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California Penal Code 1533

In the absence of such a direction, the warrant shall be served only between the hours of 7 a.m. and 10 p.m.

Since Jason didn't get home until 9:45 and the police had been there for 'a few hours already' it did not start as a night search. IANAL but it is up to someone else to say if that means that the police needed to stop at 10pm or not.
You're still thinking in terms of home PCs, but the law has to handle every case in the most secure manner. There are many solid state storage cards, which may not be easy to recognise by people executing the search. In case of organised crime, it's also easy to hide additional storage in electronic devices in ways that isn't obvious to a normal user -- for example to pass information between members, you could modify the camera to extend the internal memory and hide a separate partition there. It's not likely that any mobile team will have enough tools to check all cases like this and tell that some device is "clean" and can be easily mirrored by classic tools. And I didn't even get to custom-made hardware of unknown capabilities.

(playing devil's advocate)
Develop your own website which will be your portfolio to show everyone.
Generally not having a degree will hurt you a lot and will generally lower the amount you can require for developing a website. There are websites such as 99designs.com which you can offer your designs to people that post how much money they are offering. This can help get your designs and name out there.
The best bet IMO is to go to Uni next year and during your first few years build that portfolio, if you are going to a mid to large school you can sometimes get grants from certain schools if you offer to develop a website for them (I know someone who got half of his masters degree paid doing this).
However in todays world the degree really does help.
Depends on the state. Some have stricter laws, but I have seen enough cases of repeats and lax state laws.
Let's all be honest. If this was anyone other than Apple you would all be up in arms about this.
Holy shit, 2007 was 3 years ago
The police should now post the contents of Chen's hard drive online. After all, they did find it.
I wouldn't put it past Steve Jobs' Apple.
You know that blame means punishment right? I just drew Mohammed on a napkin. Do you think I should pay a fine, go to jail, something?...

If you think "of course not, don't be silly", then tell me how can I know, prior to expressing my thoughts, if my work will result in a murder. What's a substantial amount of people, how much time is a long history? You're saying there's a line that speech should not cross, because after a certain point bad things will happen.

Where is that line? You're being vague if you say "some people, long history, napkim is okay, cartoon in national newspaper is not". I want to be a law abiding citizen. Should the government publish a list of prohibited things to say? A civilian committee? Should I use "common sense" (as if there's anything common in 2 billion people and 2 major religions spanning 2 thousand years). Or will I only know if what I said was okay after someone killed?

There are serious implications on who you choose to blame, I don't think you've thought this one through.
I never got the information on the guy. The store owner refused to give it to me. Basically once I and the store owner realized what happened, the owner called the cops and worked with them directly. They took the DVDs (and presumably a copy of the driver's license). I asked the store owner several times if I could get the driver's license as well, and he refused. And I can't blame him. Given the situation, I'd have done the same thing.

It does feel like in cases like this the cops rely on people having insurance and thus generally don't bother unless the break ins become an epidemic.

It's possible I could have approached the cops differently and received better success. Be more persistent? Be less persistent? Have a lawyer speak with them? I have no idea. When the cops refuse to do their job for whatever reason, there's no fool proof way of reversing that.

EDIT: And also, I probably should have been there when the cops came to the store. That might have also helped. Live and learn. At the time I thought "photocopy of the driver's license! score! I'm saved!" and was pretty naive about the whole thing.
I still stand by my statement, or at least the intent of my statement.

To say that someone who chooses not to exercise a right, for any reason, doesn't deserve liberty is wrong. They are not giving up the ability to exercise that right for safety, they are choosing not to exercise it for safety. This is the distinction I wanted to make.

Whether personal safety is involved is irrelevant to whether they deserve liberty for choosing not to exercise a right.

Is this more clear?
"You're absolutely right, the 97% needs to stand the hell up and drown out this nonsense."

Plenty of people have been trying to drown out the nonsense, but it is not newsworthy (fairly recently a very influential religious figure in Pakistan made very strong statements and fatwa against the 'nonsense'). If it bleeds, it leads. Good works rarely make the news, but jackasses easily do so.

As a Muslim myself, having to 'stand the hell up and drown out this nonsense' makes little sense to me. It implies that I/we are somehow complicit in what the jackasses do. No thanks. I have a family to take care of, a job, etc. and do my personal best to be an example of a good human being, just like the majority of Muslims.
There's a subtle distinction to be made here between providing the key and providing access. Courts have ruled that the Constitution permits the government to compel you to provide access to the relevant information (e.g. to open the safe). But you don't have to give the government the combination. Just open the safe for them, and you can keep the combination to yourself.

