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Maybe I misunderstand, but surely Kodu is a fantastic advert for your ideas, and you should be welcoming it? Here's a fun thing to do that is learning and on a platform with which your kids' friends will be familiar.

I can understand that the balance between Halo 3 app types and Kodu app types is the wrong way around from your perspective, but the XBox does make it fairly cheap and simple to understand how the games are written and provides you with the chance to show your kids how the magic tricks are done, so to speak. I'd have thought that was a good thing :-)

Kudos on educating your kids on what you think is important though; I think it's great when people really think through education and put a lot of effort into it.
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It is hard to know exactly what fake work is looking forward, but it is easy looking backwards. Which means you must test your assumptions continually over time. As what was real work in the past can easily turn into fake work. PG's "Alarm Bells" idea seems to be a good start.
HN is like alcohol in that it serves some social purpose, but can also be abused. Since it's a lot more novel, I think we're still evolving, as a community, to find the balance for "socializing responsibly" on the web.
Twitter-based Social Game Echo Bazaar Comes to Facebook. Players Balk.
By that logic, windows is more user friendly then OSX because it is what people already know.

Most of the stuff you would use in bash just works in fish as well, except that fish gives you nice help information when tabcompleting, a better command history that you can use filters on, colour feedback (red = invalid command, green is a-okay) and lots more.

Sure, some people will always stick to what they know, but that does not say as much about user friendliness as it does about resistance to change.
All in all - really happy someone is going after this market. Restauranteurs have no idea where to look for a website. They just ask for the coolest possible website without wanting to pay too much so they end up with all the bells and whistles but done really quickly and badly.

You should wonder why restaurants think they should have a "fancy" website, as opposed to a Facebook business listing with a menu and some pics. A fancy restaurant will want something dark and elegant to communicate that they're not a diner or a fast food joint. Think about this.
I like this idea a lot. In fact, I like the idea so much that I started toying around with a similar idea a few nights ago while contemplating whether or not I had time to go through with the project or not. I decided to hold off a bit as I've got another project I am trying to launch first.

Best of luck to you.
Nice site but it has multiple HTML errors viewable at http://validator.w3.org - especially the blog portion.

It's best to have 100% validated HTML especially when offering to build sites for other people. Some times restaurant owners can be technologically inclined and may check these things out.
This is the book: http://www.amazon.com/Shogun-James-Clavell/dp/0440178002

Perhaps I should put my own referral link in ;)
IANAL, but in the US the relavant date is the invention of the patented item and not the date the patent was granted, so B&N would have to show prior art from many years ago.
New stuff in the .Net space: Scott Gu introducing WebMatrix
We'd like to do one in Python/HTML5, open-source, cloud-based server. Not sure about device interaction though, and can you imagine the sales cycle? Yikes. Are people on HN interested in being part of a project like that? We weren't sure (at ChompStack) that we could get enough developer interest, and it's a big project. We've written touchscreen software for restaurants before, for about 5 yrs.
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Notice how my claim refers to the actual contents of the post, while your response refers to your intentions when writing it. Just trying to help.
I very much like the Apple bite idea with the C, and you're right, I've already made our site so Web 2.0 that what's a little nudge further? :) I'll get in touch with you, thanks.
Anyone know how to open a new tab in OS X Terminal to have the same path as the previous tab?

This is sort of a default behavior in Linux OSs and it's really annoying when you have to `cd` to the working path every time you open a new tab.
7am - 11pm? So do you have make a lot of sacrifices with your personal life? Like girlfriend, wife, family?

Also, why did you decide to act on the whole "professionalism" feedback? Did you just thought it would be fun, or did you notice it was affecting the company?

I envy your drive. Amazing really.
An interesting github project I recently discovered on github has some nice fish extensions, it's called fish-nuggets and you can find it here: http://github.com/zmalltalker/fish-nuggets/

Here's a pic of it showing branch@revision status for svn repositories: http://tweetphoto.com/29802557

It does the same for git repositories as well and some other nice stuff.
Ask HN: Whatever happened to finger?
Recently, one of my clients asked me to program up a way to determine if a user exists on a server (in an e-mail sense) without sending them an e-mail (it's not a spammer, I promise! I get enough Viagra ads, don't really want to contribute to that.) Like a good little programmer, my mind raced to what was available: Finger and SMTP.

Now, I haven't had to do anything like this in years. Back when I last used finger, some e-mail hosts still implemented it. Now, it turns out that not a single one of the servers I tested support it.

