skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
You make an interesting point, one I hadn't considered, which is code readability. It certainly is easier to read. That being said, you could still take a look at what frob and zap do, and figure out what the value of foo was, assuming it was thread local/not shared.
dup: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1329226
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Keep a few things in mind.

First, a lot of companies release their long-term vision in stages. Think of Bump: their first release was a way to share contacts on mobile devices. Which is kind of cool, but maybe not IPO-worthy. Now they're doing mobile payments with PayPal, and I can only imagine they have bigger things coming.

Second, YC invests in founders, and the Nowmov founders are amazing.
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That bridge already exists ... Flash and JavaScript can communicate with each other and in the form you're describing - http://www.happyworm.com/jquery/jplayer/latest/demo-01.htm will use OGG if it can or MP3+Flash behind HTML/JS/CSS.
> You can freely modify values received from other functions without fear of screwing things up further up the chain

Thats a neat way of putting it, that it sort of makes the collection 'const'. I'll have to ponder how many bugs/problems are due to that type of error, and if its worth the small performance hit of not using arrays.

I'm not sure I'm quite convinced the trade offs are worth it, but considering it further now.
You seriously sure Wordpress is at fault here?

http://wordpress.org/support/topic/396524#post-1506114
Ask PG: What's the deal with search on HN?
Hello Paul,

What is the deal with search on HN?

There isn't a week or some new HN member posts a question about how to search HN, most of the time they are either confused about why there is no search on the site, in other cases they are trying to find some article and can't locate it.

The various fixes (google using the site: prefix and pointers to searchyc.com) have been repeated so often that I suspect some users have programmed function keys to save on the typing :)

I see that news.ycombinator.com promotes 'webmynd' as a search facility, however when compared to either google or searchyc it comes up short.

I appreciate you sticking up for the companies that YC funds, and of course this is your site and you can do with it as you please but what confuses me is that there seems to be no net benefit to webmynd from being listed on YC, whereas there is a significant loss for those that use news.ycombinator and that don't have an easy way to search the site. It makes news.ycombinator look less professional and it confuses people with some regularity.

Why won't you add a box that submits a google site search or a search on searchyc to HN?

Either that or ask the webmynd guys to get their act together and create something that is on par with searchyc, they seem to be able to get it to work, and for free and 'unfunded' no less.

If anything you could throw them a bone and show some appreciation for the work they've done supplying a missing feature at essentially no cost to HN. Or is there bad blood between news.ycombinator and searchyc that I'm not aware of?

Fred has indicated many times that he spoke to you about this, but so far I can't really make soup out of your position, after all, I take it that you want HN to be the best possible site for your users.
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One way to find out, ask: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1329334
Yeah this is nothing more than a simple technological stunt. What's the value in this, and to whom? Just because a bunch of random clicks on Twitter or Youtube think something is popular doesn't equate to meaningfulness to me.
Someone commented on that page that leaking user's IP address is a common spam-prevention practice. I just checked gmail and Yahoo Mail, and they both include my IP address in the header of outgoing messages

For instance, Yahoo Mail puts my IP address in a line like this

Received: from [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
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Yes, but the other way around.
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Usually with a negative in the sentence somewhere.
It's turtles all the way left and up then ? I thought they only went down ;)
The App Store has refunds, but it isn't an automated process. You basically fill out a form in iTunes saying you want a refund (and say why), and you'll get one.

I've seen a few refunds. But, not too many; I could probably count the number of refunds given with only two hands.
What I see is you ignoring a significant chunk of the market, and entering a market with more competition, and more fierce competition to boot, from bigger dev houses. If anything it makes more sense to go for Mac + Linux instead of Windows (for indie devs anyway), and in that case since you've written things in a cross-platform manner you can ship for Windows anyway and win even bigger.

> I imagine the development costs to port a title to Linux are fairly substantial as well

If you target OpenGL instead of a proprietary MS platform then there is no porting (or little porting). Existing games don't have the luxury of choice, but new ones do.

(I have ignored things like differing sound APIs, but not a huge upfront cost if you simply intend to be cross-platform from day #1)

> Besides, I doubt Linux users would be happy about paying $100+ for a game if translated to normal game prices ($50-$60 or so).

