skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
There's already unrest in the world. It all feels like 1930s since a few years :/
Hype harms the brain.

>> In the last couple of years, magic started happening in AI. Techniques started working, or started working much better, and new techniques have appeared, especially around machine learning ('ML'), and when those were applied to some long-standing and important use cases we started getting dramatically better results. For example, the error rates for image recognition, speech recognition and natural language processing have collapsed to close to human rates, at least on some measurements.

Let's see.

a) Magic? Really?

b) "The last couple of years" goes back to 2014. Machine learning's big break into the mainstream happened at least in 2012, when a conv net won ILSVCR [1]. Did the op not look further back before reporting on all this "magic"?

c) Unfortunately no "new techniques" have appeared. Convolutional neural networks date from 1988 [2]. LSTM Recurrent Neural Networks were first described in 1997 [3]. Machine learning in general is pretty much as old as GOFAI, with the earliest connectionist ideas detailed in the 1950s [4].

All this is really well known and understood and not at all controversial- Geoff Hinton himself is on record explaining that the recent boom is due to more data and more processing power (I can dig up a link if there is any doubt).

d) "the error rates for image recognition, speech recognition and natural language processing have collapsed to close to human rates, at least on some measurements"

In image recognition, the big success story is the ImageNet results detailed above. For speech processing I'm told there's been a big jump also, someone else could give an example.

For natural language processing: not in your wildest dreams. We're nowhere near "close to human rates" in any way, shape or form, unless you count very restricted results like how good this or that natural language parser does on a one-million word corpus like the Brown corpus. Unfortunately, that counts for nothing.

Now, most of that is stuff you can find easily on wikipedia with a bit of reading. There's absolutely no reason to waste peoples' times with disinformation and pointless overhyping.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ImageNet

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convolutional_neural_network#H...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recurrent_neural_network#Long_...

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perceptron#History
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It wasn't just your comment but the ridiculous response it gave rise to. I marked the entire subthread off topic because it seemed to me the two were connected, even though I don't you intended a flamewar.
That's exactly it. And if something like this happens, Google's ad model is pretty much toast. That would be bad news for them in general.
> "Where are they going to get their stuff then?"

Wherever the UK citizens choose to, just like it's up to EU citizens whether they want to buy from the UK. We have a global market, (for the most part) anyone can buy anything from anyone else. The UK is likely to experience price rises for EU goods, and the EU is likely to experience price rises for UK goods, but if customers still want a particular product and can afford it even with the price rise then they'll continue to buy it.

> "Apparently the pound just fell to a century-wide low..."

That's just the markets reacting to uncertainty. The future is indeed more uncertain, so it's to be expected, but uncertainty does not necessarily mean a downturn in the long run.
Gerrymandering and other shady crap are still commonplace.
The Labour party heartlands in England and Wales voted pretty much unanimously in favor to leave.

Jeremy Corbyn is already taking flak for this outcome:
http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/24northnational/Labour-inq...
https://next.ft.com/content/a035f3d2-39c4-11e6-a780-b48ed7b6...
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/jeremy-corbyn-blamed-f...
"reifiable" = "able to be reified", where "to reify" means "to make something abstract concrete or real".

So, for example, Scheme's call/cc function reifies continuations- it take a continuation, an abstract control-flow concept, and turns it into a concrete object that you can pass around and manipulate in code. Therefore, continuations are reifiable in Scheme.
I was thinking the same thing, Turmoil in Europe, Trump president, a few more natural disasters (earthquakes in California, maybe?), Russia eating another part of what is currently eastern Europe, and a few more large scale terrorism attacks. Tada, we're now in a post-apocalyptic world.

That sound almost too easy. If we are lucky, we could eventually see this in a blockbuster Hollywood movie before it really happens.
Agree, I didn't consider this.
> Ultimately trade deals are important not just to the UK but to the countries it trades with. People in power will make deals happen because they have to.

