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They don't have to 'force' it, they just have to make it very expensive.

ARM has a three-tier licensing model (http://www.arm.com/products/buying-guide/licensing/index.php...)

If you believe the wikipedia entry on ARM licensing costs, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture#ARM_licensees), then the average cost (in 2006) was $0.11 per core, averaged across all cores.

At at 50M iPhones, thats $5.5M (USD). Even if Apple is paying $2/core in licensing costs (effective, the A4 is the first non-Samsung part used by iPhone OS), thats still $100M, so $8B doesn't pencil out.

I do find it incredibly likely though that Apple would 'buy out' their license(s), and negotiate to have a minimal (maybe even zero) cost license to all future ARM IP.

Or they could just buy a controlling interest (probably wouldn't take 51%) and frighten off everyone who competes with Apple.

Just the slow-down for the rest of the market alone (Atom isn't anywhere close to ARM in terms of functionality/watt), it might be worth it.
I'm afraid I have 'negative' respect for any culture (actually, we're talking about some bigoted crazies on a website) that threatens death to those who claim that a historical figure is inside a cartoon representation of a bear suit.
I'd imagine what happened was one of their other customers finally decided to call support to see why their site was so slow.
True, it could lose the 'breaking news', if it wasn't news it shouldn't be here in the first place, the title has clearly been modified, the original is "Is apple targeting ARM for takeover bid?"

There's something to it judging by the stock market though, 5 million shares do not change hands just like that, so I would consider it 'news' and worth reading.
I came to similar conclusions myself:

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What parts of your own culture do you have 'negative' respect for?
a.) The article is ridiculously misleading.

It's not really a programming "test", it's a special code review where you submit a block of code you've written that's already part of a production system, and then a reviewer goes over it with a fine-toothed comb for style violations, knowledge of the language fundamentals, proper usage of typical library functions, and good testing practice. While it is possible to "fail" a readability review, that usually only happens if you completely do not understand the basics of the language. Usually the reviewer will work with you to improve the code until it's suitable.

It's also not unheard of for code written during these readability reviews to become useful production code. For example, my JS readability reviewer asked me to write a quick mock-object framework, to prove that I understood how classes, objects, and prototypes worked since the code I had submitted used none of these. This was later pulled out into its own library, at the request of some coworkers, and now is used for testing a bunch of websearch JavaScript.

You've guessed b.) correctly.

As for c.), you can still check in code without having readability, you just need to find someone with readability to review and approve it. I think it's a fairly good bet that Ken Thompson works with someone with C++ readability, and since all code needs to be reviewed anyway, it basically doesn't matter.

It actually fairly common for engineers to not bother getting readability, both because they can count on others to review their code and because the readability process requires that you submit a large chunk of code that was "primarily authored" by yourself. That latter bit disqualifies most code, because most Googlers work on teams and we end up rewriting our code several times before it's stable. I submit C++ all the time, but I still don't have C++ readability, because most of my changes have been edits (sometimes fairly extensive) to a class that somebody else wrote.
False dichotomy. The correct way to handle this would have been to temporarily move the shared server to hardware where it won't impact other customers and notify YC that they need to move their server to a bigger server or the site will have to be shut down. Presumably with an ultimatum of a week or whatever.
You may think that cultural impact has no borders but certainly one thing has borders: the countries and laws respected inside them.

Your country respects one's life no matter whether he hurt somebody's feelings or not. It is a sane system of values, right? We're so used to these ideas that we assume all people in the world, except of some insane margin, are using the same ideas. But the problem is: they're not. Now those folks are saying publicly that they will take an criminal act by killing somebody who offended them and that act will be ok from the pov of some barbaric ideology. Does it comply with your country's general ideas?

Do you want to life in a country with American-like law or rather Shariat law, which legalizes and encourages killing a woman by her family because they didn't accept her partner?

C'mon people, read some stuff about who you're talking about. Look at what's happening in Europe for instance.
Glib answer: an honest desire to respect other cultures that can unfortunately degenerate into cultural relativism and soft racism.

Actually I hate lots of things in my culture. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at with the question to be honest.

(btw I came back to delete my original comment, because I thought it didn't contribute that much to the discussion and was verging on a flame. From my experience HN commenters seem more able than others to keep it civilised. But I was too late :))
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> "But not showing a religous figure on television has no effect apart from a negative one among the group. I see no harm in respecting this."

