skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I'd argue you're missing the most important point in this election.

Both leading candidates were despised by a large number of people. Many people were heard talking about having to vote for the lesser of two evils. Therefore it makes sense to frame the election in this way. What we have today is not a pro-Trump victory, but an anti-Clinton victory.

I don't think the Democratic establishment realised what a gamble it took by favouring Clinton over Sanders, if they had just let open primaries decide who their candidate would be I'm fairly confident a Democratic candidate would now be heading for the White House.
You want fun? Move to Nigeria.
Yes, but high population liberal areas like CA have yet to report.
Let's be honest, if you have to choose between two unacceptable candidates, it's not a choice at all.
This is one of the issues that the social media bubble creates.

We don't reach people that are different, neither do their voices reach us. We are all so connected nowadays and yet so separated.
Those are the real issues that were discussed. People talk as if it's normal that blacks and latinos mostly vote as a block, well now white working class does as well.
> they don't care that he is racist and sexist,

They don't care that he got called racist and sexist.

They know it's a club regularly used to bludgeon opponents.
Thanks for mentioning Redash! (I'm the author) It's actually not that new -- I've been working on it for 3 years now :-)
Yeah I read this a few weeks ago and was similarly put off. I will give him one thing: it got me to start thinking about what I wanted in a functional language that compiles into JS, which ultimately steered me towards Purescript.

I think fundamentally he's correct, but the point that he is missing is the intended audience of Elm. He was not it. Elm is much easier to grasp than Purescript, for instance. There is less complicated syntax and there are less complicated features. I would would be quite happy to use it in a team that isn't familiar with FP and who wanted to use it for front end code. In fact, although I have yet to do a large project with it, I might even lean toward Elm over JS/CS and React. It just seems a lot more straight forward, with less options available for hanging yourself.

But, like I said, generally I agree with him wrt a general programming language. Purescript is a much better fit for that. I thought about trying to write some Elm code on server side, but it just seems like putting a square peg in a round hole. Also, having played with it, the code generation in Purescript seems really, really good. I have no trouble envisioning what it's going to generate for me, which I like.
This election proved that virtually the entirety of the election prediction space has no idea what the hell it's doing.

We live in a world of big data with vast computational resources, and this outcome is somehow an upset—a totally unexpected surprise.
Ask HN: Donald Trump – what does this mean for the tech industry?
People keep saying "that candidate" like Hillary was any better.

They are both literally the worst candidates in American history.

The entire election should have been called off, both candidates barred from running, and start again.

However, at the end of the day, all it shows is that despite that people think, democracy won.
I like the new york times coverage better. It does a better job of acknowledging Trump's supporters and why he won, as opposed to just focusing on why Clinton lost.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/09/us/politics/hillary-clinto...
The fact that the electoral college exists probably distorts the popular vote. People in non-swing states may not vote in the same proportions if the president were decided by popular vote. Of course, this trend could go either way.
Leaving the country over an election like this seems pretty childish IMO. Why wouldn't you wait until there was, you know, some kind of policy change before making that kind of massive life decision?
I think admiration goes a bit far, but and even if he does, it's far better than the default "Russians are bad mmmkay" attitude that most politicians have. There is a real opportunity for nice relations with Russia here. As a European I prefer it much to the war mongering of Kelly that damaged Russian and European business and relations and just fosters hate.
It will be most interesting to see the fallout from this on the Republican side.

Will there be consequences for all those high level Republicans who dared to publicly come out against Trump? Will they still be against Trump now that he's won, or will they start supporting him all of a sudden?

I, for one, can't see any scenario where Trump is as mild and easy going once he has power than he's been when trying to get the popular vote. If anything, he'll be far more extreme now. Will such extremism further fracture the Republican party? Or will they look the other way and act as apologists for it as they have so often in the past?
Maybe in the future, but I don't believe it is THE problem right now. Those jobs in China aren't automated, it is still cheap human labor.
It's not surprising. The left-liberal camp was always turning a blind eye towards many important national issues and importantly about the issue of Islam. This reminds me a talk given by Sam Harris about the blunder being done by left-liberals regarding their dishonest/spineless treatment of Islam. His video titled "Sam Harris : Liberals failure to talk honestly about Islam is responsible for the rise of Trump" is very educational [1]. This [2] also is informative in this regard.

Even democratic supporter Bill Maher has said "Bill Maher: I Wish Liberals Would Have Same Intolerance For Muslims That They Do For Christians" [3]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YCWf0tHy7M
[2] https://www.samharris.org/islam
[3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL8rZTuGfZo
Disagree with this, but will have more to say in the morning/day when I'm actually sober.
> Tonight a large portion of the country confirmed that the US is for whites.

