skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I was a Bernie supporter who switched to Trump after reading Wikileaks stuff. I can summarize really quickly what the problem was, in all the thousands upon thousands of emails that I personally looked at alongside others in dialog online, while combing through them could I could not not find even a single shred of evidence of any discussion about what is best for America. Every discussion of policy in every email was not picking and choosing which positions were the best positions for the country, but which polled the best and basing their platform sporadically on that.

A campaign should be ran with a candidate sitting down with their advisers and team, stating plainly what their policy positions, overarching themes, and plans are. Then it is the advisers job to market popular positions to the public, and spin unpopular positions or complex policy to make them more sell-able to the public.

That is absolutely not what was going on in these emails, they literally show the campaign making up positions on the fly to fill a near-empty husk containing nothing but globalization. She is the literal definition of everything that is wrong with modern politics. This is not how policy decisions should be created.

I don't even actually like Trump.

-midwestern rustbelt 'non-bachelors-holding' voter in a state that went red for the first time in years.
Yes to basic income--if democratic socialists and Milton Friedman can agree on an idea, it's worth trying out at least.
If you actually did that, you're either making tons of money regardless or doing your taxes wrong.
Some feedback:

It's really strange how new messages appear at the top of the conversation instead of at the bottom. It's kind of unintuitive.

It would also be nice that with the browser at 100%, the chat window was big enough to reach the "new message" box. There's a big empty gap that's kind of awkward.

Edit-- Also, pressing escape twice either doesn't work for me or there's no feedback to confirm that I disconnected successfully.

I like it a lot, though, awesome job!! :)
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The hard part will be "and here's our alternative!"
This is just not true. Both Trump and Clinton had some of the most unfavorable ratings of a presidential candidate for a major party in recent history.
He is not going to follow through on absolutely any of those things. They were just campaign 'promises' that are going to be broken. It seems people forget really fast how politicians always renege on their promises--e.g. how Obama promised revolutionary change and the most transparent administration, yet turned out to be pro-surveillance, etc. It's almost like it was a different person who made the original promises, and the new one is left off the hook.

Trump is very pragmatic and he's also a seasoned reality TV personality who knows what to say in order to appeal to some of his voters' basest instincts and beliefs. As far as actual policies go, I wouldn't really expect anything too radical from him though. I guess many of his blue-collar voters will be disappointed, but then lots of others will be relieved...
So...now we have to start all over?

I know I sound like a complete d--k, but my laptop from 2012 has eight cores that each run over 3 billion cycles a second. How do < 2000 comments make your servers more than blink? I'm guessing you have more than one server?

I get frustrated by sites not accepting HN's "hug of death". An now HN can't even stand its own hug...

Anyway, thanks for getting things running again! You guys are awesome!
Why not make a separate country, secede from the union, and proof by implementation the superiority of everyone s ideology?
Medical Care - Bureau of Labor Statistics Data[0]: default is 10 year view, but changing it to 2000-2016, and adding yearly data, see [1]

[0]http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CUUR0000SAM?output_view=pct_1...

[1]http://imgur.com/a/lUR7o
I hung out at the Board of Elections office. It was printed, and posted, every 15 minutes or so, as polling locations came in.

When I was there, it was me and a college student from the local college who was there working for the AP awaiting the results; everyone else was getting them online.
I actually was having a great reconciling conversation with a guy on here just now. I love the idea. I did get disconnected after a while btw. My messages just didn't post.

I came away feeling more like I understood the other side of the debate so well done!
Yeah, but there are strong statistical correlations between party affiliation and personal/moral views. Example: Trump voters generally support repealing abortion. They also are heavily white, and either old. or young and poorly educated.
Sorry, that's plain false. I grew up in one of these places. Many of my schoolmates are people who supported this man. I've tried for years to be accepting of them and their ideas. They're friends of mine. I've tried hard to understand what they even want. I've joined their facebook groups; I've gone to their shooting ranges. But, literally 80% or more of what they say is hate and rage and paranoia. I would love to see evidence otherwise.

The time for acceptance is over.
The nature of Trump is that he relies almost exclusively on appeal to emotion, rather than the reasonable arguments that you desire.

Tapping into, encouraging and formenting the groundswell of American anger - mostly against demonized minority groups - is, sadly, his modus operandi.

My only hope for America is that his presidency is nothing like his campaign.
When the only tool you have is a hammer
WikiLeaks summed it up pretty well:

> By biasing its internal electoral market the DNC selected the less competitive candidate defeating the purpose of running a primary.

Hillary, the DNC, and all their cronies deserved this. I would've voted for any Democrat who won the primary fair and square, but I couldn't bring myself to vote for someone who stole an election (and from one of the most well-liked candidates of all time, no less). Many of my friends felt the same way -- they either stayed home, voted 3rd party, or voted without selecting a presidential candidate.

