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I don't think it will happen within my lifetime, but I think the future has to be something like the "phyles"[1] from the Diamond Age, by Neal Stephenson.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diamond_Age#Phyles
> On the other hand, I'm not sure how you come to a political compromise with people that disagree with it (how do they reach out?).

I've often found myself with the same question. What's a satisfactory answer for "THIS IS MURDER!?" vs. "Eh, I don't think so, more like a nasty wart...". I understand both, but I just don't see place for a bridge other than telling one side to get over it.
Yet is extremely more expensive in terms of cost of living.

It cheaper to fly to Los Angeles, buy Adobe Suite ( the old one when discs were still around) and arrive back to Australia rather than buying it in Australia.
At least Twitter will be saved! He won't allow a company to go under while it's his favorite media :)
I disagree - there is nothing complicated or difficult in Pollock's art; he himself states his vision clearly: "I am nature." Likewise, there's nothing complicated or difficult in Hirst's work either because, quite simply, he has nothing complicated, interesting, or difficult to say. To quote the late Bob Hughes:

"his work is both simple-minded and sensationalist, just the ticket for newbie collectors who are, to put it mildly, connoisseurship-challenged and resonance-free. "
"It shows that the white people are still in control - Not the blacks, not the hispanics, not women."

There I fixed it.
If the concept of States' Rights had been more faithfully adhered to, more states would enjoy a greater feeling of autonomy. Instead, collectivism was embraced.

California Democrats were loving it when Obama and the Democrats were in control in 2008. Couldn't they realize that sooner or later the pendulum would swing the other way?

We're about to witness an object lesson on why you enforce the rules even on your own party - even when the ends seem to justify the means. Think about the overreach of executive orders and the suspension of the filibuster as tools in the hands of the opposing party.
I think you have the wrong take-away from that sentence. The point was not to imply a singular origin country culture, but that the source culture and the immigrant culture end up diverging to some degree.

Whether the origin country has a singular culture of many subcultures is really irrelevant to that point. It's just a matter of whether the immigrant culture diverges from the source subculture.
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> Yet again, Americans didn't even consider the third party.

The presidential third party vote more than doubled this election compared to 4 years ago.

> They aren't even allowed to debate.

Ron Paul begs to differ.

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The challenge, of course, is the the system is susceptible to the spoiler effect. Trump won Florida's 29 electoral votes by just 1%. Gary Johnson alone had double that number in the state.

In 2000, the entire election was decided by 537 votes for George Bush in Florida. And the majority of Ralph Nader's 97k votes in the state would have gone to Al Gore in a two-party race. The Green Party lost the Democrats 4+ years of the presidency.
I'm kind of curious why the down-votes so let me explain a bit further. Free trade isn't just about free movement of goods, it's also about free movement of labor. They're not the same thing but they are often lumped together, certainly for the purposes of Trump rhetoric and often in trade agreements.

One of Trump's signature campaign promises was to repeal NAFTA, which defines a class of skilled laborer status called TN status, which allows Canadians to show up at the border with $50, an offer letter and a diploma (in a skilled labor category) and work in the US. Mexican nationals are afforded similar status though require consular processing. This is cheap, flexible and un-capped. I'd wager the bulk of legal Canadians and Mexicans are in the US on TN status, so they would have to go were NAFTA repealed.

I have a hard time seeing a world where isolationist/protectionist policies increase free movement of labor so almost by definitions legal immigration will be restricted, IMO.
Remind them that the DNC actively worked to get both Trump and Clinton into the candidacy, thinking that their corrupt status quo candidate could beat an unsavory populist. Just pushing negative media about Trump validated the scapegoats of many disenfranchised people and has increased the hate in this country.
Most don't, some do.

I myself moved from Switzerland to Colombia. Among other reasons because I wanted a break from the Swiss cultural and political climate.

But for me, emigrating isn't a definite thing. At least as long as I don't have children. Maybe I'll stay, maybe go back, maybe move somewhere else after a while.
White people in the US have a common identity that people around the world who would be classified as white if they moved here (and lost their origin accent) don't have. It was largely formed by dehumanizing natives, black slaves and Chinese immigrants. Until recently, it didn't include Catholics (Irish, Italians, Spanish) or Slavs, and was deeply suspicious of Germans and other Central Europeans until after WWII.

Europe's cultures are based on shared myths, traditions, practices, and values. "White" culture in the US is based on shared myths about race, shared traditions of racial exclusion of minorities (and guilt over it), and their practices and values are not distributed any differently than any other group that has been in the US for 3-4 generations (a large proportion of US whites are descended from fairly recent European immigrants.)
Relevant to whom? While international friendship is great, we don't have to bomb anyone to be happy ourselves. Arguably, less international aggression would make the world in general happier as well.
Then you should consider that there are plenty of non-traditionalists who feel the same way. Associating white and male pride with traditionalism is exactly the party line that's been pushed, and that created this situation.