Well, we elected a black man as a president for two terms in a row, so the country may not be as racist as people perceive.
we know not what we've done, but we will soon.

the end of days is upon us, and I fear for us all.
This is not the problem. You will get the top 1-5% anyway if they decide they want to move to the US.

USA needs to stop this "middle-class-men" brain drain from other countries. It is for your own and the rest of the world good. You guys need to start training the newbies otherwise you will end up just creating more isolated groups of people.
The religious right are ultimately tools. I wonder if they will ever realize it and form their own party. It's laughable that they think Trump is means to achieve their goals.
I predict that not that much will change WRT valley issues.

His bombastic statements were populist, I don't see anything on the policy agenda that seems it will hit the Valley in any meaningful way.

Even if there are some trade-barbs with China ... the Valley doesn't export much there ...
I'm impressed! The suggestions from your algorithm contains lots of movies I'd watch (and a bunch I've already seen and like a lot)

This is awesome.

(Since I usually watch movies on iTunes and I really hate dubbed movies, I'd love it if I could filter by movies available on iTunes in Austria in their original language -- but I guess that's asking a bit much...)
Well, the majority of the population didn't even vote.
> Jeez, everybody is all bent out of shape on this. The Republican establishment hate Trump nearly as much as they hate Clinton so with Republicans controlling The House and The Senate how much "damage" is President Trump going to be able to do.

The President deals with foreign policy, and Trump is in Putin's pocket. Time for Ukraine and the Baltic states to become part of Russia.
There is a great deal of observational evidence favoring Lambda-Cold-Dark-Matter, ie the status quo of cosmology with dark matter. The bullet cluster [1] is evidence for two colliding galaxy clusters where the luminous matter ran into itself but the dark matter kept going. The total mass (luminous plus dark) can be mapped out with the gravitational lensing of background galaxies and can be done very accurately. This was essentially the nail in the coffin for the leading alternative theory modified newtonian dynamics (MOND).

Dark matter is so deeply embedded into cosmology and modern astrophysics, you would have to explain a host of solidly observed phenomena to be a compelling alternative (baryon acoustic oscillations, the cosmic microwave background, primordial abundances, the evolution of structure or the "cosmic web"). Comparing to those things would probably take man-decades of work and also require computationally expensive cosmological simulations on super computers, so I'm skeptical we will see the kind of theoretical/observational comparison that would make you sit up and take notice.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullet_Cluster
Both the Democrats, in large part, and the Republicans, in overwhelming part, made a sort of Faustian bargain starting in the early 1970s, embracing globalization in ways that were harmful to U.S. industries but, the implied promise went, would be in the long-term best interests of the country. Partially this was economic -- a bet on trade and comparative advantage -- and partially geopolitical, in that many of the early trade deals had the effect of countering Soviet influence (e.g. Nixon's famous China trip in 1972). I think it's safe to say that not everyone felt, in the decades that followed, that they benefited as a result.

It's hard not to read this election, and particularly the Republican victories in formerly manufacturing-heavy areas like the upper Midwest and Appalachia, as a repudiation of this deal. Many people aren't impressed by either the alleged economic or geopolitical benefits of globalization, and they're expressing that extreme discontent at the ballot box.
There have to be a lot of things going bad for a major war to happen. War is probably to start out in Turkey, trying to get back a chunk of the middle east back. Russia is always ready to oppose the status quo and get back influence in Eastern Europe. They do not stand a chance against the US.

Even if China sees this as an opportunity to jump to (that's a VERY big if), the US can easily handle all three of them. The problem is going to be whether or not the US can count on its allies in Asia. Not because it needs the military support, they don't, but because you cannot be alone vs. the world. The population will simply not support you.

As it is stands now, the US can count on its allies in Asia. No matter how much they dislike the US, they fear and hate China much, much more thanks to thousands of years of history.

The status quo might change but not violently, perhaps giving influence ground in Eastern Europe and the Middle East. Also losing ground in future trade/economy deals which will have a real impact on US population if it were to happen.
There's not really a good response I can think of here which fits with the guidelines of this site aside from basically we have a lot of ignorant short-sighted voters in this country.
>The attempts at building an interconnected globalised world are beginning to fail.

No, the attempts at building an interconnected globalized world are becoming less popular. Or maybe the people who opposed that sort of thing all along are finding a voice.

It's a different thing; Interestingly, you get different answers when you vote votes than when you vote with dollars; and in this case? the dollars have teamed up with the center (or what in america is called the center-left) - and lost to the votes. (I guess I don't really see why you think the center left (or center) has sold out to the far right. This is America, and we like our market-based solutions, but the center is capable of regulating that. I give you the ACA as exhibit A.)

