skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
You'd be surprised. I bet my socks that half of the people who make these arguments simply haven't lived in a world where they can exist without a car. They just can't imagine how it is possible because they are so embedded in a reality where cars are vital to life and it's hard to imagine outside of it.
new jobs will be created just like they always have been

I think that hypothesis is what Bill Gates is questioning. The rate of change is far quicker than anything we've seen before, so using historical examples of how jobs have been created when technology puts people out of work as evidence of what will happen is grossly flawed. There's a possibility that we won't invent new jobs in time. We should think about what that means.
> How can we get the labor participation rate (62% and dropping) back to the pre-recession levels, as we fight both aging and automation.

You don't? You use automation to deliver consumer excess so people don't have to work anymore. The problem is not the automation and job loss; its who is capturing the benefits (ie corporations and shareholders).

Slavery is wrong (communism). Not allowing the patenting or copyright of automation or algorithms is just fine (socialism).

Note: In my scenario, I'm not taking your ability to operate you own automation or code away; I'm simply removing artificial government restrictions on its use and distribution. What the patent and copyright office giveth, they taketh away.

Also, creators are going to create even if they're not permitted to reap outsized rewards from their creations.

EDIT: Since HN throttling has kicked in and I can't reply directly:

> Limiting the returns means limiting the risks people are willing to take.

@skookumchuck: If your basic needs are met, what risks are you taking? How is it different than founders who come from rich families so a startup has no risk?

The more people we can meet the basic needs of (again, with automation), the more people who can take "shoot the moon" risks safely.
A varying magnetic field produces an electrical field.

A varying electrical field produces a magnetic field.

Therefore if you produce either a varying electrical field or a varying magnetic field, you will generate the other, which will then propagate out; this is EM radiation.

I only did a quick read of the paper, but this looks like they are generating a standing wave (think like a guitar string, where the amplitude of motion is fixed at any point along the string) with a wavelength much larger than the size of the room; this lets them capture the electrical field in capacitors in the center of the room while still having a moving magnetic field throughout the room, thus effectively separating the two, which allows for a moving magnetic field (which the receivers can convert to an electric field) without having a high-magnitude electrical field in the free space of the room.
Disclaimer: work for Citus, but am not a lawyer, nor an executive.

There's some additional information at https://www.citusdata.com/faq under "How do I license Citus Data Products?".

I hope that clarifies the intent of using AGPL somewhat?
>Which existing neuromorphic computers achieve 10^14 ops/s at 20 W? If you compare them to GPUs, those "ops" better be FP32 or at least FP16.

The comparison is of 3 bit neuromorphic synaptic ops against FP8 pascal ops. That factor is important (as it means that the neuromorphic ops are less useful), but it turns out to be dwarfed by the answer to your second question:

> Also, you forgot to tell us what is that "extremely concrete reason why current neural net architectures will NOT work with the above optimizations".

this is rather difficult to justify in this margin. But the idea is that proposals such as those above (50 Tops) tend to be optimistic on the efficiency of the raw compute ops. But these proposals really don't have much to say about the costs of communication (e.g. reading from memory, transmitting along wires, storing in registers, using buses, etc.). It turns out that if you don't have good ways to reduce these costs directly (and there are some, such as changing out registers for SRAMs, but nothing like the 100x speedup from analog computing), you have to just change the ratio of ops / bit*mm of communication per second. There are lots of easy ways to do that (e.g. just spin your ops over and over on the same data), but the real question is how to get useful intelligence out of your compute when it is data starved. This is an open question, and (sadly), very few ppl are working on it, compared to say low-bit-precision neural nets. But I predict this sentiment will be changed over the next few years.

Edit for below: no one is suggesting 50 Top/w hardware running alex net software to my knowledge (though would love to hear what they are proposing to run at that efficiency) . Nvidia among others are squeezing efficiency for cv applications with current software, but this comes at the cost of generality (it's unlike the communication tradeoffs they're making on that chip will make sense for generic AI research), and further improvements will rely on broader software changes, esp revolving around reduced communication. There are a lot of interesting ways to reduce communication without sacrificing performance, such as using smaller matrix sizes, which would reverse the state of the art trends.
If you are telling the truth that you haven't used it in many years then you will be fine -- ultimately. Of course, if you've tweeted/posted from it recently that won't work, and you could end up in detention for lying about it. But on the whole it would be better to take the time to delete that account.
Most people understand that like trading in anything used, you get what you bargain for. The quality varies, prices vary and you risk buying crap sometimes. Don't like that? Pay a bit more and buy extended warranty or precertified cars.

To sell your car, there's KBB, carmax, cars.com and any dealer you want to buy a car from.

