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How would we resolve this dispute? I don't think my views are extreme, nor does opinion polling indicate that they are.

I regularly read papers across the political spectrum: The Guardian, the Financial Times, the Economist, the Daily Mail, the Express, the Telegraph, and often stories from the New York Times and the Washington Post (I like news). That seems like a pretty broad reach. I don't think it's an echo chamber.

I also use Google News a lot. That throws up a pretty random selection of sources on whatever the topics of the day are.

The Guardian regularly runs articles by authors like these:

https://www.theguardian.com/profile/jessicavalenti

https://www.theguardian.com/profile/joris-luyendijk

Example articles:

In Brexit Britain, being a foreigner marks me out as evil

Why the mediocre male's days may be numbered

After Brexit, a game plan for the EU: unleash Project Pain: Nobody wants to be vindictive, but maximum political and economic damage would stop other arsonists.

Hey, misogynist killjoys: stop denying that Hillary has made history

Why we need to lose biased words like 'mistress' for good

and from others there:

The far right tell us kindness is weakness. We can’t give in to that: Urging people to be something as squishy as ‘kind’ may seem childish. But compassion is a revolutionary tool that can steer people away from bigotry

The US will no longer feel like a haven for Jews under Trump

A win for Trump was a win for bigotry. Here’s how we resist him

I have no hesitation at all in describing these as extreme views, but these were just a random selection of headlines I pulled from their website in 90 seconds.
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But these alt-right figureheads aren't your average trump voters. They actually are racist and nasty people and we shouldn't group them together with other conservative/right/trump voters.
Reddit is in a much less monopolistic situation. Twitter is a mandatory medium for public communication. That's which censorship on Twitter is worse than in a subreddit.

Besides, it's a long stretch to imagine that right-wing media convinces people to become right-wing. In my case it's rather the opposite: I've been super-over-surcovered with left-wing pro-women communication until my 30s (whether in media or in programmer conferences), I noted that the mantra "Women are oppressed all the time" didn't match what I witnessed in companies (e.g. men from GitHub CEO to Douglas Crockford and all the way down to colleagues are being fired upon unproven accusations by women), which made me investigate the topic only to find that 90% of feminists' arguments are incorrect, which made me search for more reasonable media, aka "right-wing media" according to left-wing media.

Liberals have made a speciality of accusing right-wingers of censorship. That left-wing media like Twitter resorts to censorship only reinforces the perception that the world isn't fair and severely biased with double-standards in favour left-wingers.

If anything, I wish Brexit + Trump meant the end of the ban on some ideas like discussing immigration or men's rights.
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Virtually everyone opposes banning people they agree with but supports banning people they disagree with.

Try to compare like with like. If you're talking about subreddits, is the donald any more of an echo chamber than e.g. shit reddit says? (which AIUI autobans people just for posting on some particular other subreddits). If you're talking about twitter they do seem to be applying different standards for what qualifies as "hate speech" depending where you are on the political spectrum.
The problem with banning hate speech is that it is relative. Next up, books will be banned because they incite alternate opinions.
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Greater sin or no, I've personally seen accounts get banned for sharing contrary views in that subreddit.

I mean, it's in their sidebar... "No Dissenters".
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It's sad how what's supposed to be an open and democratic platform, isn't.
I think your analogy falls a little flat because 'right in front of the register' at a store isn't literally purpose-built to be a speech platform, as Twitter is.
"you're confirming that humans are designed in a way that makes the abstractions they can make maximally useful."

... to other humans.
I'd be glad for any comments or notes.
/r/The_Donald has in its sidebar, literally, that people that do not wholly support Trump are not welcome.

That being said, I'm okay with that. It's not a place for reasonable discussion, it's just shitpostland.

