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They would start printing their own currency. Impossible to keep having the same currency at the same exchange rate if you leave. It's going to end up like Argentina when they wanted to keep a fixed rate with the USD. To be seen who's going to be Argentina and who the USA in that case.

By the way, this is the very problem with the Euro. If you want to have the same currency of (let's say) Germany, you should perform like Germany, or better. If you are less efficient, in any way, you're going the way of Argentina, even if not as quickly. This is why the EU should have one real central government, maybe USA style, and local governments should be like the governments of the US states.
In my opinion, the chances of any sort of war at this point remain pretty low.

You're right, there's little chance of a war between any of the EU (or soon to be former EU) countries. And, more importantly, there's no foreseeable reason for there to be a war.

But, not to put too fine a point on it, there also can't be a war for one other reason: Nobody but Putin has much in the way of armed forces. Things could get really ugly if Putin decided to, e.g. invade the Baltics.

I did some quick checking. Here's an example: Germany's current unified armed forces, the Bundeswehr, have 178,000 active soldiers.[1] In WW II, Germany's army (just the army) had 12,000,000 active soldiers in 1944.[2]

For today's EU, war would be more of a dalliance than serious business. And that's a good thing.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundeswehr
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Army_(Wehrmacht)
I have yet to see any data that the Brexit is a net positive for the economical wellbeing of the British people. That is not what I'd define as "Enlightened".
The public opinion that will be the most hostile to the next Greek bailout is the German opinion (French and Italians support it because they think sooner or later it will be their turn). I don't think the Germans are hostile to the EU yet. But if that happens it is the end of the EU.
>However, it's possible a Trump presidency and fractured EU might lead to a perfect storm for some kind of global conflict in a few years.

Despite the Brexit and its aftershocks I don't think the next non-Middle East related conflict will originate in Europe. But a Trump presidency coupled with some sort of "mishap" between the US and China in the South China Sea, that's the stuff of nightmares.
I cross-registered for a class at Olin (featured in the article) which turned out to one of the top 3 classes I took in college. We inherited the designs for a portable vegetable grater from 6 previous semesters of work, and iterated further upon its design. We then produced 4 prototype graters and went to Ghana to sell them to rural Cassava farming women who generally have to grate the cassava by hand or use dirty, broken communal graters. We worked closely with the local university and metal shop.

By the end of the semester we were ready to hand off plans to get a batch of 10 graters produced on the next trip, and with further plans to get a pilot of 50 produced in Ghana in tandem with Ghanaian engineers and metalsmiths, and had plans to set up an unorthodox supply and distribution chain once the successive groups had secured grant funding.

I wouldn't discount the value imparted by a class that throws you into a project with smart people with strong personalities and tells you to figure things out in 3 months before putting your product in front of paying customers. Also, this type of "hands-on" class is generally a capstone that comes after the basic engineering classes that all of the Olin students take freshman and sophomore year.

Our professor was a brilliant guy and could have easily just focused on research and churned out great results, but he found it much more fulfilling to be hands on with our project and to guide us through the actual gritty process of creating a product and a business.
Google and Facebook may well be headquartered there, but I suspect it's more for tax reasons than the Guinness.
> This isn't some one sided negotiation.

This is pretty reckless risk management on Britain's part: to place so much weight on a question of just how a future, unclear negotiation, subject to who knows what bureaucracy and other countries' own interests, will turn out. It's very vague to just say "well we're trading a lot, so surely we're very important" without any supporting evidence or precedent: it makes all sorts of unjustified assumptions.
"The EU needs the UK"

Not true. It is the reverse because the UK runs a gigantic trade deficit: in 2014 they exported 472 billion USD, but imported 663 billion USD¹. In fact the UK is the second country in the world with the largest trade deficit (behind the US). A huge portions of UK's export go to Europe, therefore the EU has definitely more say when it comes to negotiating trade deals with the UK. I would be very worried for my economic future if I were a UK citizen...

¹ http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/gbr/
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How much of that is just money markets running scared and doing stupid things. The value in 2-3 months time will be much more instructive than the night of the vote.
ah, thank you, that's what I was trying to say but couldn't quite figure out how to say
Good luck doing this in practice. What looks good on paper and what works in reality is not always the same. And making elections more complicated might not be the best way to go.
Tell that to Greece, Portugal and Spain.

Truth is, the EU is not a perfect solution. Even if Europe were to become a "single nation" (like the United States) that wouldn't mean all parts of the Union would have the same economic development. Just look at the stark differences between places like New York, Massachusetts or California vs. Missouri and Luisiana.

Prima facie it's impossible to predict if the UK will be as severely affected as the Remain camp wants to paint it. Time will tell. If anything, I'm curious about all this (if painfully aware that it might affect the life of millions of people for the worst.)
Yeah but UK has voted to leave. If they voted remain then certainly we can say that.

