skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I would like to see a game that tests the gold standard approach. Basically a novel economic simulator. The hard part would be building a fun enough game around it, I'm currently thinking some sort of sandbox game/MMORPG.

Upon the creation of the game world a fund of X money would be set aside and correspond to all available in game items etc.
For each paying player, new items would be added that correspond to a percentage of their fees.
You could sell the items directly to the game bank for real money. No inflation so there's a limited number of items available and only if a new player signs up will new items be added.

You could probably even test player characters retiring at a certain level. Say you grind up to level MAX and essentially solved the game...click retire and you get refunded all the money that your items etc. are worth (and start the grind again if you want)
> Looking at the website one of homebrew's developers (or at least the website developers) is based over here in Europe. He might be a nice target if you want to raise a stink and litigate.

Homebrew lead maintainer here. We're chronically understaffed and underfunded. We have analytics so we can make Homebrew better by figuring out how to prioritise security, maintenance and bug fixes on packages based on how much they are used and how often they fail. I've been working on making regular dumps of this data and have been trying to find people who will provide us with non-Google hosting but: we're chronically understaffed and underfunded.

One of our CI machines burnt out last night so I'm now trying to plan vacation time to drive for a 14 hour round trip and pick it up. While I'm doing that someone points out there's someone on Hacker News threatening to sue me. This is for working on software (mostly) in my free time that's used by people (mostly) for their employment and obtained for free. After the last thread on this (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11566720) I had people emailing me to tell me I'm a nazi and should kill myself for weeks.

Everyone here who objects to the analytics is well within their rights to do so (and should either opt-out or stop using Homebrew) but we need to start asking ourselves as a community whether we think treating open-source maintainers like this is more or less likely to encourage more people to work on the open-source software you rely on to do your job.
Well if you can't bear the thought of your friends and relatives not being able to stare at your dead corpse for a couple of hours and value that over doing something amazing and saving someone's life then more fool you.

If your in the position to donate organs you most likely died in an accident. You likely won't have that rosy picture of your family and friends around your beside. You might not have anyone.

What a waste.
> making sure I and every other little investor get screwed for every 10th of a cent so that a few investors at the top who already have loads of money can have more.

Do you have a reference for this? It runs counter to my intuition.
Yeah, you could read it as:

[750K only] gets you to top 1%?

or

750K [only gets you to top 1%]?

I read it the former
This really doesn't concern me at all. I don't feel I am harmed by Google possibly knowing what software I install, because if anyone wants to look I keep the script that installs it in my public dotfile repo on GitHub.

Can anyone explain to me how this could be used against someone? I'm asking completely seriously as I don't see any harm in this no matter how hard I try.

Edit: I do agree that the notice should be more visible for those that are concerned about this. It should require user input even if it is just waiting for a key press to give you a chance to read it along with info on how to opt out.
I've consistently wondered why cURL is so popular in languages with a solid web client(almost everything these days) . I've used it for quick hacks but definitely nothing in production.
We do tell you before transmitting any data (as shown in the original comment).
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If the computation-part should run server-side, definitely use .net
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Well, there's your problem then. You could easily not host the gifs, or use a much slimmer format to reduce those MBs.

If you host your page on a "pay-per-view/size" service, then it might make sense to not send as much content as you can, but instead try to reduce it.
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I don't think you know what the word "prompt" means.

This is a prompt:

"Do you want Homebrew to enable anonymous aggregate user behaviour analytics (yes/no):"

This is not a prompt:

"Homebrew has enabled anonymous aggregate user behaviour analytics."
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The future of this would make a great film...
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A lot of poorer countries are doing this voluntarily. Coal is not a necessity to becoming industrialised
I saw this thread and searched for ".net core" to read up on it. When I opened one of the results, the first thing I saw after being redirected was a full screen modal asking me to take a survey [0]. It's unlikely you're one of the people maintaining the website, but maybe you know someone or can pass on the message that it's pretty tasteless to show that kind of modal on the first visit. Heck, why would you even ask for someone to complete a survey before they have a chance to try the experience?

[0] https://i.imgur.com/8sDrr6A.png
I prefer local tools tracking me. That means I use them, that's why they are installed. And I want them to get better. That's why I'm fine with them tracking me.
A random website, though, I honestly don't care, but if I could choose, I would opt out.
Makes sense, right?
> many are lacking in quality for so simple stuff what you take for granted in the .net world that choosing the right one slows us down

Do you have some examples? I was under the impression that the JavaScript/Node.js ecosystem was bigger, but maybe that's the HN bubble.
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Traditional? Not really. The UK or France could be considered traditional allies. Pakistan was more of a conveniently-located 'strategic partner'. I say this as someone of Pakistani origin.