Until the humiliating defeats with Brexit and Trump, the progressive left was so high on its own supply, they wouldn't hear it. Some still won't hear it, they're just covering their ears and panicking, because they think the media's image of Trump and his supporters - the same media that predicted a 93% chance of Clinton presidency - was actually an accurate representation of reality.

Think men aren't horrible oppressors? You're a misogynist, sexist MRA who wants to bring women back into the kitchen. Think "white people" are just a convenient but wrong proxy for class, and that blindly inviting uneducated and illiberal refugees into a service-based economy and libertarian culture is a recipe for disaster? You're a racist islamophobe who thinks black lives don't matter.

Respecting white culture means respecting the values that built western society, and that includes rationality, impartiality, and evidence-based inquiry. Valuing male culture means acknowledging meritocracy, understanding that respect is earned - not given - and encouraging confidence to accomplish by yourself.

There is really a stunning amount of projection stemming from the left these days, and it's left otherwise sympathetic people out in the cold. The progressive left repeats the right words, but they don't seem to understand what they mean or where they came from, incapable of self-reflection.
>We've created a divide where somebody says "I'm a democrat/republican" and they look at the party for what that means.

This statement could not be further from the truth.

Trump is not a conventional Republican, he is anti-trade for one. Sanders, the favorite among the younger generation of left-leaners, is an Independent who caucuses with Democrats. The DNC was highly criticized for favoring Clinton and the voters punished them for that.

So it's not accurate to say people look to their party for what it means to identify as a Republican or Democrat. They actively shape the parties.
A-thing-like-Twitter must be saved, but Twitter probably isn't it, unless someone like Google buys it and gives it to the world for free.
And what would happen if the ones in power are the first interested in having misinformed population so achieving power is easier for them in the end?
I'm admittedly exhausted from all this, but wasn't there something about the caucus states not getting counted the same way?

In any case, she lost 40% of her party and really did nothing to reach back out to it. And Trump capitalized way back in April on that by planting the seed suggesting himself that Bernie should make the 3rd party run.

I share the sentiment: She lost more than he won.
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> 8. Washington DC

But in DC, marijuana sales are still illegal, which makes for an interesting situation: you're allowed to be in possession of something you cannot legally buy.
I will leave France too if Le Pen get elected, as a foreigner in France, there will be no chance to stay here.
Wheeler didn't really claim that the one-electron universe was literally true or even a useful model, but the observation that one cannot draw a clear difference between a particle in a (classical) field in flat spacetime with an enormously complicated worldline and many indistinguishible particles in the same field with straightforward timelike worldlines is a fairly deep insight into the symmetries of flat spacetime, particularly the translation symmetries. They were also on the cusp of spontaneous symmetry breaking while wondering about the missing positrons.

Given that this was decades before the Standard Model was formalized (one-electron, ca. 1940; Glashow electroweak spontaneously broken symmetry, 1967), I think that the one-electron thinking was incredibly productive (especially since Feynman credits it with some insights into what became his path integral formalism).

It's not that one-electron was (or even could be) fully in line with available evidence that was important, but rather that it connected the full symmetries of the Poincaré group (the isometry group of Minkowski spacetime, which is the spacetime of Special Relativity, particle indistinguishability, and representation theory.

The results of the this excited and informal conversation are still found in particle paradigms of quantum field theories (e.g. the Standard Model).

"Electrons are a thing" gets much trickier outside of Minkowski spacetime, however. In non-flat spacetime, the Unruh effect "is a thing", and one consequence is that different observers will disagree on particle count, and even on the interpretation of quantized excitations in the fields as (asymptotic) particles. Unless general covariance is abolished, which seems really hard to do, none of these observers is any more right than any of the others; the number of particles is simply not well-defined locally. Worse, a generally covariant formalism exposes that this is the case in flat spacetime too (e.g. Rindler observers of a patch of a quantum field are not "less right" than another observer at a constant interval from that patch, even if one sees a huge lake of energetic particles and the other sees no particles there at all).