>There is no genuine leftist alternative. It's a choice between center-right "left" that's sold out to the establishment and the far right.Economists need to stop acting like priests in the medieval ages who justified the existing order . The rural voter who lost his job doesn't care about the theory of comparitive advantage.

uh, so really, 'left' vs 'right' doesn't work so well when describing "third way" nationalist movements; that's kind of why it is the "third way" - I mean, not that brexit and trump are actually fascist movements, but they are similar in that they have strong nationalist and nativist aspects to them, and are less clear where they stand on the economic side of things. All 'third way' movements, historically, have had some socialist and some capitalist elements; their argument is that the left/right economic divide isn't the primary issue; taking care of "your people" and protecting those people from the others is the big issue.

The real divide here is between what I call "the coalition of everything is fine" - people like me, for whom the economy looks like it's booming, minorities and women who see that their rights get closer to parity every year, vs... uh, what I want to call the rural poor, but this election showed that it's more than just the rural poor. I mean, I can see what is up with the rural poor... but what about everyone else?

And there's not a lot of understanding in general; it's not just me. I mean, I can understand voting for the other guy 'cause you don't have a job... but unemployment, by just about all measures, has been going down for about all of the time that Obama has been in office.

Where is this majority of people who think that things are so bad?
Not a good thing. Not at all. Multiple systemic failures over a long haul led to this.

Better batten the hatches, we might be in for quite the ride.
> In that way, he's managed to get an extremely energetic white vote.

Does this mean the majority of Americans are secretly inherently racist?

Note: I am not from the US and this a genuine question and no offense meant.
what you are saying may be correct, but you are "overloading" the term "order of evaluation" to encompass atomicity (atomicity of operations like i++); is that kosher?
"Oh well, the world will go on."

Will it though? We have a frisky Russia, trouble brewing in the South China Sea, and the Middle East/ISIS/Syria. A large reason why these conflicts are not worse is because of the restraint shown by the US and the other parties involved.

We have essentially just put a child behind the greatest military force in the world.
FiveThirtyEight linked to this paper on their live blog (http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/2016-election-results-c...): http://economics.mit.edu/files/6613. I find it hard to believe that globalisation has not had substantial effect. Probably both are quite relevant.

For me, the problem is more when people think: a) the different-skinned guy down the street is causing this problem; b) voting for right wing guy can stop globalisation. Brexit showed that the people most likely to vote on immigration/kick out foreigners basis were also those with the fewest immigrants in their region.

More left-leaning people seem a bit confused about inequality/poverty vs globalisation - inequality globally is on the way down, which is why it's on the way up locally (you're losing to the guy half-way around the world, some of your neighbours are not losing to their equivalents... yet).
No doubt they should be rewarded but charging $200 from each dev using it might not be the best business model. You have to provide value that justifies the cost, I don't think that's the case here.
A President who considers Climate Change a hoax. I am now really afraid for mankind.
At least a deep recession means lower CO2 output...
Great day to bury the bad new Theranos!
Your statement here, in addition to some of your other comments, is increasing going down a path of vilifying Trump voters as nothing more than racists, xenophobes, and now literal Nazis. You seem to leave no room for the possibility that while there are undoubtedly racists among the Trump supporters, and that Trump has made comments I would consider undignified, and I certainly didn't vote for him, there may be legitimate reasons why so many people across the country felt that Trump was the best opportunity to have their voices heard. Or at least that he represented an opportunity to reject the status quo.

Perhaps those of us who have been fortunate enough, either through pure luck or a combination of circumstance and hard work, to have escaped the trap of poverty and self destruction, would be better served if we empathized with the plight than many of the poor, poorly educated, rural working class are subject to rather than simply dismiss them as rednecks, hicks, white trash, and now apparently Nazis, or any number of derisive names I hear many of my "progressive" acquaintances use.
Of course culture is more than food or dance, but what's wrong with trying those as a way to have a glimpse into the Indian culture? I don't think anyone claimed to be expert on Indian culture after having a butter chicken. What would you propose instead?
2016 what a year
Maybe time for the US to finally consider Universal suffrage... The scenario look like G.W.Bush first election over again...
What do you mean by "masochistic"?
Everyone I know who voted trump did not pick him to start with, but he was the only option to vote against Hillary Clinton.

Trump could have been a rubber chicken and he probably still would have won.
Lol what are you on about. Plenty of countries have a very multicultural society, and they do great.