The fact that they tried to bully/guilt everyone into voting for her didn't help much either.
Again, in your view. But that doesn't mean that it doesn't have it.
Solar, wind, repairing of roads and bridges and building and tightening of low skill immigration.

There is a load of blue collar work that can (and urgently needs to) be done in USA. Building a single wind turbine are dollars for R&D, truckers, manufacturers, maintainers, people that install and pour concrete, electricians, miners and so on ...

And also maintaining and repairing the old stuff. The North Dakota oil boom showed that if there is work to be done, blue collar's willingness to do it is there.

Is is mostly a matter of will.
it seems to be more accurate clustering division around rural / cities than rich / poor
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As someone finishing grad school here. How does this impact my odds?
@gragas I think to some extent, all of us are racist. Plus, unconscious bias is pretty much ubiquitous. I think you have to be more specific that saying that you are not racist.
Ehh, Trump lost the popular vote by a significant margin.

Trump won due to 64,252 voters in Florida. Alternatively, Hillary lost due to 8,693 voters in Michigan and 34,006 voters in Pennsylvania.

PS: It really was a tight race, but thinking in national terms is completely misleading. And no I did not vote for Hillary or Trump or more importantly live in a state that mattered.
Or Biden / Warren. Would have been a slam dunk. Le sigh.
Live by the sword, die by the sword. Or pen, in this case.

I'm not excited about a Trump presidency. But from 2009-2011 Democrats held majorities in both the House and Senate. Then was the time to get the major work done, legislatively, that could not be undone by another Executive Order.

That's on Obama.
Interesting that right around that number the Obamacare subsidies fade away and are replaced by fines. These are the people getting the short end of the stick in regards to the ACA.
What has helped me in this regard has been actively likeing Trump stuff on facebook. I didn't see much of that world, but enough to get a glimpse into their mindset.

I heaetily suggest actively seeking out opposing views and training your filter bubble to give them to you. It's refreshing and often frustrating and upsetting, bud fundamentally a good thing.
The only factory people who voted for Trump are the ones who code in Matlab.

http://i.imgur.com/RAaGDnW.jpg
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Somehow, I think there's not going to be a lot of trump supporters out there.
How about other topics to debate?
It's Trump's hug of death this time.
> We could start by not calling them privileged, demeaning them in their struggle.

We don't call them privileged. Rather, they hear the insults and put-downs they want to hear by tuning in to customized news and propaganda that confirm their deepest insecurities.

> As cultural changes, one would be to lower the harm from being unemployed. For men, too much of social value and social opportunity is tied to being employed and having a high earning potential.

Re-engineering the social brain so that status doesn't matter? Wow. I doubt you'd have anything like homo sapiens after that.
You think anything can astound the left after last night?
That's not paying attention to the "basket of deplorables," it's dismissing them.

This election has shown me how out of touch most Americans are with each other. The media doesn't care about whole swathes of the country and our political systems write off rural inhabitants all the time.
Peter Thiel: Trump victory means 'all hands on deck'
So Berlin has housing problems, but nice pay/(rent+cost of living)? Sounds like the housing problem isn't that big.

Berlin has a lot of very nice green spaces, and excellent infrastructure.

Oh and also, they just got themselves a left+left+green government.
> who repeatedly got the short end of the stick by the neoliberal policy of both parties.

I agree with this assessment of voter outrage due to economic issues in the rust belt and elsewhere, but now what? Walmart isn't buying smartphones made domestically that cost 8x what the ones in China cost because Walmart can't sell them. I can see the complaint, but its a bit like voting against hurricanes and tornadoes. They're bad and we don't like them, but we can't legislate them away.

I think Trump's playing up global trade as a conspiracy against "good hardworking people" is fairly disingenuous. Instead of accepting a long changed global economy and re-training these people into the service level sector, they seem to think a little protectionism will suddenly bring back the booming factory work of the 1960s and 70s. Trump has badly misled these people for his own gain. Worse, Trump's own companies are managed in a way against the interests of these people (anti-union tactics, buying Chinese steel, lack of investment in poor rural communities, etc). Trump just follows the laws of economics everyone else does. How does he propose something that even he and his companies would never do?

Re-training and investment in the service sector is exactly what Xi Jinping in China is attempting because he knows other Asian nations will continue to successfully poach his manufacturing due to their lowered cost of labor. Meanwhile in the more advanced economy here in the US, we're somehow going to try to compete with factory work in places like Vietnam which has a monthly wage of $145? What did these people vote for other than another empty suit who had made promises he simply cannot deliver?
I'm not so sure. I'm in the Midwest, and housing shortages and gentrification are extremely prevalent problems here too, in almost every city with employers. It's a major problem even for some absolutely tiny towns - http://www.freep.com/story/money/real-estate/2015/12/21/hous...

