skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
"The person who shot the gun did not read HN, I may be wrong but I feel this is a fair assumption"

The systems on which that person read the false information that drove them to shoot the gun were built by people who read HN. That may sound like a lot of levels of indirection, but to ignore politics for a week seems like a symptom of pretending that we are not a part of the problem.

I think the technology running the web needs to be thought of as a part of the fourth estate. We are not separate from the media which we have restructured.
> Unless HN can figure out how to give fair treatment to minority opinions, it's best to exclude these discussions entirely.

Given that cultural and political values and assertions are diverse within relatively small communities, never mind a global audience, I'd suggest this would be very difficult to pull off.

For a moment, consider speaking about a topic that was settled decades or centuries ago in your community, but is still a controversial topic elsewhere. What topic are you thinking of? What other communit(y/ies) were you thinking of? What issues and communities do you think other people would offer? I bet there would be a lot of different perspectives on these questions, which is the reason political discussion should be limited.
Of course it's delusional. The concepts can't be defined to begin with, nor can they be separated in any consistent way. And still we have to moderate this site.

> the world is upside down, but think happy thoughts, folks! Here's a TED talk!

It's sort of a peeve of mine that people project this onto us because I can't say how I really feel about it without breaking our own rules.
ok thanks, so have you gotten any interest from companies? Asking because I need to host my static sites somewhere soon but don't want to go somewhere that won't stick around a long time.
"Why does calloc exist?" That's the title of one of the articles linked on the front page right now. I would challenge anyone to show us where the NYT, Economist, Drudge, Huffington Post, etc have anything like this. They don't. Why not? Because it's not what people come there to read about. I would argue this is "Hacker News". If you want politics, what's wrong with the 10k other sites dedicated to these topics? To note, all of the aforementioned have tech sections discussing topics like the ones you mentioned here, but none of them have anything like Hacker News does on a daily basis. This isn't censorship anymore than Cosmopolitan magazine not covering Nascar very often (if at all). Know your audience.
a welcomed move really.

i come here to read tech news and be part of one of the least toxic communities that's not my old irc channels.

as to politics, there's futurology and discussing sociology, and there's left vs right, "make mericuh gr8 agin" vs "gief all monies to poor" politics, which would put HN on some political brigade's list.

i don't have anything against future speculation and theorizing about conservative\liberal angles to automation and rise of AI or voting machine tech.

it'll be interesting to see what results the detox week will bear!
Unfortunately in the last few years concurrent and parallel have taken on technical meaning, so any understanding gained from what it means in the common tongue doesn't really help.

Concurrent is for separate entities working together in a coordinated manner. A prime example is threads working together on a work queue. Parallel is for a singular entity doing multiple things at the same time. For example a vector instruction that does multiple additions at the same time.
The Case Against Progressive Enhancement's Flimsy Moral Foundation
nradov nailed some of it -- cultural stuff which is hard to replicate. In addition there's a dense web of lawyers who understand startups (which are different from established companies and different from, say, a retail store or simple service business), landlords who can deal with renting to a tenant that might not be around in a year, lots of possible employees who are comfortable with something interesting but quite risky and who bring their own experiences and networks into the effort, and in general a really large tolerance for risk.

There's a lot of visible froth about the valley available in the press, most of which is useless bull. Folks are starting companies, getting funded, and shipping product to customers without bothering to make a single press mention or crunchbase entry. Many of them working with folks they've worked with before. None of that culture is visible from outside the valley.
I completely understand why you brought it up, I'm just trying to explain that you were and are still assuming bad faith.

From my perspective, this is not very odd because HN is not a general purpose message board. The guidelines have always outlined what is on and off topic, and politics has always been considered off topic. It seems like a very reasonable experiment.
> Political conflicts cause harm here.

Preventing political discussions causes far more harm than it prevents. I understand the intent. I understand the problem. Flame wars are not productive. But I think this is a poor response to a valid problem.
Related: https://github.com/go-martini/martini (NOTE: The martini framework is no longer maintained.)
Reading that page, I see estimates from 1/10 to 10X the dam failure. I can't see how it could be said "haven't come anywhere near"
A far too subjective article. Diplomats of her ilk have messed up several countries because they didnt give a hoot about the commoners or long term scenarios, and dealt with only the rich and powerful for short term political gain, whilst flaunting their partying and wealth and immunity. Case in point Iran. Case in point Pakistan, which might be going the same way. The implementation may require work, but the impetus for accountability for diplomats is a fucking good thing.
That dreadful music... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11286858
No, they were more like a morale booster to give those at home something to do.