The people of Pakistan are hugely skeptical and wary of this 'alliance' and have long felt they have been used, there is deep resentment, so it's not even slightly surprising they are looking to align themselves with those whose reputation is less sullied (in their view) than the US's.
"Your privacy has been trampled by pretty much everyone, why not accept one more? They're cute cuddly and open source, how could you refuse them access to your machine?"

This is essentially your pathetic argument. You should be ashamed of yourself, because you know that defaults matter, people don't read a small line of warning text in the console and this is ultimately yet another stab in the back.

Chad and Brad merrily screwing things up for the noble goal of improving their software through analytics: idlewords.com/talks/robot_armies.htm
Don't you share this data over networks from time to time? Is all your data siloed and bolted down to one place never to move anywhere? How do you trust the data to not take a hike in some random direction you don't fully trust?
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89.5 accuracy is real bad. It looks pretty convincing but the probability of a person being a criminal turns out to be pretty low. Cancer detecting machines have probability close to 99% but even if it says you have cancer the probability is not that high (close to 10% I think) because of false positives.

Likewise if this network predicts a user to be criminal when he is not then the probability of success goes down.
I think the, valid, concern mentioned in the original comment is that the notification of this is not prominent enough.

Also Ideally I'd suggest you should be looking for informed consent before starting to gather information of this nature where an application previously did not do it.

Something similar to Debian's request to submit data for the package popularity ratings that is provided when you install debian might make sense.
While I obviously feel the same way, I'd take a step back and see what Brew's response is to this thread / the backlash of what people want / don't want, because it has, overall been a good thing of macOS.
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Not sure if there's a theoretical basis behind this, but I've noticed that the true game changing technologies tend to sprout up along the fringes of popular fads. The social network hype didn't bring us more social networks, but may have ushered in the hybrids like snapchat and Instagram.

I can say the next big thing probably won't be an AI breakthrough, I'm guessing it will be a new way of using existing machine learning structures like CNN's. Maybe a new use for the incredibly powerful gpu's being pumped out for machine learning applications?
I actually have Notepad++ installed and for some reason just keep opening up Notepad instead. Old habits die hard! I have now pinned it to my taskbar and will try to force myself to use it instead.
Top discounts by product category: http://blackfriday.semantics3.com/dashboards/RJ7EP446XUIOLEU...
Might aid the discount hunting process, if not the decision making process.
Yup, scrolling is a little bit sluggish. All sections with properties are loaded at one. Quick solution would be to break down into sub-pages as you said or use pagination.

For those from React world, there is really awesome component, for rendering large sets of data: https://github.com/bvaughn/react-virtualized.
I'm currently using Amazon's Cloud Drive for backups with Arq, see: http://arqbackup.com/ - It's a pretty sweet deal, if it lasts, however no unlimited service is truly unlimited. For example Microsoft's OneDrive was also unlimited at first.

However, if you end up doing this, it's a pretty bad idea to use your account for anything else but backups. Especially Amazon's Cloud Drive. And I also can't speak for how durable the stored data is and it's a good idea if important data is backed up in two places.
Oh... so you're installing Tor? And a Bitcoin client? You're starting to look a lot like a drug dealer.

Let's send a SWAT team and confiscate all your stuff just to make sure.
Mike,

I'm just saying that you're putting yourself on risky ground, not that I want to do something personally.

In fact I'd even consider keeping GA enabled IF BEING NOTIFIED.

The current notification is the problem, as it is close to invisble. Hiding output in a long log message is a dark pattern, I think it did not happen out of spite (you just used your normal shell output mechanism to show that).

However: Such a chage of policy is more important than the list of files being removed by git. Even opt out is OK IF THE USER IS INFORMED.

Currently it's like arthur dent being informed about the highway being built ... yeah we did display the notice.

I know building an open source project is no fun and I can really relate to your desire to know more about installations and deinstallations. Personally I don't even object to using google GA, just to the way it feels being snuck beside the radar.
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This is really bad. Using a vpn or other kind of service to hide that data from them will now make you even more of an outlier to even more eyes/people. You will stand out from being hidden, you will stand out for having a minimal "internet history", and you will stand out to those who can really fsck your life.

Unfortunately privacy is not being taught and propagated to the general public in order to prevent this from harming you either you want it or not.
IMO, the UK should be changed to yellow on the graph regarding the latest announcement...
It's worth noting that there are lots of stores not indexed by Semantics3, and Amazon is one of the big ones they miss out.
> It was not caused by some cabal of bankers specifically doing something illegal.