Sure, the scale is way smaller than coastal cities. But if you adjust the prices to match the incomes, the unaffordability problem is roughly identical in terms of pain. A Michigan $300k urban condo is basically as unaffordable as a Seattle $600k condo, once you notice that Michigan incomes are roughly 50% lower than Seattle, on average.

Sprawl is cheap, that's absolutely true. But it's also sprawl -- with all the problems that entails. The only cities I know of with "huge housing surpluses", are cities that have majorly failed in some way (like Flint).
It's worth bearing in mind that the US is a much more racialized society than the UK. We don't think of 'Mexican' or 'Muslim' as racial categories. But they de facto are racial categories in the US. That may not be very logical, but then neither are most Trump supporters. How many of them do you think are able to carefully parse the distinctions between 'Latino', 'Mexican' and 'illegal brown person'?

And of course, racism very often comes wrapped up in other prejudices which are thought (rightly or wrongly) to be more respectable. All of the groups Trump has targeted are groups that just so happen to consist mostly of people who aren't white. They're the groups that, in the public imagination, are responsible for the loss of an imagined homogenous White America.

Trump can't say "I want a white America". But the people who do want this haven't had any difficulty picking up on his hints.
This is the sort of sharp step down in civility that we need to avoid when replying here. I'm sure you can express your views without doing that, so please don't do that.

We detached this comment from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12911283 and marked it off-topic.
And in increasing national debts.
1 - no way to do this that isn't suicide for foreign relations.

2 - there won't be a deportation "force". undocumented/illegal immigrants aren't going to get auto-citizenship, and there may be additional requirements put on employers to verify citizenship.

3 - possible

4 - I'm not convinced Trump actually knows what countries and regions are affected by NAFTA. unlikely.

5 - sweet jesus I hope not.

6 - likely

7 - not possible. if he tries it's auto impeachment (or a vote for it anyway)

8 - also potential auto-impeachment. abuse of powers.

9 - I would like to see this happen, but the only way it could work is MASSIVE tax breaks to offset more expensive labor. It won't happen in 4 years, but some groundwork might be laid.

10 - "goes on camera and says something horribly offensive and xenophobic to leaders/citizens of a foreign country that seriously damages us": 10/10 will happen.
This will not help. You are supposing that the people who feel disenfranchised in the Rust Belt want to move to NYC where they can get cheap housing and work in the city. They don't want the China model of having a Foxconn that hires rural workers to work in the big city.

What these people want isn't fully rational; it's highly emotional. They want their 1950s-style old way of life back. They want their jobs in their towns that they grew up in, that they have lived in or raised families in, where they have their church and their community. They want to live in their IL farm town and work at the local union plant and make a living to pay for pensions and healthcare. It is not realistic in a globalized economy and will be less so in a fully domesticated one, but the math is not what matters here.

Urban areas in these places already have plenty of housing that nobody is in. See Detroit for example.
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I'm open to understanding the people in the middle ground. Who are they, what do they want, and what do they stand for?
I don't know about this one. I'm able-bodied and have 0 problems with being called privileged for being able bodied. I can hear well, I can see fine, I don't need any machines or devices to help me move around. In this respect I'm very privileged. I don't feel like I'm being demeaned by acknowledging this. It is actually to me acknowledging that other people struggle in ways that I do not.

Similarly, I struggle to see why accusations of white privilege are terrible. I don't believe that because someone is white they can't suffer. I believe the statement is because someone is white they don't have to go through or experience certain things.

Like I don't have to experience the struggle of taking public transport as a person in a wheelchair, because I don't need a wheelchair, does not mean I don't have my own problems. I just don't have the specific problems of someone who has a mobility impairment.

I don't see how acknowledging this is demeaning. It's just looking at reality. White people can struggle, just not with race. Able bodied people can struggle, just not with being disabled. Is that demeaning to white or able bodied people to recognize this? I genuinely don't know.
Reminds me of romneys infomous 47% remark. Seems like there is a geuine disconnect btwn current pollitical class and the "silent majority"
Even the Iowa Electronic Markets [1] got it wrong despite of being so accurate in the past.

[1] http://tippie.biz.uiowa.edu/iem/
Now let's move forward on the direction that's been chosen

I guess one of the bigger problems is that it's utterly unclear what direction has been chosen.

I think it's fair to say—do correct me if you think I'm wrong—that most of the policies that were advocated by Trump prior to the election will not be put into practice. There are a few reasons for that – many of them are practically unworkable, or contradictory, or will be objectively harmful. It seems that the actual policies that will take effect will be markedly different from those of the campaign.