But during WWII in Finland there were definitely gardens built by soldiers. As the Soviet Union defended against Germany and its Finnish front was effectively paused, the Finnish soldiers began to build temporary houses on the front lines. Here's a photo from 1943:

http://www.nautelankoski.net/sota/kuvat/sotakuvat/jatkosotak...
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If you're serious about self-hosting analytics there is only one serious place to go: http://snowplowanalytics.com/

I don't use them, but they are building enterprise-grade self-hosting.

Disclaimer: I am working on a project in the marketing analytics space. I don't use them and this isn't an endorsement, just a pointer to research more!
If you think political conflicts cause harm, maybe you should change how you approach conflict rather than pretending it doesn't exist?
Circular Economy Framework Could Give India a Competitive Advantage
I've had a hard time finding a good place to have substantive political discussion outside HN. Anyone have suggestions?
IMAP might be a poor choice to validate the credentials as I believe gmail has it disabled by default.
It doesn't make a difference whether or not Peter Thiel would want to move to China or not. There are tons of VCs in China and also government funding. It also has an economy that can sustain itself.

For sure there are many Chinese moving to SV, but certainly less willing to do so than compared with a decades ago, and more common that people already in SV moves back. It doesn't mean immigration to US would be less though, when the best people don't want to come, there will still be tons of other people that do.
I especially liked this part:

> If you need someone who can hit the ground running right away, test them with the exact tools they’ll be using on the job. If you need someone flexible who can learn anything, test them on something new and unique. If you need someone with a level head, try to frustrate your candidates and ditch the ones with short tempers.

Edit: Except for deliberately frustrating candidates.
If a conversation does nothing more than make someone think about their stance more than they have before, it's been wildly successful.

That's all you can ever really achieve with any online discussion about a topic that has no "right" answer.
> That depends entirely on the regex implementation

True, and anyone who knows that Russ Cox is a core member of the Go team will have a hard time suppressing a smirk when reading this :)

https://swtch.com/~rsc/regexp/
I am sorry to hear you feel this way. as someone who has independent views, I have no idea what the views of the average HN reader are but I'll try to be more mindful of this in the future.
That sounds really fun :) I've heard good things about the Swissflow flow meters, for monitoring beer flow to the tap, but they're _really_ expensive :(
You don't have to literally pipe it into a file, you can just open it in an editor. The "syntax" in the example is just an example.
I am concerned that in the long run political stories about HN and Y Combinator, and about the tech scene will be excluded.

Where better to talk about the politics of HN and Y Combinator than on HN? As far as political stories go, these are the most relevant ones to HN readers. Political stories about the tech scene, and related topics (such as political reactions to tech employees grabbing up all the real estate in certain tech-heavy cities like SF) are also very relevant.

I would be more ok with the banning of non-tech-related political stories/threads. But, I think a better solution than censorship would be tagging. Tagging would allow every reader to do their own filtering, and include/exclude what they felt was appropriate, rather than have those decisions dictated top-down.

On the other hand, I also understand the desire of the site owners/admins to guide the site to be what they want it to be, rather than what its users want it to be. That's definitely their prerogative, and much of it I agree with - particularly the censorship of hate speech, flaming, and trolling.

The guiding of this site towards more tech and less politics is also a desire I understand and commiserate with. There definitely are plenty of other political sites out there, where you can argue this stuff 'till the cows come home. But personally, I don't visit those sites, and would like to be able to discuss at least some of those topics -- the ones relevant to tech and to HN/YC, on HN itself.
Chomsky exposes crimes and colossal lies of the ‘masters of mankind’
It's a lot like that classical definition of pornography. I can't define it, but I know it when I see it. If a topic gets a lot of downvotes this week, it means it crossed the line for a lot of people. Simple :)
Full report: https://www.ellenmacarthurfoundation.org/assets/downloads/pu...
Let me reframe my question this way: given the child you mentioned, would he/she be better off in life if you construct and provide such a framework where that child could consume and dissipate more energy than other children?

That is, can we control (not just predict) the outcome by manipulating dissipation patterns?
I recently started using `now`[0] for hosting my static and small scale sites. While it's mainly targeted for Node apps
/JS, it supports deploying static sites out of the box which free and very easy DNS, SSL setup. It's not free, but still very affordable compared to the benefits.

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I'm happy to see particularly interesting pieces that deal with politics here, but I've seen far too much "breaking" political news here for my tastes. I'd much prefer if HN's politics were more deep and analytical, rather than following the same reality show that I can watch on Reddit, Facebook, and Twitter.
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Tried this and it looked really interesting, but I didn't keep it because there was no Android support. Do you have an android version yet?

I remember it styled links as well as body text which I found pretty annoying.
I don't know. If you use Google products and see ads, you're indirectly paying for the development of Angular.