At some point (still far from the breakdown), selling derivatives that include known bad debts did become illegal.
I'd hire both and put them on the same project.
South Park is on the money again: http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/TrollTrace.com.
Have you investigated the issues with privacy in public clouds, or do you just "assume" that it is much worse than your own mismanaged hardware without doing any due diligence?

From exprience, most organisations manage the privacy of their customers much much worse on their own hardware than they would if they used a public cloud provider.

Want to know how "privacy" really looks like? Take a look here - http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/worlds-...
The way I accomplish this is by setting up an dnsmasq DNS forwarder service. Find domains list for ad blocking / privacy on the internet and add these entries in dnsmasq's config.

The entries look like this:

address=/doubleclick.net/0.0.0.0

address=/gravity.com/0.0.0.0

address=/outbrain.com/0.0.0.0

...

Then set up the router's DHCP to use this server.
I agree with this viewpoint. Additionally, even if the categorization is to some degree arbitrary, at least it beats alphabetical order which ends up being the most arbitrary (well other than just rolling the dice).
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Emacs - it feels so natural that I have an unfortunate tendency to automatically use Emacs keypresses in other editors unless I consciously interrupt my thinking to use whatever they require.

On Windows I always drop Notepad++ in as a direct replacement for the truly execrable Windows Notepad.
ok maybe "pig ugly" was a little over the top, but I do find it very plain and uninteresting. I don't see what the fuss is about, design wise
You're pretending there is an inconsistency in their argument when there is none. Let me give you a slightly (ever so slightly) exaggerated explanation of why you're incorrect in your analogies.

* A phone is a communications device. We know it transmits information. Unwanted tracking that exceeds the metadata strictly necessary for the execution of it's purpose and usage of this metadata for any other purpose needs to be opt-in.

* The browser is a communications application. We know it transmits information. Unwanted tracking that exceeds the metadata strictly necessary for the execution of it's purpose and usage of this metadata for any other purpose needs to be opt-in.

* An internet-enabled TV. We know it transmits information. Unwanted tracking that exceeds the metadata strictly necessary for the execution of it's purpose and usage of this metadata for any other purpose needs to be opt-in.

* Open source project collecting usage metrics? Downloading software packaged generates metadata. We understand that, and use the software on that basis. Any usage of that metadata and tracking my usage habits of said Open Source project needs to be opt-in.
People here are talking about opt out vs opt in but there's a third option: Forced choice. This is where you present the two options to the user (without either prechecked / default) and the user has to choose one or the other to continue.

This avoids both the problem that the user doesn't consent with opt-out, and the problem that nobody cares to opt-in. The disadvantage is it doesn't work with unattended upgrades.
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My recent presentation on Leibniz may answer some questions that have remained open in this discussion:
http://www.slideshare.net/khinsen/leibniz-a-digital-scientif...
Or Haskell.
digitalocean had some good deals for cyber monday last year if I am not mistaken. I haven't checked this year.
It has resulted in a lot of good things. Cookie consent is most certainly not one of them.
The ripping would be the 'exfiltration' as would recording a movie in theatre or hacking servers.

The sharing or getting something from a shared thing would merely be copyright infringement.
Do you use brew?
Have you contributed code to it?
Have you installed something using brew, before updating brew for a while?

For me, my answers are yes no yes. A while ago, you did that, and you get an old version of the thing you just installed. With analytics, they saw that many people forget to update before installing after a while, so they added an update step in that case.

I call that progress, no matter how small. I didn't change that and to you didn't change that. The brew devs changed that. Maybe they would have changed it anyway later.. Who knows. But the fact that brew because a tiny tiny bit better because of analytics, in part from me, makes me a happier user. Now I don't need to remember to update before installing.

Of course it's not the best way to "contribute", but it's something. Definitely better than "contributing" your data to companies, like you said.
Minor nitpick: distributed systems can be consistent too. Your comment implies all distributed systems choose availability over consistency.
Anything that makes Pakistan more prosperous and economically stable is a good thing for the west, the rest of the world and Pakistan.

Anything that gets China more positively engaged with the rest of the world is good, because it makes China more interested in international stability, property rights and the rule of law. Eventually I think China will come to realize that, as a major investor and driver of economic development around the world, their interests align very closely with those of the west.
>Looking at the website one of homebrew's developers (or at least the website developers) is based over here in Europe. He might be a nice target if you want to raise a stink and litigate

You're perfectly within your right to feel conned by the data collections. I myself opted-out after I saw the message when I installed home-brew few months ago and, yes, I am a bit bummed that I have to take these extra efforts to opt out.

