skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
They seem to have underestimated the speed at which trolls can ruin everything.

This, of course, is why we can't have nice things.
True, but "playing God" isn't always used as meaning "we should be aware of the benefits", and often used as a cheap scare tactic. I feel that actually analyzing the risks and benefits is a better tactic than trotting out this old cliche. Furthermore, it has connotations of fearing new technology (I can't quite phrase this right, sorry). There are legitimate reasons to be concerned about discoveries such as artificially replicating DNA, but I don't think that "Man vs God" is one of them.

I don't feel that I've phrased this quite as well as I'd like to. If you'd like elaboration or clarification, please ask.
"All we have to do now is construct a few well chosen macros, and we can hide the gory details in something plausible-looking"

If someone left this code for me to read without linking to this article, I would stab myself in the face.
If you believed that was a real comment then You Have Been Trolled.

And here was I thinking "Man, these trolls are way too obvious, they should have gone with something more subtle".
Don't forget that's wholesale price. Retail prices will obviously be higher.
I have a sneaking suspicion that Poe's Law is in full effect here.
PHP Still Rules Server Side Languages
The most effective argument is that it is a "Gateway Drug". There is no proof that weed makes people use crack or heroin but it is a good way to scare the public.
Work is hard, let's go shopping. Is a poor argument. The real issue is the total difficulty of all issues not simply the number of them.

EX: A "major" issue is it's hard to detect if someone is currently under the effects of pot. Because, apparently drug test are designed to detect if you have smoked not if you are currently impaired. However, an officer can do a road side sobriety test without using a breatilizer so it's not a real issue.

Now if there was some sort of bioaccumulation of pot ever time that caused massive issues then that single issue could prevent legalization on its own.
This should play nicely with the new Snap web framework. (I'm giving that a try as we speak.)
> High quality oregano is ~$5 a pound, according to a quick web search.

True, and grapes are 2.99 a pound at the local grocery store. Doesn't seem to explain why a good dinner table wine can be upwards of $100 a bottle.

Never underestimate the power of a mind-altering substance, or the price that people are willing to pay for it.
Casual games make us smarter ?
Honestly? Not really. It's an open forum, I don't think it's really ever good form to tell somebody "hey, you're not supposed to talk about that here." (unless it's spam, in which case, just downvote. Saying "don't talk about that" is off-topic and has been specifically addressed by PG in the past.)

I'm sorry I didn't know that you had an alt account, it's just annoying when people start showing up and trying to dictate how things "should be" to established members of an existing community.
But that's exactly the situation we had in the PC world in the mid-80s, when there were competing GUI environments that ran on top of DOS (Windows, GEM, Visi On). In theory, they could've continued coexisting indefinitely; in reality, network effects meant that one won out and the others died off.

Now, granted, the big difference there was that MS had an advantage over its competitors, since they made the platform everybody was building on. The flip side, though, is that it was possible to install multiple windowing systems on the same PC, so that users didn't have to pick one and stick with it. With cellphones, you can't do that. The closest you come is being able to move your SIM from one phone to another; but you leave all your data behind.
After reading some of the comments on their website I have hard time distinguishing trolls from republican talking points.

Also Poe's Law: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Poes+Law
Yes, it is really magical.

Go, try the live demo http://dev.visualwebsiteoptimizer.com/first_time_ab.php?demo...

Do you think we should blog about the fact that you don't need to do any thing special to load a site into our system?
The prostitutes? They're nothing to write home about.
I agree, but the point is, since school, you learn that headlines are focused to capture people attention. I'm not a journalist, but it appears to be one of the most important things in an article. (It's like advertising, you take the worst case of people's attention.)

Maybe if the HN (edit) title was as you suggested, it wouldn't make the homepage.
He's a colleague of Kevin Warwick, someone who a former tutor of mine described as "a buffoon with a good line in hoodwinking the media into thinking that what he is doing is cutting-edge science". (http://www.wired.com/culture/lifestyle/news/2000/09/38467?cu...)
Did you incorporate? If so, how is ownership currently structured?

You might be able to strike a buyout deal for something other than cash immediately. I'd be really careful about doing this though as it might impact your future chances of fundraising.

I'm not an expert on this sort of thing, and since you mentioned your savings are running out you probably cannot afford to talk to someone who is, but my guess is you're stuck with him. Assuming you are, how can you make the best of it?

If he admits that he's not that good at sales, he's already taken the first step to getting better. That's at least a good sign. Perhaps get him to attend some classes or seminars on salesmanship. Have him review the sales calls he has made and try to figure out where they went wrong.