Not everyone who uses government services directly pays for them either (they might not have income or it might be less than the required minimum for federal/national tax, for example).
deltabot - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbNiJKSRCpA

digital theramin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZxVEUxaw1w

3d printer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFOR1YPwFMM

stacked focus camera rig - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ovWjnzBGUw
And as one, the community set down the Republican / Democrat placards they had so crudely been swinging against each other ... and picked up once more the placards for vi and emacs.
> Effects come afterwards, so they can't be the explanation for something that's already happened.

actually theory of emergence of dissipative structures in the energy flows is kind of showing that the energy flow, i.e. 2nd law is the cause, not the effect

>Really I do not see what this idea is supposed to add.

even without showing it as a cause, there is still important role of these works is to show compatibility at all stages and scales of the life process with the basic physics laws like the 2nd law. We kind of intuitively know that this is true, yet to be shown scientifically true is still a pretty big work.

>Darwinian evolution is a perfectly complete, tight, and verified explanation for the existence and complexity of life.

Does it explain clearly and in all the details why we have RNA and those 20 amino acids instead of some other structure and those amino acids that has recently been and will be more in future synthesized in the lab? "Better fit" is obviously a right answer, yet it doesn't provide any details on what specifically was better "fit" with "what". It is like Archimedes law - we still have huge field of naval engineering resulting in multitude of hulls, etc.. despite the law itself being "complete, tight, and verified explanation".
Does wetware count?

I'm rebuilding engineered bacteria which can take pictures [1]. I'm using new proteins which will make the bacteria more reliable and use cheaper materials to take pictures. I hope to create some pretty sweet looking images to hang on the wall.

[1] - http://www.nature.com/news/2005/051121/full/news051121-8.htm...
> This is censorship pure and simple.

No, it's 'moderation'. Censorship is where you can't say something in any (public) outlet.

> Is HN an America based community that reflects the core beliefs in freedom of speech & expression?

No, because downvoting 'ghosts' a comment, there's shadowbanning, dead comments, and the mods can already kill stories. Moderation is already alive and kicking on HN; there's plenty of it done by both mods and users.

Also, it's only for one week. It's bizarre to see just how many commentors are treating it like the end-times of civilisation.
I'm not worried about this move because I think that I'll somehow miss out on political news, I'm worried because an attempt to detach ourselves from politics (as interpreted here) can only be to the detriment of those on the losing end of politics.
>In the current problems of visual perception, I think the field would benefit greatly a shift to focus on multiscale interaction/dynamics rather than on (static) statistics as it is currently (for more on this, see my colleague's blog: [1]).

Your friend's blog has a lot of good insights that I've seen in the theoretical neuroscience and computational cognitive science literature as well. Where do you guys work?
Seems like they did something to the notebook interface to make it more responsive on tablets. I usually cannot manipulate Jupyter notebooks from an iPad, but I can here. Is this just a MS modification?
I disagree with this idea, the point where I consider it cowardly. This is a forum for a community, so let us talk about what we want to, and upvote it if it's good content. If this is actually a concern about a problem happening like on Reddit with upvote bots, then let's talk about that.

C'mon, hearing people talk positively about working with JS lights a fire inside me and my veins pop, so I just don't upvote their comments. Pretty simple.
An experiment has clearly defined goals and a control. What are we testing here? Whether we are better educated when the week is over? Whether we feel better about what we read and how we participated here? What are the metrics?

HN might not should be or should strive to be the place where you get your news about politics - but it has certainly educated me about political positions and history in the past.
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I'm inclined to do this too, but imagine how you'd feel if you posted this in the late 1920s. Politics has a nasty habit of intruding on our lives in ways we can't ignore.
setup a meeting with them. See what they offer and try to get some info about their vision and strategy. If the deal is to weak then turn it into a "nice to meet you let's chat about our progress in the future". If it's a good deal then you'll be in a better place to answer your own question.

Just an email with "are you for sale" means nothing. You shouldn't even read it unless you're willing to hear about a potential offer.
"Science doesn't always have to be right, it just has to be willing to be proven wrong. That's how it's supposed to work."

That my friend is the ultimate cop out clause, its like saying "oh we can bash religion for when its wrong but you cant bash science".
How does a barista offer that, versus simply visiting an interface (app, browser), clicking a button, and having it delivered to your table by a robot within five minutes?

