skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
... or, the people that person met were working for him and they asked him about facts they knew the person had memorised. It's not that hard to imagine and it's actually the done thing in mentalist shows, even to the point that, as I say in another comment, there is a name for people planted in audiences to do that sort of thing: "shill".

So maybe that "ample evidence" was fabricated.

There's all sorts of other possibilities between "it's a conspiracy" and "it's a miracle" (both of which are equally unlikely btw). For instance, my favourite trick requires nothing but a dozen or so pieces of paper. You write the word "boy" on half and the word "girl" on the other half, seal each in an envelope and hand them to a dozen pregnant women, telling them to open it only after they've given birth (it makes no difference that they'll open it before anyway). Once they start giving birth, it's very likely that you'll have hit the right gender a couple of times or so. After that, those couple of "hits" will probably become ardent supporters of yours, and the best advertisement for your medium business. "How did she know?!" Well, you didn't- but it doesn't matter. It only matters that you appear as if you did.

And anyone looking on can go around saying things like "either it's a massive conspiracy or that lady really has extraordinary abilities!".
"The stay is temporary and a court will have to decide whether to make it permanent at a later date—and it only affects people who have already arrived in the United States—but for now, people will not be deported because of Trump's executive order"

Only covers part of the ban; those who have not yet arrived from those countries will not be allowed in.
- tensorflow

- ESP8266

- ethereum

- software defined radio projects

- ketamine as an antidepressant

- https://www.addgene.org/vector-database/

^ note, I just think these are all technologies that have yet to reach their true potential
Can you really stay out of politics? Ten years from now, what if Spolski is in jail and SO closed down. Then what?
I had to get historical bills from a terrible cellphone provider in Canada (Wind mobile, now Freedom mobile, now owned by Shaw communications) a little while back.

Their customer support process was useless (they'll send historical bills to third party organisations for stuff like background checks, but they're afraid that consumers will use the bills to prove that they're misapplying charges). Thinking I'd just just have to navigate their customer service departments, I started recording the calls (legal in my jurisdiction).

After several conversations with friendly but incredibly unhelpful CSRs (thanks to corporate policy), I started to look at other ways that I could get my info. I issued a formal request for all of my personal data under Canadian federal and provincial privacy laws (PIPEDA). Their legal department claimed that I issued the request incorrectly ("by email"), so I responded by citing the relevant clauses (never mind that there was a paper version that I sent at the same time). Then they made a couple of other similar claims (that PIPEDA doesn't apply to them, my reply was that telcos are specifically named).

Seeing that they were drawing things out, I started to respond with expansions to my request (asking for potentially damaging things like a list of who they intentionally or unintentionally disclosed my personal information to), and threatening to report the issue to the Privacy Commissioner of Canada.

Some combination here seemed to do the trick, someone from their corporate security department reached out to me by email, and had the authority and power to give me my data. They ended up charging me an exorbitant amount for the original request's export (and never actually fully complied with my request for disclosures), but I ended up getting what I wanted.

I now take the opportunity to share my experience whenever possible, and figure that these types of stories being out there (along with the potential customers they lose) will provide the financial incentive for them to change their processes long-term.

TL;DR: CS process first, then recording, then escalating the request slowly using privacy laws to your advantage, then expanding on the request to give them time pressure (that eventually you'll request data they legally have to provide but practically can't), then providing pressure to respond by threatening to take it to a federal regulatory body.
They only say something when it benefits them, companies are not a charity
It's quite telling that when Obama had summarily banned Iraqi refugees for 6 months in 2011 we have heard nary a peep from the press.
Wow, it seems like US is a 24-hour reality show now.
I'm just learning CSS animations and thought I'd do one that way.

<body><style>.circle{border-radius:50%;width:30vw;height:30vw;margin: auto}.breathe{animation:8s linear 0s infinite alternate breathe;}.inner{background-color:teal;}.border{border:10px solid black;}@keyframes breathe{0%{transform:scale(1);}25%{transform:scale(1);}75%{transform:scale(0.5);}100%{transform:scale(0.5);}}</style><div class="circle border"><div class="inner circle breathe">

Or, as a data URI:

data:text/html;charset=utf-8;base64,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

(Be sure to triple-click to select all.)
Ask HN: Docker, VM, whatever for documenting on MacOS/Windows?
I am writing some tutorials on things like GitHub and using Golang with Google Cloud SQL. I want to make sure I can start from scratch fairly often because I want to recreate the new user experience: Creating SSH keys, installing MySQL from scratch, etc. It's awfully easy to assume a user experience that the novice cannot recreate easily. I am doing multiple tests to keep those problems to a minimum.