If you can swing it, maybe even just hire a salesman. Assuming you can't get rid of your partner, you'd rather him do nothing than ruin relationships with potential clients.
It also gets people quickly into a mode of understanding that email isn't, and shouldn't be, considered a method of synchronous communication. There isn't much that bugs me more on a daily 8-5 basis than inappropriate [ab]use of email.
"Winsome" is not an adjective I have ever heard applied to the design of a website. I need to use that more often.
Kurzweil’s Next Book: Creating An Artificial Mind
First, forget about the dozen industry leaders who pledged to you. Also be honest with yourself in the possible future of this product. Odds are you are not the first.

Make sure if this is built you can succeed without their pledges.

Second, research,research,research the idea extensively.

One you have done that do as much work as possible as you can in building it, as far as you can go, this will allow you to see your idea through.

Once you have done that if you are still interested in building it, either

1) ask a coder friend, or find a coder and put them on as co founder

2) outsource the development

If you have no $ than try to produce it yourself no matter what

- non coder
"...but still will keep us with a CEO (him) that I cannot trust professionaly."

If that's truly the case, then you're done as business partners.
I already have to many feeds, If I had to pay for the access to any site I would rather stop reading such site than pay. It would be even better for me since I would waste less time on the internet.
The article is amusing but unfair - it's mostly just selected quotes from contributors to the new site. One could write a similarly far out (and amusing) story about HN or any other social site, by judiciously selecting from amongst the troll comments.
I'd have more sympathy, except that attempting to establish policy by soliciting on a public, unmoderated website is a ludicrous idea to begin with.

It's got about the same validity as Fox News running a radiobutton poll on their website on "Is Obama really a citizen?"
He's definitely looking for attention here, otherwise why post an open letter ?

No doubt. I stated that badly. It would have been better stated as "hadn't looked for any attention" or "hasn't looked for glory".

To me he's not just serious, but also very slow.

Some of us are out in the world trying to provide for ourselves and our families while tending to our passions as time allows. To me it has spoken of admirable dedication. =^)
Although the troll comments are funny, the seriously-meant ones are even funnier:

"both dems and repubs need to gain the trust of the american people both sides have lied to us robbed us and i think both sides are about the money not freedom most of them dont know or care what is in the constitution im not saying all of them but most of the politicians"

Especially the attempts at rhetoric:

"my grandfather told me if you could lie and steal you could be a politician they were write"
A better and detail article you can find here ... http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/opera-9-5-the-next-genera...
You did a good thing. It's an open source project and this is the right way to join forces. The target is ambitious enough.
And there is really nothing wrong with an open letter: anybody who put his hours to open source deserves at least attention, and hopefully reputation. Cheers.
I'm not in the 'all links should be a hideous default RGB blue' camp, but we may as well note that the readers of this site are not similar to the target audience of the average website in terms of technological sophistication.
Upvotes to whoever writes "The Ballad of McCarthy" commemorating this epic quest.
"Playing God" to me is just a turn of phrase, shorthand (and somewhat cliched) for "messing with powers beyond your understanding or ability to control". It has nothing to do with whether one or more gods actually exists and can quite sensibly be used by atheists since it means "assuming powers which should only belong to (hypothetical) gods" rather than "assuming powers which should only belong to that Yahweh dude".
I spent only a few minutes on the site, and after trying to sort "Ideas" by Total Votes, I got this lovely, classic ASP.NET error page:

Server Error in '/' Application.
"Creative destruction can cause temporary economic distress. Layoffs of workers with obsolete working skills can be one price of new innovations valued by consumers. Though a continually innovating economy generates new opportunities for workers to participate in more creative and productive enterprises (provided they can acquire the necessary skills), creative destruction can cause severe hardship in the short term, and in the long term for those who cannot acquire the skills and work experience.
However, in the long-term society as a whole (including the descendants of those that experienced short-term hardship) enjoys a rise in overall quality of life due to the accumulation of innovation - for example, 90% of Americans were farmers in 1790, while 2.6% of Americans were farmers in 1990[9]. Over those 200 years farm jobs were destroyed by exponential productivity gains in agricultural technology and replaced by jobs in new industries. Present day farmers and non-farmers alike enjoy much more prosperous lifestyles than their counterparts in 1790."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_destruction#Downsides_...
Uhm, did you visit the site? I browsed two pages and saw only one suggestion that had both punctuation and was not obviously a troll.
I take yours as a joke. But what's the point of the contract if you decide to suicide yourself? A contract isn't going to stop, it may have the counter effect as well. (This seems like an escape from some local investigations, or something like that, [edit] and I don't know how.)
It's not a source code issue. The GPL prohibits you from adding restrictions to further redistribution. The App store adds the restriction that you're not allowed to redistribute. Seems pretty clean cut to me.
My only question is - if California legalizes, will the Obama administration step in and block the move just like the Clinton administration did with Oregon and medical marijuana?
I've heard from some people that garbage collection is the reason Android scrolling is never quite as smooth as an iPhone. I don't know if that's true, but if it is, I'd rather just manage my own memory. It's really easy once you get the hang of it. Header files are more of a pain to me than memory management is.
I integrated and adminsiter a postfix / sa / clamd / courier system for about 10,000 domains (6 identical blades with local storage for the queues and Global File System GFS once they've been accepted).