It's wishful thinking that the deals will be as favourable to the UK, with its now much smaller leverage.
Yes, they can. Usually you're lucky if it only takes years to negotiate and finalize them. Decades are not unheard of.
As the original poster, my intention was to talk about the free movement of people which implied the freedom of employment. Sorry for the misunderstanding, as I'm not a native English speaker.
In the mean time, there is a compiled version in the release page.
Unfortunately this will also be reflected on other countries, give it a few months and we'll be dealing with the same kind of shit in Italy, France etc...
The saddest part is that older people(fact) practically decided for the future of the younger ones.
I totally agree with you. As far as PhotoShop is concerned, I always could get by FOSS, I have never used this thing. But I am a developer.
The Central Banks are simply not creating enough inflation, if demand is a problem.

In the most extreme case, the central bank can either just buy any assets under the sun, or start dropping cash from helicopters (slightly more realistically: give every citizen a bunch of money).

In any case, have you heard of nominal income level targeting?

Ie the central bank instead of targeting inflation, targets what's more important: the aggregate income of all workers. (Targeting Gross Domestic Income instead of just the wage share is also possible.)

They set a target of eg 5% nominal growth a year, and announce it. Then do everything necessary to make it happen.
Hopefully, since that would have the least negative fallout. The untangling of connections across the Channel will take some time.

OTOH, looking at other possible referendums across Europe, I would like it to be clear what an exit from the EU entails as soon as possible. I don't think leave voters will get what they had hoped for, vide https://amp.twimg.com/v/6ca5195b-a8a5-4b20-b209-92440b9a25d6
Your EU national ID (Spain, France, Italy, etc) is enough for accessing UK. In the airports is only a simple check, not passport check...

Now try to enter LAX or JFK with your national ID and without a visa...
> Crazy hairdos on top of influential Anglo Saxon countries is bull market it seems.

Let's hope NL will manage to avoid that.

In a way the 'brexit' may be the strongest shot in the arm for the rest of European unity if the consequences are quick and harsh enough. That would be a real pity for the people in the UK, but it may still have some positive effect.

And there is always a way back.

For now, this is a pretty black day in history.
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So the pound falling to the lowest point in decades is just unfounded panic?

There is a whole lot of uncertainty going around, and the Leave campaign was full of optimistic assumptions about the EUs good will.
> And the migrant crisis, which is likely only at its beginning (look at african demographic projections)

African demographic projections which shows Africa's population growth slowly dropping? Coupled with economic projections which shows most African economies growing at far faster rates than Europe? With some African countries, like Nigeria, likely to overtake the UK in total GDP (not per capita) over the next 20-30 years? Largely as a result of massively improved stability and fewer wars over the last decade.

Africa has plenty of challenges, but they're mostly headed the right way. And they're also slowly but steadily moving towards a far more ambitious union project than the EU, with several of the African Union pillars (regional closer unions like ECOWAS serves as "first stage" integration) hard at work at monetary unions and extensive integration.

Of course things can change - nobody expected Syria to blow up the way it did and more than we expected Yugoslavia to collapse as violently as it did.

But at the moment, countries like Nigeria are seeing graduates etc. returning in droves from the UK because the opportunities there are immense, cost of living low (though housing prices in parts of places like Lagos can rival London) and growth at levels you can't hope for in the UK.
Don´t know what you did, but the last time I got off the plane in London (travelled from Germany), I showed my Personalausweis ("small" passport, everybody in Germany has one) and were good to go and leave the airport. No checks, no questions, nothing.
And still it's unable to e.g. abolish the travesty of European Parliament's monthly travel to Strasbourg. Is that according to democratic will of European people? Hardly not.

It's not a hugely significant thing - maybe costs just a hundred million € per year, or a bit more, not a lot in EU context - but its symbolic nature about the essence of European Union is telling.
> Le Pen will win the next elections in France

Yeah... not a chance really.
As pg once put it, "Note those words most and probably". (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4922426)

This is an obviously historic event, it's worth discussing if we can keep the discussion from becoming too vitriolic, and experience has shown that when something like this happens, there's no keeping it off HN anyhow.

I just hope the discussion doesn't degrade too hopelessly over the next few hours, because it's too late to keep doing this over here.
I don't think an undemocratic government is required to achieve freedom of movement across the EU states. The problem however is that this is the only choice we have right now (and I sincerely hope the brexit will lead to a more democratic EU, instead of a collapse).
Personally I think an undemocratic central government limits your freedom a lot more than any other benefits that might come from supporting such a government.
>> "It's highly unlikely that Jeremy Corbyn would remain as the leader of the Labour either since there seems to be an outrage amongst Labour MP's due to the overwhelming number of their core constituencies voting to leave."