So, HN, I ask you: whatever happened to finger?
My personal experience: Sometimes you catch yourself in a state where you keep getting stuck in "fake work" mode no matter how hard you try to be productive. When this happens, take it as a sign that you may be approaching burnout (especially for those who try to cram insane amounts of work into the day), and GO RELAX / HAVE FUN (and don't feel guilty about it). Either way you're going to lose some "real work" time, but at least this way you'll be doing something that will help you refocus and be more productive the next time you sit down to work.
there's a couple of questions here I'd love to get opinions on:
a) is android really winning 'developer mindshare'?
b) if so, why?
Great read! I wish PG starts writing essays that are both short(emphasis on short) and interesting to read as this one.
Not very actionable feedback for your product, but I love the name ChompStack. I just want to say it over and over again.
>But the world has gotten more complicated: the most dangerous traps now are new behaviors that bypass our alarms about self-indulgence by mimicking more virtuous types.

That really resonated with me. Regularly looking at my phone and similar devices for news/stock/random updates provides me an illusion of productivity when it is not much more than self-indulgence.
Playing devil's advocate: the guy who started HN did it to increase productivity in seed applications screening. That's us who took it onto the dark side :)
Thanks for the link...just read the terms and it does not look encouraging.
I couldn't see it either for 15-20 seconds. Must be a bug in human vision with this typeface. I wonder how many letters can be flipped while maintaining readability.
The word you were looking for was emerge.
I was referring to computers having hardware that is 3 times overpriced. Not the iPhone being 3 times more expensive (All phones are subsidized by the carrier so I don't think pricing will ever be an issue for the consumer). Now, I would imagine that ATT does lose a tremendous amount of money on every iPhone it sells opposed to say an equivalent smart phone. But anyway, my point is basically ... the marketing team at Apple has done a fantastic job of selling products at a premium and at selling the Apple experience.

I'm not sure about the Droid/Hero thought. On numerous occasions I have seen other brands of phones being charged by the chargers of older models and even different models. My old Samsung could be charged by the charger of virtually any other Samsung phone. Even if it were a different model. I'm not sure about this, but I wouldn't be surprised if my Evo could be charged by another charger meant for another HTC device.

But no knock on Apple ... tremendous company ... tremendous story. It's just that some of their practices don't seem to be as consumer minded as some would like.
Great points, and we agree wholeheartedly. Most of our cold calls to restaurants have terminated in "We're just not interested" or "We have a website." Wish there was a way to take all of this feedback and channel it directly to them (or perhaps we need to work on our sales pitches? :) )

Like the Chinese restaurant idea. Wonder how receptive they'd be to changing their phone order system.
Doing headless integration testing really is superior. Requiring one machine per concurrent test isn't scalable. Sure, works great for your weekly/daily test. But if you want integration testing to run at every commit it's not going to work.

I've done some experimenting with Celerity (headless integration testing with JS support) and it works quite well. Can even emulate CSS and it scales much better. One thread becomes one test. So running 50 tests in parallel on one machine is no problem. This really is a requirement for me if you want it to work with CI.

Celerity is based on Watir (similar to Selenium) and Ruby.
See http://celerity.rubyforge.org/
Holy crap icons are apparently affordable from iconshock, as are logos! I was imagining like $1000+ for a logo, never having commissioned one myself. Thanks!
I am pretty sure you would have to do no exercise at all for that to be true.

One of the benefits of exercising is that once you start doing it regularly, you start to miss it when you stop it. If I don't go for a run every day, I feel it, despite the fact that I hate running.
Here's the link and the header:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sec...

Inventors: Zehr; Gregg (Los Gatos, CA), Whitehorn; Symon J. (Los Gatos, CA)
Assignee: Amazon Technologies, Inc. (Seattle, WA)
Appl. No.: 11/277,893
Filed: March 29, 2006
IMHO this sentence:
"And yet I've definitely had days when I might as well have sat in front of a TV all day"

could have been rephrased to be clearer to describe days lost without watching TV but equally unproductive. Its rather subtle to get first time.
A fellow Oberon fan! Wirth has a rare talent for language design, and I cut my compiler hacking teeth on Oberon, thanks to his tiny booklet on the language and its implementation.
China's High-Tech Underclass
But... the Nook existed prior to this patent by >6 months, implying at least a couple years of development prior to the patent. Amazon hasn't made anything with an Eink+LCD. Effectively, Amazon is trying to patent something currently selling. It'd be like my getting a patent, right now, for some major feature of the iPhone 4.
I would have to say that on the whole the time I spend on HN is worth it. I've been able to improve my design, programming, and business knowledge due to the focused content here in a way that I don't think is possible on any other forum.
Right, and you have to be logged in through OAuth to get anything out of the API (As far as I can tell, please prove me wrong though), which really diminishes the value you can get out of the platform as a third party.
A guy I know has a form of dyslexia (though I'm not sure this is the correct word) that makes him initially unaware (for a few seconds) of the difference between E and ∃ (and other vertically mirrored characters)

