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Ask HN: How can tech be used to prevent another Brexit / Trump?
Yes, I realise there is an assumption in my question that both of those events were bad. I believe (hope) the majority of people here see them as signs of a broken system. What I am looking for are serious suggestions about how to better inform voters of their choices in elections / referendums. I have an idea of my own but I want to hear what others think first.
I'd firstly pick a country and then look at job boards for that location. For example, assuming you mean abroad relative to the US, then I run https://cleanwebjobs.com, which is mostly UK based.
Many votes are still left to be counted in the very blue states of CA, OR, and WA. Models such as the NYT upshot model give a high degree of confidence that those states will tip the popular vote balance to Clinton.
I'm a little suspicious of that tweet. Seems like that's the sort of thing that would show up on at least one cell phone video somewhere.
http://www.survivingclinton.com/

Parked. Talk about bias :(
THIS is why C is bad. It’s not because there are no classes, and you have to manage your own memory, or because it has unsafe pointers. It’s this. And it’s the same reason why C++ is awful even before you get to the "++" part. I wish that by now we had a proper ASM abstraction language that allows the programmer to work with the architecture they’re programming for, instead of all the “undefined behaviour” we have to deal with since the 70s.
But I think the point was that it's a (large) city.
Obama's promised to punch that through the lame-duck session. Maybe he can do that.

That would indicate a revolt of the GOP against Trump though.

Otherwise: fairly dead, at least in this guise.
This seems like the classic, why did it take such a big team so long to build this product, I could have done it in five minutes....

The world is a complex place, problems that seem simple at first glance with the limited information we actually have can turn out to be horrendously complex and hard to solve.

Take Syria - should be simple shouldn't it, all you need to do is support the good guys against the bad guys. Or maybe you send in some troops to defeat the bad guys and restore order.

Which of these factions are the good guys and which are the bad guys?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Sy...
FEMA will for sure save them all, just like before.
Trump loves cheap H1Bs.. Who do you think works on his resorts for minimum wage?
I have a twitter account that follows 9-10 theatres (and only those) in my city created so that I could follow the newest shows and stuff, but all I got was repetitive broadcasting of the same stuff multiple times a day by all the accounts I follow, so overwhelmingly many times that the actual new stuff that I was looking for got buried somewhere in the useless flux of yesterday's news. And overall most entertainment sources on Twitter behive similarly. I just follow the RSS feeds of local theatre magazines nowadays, it's easier, period. Finding info on twitter is a needle-haystack situation and unfortunately I'm incapable of making a binary search as a human.
Of course it is, unless you don't think IT outsourcing is "a thing"? It is literally no different to the factory or shipyard or steel mill closing in country X and reopening in country Y.
It's basically urban vs rural, the cities are just on the coasts for historical reasons related to trade and shipping I think. Global trade means that the economy has centred more and more around highly-skilled jobs that require the network effects of being in a major city. Rural residents can't afford to move there and probably wouldn't be able to get jobs anyway.

Also, being dependent on imports to feed the population would have major national security implications.
Thanks to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_effect
How would they feed themselves?
I think we knew even before this that everyone is somewhat racist, and I mean everyone. This isn't just a white people thing. Most people harbor what might be considered racist sentiments.

How we should handle this moving forward is an open question. Should people never see race? Or is some level of putting your own race first acceptable? It's not like white people are the only ones voting in a singular block. Most of what we've heard in the past couple decades of elections is analysts talking about how candidates can win the black or latino vote. They might now be saying the same thing about rural whites moving forward.
Or the simpler view: this is result of lack of critical thinking or any thinking skills at all.
And a tendency to shoot themselves in the foot just in spite.
Background:

- Behold, the Australian "IT tax" makes everything 60% more expensive here Just Because™.

- There's absolutely nothing like Silicon Valley here. If there is I've never heard of it, and I live in Sydney, the most population-dense area.