Anyway, that doesn't really change the basic fact — if law enforcement has a warrant for information that's locked away, a defendant can be compelled to provide the information.
Where's your citation for this? As far as I know, no clear-cut case has been tested yet.

Either way, if you are paranoid, the solution is hidden volumes. If the government can't prove you have an encrypted disk, they can't compel you to reveal its contents.
Pick up phone. Wave to bartender. Done. Or pick up phone, drop at police station, done. Or pick up phone, use Safari to place notice on craigslist, done.

Once I exit the property with the phone, I've done wrong. The onus is now on me to follow through and get it back to the owner, not take a half-hearted effort to get through to Apple on the phone before selling it to someone else who is also not the owner.

p.s. I see you've replied to my points in your message. This makes the thread of conversation hard to follow. Yes, give it to bar staff you don't know. It's not your phone, it's not your bar. It's not up to you to sit in judgment over them and find them wanting, especially when you end up selling the phone for your own gain. Likewise, try giving it to the police and see what they say. That would be a lot more convincing than not doing so and selling the phone later.
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I see your perspective, but the guy is an iPhone engineer, I don't think having lost a prototype at a bar in a very public way can possibly add anything to his resume or make him stand out more in a positive way. I could see someone maybe specifically contacting him and offering him a job after this event, though I don't really see why they'd single him out unless they were looking for an iPhone engineer specifically.

In other words it may have some net positive effect on his career, but it seems like he was probably doing okay anyway and it's at least equally as likely to lose him a job than to gain him one.
I probably would have spoken to a lawyer about this. If it was going to cost me thousands of dollars, then I would have forgotten about it. If it was a couple hundred bucks, I would pursue the issue out of principle, even if the DVDs were not worth that much.
Probably requires quite a bit more financial/legal hacking than technical. That said - I agree that it seems like a real opportunity.

The entire "payments industry" boggles the techie mind - Visa, MasterCard, and Western Union (to name a publicly-recognizable few) enjoy very high ROI having a nearly trivial (for a serious organization) technical problem to solve.
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The cost of your data is actually irrelevant - SMSs are sent as part of the usual phone-tower communication system, they fill up empty space in a packet that is sent regardless of whether or not there's an SMS in it. If you're not counting overhead, they cost literally nothing. If you do count overhead, then they still only cost a fraction of a penny.
>I don't understand the stances these fringe groups take

Suppose for a minute the leaders of these groups are motivated by personal power/glory rather than religious purity.

By stirring up this sort of trouble you get exposure, name on TV - fame and glory.

Then if you stir up enough trouble there starts to be a backlash. People start to associate your ethnic group with trouble and react to that.
So you can start saying to impressionable young idiots - see you can never integrate into the society of 'wherever', they hate you. We must fight them, come and join my group.
The bigger your group the more trouble you can cause, the more backlash, the more downtrodden followers.

Works for gangs in LA and kids in Northern Ireland today, worked for a certain mustachioed politician in Europe 80years ago. And was probably working for a bunch of idol worshipers in Ur 6000years ago.
I believe the play being referred to here was called "Behzti - Dishonour" and was due to play in Birmingham (UK) in 2004 before protesters stoped it:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/dec/21/religion.arts

Birmingham is home to a very large Sikh community, and as a religious group in the UK they tend to have integrated and adapted to British life pretty well. The events surrounding this play was seen as being very unusual (at least from the perspective of the middle class English)

Interestingly the writer herself is a Sikh, and is currently touring with a play based around the incident. http://www.guardian.co.uk/stage/2010/mar/15/gurpreet-kaur-bh...
> trigger any thoughts about trade secrets

What? I don't think not returning the device immediately when Apple asked for it was right, but Gizmodo aren't obligated to protect Apple's trade secrets. Nobody is but Apple. Do you want every rumor site to be shut down?
Huh, weird. This seems to crib very heavily from my original Simple JavaScript Inheritance implementation:
http://ejohn.org/blog/simple-javascript-inheritance/

It even uses the 'classy' name and logo (stemming from an April Fools joke that I ran that used the aforementioned inheritance implementation):
http://ejohn.org/blog/classy-query/

Seems like he may have made some improvements to the code (using hasOwnProperty and putting a try/finally around the code block are two changes that I see) but on the whole it looks very very similar to the original implementation that I wrote. Odd.

