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Not in this particular case. Like others have pointed out, it is not in the best interest of EU to give UK a sweet deal and it is not that hard to understand why. UK has had a sweet deal with the EU full of exceptional treatments. It can veto anything it wants and frequently exercises its right to do so but does not contribute much to the common piggy bank. But now UK wants to leave altogether, will not contribute financially at all but will have an even better trade deal? What message does it send to those who are loyal members of EU? That they will be financially penalized for their loyalty? There is no way Britain gets a decent deal at all.

I read that about 5% of EU's trade is with UK. It's not insignificant but it's not the end of the world if it goes down to 0.5%. We will fuck UK over, good riddance, we will be stronger without UK, now we will finally pursue tighter integration without fear UK will sabotage such attempts.
Tarrifs are not the problem. Even without tarrifs there are additional costs involved, mainly because both sides can't trust the other sides' regulations.
Thinking of moving a static site to S3 + CloudFront + AWS Certificate Manager with the purpose of enabling HTTPS for the site. Seems like CloudFront does not support index document even if you've enabled it on S3 (https://tiffanybbrown.com/2016/01/aws-certificate-manager-s3...). You can't have URL such as https://example.com/about/. Instead need to specifically use URL https://example.com/about/index.html.

Will look into Netlify and Aerobatic next. Are there other PaaS/SaaS that makes it easy to host HTTPS static site generated from Jekyll/Hugo?
Some people downvote sarcasm for reasons like https://mindsarentmagic.org/2014/09/13/never-be-sarcastic/
I work at a competitor to The Mill so I have a little insight into this process. Ad agencies have grown accustomed to spending an enormous amount of money on VFX to make the cars in their spots look as perfect and attractive as possible (same with soda, people's faces, etc). They call this "beauty" work. For high end commercials this single line item can be over $30k (though I'm pretty sure The Mill charges more than I do). Most of the car commercials I do end up with full CG cars regardless of what they shoot because 1 they want the cars to look perfect, 2 they want to enhance the cars attractive qualities beyond all reality, 3 they want to be able to control every pixel, 4 they want to change elements of the car for different markets. That last one is probably a big reason The Mill would invest this kind of R&D in the project.

Doctorpangloss's point about product placement is no small thing either. As foreign markets become a bigger part of box office take being able to sell 5 different product placement deals in the same 20 shots is a big win.
You are correct, Smalltalk as-is can't currently do that. I believe he was referring to a future language / evolution / system that he would like to see, not something that currently exists. These are the sorts of things I think he's expressing his frustration about when he says things like Smalltalk getting long in the tooth etc. in that it was never intended to the be-all, end-all of languages... just one stop along a path.

But don't let this discourage you from looking into Squeak. I played around with Squeak in the 90's but couldn't see past things like the weird mouse button mappings and color scheme. Fortunately I came back to it again and found some of the glaring UI issues (by modern standards) had been smoothed over. It also probably didn't hurt that I was a little older and better able to stick with it until I could finally see better the second go at it what the original vision was. Also, there is the work from his STEPS project which used Squeak as a platform that was used to prototype some of the next-generation ideas he talks about.

If you want to understand better the next generation concepts, definitely look at the VPRI writings (esp. the STEPS annual reports) linked to in a previous post. To bridge the gap from here to there (i.e. to get to a tangible system that you can actually use that does any of this) I think you're probably going to want to learn Smalltalk as a starting point.
Ya I agree that that's a good thing. It just doesn't seem to me that you need such a powerful unelected institution overseeing it. Just make an agreement that people and goods can move freely.
I wonder, how many of these cars are assembled in Britain? And how much of the supply chain is inside Britain? Will it still be economical to import parts from the EU and assemble in Britain? Maybe the supply chain will be built inside Britain, maybe assembly will shift away from Britain. This is relevant for German as well as Japanese cars. And it's not only cars.

Whatever bilateral deals will be made post brexit, there will be a lot of shifting going on.
Of course the EU will continue to threaten the UK to "reconsider" its decision. But the fact remains that countries like Switzerland and Norway are much better off in economic terms by not having joined the EU in the first place.

Citizens of the UK have to ask themselves if they are going to allow the EU to threaten them into submission.

I am now 100% sure that the EU is done, this is it. Le Pen will win the next elections in France and then they'll leave too. Same goes for the Dutch.
> The UK has a ton of money

In case you didn't notice, the pound just went down the toilet. A ton of GBP is not worth all that much suddenly.

