skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Complete and utter madness. I think it's time for Australia to become a Republic, I'm not sure why we'd want to stick with the U.K. at this point.
Swede and EU citizen.

Saddened by this, but the people's voice shall rule.

What I would like to see is a more Swiss-style democratic involvement in EU. It is not for no reason many Europeans feel detached from what the EU does.
Yet another example that immigration policy trumps pretty well all other concerns. This has played out several times in Australia. 5% of the population suddenly voted for a nationalist candidate Pauline Hanson who came from nowhere, had no policies, no credibility and no clue just because she was against immigration. Major political parties took note that day, and since then they have in various roundabout ways adopted a similar stance on immigration, knowing that it is electoral suicide to entertain reform.

It was sobering to see Brexit campaigners citing Australia's immigration policy as a 'good system'. In reality it is the opposite of courageous and humane government. But clearly, it's what people want...
Unfamiliar with UK laws, when is the next time that Scotland can vote for independence? Were they likely to do so again before this vote?
What's special about that date?

If you want to understand where modern university come from a look at the Prussian education reforms after their defeat by Napoleon is instructive.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_reforms#Education
As other comments have noted, the point is that the EU will not want to give the UK a good deal on leaving, because the EU does not want to give any encouragement to the other countries which want to leave the EU (some of which want to leave more strongly than the UK do - apparently).

Secondly, why would the UK end up with a Norway or Switzerland deal, when the UK is the 5th largest economy in the world? This is unprecedented. This isn't some one sided negotiation.

The EU needs the UK. If you sift through the garbage press, you'll see that the BDI in Germany - "The Voice of German Industry" - says that trade curbs against the UK would be "foolish". Of course they would be! Do you know how many German cars are sold in the UK each year?

"About a fifth of all cars produced in Germany last year, or around 820,000 vehicles, were exported to the UK, making it the single biggest destination by volume." Source: FT.com

"The UK is the fourth-biggest export market for German engineering companies, with sales of €6.8bn last year." Source: FT.com

The scaremongering goes on even after the vote has been called...
> Suppose a hundred million members around the world are in favour of death for leaving the group

I'm not sure hypotheticals help here; it's hard to address issues that lack the dimensions of reality.

> Is that enough for western countries to say hey, that's not acceptable? To note that there may be a serious incompatibilities in beliefs?

In another post you said you didn't mean to troll, but I'll say that this question seems like one.

Again, I'm not sure what this question would mean in reality. Each individual has their own beliefs; democracies outlaw certain behavior; I don't see what their religion has to do with it. A person either follows the law or not, regardless of their religion. We can't imprison or punish people based on some prediction of future behavior, and that prediction based purely on religion would be absurd. Maybe we should imprison all poor people, who commit crimes at a higher rate, or all men under the age of 30 - imagine how much lower the crime rate would be then! Also, all politicians.
Oh wow, hard numbers, thanks! That's very impressive, but strangely misleading in the graph towards the bottom that appears to clock TAIL->Futhark->OpenCL and Futhark->OpenCL exactly the same in more than half the cases (if you look at the raw numbers if appears that the second approach blows the first away in most).
Selfrando: Q and a with Georg Koppen
I don't think the EU was stable to begin with. See the refugee problems, Greece financial situation, North vs. South gap, different economies... It's better we end the relationships on good terms like this than be dragged into a US Civil War scenario.
I bagsie the Polish kielbasa
I don't get how Apple Maps decides to show locations in other continents when it is unable to find a a match locally.

And Apple's inability to do any sort of decent fuzzy matching is legion.
the EU should focus on actually making the EU work well.

even the remain arguments seem to be, yeah sure it's not great but it's still better than nothing.

what a ringing endorsement.
Hey, I'm the author of the post (just found out someone linked it here). I've fixed the link to radare2.org now.. Can't believe I hadn't noticed that to be honest.

When I get home from work tonight I will add a short intro to r2, cheers for the feedback.
Yep, it was a long time ago now :)

Dark Forces is one I haven't thought of in awhile - such a great story-based FPS.

I probably didn't make it as clear as I meant to - I wasn't so much referring to "when story-based first-person games started being made" as much as I was meaning to refer to "that point in time when people started criticizing games like Quake for not having a story".
Thank you for your response.

You explain why I don't want to accuse any individuals of guilt. Just that it seems that overall, as a group, there seem to be unacceptable beliefs held.

When I meet Catholics, sometimes I do quiz them on the huge amount of damage the Catholic Church has done to people by fighting birth control (and a good chunk of my family is Catholic). I've been tangentially involved with a medical clinic in Guatemala for years, and have seen how damaging this is to people, firsthand. (And I hear STDs in other countries have done even more damage.)

