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> Not so sure on this one: one thing that the UK is an example of is its respect for democracy

Ha! Let's remind each other about this conversation in 3 months and review our arguments.
Pretty interesting, you could sell to different bidders in different countries.
I see some parallels between J2EE and containers. In both cases it is a platform that runs a "bundled application" with the hope of interoperability and ease of use. Download and deploy the .war (and edit five .xml config files) and you're done. Pull the image and run CMD in it, and you're done.

No matter how good the "easy app runner" platform is, one still has to specify the network between apps, logical dependencies, and --volume dependencies. And also "runtime config" to the individual apps. I really like the docker compose approach, but does a docker compose recipe work on every docker hosting provider? Also, the 12factor app approach is good, but is just a bunch of ENV vars sufficient for every config one might want to do for an app?
What does mean for the US economy in terms of exports to the UK and larger EU countries? The pound drops sharply (~15%). The Euro down to $1.08. Does this mean that a stronger dollar will negatively impact US exports?
Now this is an interesting comment. Does anyone have specifics about the timeline with respect to the treaties already binding the UK to other EU members?

EDIT: As mentioned elsewhere, here's an interesting summary with projected timelines: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachm...
> same values and connected markets and economies, euro zone

Same values, I beg to differ. The values of a Greek and of a German could be completely different as far as you know. Connected Markets? The EU has become a tariff-heavy zone, the opposite of a Free Market - look at how many trade agreements we have to regulate and impeach free markets. And the TPP, with the blessing of most EU members (in secret).

There's no recipe to avoid war, but political stability is certainly correlated with economic prosperity. The EU is not making this happen, so we should see it slowly desintegrate.
Yes, absolutely, it's the same situation. Your argument is now that Scotland should break away from the UK.

Congratulations, you will see the United Kingdom disappear in your lifetime.
I'm inclined to agree given that voting is not compulsory. In Australia, where voting in all elections and referenda is compulsory, I would have to stridently disagree. I suspect the result today was skewed by the big swing towards the 'Remain' vote following the assassination of Jo Cox causing a lot of 'Remain' voters choosing to stay at home in the expectation of 'Remain' comfortably prevailing.
Since we don't need one story about this at #1 and another at #2, I guess we'll call this thread the dupe and consider the discussion moved to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11966167.
>unjust to judge any individual based on anything but their own actions. It's not right to guess what they might do and condemn them for it.

I'm not suggesting condemning anyone. Just condemning their views and making it publicly unacceptable, and perhaps letting that provide some advice to immigration policy. Similar to how the Mormon church was let know in no uncertain terms that racial discrimination was not OK, despite their religion.[1]

A blanket ban (based on what, like you say, professed religion?) is extremely uncomfortable for exactly the reasons you lay out. But so is pretending there's nothing objectionable and that there's just a few people here and there that have "extreme" views.

My only point in this whole thread is that the reason a lot of people might be leaning right is that the left politicians I've seen don't seem to be willing to admit there might be belief issues. No need to condemn anyone, just condemn certain views. Note some ideas are not OK, and that the US or EU's values need to win out.

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_people_and_Mormonism
This is literally delusional.
The process for withdrawing from the European Union [pdf]
This is a disaster. Something with such a huge impact on global society as a whole should have required a 2/3 majority.
At least one major investment bank has told its HR staff it is planning to move, and will start processing redundancies or staff transfers as soon as possible. The people and the money started preparing to move months ago - the question is just how much of it.

In any case, expect a lot of the money to pile into other currencies and not get spent as people try to ride this out.
This is precisely the case. The integrity of the entire block is now in question as any trade with the U.K. Will now jeopardize some interests internal to the eu. Nationalism is inevitable. Let's hope this does not culminate in war.
The EU needs to move carefully now: it must not punish, or slap, or threaten. Just accept the result, making clear the benefits of EU membership to the rest of the members, including suspending the benefits that the UK had.

Calmly, but clearly.

This will be good for everybody: UK will be happy being free (a feeling which will trump any disadvantage they may be getting by leaving the EU), and the EU can proceed with greater political integration.
Since for some reason the larger, older, higher-voted, more popular thread was marked as a dupe I'm copying my popular comment over here:

The BBC just announced that "Britain has voted to leave the European Union".

Leave only needs 2,105,984 more votes to win. [edit 12:15am EST] 1,715,256 votes now and closing fast. [edit 12:19am EST] 1,196,678 [edit 12:27am EST] 894,189 [edit 12:31am EST] 785,549 [edit 12:37am EST] 741,795 [edit 12:38am EST] 592,337 [edit 12:45am EST] 448,596 [edit 12:46am EST] 373,532 [edit 12:51am EST] 308,519 [edit 12:57am EST] 94,635 [edit 1:00am EST] 37,665 [edit 1:02am EST] 0. The UK has officially voted to leave.