I see great actual and potential harm, not to mention you don't know the effect before expressing/airing this to know it can be nothing but negative, such knowledge is impossible for any man to have, thats the point of the first amendment to the US constitution, and last I checked southpark was made there.

You could have made the same argument about "Life of Brian", whats the point of ridiculing jesus after all?
The result of that movie has been harmful?
Thats not the case at all for me, "Life of Brian" is a very important movie for me, and so is southpark.

What about all the muslims who could enjoy poking fun at Mohammed? How is it that their view is any less valid? Arguing for self-censorship legitimizes and treats muslims as a unified group, identified by voices of extremism.
You delegate to them the task of identifying what is harmful and offensive, and once you've done that, it can be anything.
A cartoon in an obscure danish newspaper.
A 15 minute movie made in the netherlands.
What children call a teddy bear in a classroom in Uganda.
What southpark decides to do.

This is a capitulation that erodes freedom of speech.
Those are not 'laws'. The people who kill anyone else for whatever reason will face the laws of the land and have to deal with whatever punishment that entails.

Nobody is under an obligation to pay attention to another countries culture. If I am living in the Vatican, I can make a TV show showing 12 year old girls having sex with 40 year old men - it would not be against the law of the land, but it would against American culture and would not be accepted on TV. And the people who watch this would likely be enraged enough that someone may kill one of the producers.

Different cultures should be respected in their differences, particularly where it causes nobody any harm to do so.
Yes, you definitely missed the point.
Very true. I have a Linux phone (Android) and I must concur that it sucks. I really regret buying it. Particularly since HTC has done an Apple on me and made it extremely difficult to install a new ROM.
I'd suggest one of the main reasons that Gizmodo published the guys name is that Gruber implied immediately that they stole the prototype

How is that a valid response? Leaving aside your mischaracterization of what Gruber actually wrote, what does publishing the guys name, not to speak of his picture and other information, get them that couldn't have been accomplished without the personal details, aside from a bunch of page views?
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Is abstaining from calling a person a "nigger" eroding freedom of speech? No, it's simply a sign that you recognize that it will cause another person distress.

Not showing the prophet on a screen is not eroding freedom of speech, because this rule has been in place longer than America has existed. And abstaining from showing it is just a sign of respect for a culture of a billion people.
So you assume comparable P/E to other much larger and more established companies, in order to arrive at a fanciful market cap number, in order to prove...something. No wonder these bubbles keep bursting.
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What I'm trying to show is this: It's easy to see the flaws in another person or another culture, but it's much more difficult to see it in your own.

Everybody has their own weird things that are annoying to other people. But when you're going to criticize others, first look at yourself, and see your own flaws. If you cannot see your own flaws, then do you really think it is because you do not have any?
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I would back the accountancy stuff, Goodman Jones have been great (I've got Cetin Suleyman as my accountant there) and Xero is also fantastic. Additionally I bank with HSBC as they do an auto-sync to Xero and reconciliation of accounts can be made an incremental task that can be done in a few minutes.
Here's for why.

http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/api/videos/cK3N2DC3Fds

Look at that data and tell me it's beautiful and efficient. It's a crapfest of mammoth proportions.

Unfortunately in the case of youtube, you can ask for it in JSON, but it'll just take the crapfest of XML and convert it to an even bigger pile of rubbish:

http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/api/videos/cK3N2DC3Fds?alt=js...
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> "Not showing the prophet on a screen is not eroding freedom of speech"

Actually it absolutely is, specially when these depictions have been accompanied by campaigns of intimidation, violence
and even murder.

> "because this rule has been in place longer than America has existed."

Freedom of speech has existed long before Islam, but precedence has absolutely no currency here.

> "And abstaining from showing it is just a sign of respect for a culture of a billion people."

Actually thats not the case at all, as I pointed on another post in this thread this is a tenet of Sunni, but not Shi'a muslims, several million of that billion don't see it as sin.