If a country was designing a health system and was facing a bunch of Catholics trying to join the decision board, they'd be perfectly justified in saying "hey, the Catholic church has some harmful views on this health issue; we're not saying you do, but we'd like to make sure we're on the same page before you come onboard". Is this unreasonable?
Nokia & RIM dismissed touchscreens not smartphones, geeze.
>... whether Apple Maps or Google Maps is better depends on where you are and what data you're trying to find.

I've given Apple Maps several chances to delight me since 2012 and have submitted multiple bug reports and feature requests. While the product has improved significantly, it needs a few years of development to match the current offerings from Google. The inaccuracies in the search results for local businesses/parks/points of interest is unacceptable and should be a priority for the Maps team if Apple has any intention of feeding data into a device that will take humans from point A -⇒ B -⇒ C. Also, not being able to create waypoints/multi-leg routes is simply unacceptable in 2016. For most Apple Maps users, I suspect it takes only one shitty search result page for them to give up and use Google Maps.

There are some deep, systemic issues that Apple needs to address:

1) The accuracy and freshness of their data

2) The ability to return fast, intelligent search results from their data

3) Siri's ability to understand user intention when being asked for location data and directions

I'm rooting for Apple, I really am - It just seems that they are having a rough time catching the tailwinds of Google.
I am so sorry to hear that you feel sick about refugees (among others). Maybe it's better that you leave the EU after all.
It's surprising that the referendum will pass with a simple majority, though. This seems like a 2/3 or 3/4 kind of decision to me.
If the EU behaves in that way, given its current state, it will break apart all the more quickly: you need an army to be able to bully your client states into submission.
This is the most shocking thing to me. It's almost non-negliible. It makes me feel slightly better about living in a republic like the US as opposed to a direct democracy.
Nobody said leaving the 4th reich was going to be easy...

edit: holy downvotes batman! Can anyone seriously argue the EU isn't another German empire?
But what percentage of the GDP?
There's not much "common wealth" in the Commonwealth though. I think the main extent of our cooperation is hosting the Commonwealth Games every few years.

I wonder if the UK will start buying NZ dairy products again. UK joining the EEC (they went from taking 75% of NZ cheese exports to <10%) and the oil shock in 1973 basically tanked the NZ economy.
That's what it sounds like. I mean, if you raised the issue of different rules for shops, vegan ideas, of anything else, then we could think you have issues with actual politics. But you only mentioned the Polish and sausage components. And I since you didn't mention British butcher shops... (same with Russian prostitutes)
I'm the author of the post, I'll look at adding a short into to r2 when I get home from work tonight. Thanks for the feedback :). I (wrongly) assumed that anyone reading the article would be aware of r2.
If the UK leaves, Gibraltar, or Scotland for that matter, can't stay. They would have to apply again for EU membership. It's a big mess for everyone.
I've seen actual self-driving cars on actual roads. But they are haven't hit the market yet.

What do you mean by convert? Are you unsure whether they will happen? Skeptical about whether they will improve on humans, or whether it's a good idea in the first place?
The scaremongering has just begun. A successful UK exit is going to be powerful ammunition for any nationalist politician in any EU country.
> What is success?

How about measuring by success by the preferences of the people in the country? Apparently a majority of UK voters preferred leaving.
That's not the point. I completely agree with you. The point is that the HN article title is wrong and deceptive, and most HN posters have been misled into thinking the count has finished. Am I the only person on HN who bothered to read the actual article and cares about the facts? It's a bit ironic, don't you think, considering the politics and lack of facts behind this vote?
Because the consequences can only be determined by a long and drawn out negotiation process.

Like getting a divorce and then work out custody and share of assets after.
Well I live in the EU and I can't remember ever voting in favor of punitive expeditions against nations that decide to drop out.

If the EU really wants to go that way, it will only make more people wonder whether they want to be part of a transnational bully.
That's a historical curiosity due to how the relevant sports developed.

Football, rugby and cricket were all formalized in the UK, so the initial arrangements reflected a vision of Scotland, England etc being "countries". The first international football match, for example, was Scotland-England.

As the game expanded, other countries started their own international federations, which UK clubs eventually joined. As part of the joining, British representatives obtained clauses that safeguard their role as "custodians" of the game, which basically mean you cannot change the rules of football without UK representatives agreeing.

Part of those clauses imply and require that UK countries will remain separate; so you have a Scottish authority, an English authority and so on, with separate leagues and separate national teams.

The two elements (representation in rule committees and in tournaments) rely on each other; renouncing one would basically mean renouncing the other. Of course, you're never going to renounce you ability to make the rules, so here we are.