Predicted result: Leave 52%, Remain 48%

Wow. So what happens now?

- Scotland voted 62% Remain. The SNP said it will call a second independence referendum if Leave wins. Many estimate that the independence movement will win this time around. Literally every single Scottish division voted to remain.

- Gibraltar will probably be royally screwed [0] as well as some other areas that are heavily dependent on trade/travel with EU countries

- The pound drops like a rock. Was stable at $1.48 all day, peaked at $1.50 earlier after Remain was doing well (~6pm EST), now at $1.33 (12:13am EST), now at $1.32 (12:21am EST) and the lowest level since 1985. In 1985 it hit $1.08, which was then the lowest value in a very long time.

- The pound is down 17% from the yen by the way.

- Other independence movements in other EU countries gain a bit of legitimacy. The euro drops (currently at $1.09, down four cents or 3%), and the yen gains (currently up 6%) (12:25am EST)

- For those of us fortunate enough to have our savings in dollars, everything denominated in pounds is currently on a 12% off sale.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11965342
Actually, the commission is multi-party, split between mostly EPP (Christian Democrats and the like), PES (in which Labor is a member), and, yes, one British Conservative Commissioner.

The UK has zero members in the EPP because the conservatives decided to go it alone; they still have votes, they've just decided to form their own parliamentary bloc, the AECR.
Scotland will leave the UK.

Northern Ireland will unify with the Republic.

FTSE 100 will open down 12-19%, which probably wipes out ISAs all over the place.

This is history in the making. Decided by something like 1 million people as of right now.

Just an absolute disaster.
Increased scaremongering to try and force countries to stay seriously risks having the opposite effect. Look at it like employee retention. Are you going to call everyone into a meeting and yell at them and tell them will be unemployable if they leave, or maybe a better strategy would be to offer some flex time and a couple extra vacation days.
I think this should be a wake up call for those of us who are American. Populist movements that rely heavily on anger, fear, and anti-immigration rhetoric can still be effective in western democracies even if a large majority of experts think it shouldn't and won't happen. This is the first time I have legitimately thought we might end up with a Trump presidency.
I wonder if the EU will now say that Scotland can get membership if we vote for independence? Obviously they couldn't do that while the UK was in the EU, but now that the UK wants to leave and Scotland doesn't that view might well change.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-3659...

NB On a personal note I am way more upset by this result than any other election or referendum I have voted in - even the first Scottish Independence Referendum.
A recent victim of an over leveraged and under regulated commodities exchange here in Yunnan who lost vast amounts of money decided to parade an alpaca about the city in protest, describing it with this same phrase.
The anger, the convenience of your link, and the fact I had some cash sitting with Paypal made it easy for me to donate to holding as well. I think there's a lesson in there.

Let's Encrypt is a noble good-for-everyone effort so it depressing that there those out there that will do it harm.
Battle of the Secure Messaging Apps: How Signal Beats WhatsApp
Presumably he means that it's a cost, therefore paid with pre-tax dollars.
I faced the same decision you did, had the same concern, and chose New College. I was fortunate in that CS at NCF has blossomed recently. A couple more professors were hired recently and there's increased student interest in the field. I've graduated, but I imagine there's also cross-pollination with the Data Science masters program that NCF founded this year.

As for what it's like to attend - the experience is less radical than you may think. People generally stick to taking listed courses. Creating your own course (tutorial) and finding a professor to sponsor it takes work. You can do it, I took several, but it's rare and the ease probably varies with your major.

With that said, even if you stick to taking courses, you'll still have to do an independent project each January and a thesis project before you graduate. Also, the experience of taking courses at NCF is different from the experience elsewhere. The size enables more discussion-based classes and the pass-fail/narrative evaluation grading changes student incentives and culture.
I don't think speech recognition is the problem, but rather natural language processing.

Google Now for instance can recognize me saying "Set a timer" or "Turn on WiFi" even while airplane mode is enabled, but start adding in context (such as "Who is Bob Marley?" "When was he born?") and it probably wouldn't work.
Being selfish here, wonder how this affects US.

Even though on the surface EU and UK are alies and trade partners, it is not all black and white. I believe US will benefit because they will be able to play UK against EU and vice-versa to gain somehow. Say if EU doesn't allow import of US chicken they can go and try to persuade UK to not allow some import from EU in exchange for some other favor and so on.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if this strengthens US's stock market in short to medium term, as everyone will flee to US stocks due to perceived volatility.
I'll save everyone the click.. It's advocating secondary sales. But most companies don't allow those anymore because it turns out it creates a messy cap table and accounting headaches.
Plenty cars are manufactured in the UK - what we seemed to be useless at was running car companies, not making cars!
The model was almost exactly spot on, while the bookies were still offering 6/4 on for remain at the time I originally posted. The betting market really was not adjusting to the changing data and was way off on the real odds - this is quite rare.