Situation: the two political parties here (Labor and Liberal) have opposing ideas about how to implement our new fiber network. I forget who wants what (which says a lot).

- One wants fiber to the node, where you get a fiber termination box inside your house.

- The other wants fiber to the <some other term I forget>, where the fiber link terminates under the street or on a telegraph pole, and you get VDSL service along existing copper lines.

The problem: both solutions actually work, but the second one is a few million less expensive because fiber cable is a bajillion dollars per meter and it really does add up. (And then there's the problem that installers are nailing the fiber boxes to the first thing that looks like a wall because they have so many installations to do and insufficient resources, and then people are all like "???" when they realize their box is mounted to the ceiling... or at least that's what I think I heard...)

The other problem that nobody talks about: 1Gbps briefly got a "oh hey yeah that sounds awesome, we should look at that sometime around 2187" very early in the discussion a couple years ago, but I haven't really heard much to suggest this sort of capacity is actually going to happen anytime soon. And VDSL maxes out at 100Mbps.

It's a very difficult situation: do you create a technically-1Gbps-capable network capped at 100Mbps, or create a 100Mbps network for a few million less? Remember, there's no established Silicon Valley or similar scene here. Sure, there are tech companies, but it's not the same, there's no startup thing. (Case in point: how many .au companies are on Hacker News? Problem.)

Anybody can go out right now and get 500Mbps fiber for something like $499+/mo (business only - expensive Just Because™ \o/ (see? :/) and also due to SLAs etc) if you have fiber in your area (and the month has a Z in it), but that doesn't put it in the hands of random individuals. To enable the entire country (or at least the urban areas), the 1Gbps connectivity would need to be utterly ubiquitous, unconditionally deployed to everyone.

And so, in amongst all of this, all new dwellings are required (I think by law, or something close to one) to have fiber runs installed, and terminated in the street. Apparently the two new apartment blocks down the road from me have functioning NBN service, and I can see the "NBN" trench cover in the middle of the footpath outside the one I checked, so... it is rolling out, sort of, but all the political wrangling is creating a level of uncertainty that's slowing everything down horribly.

Oh, and the NBN (national broadband network)'s plan for rural Australia? 6Mbps satellite. What's latency? (Not much else they can do though :/)

I'll end on a good note though - this map is a lot more full than I make it sound like. http://www.nbnco.com.au/learn-about-the-nbn/rollout-map.html
I like this statement very very much. (Also see my comment one level up.)
Journalist friends. He's certainly always in contact with Poitras, Greenwald and possibly many other top-notch investigative journalists. Plus, he certainly has his own way. He's in exile, not restricted to use a computer. And well, he's kinda good at that.
Well, you say abortion is an issue that feels like a Holocaust to you.

To me racism and xenophobia are the the things that fuelled the actual Holocaust. I tried to outline some of the racism inherent to Trump further up.

To be honest, I don't understand conservative Christians love for republicans. They preach social darwinism, often they preach fear of others. Is it all based on this notion that "The left also treats Christians with disdain"?

My view of Christianity (I come from a more Lutheran view...) is one of 'love thy neighbor' and charity towards the poor as the guiding principles. I consider myself a humanist, but understand that my flavor of Western humanism is essentially the non-secular continuation of Christian values -- which are inherently compatible with leftist values that are also very much based on compassion and empathy. This all seems to be incompatible with the hatefulness I see from republicans, especially somebody like Trump. To me, Trump is a selfish nihilist.

One of my favorite Presidents is Jimmy Carter, and his strong moral center based on religious beliefs is the main reason.
> What sort of organizing principle would the world have then? I haven't seen anything historically like that

The Hanseatic League was a federation of free-trading market towns along the North Sea and Baltic Sea coastlines. [1]

A number of people have suggested that cities (and federations of cities) may become more of a focus as a political unit in the medium term over the nation state.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanseatic_League
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It's a fact that makes people uncomfortable. Similar to facts like "women on average have less muscle mass than men." And I think you'd agree that people from the right would jump on someone who disputed the muscle mass fact as "out-of-control political correctness."