SA gets about 95% accuracy on our system even at 5.0

I can also recommend enabling SPF and DKIM see http://www.openspf.org/
Wave bye bye to emails pretending to be sent from yourself to yourself or those annoying "your settings have changed, open this zip file" mails.
growing grapes is easy, but producing an amazing wine is hard, or more in the spirit of HN building a web app is pretty easy but building something people want is hard, I assume the same applies with weed.

It would be pretty lame if the Budweisers and Phillip Morris of the world come in and commoditize Marijuana, and it would put a major dent in some local California economies. But like a fine microbrew or boutique web shop there will always be a market for quality.
Sort by interest and you get ones that are at least more literate. http://www.americaspeakingout.com/browse/questions/in/job-cr...
Apple, Microsoft now on nearly equal footing
It seems like he is asking the wrong people these questions since there is a lot of "I can't really answer that because I don't need to do that". I would rather know the answers to these questions from random folks on the Ruby mailing list that I haven't heard of since their experiences would probably be more fitting for me.
Another sound engineer weighing in - AKG makes some great headphones. You'd be hard-pressed to find a studio without at least a few pairs of AKG 240's hanging around. I suspect they're a bit over $100 regularly priced, but a good sale should get them closer to your budget.

I love my 240s...
I would love to know what element of this website is used in mapping the moon.
I think the open source projects just have more people who would take notice and revert the vandalism of the filthy deletionists.
Milbank chose the comments he quotes for maximum rhetorical effect, not as a representative sample. Mind you, I certainly agree with you that a representative sample wouldn't exactly inspire, either...
That's neat but it doesn't work in non-HTML5 browsers. Should't the goal of something like a registration page be to target as many people as possible?
Are you saying politicians shouldn't listen to the people when developing policy ideas?

If people actually used such a website in good faith then it could potentially produce some useful ideas and allow them to percolate upwards to party policymakers. They shouldn't blindly pick whatever ideas turn out to be popular on their website, but it might bring up some things they hadn't thought of before.
You mixed up the thread :)

I understand that he may have different responsibilities, but that's exactly what I mean. He starts off by talking about finding other 'stale' projects, and how he decided to do it better, on his own time, with a small group.

Now, two years on, from where I'm sitting his project looks indistinguishable from the ones that he is disparaging, so effectively he is undercutting his own project.

If there was any life to this there would be a bit more than this http://foolishmortal.org/list and a guy working his butt off to wean as many users away from facebook, flickr and whatever else there is.

Two years and not yet released to the general public is as good as dead.

The diaspora guys have the opposite problem, so maybe there is a good match here, that's not my call to make, but I'd find it hard to distinguish between this 'slow' project and the 'mostly dead' ones out there.

I understand that laying a solid foundation takes time, but it would have been better to iterate a bit faster and get some user feedback, maybe a designer on board and some more programmers.
your yelp page links to http://bloombeautylounge.com
it's currently suspended by HG
You need to look at the average reply rate instead of the request rate. Requests/sec can be misleading. The replies / sec tell quite a different story. Here they are for pong:

Rails Webrick: 153.9
Rails Thin: 33.3
Rails Mongrel: 90.7
Rails JRuby (glassfish): 3,350
JRuby Mongrel: 31.3
Snap: 11,309
Play: 19,796
Philips made an e-ink reader that does this:

http://gizmodo.com/197227/philips-readius-e+reader-scroll-pr...
I just want to show the power and features of HTML5.Because HTML5 is the future of web. isn't it ?
Ah, I never went to that page.

Rather than a co-host, how about more of an interview with HN folks? Find out about their work/projects/ideas. Maybe mix it up some and do different things until you find what people like. If the content is good and worth the time, then it doesn't really matter who is presenting it to me.
>> If a civilian threatened to kill me if I didn't stop saying something he didn't like, I would regard it as a violation of my free speech rights.

From wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech
Freedom of speech is the freedom to speak without censorship and/or limitation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship
Censorship is the suppression of speech or deletion of communicative material which
may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or inconvenient to the
government or media organizations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_limitations
A statute of limitations is an enactment in a common law legal system

In short, some random dude on the street telling me to stfu doesn't qualify as free speech violation. It might be rude behavior and disruption of public peace or whatever, but definitely not free speech violation.

>> I don't see any reason to make an artificial cut between this sort of action, and a similar action by a government.