And as you say - the English need the foreign booze, so low tariffs are in their interest. The French don't want or need IPA or scrumpy, so they don't mind tariff barriers so much.
I can't say I'm afraid, I was told so in confidence by someone in HR at a major one. They'd already delayed salary reviews etc. over the last few weeks for this reason too.
They weren't there 30 years ago.
So Germany will risk 1\5 of German car workers because it wants to send a message?
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11966692 and marked it off-topic.
Transportation and smaller market will keep import prices from these oversease sources pretty high. EU only has to sell a little under (but more than what it's selling now, with the internal trade agreements) to keep it's upper hand.
Of course, EU would be ratarded to have some silly new agreements to throw the trade prices over the roof. But this is a situation which can be exploited in EU advantage and in no way in UK advantage.
Please keep flamewar boilerplate and lists of ideological talking points of HN.
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> "Requiring a supermajority is just privileging the side that prefers the status quo."

Rather, requiring a supermajority is to privilege the status quo, period. There are benefits to stability, no matter how it's constituted. These benefits are codified through mechanisms like supermajority votes.

A more rational referendum would have been a far more serious endeavor, perhaps one in which the population voted multiple times.

Big changes should, in general, not be easy to make.
Britain has very little manufacturing left. The financial industry on the other hand will be hard hit as power and influence moves to Frankfurt/Berlin.
I would still expect every single EU regulation to be in place tbh.

I've heard that all EU laws will remain in place unless explicitly removed
Whereas the old remember the "good old years before all those funny Polish shops started opening".

Well at least it'll hit their pensions. Oh, wait, no it won't because most of them will have final salary pensions schemes the working generation is paying for and could never hope to have themselves...

At least they can sell their houses which have increased in value by 100%s of percent over the last 30 years. So the older generation (& working class) have fucked us.
The European Commission does whatever it wants and the EU parliament is powerless. The EC is unelected and they have shown countless times that they don't give two hoots about the people. The whole thing is absolutely undemocratic.
'Most' but not by much margin. Which means, if you are looking to curb immigration, that there are two parallel but independent issues to resolve. The UK has in recent years tightened restrictions on many visas for non-EU nationals including those for foreign spouses (minimum income rules, capacity to speak english), post-study work and shortage occupation work (many occupations taken off the list as they were being filled by EU nationals).
The controlling political parties in rest of EU have huge interest of making Brexit costly to Britain even if it hurts their own country. If Brexit is successful and Britain improves then Euro-optimistic parties suffer future elections.
Britain is having to negotiate with lots of countries interests, each controlled by political parties with their own agendas and trying to win against other parties in their next elections. Getting rid of eastern European immigration was main reason of Brexit now Britain has to get approval of countries whose population they just slandered in elections.

Its unlikely to have ANY deal between EU and Britain, there are too many conflicting interests. So the end result is that all the EU deals just end and there is no replacement deal for them. Problem is when lots of countries want to leave their own mark on the deal and lot of people in the deal making process has vested interest in making bad deal for britain and Britain really cannot approve such deals.
44% of UK exports go to other EU countries. How many jobs are other EU countries generating in the UK?
IMO the problem with object-oriented programming is that it turned into the standard curriculum for peoples' first semester of computer science, rather than being yet another interesting concept that advanced programmers would ponder. And the way we handle "the standard CS curriculum" sucks. (In the USA at least.)

For example, AP Computer Science requires Java and tries to teach stuff like designing inheritance hierarchies to people in their first two months of programming education. And then tests it mostly using multiple-choice quizzes. It's totally inappropriate - most of these students would fail fizzbuzz.

OOP should be something you only get into after you have written some practical programs, rather than something where you can't program, but you memorize the difference between "is-a" and "has-a" inheritance so that you can pass multiple choice tests.
I'm highly educated and voting for trump.
With regards to trade tariffs, nobody expects the deal to be as good as the ones the UK had in the EU. However, in order for EU members to protect their own economies, you would expect some form of trade deal between the EU and the UK to be hammered out. The Eurozone isn't exactly in great health right now, even before Brexit, you'd expect politicians to want to perform some form of deal, even if it's only for the sake of damage limitation. The EU may want to make an example of the UK and drag these talks out, but I expect economics will win over political maneuvering in the end.
How do you avoid the problems of reformatting the output code? For example, I want long lines broken up in a consistent manner. Doing this correctly in a language like JavaScript is hard. Also, how can I configure the tool to follow a formatting style other than the default?
Not with the UK leaving, it'd be a great boost for the EU if Scotland were to join it. The argument doesn't extend to Spain, because it's not leaving the EU. Besides with the last referendum, Spain already said it wouldn't block Scotland entering the EU.
Japan already sell their cars pretty cheap over here.

Adding tarrifs essentially means Honda will get more customers at the expense of BMW.

Germany won't want that
There are no circumstances whatsoever that the EU will give the UK a trade deal like Norway / Switzerland / Iceland / etc. without the UK paying for the EU budget and allowing free movement of people, for example. All the things that the UK population voted against are exactly what prevents them from getting a trade deal. Something will have to give.