But threatening to sue for a completely free software that people maintain voluntarily? You're not even just saying that there is a potential for litigation, but you actually said that because they're a "nice target"?? HN mods can ban me for all I care, but I have to say you're one entitled asshole, and this kind of behaviour is the reason of why so many open source project maintainer burnt out.
Their data had a 50/50 split between criminals and non-criminals, so an 89.5% success rate is actually pretty good. You're right that this algorithm wouldn't be practical to detect criminals in the general population (ethical issues notwithstanding), but I don't think they're suggesting that. They're just offering a neat statistical explanation for a 2011 study that showed that under certain controlled conditions, people are surprisingly good at spotting convicts.
Threat of jail / treason conviction is a lot stronger than the threat of being fired by google.

I can totally see someone caving for the one and not the other.
My job at buffer. It rescued me from a job which left me sad most days (mostly a difference in cultures there. The people were fine). And did so just in time for our child being born (4 days ahead to be precise). Thanks to that I now work from home, alongside my little one and wife, both whom I absolutely love, and I've been fortunate to witness every single "first" of my son's. All while working on things I love with amazingly supportive people. When I'm older I'll probably look back on this part of my life with the hashtag #HappinessIs :)
You were notified, I'm sorry if it was not as clear as it could have been. We're always open to PRs to improve the visibility.

That said, I still don't appreciate threats or ideas to sue me as an individual. That's a massively disproportionate threat to me and my family.
> If you have a judge who is not completly dumb he would laugh you off for such litigation.

Why?

Under European law, you can only transmit such information or track it if you have an explicit opt-in to it.

I'd doubt you'd get laughed out of court, considering the Cookie law was written for exactly this case.
I currently have VS Code running with 7 files open, and it's using 83Mb. Like a browser, I imagine the RAM goes up with each tab, so it all depends on how many files you have open.
> Looking at the website one of homebrew's developers (or at least the website developers) is based over here in Europe. He might be a nice target if you want to raise a stink and litigate.

This certainly sounds like you're advocating for people to - at the very least - harass him.
It harms everyone because it's one more actor trying to make collection of data look normal, as can be seem from the multiple misguided posts wondering why this is a problem.

It's not normal that software is sending data to some server somwhere by itself by default. Devs used to have some decency and left this opt-in. They see there's little push-back and they're making it opt-out.

Almost all mobile apps and a significant number of desktop apps have analytics now.
I'm very sorry to sound harsh, but you have a fundamental misunderstanding on how economy works. It's not the government who choses an exchange rate (or for that matter, the value of anything), it's the market. If you choose to believe that Cadivi was a 'great' thing, you are simply living in a fantasy fueled by high oil prices and cheap dollars that make you think that this was 'great'.

The thing with free rides is that, no matter how high or 'great' they sound on paper, they eventually end, and you see the real problems.

> "Importers could buy stuff with their black market dollars and then replenish their stash when Cadivi finally payed them."

Sounds just great. A 'great' working economy, working around arbitrage and fantasies. I don't need to have 'political biases' to see that Chavez, whose agenda crippled the entire private sector and killed every other possibility of economic growth that didn't depend on oil, would be in exactly the same position as Maduro.
Also anything that uses Recaptcha was mostly unusable, including government services.
I'll agree more in-depth investigation was warranted. The end-result fallout was/is still incredible, and if the media could have played a part in preventing and or mitigating the war in Iraq, it definitely would have been a definite good thing.

However, on the "fake-news" front, do you really consider the government misleading the press in 2002/2003 to be on the same scale as the widespread adoption of the recent tabloid-quality news?

From the studies and reports I've been reading lately, it sounds like the election was heavily swayed by the online equivalent of the national enquirer.

Doesn't that bother you?
True. But the relationship has spanned many decades into the cold war, with Pakistan leaning towards the US and India leaning towards Russia. There was little trust or love or shared values involved, but it was still one borne of necessity, that had endured a lot of bumps (to say the least) along the way.
I definitely don't mean that we should shut up and take it. But before we complain about an open source project that maaaaany devs use happily, let's complain about those other cases first, yea?
Unfrotuantely, all too often when a company is moving some workloads to a public cloud, they take along the same culture they use in their "private" datacenter.
Is there any reason at all to go with anything other than Let's Encrypt if you're getting a cert for your personal blog?