There are facts and there are non-facts. That women have less muscle mass on average is a fact. "Mexico sends their rapists" is not a fact.
This long perspective is hard to ignore. It feels like we are walking the same historical path now. Let's hope things move slowly enough with respect to security that the trading networks stay intact.
Did America elect a modern day fascist?
Donald Trump Is 45th President of USA
The man who planted trees
What will happen to the cities when the realize they need food and other items from the interiors?
Fair enough if the stuff with Trump Management Corporation and his action at the casino are correct I'd say it's a fair call he's probably a bit racist.

Not allowing Muslims in could be seen as racist, but I don't know that was at the core of what he was trying to do. Don't get me wrong I don't think it's a good idea. But 100% of radical Islamic terrorist are Muslim so banning them would have made people less afraid of the radical Islamic threat the media were hyping up as ISIS was taking hold of Iraq. It's dumb and unfairly treats good honest safe people, but racist is a stretch.

That tweet holds little water with me each side has been mud slinging, most of the time it's either BS or an exaggeration.
> The line from Evan, Elm's creator, has always been along the lines of "show me a concrete actual use-case that you can't do without typeclasses", this article fails to clear that fairly low bar.

Translation: "I will never add typeclasses."

There is no concrete actual use-case that is impossible to implement without typeclasses. What typeclasses make possible is an abstraction over concrete actual use-cases. That is, you can always solve individual concrete actual problems with boilerplate. Typeclasses "only" give you the possibility to write that boilerplate once and for all and reuse it for every concrete actual use-case.

Evan seems to think that that's not worth it, which is a valid opinion to hold. But it would be a bit more honest to come out and say it like this.
Trade. The same way that the many countries with net agricultural imports feed themselves.
But US is basically a dominant two party system. In India it's not the case though.
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> understand their concerns and try to assuage them

You can't do both at the same time.

For starters, the "theory of competitive advantage" is incredibly weak. But it's pretty clear that trade represents a small constant factor in the GDP level, which is used up once all markets have sufficient liquidity. It can explain only a small fraction of economic growth since the Industrial Revolution. And it is not necessarily a Pareto improvement with respect to nations -- which is why protectionism has been a fact of global trade for 4,000 years.
Can confirm. A rite of passage for students in Adelaide is to drive to the big Mcdonalds on the nw outskirts of Melbourne, and then turn around and drive home again.
Ireland to formally submit appeal on Apple case this week
Will US exit WTO under Trump regime?
>Somehow it feels "frowned upon" to celebrate that you're a white male.

Clearly it isn't.
Humans are anti-ants.

Ants collectively are unintelligent. Collectively, the solve complex problems.

Humans individually are intelligent. Collectively, they create complex problems.
I feel like this is exactly what is happening in France too...
The media tries so hard to stay "politically correct" at all times that it is absurdely biased some times.

An exagerated example: if an immigrant commit a crime, the medias talk about him as a victim of modern society instead of an actual criminal.

I've completely stopped watching TV a long time ago, so it might have changed since then, but then again I would like to see the French values put forward instead of everyone else adapting to the few people that don't want to change (and, to some extent, don't really want to be French).
LGBT people, of which there are many here, have every reason to be afraid. Mike Pence has been vocal about his feelings w.r.t. how these people should be "treated".

And with the ability to set a Justice and a party dominated House and Senate, it does not look very good for "checks and balances" over the next 4 years.

And that of course assumes you're not subject to deportation for whatever reason. If Trump keeps any of his campaign promises we will be seeing many people forced out of the country. No idea what the extent of that will be, and at least some people here are first generation and claim to be anchors.
> The American politician system seems to have resisted change remarkably though.