Well yeah, if you just jack up the price on the Linux game and leave the rest at $50-60 of course they won't be happy. The point is that people say Linux users won't pay for software, and that's clearly false.
Look at it from the other direction. In 5-10 years, there will be a lot of really successful businesses made as the line between TV and internet blurs. Who knows what those businesses will look like, but I'd bet that a few smart hackers who are able to build and iterate quickly will figure it out before Comcast - and maybe even before Google.
The explanation is a lot less involved than your question: what makes users happy is not features, but the quality of the submissions and comments. So I focus on the latter instead of the former. The result is a spartan site with good content.

There's a YC funded startup that may solve the problem. If they do I'll use them. But frankly the issue is not at the top of my list. This is a classic example of how one should give users what they want, not what they say they want. Lots of people say they want search, but I would be suprised if there was a single user who'd left HN because it lacked search. Whereas if I let the frontpage get filled up with crap, or the comment threads filled up with mean or stupid comments, people would start leaving pretty quickly. So almost all the time I spend thinking about HN is spent thinking about how to avoid that.
For those who have never read a mail header, I just tested a message sent through GMail's SMTP server from OS X. Not only is my public IP address in there, but my "inside the NAT" address is on it as well.

I suppose we must add Google and Apple to the IP address leaking villain list.
Why does this matter? I get others IPs and send my IP all the time (e.g. IRC). If I was worried about my IP, I would use something like tor when doing everything. But worrying about IPs seems... silly An IP is just so uninformative, unless somebody subpoenas my ISP or something.
That title contains a bug, that should have been 'square inch'.
Thanks, I never thought about the reason why it did that. It's pretty clever: ejecting a CD/DVD is uncommon enough to warrant the delay.
Shall we put it to a vote ?
$30 for 3G access and that's cheap? It's out right ridiculously expensive! It should be half of that, $15 or so and we're talking about a massive game changing for both the demand for iPhone and iPad running on AT&T network. Seriously, I don't want to pay another $30 to get my iPad on 3G, on top of the $30 for the data access plan for my iPhone.
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That's an insult to Logo.
There's the possibility that the average Linux user is a supporter of donating (to open source software, and the like) and so is more likely to contribute to packages such as these.
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Even if people said they'd prefer I focused on adding features like search rather than the quality of submissions and comments, which is unlikely, I still wouldn't.
If Zynga has the cojones to leave Facebook, it must believe that its games will draw users away from Facebook, compared to other games people are accustomed to playing online. I don't play games online, so I don't know how warranted that assumption is.
This might have been a reference to a similar scenario regarding a Google privacy leak:

http://bit.ly/bCrVll
I'm also certain they can't release them legally.
I find it hard to believe that a programmer of your caliber would make it seem as though an off-site submission is such a big deal that it would take away significant time from working on the quality of the submissions and comments.

I'm not 1% the programmer that you are and it wouldn't take me more than 15 minutes to put a search box (after all, it's just a piece of static text) in the HN footer.

See, all those 'quality submissions and comments' are pretty much useless if you can't find them, what's the use of having this amazing body of content if there is no easy way to peruse it?

The content goes by so quick now that if you look the other way for three days that you'll have missed tons of good stuff, an easy way to search would make all of HN accessible, not just what is current right now.
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The scary part for Facebook isn't them leaving, it's them reducing the Facebook component to a viral spread mechanism for another, more gaming-focused social network. This will allow them to shift the page views and revenue away from Facebook.

There is already a game doing this largely through FB connect and I believe it's over 1m monthlies. I cannot remember the name right now but it was Evony-ish. It spreads the same way as any app, and even has an app, but all the app does is get you to play outside of FB.

Facebook's ad CPMs are comical, but given the number of pageviews they get and the marginal cost (has to be very near 0) of serving them losing that will hurt a lot in the short run.
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I think the real thing is that many people would just like a more convenient way to search this site, I've become accustomed to using searchyc but no one really knows that exists until someone points it out.

Even if it is just a link that says Search that points to a custom google search it is far more convenient than the point that it is at now. To be honest a custom google search isn't really a complicated feature, but if you believe that this site does not need a search feature anywhere I'll respect that and continue to use searchyc just threads about how to search will continue to appear.
In all honesty, I have never even noticed that HN didn't have search. Coming from reddit, I'm used to googling with "site:" and I've always done that with HN as well. My point is that HN does not need search.
I saw it for one friend, for about half a day, then it stopped. Probably just a bug they fixed.
Make something people want, right?