Imagine the horror of graph theory for him (e.g. ∃x,y E(x,y), etc.)
Oh, so you probably missed the discussion between Debian and Rails two years ago.
Have look there:

http://pkg-ruby-extras.alioth.debian.org/rubygems.html

http://pkg-ruby-extras.alioth.debian.org/upstream-devs.html

The second link describes what is wrong with gems-only approach. See also links at the bottom of the first page.
I learned Chinese because of that damned book.
Delegate.
I won't share dollar amounts but I'll tell you my accounts convert from free trials to paid at an 11.33% rate as of today.
Full-Disclosure, Our Turn
but my guess is that developers are a forgiving lot and if there's a way to be successful, they'd forgive and forget...no?
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Wrt gems/easy_install/whatever, do you realize that these language specific systems are broken by design and interoperating with them is not exactly easy?

Yet I deploy a wide range of services into production with them every day.
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I would think it has something to do with the rise of LDAP, which can authenticate users and return pretty much any piece of information that's on the server(s).
> The most dangerous traps now are new behaviors that bypass our alarms about self-indulgence by mimicking more virtuous types.

The flip-side is true, too: Many of us enjoy coding so much that it feels self-indulgent, tripping the alarm incorrectly. I've often guilted myself out of coding -- out of getting real work done -- because I enjoy it so much. So while we need to watch out for pseudo-work masquerading as real work, we also need to watch out for real work seeming like too much fun.
An RSS feed would be very useful.
CSS3 @font-face With Bold and Italic
I think I'll stop reading HN and go do something useful!
Truer words have never been spoken :)
They aren't advocating Perl.

P.S. real world device drivers are written Forth. So it's not just optimized for ten-liners.
The HTML5 test doesn't include rejected features in its score. It gives a score based on actual HTML5, and gives a separate number of "bonus points" based on related technologies that make the browser more compatible with others.
You never know. Smart people being smart for smart's sake often create unexpected benefits. Trying to direct them to things with 'demonstrable intrinsic value' mostly pisses them off and makes them less likely to come up with truly revolutionary ideas.

And so long as these people are teaching 300-level classes to undergrads they're definitely doing something of value, even if it's only creating individuals as jaded as yourself (which who knows, may have some value.)
I think /best and /bestcomments go a long way. It would be really nice to have RSS feeds for them and a way to change the time horizon (per month perhaps)!
True, and you can always change your logo later if you change your mind. Many companies alter their logo down the line, but my first impression of your site was very positive.
I'm sensing that Roman's Flask project was born out of frustration with people not getting his Werkzeug and Jinja2 projects - probably because of bad marketing. On 1 April he created a silly little microframework and did all the right marketing tricks (flashy website, code on github, references to "ninja coders" etc.). It was supposed to be a joke, but upon seeing how much interest the project got he went ahead and started glueing these components together properly (that's Flask). Werkzeug was a marketing failure but Flask builds upon these mistakes. The documentation is good, the name is excellent and he's attracted attention through GitHub.

I'm waiting for an excuse to try this project out :)
> Whereas if you start trading derivatives, you can lose a million dollars (as much as you want, really) in the blink of an eye.
> ...
> Investing bypasses those alarms. You're not spending the money; you're just moving it from one asset to another. Which is why people trying to sell you expensive things say "it's an investment."

"Investing" in derivatives is like buying million dollars in lottery tickets.

Same way you could "invest" in forex or short do stock trading daily.

You are not investing while doing those things. You just happily buy risk who someone with more wit and better ways of estimating it is selling.

If I were to say how fortunes are lost I'd point to gambling. And, yes, gambling includes "investing" in risky things you actually know about no more than the person who is selling them. And I'm talking about actual knowledge, not about your gut feeling and things you think you know better.
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Either my eyes are playing tricks on me, or this thing is now faster at rendering HTML than chrome.
We used Amiando for the Frozen Rails conference (http://frozenrails.eu) and we were pretty happy with their service.
I originally thought this was about personal availability. It isn't, but it prompted some interesting ideas about being mindful about how open I am to interruption, and the value of my attention. Perhaps I need to think about what my priorities are and think of some strategies to make it easier to keep them in the face of client/colleague interruptions.
Step one of the process was repeated demands for verification, re-verification and re-re-verification, which in my book is harassment; there's a level of verification that's reasonable to protect against fraud, and there's a level of verification which adds nothing to the protection and serves only to frustrate.