Its designers read Aristotle before you and I existed. Our Constitution is an incredible work.
WMO: Five hottest years on record have occurred since 2011
This is probably the best analysis of Trump's victory that I've read so far.
I don't understand how socialist the way he describes it is a bad word. People just don't listen these days.
Maybe true but how is that relevant to GP's point?
Yes, I definitely see that there is something like "political correctness" on the Democratic or liberal side. But my point is merely that it's not limited to the Democrats or liberals, as right wing media would have everyone believe. The right wing (in general, though maybe not to a man) are just as guilty of it.

In broader terms, there's always the party line, no matter what party you're part of -- and saying things against the party line will get you in trouble with the true believers (or those that would paint themselves as such). That goes equally for most Republicans and Democrats, most liberal and conservatives, communists and fascists, etc.

To maintain that "political correctness" is just a liberal or Democratic phenomenon is simply disingenuous.
Sorry if you're employing an army of international contractors through upwork you're taking advantage of globalization.
Same happens with many immigrants in USA and Germany who came from Russia. They tend to become more conservative and have very different views from citizens of Moscow or St.Petersburg.
Chinese Social Network Support Trump
Most users of chinese popular social network zhihu.com and weibo.com support Trump a long time, since Trump declare the election. Months ago, if a american said he/she support Trump, may face language attack, even lost job. But chinese don't like those political correctness at all, they shit on that and predict Trump will be the President. Trump have high popularity in China. zhihu is a website similar to quora

https://www.zhihu.com/topic/19673476/hot
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Just a little link like [^] that sits besides the [-] collapsing link, that takes you to the parent comment. Each message's ID number can be assigned to it as the HTML id prop, so we'd also get permalinks in post views too. Would help with following long threads.
Yes, I believe that the NYT are projecting the final outcome of the popular vote based on all those West Coast votes that are still being counted.
>...the entire economy is gutted to serve the rich who really don't care where the live as long as it's nice and they can remain rich.

Donald Trump is also rich. What if he also make policies that benefit his organisation and his associates ?
Trump wasn't a particularly fiscally conservative Republican, but he was the only representative of the most fiscally conservative party on the ticket.
I don't believe in Elm one bit. it's been 4 years guys. I follow its developement (it's not a hard thing to do after all, it's a snail pace) because its creator is intelligent and there are a few nice things in it.

But as a practical platform to build real apps? No way. I mean you can build apps with any tech, so of course people will try and succeed with it; but it's just a bad choice.

Elm is impratical because you can't do anything with it. I loathe directing attitudes in that field where everything moves fast (http://www.martinfowler.com/bliki/EnablingAttitude.html).

Its creator is a bit on the control freak side and far more of a backend dev than a frontend dev. The reactive framework (the Elm architecture) is full of boilerplate and anything that was not forethought will have to be a metric ton of more boilerplate or delegated to javascript via asynchronous ports (if you have to hide the crap away in JS land because it's impossible to do in elm, somehow it's not elm's problem). The elm community is minuscule and not always great, doesn't embrace new approaches (the ones who do don't stay for long as it's so frustrating) they're more like robots repeating "wait for Evan to tell us how to do that. If Evan didn't say anything yet, you are taking big risks" or "Evan is working on this particular problem, just wait 2 years"

Meanwhile we can build apps real fast with typescript, which in version 2.0.3 is a very capable and more than typesafe enough language.

bucklescript/Reason might be a good alternative to the very closed Elm ecosystem too if like me you like ML.

I think where elm shines is as a simplistic language and sanitized environment to teach people programming. That's about it. It's still in a state of a "research language" (and it's good at it), but is not being marketed as such.
> No, for a variety of reasons. First of all, it wouldn't pass, because Democrats would vote 95% against and Republicans at most 75% for.

Why do you believe this? On a night when the traditional polling and data mechanisms we have come to rely on have proven totally fallible, I have a hard time trusting ANY proposed split.
Seems like a very expensive way to do it.

Look at most of the big cities. All are flanked by swathes of agricultural land. San Francisco, New York, Chicago, London, Paris ...