However. Twitter prides itself on being a serious social network with considerations for free speech and the "new media"... being banned from something like that just because of what you believe is silly.
Painting insults and threats and bullying as legitimate criticism is the main rhetorical fallacy of the alt-right movement. They have a guarantee of free speech in this country but they do not have a guarantee of Twitter access.
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Can we get the same for black racists?
https://i.redd.it/gmlvmb6w9owx.png https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Stop+White+People%22&src=tre...
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corey "i'm just asking questions" moncure. Do HNers fall for this kind of concern trolling?

https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=corey_moncure
No singularity?
It's right in the rules:

- No Dissenters or SJWs. AfterBerners MUST Assimilate.
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Awesome. I bought a NoFan from quietpc.com last year but I struggled to get a completely fanless setup capable of driving 4K at 60Hz (there was exactly one fanless card they offered which had displayPort 1.2).... Now though it looks like Airtop will be my next upgrade!
Presuming you are given free access to a USB port on the computer - and as we all know once you have physical control security is somewhat out the window anyway.
Yup, large (100+mm) and slow (<1000) RPM fans are the way to go. Put it under the desk (desktop to deskunder?), use SSDs and a noise insulated case, and that's a fairly quiet machine. And that's before going overboard with liquid cooling.

Gaming has lots of sound to mask any kind of noise from the case, unless there's something quiet and emotional. I have 1000w 7.1 speakers, and never notice case noise.

I have a four year old GTX 680 with the blower reference cooler (fairly quiet). I've blown air into the outside vents to get the dust out, but a few weeks ago, I took off the shroud for the first time, and was amazed that there were no dust bunnies anywhere, even though I hadn't blown the dust out for at least a year.
came here to say exactly that... storing passed out people in 1 massive bed is ineffective and annoying compared to more smaller ones (but still big by any standards).

nice excuse for conservative visitors and whatnot, but not buying that for a second. now for the big orgy, this would have been perfect... :)
Not limiting speech wasn't really working out for them either. Abusive users was one of the reasons floated for their difficulty selling.
It got all of them for me except "Hexagon" which kind of baffled me. It's a basic shape. (yes, I drew it with the right number of sides)
He's not commenting whether it's right or not. He's just saying people won't like it
I'm not sure why the above is down-voted. There's a litany of evidence to suggest that this is actually true.
http://sealedabstract.com/rants/re-xkcd-1357-free-speech/

With the right of free speech comes the responsibility to extend that speech to others. Because if we leave who is heard to simply "who can speak the loudest", we won't find out when we're wrong.

See also: Mill's "On Liberty", available now in every Intro to Philosophy textbook.
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Arguing that Twitter is so necessary to public communication that it should be regulated as something like a common carrier (perhaps applying the same to Facebook and YouTube) is an interesting argument, but one you usually hear from the left, not the right. The right usually takes more of a hardline private-property viewpoint along the lines of, "private companies should be able to institute whatever rules they want on their platform, start your own if you disagree".
That's because you're not looking for it. Anyone who protests gets muzzled along with the banee.
There is no data other than available to the mods of The_Donald or reddit at large, but there are A LOT of results just a google away, this was the first hit [1].

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/BannedFromThe_Donald/
Social media actually enables these people. A lot of them felt empowered when they found out many other people thought like them.
Ok, so Twitter can definitely ban some people from its website, but "Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences" taken at face value, is pretty terrifying, especially given how our president elect has responded to criticism. Those consequences should be bounded to essentially: ... and now they don't like you anymore, and won't invite you to parties.
Unless there were specific examples of breaking Twitter's terms and conditions from each individual, this does nothing but popularises alt right. Even then, the way they did it, just plays into alt right narrative. I don't how is this benefitial
Well, it is funny even if true. I searched quickly and found a page that claimed there were 15 blue moons in 20 years so I wasn't sure.
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What I find very disturbing in US, that I haven't seen in France for example is marketing push (including TV ads) for prescription drugs.

Is it something people do, go to their doctors and say "that drugs looks great because I've seen it on TV/some online quiz told me I need it, please write me a prescription"?
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> Twitter is a mandatory medium for public communication

What makes it "mandatory" - the fact that they choose not to use an alternative, or the fact that they have not built an alternative?
I'm not sure if it makes sense to compare Twitter, a general communication tool used by every demographic, and a subreddit, which is a privately ran community.
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doesn't appear to resolve.
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I had to find the emails the first article references by myself because they didn't link to them. I was drawn to because the pull quotes sounded out of context, and they are. The emails referenced dont say nearly what the article claims, it's extremely unclear how they came to their conclusion.

