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That will happen in the long run but that's not what happened the last 30 years. Secretarial jobs are certainly a casualty of computerisation. But the job losses that got Trump elected are industrial job losses, from factories that have been essentially outsourced to China. China is barely begining to computerise its production, Chinese factories are mostly competitive because of their ample and cheap manual labor.
You could literally say that about any culture. No one is trying to fully emulate your culture. To be honest, when people are curious about me, I am flattered.
Well, a large part of the world was seeing Trump as very unfavorable. Respect will have to be earned.

We'll see.
Government cannot solve something like slavery or Jim Crow?
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This election is about establishment vs anti-establishment. People over globalisation. Remember Bernie Sanders? Anyone who has done their thinking themselves instead of CNN/FOX/MSNBC has seen this for months.

Against Trump were GOP, Democrats, left and right Media, Special Interests, all the nasty smear campaign and he still pulled through.

You do know that the wall is already there and even Clinton voted for it? Just need to be finished. [0]

Just because you haven't taken the time to look at Trumps positions doesn't mean he hasn't any. You can find them from Presidents website.[1]

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006
[1]https://www.donaldjtrump.com/policies/
Yeah saying NATO was wrong. But I think many believe (rightly or wrongly) UN is a super government....
I can't fathom how people can vote for him after listening to his speeches. He might be good, but his speeches are crap. Can't vote for him. Sad day for competency.
I used to think that, as the saying goes, we are all Greek. But that is no longer true. Now, we are all Russian.
Exactly; I understand an 'against' or 'maybe this will change things' vote, but not actually supporting the man.
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Sincerely, I am confused by this analysis. All the media outlets have talked ad-infinitum about how Trump supporters are predominantly uneducated whites, typically from rural areas, and how college educated whites support Clinton.

Hillary without question had Wall Street, Silicon Valley, and the DC circuit behind her, which are large epicenters of wealthy white, elite people.

There is without doubt a terrifying aspect of white nationalism behind Trump, but unless you have statistics I am not aware of, the white elites, maybe outside of Texas, were not behind Trump.

EDIT - to add what I believe is a hopeful note, Trump's election isn't a great reading of the pulse of the nation; Bernie Sanders could have been in my opinion, easily, the president elect. The DNC selected the less competitive candidate as the result of a dishonest primary.
The threadstarter is absolutely a fucking moron.
Maybe... but that's what people said after the primary elections and it wasn't toned down much. At the end of the day, Trump is a nihilist and an egotist that feeds of off the passion of his supporters. "Trump" the persona is what fired up his supporters and is what won him the election. I think he will stick with it.
Was this a result of protest votes against Hillary or do people genuinely support a Trump presidency ? Would Bernie have fared better against Trump had he been the democratic nominee ?
Racists, bigots and misogynists. You left out misogynists.

Well, that and y'all have got a serious hardon for Putin.
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Two reasons -

1. Potential for a 20% reduction in corporate income tax, a huge boon for small business owners.

2. Repeal Obamacare and it's obscene costs to small business.
Ask HN: Can tech solve broken polls?
I'm trying to understand why the polls were so off?
Are people lying, or are the polls asking the wrong questions?

Or asking the wrong people?

Is there anyway tech can help solve this?
Believe it or not, there is a fairly solid scientific basis for that.
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> A bunch of elites decided to create their own trans-national utopia

Doesn't Trump belong to that elite you are talking about?
America's greatest outcome today was their shunning of the Media. I am so proud. As a Skeptic and outsider, 95% of the media was anti trump. America made its own choice, and it has the balls to stand by it and make a success of it.
With some glee I have saved a screenshot from the huffpo website, confidently putting Trump's chances at about 1.7% I think it was.
This is the issue. People did not vote Trump to satisfy hateful racism and sexism, they voted Trump despite everyone painting them as racist sexist pigs.

The other option was so far from what they wanted they had little choice. Please try to understand why people disagree with you, why the majority disagrees with you.
Data requests of Silicon Valley companies by the government may increase.

The list of people deemed "suspect" and spied on by the government using private data may grow and the people spied on may become, on average, browner and more Muslim.
Great point; there is also an additional dimension to this. It is impossible to emphasize just how important security is to the blooming of creative financial institutions and highly specialized & sophisticated economies. Its because the US and Europe have created a system where, say, a legal framework exists to get retribution in case of genuine foul play in either country, that we can have sophisticated trading channels. Without the security and stability provided by an overwhelmingly powerful, but mostly reasonable military, we don't have to worry about our trading networks being taken apart at will (basically, eliminate that risk). If that security apparatus ceases to exist, so will the advanced economy that the west has created (which has been slowly expanding, to other nations as well).

e.g. look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_of_the_Third_Century. The sophisticated trading network of the Roman empire quickly disintegrated and was one of the principle causes for its eventual demise.
I agree her gender is an issue for some, but she got beaten by Obama before, and he had stronger handicaps than her (race and a "funny name"). I think it boils down to her lack of charisma and being seen as "the establishment".
If you're interested in moving to Switzerland then the lad who wrote the post below is semi-frequently on HN iirc. I had a brief email back-and-forth with him which was pretty useful and informative (though I ended up staying put).

https://medium.com/@iwaninzurich/eight-reasons-why-i-moved-t...
The last point is super interesting. More and more the democrats are coming to represent the upper class and republicans the lower.