An everywhere-in-spacetime electron field thing is probably a thing in our universe, though. But there are several different descriptions of it... :)
I don't understand claims about Trump's charisma either. I find Clinton far more convincing, and don't believe a single word that comes out of Trump's mouth. But very clearly a lot of people see this very differently. Somehow his badly mangled sentences appeal to them. But I think he says a lot of things that are vague enough to invite people to project themselves onto him.
I'm on a TN, as are many of my co-workers. Trump's campaign website did not say anything about Canadian NAFTA work permit holders. We aren't too worried, but we also need know that a Canadian subsidiary + J-1 isn't hard to get if we really have to go that way.
If the US was a modern, pluralist, parliamentary democracy, then Bernie Sanders, Trump, Clinton and some traditional GOP candidate may have all run at the same time. Trump would probably have never won -- or possibly, he would've not even tried, because his flavor of populism probably would've only gotten 15-20% in a multi-party system.
As I mentioned, it's on a per-theme basis.

Try installing 10-15 themes, and then trying them one by one. Some will have italic comments, some won't.
> I work for a multinational contract manufacturing company; we currently have plants and employees in (among many other nations) Mexico (full of the Mexicans Donald Trump threatened to build a wall around) and Malaysia (which is majority Islam, of whom Donald Trump threatened to ban from the USA). So, yes, this result is quite... interesting... to me. Hopefully Trump is more bluster than action here.

Those are certainly valid concerns, but can you explain to me how legal work visas don't address that? (Serious question.)
Exactly, Trump supporters are going to be really disappointed
I am considering to move from France to Germany too, how are the salaries there ?, I work in tech too.
Well, one unemployment rate only includes people actively seeking work -- the most popularly reported one.

The other unemployment rates that do count people that dropped out have been falling at nearly the same rate.
I have always been interested in somewhere like Copenhagen for the sane transportation policy - I'm tired of violent drivers in NYC running people on the sidewalks and crosswalks down with "no criminality suspected", tired of the government being completely unable to create a proper bus lane (to say nothing of a tram), tired of no one seeming to know that bollards are a thing you can install. I'm also tired of American-standard 50+ hour weeks with 2 weeks of vacation. I would be fine with a pay cut, money isn't that important.

Canada seems easier since they speak English and I speak okay French, but I'm not sure it would be the place I would want to stay (really only considering Vancouver strongly).

So this is just another trigger to look closer at moving.

Also, I'm told that everyone wears black in Scandinavia. Bonus.
The main reason the Scots like the EU is because the English don't like it.
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Let's remember the results: 47.5% vs 47.7%. It was a coin toss decided by the distribution of the votes.
> Telling people to "check their privilege" is pretty close to the worst way to advance any kind of meaningful dialogue, from what I've seen. Speaking that way manages to be simultaneously presumptuous, condescending and demeaning.

Given the closeness of the election result, it may well have been the straw that tipped it over into a Trump victory.

People who have spread the "check your privilege" meme should reflect on that. But I bet most of them won't.
I was using that quote as an example of how unsuited Trump would be with dealing with the issue of technological unemployment (frankly, I don't think any political leader would be capable of dealing with it effectively, as no political leader deals with longer term problems, at least not in the western world). I'm not sure you want to comparing the US to China or North Korea. Yes, it's technically possible to Balkanise the Internet to attempt to control the free flow of information, but this would be utterly disastrous for the US economy.
An AI system accurately predicted the last 3 elections and this one
And we're right back to smug. You smugly state that it's a zero tolerance policy on racism, when it's going to be the progressive cohort who gets to declare things racist. Specifically, they'll cry racism every time someone disagrees with them. Don't like what the president wants to do? Racist. Have an issue with Mexico? Racist. Mildly suggest that college admissions should have a class based adjustment instead of racial quotas...racist.

Or just sit in the wrong place and you get to hear, "all white men are racist." It may guilt some to action, but it makes others disinclined to help.

Look at the #blacklivesmatter. Look at all the people who have been railing against police militarization for decades being called racist by the recent arrivals to the issue just because they say there is a larger problem.
I don't see what is wrong with including the version in the package name. `http`, `http2`, `http3` and so on. I mean if the API changes in a backwards-incompatible way it is effectively a new package.
Trump University is indefensible, but do you really believe categorically that people with e.g. secondary education only are "gullible"? Who told you that?
> The attempts at building an interconnected globalised world are beginning to fail.

Because the interconnected globalized world had a lot of "buts" to it.

You can be interconnected and globalized...
...but we're going to still lock down copyright
...but we're going to export bad patent laws
...but we're going to externalize pollution even more than we were before
...but we're going to ignore competition and allow massive multinationals to form
...but we're going to maximize labor arbitrage while minimizing consumer choice
...but we're going to try and create a global jurisdiction that favors the guy with the most money
...but we're going to try and weaken the protections surrounding the most powerful tool for interconnection ever created.

This is why people are turning their backs on globalization - it hasn't worked for everyone, and it's hurt many people.
Not saying it's all that bad, I fully realized I just landed at wrong time in wrong place. It just left the bad taste...