The non-voters don't care, so they are happy either way.
The UK itself may fracture - Scotland and/or Northern Ireland may peel off for the EU - putting NATO at risk.
> This is really the beginning of a very long, tedious and ultimately unsatisfying couple of years of dissatisfaction and instability as we negotiate with the EU and the rest of the world.

There is at least one positive point regardless of how you voted.

The referendum gets people talking about the issue and makes them more aware of the pros and cons. Over time they will find out if that was a good or bad move for the success of the UK.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11964582
Jeah, but with the EU Nike for example would have built there robot fabric in the UK. Now it will be somewhere in EU.

The UK just lost the biggest future lights out fabrics.

What does the UK plan to do?
Are you trying to imply things won't change? Then why have EU membership at all?

It will, of course, be a compromise, but one that likely results in the UK being much worse off.
Followup idea: a trusted neutral 3rd party that ranks CAs by various factors, such as controversiality. Quotes Wikipedia and other (arguably) objective sources [of fact] and welcomes debate about potential bias.

Perhaps this group could publish reports periodically so that they can then be picked up and bundled into browsers - that way you're not constantly sending [trackable] cert requests to a 3rd party, and you already have the cert info so there's no query server to DDoS.

Maybe Firefox could incorporate it into the TLS info popup and possibly the HTTPS icon... Chrome never would; this idea goes way too close to the advertising industry.

An extension would be nice, but something like this would never go viral so would never get adoption. Native browser integration would be a must.

Also, mozilla.org's cert is by DigiCert. What's their track record?
> It can be devalued

I've lived in a country with high double-digit inflation through the 1990s (in one year it even surpassed 100%), I'd say be careful what you wish for. People seem to forget that paper money is just that, paper, and is based mostly on trust. Once trust evaporates (even if temporarily) shit's gonna definitely go wrong. But, hey, at least the decision is yours! You've got freedom!
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And none of those -- even if you assume every representative in every body involved is elected solely based on their position on the issue in question and votes in accordance with the position on which they got elected -- requires even a majority (much less a 2/3 or 3/4 supermajority) in the electorate.
Such utter nonsense. How on earth is the EU a tariff heavy zone? And to say with such confidence the EU had no part to play in preventing further wars is ridiculous.
But that's because all european politicians at that time completely discounted the fact that the vote could go that way. If only they had looked at polls then they would have realised this was a very serious risk.
Well, 35% will be ejected against their will. The other 28% didn't choose to show what their will was.
I see you didn't get that that part is not done digitally but on the rig itself.
I don't know, that's not exactly what happened in Ireland with the Lisbon Treaty. When the first referendum didn't get the results "expected", they forced a second referendum after much campaigning and the results were different. Democracy at work? Bureaucracy at work? Who knows.
This is a non binding referendum, so nothing HAS to happen at all. But all the party leaders have promised to abide by the result, with varying definitions of "immediately."

Once the PM formally starts the process, it must be completed in 2 years according to the Lisbon treaty. The end of that period is when the trade deals expire. There will clearly be preparation before they formally pull the trigger, but it's anybody's guess just how long it will be. There may be a change in UK leadership over this, and there are upcoming elections in France and Germany to consider. The Leave campaign has talked about 2020 as a good date to end the separation.

For all the treaties that will expire, trade will fall back to the WTO rules, which (to my understanding) are like the benches at train stations. They're arguably better than nothing, but very uncomfortable to sit on for any length of time.

IMO the market to watch is finance. Losing the free movement of money is an enormous blow to London as a global financial hub. Especially since the London and European stock exchanges are merging, it's possible the big investment banks will simply move to Frankfurt. The financial sector contributes 84bn to GDP (of 2.8tn), so there's a lot at risk there. So if any treaties get signed quick, it'll be the financial ones.
> But so is pretending there's nothing objectionable and that there's just a few people here and there that have "extreme" views.

I'm not pretending; it's just a few. Just because I disagree doesn't mean I'm pretending - maybe you're wrong.

Can you point to one U.S. immigrant who has stoned another American for adultery (referring to your other post)? Do you have any data of such problems actually existing? It's obviously absurd to claim these things will happen.

I think you are wrong about "belief issues"; it's just an alarmist response to normal human behavior based on a very simplistic model. People in poor, undemocratic countries have less understanding of these things than people brought up in the West. But the U.S. has been integrating those people for hundreds of years - Europe wasn't always a bastion of liberty and democracy - and almost all Americans descend from immigrants from (then) non-democratic countries. I would guess.

Have some faith in the values of democracy, liberty, and tolerance: They do have very broad appeal and are adopted by nations world-wide, from Japan to Indonesia to India to Botswana to Brazil. You might recall many Mideast countries recently had revolts pushing for those things. Finally, most immigrants know the U.S. stands for freedom and choose it.
It's what I type when I'm not thinking very clearly.