You can't arbitrarily decide that civilian threats and something like the great firewall of China are on the same level because they simply aren't. It's completely unfathomable to think that you could copy and paste the legislation for one and apply it to the other. That'd be like putting a single try/catch around the body of main and call it your exception handling framework :)

>> Even if you don't call it a violation of your right to free speech, it's still a bad thing

We agree there, but by your logic, any time someone says "man , IE developers should die" or whatever, they're basically the same as extremists. My beef is with people confusing threatening, actually killing and real oppression, and attempting to justify stupid actions by evoking a noble human right.

You can't just put the three in the same bucket and tell me that it's cool to troll millions of people that did nothing to you, when really, you just have a petty disagreement with some random guy that you don't even know.

The keyword you used that is central to all of this was "fear". Emotions tend to cloud logical judgement very fast. Look at the TSA. And ask yourself: do you really think you're safer or more free after EDMD?

(Oh, and for the record, I don't believe in Libertarianism)
This is what they get for pandering to the lowest common denominator. I was probably going to vote McCain...until I met Sarah Palin. Now, instead of having me wanting to participate in this (and I hope I don't flatter myself by thinking I could make better suggestions than those in the article), they've got, well, Palin fans, and you can't tell the signal from the noise.
"how instead of what" - to do something

"what instead of why" - they need something
As interested as I am in the material, I can't read this article. I can't give the author my mindshare if he's going to include pointless illustrations of that nature in his article.
It's OK not to write unit tests - of course it is
I've just returned to a stand-up desk after going back to a sit-down desk for two years.

I've taken a simple extra chest of drawers which was lying around the house, and put a 2" thick piece of wood on top.
My monitors are likely a little on the low side, but my keyboard is about right.

In the past, I've stood on a balance board to further engage my core (though when your hands are on the keyboard, you'd be amazed at how easy standing on a balance board is).

One thing I've looked at doing is taking buying two adjustable base stools, removing the seat part and attaching a desk of some sort to those.
That way I would have a height adjustable work station for about $200
And here I thought the HN crowd would also be part of the Dilbert crowd. I was proved incorrectly.
Vague bug reports and scope creep are definitely up there.

One of my least favorite situations is dealing with other people's minor plugins or libraries...

If it's in Python, usually it's good as-is.

If it's in PHP, usually the structure is so disturbing that if we have to use it, I simply try not to look. The code ranges from naive to over-engineered, the latter of which is especially pointless in PHP.

For other people's JavaScript, usually I'm horrified by all of the 'for' and 'if' blocks that are lacking braces. Argh! Half the time I end up rewriting and removing portions of various plug-ins, and I often feel the compulsion to go fix all of the lazy bracing at the same time.
You've made a troll quality insult against Republicans ("Republicans sound like trolls" without any argument, details, quote, etc). Hmm. Trolling about trolling. Meta irony, I hope?
Cut them some slack. Managing user generated content is a difficult task. I hope they resolve these issues and bring us one step closer to using the internet to improve democracy.
Apparently it's not quite battled-tested yet:

http://gyazo.com/b206847fc013a9985f43cdaa7d066f9b.png
Wouldn't it be better if people debated these topics rationally rather than, you know, worrying about what meaningless rhetoric other might people hear?

Last night I heard an interview with Craig Venter where the interviewer used the term "playing god", or something similar several times to to characterize the arguments she assumed that some others might be making against this research. Venter actually corrected her at one point when she misquoted one of the commenters -- in this case a representative of the Vatican. It sounded to me as though the "playing god" expression was being used more by the proponents of this kind of research rather than the ones raising objections or concerns themselves. I think that the expression was being attributed to people who weren't raising that specious issue in the first place.

Still, I don't know why the expression,"playing god", whatever it might mean,is "dangerous" unless you're concerned that the uneducated masses might be stirred to some undesirable action as a result of hearing it.
we like to joke that our company builds the typical corporate all-encompassing software, but shit, we should just take a pilgrimage to washington and get that stuff. a program that has the breadth to do moon-mapping and web sites pretty much has the full spectrum of computation
Bollocks brought to you by the University behind: http://blog.jgc.org/2006/12/midas-number-or-why-divide-by-ze...
You're absolutely correct. Sorry. Here it is, updated properly:

Test Pong:
| Rails Webrick | Rails Mongrel | Rails Thin | Rails JRuby (glassfish) | Snap | Play! |
| 153.9 | 90.7 | 33.3 | 3350.5 | 11309.5 | 19796.3 |

Test File:
| Rails Webrick | Rails Mongrel | Rails Thin | Rails JRuby (glassfish) | Snap | Play! |
| Didn't test | 179.9 | 758.0 | 6146.9 | memory leak | 1617.9 |
Because it's impossible to start working on a FOSS project in a field without the people behind the various failed, embryonic, or plain poor pre-existing projects in that field demanding that you instead validate their work.
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