My host systems are MacOS and Windows. Ideally I could do the docs for Ubunutu (is that the most common denominator?) or Fedora. Most of the tutorials are on the command line, not the GUI.

What's the best way to create reproducible environments that I can tear down and reset to zero quickly? I am thinking that Docker would be a good way to go, but maybe Windows support isn't there yet? Or does Windows 10 have some kind of hypervisor that would let me blow away subshell or something?

I think the best way to do this probably Docker, but I don't know how to make the Windows shell a docker image.

Or maybe Virtual Box is the way to go? I have the luxury of a brand new Windows 10 laptop, if that makes a difference.
Judge Blocks Part of Trump’s Immigration Order
I think that may have meant it applied to all airports as opposed to just the New York airports, but it could still only apply to the people who have already been held and not future travelers.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13511348
Good points, but what about addiction and neurotransmitter equilibrium? If something is addictive enough, and highly available, do you think that it would become an unnecessary brain dependency?
If your phone gets stolen, chances are they can log into your Paypal account
The only way to "stand up for what's right" is to be part of the conversation, not to shy away from it.
If TK isn't part of that group, then who takes his place?
If you had your way and nobody you approve of politically would have representation.

The answers to our problems aren't blatant partisanship, but a robust exchange of ideas. If Trump invites anyone from SV, it'd be extremely foolish to "protest" by taking yourself out of the conversation.
Oh, I know nothing? Moderate your tone.

It will be an interesting case for certain but people outside the US can't sue the US government demanding entry. They have no standing.

As a citizen, I barely have legal standing to sue for a denial of passport.

The affected people already present might have some standing to fight their denial of entry as they are here legally but people here illegally have no such right.
That's... revolutionary. Literally. Shutting down the economic activity in our cities would be an act of rebellion that ought to trigger martial law.
Yeah I was going to comment about the same thing. There is a good advice for people who have parents that are alcoholics. Don't take the first sip.
My wife is an Iranian green card holder who was going to leave the country for a conference she's organizing next month (ironically, on human rights) so we're directly impacted by this. Aside from what others have said, can I just recommend that people who want to do something write short, empathetic notes to friends or acquaintances who might be effected? My wife was in tears all this morning, and when one of our friends wrote simply to say "You're welcome in this country, this doesn't reflect our values, and I'm here for you if you need me" it helped a lot.
Spolsky's post was specifically about the SO community. It was the best place and the best time to post it.

If you disagree, feel free to moderate the post for irrelevance, I know they have a mechanism to do that over there.
Whole Foods Code of Conduct still has the approval requirements for postings [pdf]
Your driver must be a real level 4 driver.
The wording of the ruling looks like it applies nationally to me:

"WHEREFORE, IT IS HEREBY ORDERED that the respondents, their officers, agents, servants, employees, attorneys, and all members and persons acting in concert or participation with than, from the date of this Order, are

ENJOINED AND RESTRAINED from, in any manner or by any means, removing individuals with refugee applications approved by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services as part of the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program, holders of valid immigrant and non-immigrant visas, and other individuals from Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia, and Yemen legally authorized to enter the United States."
Can you share some more light?
Yes, finally people are starting to see drugs addicts as the valuable people they are and not as disposable felons. Addiction is a sickness that affects people not a failure of morals that needs a jail sentence.
That's what he literally just did for immigrants coming from a set of countries...
Do you think its possible to change their minds?
To add to the wonderful options already stated here, I wrote a gem once upon a time called "bales" (https://github.com/YellowApple/bales) that provides a reasonably-nice DSL to declaratively define command-line applications (including subcommands up to arbitrary nesting levels) without the complexity of more fully-featured command-line app libraries like Thor and Boson. I haven't done as good of a job at maintaining it as I would've liked, but it works reasonably well and I've used it for quite a few quick-and-dirty command-line programs.
Life isn't fiction.
Can you please share your experience a bit more ? How much SELinux is really required ? What about grsecurity.

My use case is custom build Django/Postgres app.
Yeah it was just a crazy thought I had. Blocking a whole city is hard, takes coordination, blocking all the streets etc. Blocking Facebook is shutting off connections to a region.
Is it possible to anonymously donate to the ACLU?

As a PR in the process of obtaining citizenship, a small fear of mine is that USCIS will start penalizing applicants that support organizations opposed to Trump. Today just proved that anything is possible and I'm sure we've all seen the stories about CBP asking to see the social media feeds of travelers in the past.
> By the same argument you can predict that everything will fail and be right most of the time.

Yes, exactly. It's worth reminding people that for every success there are many unheard of failures.

I find it lazy when people claim "They said that about <example>", as if that's actually a counterpoint (it isn't).
Taxes on income are based on throwing those who refuse to hand over a share of the currency they receive in private trade in prison, where they are kept in a small enclosure, and where they often develop mental illness and suffer from physical and sexual assault.

