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This is an incredibly insightful comment and I thank you for sharing your thoughts.

You've put into words something I've been feeling and trying to express for a while. "How does it make you feel?" is an incredibly important question and unfortunately for Google, something you can't really quantify (see: Circles and Google+).

Actually Circles and Google+ is a great example that we can look at to see how the feel of a product can help lead to it's eventual downfall. When someone "friend requested" you on Facebook, you had a simple decision to make: "Is this person a friend of mine?". While everyone has their own definition of "friend", it's pretty easy to make a decision and sometimes you're gonna have to say "no" but that's fine; it feels bad for a short amount of time.

With Circles and Google+, you had to ask yourself: "Do I know this person?", "Is this person a friend of mine?", "But how close am I to them really?", "Should I add them to the family circle? but they're not really family...", and so on. The worst part is, you had to do this all upfront. When you have to reflect about that many things about a human being, it starts to become far more negative than it has to be. And if you're going thru this experience all the time, then good luck. Now Facebook has it's issues too, but see how such a subtly negative "feel" to a product can be real friction.

I recently heard someone make the argument that while a lot of the Google AI tech is impressive, they haven't really been able to build something that feels that useful as a product in the real world. It's an impressive tech demo for sure at Google's conferences, but once the tech makes it to Android, they don't really become used all that much. Take Now-On-Tap, for example. It was a highly touted feature on Android: an incredible ability to rip context from whatever you were looking at on your phone. Now you hardly see it mentioned and people don't really seem to use it that much. Google Now stuff is cool too, but besides airplane reminders and calendar integration, is it really that useful day to day? I suspect most people would say no.

Look...all of the stuff Google does is very cool and very impressive...but it just lack a certain human feel to it. A certain simplicity in how something is useful. These AI experiences are not predictably useful. They aren't experiences you can rely on. Now I'm certainly generalizing a bit, and I know someone will come up with some counterexamples (please do! I'm curious), but I think you understand the sentiment I'm trying to convey: that Apple just understands the user from a different vantage point than Google simply by asking how something make them feel (and Jony Ive has emphasized this question time and time again, though he sometimes gets made fun of for his overzealousness).
Hmm... What happens to the union with Ireland then?

Will it still be possible to travel from Ireland to the UK without showing documents?

If not... then will there be a new fence across Ireland (between north and south)?
Just a couple of years ago Scotland were all set. Then some EPP crony said something about not being in the EU any more and swung the vote.

As for NI - for the sake of peace that would be a more drawn out process.
And yet switzerland has one of the highest percentages of immigrants. Switzerland has a foreigners share of ~24%. Except Luxembourg every other EU nation has less immigrants than switzerland. As an example, Great Britain has only ~8%.
Well, I've never taken a plane within the EU, but usually the border checks are before boarding, not when you get off the plane. Similarly, the border checks are in Calais for Eurotunnel and in Paris or Brussels station for Eurostar.

You have to embark and go through border checks 30 minutes before departure with Eurostar, that's a fact. Whether you will have to answer questions is very random and doesn't seem to depend on whether you give them a passport or just French ID. My wife has a Canadian passport and a French residency permit and this does make them ask more questions though.

Eurotunnel checks were lighter when I used to take it, but that was before the Calais crisis so I would guess it has become more bothersome lately.

In any case, you just can't say it's as easy as just hoping in your car and driving to Belgium and back to fetch your beer.
So many cool projects have been borne out of the concepts in Bret's previous talks. I hope this trend continues.
The point is that majorities are allowed to make some decisions, not all. At the broadest level, there are rights which no majority can take away. Some fundamental changes require super majorities. Then at a geographical level, decision making can also be split. Local councils handle local affairs. Devolution allows some decisions to be made at a regional level. While many Brits bristle at decisions being made in far off Brussels, many Scots bristle at decisions made in London.
I am optimistic ... The EU has leverage. And the revanche towards UK may unite the continent.

Also the Anglo-Saxon worldview ... and their laizes faire approach is incompatible with the continental worldview. I honestly believe that UK impeded European unity with their "special" status inside.