If you want to go with the rationalist perspective you seem to be advocating, then the UK government will have to be anti-democratic and strike a deal explicitly against their citizen's declared interests.

(This vote is particularly vexing for me since I'm Irish (voted stay) and now will have to sell my house in order to leave. Quite upsetting, overall.)
"I'm pretty sure that in years after WW1 people were saying that odds of having another war in just 2 decades are extremely slim. "

Well -- there was the whole "politicians lost the war" thing and general bitterness about the Rhineland.
> Is now a good time to invest in British currency? Are there some good resources for how to do that?

I can't imagine that it would be a good idea for you to invest in anything when you have to rely on the judgment of internet strangers if it's a "good time" to do so.

If you disagree, I have a really fine bridge to sell you in London.
It's mostly not, that's the point. The difference is in the mental model.
Because there is the other risk of losing more member states when they see that there aren't serious consequences to leaving.
Any application to the EU can be vetoed by any member state. In the case of Gibraltar, given it is seen as tax heaven and it is a well-known smuggling hotspot, I really doubt Spain will accept it as an EU member. IMHO, Gibraltar is going to really suffer from Brexit.
Does any of the three of you above care to share your sources? That would help
Tariffs aren't the only factor in the assumed business losses, and they're probably not the biggest.

It's the loss of things like financial services companies based in London being able to readily "passport" their services into other EU countries without relying on local branch offices somewhere in the EU that will really hurt.

When it comes to passporting rights, it's very much in the interests of the EU to tell the UK to bugger off, and let the London HQs relocate a whole bunch of jobs to Frankfurt or Paris or Tallinn if they want to carry on doing business with EU nationals. This is likely bad if you work in some London-based back office role for a big European bank; really bad if you're a London-based fintech startup aiming to serve most European markets.
An EU exit of more states would cost more.
Or why the fudge I got -5 votes for pointing out that they failed to remove the word "slave"?

As pointed out by OP, Mozilla gave thousands and thousands of dollars to a release engineering project `remove the term “slave” from all documentation` [1]

[1] https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2015/12/10/mozilla-open-source...
100% correct.
>"mainstream politician talk so vividly against immigration and against "multinationals" in 2016 "

There is nothing inherently "good" about those concepts, so I don't see how you can claim it bad that a politician is against them.

Is treating people fairly a good that we should all aspire to? Yes (I would say)? Then respect a peoples' wish to stay sovereign and keep people they don't want from entering their country. It's not all that different from private property, just on a much larger scale.
No matter how bad Greece is now, can you say with certainty that it would be better if it wasn't in the EU or Euro?

I personally doubt it. It is still much better than its neighbors.
That's not the point. The point is there isn't any conflict.

Low tarrifs = good for both. it would be politically difficult to go against that.
Silex for PHP, Flask for python and Sails for JS.
The fact that I do not like it does not change my opinion.
The executive branch has to be approved by the EU parliament, so technically we do. Just not directly.
The math isn't what I'm questioning. The math doesn't tell you about the quality of your prior, just how to factor it in. But if your prior is crud, then you end up making worse decisions as a result. By using the prior admissions test scores you are assuming that those factors are relevant to a population that has graduated and passed your own screening. This is not an "uninformed prior", you are explicitly modelling the belief of the relevance of entrance scores. Modelling no belief would be a uniform prior, that is no bias in the population.
Britsh Turkeys just voted for Christmas.
V sad day I am utterly depressed, sets back civilisation's progress by a generation.
One lesson from this is - Never underestimate the stupidity of the majority.
US will be next and vote Trump in.
Didn't Cameron say that the referendum was for leaving both EU and EEA?
4/5 years ago isn't that recent in advertising terms...
As others mentioned in the thread, to curb nationalistic anti-EU movements from the other countries.
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I think the next Scottish referendum will be a much harder decision for each voter personally. The previous one obvious wasn't a throw-away decision either but Scotland and England being separate EU member states would have meant little difference in daily live for most people.

Now the next referendum will be a lot more significant since it'll effectively be a UK vs EU decision. Either you follow the English into isolation or you suddenly have a very real border between England and Scotland with customs&immigrations checkpoints and similar things.
What's most interesting about this thread to me is that before the vote the general consensus was "nobody knows what's better anymore anyway, hence also the close call". Now that the decision has been made to leave, most agree it was a big mistake and predict all sorts of bad consequences. What changed?
Thanks Paul, but I'm looking into "doing" clinical trials and not "participating" like in your case.

I think I asked the wrong question.
You've missed the point, which was about the UK being at the mercy of other countries' interests. My argument was simply that that is always a factor as long as we don't have one world government (and maybe even then - read all the comments about Scotland for a small picture of that.)