You justify this in your own mind with ideological constructs and narratives about "Randians" and "libertarians". In reality, you support violating human rights, and no argument you conjur up can justify that.
Surely this is a false equivalency.
>> "We know so much about game theory yet we can't apply it in politics"
Oh, but we do apply this to politics, constantly; laws a re passed and enforced precisely to short-circuit a great many PDs; since if there's a large external penalty (even if infrequently applied) then short cuts may not pay. We tax everyone set amounts rather than ask nicely for contributions because that would set up a free-rider PD, etc, etc.

Of course, many political situations also exist where companies donate heavily and then ask for such penalties to be removed so they can sell worthless securities or not have their emissions monitored anymore. Democracy turns out to be pretty thoroughly corruptible, (but so do other forms of government.)
He could just play the executive order dance
It's going to be a long four years if the front page of HN is filled with anti-Trump stories.

Can't we leave these conversations on other news sites?

Edited for typo
WOW does the same thing. Although you can opt-out, they still let you know they are there by hijacking requests to let you know about upcoming service outages. I guess they don't know about email.
I donated but only $5/month. Hopefully that is an actual donation after credit card processing fees. Hopefully I can make it $10/month later this year.
It was really just a crazy idea I had based on seeing calls to block airports blocks and seeing some tech CEOs come in support of immigrants and thought, what could they do really, and naturally thought --- well shut down their service...
Was wondering the same thing.. come for tech news, get instantly put off by vocal users forcing US politics in the conversations. I thought the no politic rule would help with that.
> I'd argue that Obama made SUBSTANTIAL improvements to foreign relationships with the majority of the world.

How so? Obama essentially renewed the Cold War Lite (Russian Syria vs US Syria -- it's 70's Afghanistan all over again). In fact, I could not disagree more, and I think this is a great example of "denialism." I will give Obama props for Cuba, but I don't know of another notable improvement made by the US, and it certainly does not cancel out the Russia fiasco, nor the military engagements that this thread is about.

> Even of Obama failed on these two fronts, I'd argue that his work on domestic policy and economic recovery makes him a notable president,

This is sort of off topic anyway (did not initially intend to get into a full review of Obama's successfulness), BUT I think it needs to be addressed. First of all, what are you specifically talking about? Make sure to link what has been done by Obama (executive policy). I hope this doesn't turn into something like "gas prices fell under Obama," which had absolutely nothing to do with him, and yet I hear it all the time from folks who recently learned how to put the square in the square hole.

> especially given the absolutely astounding difficulty he faced from the constant racist catcalling and obstructionism of the RNC and conservative media.

Alright, this is clearly just being an Obamapologist...
> You can't sue in US federal court on behalf of non-citizens.

This affects citizens as well, and they can very well sue on their behalf. Employers, spouses, children, etc. of immigrants all have rights that are being infringed here.

Also, I'm not sure if that exception also applies to green card holders. They have some extra rights and privileges.
Thanks for the super detailed reply!
Very different bans, dont you think?
That sounds like a good idea and I've bookmarked your post for future reference. Did you notice any performance issues after switching to gzip?
You know, it turns out only ONE, just ONE signed the petition. It was probably Hillary. You know, I going to create my own petition and it's going to be GREAT. It's going to be the best petition.
If only more american "liberals" had spoken out against their president waging war in Iraq, Syria and Libya; as fiercely as many of them are speaking out against their new president simply banning those countries' citizens from entering the US...

Who knows... I guess we can only now imagine what could've been.
This is a really fantastic, actionable, and readable guide. It's an effort by Congressional staffers to reverse-engineer what was so effective about the Tea Party.

Another good next step is to make a sizable contribution to the ACLU.
Everyone from these countries. The vast majority of green card holders are not affected
This is affecting all the major tech companies directly, and many others' personal lives. This is definitely tech-related and important to many in the tech community.

Or: Yes, when he stops doing these things.
You are also assuming that the racist homophobe will do anything to make sure your children earn more than you did at their age.
I wouldn't worry about it, with the ACLU.
It's interesting... unless my memory is failing me, you never hear Apple say anything to the effect of, "We listened to our customers, so we decided to _____"

I mean, I agree with what Jobs said when he suggested that customers expect Apple to innovate and curate and make it's own decisions about what products it develops. But I think you can also take that too far, especially when your customers are screaming at you on certain topics.
Agreed. There are better places online if you want political news/discussion.
Docket: https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/33xszihl6/new-york-eastern...

Order PDF: https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/download.html?id=242131326...