If the majority of folks here want search, and given that it wouldn't take much time to add a link to SearchYC, why not do it?
Erik Moeller's response:
http://intelligentdesigns.net/blog/?p=101

Was on HN's two weeks ago:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1301946
Until Facebook negotiates plans with the cell phone providers that sneak apps onto your phone which relay your location to facebook even without your approval...
I have an odd XSS Javascript attack attempt captured in my logs this morning. It's an XSS attack I've not seen before.
I don't think anyone will know until it's been tried. The thing is though, there's no reason why people cannot have accounts at 2 social networks. If they can convince 50 million people to use their network, and they perhaps can (more than that log into Farmville every 2 weeks) they might have something of extreme value.
It seemed to me a pretty good hypothesis about what the future of TV would look like. Roughly Nowmov has the same relation to watching TV that Reddit does to a newspaper or magazine. The format's similar, but instead of getting what one media co chooses to pipe down the channel at you, you see a collection of smaller things from all sorts of different sources (both big media cos and individual people), and the best stuff floats to the top.

Nowmov is not very good yet at finding the best stuff, obviously, but they only just launched. You have to imagine
what it looks like when it can customize per user.
Time to announce the strategic switch to HTML5. =)
Correct - Yahoo and others put the IP address of the client that sent the mail in the SMTP headers.

Example:

Received: from [x.x.x.x] by web113916.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 May 2010 18:59:00 PDT

In this test case, x.x.x.x is my current IP address, not Yahoo!'s. The HTTP indicates that I used a browser, not POP/IMAP.

They've been doing that for years. It's handy as heck when you need to track an e-mail - you don't have to bother Yahoo with a subpoena - you can go right to the client's ISP.

There is no reason Facebook shouldn't do the same thing.

Edit: Comcast does:

X-Originating-IP: [x.x.x.x]

Google is weird:

Received: by 10.216.27.139 with HTTP; Fri, 7 May 2010 19:34:21 -0700 (PDT)

I'm not on a 10.x address. Hmmm....
"Every other day I see facebook and privacy in the same sentence.."

That's because Facebook-bashing has become fashionable. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the behavior described in the article. It's how email is supposed to work. There is no way to accidentally include the IP address in an email header. They (presumably) do it on purpose.
How about adding this to the header or footer?

<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aycombinator.com>; Search</a>
Ask HN: Is the WSJ's "Pro Edition" a good business model?
The Wall Street Journal is charging extra for a "professional" subscription with access to premium features.

From TechCrunch:

"Dow Jones debuted a premium business news site dubbed The Wall Street Journal Professional Edition in an attempt to get companies to pay up $588 a year for access to more personalized, business-related news and analysis."

See: http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/08/wall-street-journal-professional-edition

Does anyone know how well this "super-premium" business model is working for WSJ?

I keep seeing links to articles on WSJ.com marked up with the "Pro" tag, and it got me wondering whether or not this was a viable monetization strategy for other business-focused content sites.

For instance: why doesn't Google have a similar "Pro" edition of Google Finance? Is it because "freemium content" is a poor business model?
Right. But you're all talking to each other. It seems to me this same info would still be available to everyone if you were emailing each other. I don't really see this one as a huge security risk...
Did you test the problem you described? If it works, this is the only potential flaw I see. Including IP addresses with messages still doesn't seem like a bad thing regardless.
That's a great problem to have.
It must suck for the one user who has had all their IP address's leaked.
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I enjoy how it feels similar to chatroulette. The 'next' feeling allows you to quickly skip through unwanted videos. What felt intuitive and I was disappointed was not implemented was up and down arrows to give a thumbs up or thumbs down. Another feature I felt lacking was the ability to full screen. A recommendation system could dramatically improve the quality. Perhaps based on the amount of time before the 'next' button is clicked. I see this platform as being addictive, easy to monetize and should quickly build a fanbase.

After a bit of digging I found some good videos. An informative video of liquid mountaineering, the art of walking on water, had me chuckling.
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I think you mostly want search when you decide to submit a link. Since you don't want to submit a duplicate article, you have to check searchyc first.
"We will spend months stressing about a job or a start-up, which might affect our lives for the subsequent year or two or three, and no more than a few hours here and there really digging into what evidence exists to support an atheist or religious perspective."

If the religious perspective if based on faith, how or why would one dig for evidence?
I wonder if people end up liking reality TV shows because scripted dramas aren't f*ed up enough for them.
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I was just thinking of buying cable TV today because I never feel like internet media allows me to just turn my brain off and relax. This product seems like a great solution. I don't think these guys need to emphasize personalized/customized content, but rather they need to find content with universal appeal. In other words stuff that is tolerable enough to watch but not too interesting for any particular user, because interesting TV requires too much brain power.
"unless somebody subpoenas my ISP or something"

And in addition to your secure wireless SSID, you have an open SSID at your house that you maintain just for that reason, right?

