skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
>"my personal code does not permit me to continue here, how can I withdraw in the way that is least damaging to others" vs "I'm going to use my position of privilege to inflict as much harm on Reddit as I can, with no regard for damage to others" //

What I read at https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/golang-nuts/XoOhzUCl... just now seems quite inline with the former statement.

bradfitz expresses that he doesn't want to use Reddit anymore and that other mods may also not want to; that there are thus lots of possible moves - move to a reddit new reddit clone just for Golang, move to voat, etc.. It seems that if all the mods just abandon the sub without a continuation plan that the sub will be harmed more than if it's moved en bloc to a new site/forum?

It seems to me, approaching this situation fresh on HN with this story, that perhaps you're being coloured by other factors?
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Oh I definitely agree it's not very satisfying from the "why is there something and not nothing" perspective.

But the creator's creator is irrelevant at the first layer. There would be no way at all to reach or experience the "god" at the next layer up. Op wanted someone in the office of "god". Simulationism gives you one without too much existential overhead.
Yes and I'm not sure why the panic has subsided. Has the world really increased its capacity for human population? More likely: it's media meme that had come and gone.
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That Fresh meat your talking about is actually processed.

Cows don't show up as round balls of bloodless meat.
Back in the early 1980s my household was one of the few on the estate to have a telephone. You knew by the lack of overhead cables. This was in Northern Ireland during the Troubles.

One day a distraught woman came to the door and asked to make a call to her husband. My mother consented, the woman made a very odd short call and left.

For months afterwards we had strange noises on our line, clicks and echoes. I suspect our line was monitored after that call had been traced back to us. I don't know who she called but it always stuck in mind that one mistake was enough to emd up on a list.

On
Re: Iraq
Dictators killing their own people hasn't concerned the US govt before or since. They even called the thing Operation Iraqi Liberation.
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If you are an ISV producing code that runs using Microsoft tech on Windows, it is not particularly difficult at all to qualify as at least a Silver-level partner. It's kind of a PITA to run your applications through the verification process every couple of years, but it's not hard, more tedious; or you can get a couple people to pass some of the certification tests.
Which bit do you find clueless. Finding a way to use an obscure law about cell phones to tax people on their streaming services hardly seems clueless to me (I doubt I would have thought of it), in fact it's kind of inspired in a twisted sort of way.
s/profit/incentives/

s/capitalism/incentives/

s/need/have/

?
I stopped using emacs the moment I started using a mac, I kept erasing text pressing CMD-x instead of ALT-x, and other such annoyances. To date, if I have to use IRC, I open Emacs and use erc. For everything else I keep switching every few months between Atom, Sublime Text 3 (purchased) and VS Code.
There's a significant difference between this and what Facebook does where you don't know what team you will be on until after you join Facebook and complete their bootcamp.
You probably got downvoted because of the antagonistic wording of your post:

> Erm, no.

That can come across as a rude way to disagree with someone (it does to me).

> There is no uncertainty, only lack of awareness […]

That's dismissive (it reads as “you are not uncertain about this matter, you just think you are”) and not very helpful either.
Oh god that must be so much fun. Working on projects with the intent to deliver the worst in every aspect. I'd like to add terrible UI and UX, deliberately throttling any connection to anything and the prerequisite for users to learn obfuscated regex for any simple old search query. Make a ton on teaching absolutely useless knowledge in the process.

In any other circumstances this would be fraud and unethical, sure. But is it when you're preventing digital fascism?
I dropped I while a go. Then I got back. Realized it suck even more and deleted my account. No way I'm wasting my time with that again.
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> Until Rust can solve its massive binaries, that is somewhere on their roadmap, it just isn't appropriate for use in the embedded world, where kilobytes still count.

A demo written in Rust [1] won a 64kB demo competition against C and C++ competitors. It is already solved if the binary size is a problem for you.

You can easily get down to 160kB without a whole lot of effort (i.e. avoiding libstd) [2].

[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/597hhv/logicoma_elysi...

[2]: https://lifthrasiir.github.io/rustlog/why-is-a-rust-executab...
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Thanks for sharing. I think it's so important that this gets surfaced.

Having dialogue is probably the best way to help someone going through anxiety. A lot of times, they just need someone to listen and to support them and tell them that it's ok.
This is the third time this has hit the front page this week

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13011872

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13011509
how about just deleting golang entirely? the CEO of google stole Oracle's development toolchain.

you're all idiots.
I feel like some people don't understand the gravity of what he did. He edited someone elses comments. What is the point in being part of a community where the website owners may be editing random comments? It undermines the whole thing.