Yes you can trade - but it's no substitute for having your own food source right there.

EDIT HN not allowing me to respond below but yes Tokyo is an outlier - and food as you point out is very expensive.
I've lived in LA, SF, Boston, Toronto, and Vancouver.

I liked SF and Boston. Things moved a lot quicker. The cities were more populated, people were more educated (I was near Harvard / MIT / UC Berkeley ) and unassuming.

I went to college near Toronto, and almost all my professors were American. They liked Canada for all the reasons I didn't like it. Things seemed to progress slower than their American counterparts, and people were less wound up. The downside is that the service quality in the private sector is not comparable that of the US.

I currently reside in Vancouver. It's beautiful here, but you get lots of rain during winter seasons. People are friendly. It's expensive if you live near the city, but where isn't?

Pay is definitely not as good if you're an engineer... Maybe 70 cents on the dollar. If you're trying to build a software startup, definitely consider moving your HQ to Canada (or outside of SF!), and keeping a corporate office in SV for fundraising. There's less competition for engineers, and you'll make 30% more progress per dollar invested.

Technology-wise, I'd suggest Waterloo. Silicon Valley hires graduates from U of Waterloo only second to UC Berkeley. Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics chaired by Stephen Hawkings is also there. The city is also home to Institute of Quantum Computing, started by the founder of Blackberry.

D-Wave, one of the major players in quantum computing is based in British Columbia.

In terms of AI, Canada is a bit of a talent drain. Most of the lead researchers and professors have been lured to Oxford or Google or wherever.

Venture Capital presence is limited here. Vancouver has only got a handful of major venture firms. Though, I met a couple of investors from Silicon Valley investors trying to start something up near UBC. I can't say much about Toronto.

Quality of living is pretty good here. I can go out for walks during midnight and not have to worry about getting robbed - something I was never able to do in LA. Many parks.

Overall, you'd like Canada if you're willing to trade slower pace, liberal views, colder weather for population size, and American imperialism.

Every American I've met in Canada really enjoyed being here, just as every Canadian in America I've met really enjoyed being there.

I'm no exception. There's something I love about the narrow Cobblestone streets in Cambridge, the golden hills in SF Bay Area, the weather in LA. And oddly enough, I've found that people I've met in the US are more personable than those in Canada. I suppose that comes with the more unified sense of national identity that is in someways a fascade.
You can go with the Diode [1] library for an Elm/Redux-like architecture. And with that you don't need to all the way down to cats or scalaz (although you sure always can if you want to).

[1] https://github.com/ochrons/diode
Please stop name-calling. It doesn't help anything. And I say that as a person who disagrees with the guy you called a racist.
> The far right candidate Le Pen is leading the polls

But, she's not?

Alain Juppé is, an old-school right-wing politician. Le Pen is second and the third is a party that is not quite far-left but still far enough to the left for the communist party to ally with it.

> winning at the second round of the election is not going to be easy

I don't think this has any chance of happening. But of course, who knows...
Go for it. I'm sure 2008 won't repeat itself.
AMERICA IS FUCKED!
And we in the US aspire to live in France...
Yep, there are several.

[0] https://github.com/paf31/purescript-thermite

[1] https://github.com/alexmingoia/purescript-pux

[2] https://github.com/slamdata/purescript-halogen
Thanks for the advice. Best of luck, especially if you're dealing with burnout which it sounds like you might be from your other comments. I'll definitely be taking your advice and trying something in SDL. Maybe a simple SNES Mario-like clone for starters [1]. Man, it's been 10 years since I last tried that, and back then it was in Freebasic! What a wild ride. Okay I think I'm too tired to adequately form a comment properly. Stayed up too late for this election and the speed. Man, what a wild ride! Well anyway good night and thanks again.

[1] : https://github.com/sdegutis/mario-sdl2
i dont know about america but he certainly made the news great again