Beepi was just one of the many options (no hassle no haggle). However, instead of being a marketplace like cars.com, it took ownership of the transaction probably with hopes to take a bigger chunk of the transaction but effectively became a dealer. Car dealer margins are like 2%. At a 5x multiple, it would be worth 10% of Sales.
SQL is an abstraction over relational algebra. Relational algebra is, for the most part, easy to grasp. You can use it to define a query tree trivially.

Any tool that can map to that query tree has the same level of abstraction as SQL.

Repeat after me, SQL is nothing special. Its semantics are extremely limited. Nothing it does can't really be done by LINQ or a similar DSL that maps to relational algebra operators.
It is my understanding that you already can run an impressive amount of Windows software (I think including MS Office) under Linux using Wine. That doesn't seem to help the popularity of Linux very much.
How big is "hello world"
Based on my experience working at drivemotors.com, many people with low credit are totally fine with entering into loan agreements with very high interest (9-12%) for 72 months or longer with little to no down payment.
By that logic, we should tax cars, computers, calculators.

The owners already pay taxes though. Why should they pay additional tax for using robots?
A very interesting book to to gain a clear understanding: "Killing the Host" by Michael Hudson

http://michael-hudson.com/2015/09/killing-the-host-the-book/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH8FWrbzxEs

Almost everything Mr. Gatez does is wrong and became a big problem for humanity - Windows, his investments in GMOs and atomic power and US pharma companies that are blackmailing poor countries - with this piece the most important thing he does: justify tax on work as something good. Sure, a few percent of taxes are used for public wealth (good thing!), but the biggest part nowadays is extracted and transformed into profits for rich individuals and companies.

As democratic control of how taxes are used seems to be of no interest for the public, the system that was built for more participation is transformed into a profit-extracting machine for international criminal organizations.

But maybe the robot tax idea can trigger a general discussion about what should be taxed and what not. Please add the book by Mr. Hudson to these discussions.
This is going to make peoples lives worse. People who still need to drive are going to drive, but will instead end up paying more.

> That’s because most people, correctly, can’t imagine any time soon when they won’t need to use a car for most—even all—of their daily trips. As a practical matter, the fact that for seven or eight decades the entire built environment and most transportation investments have been predicated on car travel means that we can’t quickly move away from auto dependence.

So, let's build better public transportation (light rail, subways, buses / self-driving buses) or other solutions (bike lanes / roads, affordable housing near commerce) before we start making life harder for people. Once we've reached a state where there are convenient options then we should enact such taxes and fees, not before.
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> these are, unlike design patterns, very well-defined mathematical objects

IMO naming these programing constructs after their arcane mathematical roots is toxic to the advancement of the field.

OO design patterns do not have mathematical foundations, but that does not make them arcane or toxic.

> you shouldn't use such a broad brush

Probably not, I agree.
Alright, so we should continue to support engineering for socializing loss due to pollution, disenfranchizing the poor or cyclists or others and subsidize it?

That's the entire point of the linked article, less demonization, more letting those who take pay the just price for what they take.
Neglecting on maintenance isn't great advice if people are looking for ways to get more out of their vehicles. Nearly every car around will need a lot more than fluids and filters every 120k miles.
Should the same have been done when calculators made human calculators unemployed?
Hadoop is Falling
I learned not long ago that fresh meat is not really good; it has to be held for some time to reach its best point.

Few centuries ago it was even a delight to let the meat "rot" a little more.
Exactly. Scalping exists because the ticket prices are lower than the marginal utility to the fan. Raise ticket prices, and there will be less scalping.
High rent in the cities seems more like an example of basic economics than a problem worthy of attention. It's a simple supply vs. demand situation. The only way you're going to reduce rent in the city is to build more city for people to live in, i.e. increase supply. I guess you could use the big guns of government to force property owners to lower their rents, but that is immoral, in my opinion.
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If there's no way to invent jobs then we've reached an utopia where robots do everything.
That sounds very interesting is there somewhere I can keep up with the progress?
> Normally I'm impressed by Bill Gates' thinking, but this seems half-baked.

I would submit that that has more to do with the summarizing/simplifying/editing done by Quartz to represent Gates' views on the topic in 1:43.
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why on github and not on like... medium?
It's rare to actually need to expand that quickly. If you've created something so easy to copy, you're in a lousy place. Play your own game, differentiate and expand at a reasonable pace.
I think you mean the Wayback Machine. The Payback Machine sounds pretty badass though.
> I have stopped commenting on any tunnel related
> Elon topic due to people refusing to believe my
> experience and expertise when it does not align
> with what Elon Musk and his team of "experts"
> have said or published in their desk studies.