Related Cases: https://www.plainsite.org/tags/trump-muslim-immigration-ban-...
Yes I discovered that recently when I found my spam folder was only 200mb despite storing tens of thousands of spam. Makes sense that spam would be as small as possible for quicker delivery.
> and if people die while using them it's not like we didn't give them enough fucking warning.

Who is "we"?

And do you actually think that "warning" is the main contributor in avoiding addiction and dependance on drugs?

Your comment reads as if your opinion is common knowledge. Can you elaborate?
The PD is important because it's mostly the rational selfish actors who we need to worry about. Irrationally altruistic actors are rare, and irrational selfish actors tend to self-immolate or get arrested quickly. Many things go on during church socials that don't require any problem-solving on the part of game theorists; because widespread altruism is already a solution, just the hardest solution to actually get to.
Given that this only effects those in transit (based on a comment in another thread) it probably wouldn't hit the Supreme Court before people finally end their trips and get to the US.
https://www.aclu.org/news/federal-court-grants-stay-challeng...
Centos/rhel are on a pretty old kernel at this point though?
Where in the EO does Muslim come into play?

And of course it's discriminatory! That's sort of, like, the whole point. All the existing immigration policies are discriminatory. That's why I (Canadian) can go basically anywhere, but someone from Central America can't.
Depending on what you're dealing with, I tend to go legal/regulatory. For instance, I was building my own PVR like a billion years ago (had outgrown my hacked Tivo and cable companies hadn't started offering their own in an attempt to destroy personal recording) and found out that there were federal regulations which required cable companies to provide a cable box with a working Firewire port.

Talking to the local cable companies customer service and techs was useless, they either had no idea what I was talking about or insisted that it was not possible. So I found out that cable companies are regulated by the Public Utilities Commission. Placed a call to them. They had no idea what I was talking about either, but I cited the law and they looked it up and agreed.

The next day I got a call from the owner of the local cable company franchise, and he was very concerned. I got the impression that getting a call from the office of the public utilities commission is not a great day for a person in his position. Turned out all they needed to do was check a checkbox on my account and the firewire port started working. Had it up and going later that day!

If a company screws you properly, it usually means they broke a law. Find out what it is and who is in charge of slamming their hand in the door when they step over the line. Contact those people.
Did this apply to persons who had green cards or visas?
It looks like you can donate by check: https://www.aclu.org/how-you-can-help, but I don't see an option for cash or Bitcoin. I suppose it could be possible to donate cash in person at one of their physical offices
It's the same countries Obama's administration identified as high risk last year, so its not totally arbitrary
Oh get over yourself. "Does not work" means "dude I don't have time for this shit just tell me how to fix your shitty code or do it yourself"

It's definitely some "elegant" framework this guy cooked up that makes things "so much cleaner and easier to use" but is just way fucking harder to debug when literally anything goes wrong.
Anti-trump stories? This is not an anti-trump story.

This is a discussion of a likely illegal, unconstitutional, dehumanizing, and ill-considered executive order that affects the lives of many people on HN and related to them.

Everyone wants to ignore problems that don't affect them, which is how the US ended up with its current leadership.

While I can sympathise with the desire for peace, now is not the time, and I'm sorry, but you're just going to have to put up with it. The time for silence is over.
Instead of Trump’s Wall, Let’s Build a Border of Solar Panels
Seems you haven't tried a non Mac mouse pad for some time. I suggest you do so, I believe you will reconsider your comment.
We've already been through this before though. Interracial marriage was banned far and wide through democracy, but was overturned by the courts. Same with marriage equality. This has been seen as a feature of the system, not a bug.
Trump is banning visa and Green Card holders from returning to the States. This is notably different.
Perhaps, you are forgetting his grandfather was an immigrant himself from the kingdom of Bavaria. If his grandfather was not let in, he wouldn't be Potus today.
We've already been through this before though. Interracial marriage was banned far and wide through democracy, but was overturned by the courts. Same with marriage equality. This has been seen by many as a feature of the system, not a bug.
https://users.ece.cmu.edu/~vsekar/Teaching/Spring15/18731/pa...
This report (dated 13 July 2011) by the NYTimes with the title "Visa Delays Put Iraqis Who Aided U.S. in Fear" is the exact opposite of "nary a peep". [0]

[0] http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/13/world/middleeast/13baghdad...

EDIT: remove appositional identification of the NYTimes as "widely considered the US newspaper of record". Change from interrogative to declarative mood.
Going around and shooting people with jobs would be opening up employment for other people too, doesn't make it good policy.

Barring employment and immigration to an ethnic group is absolutely disastrous for the country.
It's a story that is overwhelmingly of political and media convenience. There was hardly peep about it being illegal, unconstitutional, dehumanizing, or ill-considered when Obama banned Iraqis for six months in 2011. Gee, I wonder why.