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The answer to all this is: "use Qt".

"But camgunz, I only know JavaScript"

That's cool! Look into QML.

"But camgunz, I only know X"

That's cool too! Qt4 has a truly ludicrous number of language bindings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_language_bindings_for_.... Qt5 has a fair number too: https://wiki.qt.io/Language_Bindings.

"But camgunz, I need an embedded browser"

I agree, separate windows are for savages. Qt has you covered with Qt WebBrowser.

"I need a native look and feel across all platforms"

Well, that's a pipe dream. BUT, you can get closer with Qt than anything else. Google for some screenshots.

"I need a bananas style but I don't want to write any code"

Qt supports CSS-like stylesheets!

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The web isn't a good application platform. Sure we could (and have been) spend billions of engineering hours and years to get it up to speed with exactly what we have now, but that's obviously a bad idea. We can figure out zero-install and sandboxing, but we just don't need to shoehorn everything into JS, weird APIs like localstorage and webrtc, and the DOM. We just don't need to.
Its the "good cop, bad cop" routine.
If you're worried about the GPLv2 and ASLv2 incompatibility, why not dual license as ASLv2/GPLv2 then instead of ASLv2/MIT?
Two videos that are (IMO) relevant:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3j_RHkqJc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bryXdyv8lOA
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You do have to play around a bit with the concentration though--some of the flavors have a narrow range where they taste good and not too subtle nor too overwhelming and fake. We made a pretty decent clone of a pumpkin spice latte, plus some other dessert-type stuff.
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As a Tamil, I am surprised by so many such things that I come across about our ancestors. No wonder we take a lot of pride in our culture, sometimes to the extreme.
Holy smokes, I can't believe how serendipitous this is. I am 5 minutes into a Pluralsight course on Angular 2.

I really like the idea of Typscript, but now... now I guess back to the drawing board on what to learn.
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Take a second look. It's just another dialect of Latin.
So they can explode at any time from now and possible end us? Is that how I should wrap my head around it?
The problem is not only the level, it is the rate of change.
AFAICT this is overstating the patent-related aspects of ASL. It doesn't require a patent grant or nullify any parents you hold, or even prevent you from suing others over misuse of those patents. All it does is provide mutually assured destruction: if you sue someone over the use of your patent within this software, then you forfeit any legal protection from others who have patents within this software. This is extremely company-friendly, because companies are the ones who tend to go around suing over patents, and also the ones who feel compelled to stock up on patents to use defensively.
"Yeast can't make metaphors, can't understand that they're in a fermenting bottle with limited food and increasing amounts of excreted toxins, and couldn't imagine or implement plans to do anything about that situation even if they could comprehend it. Humans can do all of those things - except, so far, muster the collective political will to take meaningful steps."

you mean the thing that allows any of those other things you listed matter at all?

and with all those abilities, it may make no difference, so there's no evidence that the difference in intelligence between yeast and humans is sufficient to save us. then why would 20 more points do it? and if yeast survive but people don't, what then? the point is in both the case of the yeast in the bottle and the human case our drive for survival kills us when we move into sudden abundance. greater average intelligence would just bring that abundance on faster.

since we can't seem to steer this ship, we're at the mercy of the currents. despite all our metaphors and plans and concern about global climate change we don't seem able to do anything. is there much of a difference in carbon footprint between your average walmart shopper and your average graduate student, concern notwithstanding?
The problem isn't CO₂. The problem is the roaming hordes of zomb^H^H^H^Hpeople displaced by rising ocean levels and subsequent collapse of civilized society. Mars doesn't have that :).
>Once you've run somebody else's binary, you're already conferring significant trust on them.

This is the "you agreed to a date, that means you agreed to go all the way" argument.

Even when a someone extends trust or tentative trust, that doesn't mean they should be expected to give up the right to maintain control of that choice at each successive moment in time.

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Easier to hack 5%. The rest are probably hackable too (no secure software exists) just takes more effort.
Ask hard questions. It is important to understand the boundaries of a candidates knowledge. I don't trust company that lets me off easy, it feels like they aren't actually looking for a good fit.

Asking for a prepared presentation is a nice alternative to take home coding (If applicable to your work culture).

Phone call trumps videochat every time. Our communication isn't strengthened by a video chat unless there are prepared visual aids, don't solve problems that don't exist.

Let me know who I will be meeting during 'in person' interview. What teams are they on.