This election was hugely divided across class lines. Technically it's by college education status. But I believe that is highly correlated with social class.
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Plain and simply, we don't agree on your labels and your assessments of his character. It's not complicated.
> but Trump's rhetoric is far more Hawkish than Obama or Clinton.

I must've missed all those times when he was railing against Russia or fixing a proxy war with them in Syria.
Right now, Trump actually have the majority popular vote as well, with 700.000 more votes.
There is API for printers on ChromeOS - printerProvider. There are some apps that use it, maybe something will work for you:

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https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/wifi-printer-drive...
> Are there any other "non-usual" recommendations for writing code?

Pretty unusual, but after years I finally managed to find an alternative to Consolas I liked enough in Oxygen Mono—albeit I turned down a lot of really good fonts just because they had too much interline spacing and I couldn't tweak in Sublime.

Pretty much no Unicode support outside of common accents (good for every European language at least) and common programming symbols, though. Still I edited in em and en dashes and never found it lacking since.
I don't live in the US (anymore), so it doesn't really affect me.

You bring up some valid points. But a lot of what you mention is very much bound to state administration and legislation. Of course federal laws and the supreme court can have a big impact, but the states still have a lot of say in the matter.

And even if Clinton had won, with the current climate, she wouldn't get much through Congress or Senate.

Then again, a different candidate than her might have helped to flip the senate.

What I mostly meant by that: it's done, he won. Have to deal with it now.
Where did I claim the moral high ground? I was just pointing out that the article is one-eyed.

I don't even live in America, so it's not like I consider myself an American liberal. In fact, in my country, the Liberal Party are the conservatives, and being centre-left, I wouldn't identify with them either.
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Why do russia need baltic states? Name at least one reason. It seems that's just baltic horror. I can see only few microscopic countries without resources of strategic significance but with dead economies and most of young population in other EU countries. But yeah "Russia really wants to conquer us"
Something I've been wondering about:

We're seeing this pattern where the coasts of many countries are cosmopolitan and well-integrated into the world economy, but the interiors are very conservative and nationalistic. Scotland & London vs. Wales & the rest of Britain. The U.S. West Coast & Northeast vs. the Farm Belt, Rust Belt, and Mountain states. Croatia & Slovenia vs. the rest of Yugoslavia. The Baltic Republics vs. the rest of the USSR. Even in a Red State like Texas, Houston (on the coast) has gone democratic.

What happens if economic ties between coastal regions of major trading partners become greater than cultural ties within nations?

Here in California, some of the proposals about sending all the immigrants back to where they came from seem absurd. The economy would cease to function. On one of my teams of 10 people at Google, we had immigrants from Iceland, England, Vietnam, China, Taiwan, and India, and I was the only native-born American citizen. California would sooner secede than deport all of its immigrants.

What if it actually came to that? If push came to shove and the interior decided to push a nativist, nationalist agenda, what if the coastal regions that benefit significantly from trade were to say "Okay, you guys can play with yourself, we're going to play with the rest of the world." Scotland has threatened to do exactly that, and is planning on holding another referendum on independence if Britain actually follows through on Brexit.

What sort of organizing principle would the world have then? I haven't seen anything historically like that - the closest would be the Roman Empire that rimmed the Mediterranean. For most of recorded history, the primary means of production has been land and so fights have been over land, but over the last 150 years or so (contemporaneous with the nation-state as a social organizing principle, BTW), the primary means of production shifted to capital, and now it's shifting to information. What kind of social organizing principle does that imply?
I remember reading him being quoted as wanting to get out of Syria and to stop antagonizing the Russians. That seems less confrontational than Obama and certainly Clinton's position.
No, the fucking problem is that you fucking racists want to group all god damned white people under some monolithic banner of whiteness and call that a fucking culture.

It's the god damned racists in this fucking country that have erased or at least attempted to erase the ethnic origins of groups you place under the banner of whiteness. German? No, you're white now. Irish? Nope, white. Italian? Nope, white. Because remember, it's apparently whites against blacks right?

How about you fuckers stop trying to make this a black and white world and instead just fuck off back into your caves and under your rocks where your survivalist bunkers are. So fucking sick of you confederate flag waving mother fuckers.
I suspect that you're in a minority of Indians that think comments from white guys who's understanding of Indian culture(s) doesn't go much beyond butter chicken and arranged marriages opining on Indian cultural problems with women would be helpful though. Even if we're focusing on Indians that agree that India has unique cultural problems with the treatment of women.