This is similar to Brexit in the UK, which was a campaign fought in a similar way – quite a few half-truths with no clear idea of what policy was being voted for.

To me, this seems like a dangerous situation. Practically speaking, it is unlikely that Trump with 'make America great again' by solving all of the problems that his supporters face – not because he's a liar, but because that's an astonishingly difficult task to achieve. What happens in a couple of years when relatively limited progress has been made? Trump has no political barriers within the US, so who will be blamed for his inability to deliver on his promises? I worry that such a situation is a breeding ground for nationalism of the worst kind.
Dems spent all their political capital during those days on ACA, and even that was a struggle to pass.
I doubt he wrote that speech. Don't believe for a minute that he's had some kind of change of heart.

Just listen to the non-scripted stuff he's been saying at his rallies lately -- that's the guy we're going to get.
Great idea, love it!
Is this a black swan event?
I don't think I'm insulting the project by saying I disagree with their defaults. Certainly no disrespect intended.

> I personally like the default mouse setting, but you're completely free to change it if you don't. People have different preferences, that's why there are configuration settings to change things.

Right, but defaults are important. You have to ask yourself why people are using the project. Are people using tmux for its mouse settings? I think people primarily using it for session management. If that's the case, why does it, by default, override my terminal's settings? That just seems like a violation of "do one thing" to me.
ipv6 has a provision for locally routable addresses, because yes publicly routable addresses should be special. They should just also be free.
How are the immigration processes in various countries ?

US is awful visa-wise, considering that much of the cap is filled up in a day by Indian body shops; ensuring thus that one can at best start in October, and set out on this magical journey 6-12 months ahead.
The cognitive dissonance required to be a trump supporter is quite amazing. For example states that legalized weed but voted for trump.
People always say things like politics doesn't work. It doesn't matter who you vote for, nothing changes. The president has very little actual power. Most politicians agree about 95% of things. I have always thought those people were naive. I wake up this morning hoping that I was the one who was naive and Trump will be unable to do the damage that many of us are worried he will do.
My right nipple is relatively to the left of my right shoulder, but that doesn't make it left.
The election of Trump isn't the real problem here. The real issue is that the Republican party now has control of the government, with only the fact that they don't have a supermajority in the Senate as the only check on their power.

This is an organization that openly admits to voter suppression and harbors some of the most virulent racists, misogynists, and homophobes. An organization that has launched an attack on education and science. An organization that publicly claims to call for smaller government but then enacts some of the most intrusive surveillance we've seen.

It's going to get a lot worse very quickly before it gets better.
When you say asians I think you are forgetting that the 'asian' group is mostly chinese people with really bad life expectancy.
http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/china-life-expectancy
Agree in principle, but one thing that threw me off off the bat- it asked if I was for or against trump. My views are more nuanced than that- to the point I wouldn't feel comfortable selecting either. Not sure how to best express that in the app, but I do think it's one of the things people misunderstand about "the other".
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Rebuilding failing infrastructure seems like an obvious path, but it means people must leave places like WV and MI. That is a tough thing for many.

Even though I lean libertarian, I think we are quickly approaching a time where a basic income will be needed. The pace of technology moves so fast, that jobs literally disappear overnight.
Was this for a job requiring vetting? haven't heard of this out side of SC /DV required jobs before.
I appreciate your passion for decentralization, but these issues go a bit beyond what kinds of software we write. The issues this election raised aren't going to be solved by writing code.
It's like an economic wall that prevents highly skilled people from leaving.
I'm not, although it's sorely tempting. But I don't want to uproot my family. And luckily, we live close enough (20 minutes to the border) that if there was ever an emergency, we should be able to get across quickly.
There is no mandate here, and there will be no coming together; she's going to win the popular vote, dems win more votes in the house yet because of the electoral college and gerrymandering republicans carry the win. Nothing has happened here but a clear signal of how badly the system is broken when the will of the majority loses to a hateful minority due to a fucked up system.
> Make foreign cars expensive and there will be substitution with local cars.

This is quite true, but the problem is those cars will be a lot more expensive. That means a small number of people employed making the cars benefit, while the vastly larger number of people buying them lose out in higher costs. This never works out to the benefit of the country as a whole and low wage earners are the ones that lose out the most. For every car those workers make, they buy dozens of other goods which, if more expensive due to trade barriers, more than soak up any increased wages they might have.

Actually it's worse than that, because often many of those workers could have been gainfully employed is other industries. Only a small minority of our theoretical car workers would actually have been unemployed in a globalized world.

It's the same with Brexit. The vote was driven by working class people on low incomes, but the impact of inflation from the fall of the pound and further economic problems when we do actually leave the EU will predominantly fall on them. Middle class people like me have enough marginal income to absorb the hit. People on low income don't.