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Why?

At least Techcrunch provided some reasoning.

Your prediction is worded in a way that makes it hard to argue with, because "relevant" is so subjective. I know a lot of artists find MySpace VERY relevant.

However, to attempt a rebuttal, taking the Facebook case:

If Facebook is to become less relevant than it is now I would argue it's growth would have to stop, or at least slow down. According to the linked article it is currently accelerating, and usage of Facebook APIs OUTSIDE of Facebook is increasing enormously.

Growth like that doesn't just stop, unless there is some external factor.

So far, Facebook have proven themselves to be reasonable technically skilled, so I'll rule out technical problems.

It's possible some kind of legal issue could slow them (privacy lawsuits or something?). However, lawsuits take such a long time to play out that it would probably be at least 2-3 years before any negative verdict against Facebook would make them change what they are doing, and even then it won't shut down the site. If Facebook have 2-3 years more sustained growth it would be unprecedented for them to shrink from half-a-billion users to something less relevant than MySpace in another 2 years.

Another good counter-argument is the likely-hood of an IPO in the next 5 years. Apparently, Facebook had $700 million in revenue last year, and should do $1.1 billion this year (http://www.insidefacebook.com/2010/03/02/facebook-made-up-to...). If they IPO'ed now, with a P/E ratio of 20 (Google & Apple = ~24, Microsoft = ~ 17), then they'd be a $20 billion company. That buys a lot of relevance.

EDIT: Note that is a revenue figure, not an earning (as pointed out below), so the numbers are wrong. I'll leave it here, though, because the point is more important than the numbers - if (when) Facebook IPO's they will raise a LOT of money.
He said it's easy because he already has it implemented. No work required.
im pretty much a trainwreck of no sleep, comcast outages, host upgrade downtimes, random bits of code being written, and random meet and greets+press events through today. so yeah, the password is demo. username: demo@cloudomatic.com / password: demo. Nothing is deletable from there. Add some cool apps at least :).
If open-sourcing becomes policy, I just hope there's better stuff to show than this (which I'm sure there is). Until then, the effort seems token.
A netbook is its own stand.
He also quotes that there are only 57 websites in the world that have >1bn pageviews/month - anybody has the full list?
I love launch days. What could go wrong, does.
iPhone runs iPhone OS, not FreeBSD. And Android is a Linux-based operating system, not a Java application.
It would be very clever for Apple to support this first party someday. BootCamp for the iPhone. Seems to have worked well on the Mac side. Few people buy MacBooks to run Windows but lots of people like the idea that they could run Windows if they needed to. There's probably far less demand on the SmartPhone side for this type of feature but ultimately if Apple is making all their money off hardware it may serve them well to support side-loading of Android someday.
Except that facebook has a population already greater than "America".
And AOL cost money to use - facebook is free.

It doesn't stop you using other services/sites/etc -- you just don't need or want to.
"My programming environment doesn't have a JSON serializer or deserializer"

I did not realize that in 2010 any mainstream environments did not have a JSON library!
What Id like for the iPad landscape keyboard is if the left and right half were rotated inward a little, for ergonomics.
They'd be better off just making a better phone through HTC.
I'm loving your plugin. I like how I can just use keyboard navigation now!
Oh, sorry about that. I thought HN would've directed me to a duplicate while submitting.
It's not just in Jetpack, but in Firefox overall. I have a Google Reader notifier extension that sends notifications even when I have full screen applications open.
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I don't think anyone will disagree. What they will assert, however, is that shutting down a site with zero notice is a jerky thing to do. As the other commenters have said, the nicer/smarter thing to do would've been to send an e-mail that says "Hey, you're using too much bandwidth/whatever." The smartest thing of all probably would've been, "You're using too much. Want to by more?"
Well I know that the thing that I'm making fun of is 40 years of schoolkids, including myself...IN AUSTRALIA, no less...reminded frequently in school to live in fear from terror falling from the skies of bullshit enemies designed exclusively for their ability to provide 50+ percent of our tax dollars to the military complex.

That's quite a funny joke if you think about it.
This book is filled with expedient nuclear war survival technology and techniques, developed at Oak Ridge and all tested for real (e.g. the instructions for shelters were handed to a semi-random family who'd then try to follow them, with the researchers video taping the whole thing, using this sort of process to iterate the instructions and designs). Some of the stuff has been tested in simulated nuclear blasts, others in suitable radiation fields, and the shelters are simple X feet of dirt provides a Y protection factor.

These are expedient, for people who have ~ 24-48 hours of warning before the heavy fallout hits (although there are also blast shelter designs, but it's best to get far enough away that that's not likely an issue).

There's also a lot of good advice that's useful for other types of emergencies, like where you might have to survive on mostly wheat for some period of time (how to prepare it, how to sprout it to get the vitamins you need, etc.) As Bruce Clayton said in his own survival book (which advised getting this one first), if you're prepared to survive a nuclear war you're pretty much prepared for any lessor threat.