If the EU plays its cards correctly we may remove the U from UK, take in the parts, and then include England and Whales ... on our terms. Realpolitik is fun thing to play.
Because these are countries that share some really great values like a belief in human freedom, democracy, and free markets. We share a taste for competitive capitalism and individual initiative. Our foreign policy goals are very aligned. It would be the most powerful and rich bloc in the history of the world. Why wouldn't it be a good thing?
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I'm really not that invested in this. I just think it's amazing that Cameron would let it happen. What a massive mistake. And what a way to to end your career and cement in your legacy as the person who to get short term gain (ukip support) at an election with the cost of destroyed an economy.

I'm very my pro remain. People voting to leave is mostly about not understanding what your losing. Strong tightly integrated economies don't start wars with each other.
Careful with the French Revolution. I'm sure you know but I was an adult before I understood how insanely brutal that thing was, not only towards former monarchy and nobility but also, or possibly even especially, towards common people.
A lot of hate for him came from his inherited wealth. He had no idea how austerity was hitting people. Everyone I know who works has given up going on holiday, buying cars, buying nice food. We're all sick of it. There is plenty of money in the UK and watching a rich PM tell us to tighten our belts.... psh.
What culture do Germans, Greeks, Latvians, Bulgarians, Fins, and Spaniards share? It takes more than vastly differing attachments to a vague sense of liberalism and a desire to not blow the continent to high hell again.
I've driven past Gibraltar. My initial intention was to go visit, but they have a significant border. The UK is outside of the Schengen area, so Gibraltar is there checking passports just like they will be in a few years when out of the EU.
I blame the cookie law. You force millions of websurfers to click daily on OK buttons which basically say "EU make some bloody stupid laws" and you get some advertisment effect in the end.
> Especially I am sad for the young generation in the UK. A very large part (about 75%) voted to stay in Europe, and this future is taken from them.

That's indeed really sad. Young Europeans have enjoyed a freedom to choose where to study, live and work that was unprecedented in Europe. What will come next, with the resurgence of nationalism and bigotry in Europe, is very difficult to say, but I see no good coming out of this.
I wonder how much bank the funds that shorted the pound are making. Some conducted their own polls
Call us whatever you want, it doesn't affect us anymore.
Sorry. I should have also linked to the numbers. I got the external link from the Wehrmacht wiki article: http://www.feldgrau.com/stats.html

That table has nothing older than 1939, but the number in 1939 was still pretty impressive.

I also got confused, the 12,000,000 peak is directly comparable to the recent 178,000 since "Wehrmacht" was the previous name for the complete "unified" armed forces, not just the army.

1939:	4,722,000+
1940:	6,600,000+
1941:	8,154,000+
1942:	9,580,000+
1943:	11,280,000+
1944:	12,070,000+
1945:	9,701,000+
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Nigel Farage. Who will stay in his position as MEP until the next reelection. And he probably gets paid in EUR.
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He'll go down in history as one of the worst leaders the UK ever had. Which he already was before yesterday. By the way, if he let the people decide on such a super topic as leave/remain in the EU, why does he not let his people vote on whether they want total surveillance or not? If they want a police state? Why can't they decide on stuff that affects their daily lives in a potential negative way?
Or will they ignore the voice of the voters, Boaty McBoatface-style?
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Yeah that's something missed by so many (and hardly pointed out by Leave - what a crap campaign).

The EU is not the only way to get the good bits of European integration. It badly needs some competition. I wish the UK would create a competitor to the EU and start advertising the new union to EU member states.
...and basing their answers on blatant lies. (EG We can spend some of the £350m per week on NHS.)
> Swift is the only language I know of that has grapheme clusters as the default unit of character

Also Elixir and Perl 6. For a bit more info see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=
Characters have a script associated with them (e.g. Latin), and caseness is also part of a character's properties.

Now, language-specific subsets¹ of those are a bit iffy to deal with. Especially when text can contain loan words from other languages, so in my experience it's rarely a useful thing to ask for.

¹ Yes, subsets. Latin letters lowercase is not the set abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz. It is the set

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How do you condense that again into language-specific subsets? Every letter that appears in a word in a dictionary? Then at least é belongs to German as well, even though it's usually not considered part of the German Latin subset. Unicode stays clear of that issue by simply not defining what script subsets a character belongs to (rightfully so, IMHO).
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I beg to differ. The more people from any single European country travel across Europe, the more they figure out that there are almost zero cultural differences between their countries.