Step two was "you don't want to play our game? Fine, we'll lock up your money". That's extortion, plain and simple. Given the reported background behind it, there is nothing reasonable about it. And no matter how much good work they may do in other cases, it provides no excuse for the conduct described in this case.

Or, more succinctly: there's a very good reason why Paypal has such an abysmal reputation, and it's not because they're portrayed unfairly in cases like this one.
The #pocoo irc discussions are logged and available online for all to see. Why don't you say what your nick is and people can look at what happened. The guys who usually hang out on #pocoo certainly aren't ignorant, but then you may have been online when none of the regulars were around and could have been dealing with a casual visitor.
I read this in a book about maths and biology called "Games of Life" and I was amazed that this had never come up despite reading and playing with the game quite a lot. Very cool.

The actual implementation of the machine would run so slow that it is infeasible to do anything with it, but just the possibility is mind-boggling.
"Why should I reinforce to my children, from an early age, that videos and such are fun and learning is not fun; ..."

That's my question. By banning something with an iron fist, that is exactly the lesson you are teaching. You are putting video games into the same category as drain opener and power tools.

The lesson needed is that there is a time and place for everything, and that deliberate control and planning of activity is valuable. Self-control is learned by practice, not by having a helicopter parent prevent the opportunity to make the choice.

And anyway, planning and self-control are mainly driven by the maturation schedule of the brain. Before age 11 or so (in Caucasians), the frontal lobes simply are not active enough to accept much logic. After that age, the ability to plan and focus concentration develops almost automatically. (One school even did an experiment where math was not taught until that age. There did not appear to be significant bad effects.)

"These days, media is designed to be sticky and most media is driven by advertisements, ..."

You have confused cause with effect. Most content is appealing because people who make unappealing content go broke and stop making it. Survivor bias means that those who sing for their supper have a tendency to create content based on emotional appeal rather than abstract notions of value, and this is equally true for textbook authors, architects, and medieval bards.
But "we cover real news" is just a distraction from the fact that their own policy for citing the works of others is vastly different than what they expect when others cite their works.
In 1946, perhaps, in 1950? 1955? 1960? 1970? no. At that point, 5, 10, 15, 30 years after the fact the idea that Japan had not lost the war, the war was still going, and yet they had not reconquered the Phillippines doesn't pass the smell test.
The Ruby community is probably not interested in dealing with distro packages. I.e. having to get people in their forums asking about some ancient Debian stable version that's no longer supported.
When I look through the new features spotlighted (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/beta/features/), it seems to me that the vast majority are already in Chrome, some copied directly from it (tabs on top).

I'm genuinely curious why that is. Options I can think of are a) they are spotlighting features that take away a perceived edge that Chrome has, b) they really are playing feature-catch-up and letting other browsers determine the roadmap, or c) some features (the web console?) are far more ambitious than I've given them credit for.

Can anyone shed some light on what is really going on here?
And surfing in the internet for the latest and greatest is one my biggest time waster. Although knowing it trying to avoid it, somehow time just clicks by so quickly reading too many articles.
Israeli pupils win global science competition
Update: Just got the reply, there will be Video. Yay!
Why Chinese? They're in Japan.
As msg points out, the patent was _submitted_ in 2006. That's the date that matters for determining "who was first?".

Also, you don't have to actually create the product to receive the patent for it. The idea is that the patent protects your right to build said product, without worrying about a faster competitor beating you to the punch.

I'm not saying I agree with how the patent system works, but how I understand it, Amazon's patent isn't affected by any product released after they submitted the patent request.
Are you trolling?

The three highlighted features are 'new addons manager,' webm support, and fixing the :visited privacy issue. NONE of these are in any released Chrome, although the early early preview of Chrome 6 has WebM support.

Of the three UI elements highlighted, tabs on top is the only one in Chrome (or did I miss the Chrome button in some developer preview?).
In this context it almost certainly means "We filled 68 tables for you this month. That has obvious monetary value to you. Pay us and we will continue delighting you."
I think that's a very good point. I got more done when living in a dorm room than any other time in my life. Even if it's just screwing around with a project idea at a dev house meetup, I get tons more work done (and have a lot more fun) than if I was at home.

Maybe there's some way to harvest the chaotic energy of HN so that people aren't just wasting time, but rather contributing to something. Maybe if there were some way to do massive collaborative projects that could be embedded into HN, where users could each contribute to building part of a larger system or structure. I don't think this is a new idea, but it's really only ever worked when started organically via sites like reddit or 4chan; maybe it can be done in a structured form.
Developers criticise Google's Android Market
Beer Me, Robot
How does Flask compare with web.py?