And one of the driving forces behind Trump's success is a whole lot of foreign/liberal/establishment/non-insider figures pontificating about how that sort of person's culture must be pretty messed up if Trump is expected to pick up votes from them. (Just because a point of view is justified doesn't mean it doesn't provoke a backlash)
> It depends what Thiel's objectives are.

SCOTUS nomination?
The Bay Area's economy is heavily affected by the US economy. Based on data so far, Trump's election is having an effect on the US economy.
Despite the abrasive tone of this article, it is true that Elm misses a convenient level of abstraction (whether that be type classes, module functors or whatever).

I spent the first few weeks of my first Elm project fighting against the language, trying to emulate type classes, build abstractions, do things like I would in other languages and generally having a bad time. Eventually, and with slightly bad grace, I conceded to the current limitations of the language and did things the Elm way, accepting that sometimes things are bit boilerplatey and cumbersome.

Now my second large Elm project is currently in its first round of QA, and the difference to similar projects in Angular or React is striking. There are no (and I mean ZERO) runtime errors that have popped up during testing. When QA find a bug, its instantly clear exactly where in the codebase the problem is, and usually simple to fix. So far most serious issues have ended up ultimately being consequences of a poor choice of design/modelling that, when fixed, has ended up in a higher quality overall codebase.

Yes, things could be better, and I'm sure they eventually will be. We would all like the kind of abstractions you talk about in your article, but in my real-life experience it turns out that you don't need them to write powerful and high quality code.

And hey, when these kinds of abstractions do arrive I'll just refactor my code, and know that the compiler will tell me when its done. Imagine doing that in Javascript.
You're delusional. Trump has paid more in taxes than you will make in your entire life. Perhaps not income taxes, but some form or another.

He'd be in jail if he broke the law.
I don't agree with Trump either, I was trying to question the idea that American politics are based almost exclusively on image and that makes it impossible that this election could have been influenced by actual issues.
Or how climate change is borne out by the facts, or how blacks were enslaved for hundreds of years by whites, or the crusades happened, on and on and on.

Everyone has their own little safe-space and their own desire to stifle others speech (voter suppression?). Just some hard statements follow from fact and some do not.
You are confusing shared ideology with PC. The point of PC is that it's bipartisan (or "hegemon", in a vocabulary we should rediscover). Every group will have its taboos and shared beliefs, that's not PC.
I think for the most part, Pence would be the most experienced in the Trump/Pence duo. I would look into Pence's government style.
I'm not a Trump supporter, but he is no idiot. He's a 'populist genius'. The leaders in 'Idiocracy' were truly idiots.

He was 'charismatic' in kind of a perverse/uncliassical way ... enough to motivate enough people to tip the scales.

I think we will finally see the 'real Donald Trump' when he starts doing the actual work. I'm very interested, but honestly, I'm worried, I think the risk is high.
Over a million voters isn't a big difference? 2/5 last elections won by the loser of the popular vote seems extremely problematic.

Phrased differently, Democrats have won the popular vote in 4/5 of the most recent elections but only won office in two of them. In the 21st century, winning the most votes for president only results in a 50% success rate for Democratic presidential candidates.
> "if you're white and wealthy, I've obviously got your back"

What disappointments me more than anything is how all the minority American citizens will feel knowing that the majority of the people they know preferred a man who has for many months publicly and explicitly insulted their own race and ethnicity. How do you reconcile that? I have no idea.
You want 100℅ solved, when most people just want the government to help nudge society in the right direction. Civil rights and anti discrimination laws are doing that.
Just to add:

Trump won despite being massively out-spent, despite his party being against his nomination, despite the entire mainstream media being against him, despite his business "issues", and despite all the publicised gaffes and scandals. In the face of that he seems to have won significantly more of the "white women" vote than Clinton.

Anyone seriously believing he won due to bigotry etc. needs to reassess. The USA is a better country than that, and he has won convincingly.

Edit: I forgot Wall Street. Almost unanimous support for Clinton.
Its also culture. Some Americans are fed up with having to be apologetic for supporting their own culture, wanting to maintain it, not wanting it to change drastically. They see hypocrisy in being told to respect other cultures, while being labeled racist and bigot for wanting to maintain their own.
IT and software jobs are as white collar as it gets. Call centers, maybe that's a new economy blue collar.
I took a look at his economic plan. He seems to want to do everything at the same time, if hid campaign was a startup it would never be funded you can't present 3 bullet points as a pitch deck.
Wrongly. They believe that wrongly.
Hopefully they were simply campaign promises to get votes.
Wtf? Why would anyone not take this bet? Even if you didn't think Trump was going to win (I didn't) this is obviously absurd EV.
You don't need 12 of them, and 8 of them won't be here next year
The media is entirely biased towards moral liberalism and I thought it was an "open secret" that only the most self-deluded didn't know about. Of course they're going to be biased towards Clinton, she's the morally liberal candidate. That's their job. If they don't go along with it, surely they get fired. They provide an avenue for confirmation bias, which is interesting because it's a self-fulfilling prophecy, considering most people are liberal because of the strong influence of the (biased) media on them.
The problem is that in your example there are 70 % who are pro gay marriage and you cannot ignore their voice either.
What other options were available to achieve their goals?