I think you may be misreading the response here. When you write comments in a snarky way (as you did in the parent of this comment) it completely obscures your information to the reader because they respond emotionally to the snark first. I truly believe that the number of people with your experience reading this is probably in the low single digits, so you have a tremendous amount to offer. It is easier to hear it if you put it out there with respect rather than disdain.

Had you phrased it like this

"The challenges are less technical and more in the political side of infrastructure, property and easement acquisition, dealing with spurious suits from third parties, and the ever present complex series of environmental and safety regulations. While I admire Elon's ambition and desire to get things done, these political issues have stymied projects literally for decades, and I can't see even his star power being able to defeat rampant NIMBYism."

It would be easier to hear your expertise in your writing.
BS.

It's a language that can barely express subqueries and query aliases.

Every ORM has shorthand syntax for expressing filters and order by statements that's way better than the SQL equivalents.

It's barely composable. Do you want to build a query dynamically based on a set of conditions. Tough luck, use a query builder that's prettier anyway.

Its syntax is not amenable to autocompletion. Join syntax is ugly on the eyes and hard to indent.

Seriously, let's kill the love for SQL. I'd rather read queries written in EF Codd's original relational algebra syntax (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relational_algebra) rather than embedding the abortion that is SQL in my code.
Zuckerberg removed a line about monitoring private messages from his manifesto
To capture more corporate wealth, also raise corporate taxes to previous levels when unions functioned and the middle-class flourished. Doing so would capture more gains which can pay for vital social services like healthcare, food security and generally provide for less than obscenely-brutal poverty.
I love browsing cars for sale online that are 2-3 years old with <30K miles. They're the best value and like you said the price is just 2/3 of the cost new at the time. People need to realize that a car (even Ferraris) loses anywhere between 35-50% within 3-4 years. Good used cars dealerships with online presence move a TON of inventory everyday. Carsense.com uses the online checkout system from drivemotors.com (I used to work here) and the prices they display on their websites are wild. You can literally buy a car from them without haggling.
I'm really surprised you consider this to be flamebait.
There is that. It rarely happens the day after best before - still perfectly edible if stored right. I've met people who refuse to eat food a few days before the best before so as to completely avoid getting ill. After the best before, it's considered "gone off", just like the use by.
Unless, of course, people want newer engines that are more efficient, want newest technology (carplay / android auto), and want newest safety equipment.

At this point it's maybe not so much that they need one, but that they want one. I for sure don't want to keep cars forever.

Maybe I misread your comment, but keeping a car for 10 years may not be for everyone.
Frankly, I've never understood the real-world utility of ORMs such as Hibernate. As far as I can tell, their purpose is to "abstract away" a database. But why?

SQL isn't hard. Learning database optimization is nontrivial but doable for anyone. Why do we need ORMs? Why is it better to replace a "WHERE ..." clause with ".where(...)"?

My personal impression is that these frameworks were developed for people that know how to write code in some language but don't know how databases work and want something easy instead of learning how databases work. It really feels very lazy to me.

If you have a library or framework thatproperly prevents SQL injection attacks, why use an ORM unless you feel too lazy or scared to learn how to use a database properly?
It makes sense in this specific case, but I do hope it's not a sign of things to come and libraries aren't requiring bleeding edge features.
Interesting. I wish there as a Manning "Racket in Action" book. The problem with a lot of Lisp materials is that they show you the basic constructs and not how to best use them (like you talk about above).
Slowing down Google Fiber doesn't sound good to me, while it probably comes from the same idea.
Firefox, Chrome.
It's an immense amount of time because of urban sprawl and the cars that enable it.
"Guaranteed until xxx" - all brands guarantee their products before the best before.

"Hazardous after xxx" - literally, this could kill you after this date.

The other problem is forcing brands to put "hazardous" on their labels.
In [1] , they build a non-volatile flip-flop out of a ncfet.

[1]section 5.3 , https://www.google.co.il/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http:...
New AT&T “unlimited” plan has no mobile hotspot and costs $100 a month
I think the American mindset in regards to the law and the state itself, especially that set forth by the founding fathers, is that the people are those who make laws and enforce them, so this mindset asks for a revolt to the state as a reply to such acts.
This particular code would benefit greatly from named return values.

For example, BuildStats is defined as returning (* stats, int, error), when it could name those and just use naked returns. In buildInstancesStats, they name the return values but then repeat them again on all 3 return lines instead of just using a naked "return".

Quick intro form the tour with a good example: https://tour.golang.org/basics/7
On top of this is insurance. If you live in NYC it's like paying for a second car.
Uh?