Live coding with a current employee is a good practice. Keep problems small, and loosely specified.
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If you knew exactly what you wanted, I suppose you could probably get it from Sigma Aldrich.

However, it will be listed as something like "isoamyl acetate" and not "banana flavor", so you would need to know exactly what you want. Also, make sure you get an edible/food grade version!
I'm not sure that the issue is with Upwork itself. I have been a long-time Odesk user, almost since day 1, and have sourced many, many freelancers from there. Currently, I'm pretty much done with Upwork (and related platforms). I have developed over the years a solid, quick, and effective method to screen candidates involving Skype interviews and coding tests.

The level of fraud is now such that it is no longer cost effective or interesting to use random freelancers. The majority of clients for freelancers on Upwork are non-technical, and it is almost impossible to convince freelancers that you are, in fact, a highly technical client. The typical project progression is that a few days we see useful work, after which there is a steady decline in quality and usefulness of code. Frequently, freelancers ignore technical or functional requirements.

Overall, it is mostly a process that appears designed to maximise billable hours whilst looking busy and producing code that doesn't actually achieve anything. This nicely circumvents dispute processes, since they can claim they did, in fact, produce working code. The fact that it took too long isn't anybodies problem except yours. General quality of code produced is typically atrocious. Rating is a meaningless metric, since the majority of clients are non technical and will base their rating on things like presence, pleasant to converse with, and final result (something that mostly does what they asked for) and typically doesn't take into account quality or if in fact this was produced at a reasonable pace.

There are so many ways to scam clients, and there are no effective ways to stop these scams. When lucky, you sometimes come across good developers that do a good job and don't mess around. I hold on to those for as long as I can, but eventually everybody moves on at some point.

I'm done with this model. It has become too expensive, too risky, and highly unpleasant overall.
Except something did change, and it wasn't JS's fault. If it wasn't the code, it was the environment (time, variables, FS, system resources, etc.).
I was with you until the non-sequitur about Wayland. What exactly is shitty about Wayland? It is way less bloated than X11.
I suppose there's a correlation between country of residence and education/communication skills.
Unfortunately this will probably make people forget about global warming. People need concrete signs right before their eyes to take action.
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In the UK we've had laws requiring common access to telecoms infrastructure since at least the early 2000s, and its had exactly that effect. In almost any home you have a choice of a dozen or so providers, ranging from super cheap basic providers who'll give you a few megabits and a stingy data allowance right up to business specialists who can provide multiple redundant lines on different backbones with 4G backup, generally without any sort of installation being required because. We've also got a big cable provider who run their own lines and give pretty competitive pricing because of all the other options.
If reducing emissions means harming economies and impoverishing and killing people, then if skeptics are right, "you" will have caused needless destruction.

If preventing climate change didn't cost anything, then nobody would be against it. But it will be pretty expensive and somebody will have to suffer to pay for that. That somebody probably doesn't want us to prevent it because they may well lose out, even in the long term.

Do you use any power generated by coal? Do you use a car or bus? Do you eat meat? If you do any of those things, it means preventing climate change is too expensive for you.
Typescript works quite well with React, redux etc.
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Is ironic just yesterday I read almost the same thing but trashtalking pseudofunctional programming in js, declarative components, microframeworks and dependency hell over all-in solutions, etc etc...

The reality is you don't really have any idea of what future of web development is, as anyone has. The community is not oriented in any way... rather we are probably in the time of biggest uncertainty and most frequent change of ideas of the whole web dev history.

Honestly the only and best suggestion I can make is "ignore everyone who try to say * this is how you should do things, the rest is shit * ", for the big part of the time they are just trying to self-justify an over investment on their own solution (or worst, ego), telling themselves they for sure had understood everything and the others are just wrong or "not there yet". They don't even know that they don't know.
The design of Wayland might be (and I believe is) superior to X11. Although as every piece of software on this planet in first years of its existence it will be incomplete, buggy and not compatible with all the other things that already exist. For some people this might be shitty compared to mature software, that is buggy but at least most of it's bugs are already known and worked around.
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If you've ever played city building games like Rome, Anno, The Settlers, Banished this will be familiar. They encoded the dynamic of number of people, increasing needs and critical mass well imho.
Given that the major appeal of Twitter is the ease with which you can reach effectively unlimited numbers of people, I doubt that would be a very popular move.