Highly recommended.
For my circle of non-tech friends.. Facebook has replaced email and IM. That's pretty big.
Stock options in ITA would've been handy right now.
Dubious, particularly if they're so hellbent (for better or for worse) on a specific user experience. Plus, all the little things - like, say, not having enough buttons to truly mimic the Android experience (which the video mentions in an offhand way and is probably less an issue for the sort of people who'd dual-boot an iPhone) would suddenly come into play if this were an actual supported mode of operation.
I don't really see why every hosting company employee out there is supposed to know about a certain small american investment firm started in 2005 and its associated news aggregator... we're probably an order of magnitude or so less popular than Reddit, which is itself rather niche. It's a small dot in the web world.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like AOL's strategy was very content-heavy - they tried to provide all the news, movies, etc. their users would need in order to keep to on AOL properties as much as possible. Users are much more tied into Facebook via their friends and private info.
Lisp isn't a purely functional programming language, it can have side effects if you want it to but it isn't required.

The best way to see lisp is as a programming language which allows you to quickly build a context specific language to solve the desired problem. It is great for parsing data, prototyping, doing data driven design (since lisp code is data).

It is also one of the more efficient high level language and so is suitable for almost any task. The only reason not to use it is if you don't like parentheses. I recommend you give it a try, it's a lot of fun. Try reading SICP (the wizard book) and using Dr. Scheme for a nice start.

Cheers
tlb says it was "gradual": http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1283439 .
...unless their computers are down. :)

Seriously though, although there are plenty of algorithms that crawl news all day and trade accordingly, I still think there is money to be made by watching the news with a financial eye. After reading Google's "A New Approach to China" post (which I saw on HN minutes after it was posted), I specifically remember thinking it would be a good time to go long BIDU. And of course, kicked myself after the stock gained ~15% over the next three days. The market responds fast, but consensus is not always reached immediately.

I think the opportunity exists because events like this are like tiny "black swan" events, the lasting effects of which are not immediately perceptible to most people, let alone a computer algorithm. It's easy to write a script to trade on something like "expected earnings were 3c/share, actual earnings 5c/share" but this is complex information. The ability to put the pieces together and realize what a significant outage this is, why it is significant, why there is not an easy fix, and what most companies will do about it (prolly sue 'em or switch to Symantec) is more than a computer can do.

And I'm sure hedge funds are doing the math right now, trying to estimate the possible damages from lawsuits and how it changes the company's value. But remember, you don't have to beat the fastest hedge funds, you just have to beat most of the market, and you'll still make money. Anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens at market open tomorrow :)
The iPhone OS is based on Mac OS X which is (Unix, but also) BSD-like.

The rest of what you say and it's meaning is correct and unchanged though, of course :)
The actual hacker's website is: http://linuxoniphone.blogspot.com/

He mentions at the end of the video he is looking for more contributors and if you want he has a paypal for donations. I don't have an iPhone but I threw a few bucks his way because I'm sure this took more than a bit of effort. Hopefully Google will put some resources behind this because it is really cool
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This is all very neat. But I'm not going to make my site's functionality dependent on Facebook any more than I'll make it dependent on Yahoo, Microsoft, or Google. There needs to be a way to abstract all this stuff so that if Facebook goes belly up tomorrow, I can still have the social features on my site. I'm pretty sure facebook doesn't want developers thinking about that, though.
"but ultimately if Apple is making all their money off hardware"

What on earth makes you think theyre making their money on the hardware?
Personally, I prefer to 'prototype' things in Python. And I'm not alone. E.g. Peter Norvig is one of the top Lisperati and he has defected to Python.

I think one of the design goals for Arc was to make a Lisp that's maximally attractive for prototyping. Of course, whether or not it has succeeded in achieving this goal is controversial.
The other way around would be pretty cool: Run iPhone OS on some clone hardware.
To be fair, before you used Google, you likely thought you could live without totally fine.

Perhaps if all your contacts, relationships, events, etc were already on Facebook, you might think you couldn't live without it.
I think you confused P/E ratio - the E stands for earnings (profit), not revenues.

Facebook's P/E ratio is almost certainly negative at this point, but they are growing so fast that P/E ratio is not a good way to predict their market cap.
I'm sure as long as Steve Jobs runs Apple, that will never happen.
Because they don't make it off the software

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/01/26/app_store/
And photosharing. And gossip magazines.

And sharing location ("I'm having beer at the pub. Come and join me")

Oh, and they use it for little things like product recommendations ("I need a new washing machine. what do people like?")