Update: It seems as if the author credits the original code in a tweet that he made:
http://twitter.com/mitsuhiko/status/12902227050
This is an awesome story! Congrats!
What if he'd dropped it on the street instead? Should you leave it on the street, to get rained on, run over, stolen, etc., or take the phone and attempt to return it to the original owner? Finding the phone disabled, what do you do next? Throw it out? Return it to the street? Turn it in to the police? Presumably you've figured out it's some sort of prototype that is property of a corporation, so you contact them about it. No reply? I could see myself doing the same thing as the original finder, if all pieces of his story are to be believed.
I too think there's a problem with higher education but I am doing something about. More details here on HN when ready.
Since 37prime doesn't have any evidence to prove the finder was lying about repeatedly attempting to return the phone to Apple, I'd like to assume he's not.

Lest, you know, someone make a similar accusation about either:

- me

- you

- 37prime

sometime in the future. This is one of the basis' upon which society works.
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What would have happend if he did all his work in an install of etherpad hosted on a european EC2 instance?
Yes and no. Price is relative to demand. If the plane fills up ahead of expected, demand is assumed to be higher and prices will go up. If the plane is more empty than predicted, fares will fall. Competitor moves can also impact this.

But even aside from that, prices go up as the cheaper fare classes get sold out. This isn't the airline raising fares, it is simply the cheap seats get sold out.

Finally, there are fare rules. The cheapest fares generally have 14 or 7 day advanced purchase requirements. So without touching anything, fares will go up at those time increments as the cheapest fares are no longer available, even if seats are still available. This is to protect the airline from selling cheap seats to last-minute business travelers with a high willingness to pay.
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We agree that the street is a very different situation than a bar. I agree that if you find it in a public place you should pick it up and try to return it. That's why I specifically said this isn't your home, your place of business, or a public place.

But if you find something on somebody else's property, you can find the owner while still on the property or give it to the person in charge of the property. Taking it off the property puts a very big responsibility on your shoulders to do the right thing in a tearing hurry or be judged a thief.

To me it is very simple. You can find lost property in a public place. You cannot find lost property on somebody else's property. The owner may have lost it, but you can't take it away. Going onto somebody else's property and taking something home that doesn't belong to you is pretty clear-cut.
You're right, sjobs@ would have been better, but whoever received the call at Apple and didn't route it to the right people (or whoever ignored it for a week) seriously let the company down.
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Thanks. I'll have to check them out. Verizon did wait like 3 months to tell me no, can't say I was very impressed even ignoring the fact that they refused to give me service.
I agree, that Gizmodo acted wrong and should be punished. They bought stolen goods, period.

The problem is that them hiding behind a shield law isn't totally nuts. What if someone leaked them something that was actually in the public interest--something important for people to know, but that could still be considered a trade secret. We certainly don't want the courts deciding what's "important" news and what isn't, do we? If not then how do we protect one without the other?
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crackers?

Maybe i misunderstood this site's title.
Citation on marijuana's toxicity?

I guess everything is toxic to a certain degree, even water is toxic if you swallow enough of it.
You misread my post. I have edited it for clarity.
A possible plausible explanation for the existence of a partition/device containing solely random data is that you have wiped (securely erased) the content of the partition/device using one of the tools that erase data by overwriting it with random data (...)

Um...that kid in Tennessee that accessed Sarah Palin's email did a secure erase, but enough of his activity was revealed by some malware on his machine, as well as ISP records etc., that he also got charged with obstruction of justice for having deleted stuff germane to the crime of unauthorized access. Just sayin'.
For some kinds of content, you want that skim-and-skip effect, for example the display of reviews on RottenTomatoes (which is in two columns nowadays, but used to be either three or four, I forget).

I think it's really the execution here that's problematic. Compare those examples, with say, http://37signals.com/, which has a similar look, but where each piece has been fit together by hand, rather than by an algorithm just stuffing everything where it seems to fit best.

I know that hand-arranging is often not possible, especially with dynamic content, but that's my take on it.
Citation?

(And I'm not asking to be snarky. I need more information before I decide to run for public office and change the law :)
But the ad views are due to being served with a search warrant, which is public information (or at least something they are allowed to disclose).
I dunno, back when the Klan was in force, people were pretty scared of it.

McVeigh and Kaczynski were one-off wackos, neither of whom managed to make any demands before being caught.
Indeed. I am pretty sure "night search" means something like "4am". Before 10pm, it's "evening".
> I just drew Mohammed on a napkin. Do you think I should pay a fine, go to jail, something?...

You know that's not what I mean :) and it's unrelated. Also your definition of blame is fallacious because punishment does not always take the form of jail/fine (i.e. social blame, personal blame).

Besides your action is not inciting; who will see it? If you now go into the town centre and happen to post it near a mosque athat has potential to be inciting. And you need to consider whether that is the sensible thing to do.

(the answer is; it's probably fine because no one is likely to get killed)

> then tell me how can I know, prior to expressing my thoughts, if my work will result in a murder.