Mine's named Free_Porn.
I'm a founder of WebMynd, and I feel a need to clarify what we do since comments like this have been raised several times. For the record, I think searchyc is great and we've never tried to pretend that we have created an HN-specific search engine as they have.

We have created a custom version of our product for HN which, like several other YC-funded companies who's products PG thought relevant, are linked to in the HN footer. Perhaps the fact our icon says 'HNSearch' is a problem - maybe we need to change this to 'HNSidebar'?

To clarify - we make browser addons that allow you to personalize the right-hand side of the Google search results page with sources that you value. When you search on Google (and others) we open up a sidebar on the right of the page where you can see more results from sources that you can select, some of which Google cannot, or does not, show you - e.g. searches across your Facebook or LinkedIn profiles, or Gmail, or your own Delicious bookmarks.

Hacker News is one of the sources that you can select in our sidebar and we've created a specific version of our addon that shows results from HN, by default, in a larger widget than normal. That's powered by Bing site search and if you click on the title of the widget, it'll take you to searchyc to try your search there. Some other sources are also powered by Bing site search where we think that's the best way of showing the results. For many other sources we use their own search APIs, like Digg or OneRiot which put a big emphasis on recency and explicit user inputs.

Our product lets you tell Google: "A lot of the time I want to see New York Times and Hacker News search results when I search, so show me what they've got on the right-hand side."

I hope that helps and we'd love comments on our actual product and how we can make it work for you.
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I think it very much depends on how you use HN, if you use it just for the consumption of 'news' then I can see why you would not need search as much, but HN is much more than that.

It's an awesome resource, there are plenty of comments that are literally gems when you're stuck on something or starting with some new tech and that's when search comes in really handy.

For instance, how to start with clojure: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1033503

tell me how you'd ever find that without a search?
Just on the general topic of site search, this is what I use on my site (names changed):

<form action="http://www.google.com/search" method="get">
<input type="hidden" name="sitesearch" value="news.ycombinator.com">
<input type="text" name="q" size="20">
<input type="submit" value="search" name="submit">
</form>
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The existence of God is both fact and not fact, until you look in the box.
Ok, I'll try it for a while. It really doesn't seem like it's worth adding a link for something so trivial though.
Sure, I could write it off as the: omg where is the fucking business model this is such a toy on what is only iteration1! I'm not going to. There are smart people involved and im sure this is a small piece to a bigger puzzle.

Here's what interests me: it makes video online more like tv. ive been reading mark cuban's articles and some others. i want a more tv like experience ie- things start playing instantly as i navigate.

good job guys and keep up the good work.
None of the webmail providers (which is what majority of people use) disclose ip address.
I thought Gmail doesn't include the sender's IP address in their outgoing mail: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answe....
Examples are good...but that wasn't necessarily the point.

Why can't you simply state this:

"Paste a link, and the original photo/video/tweet will be shown below it"

It took me 30 seconds to realize this when you gave the http://www.sharedy.com/ example.

How am I supposed to know if those are not "natural" embeds?
I turned HN into a Fluid app. Problem solved here.
As with most threads, posting an intelligent opinion will probably have a greater impact than a simple down vote.
My guess on this is Linux users are more grateful when games are made for their platform and want to send market signals to encourage more of this.
From another thread, here's an explanation of what WebMynd actually does:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1329398

There is a misconception that it is somehow competitive or equivalent to searchyc - it is not. And that the reason that searchyc is not linked to from HN is because WebMynd is - that is not the case.
I'm sorry, I just saw your "links into embeds" branding. That should work. Thank you and sorry.
Now why would you do that?

If you agree with the need for a search then you could say why, maybe there is a use case that is good enough for Paul to cross that line and make it happen, this is not a popularity contest, it simply gets me that such a basic and much needed feature is missing and I feel that if Paul practices what he preaches that he should have implemented it long ago.

HN is not a democracy, the 'shall we put it to a vote' was an attempt at showing how many people really do want this, if Paul does not wish to know or if he would ignore the outcome anyway that's his right, but it would be nice to see some consistency in the reasoning about why there is no search.
The reason I wouldn't add a link to SearchYC is the same that I don't add a link to one of the HN iPhone apps: I don't know the authors or the app well enough to anoint it as official. I don't mind if people want to build stuff on top of HN, but I have a much higher threshold for making something part of HN.