I don't think the "productive atmosphere" concept is fully realized yet. Imagine how happy starbucks would be if they could reclaim all of that bar area for more seating (and more customers ordering more drinks!) or less area and less rent.
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I already get TONS of political crap thrown at me on facebook and reddit, why would I want my last bastion of pure, unadulterated technology news also tainted by the very thing I'm trying to avoid? I want to come here to discuss code and technology, not to argue about Trump or Clinton.
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I think banning politics completely would be a mistake, but maybe I'm wrong. One of the bases for rational thinker is to admit one can be wrong, and to be open to change one's opinion according to available facts. So, from this POV running an experiment and seeing whether no politics makes it better or worse I think completely appropriate. Maybe it'll prove a big mistake - so we'd suffer for a whole week (oh horrors!) or maybe it won't be, and we'll learn something new.
Yep - I figured based on the projects, but didn't want to call out your real ID in case that mattered. Lunch out on your plaza sounds pretty appealing right now compared to the weather up here!
I'd also recommend the `How I Built This` podcast: http://www.npr.org/podcasts/510313/how-i-built-this
> What actually results from having those discussions here that couldn't be accomplished just as easily in a forum where it's explicitly on-topic, e.g. /r/politics or similar?

So many of the technologies that we use have political consequences or undertones—the reason that we have these discussions here is that otherwise it's not possible to have a substantial discussion about the technology at all. We'd be reduced to meaningless small talk.
ConfigMaps offer everything I need for a tool like konfd, and ConfigMaps work with the majority of clusters deployed today. While I could have used a ThirdPartyResource, that would require me to design a custom scheme and write a little more code up front.

Also, there are a few issues [1] with ThirdPartyResource objects including the lack of validation and inconsistencies when interacting with ThirdPartyResource objects through the Kubernetes API [2]. That's not to say ThirdPartyResource's should not be used, but it's not a decision take lightly.

Now, if konfd were to grow or add more features, then I think a ThirdPartyResource would be the way to go -- mainly because ConfigMaps require the use of "reserved" keys and annotations to configure behavior.

[1] https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/issues/22768

[2] https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/issues/29542
So far not much interest, but this post is also the first time I've done any significant promotion. If you want to go with a really solid static site hosting company netlify.com seems like a great choice. You could also always set up a staticland-api server on your own. Right now I'm using static.land for 12+ of my own sites that I rely on and more on the way, so it's not going anywhere.
The best I've found is reddit.com/r/neutralpolitics. It's strictly moderated, with minimum comment lengths and required source links when making factual claims.
"These people like their jobs"

I doubt that sentiment would be shared by most cashiers at Walmart and other retail chains.
That's really cool. I've always wanted something that would seamlessly switch between headphones and my monitors.
I think he was referring to the part where a calloc'd memory page will be zeroed the first time it's used, rather than all at once at the beginning.

In a real-time system, the start-up time matters less than having predictable response times.
> increase efficiency of a complex system (social, financial, computational - doesn't matter) by consciously shifting the radiation it emits to the lower end of the spectrum

You take energy too literally here. You could say a spoiled child has evolved to be an efficient money dissipation system.
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Are you building your own flow meters? That's a fun project in magnets/magnetometers.
>However, I am one of those people who think that Babel6 is terrible, that it "broke the web", and it marked the beginning of the entire JavaScript fatigue era.

Granted, I wouldn't consider this a personal attack. But it definitely qualifies as negative and nonconstructive.

I literally can't imagine how one could argue that they "broke the web"; that's completely ridiculous. If the migration path wasn't explained very well, why not say that? Or if you find configuring the tool confusing, and would prefer it to have "sane defaults" in the absence of configuration, why not say that? Instead of calling it terrible and blaming it for the "javascript fatigue era".

They realized that what had once been "sane defaults" were no longer sane, so they removed them. That's it. I can accept that there were legitimate complaints to be made, but the hyperbole and general negativity was over the top on this one.
> but there's no reason I need to talk about it on HN.

If you start a business, politics impact you. If you are an employee, politics impact you. If you invest in businesses, politics impact you in a huge way.

Uber and AirBnB are no longer just startups, they are very politically active corporations. But they both started, if not from here, then from other communities just like this one.
Another alternative is to deploy to S3/Cloudfront using Stout (http://stout.is).
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Because automation is an instantaneous occurrence that we have to talk about if an industry vanishes overnight?
I want to be clear about three aspects of this:

1. Any views expressed here or elsewhere on HN are purely my own and not representative of the United States government or any other entity.

2. This is not about one individual act of violence. It is symptomatic of a culture created by the types of technology we discuss and implement. I happen to know many people within various spheres that do read HN, and are influenced by it.

3. This comment was flagged, which seems contrary to the purpose of inviting a public discussion, particularly on the thread regarding the appropriateness of such discussions on this site.

If we can't even express dissent that we can't express dissent, that is a problem.