Strawman; there is ample precedent for media, particularly cartoons, to cause offence and elicit extremist response.

> You're being vague if you say "some people, long history, napkim is okay, cartoon in national newspaper is not". I want to be a law abiding citizen. Should the government publish a list of prohibited things to say?

Deliberately so; it's a personal choice, not something anyone else should decide!

> I don't think you've thought this one through.

You skirt around some good points - particularly with regards to "social interference" (i.e. a moral brigade deciding what is right/wrong to publish based on their feeling on what will cause extremist response). However I think you make a few fatal mistakes in rhetoric (mostly by building on increasingly shaking links); ultimately I'm not sure you've thought the counter argument through clearly.
What on earth does this have to do with hacker news?

EDIT: what I meant is: The title says hacker news on the economist, yet the page has no mention of hacker news anywhere. A better title might be: it is smart to invest in good stock.
Does anyone know to which email he is referring in his account? Is it perhaps an email about the section in the penal code?
Yeah, that hypothesis seems a little fishy to me. 4 reasons:

1. He took money for the phone. You gotta know this is wrong.

2. He shopped around trying to dump the phone.

3. Unless the bar is keeping quiet, he didn't try to return it.

4. Apple seemed to reclaim it in a huge hurry once it got public on Gizmodo. That suggests they were taking its disclosure seriously. Did they think it WOULDN'T cause a huge uproar before it showed up on Gizmodo and then say, "Oh wait, the press _tells people about things!_ Duh, we should have seen this coming."

The story we've got so far has some pretty bizarre turns, and they really don't seem consistent with a bunch of unfortunate coincidences besetting good samaritans.

Fortunately, our opinion is meaningless. The whole point of these investigations is to determine wrongdoing.
Yeah I have to agree with spanktheuser, unless their is some transparency on how they are coming to these conclusions, it's hard to take these numbers seriously.
So the police are working for Apple now?

Clear evidence that their quest for world domination has gone too far.
This is my take on it - few less dollars and underscores:
http://github.com/maccman/supermodel-js/blob/master/supercla...
You're the one getting defensive. I am merely amused that vim added the Emacs-style keybindings to insert mode.
Not from a legal perspective.
I found a wallet, and gave it back to the owner.
vs.
I found bobs wallet, he was embarrassed about the condom that expired last year.

Making money on the story about the expired condom is tacky, but i don't think it's in bad faith. bob got his wallet back, not a dollar missing.

Buying the wallet from a junkie who's more that capable of giving bob his wallet back, that's not right.
> It's not up to you to sit in judgment over them and find them wanting

Actually, I'm allowed to judge anyone, even if I don't employ them. So are you. We make judgements about others all the time.

I trust I will do what I judge to be the right thing 100% of the time. I trust a stranger less so. This is logical.

Suggesting otherwise reminds me of one of those 'don't judge my OSS app unless you wrote it' arguments.

Human beings don't need permission to make decisions.
He said he tried to call Apple's main line, which kind of sounds like the worst possible way to go about it, in fact it sounds like an intentionally ineffective way to do something so you can say you tried to do it. It sounds like a lame excuse, in other words. There are a lot of ways it could have easily been returned with some level of assurance that it would find it's owner.

Besides, the guy sold the thing for $5k and apparently reached out to Gizmodo and Engadget, I find it hard to believe he ever actually tried to return it.
Haha, great! I just notice that you've been posting less.

And where the heck is nickb? He also disappeared off the leader board, so I have my suspicions. :) hrm.
Maybe the examples aren't great, but it's a very nice tool, and certainly useful if used wisely.

Reminds me of The New York Times app on the iPad. When you changing the orientation, the content is reorganized to fit the available space.

Great work.
> crackers?

If you're going to be pedantic about it, sure.
Arguably they are, under the Uniform trade Secrets Act (which is CA law):

"... (b) Misappropriation" means: ... (2) Disclosure or use of a trade secret of another without express or implied consent by a person who: ... (C) Before a material change of his or her position, knew or had reason to know that it was a trade secret and that knowledge of it had been acquired by accident or mistake.

In detail - http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1286907
> I was actually talking about the chemical mixes that are actually toxic / poison that are being brewed in trailers in the rural areas or kitchens in apartment complexes. I wasn't writing about addictiveness.

Right. Well, legalization will help that as it is, in fact, illegal for a legitimate company to sell some unknown poison when it is claiming to sell drugs of a given composition and purity. Also, meth labs as we now know them will become economically impossible if it's possible to get meth legally: They are the perfect, absolutely perfect example of the kind of high-risk/high-reward behavior that is only worthwhile if you have gigantic margins subsidized by the DEA and local police.