> There was a “gag order” that prevented us from disclosing even the existence of these warrants until now. This was also the reason why we could not update our “Canary”

Seems the exact purpose it was intended for. And they discuss at length why that canary was too broad and how the new one is better.
> Listening is an art. Talking over someone because you’re an expert in an area and they are not is not okay.

That's a nice observation. Trying to prove you're the smartest person in the room during a casual social setting has to be one of the most irritating traits I can think of.

Anecdotal story: I was at a party and commented on a plane flying over us saying 'isn't it so cool something that big can fly?'. Someone drunkenly chimed in giving a 5 minute lecture on the physics of plane flight - an intentionally jargon-filled explanation at that. Everybody in the circle just walked away and 8 years later I still remember that as one of the most obnoxious things I've ever witnessed.
So if you can't afford to live downtown, you should be disconnected from the city altogether, rather than having a reasonable way to get to it?

Sprawl exists because people want to be connected to cities without paying downtown luxury condo rents, and it's the only viable option (considering public school quality, neighborhood safety, etc.) we're being given.
They provide an escape hatch because the language has support for features such as temporary tables, native DB functions and transaction control that are nonstandard and have a hundred gotchas, and are therefore not amenable to implement in an ORM.

I have 30k lines of business logic written for Django that does not use that hatch even once.
Any time I hear about a trend among HN users I ask myself whether the same trend exists among human beings in general.
Car loans are the new house loans?

Is there going to be a car loan bubble crash?
Just what we need, more of our info put on insecure devices to be exploited and used against us later.
No thanks I'll stick with my plain old, non IOT unit thanks. If you really want to help how about making a unit that doesn't need the expensive ripoff strips to work, who knows I might even trade my privacy for that.
Is AT&T not trying to be competitive with Verizon? I see incentive to keep people from switching to Verizon. Even T-mobile is trying to be competitive by changing their One plan.
I instinctively agree with you, but the difference between need and want is a tough one to draw these days. I err on the side of believing that 'need' is a narrow category, comprising of only the things which are necessary for the short-term survival of healthy humans, but others have a broader understanding of the term.
I believe ktRolster may be refering to "Procedural Abstration". The term is used in SICP [1] (the Wizard Book using scheme, previously freshman programming text at MIT).

Abstration can take many forms. But can often be described as "seperating things that change and/or repeat from those that don't", or something like that.

The last paragraph may be a joke, or based on one of the Principles in the O'Reilly Design Patterns [2] book.

[1] https://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/
[2] http://shop.oreilly.com/product/mobile/9780596007126.do
Yes you do know #2 when you start. If I'm working on a cure for (name your sickness) you know there is a market. You're doing it wrong if you don't know #2 when you start. Don't be a solution looking for problem/market see:
Is Your Product a 'Vitamin' or 'Painkiller?'
https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/230736
Paywall workaround
https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=https://www.wsj.com/article...
What kind of things did she write that made that impression on you?
The reason rent in the cities is so high is that people are already renting/buying the available places to rent, so there is a scarcity. It isn't like all these places are standing vacant, waiting for government to force down pricing so people can move in. People have already moved in. The city is fully occupied. All you'd accomplish by forcing property owners to lower their rents, via amoral means I might add, is getting the people who already live there a better deal on their rent. You haven't really solved anything at all, pertaining to the content of this thread, have you?
Depends how many human calculators lost their jobs. If it was a big part of society, then it may have been a good idea.
That is insane. $400/year for sitting on that mess is $400 more than what I will pay for that privilege. My $120 futon bought from Kmart in the 90s has accompanied me on many moves and still works just fine.
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I hate seeing things like this.

As an entrepreneur it's frustrating that I've built a business, in a growing space, $300k ARR, consistent growth, a few employees, no debt and a well defined path to 10x growth that's not built on any (bulshit) models that VC seems to love. And for some reason it's very hard to find funding that's not from Wall Street guys (who love models that earn).

Hey VCs! I can burn less of your money a little slower!! Hit me up!
Respect the ‘Your Honour Test’
Comments like this aren't allowed on HN regardless of how ignorant someone else is, so please don't post them. When someone is mistaken, show them how (and more importantly, the rest of us) by adding information. If you don't want to do that or don't have time, posting nothing is a fine option too.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html

We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13661688 and marked it off-topic.
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It's the opposite of important, thus it might be
Microsoft trying hard to get developers to work on their platform and fail has really become very much fun. Microsoft deserves for being evil. Example: Microsoft does not save history in cmd shell(its so irritating for devs). The height of the cruelty is they aliased the curl and wget by default to its own program(do not remember).
Until we start offering conductive walls as an option in new homes :)
In many if not most vehicles, not replacing belts after their specified age is risking serious damage to the engine. Still I agree that the official branded service is often a ripoff.