In the Olympics, for example, it's different, because that institution was actually born in France and reflected a different vision from the start; which is why Britain traditionally does not compete in Olympic football.
Possibly, but I imagine they will wait and see what the border agreements arranged over the next two years look like first.
Yeah, and we mustn't forget all those folk from miami who will now go on holidays to england. It's going to be chaos!
I don't think they threatened, they warned, they chose their words wisely and it's not just a problem for the UK, but also for Europe. It's normal that when you leave a single market of that size, basically abandon established trade agreements with such an important partner, that the consequences are severe.

That being said it's not so much about "unfair consequences" or "punishment" directly, it's more about "not giving special treatment", ... "out means out", interesting times ahead.
Only by supposed proxy. Directly, they are voting to leave the EU.
> the subsidies feed mostly the politicians, and the hands of their well-connected friends who are the true benefactors.

You'll need to provide some data. It sounds like what any anti-EU propagandist would first think of asserting.

And what about the businesses with access to the world's largest market?
Nitpick: it's spelled Poisson distribution. We are probably looking at a Poisson process, actually.
They already have low paid customer service and ops in Ireland. They won't get engineers to move to there. Like finance guys and the promise of tax free living in Dubai - at the end of the day they don't twant o be in a backwater.
Of course, a lot of that land mass is in virtually uninhabitable parts of Canada and Australia.
This is a false dichotomy I hear often.

There can still be social safety nets for citizens without the need to support free movers.
But you assume that people in the UK have an alternative to those German cars. They don't. Germany makes better cars than anyone else. Brits will still buy them, they will just now be more expensive.

Two words: British Leyland
>If I were France I would start bricking up the chunnel tomorrow.

Why? Out of pique? Out of being disrespected? Out of a general tit for tat?

I don't agree with the UK voters today (from my safe spot of not being a UK voter) but it seems pretty silly for the EU or countries within the EU to treat this vote--assuming it goes ahead--as a petulant child would, damn the consequences. They should and probably will make a rational response based on their own interests whether or not they're "annoyed" or whatever the word is with the UK.
Nice xenophobia dude.
25% chance of leaving is not the same as "they are definitely going to stay". I don't see how you can call a percentage based prediction "quite wrong" if it doesn't end up happening.
If this cycle is about that, why would Trump have gotten the nomination? Jeb/Rubio were the golden boys of the GOP, and they got blown up by Trumps appeal.

Yes, the Dems couldn't pull it off with Sanders, but it appears the republicans actually picked, perhaps not an anti-establishment candidate, but at least a non-establishment candidate.
Britain is not the first country to be led into darkness by fear.
They worked "preventing wars through collective security and disarmament and settling international disputes through negotiation and arbitration" which do not work look at UN and how many wars we still have. Democratic governments, rule of law and the most important: same values and connected markets and economies, euro zone - this is what prevented wars not some League of Nations with their dead agreements. Cold War ended what is keeping them busy from war now ?
I had to chuckle at the end. One way to compete for the stupidest and most naive employees is to offer really drawn-out vesting periods, where if you leave before the IPO, you get nothing! Considering that the average length of a job in sillicon valley is about 2 years, that would effectively put an end to anyone with any talent or brains working for a startup.
Not only manufacturing. It will become effectively cheaper to hire people in the UK from outside.
We had a (too) strong Swiss franc for years now, and it's been a bane for businesses/economy.
I predict the UK flag will change in 10 years or less. Scotland will hold a referendum to leave the UK for the EU.
I'll take my position as a "leave". In my opinion recent years has shown that power centralization brings a lot of harm. Even among our own government, I'll predict we'll find more value on powerful local and state governments.
Because emotions aren't an objective measure of quality of life? Yeah! Success! We're out of the EU! Will they still be thrilled when trade dwindles and their social safety nets are cut?

You can educate someone. You can't fix willful ignorance.

> Gotta hand it to stupid people. They may not understand nuance, secondary effects, or the long term, but dammit, they know how to vote.

https://twitter.com/rolldiggity/status/746195269390196736
The EU is nothing like the Soviet Union. That is itself propaganda, and undermines everything else you write.

The fact that a majority of a country believes populist propaganda is, unfortunately, not evidence of anything but the power of populist propaganda.

It seems to me the Czech Republic has become far wealthier in the EU, in large part because of access to EU markets and due to the stability of EU institutions.
U.S. market futures are taking a nice dump.
It definitely is dangerous, but the video seems to be running at 2x, perhaps to make it seem more dangerous than it is actually. The pedestrians walking around are a give away.
Take the US federal government, take away 2/3 of Congress's powers, give all of those powers to the civil service, and then replace the President with a committee appointed by state governments on a staggered basis. That's the EU.