For anyone wondering I was also exaggerating a bit about Malta and Switzerland.
Interesting! Maybe they're right. Sad, but if true, it would mean we'd better aim for a healthy monarchy than allow things to fall into tyranny.
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It pains me to see HN serving pages so slowly, so I'm going to try an experiment and bury the current thread for a minute or two. Don't worry, we'll restore it or an equivalent; momentous stories like this one (or Brexit) are exceptions to the general rule against politics here. I just want to see if not having to render 2000 comments so often will let us catch a breath.

Edit: ok, that definitely helped. I think the easiest solution might be to post a different story, let that one make the front page, and link to this thread from there. The WaPo article is a bit old at this point anyhow.

If you'd like to be a good citizen—and what would be a better time for that?—then please log out to read HN today, unless you want to comment. Then we can serve you from cache and HN's single-core Racket process will creak slightly less under the strain.
Unlike most countries, the U.S. still taxes non-resident citizens which probably does something to put people off emigrating the US.
Luckily for pyramid and ponzi schemes, there are new average people being born every decade.
I feel they were biased in another, more insidious way (and they went along with it). Trump has carefully crafter a persona for himself over the years (perhaps even accidentally, by virtue of his personality), where he can pretty much say anything (and especially things no other candidate would ever be able to say without saying goodbye to any chance at election), and the media (and people) will just go "oh, well, sure he said some racist, sexist things, but that's just Trump... you know how he is". Kind of like that racist uncle at the dinner table... you gotta put up with it, but at least he's family, so you understand him better, and perhaps realize he has other redeeming qualities.

So, this has allowed Trump to appeal to bases of people no other candidate could even hope to reach, with the current "acceptable" rhetoric.
> a rock-solid router

Make one of these and you'll end up with a lot of money.
>"If you keep doing what you've been doing, you'll keep getting what you've been getting."

In George Carlin's skit about not voting, he says "garbage in, garbage out" when referring to our politicians. We get what we deserve.
There are many forms of "value" outside that of currency.

Further the sole reason they may use my software it because it is free, any attempt to even charge $1 for it exceeds the monetary value of the software.
Whereas almost no political pundit would expect Trump to be the president-elect, there is one guy consistently predicted the result. His name is Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert[1].

Also worth mentioning is that Bloomberg ran an length article about Trump's campaign team and how they operate. One interesting tibits was the fact that the same team behind Brexit was also the major helper in the late stage of Trump's campaign. That team is Cambridge Analytica[2], funded primarily by Hedgefund manager/computer scientist Robert Mercer from Renaissance Technologies.

[1] blog.dilbert.com

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Analytica
> Hang out more on subreddits you don't agree with.

I tried hanging out on /r/TheDonald, but anything that doesn't tow the party line gets your banned for "concern trolling."
> What happens if economic ties between coastal regions of major trading partners become greater than cultural ties within nations?

Until you can fix your toilet, repair your house, teach your kids, pave your roads, and have your meals cooked for you remotely, I don't think this is a valid concern. The upper "coastal" class depends on local, blue collar labor that can't be outsourced (with current technology).

Rich folk can move to the suburbs but everyone will need to coexist within contiguous geographic states for the foreseeable future.
I think this is wrong in two respects. First, the statement has not lost its meaning but only its effect. Second, the claim that Bush and Romney were racists was not a major strand of political discourse. People talked about Republican policies rooted in racism, but that is a very different thing from having a presidential candidate who is himself, on a personal level, a racist.
But that government was elected by those people. Clearly a majority does, or at least did, care about minorities. If they really don't anymore, then that's a very sad development.
> He speaks off the cuff, he knows how to draw a crowd, he tweets his mind and he's worked his ass off to get around to as many locations as possible and people also respect that. They're sick of pre-prepared speeches, evasive answers, lies and pure corruption.

Number of Press Conferences - Trump 17+ Hillary 0
Ask HN: Good resources for getting up to speed with current politics situation?
I went on a general media/news freeze about a year ago because I just found it distracting and upsetting most of the time. Now it's only sports and tech that I keep up on, nothing political really.

That being said, I did vote yesterday in America, and I was a little blindsided by the outcome of the election results, as it seems a lot of others were.

Does anyone have good recommendations for understanding the political world leading up to the last few years? Ideally book, ideally objective (ish) books. Anything that could help me to get a better understanding of why all signs pointed to one outcome (at least in my echo chamber, it seems), but the opposite outcome became reality.

Also, is it worth subscribing to something like the Economist to at least stay mildly up to date on this stuff? Or just fuck it? Personal anecdotes from people in similar situations would be appreciated.
Spent like a lunatic would be his predecessor with two unfunded off the books wars, Medicare Part D, the 'Ownership' Society all paid for with tax cuts.