skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
It is obvious that DHS and all others must obey the law.

It is important to note that the people affected here are not just the hijab wearing sharia loving Muslims (as trump might describe them) but also people who helped US army carry out the unnecessary operations in their homeland and as a result face danger in their own country. Some top notch researchers or even activists who are fighting the oppressive regimes in their home countries.

As an immigrant I think I better max out my credit cards borrow all possible loans before leaving USA !
Are you really blaming that Iranian guy for it?
When you’re updating the URL as you do, it’d be really helpful if you’d update the page title as well. As it is, you just end up with a zillion entries titled “Who Is Hiring? - The Map With Jobs for Developers, Designers and Management in IT” rather than with things like “Remote Python jobs - Who Is Hiring?” &c.
Hang on, you brought up lynchings and internment when we were talking about ACLU donations and naturalization and I am engaging in hyperbole? Also, we're not talking about immigration or customs but specifically about naturalization. Take a look at the lengthy wikipedia page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideological_restrictions_on_na...

In its worst excesses, during wars, anarchist and red scares, I can't find anything in there remotely close to 'donated to ACLU, denied naturalization'. Someone even managed to get a favourable court ruling after admitting to being a communist. In 1943. What is your basis for believing an ACLU donation (not even membership, a mere donation) is going to ruin your chances of naturalization. 'The US government has done and continues to do bad things' is not sufficient basis.
"alcohol, which is typically assessed as having roughly similar social harm to heroin"

This is absurd.

There is no place on earth where it is 'typical' to consider alcohol to be more dangerous than heroin.

The ridiculous 'research' on alcohol v. heroin make comparisons as to 'how many accidents are caused by each' etc. in society, which is obviously not a fair comparison considering once is widely used, the other very infrequently.

Opioids are extremely addictive, and destructive in almost all cases of use.
> The Department of Homeland Security will comply with judicial orders;

Think you might've read over that
Be a not-terrible human being and roll with the punches. Realize that your agenda might not appeal to all of the other people in your nation. Try to understand the people who do not share your worldview and why that is.
Is the problem with just those users that changed the snappiness value to 0?
I would recommend anyone that is fascinated by this to read books from two universes; the Revelation Space universe, and the Culture novels. These feature two different looks at how AI & computers integrate or coexist with humans.
> Yesterday, less than one percent of the more than 325,000 international air travelers who arrive every day were inconvenienced while enhanced security measures were implemented.

Oh, well as long as it's only minorities who have to suffer, then I guess all is well.
Agree. That's how things spread and become "familiar" to people. It's amazing how mindfulness is slowly starting to spread in the US... thousands of years of evolution and only now is the value being seen. Better late than never!
Work with the people who are interested in working with you now. Once they're engaged, they're much more likely to stay engaged, don't you think? And more likely to be increasingly politically aware. Not everyone is at the same stage of their political development. No one is perfectly consistent. Humans just aren't built that way. You and I included. Continuing to hew along these binary political lines is doing no one any good.
Do Airbnb hosts usually get a say on who signs up to stay in their dwellings?
> President Trump’s Executive Order affects a minor portion of international travelers, and is a first step towards reestablishing control over America's borders and national security.

Whelp (editing out the explicative here), this makes it the official position of the DHS that the already-over-the-top measures they have been taking in recent years are not sufficient to establish "control over America's borders and national security".
Actually those types of Muslims eg. from Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Malaysia etc. are still welcome in the US. Even though some countries eg Indonesia have quite the homegrown terrorist network.

Clearly this was never about terrorism. It's about cynically assigning blame to countries who have no means to fight back ie. a Trump hotel or military purchasing power.
This is not hyperbole: if this statement is accurate, a coup d'etat is in progress in which our illegitimate "President" is overriding the authority of the judicial branch and it is time for every American who still believes in our constitution and our fundamental values of equality, diversity and multiculturalism take a stand and along with every congressman, every law enforcement officer, reporter, corporation, etc. to put aside petty partisan bickering and remove this fascist con-man from office immediately. If we don't, history will judge us all the same way as we judge those who looked aside while Hitler made a mockery out of his country's democratic institutions en route to handing himself supreme power.

I cannot overstate the danger we are all in every day this psychopathic fascist is allowed to remain in that office. He must be stopped immediately. Our most fundamental and cherished values are at stake here.
Er, no. See "Ludlow Massacre".
" People who drink tend to get pretty nasty sometimes, and that's a social harm that someone who's nodding doesn't perpetrate."