Things that people used to call 'typically French/German/Italian/Spanish/Slovak/Greek' are increasingly seen as typically European. I can't back this statistically, but virtually all the people I met in my life who have lived in at least two EU countries think this way. I honestly can't think of a single person who I've known and thinks otherwise and I should know because this topic almost always comes in discussions when you get to know somebody.

Of course, there are some minor cultural differences, but these are not particularly larger than the ones found in the US, India, China, Brazil, or the Russian Federation for that matter.
Especially given how cheap real estate in Berlin is compared to London.
So your respect for democracy is ...well zero !
European citizens can already move freely between Iceland, Norway and Liechtenstein which are members of the EEA, but not the EU.

There are also significant movement and trade freedoms with Switzerland, which isn't even a member of the EEA.
You can feel European and (as in my case) Danish at the same time, and I do. It's not mutually exclusive.

I think the problem with EU is primarily one of communication. The member states should do more to inform the public of what is going on in the EU, and EU should do more to avoid negotiations behind closed doors (because how can you ever trust a process like that?).
Of course people benefit. And if the EU had never existed, many of those same benefits would have been created via a patchwork of treaties and deals anyway.

The EU is not a choice between integration and chaos, despite what Brussels wants people to believe. European economies were integrating before the EU anyway.
The EU "central government" is made of the union of the governments of the constituent states of the EU. I'm absolutely in favor of directly electing a EU government instead of using the intergovernmental approach, but who will convince state governments to accept that?
> It's totally inappropriate - most of these students would fail fizzbuzz.

Maybe this is related to the common occurrence of people who can provide stellar answers to interview questions about inheritance hierarchies and object composition... and yet can't pass a basic fizzbuzz style test?
"imports are things we get to keep."

This is not true at all. Food is eaten. Energy gets used up. Electronics depreciate (very) quickly. Most physical goods wear out. Etc.

The only imports you get to "keep" long term are a few things like gold, cement, etc.
"We will fuck UK over"
"Now we will finally pursue tighter integration"

I have to say, with this kind of attitude, I am even more glad that the UK has left the EU. Who would want to be partners with this kind of spite and hatred?
"OOP to me means only messaging, local retention and protection and hiding of state-process, and extreme LateBinding of all things."

What he's describing is the essence of Erlang.
With PR machine, I mean the EU itself organizing ways to teach the people. Simple suggestion: iirc a lot of people think the EU costs a lot of money. Well you could post an add in each country with a pie diagram of the countries spendings.

"your people"? You mean that from the perspective of the politicians ? Or from my perspective ?
Really!? Everyone I know who works is very pleased with how the economy has recovered, many friends under 30 have bought a house (without parental help), many are nearing 40% tax bracket and my Facebook feed is full of people going on holiday. Not sure which UK you are living in but the one I'm in is pretty nice - well it was, until this vote.

And before you say I'm in some kind of elite I run a small factory in the north east of England and even my lower paid members of staff go on holiday once a year.
I heard from Adobe that they will close their headquarter near London and move to their main operation to the Paris office. The UK branch essentially becomes a sales office, nothing more.
I agree with you that high unemployment leads to civil unrest, and you can only hope that trustworthy individuals can fill the power vacuum that leads to. It's not a completely hopeless situation, you've got groups like Podemos in Spain pushing forward, and I think the likes of Corbyn in the UK and Sanders in the US represent the interests of the working class and middle class of their respective countries (even if Sanders doesn't get elected, he seems to be inspiring more people to get involved in the political process to push for the things that benefit the majority).

As for isolationism leading to war, I think this I think has been blown out of proportion. Of course in extreme examples it can happen, but I'd suggest at most we'd be looking at Australian-style economic protectionism rather than North Korean-style isolationism.
Strangely, FTSE is less down than the major EU exchanges.
> Realpolitik is fun thing to play.

I don't agree with that. You're assuming we know the outcome and with shifts like these the real results won't be in for generations to come.
And the part of the UK most strongly in favour of remaining in the EU was London, which is the part of England where the decisions get made...
I really don't think Boris cared one way of the other (Remain/Leave), he just saw a way to position himself for PM and took it.
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I don't know about Spain, but why would France want a referendum of its own? France is going to be a big beneficiary of UK leaving the EU. It would make zero sense for France to want to leave the EU, unless the EU members are moronic and give the UK a sweet deal for leaving...then sure, then I could see it. But that would be a really, really stupid thing of EU to do.