The second article you cite expressly avoids saying any preferential treatment was received, and notes the donation was unsolicited.

What major conflicts of interest involved Russia and Haiti? Both of those are a contradiction in terms - at what point would Clinton have multiple interests in them?

The 33k emails are gone, so I can't read them. You note they show her direct involvement. Direct involvement in what? How do you have access to the emails? Have you considered leaking them?
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Out of place but I want to hear American HN regulars opinon;

Is this provacation or utter lack of self awareness as it i will only play into Trumps hand?
Banee? Is that "someone who has been banned"?
Doesn't Twitter allow actual terrorists to post?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/technology/...
It's explicitly against the rules of the subreddit to dissent against their narrative or express "social justice warrior" views.

See rule iv.

> No Dissenters or SJWs. AfterBerners MUST Assimilate
Tried it again with a different message and they said they'd try to unsubscribe me this time instead of opening a link.

Did try again yesterday with a different spam message and had it open a tab though; Zapier was spamming me with some newsletter so I clicked "Report Spam and Unsubcribe" yesterday and it opened up this in a new tab:
https://zapier.com/app/settings/email?payload=REMOVED

Not really sure how it determines that -- I'll probably avoid clicking it just out of precaution and just report spam going forward though.
Most of using this hashtag are modern feminists and allies. The subgroup using the hashtag can only be taken figuratively since surely as hell they don't have the brains, smarts, will and capacity to make the genocide happen.
Maybe now Disney will buy them?

Maybe companies more companies will buy ads?

I don't know. I own TWTR shares and cry every time I check my account.
This will end badly.
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The same way that Oculus () could never market to the Kardashians of the world. Different products, different target audience. Complaining about that is almost like complaining about the lack of dentures care products aimed at teens.

( it's kind of crazy how many aspects, technical and otherwise, one can come up with in which Snapchat spectacles and the Oculus Rift are exact opposites of each other, starting with one receives pixel streams from the outside, the other sends them to the inside)
I've been banned on at least a half dozen accounts for posting anti-Trump comments on that subreddit. So, yeah.
I didn't followed too much news recently, but two that I heard about, I bet there was/will be more.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/10664/video-trump-voter-dragge...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/anders-vendel...
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Except that Twitter is not a private company. They are a publicly traded corporation.
I don't know if you can quite draw that parallel. /r/The_Donald (which I myself am banned from) isn't the entire platform. Twitter is an entire platform. The_Donald is meant to be an echo chamber, much like Sanders for President was, they too would ban people on a whim. However, me being banned from /r/The_Donald is not any where near being banned from Reddit itself. Someone blocking me on Twitter is not me being banned from Twitter.

My fear here is that Twitter and Facebook are now political machines, even if I agree with what they are doing -generally-. Facebook is cracking down on "fake news," I saw fake news all the time on Facebook, from left (re: vaccines, GMOs, The Kochs) and right (re: Obama, Hillary, Global Warming.)

So, which is Facebook going to crack down on, and which one isn't it going to? I get trolled on Twitter more from the Right, but I do get trolled from the Left as well. Which is Twitter going to crack down on? They don't seem to have an open coherent policy. If I'm harassed by left and right, but I see more of the right being banned, at what point does this stifle speech?

Sure Twitter and Facebook are private companies and can run themselves in whatever manner they wish, but if they -do- have a bias, they should be open about it. If Facebook and Twitter wants to win my trust that they are handling this correctly, they should make the data of their bans public. Even old forums have a ban list and often reasons for bans as public. There is no such public face for these two platforms. They don't even have to have names/handles as public, just a graph that shows the data behind it.
The next leader of the most powerful nation on earth already elected on a campaign that openly advocated torture and war crimes and made all sorts of racially charged insinuations. The USA seems set to embark on a terrifying policy of mass deportations in a few months.

A white supremacist is set to be installed as White House Chief of Staff, and his previous incarnation was as owner of news outlet talking in the public arena, presumably having his message challenged in exactly the manner you describe.

I think that your way of doing things has already run its course.
Isn't that exactly the point? One bans for extreme views/hate speech, one bans for dissent.
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Such heavy claims require evidence. Also, it is painting one group as a whole, which reminds me of ...
Yeah... probably not.
How long until this feels dated?