If everyone did heroin today - instead of drinking - the world would fall apart.

Can you imagine 50 000 people at a Football game, all doing smack? Sure, it would be a fun game. Within days, 10% of them would be full on addicts. Within weeks maybe 50% of them would. Those people would go through hell or high water to stay permanently high.

Giving them 'cheap and safe' smack at Walgreens is not going to help them - it would destroy them.

"If you eliminate the need to commit crime to obtain black-market drugs at obscene prices, a lot of the harms of heroin go away."

Have you actually ever met an addict - do you realize how insanely destroyed their lives become? Do you think that by making the drug cheaper and more accessible that this is going to 'make them better'? No - it's only helping to kill them.
Except reports are: they _aren't_ complying, and are being told not to comply.

This press release is words, not actions.
"Works for me" - people every time this shit happens

When the Nazis came for the communists,

I remained silent;

I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,

I remained silent;

I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,

I did not speak out;

I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,

I remained silent;

I wasn't a Jew.

When they came for me,

there was no one left to speak out.

Martin Niemöller, 1946

Now, of course the US aren't a Nazi state... yet. It's very important to make sure it stays that way, that should be the civil duty of all real democrats in your country right now.
How does a tty work?
Vote with your feet: Germany for example has a strong democratic culture, vibrant economy, (nearly) free education system, functioning public healthcare and - best of all - people speak German. To be fair, just with English you'll also get already pretty far.

Drop me a line in case you're interested, I'd be happy to help where I can. Same holds for companies.
Read Jonathan Haidt's The Righteous Mind: Why Good People are Divided by Politics and Religion
I don't think that's fair. The burden is on the original poster to provide evidence for their claim. If they don't do so, then the person calling them out for it is not obligated to educate them.
It seems to be meaningless since it is stated in a message which is _specifically_ announcing that the DHS is ignoring a court order.
You can read more about the CCTV cameras on the MPDC website. It does a decent job explaining why the cameras are useful, which was informative for me and I believe would be informative for other commenters as well.

https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/mpdcs-closed-circuit-television-cct...
Safe Programming: Optionals and Hackintoshes
Precisely what I described. It's a web server that serves journald events/entries. It's separate from journald, and it's separate from systemd as a service. It's completely optional.
It's no more embedded in systemd than nginx.

It does exist in the same umbrella project as systemd, (and I think that is an issue) but embedded is the wrong term.
Trump did accomplished something that the Iranian government was not able to do since the Iranian Revolution.

That is to stop Iranian top students to go to the US.
> must have known exactly what the long-term consequence was going to be

why must?
It seems possible they just assumed plastic would deteriorate quickly, or that they didn't think it would get into tissue, or that they just underestimated the consequences.

Hanlon's razor might apply here.
This article covers a lot more ground than just LSD... Mental health, antidepressants, PMS, the drug war, etc.

LSD is a very useful anti-serotonin agent. I've been trying a different anti-serotonin chemical and have found it to be quite useful. It's easier to sleep all night, mainly...
If this were some debate club, perhaps. I don't think that's the atmosphere that the HN community strives to cultivate.
Science is verifying a lot of the value in breathing practices. Check out this article on a specific technique as a treatment for depression. https://www.pennmedicine.org/news/news-releases/2016/novembe...

The box breathing works because it slows the breath down and brings it to a standard rhythm. Think of it this way, every emotion has a specific type of breath. When a person is experiencing sadness, happiness, anger, etc. there is specific pattern of breath that can be observed with regards to speed, length of inhale and exhale, depth, etc.

Emotion and breath are linked, and as the box breathing shows, it is a two way street. As emotions change, the breath does, but if we change our breath, our emotions do too. Have you ever been told to count slowly to ten when you're angry? Same principal.
Yes. You contact the hosts and then they have to approve you. Hosts review their guests after each stay for future hosts to look at.
The difference to me is context. I admit that I don't have a great recollection of the details of Obama's refugee ban, but from what I remember I have no reason to believe that he was motivated by something other than national security risk (whether or not the risk was significant enough to justify the ban is something I don't claim to know).

But the context of Trump's ban is very different. He promised a Muslim ban during his campaign, and according to Rudy Giuliani (tonight on Fox News), Trump asked him for advice on implementing the Muslim ban but in a technically legal way. I see no reasonable interpretation of this as anything other than Trump's team's best effort to discriminate against Muslims while being technically legal.
> We now have a government agency publicly disregarding an injunction by the Federal courts.