And then there's the whole "how do I fix my computer/car/whatever". Lots of people don't Google for it - they just ask on Facebook and wait for the original poster to Google it and reply to them

But yeah.. apart from these things it's pretty useless really.
You're absolutely right that many practical applications require side effects. What happens in Lisp is that the programmer tries to write as much purely functional code as possible and only resort to side effects when completely necessary. This approach greatly aids in code debugging and maintenance.
"What on earth makes you think theyre making their money on the hardware?"

Check this graph: http://www.businessinsider.com/chart-of-the-day-in-case-you-...
Facebook goes off of monthly active users. If you had logged in and done and action once this month. Same for monthly active users within games, if the user logs in, accesses the game that counts.

It is pretty clear how deep the social links are that Facebook is truly that big. All your friends from elementary to college, all your relatives, nearly everyone is on there. Your mom is probably on there. That tells that the numbers are real.
It's not just the hardware or the software. Apple is selling a fully integrated experience.
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I thought I was the only one who found facebook totally user-unfriendly.
Being employee number ~1e5 is unlikely to result in "fuck you" money.
This graph isn't necessarily saying that they make all the money on hardware.

Each of the ipod, mac, iphone are a combination of apple hardware AND software. That isn't split out.
Where the graph shows software, they are referring to things like final cut, iwork, etc.
And as pointed out here:

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/04/21...

... the evidence against the newer suspect Bruce Ivins (which actually did result in suicide), is similarly circumstantial but the government is dead set against anyone questioning that suspicion.
I love the irony that you have to log in to read the docs.
Microsoft had a video about this idea a few months ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmIgNfp-MdI
He's filming an iphone with an iphone O_o

Countdown to flash running on the iphone in 3, 2, 1 days...
That's some kind of special awesome.

Really surprised at how fast it seems.

Reminds me efforts to emulate all manner of systems on minimal hardware, or run emulators inside of emulators.
Umm yeah. Fair point.

I agree it's pretty crazy to try & predict this, but still... If they have profit margins similar to Google, then they'd still be a $7 billion company (and I'd argue their P/E will be much higher when they float)
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Have you ever met anyone who bought a dedicated computer just to use Adobe Creative Suite? I surely haven't, and that includes several guys I'm working with fairly frequently who specialise in the kinds of work where Adobe's software is dominant.

I think Adobe's basic problem is corporate arrogance. Because they have -- for now -- the only top-class graphics software in town, they don't really care if people are upset about their DRM and so on. Either they're in denial about lost sales opportunities like me, or we're just not significant enough as a group for them to worry about us because they think (rightly or wrongly) that they get more money out of preventing people ripping their stuff illegally.

One of these days, someone is going to show up with a serious competitor, whether it be a commercial organisation that sees an opportunity in the market or some of the community-driven stuff getting some serious support behind it and stepping up to Creative Suite's level. At that point, Adobe may come to regret alienating so many paying customers (or would-be customers). But unfortunately, until then they have a de facto monopoly, so those of us who don't absolutely have to use their stuff even if it means setting up a separate machine for it will just have to accept their terms or not. I figure if we at least shout about it for a while each new release of CS, maybe someone senior at Adobe will get the point eventually, though.
Do these copiers (multifunction right?) include a function for this? I would hope that these copiers include a wipe drive button.
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Thanks for taking the time to respond. You've managed to come up with suggestions that would result in the first iteration of the software I came up with.

The results of the focus testing we did (mostly with a group of autistic adults) ended up resulting in most of the peculiarities you described.

Incidentally, if anyone has any experience doing design work for disabled individuals, I'd love to hear your design processes. This project had a decidedly "too many cooks in the kitchen" sort of feel to it, and though I think it turned out pretty well I think the process could have gone smoother.
Yes, an example is Vista. It is electronic medical record software for the Veterans Affairs department. See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VistA
You should put that description on there. The copy on the page is not too clear about what the service does -- keeping my webapps in one place? Oh, my webapp LOGINS in one place.
Hahaha.. Adobe should pick this up and run with it as a joke. Flash on the iPhone here we come.
Fair question. I base my opinion (and it's an opinion) on history. I'm a relatively old man. I've been hearing about technologies that are going to take over the world for decades, and none have delivered for more than a few years.

I remember when Altavista was supposed to be the beginning and end of search.

I remember when Palm was the final word in mobile devices.

I remember when Friendster was THE social network to rule all social networks.

I remember when Hotmail was the be-all-end-all email.

I remember when Geocities was going to rule the Earth from horizon to horizon.

I remember when Yahoo! was synonymous with the Internet.

I remember when Kozmo.com was going to replace the governments of all civilized nations.

I remember when Boo.com had a bulletproof business model and first-mover advantage.

I remember when Go.com was going to be the portal to our shiny new future.