I'd argue that Pence brought quite a lot to the Trump campaign in reeling in Republicans skeptical that Trump would champion conservative causes.

What did Kaine bring to the Clinton campaign? Not much it appears.
I'd completely forgotten about Scott Adams. Now we're never going to hear the end of it.

But I seriously question the idea that Trump can't do much damage because of the Republican controlled House and Senate. The Republicans have been quite eager to do damage to the US without Trump.
Indeed. That's why I think it might have made sense back in Ampere's time. The classification of these regimes (electrostatic, magnetostatic, electrodynamic) is more recent, and Ampere's own theory of electrodynamics deals more with what we term "magnetostatic" today.
As I pointed out above, the status quo is actually pretty good.

And yes, I'm aware of Brexit at all. I think that Trump learned more about Brexit than we learned about Remain, Brexit being the politics of complaint.
> This is the same attitude of Boko Haram.

Interesting. You really think more than half of US citizens are just like Boko Haram?
Media obsession with a bullshit email scandal helped Trump to the White House
> I suspect he's going to find his hands tied nearly as much as Obama.

Yeah no, he can just give free reign to Pence (as he explicitly said he'd do) and establishment GOP and they'll let him have his pet hates. Obama was "the enemy" and opposed at every turn, Trump just has to give the GOP their Supreme Court nominee and they'll be more than happy to indulge him.
> Frequently, the people of "X immigrant culture" care a lot about 'preserving their heritage', because it's a constant struggle for them

A friend of mine who is a first generation Indian immigrant observed exactly same thing. He noticed his conservative Indian parents had become more extreme in their beliefs over time, as a sort of reaction against American culture. His parents feel a bit closed off from the rest of American society since they never fully integrated. However, simultaneously, he noticed that when he went to India, people there were actually becoming more liberal and tolerant over time, as compared to his parents who were becoming more traditional.

A very interesting phenomenon.
That's exactly why I'm glad that Donald Trump will soon be our president. He will ensure we serve the American people before tending to the desires of other nations.
Also Canadian (damn, we sound so smug now), I've been saying the same thing. But seems Americans think Socialism is a bad word. They've forgotten the opportunity they had with Bernie.

On the flipside, seems the "potentially" closest candidate to Bernie in this election is Trump. He actually has talked about controlling Wall Street, bringing back manufacturing jobs, less military, and if you look at money raised during this election, I'd say he has won the Presidency without bringing tons of big dollars in to politics (I could be wrong on some of these).

Of course, their methods are completely different and they differ hugely on other issues.

I'm not suggesting that Trump is a good replacement for Bernie, but you can see how Bernie supporters would see him as a better alternative than Clinton.
Except for the weather, of course
Why not a more conventional republican then? I don't think Trump has said he would repeal the ACA. There has been vague talk of changing it, but no evidence that it won't come out more populist than it is now.

Edit: This "Because I like fiscally conservative policies" answer is one I get a lot in these discussions... but it doesn't create a working model, because as far as I can tell, Trump is not a particularly fiscally conservative Republican.
Nah, he had no chance of building a coalition outside of the white urban liberal types.

anyway, he's a socialist.
He flip flopped on his positions whenever it was convenient.

Just a few years ago, he was a Democrat, pro abortion, etc.

Do you really think a man of that age suddenly completely changes his views? And then again about every month (or hour) during the campaign?
This link submitted to HN was flagged by mods but it should not have been. It helps to explain how Trump won:

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-trumps-rise-that-no-on...
Many companies in Europe: http://landing.jobs
Black Americans didn't vote for Hillary Clinton because Bill Clinton lobbied against a minimum wage increase in Haiti? That seems a bit far fetched...
Just wait until the economy actually gets bad. Given how the markets are reacting, that'll be sooner than anyone expected.
Indonesia has an immigrant group of success, Chinese, which resulted in the pogrom of 98'.
Illegal immigrants ballooned under Bush and decreased under Obama... thanks Obama.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/03/5-facts-abou...

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/why-is-t...
you had no argument he didn't win off bigotry. all you said was "USA is a better country than that". Too bad it isn't. Half the country is in fact uneducated racist bigots. they can have the country for 4 years and democrats can try to obstruct it.