Let me ask a question. If it turned out that Google had started selectively "editing" peoples email coming from Gmail, would you still be fine using Gmail?
>>Must have cost as much as a house when it was new.

I do remember some $100k - $300k invoices for larger SMP servers from HP, Sun, and the like. For machines that probably had less overall horsepower than my current cell phone :)
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Don't get me wrong, I too believe the exchange control is really bad. I certainly did not enjoy assembling the stupid folders and God knows how many trips to the bank. My main point was that what Maduro is doing almost makes the other system seem like a good thing.

But yes, we both agree that the person that started this whole craziness was Chavez. But I still disagree with you regarding what Chavez, or any other politician for that matter would have done in his shoes. I believe Maduro's main flaw is this attitude of not doing anything while the whole structure is crumbling. In my life, I have never seen any other politician like him unless we are talking about some of these government secretaries that end up being governors or mayors when the actual elected person starts slacking for whatever reason.
Do you have any proof of this? I haven't heard this before and they certainly have an active enough community to push things to the r/all quickly.
To clarify: I am also a computer nerd.
Comments like these (aside from providing a nice link) just make authors of content sad. Why say such thing? You can say "here is another helpful link", but "misses the point entirely"? The point is to provide a self-evident mnemonic, as explained here: https://github.com/staltz/matrixmultiplication.xyz

Not nice.
I can't speak for early early dial up infrastructure, but by the turn of the century the equipment involved was not all that impressive to look at.

A typical configuration would terminate the analogue lines over ISDN, which supported somewhere up to 30 B channels ('voice calls') over a single cable, running alongside one or two Ethernet cables to a single router with one or more modem option cards installed.

We had Cisco boxes in the last place I worked that handled dialup, looking pretty much like this: http://www.ciscomax.com/datasheets/3600/Cisco_3640.jpg
As I have stated elsewhere, the Go community is split into two factions, elites (Googlers) and others. Reddit is the only place where others and elites are treated the same, post for feedback on the google group, which has sucky UI and is terrible to use, and you get small comments because they are busy and the feedback isn't at all helpful. Contrast that with Reddit, as someone had pointed to me on HN, I posted a question about AJAX and Go, I got two answers, one in vanilla JS and one in JQuery. Had I asked that in the google groups, I'd likely have not been able to post because it would have been "too simple" or I'd have been shooed away to some obscure stack overflow link.

The community wants the subreddit, you can leave if you want. Just because one person screwed up doesn't mean that someone who rarely uses reddit wants to delete the subreddit WITHOUT asking the community. This is against the point of open source. Isn't Go open source?
It's used for bug triage, so I don't think bias is a problem. The bias is rewarding people who opted in by increasing the chance bugs in their software will be fixed.
And why not make it opt in instead of the contrary?
There are several other visualizations that can be useful too:

Multiplication
We can see matrix by matrix multiplication from 5 different positions:

row by column multiplication
column at a time
row at a time
as sum of outer products
block multiplication

All of them are equivalent and lead to the same result

http://mlwiki.org/index.php/Matrix-Matrix_Multiplication

Does your mental model fit into one of these, or is it also reversed in the order it is applied? It would indeed be interesting to allow visualizations of all the approaches.
I somewhat understand your situation: I often thought that it would simply be easier to believe in God. I tried really hard growing up (parents both being religious). I thought there was something wrong with me for a while. My sister goes to church, my brother actually believes and goes. And it was in the culture after all.

But nevertheless, I'm still an athiest. And weirdly, an occultist. The viewpoint I have is that it is all a mental construct - something that goes between you and your mind. So when I do "religion", in my world known greater as Chaos magick, I really only have to believe in the moment, and then get back to the real world where I don't. In a way, it is like having a backup for all the things you can't quite explain, and gives a way to focus your thoughts towards goals or having meaning behind it all and so on. Perhaps it is applied psychology. It doesn't require me to believe in dieties, but it is an option if I would choose it (I personally don't).

But I only really got here by reading about a lot of different religions and things like that, along with a long period of self-realization. And that is where I think you should start. If you are under 25, I'd suggest waiting until later to make a choice, mostly because the brain is different at that time.

It might not matter if you actually believe in the god, so long as the basic construct of the religion has a positive impact on your life. Maybe the community does it: maybe it yields to scientific explanation first, and so on.

Much luck to you.
Thanks! I didn't think we've made much progress, but it was worth a shot.