I certainly hope that the people who made money off Chris’ model follow his suggestion and donate to the Jo Cox fund.
Also consider BMW/Mercedes/VW-Audi as political influences in Germany - they are going to do anything they can to keep their products flowing, and prices down.
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One longer-term risk is that it will destabilize the whole EU. If the UK doesn't collapse, other countries will ask for the same deal, and the EU will just fall apart bit by bit.

To extend your argument, maybe that wouldn't actually change much in the grand scheme of things! But EU regulations have a pretty big impact, so I think the breakup of the EU would actually be a big deal.
That's because the speedup graph cuts away at a 100x speedup, but some of these (somewhat silly) benchmarks are compute-bound and hence gets these crazy 1000x speedups on the GPU.
The country that gave us the Magna Carta, literally the manuscript for limited-government liberty, has done it again, on (almost) its 800th anniversary! Super interesting days ahead.
That's what a democracy is all about, isn't it?

Isn't it insane how close the race between G.W. Bush and Al Gore was in 2000? Consider the consequences of that decision for a moment. And the voter turnout was only 51.2% in that election, not ~70%. Saying that in the end a small amount of voters make all the difference, that's true in so many cases...

At least regarding the Brexit-vote no one can complain that there wasn't a discussion about the issues, everyone spoke out, politicians, musicians, actors, companies, banks, ... and the people were bombarded with information and arguments for months. And the people have spoken.

(Others have pointed out that this is not legally binding, true, but it's certainly going to happen. There is no other viable way at this point)
The UK will also still carry a lot of influence over Europe through NATO.
This is the stupidest comment I've ever seen on HN. Really? Britain will beg to reverse this decision because they need German cars?
Apart from being wrong about how the EU is government, I think you might want to look into Churchills views on Europe.

Churchill argued for a European super-state. He was the architect of several of the early steps towards European integration, such as the Council of Europe and the European Convention on Human Rights, and he wanted a European army.

He's pretty much one of the fathers of the EU.
Scotland was also "always divided". EU countries are still so divided in practice (this vote being proof).

Look at Gibraltar. Channel tax havens. Nuclear submarines and oil platforms in Scotland. All these situations will now have to be renegotiated. Negotiations between states sometimes fail, and when they do, there's always that extension of diplomacy behind the corner: war.

There are endless fault lines all around us, which will be opened by renouncing the superior structures keeping them together.
I only buy cars from the Axis, and so should you.
I am @iconjack, poser of the question, ask me anything! Kidding aside, as an avid user of the whole stackexchange suite, it is kind of interesting to me how popular this question became. It was only my second question on graphics design and it's become the all-time 3rd ranked question. Keep it going, folks!

If you're curious, the reason I was looking at the logo svg was that I thinking about making a bumper sticker. When I saw the notches, I was perplexed, and threw the question up on a whim.

You noticed I put the disclaimer at the top about the question not being about politics. I honestly thought there was a chance things would get ugly because of the loose tie-in to the whole election grotesquery. One time I asked a question on english.stackexchange.com, Is "Sent from my iPhone" correctly punctuated and capitalized?" and I practically got hate mail. Not only did I get snarky comments and answers, I believe the question was down to −8 at one point. It's since been upvoted into positive territory and some of the nasty remarks have been deleted, but I never really got what all the hate was about. One friend suggested that Apple fans would think I was dissing the iPhone or something. That's the only theory I've got.
Show me a human institution that's not "better than nothing"; it'd be charitable to call the governing processes of the world's wealthiest and most stable countries "messy", on a good day.
>I'd wager there are more people who have snuck into top-tier universities than there are people who are there without paying/accruing massive debt.

Probably. The people who go without paying are pretty desirable from the university's point of view.

>This is also ignoring the fact that Ivies and other top-tier universities are overwhelming homogenous.

I'm not a worshiper of diversity for its own sake. The benefits seem pretty theoretical, and there's a lot of evidence to suggest homogeneous populations function better.

>More to the point, the thing everyone in a top-10 school has in common is that they're really good at looking good on paper.

Being able to do things well on paper is pretty important in 21st century US. It's also important to hire people who can figure out what your customers (internal and external) want and put it on paper in a way that will make the sale.

>It says near nothing about what they'll contribute on a team, how they'll function with other people, or base programming skill.

That's all true. The problem is we don't really have any way to get a good picture that kind of stuff outside of hiring everyone and culling the ones we don't want. Pretty much every applicant to an ivy league school lists a nonprofit on their application these days, and 99% of them are bullshit.