And if they are offended so be it - there are no guarantees you won't be offended in this world, whats unacceptable is bullying and coercion aimed at chilling and eroding freedom of speech.
I'm so glad that SOMEONE is standing up for our rights - threats of violence be damned!
It's most probably not HTCs fault/decision, seeing that the Nexus One is from HTC and has no such restrictions.
I think the mobile operators demand this.
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@maxklein Well, thanks for making a snap judgement that I'm being a hypocrite, without having the information to suggest that's the case! No doubt I'm a hypocrite in some way or other, but nonetheless I do believe in freedom of speech. And I don't think certain beliefs should be protected from ridicule because they're religious.
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I don't disagree with your point, except this:

Just the slow-down for the rest of the market alone (Atom isn't anywhere close to ARM in terms of functionality/watt), it might be worth it.

ARM licencees already have next-gen (Cortex-A9; ie: Tegra-2 etc) chips coming this year. Any slow down in new designs from ARM won't effect the market for a couple of years as these chips are much faster than the current designs (Cortex-A8; ie: Snapdragon, TI OMAP 3000, Apple A4)
No, they were taken down. Them and some like-minded sites. Now guess...
That's a ridiculous and dangerous argument. We're talking about a group of people threatening violence. Implicit in your concern for said group's feelings is the assumption that religious motives are sufficient grounds for retaliation. I think that notion is to be resisted.

Let's take the context of Islam away and follow the analogy. Suppose me and a bunch of friends of mine were deeply offended by UML diagrams. I think it's obvious you would not grant me the right to physically retaliate against anyone who drew them. Why is it that you would in this case?

No, violence is justified only in extreme circumstances. There are no victims here and freedom of expression should be upheld. It is almost embarrassing to debate it.
But surely you understand that making fun of somebody else god is not eroding freedom of speech. Rather, you're just provoking someone else for no reason.

There is a lot of censorship going on in the world, and a lot of real things that you cannot say without being harshly criticized and thrown out of your job or something. That's what you should be concerned about.

This particular example, is just an attack on an alternative religion, and what really hides behind this "freedom of speech" diversion is cultural intolerance and anti-muslim sentiment. The people who will argue that it should be allowed to mock another persons God will say nothing when Australia censors.

If you want to fight for freedom of speech, then fight for real freedom of speech, not for this type of cultural attacks that try to use freedom of speech as their reason.
I love it when the shady and duplicitous finally realize they can no longer hide the facts and then apologize as a last resort.
He said he was about to demonstrate making a call just before I stopped watching.
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> "But not showing a religous figure on television has no effect apart from a negative one among the group. I see no harm in respecting this."

You are making the "Peyote-Popping Native" argument: http://lesswrong.com/lw/24o/eight_short_studies_on_excuses/

If you respect this, it will be an example for more to come. How about prohibiting alcohol production? Since it is forbidden by Islam and its consumption does not have much positive effect on the society.
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I'm not concerned about the group that threatens violence. Obviously they should not do this, and the country that they are in makes this against the law.

I am saying that South Park should have respected the culture initially enough to not show this.

Imagine that you were deeply offended by UML diagrams. If I come into a company you are working at, and then draw a cartoon showing you hand in hand with UML diagrams, then all I am doing is offending you to no gain to myself.

Obviously, I do not advocate you should retaliate. But I should never have done this in the first place - out of respect for you.
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That argument does not work. What this is equivalent to is the U.S passing a law in the U.S saying that Saudi Arabia should start serving Alcohol.

The prophet comes from Islam. Without Islam, there would be no prophet. If you are going to use this figure, then I believe you should abide by the rules of the movement that created it, otherwise don't use it.

This is an old law that harms nobody. There is no slippery slope here.
> Apple have never complained about people installing Linux on MacBooks

That's because running Linux is far more common than changing smartphone firmware, and Apple does not make money from Mac OS X AppStore (yet?)
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Your internet identity in owned by Facebook, I don't like that, what if I wanted to delete my account, I'd lose my identity, my friend connections and all the stuff gathers on my FB profile, I don't think this should be the case and I don't think it's sustainable.
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I don't give Gizmodo pageviews because of this incident.

I don't give Engadget pageviews because it feeds Calacanis' troll ego.
This is absolutely spot-on.

I have seen debates on T.V where respected Muslim scholars agree on and defend this interpretation - its the duty of a Muslim (Mu'min) to kill or convert an unbeliever (Kaafir).

I don't understand why this argument(of banning the Qu'ran) is not made whenever this topic comes up.
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For the same reason he didn't suicide: he knew he hadn't done it, and he wasn't going to give those lazy, dumb sons of bitches the satisfaction.
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I don't think proceeding without "money in the bank" is THAT unusual for startups. There is a certain minimum buffer, but once an investor signs up, and paperwork/etc. is executed, most people would go ahead with signing leases for buildings, hiring, etc. with even only a few months more of cash on hand.