I was pretty happy with Corbyn so far but his complete lack of doing anything throughout this campaign is embarrassing. I'm guessing he didn't want to lose working-class votes but that makes him as bad as Boris Johnson. Deciding the fate of the country base don what's best for his political career.
I think that is very likely.
Irish unification would be a silver lining to this awfulness.
Yes I really do wonder what people think they will accomplish by e.g. waving Mexican flags in protest and yelling in Spanish. I'm living in Guatemala right now, and even out of the people that hate Trump, I've not heard a single one make any positive comment about those protestors.
The Borris / Farage coalition feels like some ridiculous parody joke from "Day Today" / "On the Hour".
Functional decomposition != refactoring.

They are two completely different processes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_decomposition

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_refactoring
You're throwing unrelated things together.

- The Swiss move is one-sided, it's not yet implemented. There's a good chance their EU treaties get cancelled when they implement it.
- The border controls some countries implemented are a suspension of certain Schenfen rules. They do not affect the free movement of people within the EU. Also these Schengen rules have never applied to the UK.
You likely are highly qualified. This is different than e.g. the large number of people who came to germany last year where many (I suppose) don't have a good compatible education. Also you have a job, this is different than when you get a permit to e.g. enter China without being able to support yourself. - What do you mean with the remark about the guy working with kids? What issues?
I don't want another independence referendum: I have a visceral distrust/dislike for politicians anyway and I definitely didn't want a Scottish Parliament in the first place!

That being said, I reckon they will have another indy referendum regardless but I also see three potential scenarios that might stop it going ahead:

1. Britain prospers like crazy now we are out of the EU
2. The EU collapses (I think this is likely. Maybe not in the next 2 years but likely!)
3. A bunch of other countries decide to flee the EU as well. This would bring about 2 I reckon.

Imagine if Germany decided to leave! That would kill the EU stone dead I reckon.
Actually the UK is likely to become less than Switzerland in terms of integration with Europe.

There are many treaties between Switzerland and EU, and after they slammed the door I just don't see EU countries accepting the same deals with UK.
I find the '5th largest economy' argument vacuous. When the UK joined the EU in 1973 it was the world's 5th largest economy and represented a much larger portion of European GDP. In spite of that they were forced to accept the terms of the EEC and the terms of the French President Pompidou. Why would being the '5th largest economy' have a bearing this time?
We are working on exactly this at https://snips.ai ! Check this blog post which explains what we are building: https://medium.com/@javimaker/what-apples-privacy-announceme...

Snips organizes all your information and make it searchable intelligently and actionable fast (it predicts your recurrent patterns so you can order a Uber in one tap)
Isn't UK going to protect its own businesses and jobs? Not everyone is pro-trade in Leave camp, afaik.
Does it affect asia ?
The article's toy model is too stark to capture this nuance.
Not exactly a passport check but more an identity check. As French, a simple id card (French one) was enough for us to cross.
I think the original EU (EEC) idea of a free economic trade zone was one that members could share and embrace. However, the Maastricht Treaty in 1993 went too far in "uniting" countries which do not have shared values, cultures and economic systems and priorities.

Now we have a two-tier Europe with rich and poorer EU states. Capital and investment leaves the rich states for the poorer ones because of low wages and costs, while population leaves the poor for the richer states for their higher paying jobs and generous social welfare support.

Guess where all the refugees and economic migrants want to live?

It's a reality that cannot be sustained.
The elites are one thing, and actual European people are another. Of course the elites have a disproportionate amount of control but that's true of any institution but it doesn't invalidate the institution. European people by and large enjoy a better quality of life because of free trade, movement and most importantly peace. That there's one set of scoundrels at the top vs another isn't as important as is made out. At the end of the day all that will happen in the UK now is a new set of elites take control (the old rule Britannia brigade that were previously on the wane) and there won't be the buffer of a larger enveloping organisation to help smooth over the bumps. Britain has been declining recently because that's what happens to spent colonial powers, not because they were in the EU.
> What if the package is differently named on different distributions?

You write a case/when block that chooses the right name.

> What if one distribution's version of the package isn't compatible with your use of it?