>My only point is that if a company seeks diversity, they should seek it in all avenues.

I suppose, if that's your goal. Were I running a company I'd be mostly focused on profitability.
I think what was interesting was that in regional charts, I saw Scotland strongly favor staying with EU. I found that interesting. It probably played as a factor when they chose to stay with UK, because as such they also stayed as part of EU. Now that UK is not part of the EU, Scotland might think again about its decision to stay.
Of course it raises the question of what happens down the road.

The problem with advocating extreme anti-immigration policies is you have to take great care to never actually succeed, since if you ever do and things go badly you're left without a nebulous external boogeyman to blame.
Because it was a tactical concession to solve an internal party political problem David Cameron had.

Oh well, at least he won't be best remembered for face-fucking a pig.
It's too early to even say that. No-one has ever left the EU before, there aren't even any rules drawn up. Absolutely possible that they could include the ability for independent regions to retain membership.
In my opinion, the chances of any sort of war at this point remain pretty low.

However, it's possible a Trump presidency and fractured EU might lead to a perfect storm for some kind of global conflict in a few years. I think still a low chance, but it does almost sound like the beginning chapter of a history book.
Brexit wins as Britain votes to leave European Union
Have you considered Estonia?
> Obama threatened the UK of no trade deal

They don't have one, and they assumed they would get one. Why? Obama just clarified: you do not have it, and will not get it. Why does the UK think they deserve a trade deal? Just because?

> Germany threatened of no trade agreement.

Same here

> France threatened to flood eurotunnel with migrants

France has a huge refugee camp in the border with the UK, which France is keeping out of the UK just because of the agreements that the UK has with the EU. Why should now France carry the cost of keeping those immigrants out of the UK? They obviously want to go to the UK, so let them.

Do you really think that the leaving the EU has no consequence? It is not punishment, it is just voluntarily deciding to renounce the benefits of a club.

When you resign your Tennis Club membership, do you complain that you are not allowed to use the showers, and to play in the courts? Those are automatic things, which come by leaving the club. You also spare the monthly rate!
Just want to point out the same is true of european cars. The entry-level Mercedes-Benz cars in the US market are miles better than those generally available in the European markets.
Funny how such decisions always assume Fear and never Englightment.
It's already possible to use config management tools to manipulate container images. E.g. Ansible 2.0 has a Docker connector.

I talked about it a bit here: http://go-talks.appspot.com/github.com/gigablah/talks/201509...

Judging from the horrified reactions of my audience though, I guess it's not a popular idea at the moment :p
Starting with Firefox 47, it works fine as well (macOS here), but you need to switch your user agent to Chrome (before you go to Netflix). I'm guessing Netflix hasn't updated their compatibility checker.
There has never been a drop out in the EU as of yet (not even the UK)
> GnuAPL is coming along nicely, and of course libre.

From what I have been able to determine, most APL performance comes from hand-tuned implementations of the primitives, and of specially recognised idioms[0], for which the interpreter generates specialised code. This seems to imply that building an efficient APL interpreter requires a significant amount of manpower to implement all these cases, rather than being able to get away with having a few simple good ideas. Are you aware of any GNU APL vs Dyalog performance comparisons?

[0]: http://aplwiki.com/FinnAplIdiomLibrary
Please don't do the flamewar thing here.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11966234 and marked it off-topic.
Not exactly what you are looking for but https://mycroft.ai/
It's not automated. They take the data and use it to help create a CG car, but the final work is done by human animators.

It might not fool "car guys" but a large number of car commercials shoot with CG cars now.
Well the fact that the "n+1 query problem" is a fatal mistake ORMs force you to worry about, whereas you never had to worry about it with plain SQL, is pretty damning in and of itself.
Please don't use all caps for emphasis: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.
It is just as bad as oligarchy if left unchecked. There is such a thing as a tyranny of the majority. Or if you want to just look at the politics, if you tick off the wealthy elite or make it too difficult to do business, you end up with less control over things that matter since you're either poor because all the business you ticked off went somewhere else, or basically a colony state as the important decisions are made elsewhere.

The only reason why it seems more "democratic" is because for most of human history, the wealthy elite had way to much power compared to everyone else.
80% of the cars made in exit-voting Sunderland are there for export to the EU. They will e subject to import barriers.

Do you imagine Nissan will be chanting "Rule Britannia" and eating that loss, or do you imagine they'll be moving the bulk of their manufacturing capacity to one of the Eastern European countries that already has a solid car making capability?
The financial center of Germany is Frankfurt, not Berlin.
I don't think thats the point being made. Just that this will probably make German cars more expensive, but Britain doesn't make any good cars of their own and so they don't have a ton of other options.