Congratulations Britain, today you took back control of your own destiny.
They aren't an "angry mob". They are people voting for what they feel to be their best interest. I find it interesting that you believe people voting to be an "angry mob" because 1) they don't listen to the political establishment on who they should vote for, and 2) they don't listen to the academic establishment on who they should vote for.
make money with almost no risk

I still think p=1.0 was not possibly achievable via any model at that point in the counting, which means betting based on it would have been an enormous risk. The fact that the bet would have paid off makes no difference; especially given how close the vote seems to have gone, a coin flip would have gotten it right half the time, and I doubt you'd say that a coin flipper who just declares 100% confidence has a good model.
Apple has a knack for choosing the right interface for the task at hand (digital crown, multitouch, iPod wheel, mouse, etc). Are there any examples of Alphabet succesfully coming up with an original interface to solve a real problem other than google.com?
They also paid tariffs, and micro-regulated what, how, when, and in what quantities could be imported / exported.

Brexit will change that.
Yes. They would have to let all EU citizens live and work(!) in their country.

Including Poles, Romanians, all those people the far right despises.

They wouldn't have to let war refugees and asylum seekers in, though.
Not to mention the UK is ruled by a hereditory monarchy with an unelected upper house of parliament.
I heard a quote the other day along the lines of "not all those that are voting leave are racists, but all racists are voting leave". Subjectively speaking, I've largely found this to be true.
> virtual indebtedness

It wasn't just virtual.

"The Anglo-American Loan Agreement was a post World War II loan made to the United Kingdom by the United States on 15 July 1946, and paid off in 2006. The loan was negotiated by John Maynard Keynes. The loan was for $3.75 billion (US$57 billion in 2015) at a low 2% interest rate; Canada loaned an additional US$1.19 billion"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-American_loan
>> .. a rational response based on their own interests.

The EU was specifically meant to prevent countries taking actions in their own interest, to stop them from putting their own interests above those of other countries. Now that is done and France can act in France's interests, which probably aren't exactly the same as Britain's. They are now free to make the rational decision to, for example, place tariffs on British goods so as to protect French manufacturers.
> Why? Out of pique? Out of being disrespected? Out of a general tit for tat?

When negotiating, you never let a position of power go to waste.
the party in power in the parliament and the commission is the EPP, the UK is the only member state that has zero MEPs in the EPP.

so the statement is accurate
Sorry that I have to say this, but that's very simplistic.

If two parties agree on any contract or trade agreement, the parties are not always of equal weight and do have their own interests at heart. The UK needs the EU more than the other way around, so the EU has more pull and will make use of it. So "bully your client states into submission" is not a fair description to use, to put it politely. You could say that about any deal where one party has an advantage.
so uh, slightly random question, if i import things from great britain to the EU, do I have to pay import taxes now, or is there a "grace period"?
That's not how pricing works. Higher pricing for German cars will lower sales substantially in favor of cheaper cars. Even if someone still buys a German car, they will probably choose less expensive options. There's no way that the continent starts a trade war with the UK.

Neither Hillary nor Trump agree with Obama's "back of the queue" comment. So no matter who wins in November in the US, they will almost certainly be very eager to make a good trade deal with the UK. Australia and New Zealand will too. Hopefully, this will result in a reinvigorated Anglosphere.
I wonder if referendums should have a higher bar than 50% against the status quo. Referendums are reserved for big changes (generally) or constitutional changes, and the population can be extremely fickle. A 50% target might go one way or another depending on the week or month you call it - and probably doesn't represent a true majority, especially in a state where voting is optional. The ramifications can be very large and shouldn't be expected to change again for a very long time.

If a higher percentage was thought to be a good idea, what would that percentage be? 60/40? 55/65? 70/30? I'm not advocating for this by the way, just figure it might be an interesting thought experiment.
At least the Australian dollar isn't taking as much of a beating; it's only down to $0.73 from $0.77 - only 5% loss.
I think Japan would disagree.
Yes, exactly.

I watched the Grapes of Wrath (1940) a few years ago. The amount of pro-communist idealization in the film would never, ever be allowed to play in a main-stream theater in the US today.

I think most younger people don't realize that communism was a huge threat to the US Capitalist system pre-Soviet-breakup, and because of that, a very large propaganda campaign was waged until the 90's. The remnants we see today are why an effective attack on Bernie Sanders was to associate him with socialism / communism.

Obviously, young people didn't fall for the tactic. Older folks who had been taught to fear and hate communism for much of their earlier lives, on the other hand, were influenced heavily by the attack.
This is also a very astute comment I think. The EU and those with interests that are similar will need to increase scaremongering even more to try and prevent other countries from leaving the EU. I wonder what will happen at Greece's next bailout/imposed conditions breaking point...
It is not legally binding, so nothing. But who would take responsibility of organizing that, disregarding the opinion of the majority of the British people? And what do you suggest, having a non-binding referendum until Remain wins?

Out is out.
Color me shocked. I would've though it was the DNC colluding with her campaign.