It might be more feasible to charge people for following other people.

Or just offer a straightforward ad-free experience (maybe with some extra features) for a set monthly fee. Which is what I've wanted all along, but has the disadvantage of fracturing the userbase you can sell ads to and making Twitter a less valuable platform for advertisers, so they'd need a decent conversion rate to offset that.

I now absolutely hate this thing where the internet is made of free stuff and people won't pay for it. I know a load of people who practically live on Facebook but the idea of paying for it horrifies them. Do not understand that.
That part you neglect to mention are those who advocate for making changes at the federal level politically that would actually create the solutions required for the problem versus the type of people who vote in folks like Donald Trump who actively deny the problem exists.

Given that consideration, the core of your premise is false.
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"Who thought it was a good idea to make Angular 2 incompatible with Angular 1?"

This is so much discussed that I am not going to answer that. Google it.

But according to the latest StackOverflow survey [1] Angular is still bigger than you think: AngularJS 44.3%, React 19.5%

[1] http://stackoverflow.com/insights/survey/2017/
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Good to read this comment because I definitely feel this way too. Angular 2 just made things weird and confusing for everyone, experts and newbies.

Even though there are some things common but the differences are just too many. It would have been better if it was just release under a different banner altogether.
Only one data point but I interviewed with Toptal a while back. They really focus on algorithms at the interview. I understand why--it is a scalable way to rate software developers. However, many many software problems in my experience don't require knowing how to implement algorithms, but rather which libraries make sense and an ability to map business problems to software solutions.

So, in short Toptal seems like they do some good screening, but may be optimizing for a certain kind of developer.
Angular is a mess but typescript is alive and kicking on its own, even with react.

Personally I'm one of the apparently rare breeds that hate angular but loves typescript. I wish there were more of us.

They're really in different realms and please don't make them part of the same whole. Typescript is a transpiler but the transforms it does are designed to mimic accepted JavaScript idioms.

When I'm debugging typescript it makes sense, it looks almost like JavaScript written by somebody that knows what they're doing.

Contrast that to Babel, Closure compiler, and countless others that produce "JavaScript" that reads more like assembler.

Typescript is easy to make back into human readable JS and it's equally easy to slowly transform your JavaScript into typescript.

It's the most forward and backward compatible language transformer I've ran across so I don't appreciate you shitting on it :)
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Mattermost (and Telegram?) call the electron-based apps "desktop apps", which is I feel is a nice tradeoff: not native but not browser.
Also, I noticed the actual inscription on top is pronouncing something else that i cannot understand. Only the bottom inscription (translation) is comprehensible for me. I think the bell has only the top section sentence inscribed in it. Can you comprehend the top one?
1%, but he's outperformed the usual indexes, vanguard, S&P etc by a considerable amount, so it has worked thus far.
There are a lot of jobs for which those overpriced Toptal primadonnas are just an overkill.
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It says nothing more than Angular has a lot more documentation. Perhaps because Angular has a lot more features.
Not sure if you know but in native APIs like Qt you are not limited to the built in components, if you need a custom widget you usually use OOP inheritance and override some methods like paint, maybe hook into some events and you get a custom widget. If you want a fancy button(that you can't get by tweaking existing properties or using styling) you inherit the Button class and add your stuff.
What I hare in Web is that there is not a reusable gridView/listView that is optimized, you always have to create your own or find one specific for the framework/library/thing you use in this project.
Until people undeniably feel it they will not believe they are the problem. It takes a lot for someone to change their minds in the face of "criticism".
Yeah come on. It's launch day, its not easy.
It's really hard to get the scale of the domes from the photos. Are the top photos 30cm across or 100m?
Oh, yea, I don't game anymore I should have mentioned. That is done. I am only doing positive things now.

I'm not even sure what I want to do or what I can do well. I know I'm good at pattern recognition and reading other people. My math skills aren't super strong, but I think I could change that. My english/writing potential is very high, but I haven't spent enough time writing to be skilled. I don't know if I would like it.

I think I need to force myself to experiment for short periods of time like the scientific method and evaluate after, not during.

I think part of my problem is that I've never learned to work for the sake of work itself. Everything in my life has always been to prove that I am 'good enough', to prove against feelings of unworthiness that pervade me, to beat the other person. But when it comes to beating myself, I suppose I have never given myself enough respect to attempt that. And it's unfortunate because that's the only worthwhile endeavor.
Meh, it says something, but not a lot.