Maybe you don't want your incubator/investor to behave like a startup, though.
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> "Rather, you're just provoking someone else for no reason."

Actually it doesn't have anything to do with them, if they are offended its because they chose to watch, I did not force them to.

And what are these people you want to protect that they can't take an offensive world. I can, if they can't thats their problem, I won't limit what I say - these campaigns of intimidation also involve mere criticism of people that bare some similarities to Mohammed (see Salman Rushdie's Satanic Verses, which is actually not about Mohammed).

> "There is a lot of censorship going on in the world, and a lot of real things that you cannot say without being harshly criticized and thrown out of your job or something. That's what you should be concerned about."

We're talking about private citizens who chose to make a movie here, this isn't a corporate environment, the southpark creators are not bound by any contract that they willingly signed that states they must curb their offensiveness to particular groups.

[edit: actually they signed something with comedy central surely, but thats an internal affair for them, this has been released to the public now]

> "This particular example, is just an attack on an alternative religion"

Alternative to what? That doesn't even make sense, you were just mentioning, as if it had any weight, the fact they are 1 billion+

> "and what really hides behind this "freedom of speech" diversion is cultural intolerance and anti-muslim sentiment."

You don't know that, you're speculating, but you know what, I'll concede that a lot of it can be that.
Theres also a lot of anti-catholic sentiment, a LOT of anti-atheist sentiment, etc.
I believe freedom of speech covers hate speech as well.

"Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters" - Rosa Luxemburg.

> "The people who will argue that it should be allowed to mock another persons God will say nothing when Australia censors."

Actually I will stand up against stupid australian censorship and criticize it. One doesn't preclude the other.

> "If you want to fight for freedom of speech, then fight for real freedom of speech, not for this type of cultural attacks that try to use freedom of speech as their reason."

Actually I think the place that needs freedom of speech the most in the world right now is the muslim world, and we should lead by example, and yes, the example of mocking, and iconoclasm. And I know muslims out there that agree with that position.
Fine art is (generally) static, but film and theatre are not, they're the performing arts and this is where I believe video games fall. Where is the difference between Titanic and Avatar? Is Avatar not art or is it excluded because of graphics? Is Shreck not art because it's even more computerised? Where is the line? There isn't one, people insist there is a line somewhere yet they, like Ebert, fail to define where and why that line is.

As I said, there are many things I wouldn't consider art, but I know for a fact 90% of people disagree with me.
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Way to spoil it. Whatever, Muhammed was already in an earlier episode with superpowers and everything.
I am really interested: what could help your grandmother use a computer? Why can't she?
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you are walking down the road. you see a women being raped. do you call him evil out of sheer compassion for the woman or do you sit back and think may that's not wrong. i have sexual thoughts sometimes so may be i ought to correct myself first before i comment on the rightness or wrongness of the rapist. lets face it muhammad is not god's prophet. i will not offer any arguments for it other than the quote "mythology is the disease of language". judged purely from his actions he is NOT an example we ought to follow. i think euler or beethoven are a far better candidates for a role model.
> Under section 105 of the US Copyright Act, works produced by the US government are not entitled to domestic copyright protection and are therefore, essentially, public domain.

What if the works are derivative of works licensed under the GPL?
They already had an actual depiction of Mohammed several seasons ago. His full body and face were shown. He was a superhero. Nobody cared. If they depicted Mohammed now, nobody would come after them. The networks won't allow it now.

People seem to forget that a big part of the controversy surrounding the cartoons in Denmark wasn't just that Mohammed was portrayed, but that he was portrayed as a terrorist and performing lewd acts.
While their example use cases are pretty limited, I like the elegance this concept.
He has a very strong personal attachment to Apple and it looks like he thinks Apple was wronged. I don't really understand cheerleading a $230b company to prosecute a blogger for photographing and returning a phone lost in public, but he's not alone in that. People take Apple personally.

The humorous thing is Gruber leaks information about Apple all the time, so it must only be wrong in his mind when you have proof (or well, show the proof). Apple got their hardware back and in the end all that happened was rumors were confirmed. It's an ego hit for Jobs, but he could use a few of those.