Which one? One I heard of prevents deportation of green card holders pending resolution of their cases. I don't see anything in DHS press release conflicting with it. Was there another one?
In fact, CNN reports that application of the order to green card holders may be misunderstanding:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/donald-trump-travel-b...
As of Saturday afternoon, Customs and Border Protection continued to issue the same guidance to airlines as it did Friday, telling airlines that fly to the US that green card holders can board planes to the US but they may get extra scrutiny on arrival, according to an airline official.

"Extra scrutiny" is kind of vague and worrying, but it's not the same as ban (if the intent was to ban no point in allowing boarding and flying in).
None of this matters. It doesn't matter what people did or didn't do in the past, and it doesn't matter what they'll do at some indefinite point in the future. This is something that's happening right now. I have no idea why you would be more focused on other things that other people may or may not have done at other times than this thing that is most definitely happening right now. If you want to blame liberal governments for this, remember that the more liberal candidate argued just as passionately against this approach, as the victorious candidate argued in favor of it. So I don't see how you can claim that this is the fault of anyone but the person who is currently making this happen.
Let's pretend your sponsoring entity makes a security or search appliance (anything from a google mini to a NAT/firewall) - AGPL code shipped on that appliance requires publishing source. Depending on how it's intertwined in the product, that may mean shipping source for the whole product

Apache / MIT / BSD have no such restrictions - Apache httpd is on a ton of appliances for that reason
Binding!=attacking
Where 3200 people comes from?
Its interesting how overreach in executive orders on one side is greeted as business as usual, versus being viewed as grounds for secession when the shoe is on the other foot
Can't the press ask for a press conference to clarify these issues?
http://quietkit.com/box-breathing/
That is one sentence in an order in which almost every other sentence contradicts it.

EDIT: I'm not sure who they are trying to speak to here, are they admitting they will follow the judicial order? Clearly to most people here, we are interpreting it as not following the order because the hint of "following judicial orders" is relegated to the end. The opening of the statement (first sentence) is:

>The Department of Homeland Security will continue to enforce all of President Trump’s Executive Orders in a manner that ensures the safety and security of the American people.

There, in the emphasis added by me, was a chance to mention the judicial order; they could have tacked "while respecting judicial orders" at the end of that sentence, and their intention would be clear, and that would set the tone of the rest of the order.

The reason I mention who their audience is because if it addressed is to those against the ban, then it doesn't do its job as it comes off as oppositional. If it's to save face with those for the ban, then yes, leaving that till the end does make sense. Perhaps that's why it is written this way?

Regardless, over analysing this seems unhelpful, I'm sure by tomorrow morning, their intention will be clear.
I think ceejayoz meant an injunction against any new executive orders with containing certain provisions.
Still not decided. Matlab, and more recently Julia, also adopted Fortran’s stupid convention.
Again, I will point out that the article linked to here says they will ALSO continue to comply with all judicial orders. Read carefully.

Really, the entire statement isn't that exciting, it just says "Agency will continue to follow legal structure of government as all agencies do." Mostly it's just an attempt to reassure people that things aren't as out of hand as they seem.
this is not a solution
Why should the taxi union's decision to strike impose an obligation to strike on others who are not part of the union and had no input in the decision to strike?
Every time I read the phrase cultural appropriation I am reminded of the Kimono Try On protests in Boston and I cringe:
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-33450391

Back to the original topic: it's breathing. Nobody owns breathing. It can't be trademarked or patented. The technique can be renamed and passed on for free or for profit.
Green card is for people who want to immigrate into US; US isn't interested in granting citizenship to people living elsewhere (never was), the stated goal is to diversify US population. Given that, such a requirement makes sense - and is very common in immigration procedures around the world.
I don't think it's ambiguous. In any case, it cannot be read as "people are locked into their hotel rooms".

(Which doesn't work with any electronic hotel door lock I've seen so far anyway)
Volunteer for campaigns of candidates that are running counter to Trump's policies. There's ALOT that goes into campaigns and not just in the weeks leading up to an election. Plus, ring the phone off the hook of your congressman.
Unfortunately only citizenship guarantees entry. Visas and green cards are more like guidelines. Very strong guidelines, but guidelines non-the-less.

Only a DHS agent can grant entry to non-citizens. On a case by case basis.