Also, Scotland may want a referendum so it can stay in the EU, so win for EU here.
My gosh, loads of people commenting.

Hacker news is indulged in politics as we speak. It's a shame really.

But to add my views to the board...

Yes the EU wasn't perfect. I wouldn't call it undemocratic, or despotic, or communist, fascist, etc...

But it was start of something getting people together. Making Europe a whole.

Now the Brexit sparked other right wing parties in member countries to gain popularity. And we all can remember where far right nationalism leads to.

Remember Hitler being on the cover of Time magazine? Because I do.
Throughout the campaign he has been claiming the UK are not quitters, first thing he does, is quit!
I find it interesting that everyone gets so up-beat about the ideology or philosophical debate about objects sending each object messages, hell even not relying to a message one object send you until a later date. Without even thinking about concurrency, state, and hell even the basics such as cyclic loops within a event based system!

Though I keep hearing from Alan and other prominent language designers that we still are holding onto this old 1960 mental model of command and control, or structured design concepts. Even some well spoken people suggest that the whole notion of object's are worthless to programmers because it takes place within the notion of classes and constraints of the machine.

This whole philosophical debate about understanding/miss-understanding/correct usage of OOP is just a complete waste of time.

For what its worth I consider object's simply as a basic level category of procedures and data tied to a namespace. If the category requires state then consider it as a object otherwise its considered a module.

I've seen too many project's that have drunken the cool aid and has resulted in 5-10 level deep inheritance tree's with their own branching logic trying to fit behavior to a specific taxonomy.
> those businesses who can easily move does so.
hmm I'm struggling with this argument. So you have a trade deficit now - if UK companies (who presumably now contribute mostly to exports, not imports) move away, the trace deficit becomes larger, not smaller.

You're right of course. I blame lack of sleep - I was thinking the balance was the other way. I'll blame lack of sleep.

> You mainly mean Ford UK I assume (that's the only one I know of with a high volume)?

I don't know about volume. But e.g. Nissan employs 6700 people in Sunderland. The purpose of the plant is mainly to serve the EU market. Any kind of tariff on imports from the UK would make it attractive for them to move it elsewhere.

> What I don't see is how this would be in the interest of the EU. Germany would be very much against it.

It would be in the interest of many EU countries to make it attractive for those companies to move their plants to a country that will remain in the EU.

> The others (mostly non manufacturing countries without high stakes in the game) would most likely not want to have high taxes on one of the favourite brands.

It takes very little to block an agreement with the UK they don't like. And it wouldn't take long to see the main relieved by making some of those companies move manufacturing to EU countries.
Can't speak for OP but I'm British born and lived here all my life. I'm a supporter of the UK remaining in the EU. I lived under a delusion that most of my fellow countrymen were at heart sensible and forward looking, even if they grumble sometimes. Now it turns out that 52% of them are in fact short-sighted, xenophobic idiots. If that is what being British is, than I don't feel British.
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> because the EU does not want to give any encouragement to the other countries which want to leave the EU

That's not the only reason. UK is taking advantage of its position as a global financial hub in the EU. It's in the EUs interest to make the UK less attractive for foreign investment.
He didn't need to say it.

His behavior in Eastern Ukraine says it for him. His saber ratting about the Balkans says it for him.
> Secondly, why would the UK end up with a Norway or Switzerland deal, when the UK is the 5th largest economy in the world?

As of now, France is the 5th largest economy of the world. The Pound collapsing has already bumped the UK down.

Yes, eventually there will be a relatively free trade agreement in place. But still the UK will have to abide to any European regulation, if they want to trade. Just that they do no longer get a vote on those regulations.
Partly true but short sighted. Winning an election isn't just cutaneous reaction. What will he do that can fix things for everybody .. Not saying that his opponents did good or will do better.
How is that in my way different to how laws are drawn up in any other country? If I, as a Londoner, voted for a labour mp but am then forced to accept laws imposed by a majority Tory government, then what's the difference?
> Secondly, why would the UK end up with a Norway or Switzerland deal, when the UK is the 5th largest economy in the world?

Well, 6th now. Sorry about that. France said "bonjour" as you passed.