Rarely happens, but then you just compile/package your own. Or solve the incompatibility from the other side.

> Besides, how often do you switch between distributions on your servers?

Rarely. More often you want to reuse configuration management code from a common repository which installs X, but abstracts the distro differences because many people collaborated on it. Also, often you're running multiple distros within the same company but it helps to have the same deploy/management process.

(all answers from personal experience)
Yes, so the question is: why doesn't it show up in the statistics? (Please read the article..)
I wonder if it's possible for example the Netherlands or Germany to make a seperate trade agreement with England.

But i think that in the long run some company's will act as proxy's to deliver goods and workers, so nothing will change, just some other way's of looking at it..
The point stands though. US of E would be a beautiful thing.

> Its dream, while noble, does not speak to ordinary people.

Maybe not ordinary old guya. Many young people have a cosmopolitan attitude. They see themselves as Europeans first, and they like the freedom to live and work anywhere, not just within some postage stamp sized area like Slovenia.

I disagree that the dream is "dead"---in fact, Brexit might make it easier to integrate, since the biggest integration opponent is now gone
Well the point of that is to affect NPV of money right and force investment. And corporations go meh, too much risk. I think that's what's happening. I think even the negative interest rate isn't going to make them budge because the profit margins are razor thin, and even if you make something doesn't mean it will all not be wasted. The economy is saturated and the corps don't know how to make profit in it so they rather sit around and do nothing, and let China and other countries produce everything and then try to be the middle man or something as such with minimal risk and investment.

ex. of stuff corps are trying to get those profit margins http://imgur.com/9P9vT5r
Don't see the EU surviving without the UK.

As long a Germany and France are on board, the EU will survive in some form. The UK has always been an obstacle to tighter integration, and that obstacle will likely be gone soon.
Gibraltar, Scotland, Northern Ireland (what will become of the peace process?). Effectively the UK is left with Wales. Is it even a 'K' any more? Would that take the 'G' out of GB?
All democratic polities have weird little quirks which are unpopular but never remotely likely to become an election defining issue
I mean, the UK has a House of Lords...
As someone from Ireland I'm really not sure I could be bothered dealing with all the shit that could entail. Would prefer if they just went independent and joined the EU as a separate country.
If you're interested in Win32 development with Go, I've built a small library for personal use, for quick prototyping of WinAPI calls without cgo and without having to pre-declare each function:

https://github.com/akavel/winq

(godoc: https://godoc.org/github.com/akavel/winq)
>Le Pen will win the next elections in France and then they'll leave too.

They have no intentions to actually leave, their economic program doesn't even make sense.
Multiple banking houses have at least indicated that they're willing to migrate. Even more important, a lot of financial products in the banking/insurance sector rely on passporting, that is if they're accepted in one EU country, they can be sold anywhere in the EU. That country used to be England up to now. Given that nobody knows if/when the real separation will happen, I fully expect banks and insurances to hedge their bets and start moving that to other countries.
More like Cyprus and Malta. I figure the UK is not ready to split yet, no?
I suspect that a country has to have referendums fairly often for them to work as intended.

One problem in the UK was that people were answering different questions to the one asked.
> So the pound falling to the lowest point in decades is just unfounded panic?

At this point yes, no one has any real idea of the out come. Investors are just dumping pounds and British investments because they have no clue as to what is going to happen. But, just in case it's bad, money is moved to investments that is perceived to be safer. The UK isn't even out of the EU yet, and it won't be for years.

I'm not saying it's not going to be bumpy, or that the British aren't going to become a little poorer. It's just not going to be the end of British economy. It won't devolve into a third world economy, and certainly not over night.
Wow https://twitter.com/JillFilipovic/status/746226435891724288
I think the departure of the UK (highest military spending) is making everyone feel less safe.
When left-winger insults right-winger, it's not against TOS, but when right-winger insult left-winger, it is. Curious, really...
It's not. It has something to do with the catalytic converter needing some amount of unburnt fuel to work properly. But the Volkswagen engines are so efficient that they burn the fuel too efficiently. So the catalytic converter is unable to perform it's function.
Breaking up a large functions into smaller functions isn't even (strictly speaking) functional decomposition because not every sub-function might be dependent on the previous function. "Extract function" is a kind of refactoring, but not refactoring itself.