I imagine the questions are going to get harder. No more easy peasy things like "Where do you work?", "Why are you coming?", "Are you staying?".
Congress has given the Executive broad powers to control immigration from countries. Please explain how a coup d'etat is happening. Obama bombed many of these countries and killed citizens of them, but I don't remember that being a scandal.
So more than 500,000 Iraqi's killed were all bad people?
I agree, it's just that it's difficult to tell where the line is between a healthy self esteem about one's identity and it turning into an us vs them thing. In this thread, this comment might have turned into a discussion about the latter - or so I was afraid.
An approximation of "less than one percent of the more than 325,000", which I would add is an extremely vague statement on their part.
I couldn't find any mention of announcing that DHS is ignoring the court order in the message. Could you quote where it _specifically_ says so? I mean not you interpret its meaning as such, but it _specifically_ says these _specific_ words?
I'm unconvinced by this article for a number of reasons.

The significance placed on trade deficits always struck me as somewhat misguided so the author's uncritical focus on this crude metric is off putting. In aggregate, inward and outward flows have to match by definition. If an American company builds and sells a car to a foreigner this reduces the US deficit but if it builds and sells a house to a foreigner, then this has the effect of increasing it. So in the modern world, running a trade deficit just means you are selling more things like houses than cars.

If running a trade deficit was impoverishing, then you'd imagine that the two lists of countries with the biggest trade deficits and surpluses (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_current_a... ) would be dominated by the poorest and richest countries respectively. But they are not - it just depends on the economic specialities of the countries.

Also I am suspicious of anyone who uses a dismissive phrase like "so called experts" as part of their argument. In my experience, this generally is a strong signal that the author has a very superficial understanding of the subject. Not that I claim any expertise in the area.
Is that the standard you hold the United States to?
> "If you've ever been to those countries, the first thing you notice as a westerner is that the streets are chaos, traffic rules are barely obeyed, and aggressiveness is required to get anywhere."

I'm going to get down voted for this, but it has to be said.

The whole "well it couldn't drive in X country" scenario is ridiculous. Driving in unruly, chaotic, unregulated environments is NOT a problem for self driving cars to solve.

That type of driving environment certainly IS a problem, but one that has already been solved by good governance, including laws, rules, and regulations for improving safety of traffic. Countries like the United States, among others, have developed a set of rules and regulations that make self driving cars possible within their domain. It's foolhardy to assume self driving cars can, or should, work outside of that domain.
Can you point me to the sentence that says they're ignoring the court order?

I think the intended interpretation of this seems pretty clear, maybe it's just me, but they seem to be saying "We will continue to enforce executive order minus any vetoes or alterations issued by courts." As you would expect them to.
"Reports are" is rather vague. Which reports are about this non-compliance, in which form they are not complying?
Thank you for the 4-7-8, it seems worthwhile to try regularly!
The ball now is in the Judiciary's court. If this dept goes rogue, they should intervene and make some arrests for people violating the court orders and laws.

This looks day after day like a classical far-right takeover of the govt and people in the US should be really alarmed by these developments.
-1 downvoted, this is definitely hyperbole.
Similarly to another poster: is this the standard you hold the USA to? "It's not as bad as Iran"?
A federal judge issued an injunction against enforcement of part of the executive order. In a release titled "Response To Recent Litigation," DHS announced that it would continue to enforce the order.

That sounds for all the world like the executive branch rejecting the authority of the judicial branch.
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نرخ تور مشهد ویژه هتل صدف و رازی ورود ۱۵ بهمن ۹۵
"less than" doesn't mean "approximately that number".
This has been my fear too. I suggest use SudoPay.
> embedded is the wrong term

Don't use it then. Anyway, since systemd-the-project doesn't have a separate name from systemd-the-init, I don't see any problem with Cieplak's statement.
If the point is actually to reassure the reader, the tone is completely off. I don't find seething rage to be very reassuring.
No, it's not that interesting. Context obviously matters, and I am baffled that so many people are pretending not to understand that.
>but I don't remember that being a scandal.

I do remember that being a scandal.

To your main point, a story has been going around that a court has put a stay on the executive order. If true, this would mean that enforcing the order is currently illegal; and doing so could be called a "coup" by the executive branch (although I don't think this technically qualifies as a coup).

Having said that, my understanding is that the referenced court case only applies to the specific individuals who sued, so enforcement of the order is still legal in all other cases.
No, it was Bush who bombed and destabilized the ME, and Obama was the one who didn't do enough to save the region -- the red line controversy -- and watched idly while the Arab Spring crumbling which led indirectly to the rise of ISIS and the next wave of global Islamic terrorism that we're living through.