There was no comparison of Hitler and Merkel implied. Britain and Germany are both far bigger than any of their past or present leaders.
I have no doubt things will keep chugging along, but the time and energy wasted through customs for the commuter working in Spain would be a major pain.
I think it's bizarre that a wakeup call is needed. From the moment I saw Trump talk the first time, I thought "wow, he's going to blast things to bits". A lot of folks think the USG doesn't accomplish things, that politicians are full of nonsense, that the media/news is junk. Simply that Trump is an outsider that's basically an independent should be enough for people to see he's going to win big.

The fact that enough people think this way (I've had people say your comment to me in person, but not nearly as nicely) just shows how far out of touch things are. Instead of just yelling bigot/racist/etc., I think Trump's opposition needs to actually listen and see what people are really seeing in him. Otherwise they're in for a big surprise. (FWIW I'd never have considered a US right or nominally conservative before.)
the thought of the vast majority of EU countries approving EU membership for an independent Scotland and Spain vetoing it because of implications for its internal politics is an interesting one I hadn't thought of...
Here's my understanding of the general idea (let me know if I got something wrong!). Say you have a bunch of computers with different software and hardware. You come up with a cool new image format called "PJEG". To get the images to show up on all the computers, you typically do the following:

* Publish a PJEG spec
* Define a .pjeg extension and let everyone know that means it's
a PJEG file
* Write a PJEG encoder/viewer for each kind of computer
* Distribute these programs to the computers
* Configure the computers to open .pjeg files using the programs
you distributed
* Modify other programs (image editors, web browsers) so they
can recognize, encode and view PJEG files as well
* etc...

This approach doesn't scale very well. I think the alternative Alan is suggesting is that you'd include an interpretable description of the file format in the file itself in a sort of meta-format. Once you have an interpreter for these meta-format descriptions, all you'd have to do is:

* Include an interpretable PJEG encoder/viewer with every PJEG file

And that's all! Any program able to read the meta-format could use this file without any extra software. This obviates file type metadata and reduces the amount of distribution you need to do, making the whole thing way more scalable. The practical problems with this solution (larger file size, slow encoding and decoding) can be solved in various ways:

* The larger file size can be mitigated by format negotiation
(if I already know about the format, you don't have to tell
me about it)
* Optimized encoders and decoders can be written to replace the
slower interpreted ones included with the file

Having the interpreted format description makes it easier to validate the optimized version, too (you can generate a bunch of random examples and make sure they decode/encode the same way). And this doesn't have to just be for files, you can use the same technique for arbitrary "data types" in your program as well.
You're talking cars.

The EU is talking survival. The UK will get indeed a bad deal. And the rest of the EU will stick together even closer. I hear "fiscal harmonization", e.g. common taxation is the new big thing.
The EC president is proposed by the Council (made by governments elected by EU citizens), each member of the EC is nominated by the government of a member state and then the entire EC is approved by the Parliament (elected by the EU citizens). The parliament can also vote the entire EC out of their job with a vote of no-confidence.

How is that undemocratic?
It is bad because it never ends up being the case that the populist leader just does what the people want. The populist leader is always an opportunist. I cite pretty much ever single case in history as backup of my claim.
EU is only good for export-oriented countries; Imagine CHINDIA as a EU member :)
The fear of the other is a very powerful button to press, as history has unfortunately documented time and again.
I have to admit I still have basically no idea what he's talking about when he says 'messaging'. A practical example would be useful for us non-CS-degree programmers who don't speak any of the CS lingo.
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...and by the same logic, any mortgage is suddenly 10% smaller? Sounds like a good deal to the average citizen.
Keep in mind, if Scotland leaves the UK in favour of the EU, England is in deep shit regarding natural resources. REmember why those English mine towns were closed? Not much money to be made there.
> now we will finally pursue tighter integration without fear UK will sabotage such attempts

Or other debtor countries in the EU will see this as a chance to possibly get out of the union and "start over" as it were.
Thanks for the history lesson.
You can't avoid losses because you can't let goods cross borders without oversight.

The EU has vital interests in controlling the consumer goods available in its market. If we don't have a say in, for example, how they control their food production, we can't just take their word on it.

If you now think, let's just assume the British government does its job correctly in that regard, and we'll be fine, you're wrong. Companies often know which of their products are going to end up in exports, so they know where they don't need to follow the rules.
I feel like within the EU there is a certain feel of solidarity and if any EU country was attacked all other EU countries would defend it even without a military agreement. At the same time I feel that people generally have no sentiment to other Nato countries, if Ukraine was part of nato half of Europe would be asking why the hell they are paying to defend it.