of such system, not really miss it though. It almost destroys my love for science, which only recovers many years later.
After running these GPU benchmarks I had to reboot my Macbook because all my open windows went scrambled and unreadable.

Not sure what's the root cause for this.
In my experience, if there is an easy way, low risk for a company to make more money, then they will do it. So why haven't Amazon, Google, or such done so already? Do they just hate money?

Reasonable answers include:

- Google and friends don't perceive the ride-sharing market to be a profitable market to enter, in which case Uber may have problems, but competition from Google, Amazon, et all is not one of them.

- It actually isn't so simple to just "spin up" such a service. It would require a large investment in terms of development, regulatory hurdles, and marketing just to get a foot in the door, with a high level of risk that the effort doesn't succeed (see most all business ventures ever).

Uber has many problems. But competition from Google, Amazon, et all is not one of them. Lyft? Yes. Google, Amazon, Apple, Facebook, and so on? No.
> Do you think Liu deserves Nobel Peace Prize after saying that publicly?

I don't care one way or the other, it's the Nobel committee's decision who they award the prize to. It makes no difference to me. It doesn't make what he, or any other Nobel Laureate say any more true or worthy of consideration.

> Remember that the argument was "There is certain views that should never ever be publicly stated".

There was no argument, it was a statement. If you want to argue in favor of why some views should never be publicly stated and who is gonna decide what is/is not allowed, go ahead.
Just to add a moment of levity, I'm reminded of a great quote from Alan Sokal:

Anyone who believes that the laws of physics are mere social conventions is invited to try transgressing those conventions from the windows of my apartment. (I live on the twenty-first floor.)
The two-party system absolutely is a problem, but it's still better than a one-party system.
It reminds me the path-traced online game, that I made three years ago :) http://powerstones.ivank.net/
he made that argument almost 30 years ago, he never offered any explanation or clarification to state that his comments were just a comparison.

note that:

1. he had numerous interviews after publicly making that comments.
2. he is widely criticised for that even by his peers, if that was an misunderstanding, why he refused to offer any clarification?
Sounds like your GPU is dying.
Do you agree with his jail sentence and permanent house arrest?
I absolutely agree with your premise.

But I cannot help but feel saddened, to reduce the prize to a level of the publicity it conveys.

Neither can I eradicate the thought that awarding such a prize in this manner surely is felt as a provocation by the Chinese government as you rightly point out that the sole effect is of publicising and canonising a man whom they are, by their values, imprisoning justly for admitted subversion.
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Most posts on HN are statements or opinion not backed up by facts. Occasionally an academic type will provide footnotes to their post but it's not the norm. Typically if someone's post is not received well, people respond by asking for references or a challenge to back up their statement.

You take a comment that is not really qualitatively different from any other post on HN and give it special status because it's posted by a Chinese national.
That appears to be just the same quote in Chinese. I'm not sure if it contains more nuance to bring clarity to the situation - perhaps you can assist there?

What would also help is more context for the quote. Is it a part of a bigger piece of writing?

I'm not asking you to do all the research for me, feel free not to reply - my interest is only really in passing. Though if you do reply feel free to use as much original Chinese text as you like to lend clarity. [1]真是我会度看可是我写中文写得不好。

[1] For those of you playing at home I can read, but my written Chinese is a bloody disaster.
I absolutely can recommend LineageOS (used to be CyanogenMod). I installed it for the first time about a week ago on my phone, and I couldn't be happier.

Rooting it is straightforward, and the first thing I did was to install a firewall, and AdAway (so I get system wide ad-blocking and tracker-blocking). It's an incredible feeling that for the first time in forever I'm more in charge of what my phone does.

The only caveat is that the support from LineageOS for less popular phones isn't great (unless you get lucky!) but if it does work on your phone, absolutely go for it.
I found this to be quite condescending -- "lower levels of Maslow hierarchy".

Have you considered that perhaps most Chinese people are "made unready" for democracy simply because of the extreme suppressions by an authoritarian regime?

Or have you considered that perhaps food, shelter, and openness are not mutually exclusive -- that one must have one in order to have another?
Did we ever stop being the laughing stock? Our only recent claim to fame is Atlassian (plus some of the stuff CommBank pioneered). Aside from that, everything else has been a total shit-show.
These tend to be swampy wetlands, and people have drained and developed swamps all the time for hundreds of years.
Richer people have the time for exercise. The poor are focused on survival.
This article is an interpretation of original reporting done by Politico [1]. From the original article.

"legislation would also mark a broader shift away from the current immigration system, which favors those with family currently in the U.S., toward a merit-based approach."