I'm on a few Google Groups, Mailman, Majordomo, etc. lists and I can honestly say that it doesn't make a huge difference to me. I will agree that the Google Groups archives are somewhat unpleasant.
As one of many T_D users, I sure love to be called a Russian bot. So, citation needed.

Edit: to people downvoting, please elaborate.
So it seems. Mea culpa.
A few Datacentres I know have POTS/ISDN capability as they host a fair view VOIP companies. I assume at some point that VoIP call needs to get into the existing telephone network somehow. Also, companies would locate their telephony stack in a DC and route over ethernet just so the kit was more secure and in disaster scenarios they pick up anywhere.
It's not discussed in the article but I'm very curious about the brightest spot in the SF Bay Area in the survey image. It's not Millenium Tower (which I work next to so that's pretty interesting too). It's actually the land just west of Oakland airport, the part of Alameda built up in the 80s called Bay Farm. As I understand it the area was marsh up until then -- that and a garbage dump that has since been covered.

Does anyone know if the land there really is sinking so fast? It's not on a fault so I'm fairly sure it's not moving much laterally.
There is a thread on golang subreddit about this. Users are not happy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/golang/comments/5eqs64/proposal_to_...

From what I understand, the golang team does not want any association with the subredit or reddit as a whole. But I don't understand how /u/spez actions have triggered this. It looks like the proposal of /r/golang deletion is either a political statement, or go team wanted to get rid of it before and were just looking for an excuse.

Everything at expense of /r/golang (and therefore the go language itself) users.
Try Yahoo Groups and you'll crawl back to Google Groups on your knees.
Meh, the site is blocked at my workplace. Websense is really crummy.
https://thetrichordist.com/2012/04/15/meet-the-new-boss-wors...
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That mess wasn't common in any environment I worked at during the same time period. Pretty sure that would have got someone sacked in the various datacenters I happen to have worked in.
Interesting that you inserted the word "Russian" there.
Owned a condo. Code and plans said to install a drain clean out in the main sewer line. Cost to builder? Maybe $20. Done wrong and closed up, no one knew so he got away.

Few years later, maybe 10k in damages and 5k to fix. All so the builder could save $20.

Things like this x 100 are everywhere. This is why building codes are nice, although people complain about them.
>Cows don't show up as round balls of bloodless meat.

It would be convenient though, those lazy bastards...
I'm not so sure dismissing this as "childish drama" is smart. Sure, it's technically possible, but technical possibility does not mean it should be used, especially in this sort of way.

I don't think it's a bad idea to disassociate yourself from a company who's behaving in a way you don't want to condone.
> Edit: to people downvoting, please elaborate.

You're an asshole.
But a 1% chance on #7 is terrifying, no? Or has the world changed that much?
What if you are too sick to jump off that proverbial cliff?
Early on mods encouraged users to upvote everything to counter brigading. Then they noticed that it got them on /r/all. So now they just randomly post notices of brigading.
It's a long running joke on the sub after being constantly accused of being bots (and probably bots created by Russian hackers closely working with Trump.)
This is exactly what I would have wanted for my master thesis about half a year ago, where I wanted to use s2t with good control over the system without having to implement everything myself.
> It's a mailing list..

Except absolutely awful, it's worse than the standard mailman ML and that's saying something.

> you want it to be a forum, but that's not the point or what it is meant to be.

One of the issues being google groups looks a lot like a forum (dedicated web UI, starring, replies to threads, etc…) without any of the good points of a forum.

Basically, for most people google groups is the lowest common denominator of a forum and a mailing list, making it unmitigated garbage.
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Well, mostly because of those services that only implement TOTP, in particular those that I can use with my Google Authenticator App.

My use case is this. I have several business accounts (Heroku, Cloudinary, etc) that I like to enable 2FA on but which only support TOTP. I usually add those accounts to my Google Authenticator App and all is fine.

Except when I lose/wipe my phone, which happened recently. Then I have to go around resetting the 2FA setting, then re-enabling it with the new phone.

After a quick search, I found almost no solutions that fit this. Except something like [0]. I would love to buy let's say, 2 of those for each account I want to enable 2FA on, I keep one in the safe and the other one for regular use.

So then I remembered about SC4 and thought that if I can do TOTP on it, I can just buy 2 and put all my seeds there (or so I was thinking) and use that instead of the phone.

That was my reasoning. Maybe I'm doing something wrong here, but I would love to be able to de-couple 2FA from my phone for my business accounts... I guess it's not a common use case?