Some tools are harder than others, sometimes because they accomplish more.

Imagine if you'd said "one day into learning about homeopathy, I was able to prescribe homeopathy-things, but after 4-5 weeks of med school I was still taking classes about blood cells."

I'm not actually defending Angular as such, because I am super ignorant about it. Perhaps Angular is a byzantine mess. But there are many great tools which do not have smooth onboarding procedures, which are still valuable because of how they work on complicated projects.

Of course, the BEST tools make easy things easy and hard things possible. Angular might (or might not) make hard things possible, but I think everyone agrees it's not particularly good at making easy things easy.
> In my experience using last year's darling framework instead of this year's is an excellent way to go. The codebase is stable and full-featured, the plugin ecosystem is rich, the documentation is extensive, and stackoverflow is already filled with accepted answers.

I'm slowly coming round to the idea of committing to Angular for these reasons, just as HN commenters seem to be increasingly talking about React as the current Big Thing.
They get the latest bugfixes, and they don't need to worry about all this downloading installers rubbish that seems so last decade.

They could also distribute Dropbox through the Mac App Store, then they wouldn't have to sneak in SUID binaries and run background processes with launchd. As an added bonus, Dropbox would be sandboxed.

Before someone says it can't be done: the OneDrive app is
installed via the Mac App Store, is sandboxed and provides Finder integration. (Yes, the Office badge would probably be a problem, but that is a hack now anyway.)

Edit: that sounded too negative. I agree that this benefits a lot of users, I just wanted to point out that an App Store version would be even better.
Actually continental drift explains a variety of phenomena that have been falsely attributed to human exploration: English is spoken in New York, for example, because the british isles used to be connected to New England. Even the names reflect this: when the landmasses separated Queen Victoria proudly viewed them as a geological projection of the British sphere of influence and christened her new islands "New England" "New York", "New Hampshire" etc.
No tool, in particular on top of email, will solve the lack of a proper process. Tools like these will maybe work for some time, but it will be a mess in no time.

GTD has been working for me for 10 years now, with simple lists. I think a part of it's strength is that the GTD-framework includes a method to "start over again" after your system gets inevitably cluttered.
Frameworks are also about comprehensiveness. The start of the learning curve is not the sine qua non. That always reminds me of those complaints that writing a "Hello World" application in your GUI library of choice requires plenty of boiler plate etc., but you're probably not going to spend your developer life doing that. Often benefits for larger apps aren't obvious for the neophyte.

This is really aggravated that -- as opposed to native GUI libraries -- frontend requirements vary wildly. You might just need it to embellish some elements (i.e. the jquery level), you might also use it to build some large desktop app replacement.

Which is why I take most comparisons with a large grain of salt. In this regard, "JS framework XYZ sucks/rules" is the new "PHP is great/awful".
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"You talk about "losing control" - why not spin your own Dropbox?"

I agree that auto update is a net positive and most people will be fine with the arrangement. But your line of argument is flawed . by this logic anyone who wants to enquire and wantto have an informed discussion on health he /she should go study medicine ? Right !
Look into polymer. Let's you do server side rendering then use custom web components for the widgets needing interactivity.

I found building sites this way refreshing.
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> Translated, it says "Muhayideen Baksh’s ship’s bell".

I like language, and this inscription makes me wonder. Why write on a bell that it's a bell? I'd be less surprised if the bell had said "Muhayideen Baksh’s ship".

I mean, I get that school buildings say "School" because otherwise it's really just a building. But a bell? Isn't that a bit like writing "Headmaster's Office Door" on the headmaster's office door?

I wonder whether maybe it was just an artsy kind of joke. A bit like how in import stores you can buys forks that say "FORK" on the handle.

I now imagine the crew on that ship looking up to the bell every once in a while, grinning, thinking "that Baksh fella is a tough one but at least he has some sense of humor".
Agriculture is absolutely nothing compared to other sectors in California. They are at 2% of gross state product. So yeah. "cut 'em off". 2% of our GSP and using all the water because they have family/historical water "rights".
You should try ClojureScript. Much simpler tooling (native tooling on top of Google Closure), nice integration of server and client side code.

We are not quite at the point of using NodeJs on the backend normally (and honestly the JVM is 100x better) but you can share the language.

You want get a django or rails like app at the moment.