Look at Melbourne, Australia, we have huge immigrant populations, and all the different cultures have made this an awesome place to live - E.g. I highly doubt you'd find a more diverse selection of restaurants per capita anywhere else.

This election wasn't about race. Don't project your bigotry onto all Trump supporters.

And the 'world elite' is not actually the group of people that aren't racist, it's the middle class that isn't racist. The 'elite' and the 'worker class' are actually pretty similar in how bigoted they are.
The US has tax treaties with just about anywhere good want to go, so no double-taxation. (And no, paying income tax in two countries is not double-taxation.)
thats the one thread i certainly wanted to start.thanks from my side
Can we stop referring to the wisdom of crowds now?
But those simpletons will then not assign blame to the new overlord or to themselves. The culprits will be immigrants, jews, muslims, environmental activists, journalists or whatever they don't like.
> We need to introduce more Indians to the ideas of individual liberty and conservatism as it exists in the United States.

I would not describe USG as such. No government exploit small businesses like USG. Its the government that first adopted income tax in its current form and motivated other governments. But I digress.

In my observation only wars and natural calamities bring social changes. So the whole structure must fall down on its weight for people of India to see the light, despite it being delayed, it will come. Seeing the reponses here and in /r/india we are in full exploitation mode.

I for one not going to hang around. I have stopped thinking of myself as a citizen of a country but as a global citizen. If one country does not appreciate/respect me, I will move to another. See Flag Theory [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_traveler#Flag_theory
It's only "fun" if you have the privilege to not be affected by any of it.
Seriously. Even our McDonalds is several classes above the greasy, cheap muck they sell in the USA.
The world will go on, but he is likely to appoint supreme court justices who will set back justice and equality in this country for many decades.
Yep.

Been following the coverage since the primaries and though I don't know who I would have voted for, seeing the self righteous intelligentia being so blatantly wrong on the election outcome gives me an embarrassing satisfaction.

None of the established media did even try to keep a disguise of neutrality. Not in the US, not the BBC or here in Germany.

You can be against Trump all you want, but where has "journalistic standards" been gone? If your whole organization is made up of individuals who see themselves as morally-superior while being a Clinton-biased - how realistic is it that this organization is able to get a realistic glimpse at the outside world?
How does this change Silicon Valley'a relationship with Washington and the American cultural narrative? In an world where urbanisation, diversification and a global American technological hegemony are "good" American values, Silicon Valley for right in. But now our values are under fire and our titans likely liable for payback.

Does this restructure the entrenched powers? Or merely force them to rebrand as rebels?
I'm here.

I think he came out of this with his reputation enhanced: he gave Trump a 28% chance of winning the morning of the election which was vastly more than any other model.

I think about polling and forecasting a lot, and I've concluded that the presentation of forecasts is a big problem. People often seem to conflate "30% chance" with "30% of the vote" which is clearly wrong - or something like this anyway.

Silver went though the last month going "25% is a big chance!!" and no one really listened. I'm not sure what a better way to express it is though.
You can't sacrifice large swaths of the population for the so called "greater" good. Globalisation, as it stands now, is neo-colonialism. It offshores blue collar jobs and concentrates white collar jobs in rich countries. It disenfranchises blue collar workers in the west, and causes brain drain in the developing world. All it's done is benefit the elite. Read progressive economists like Piketty, and combine it with visits to places like Detroit. The current model hasn't been working. I don't think Trump has all the solutions, but he diagnosed the problem better than the smug elites. Same goes for Brexit. This isn't xenophobia, working class jobs are disappearing from the west. It's a real economic phenomena. Maybe one day the world will be united, but its too soon.
I have dozens of friends who were energized about Bernie. 250 of my FB friends like his page. I know exactly one person who really supported Hillary. 28 of my FB friends like her page. I saw many people post saying they were very disillusioned by her becoming the candidate. I also have some very liberal friends who specifically dislike Hillary and not only refused to support her, but opposed her.

Sanders had energetic youth support similar to Obama, but more so. I believe he would have won.
ok buddy. flag on.
Already being discussed here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12907145
Media bias? If anything, the media has been weirdly accommodating to Trump. Trump literally hides his tax returns and they just kind of go "Oh well, guess that's that," but they kept reporting on Clinton's emails ad nauseum no matter how many times it was established that there was nothing there. When Comey broke protocol and commented on her emails again a week ago, the story was not, "Look how the GOP is trying to rig this election with a false scandal," the front page stories were once again credulous acceptance that there was something fishy about Clinton. And when Comey once again failed to find anything, that was a much smaller story.

IMO the media's hunger to appease Trump is one of the most interesting contributors to this result.