Maybe I'm getting too jaded.
They just want you to provide annotated training samples. Their guess is visible to you, to gamify this for you and make it more interesting, it might also be used to force you to draw some distinctive features once it shows you some other category.
As a user, it'd be nice to assume that if I'm not logged in new USB devices won't be installed though.
People with different views need to be listened to and debated with rather than silenced.
this newspaper article from a BBC journalist is quite thought provoking
http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/journalists-are-helping-to...
They're not getting banned for opinions, they're getting banned for their actions on Twitter.
Though it's always fun to read/watch such predictions, chaos theory suggests we have absolutely no clue as to what the future will look like.
The black swan is a nice book explaining why predictions generally fail.
Twitter is very much a public company beholden to its shareholders.
Honestly, if there wasn't censorship of alt-right views to begin with on Facebook and elsewhere, then perhaps more people would have been motivated to get out and vote for what they believe in, rather than thinking that they had already won.
I know; she's an idiot. I'm not sure many people know how dangerous this can be, though. I'm not sure people take warnings on medication as seriously as they should.
"Twitter finally bans accounts partaking in persistent abuse and harassment"

This isnt a freedom of speech / diversity of thought issue, these people are abusing others. Frankly I would prefer the police got involved and hate crimes and threats were taken seriously, but while late at least twitter are doing the right thing.
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...then test failures to make sure the email and everything worked as expected (like, mail might not be set up correctly on the box by default). And either overwrite /var/log/somefile with ">" instead of ">>" or use logrotate. Of course, the /path/to/real/cmd script, if a shell script, should have something like "set -eux" or at least "set -e" at the top (and be well tested), otherwise it won't always report failures and this has no chance of working.

I didn't (in mild use) see unreported failures after that, and it was really handy for problem diagnoses when something did go wrong thereafter.

But after any change I had to test carefully again every failure mode etc, because it seemed so easy to miss something that causes unexpected behavior. Maybe even had to wrap it in an "if" statement (single-line), "..else mail...".

It would be fun but time-consuming to automate those tests, maybe with shunit2 (or something named roughly like that), to rerun periodically and make sure ops didn't change the mail config to break this setup, or something.

I know that looks awful but I enjoyed it. It might just be easier to use your replacement. How did you advertise?
Do you really expect logic from people who consider the right to have the following views equal?

"I believe people's sexual preferences are private and the state should not interfere in it."

"I believe homosexuality is a crime and all gay men should be killed".
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I was with you when you started to describe a soundproof echo chanber filled with progressives, which blinded them to public opinion. However you sort of pivoted at the end to an alt-right echo chamber. Perhaps it's a bicameral echo chamber. (insert Westworld comparisons here)
Agree, very disturbing trend and it only increases the animosity between groups.

The trending method of improving diversity and inclusivity is through exclusivity. This will not work.

People and groups who don't talk to each other grow further apart and trust each other less.
Twitter allows threats and bullying when it comes from the left. They refused to ban the freaking jihadists. They have SJWs posting #killallmen, #KillAllWhiteMen #maletears in droves. Nothing ever happens to them.

This move is simply political censorship.
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They're not being banned for their opinions, they're being banned for their actions on Twitter.
This isn't random chance. Ibuprofen can cause ulcers and blood in the urine if taken on an empty stomach. Not many people know this.
The very liberal users aren't inciting hate speech, racist, misogynistic, and often times anti semitic attacks on other users en masse
That only works in practice if there are public spaces where you can excercise your free speech. If everything is a private space, then it's fine that the government won't limit your speech - but that promise becomes pretty vacuous.

I firmly believe that if something becomes as big as twitter (facebook, google, amazon, ...), it becomes infrastructure and should be subject to similar rules as the government. It should no longer be treated like that mom and pop groceries store.

It took people centuries to wrangle civil rights (including free speech and parliamentary representation) from their states - in that process changing them into democracies. Before, all of that was completely unheard of. I wonder if in future, people will fight the same way for free speech on Twitter, universal access to Amazon's shipping infrastructure, the right to be indexed (or forgotten) on Google, and so on.