You'll have to forgive me for being a little skeptical. Sites like Techcrunch have been serving up this kind of myopic nonsense to the eager echo chamber for as long as I can remember, and they're rarely correct. None of them saw Google coming until it was too late. None of them told me that Apple was going to be the 7th largest company and a dominant player in music and mobile devices until Apple was the 7th largest company and dominant in music and mobile devices. No, it was all about revolutionary "game-changers" like Pointcast or WebTV or RealNetworks or something else that had a legitimate period of success but did not, in fact, have the lasting impact that was promised by sensationalist publications.
<title>Cloudmatic(start)</title> should probably be Cloudomatic(start) right?
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Have was the wrong word, but Dave is unwilling to change so it's the same end result.
Still, it’s the sort of unforseen problem you want to have.
This is incredible. I've been hoping for over a year that this would occur. Why would Google not pick this guy up... clearly he knows his way around Linux and Android.
Oddly enough, all of the things that you mentioned are useless to me.
This is just creepy. Facebook is a profit motivated company and I don't understand why people keep feeding it data and not just any data but relevant, extremely profitable data for free! Google knows a bunch of stuff too but for some reason this seems way more creepy.
One of the reason there are so many iphone apps is that the people developing the apps themselves own iphones. If everyone making iphone apps can port their apps to android and test them on the phone they already have, then there will be more android ports of iphone apps, which means less value in the iphone platform. That's why Apple will not encourage this.
If I'm reading this report right there are several that hit 97% with low false positives. http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/stories/test/ondret/av... The methodology is linked in the document. I mean, it's certainly at least less of a conjecture than your "he doesn't know anything because these things are obviously BS" argument.
"facebook has a population"

Every time I hear this meme repeated, I get the (depressing) image of roughly 400,000,000 stub accounts that were created to check out FB, and promptly abandoned to gather dust.
That was the same comment everyone made before Apple's official announcement of bootcamp and windows on the Mac.

I do agree it is unlikely, but I know that Apple learned that it was the choice and ability that was the big sell and people continue(d) to use Mac OS instead.
IN AUSTRALIA, no less...reminded frequently in school to live in fear from terror falling from the skies

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylab
Bonus points that this is on an iPhone 2G!

Maybe my iPhone 2G is still relevant...
Holy shit, Dave Winer still exists!
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At first I read this post and thought it was a pretty good idea. Upon further consideration, I reconsidered this comment:

It was a surprisingly hard thing to do, but now I’m left with 35 people that I actually know: people I’d actually talk to in the real world.

Personally, if my Facebook was:

Family: over 35 - my mom, stepdad, stepmom, 3 siblings, about 10 aunts and uncles, 3 grandparents, about 15 cousins, and 2 in-laws

Might-as-well-be-family[1]: about 15 more

Friends I enjoy hanging out with... weekly: probably 10 more, monthly: maybe 20 more, a few times a year: at least 40 more

People I rarely see but chat with occasionally when I see them on Facebook: another 30?

That means that my culled Facebook list would still have at least 150 people. Once you have that many friends, what's a few more even if you don't know them that well?

I'm not in any way trying to brag about how many friends I have. In my experience this is pretty much standard for people in the 18-28 age range (I'm 26). It seems to me that the author's "lucky 35" being that small is the exception, and for most people such an exercise would be mostly pointless.

For me, Facebook isn't only for "people I'd actually talk to in the real world," anyways. It's also interesting to check out the profiles of people you knew several years ago but never talk to anymore, just to see what they're up to these days and maybe post "Hey, longtime no see! Glad to see you're doing well :)" messages on their walls.

And when it comes down to it Facebook is all about being social. Part of that is photo-sharing: if you want to tag -- or be tagged by -- someone you see occasionally (we all party sometimes, right?), you have to be friends with them. Ditto if you want to invite them to your next big party, or suggest they check out a small band that you enjoy. And it's pretty awesome when you can make your status "driving out to <interesting place 6 hours away> this weekend, who's with me?" or "looking for a ride to <hometown 2+ hours from my college town> Friday" and be reasonably likely to get a reply.

I agree with the idea of having a special network for your closest friends and family. I just think that if you're using Facebook for that, you're vastly under-utilizing its potential.

[1] My closest friends, past roommates that I still care a lot about, my ex-but-longtime-girlfriend's family, extended-extended family, etc.
The main point goes like this: I can't be friends with all smart people. Thus, HN and other 'neutral' sites gonna stay.
Ask HN: What are your thoughts on Facebook's Open Graph concept?
Did anyone watch the F8 keynote today? I think the "Like" buttons are alright and the social bar will be annoying, but Open Graph has a lot of potential to do some amazing things. I'm not sure how I feel about Facebook being the hub of all this information, but I guess if they weren't then Google or somebody else would, which isn't to say that this won't eventually happen.

Are you planning on integrating Facebook's new offerings in the immediate future in your product? What are your thoughts?