"Those admitted to the U.S. on the basis of merit have accounted for less than 10 percent of all legal immigrants over the past 15 years"

"Trump praised the virtues of the merit-based models of Canada and Australia"

1: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/12/trump-legal-immigra...
What are you trying to say? Is this a question related to my last view or trying to question me?! I cannot figure your point really.
actually its not completely true. The banks were MADE to do it by Raghuram Rajan (the ex-director of the Reserve Bank of India)
The day of UPI launch was the last day Raghuram Rajan was in office. Even today, you see news of banks trying to sidestep the UPI. For example HDFC tried to start charging UPI transactions, but was soon made to shut it down.

GST tax is also a private agency - the GSTN Pvt Ltd. - but that is the structure the govt created for autonomy.

The RBI in India is heavily progressive - for example the business models of Yodlee is at risk for bank data scraping, because the RBI is creating a new kind of a regulatory structure (called "Aggregator NBFC") whose only job is to hold personal financial information.

The plan to start charging for UPI has been a debate inside the RBI that I have been privy to - everyone has bets on different sides of the table. My personal bet is that the govt is going to keep digital payments free for the next decade atleast. The revenue share is too less - the long term strategic gains are too high to not do otherwise. Plus, the govt is promoting digital payments in villages which were predominantly cash - this cannot happen unless digital and cash are made equally free.

Anyone can integrate with UPI - you can too. Its not very hard. Facebook, Google have had licenses for a long time. Its the demand side that they are figuring out.
Either companies i know don't know how to find the surplus of domestic stem students and thus hire from abroad (and actively complain about the changes), or maybe we just don't pay enough to syphon people away from the high paying liberal arts professions.

Who knows, maybe the administration is right, we have a glut and need to restrict outside pressure in those fields.
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Quilt is an incredibly widely used tool. Many kernel developers use it as an alternative to git for patch management, and it's used by most distributions to manage their patches on top of upstream projects.
how about just focus on the core issue here? the core issue here is how come someone with such an extremist style view got awarded a nobel prize.

or you may want to explain to me how this whole "China needs to be colonized by the west for 300 years" crap is not extremist style.
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Nice! Waiting for OnePlus One support.
If you know the md5 hash, why not login with another password that generates the same hash value? Does it actually need to be the same passord?
And you know what? The majority of Chinese like those policies that's violating certain human rights.

How do you know this? It's impossible to measure the support for those policies when discussion and criticism of them is not permitted.

There is a way to measure whether policies are actually supported by the people. It's called multi-party elections.
The title is misleading. The article and the source reporting from Politico [1] state that the intent is to shift to merit based immigration policies away from policies that favor individuals with family connections.

From the Politico article the legislation would "increase the number of green cards — which allow for permanent residency in the U.S. — that are granted on the basis of merit to foreigners in a series of categories including outstanding professors and researchers, those holding advanced degrees, and those with extraordinary ability in a particular field."

1: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/12/trump-legal-immigra...
Yeah, that's more of a web framework thing.
> they know the pain, effort, and time it takes to accumulate wealth so they're loathe to take it from someone else

Or they believe in divine right / hereditary caste system. In fact a long established hereditary caste system was dominate in 1959[0], Thinking that some long standing social construct is simply going to evaporate is a bit naïve.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_class_in_Tibet
Scanning these excellent posts for a key factor keeping people obese and indoors both, is the 'beware of outside = crime' factor chillingly repetitive in its second guessing of the actual risks by omission [ yes, across town two persons have been wounded by gunfire, but our friendly chitchat about this incident on our news team once telling you 1815 how to milk the cows without smallbox blisters, now inform you to tune in the next movie WITHOUT checking your garden for moth larvae and dissuading you from meeting up in a nearby forest path to get a 1931 evening meal in some forced sort of violent way, in favor of which new topping is all the rage... / but I meant to say, the CRIME keyword is not yet mentioned so if you'll pardon my long-read method of posting, it should be a block by block factor and as such locally dialed back to the 1930's by concerned parents rather than 'concerned parent-which TOPPING fuels our dinnertime and which FUEL octane fuels our transport to same before our next MOVIE and which channel is the latter on as we channel our wish to walk outside into a turn of the TV guide to which channel is more TASTY to feed our overweight, once, now obesity, always, cultural astigmatism which is all the snowflakey... /

just leaving this here for non prosperity. As I have been quite in the past guilty of that which I here deride as unhealthy.
you came to this thread largely because Liu is not a random dude on street, he had the nobel peace prize. if you want to argue "I don't care", you need to back yourself up better.

the core issue here is simple: how come such a man who repeatedly made such extremist styles comments in public got awarded the nobel peace prize.
> I don't care one way or the other, it's the Nobel committee's decision who they award the prize to. It makes no difference to me. It doesn't make what he, or any other Nobel Laureate say any more true or worthy of consideration.

Yea. That is what I want to learn. You do not care about the Prize.

> If you want to argue in favor of why some views should never be publicly stated and who is gonna decide what is/is not allowed, go ahead.

It seems that is you want to know about it. Probably I misunderstood you. I have no interest :P. So we can stop here.