[0] https://www.protectimus.com/protectimus-slim-mini
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I'm far from stating that t_d used bots to push submissions up, because there is no definite proof, but what I know for sure is that the US election ruined browsing /r/all for me. While it was mostly porn and memes before, every now and then I would bump into something interesting from a subreddit I didn't know. But during the election it was 90% of either t_d or sandersforpresident.

EDIT: Apparently reddit has changed the /r/all algorithm so this is no longer true. Thanks everyone for informing me!
Let's pretend I'm leading a blind child by telling them which direction they should go, and if they don't step carefully, they could be hurt.

If I can't see the child, should I continue to give them direction, or tell them to stop?

In this use case, the database makes changes to data without knowing what is correct and what is harmful. That is not the user's fault. It's a code choice.
This exactly. I am more suprised and disappointed that subreddit survived long enough to let this "scandal" happen, than about the thing itself.

A subreddit with a fraction of the userbase and activity than other subs would constantly have multiple posts on the frontpage at any given time, and noone cared to look into it or do something against it. I wouldn't be surprised if that sub beat out some default subs during that time, which is just straight up ridiculous.

This shouldn't have happened, true, but the reason for that is not as much /u/spez screwing up than it is all of reddit screwing up.
The problem is that there won't be any collapse per se. Maybe a default on government paying its international debt or something.

What is slowly happening here is that this is morphing into another Cuba, where you will see the vast majority of the population earning these miserable wages, but they survive because of government subsidized food and services.

The worst part is that here the supply of such food is highly irregular so you see massive lines when people find out corn flour or whatever other product arrives at a store. But of course, if you have the means, you just buy whatever you want at market prices in certain stores and just avoid the whole thing. Prices that people living with a wage cannot afford.

So the real tragedy is this boiling frog effect. In 1989, there were massive riots because fuel prices increased, but now people are losing the will to fight for their rights, helped by lack of clear planning and leadership on the opposition. So I would say most people are just thinking of migrating somewhere else, Argentina and Chile especially, and frankly, I cannot blame them.
Has dogma derailed the scientific search for dark matter?
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Trump supporters turned out to be 47% of voters and it's been said many times he had a strong base of energized young people. It's entirely possible it's fully legitimate in my mind at least.
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> What would that be? Where I live, you can't even buy lettuce without a package.

I thought like this before doing the experiment.

That's why I'm suggesting doing the experiment, not just talking about it. This community is resourceful, full of entrepreneurs and engineers who take on bigger challenges than how to find the unpackaged food in a store. If you care about the answers, doing it will lead you to answer your own questions.
Also 'recieve' -> 'receive' (front page)
If enough time passes, propaganda can easily become indistinguishable from history.
And right there is why Sun was such a hit in the 90s and crushed in the bust.
Note that the discussion on the golang subreddit [1] has a very different tone. One comment that particularly drew my attention is:

> So people that rarely use this subreddit want to get rid of it? Okay.

It seems like the Google Groups people are not the same as the r/golang people.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/golang/comments/5eqs64/proposal_to_...
>The CEO edited a comment and admitted he edited it, and it was stupid, and he shouldn't have done it.

Many comments.
I would be OK with this tax iff it was conditioned on a competitive municipal broadband offering with net neutrality and anti-snooping laws.
Reddit actually tweaked the /r/all algorithm to change this.

Which basically looks like a political move and it is kind of sketchy in that regard, but for users like you it's probably beneficial.
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I don't know how they plan to run this thing. If it's owned and operated by a single bank and just acts as an API to the bank, they can hard-fork it every day. But that doesn't seem useful. If they plan to create a system where they don't own a majority, they lose the ability to hard-fork.
Amazing work! I'll be following through your post on Saturday; it will be a pleasure to reproduce some of those attack vectors.
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There is no gravity. People are overreacting, that's all. Spez simply did what other sites are able to do but never admit if they do or not.

GPG sign everything online if you're concerned about your data changing. Even HN could change your comments if they wanted. What's stopping people? "Trust"?
I think for many people nowadays, privacy is a quaint, antiquated notion, like Victorian modesty. Things like social media and YouTube have encouraged people to make their lives public, so having the government gather data seems fairly minor.

I find this all very disturbing, but, having grown up without the Internet, perhaps I'm just a relic from a bygone area. Still, I can't shake the uneasy feeling that this all will lead to a very bad place...
Wasn't the discussion about high frequency trading?