Do you have an actual point, or are you just going to continue harassing me over irrelevant things?
Remains to be seen what "leave" really means. All these things must still be voted on and negotiated in Parliament and with EU. My feeling is that it won't be as drastic once the dust settles. The elites in UK don't give up that easily.
What company is doing anything interesting that drug tests? If you tell anyone at the company that you have in the past or do now do drugs or try to stall you won't get the job. Second, who cares if they reneg on the job? There are literally tens of thousands of companies at which to work. Every single company on the face of the planet wants CS people. The only course of action if you want the job is don't say anything and just do the test. Otherwise don't waste your time or theirs.
Amazon has a big branch in Dublin too. Even before the whole Brexit thing, Ireland is already a center. I would say it is good time to bet in more.
Are you a recent immigrant?
It's not direct democracy though. If the people were to vote War/no war it would have been a different thing.
You could almost call it a referendum on Chinese domination.
The EU is chock full of exceptions and asterisks and different arrangements for different territories. It is completely possible that in the withdrawal negotiations Gibraltar, for instance, could end up with some kind of unique status.
Ignoring the other problems in this statement, can you give a single example of a 'bad' EU law?
See the math here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11965961

You can play with numbers to see exactly how important the base rate is.

If you believe your screening process is 99.9999% perfect, then most likely base rates are nearly irrelevant. I don't think my screening process is that good.
The problem here is that most talking heads are demagogues piggybacking on popular sentiment and ignorance, unfortunately.

The British people didn't say "fuck you", they said "we don't really know what we want". I mean, 52-48 is not insignificant, but it's also not a "clear, strong message" for leaving - it's a message from a divided nation who is quite literally not sure what it wants. Just sit in a restaurant tonight and look around - whatever your opinion, half of the customers agree with you.

The issues at hand are very complex and quite simply too much so for most voters to even get an idea of what's at stake. As with any such referendum, the overwhelming majority of the votes are cast emotionally. You cannot get such a massive amount of people to think through the implications rationally - they go with their gut.

So again, the message here is "we have no idea what we really want", not "fuck you".
Yes - this doesn't help at all.
When you read a sector from your hard drive and expect to get back what you wrote, you're citing a statistical prediction as fact.
Parent's point was that a single video couldn't be used to sell to multiple manufacturers, because the wheelbases are different. You would have to adjust the vehicle and shoot a new video for each new model.
That cuts both ways. Germany has used the EU to run a giant trade surplus, and if that arrangement blows up, so does their economy.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/germany/balance-of-trade
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A disaster. The implications for the EU project, and for global stability, are grave.
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Oh man, this is clever. Out of curiosity, can Prismic's content editor be made to work with a secondary CMS like WordPress or Drupal without a lot of trouble?

One of the problems I've run into as a writer is that … well, nearly every copy editing tool out there sucks, and the ones that didn't (Poetica, Editorially) inevitably don't have a business model and get bought out.
I am curious why this was down voted? Slightly cynical, perhaps, but not completely disbelievable?
I disagree with #2. The media have always said they are the gatekeeper (or the fourth power or any other labels) but it's a self assessment. Yellow press, tabloids, etc. feed off of extreme or stupid opinions that get labeled as `politically incorrect but true`. This becomes the visible mainstream discourse but time and time again elections and referendums show this is just opinions and sale driven editorial politics.

The Internet didn't break this dynamic, it's just another media in the end (regarding the press) with a louder audience for the same ideas. Moreover the fragmentation of countries into regions doesn't follow from that. It comes from national politics. National politics that just get votes and support from following point #1. And inevitably leads to a blaming game (they are a lot of Nigel across Europe).

I might be wrong and I don't have time to word my opinions like I would, sorry. Just my 2ç in the wee hour of morning.

Ah. Strikes everywhere in Belgium today.
Thing is, you can't require a supermajority from both sides; if you say that 70% is needed to validate a "Leave" vote, you're essentially saying that 31% is enough for a "Remain" vote.

Requiring a supermajority is just privileging the side that prefers the status quo.
Pauline Hanson was elected in Queensland (North Eastern state) QLD has always had 'interesting' politics.
Joh Bjelke-Petersen, Clive Palmer, Campbell Newman, Bob Katter etc. One Nation (her party) has done poorly almost everywhere else in the country.
> Almost every time I've encountered an ORM it's been an over-boiled carrot. I think I've just had bad luck, though.

Not just your bad luck. Personally, at this point, I consider ORMs an anti-pattern.
I'm not going to sugar coat my words. It's this sort of treatment that drives people mad enough to buy powerful guns and use them on lots of people before using them to end their own lives.

Why would anyone think it's okay to immerse people in some kind of compulsory pavlovian nightmare?

Go somewhere else? Like where? Panhandling in streets? Waiting for cold and disease scrape another life off the sidewalk?

What planet keeps sending us these middle-management assholes who just ache to watch someone wet their pants on the job?
In the current Swedish political climate, all you need is not being positive enough towards mass immigration and you're counted as part of the "hate crowd". You really need to watch your mouth if you're in any sort of public position.

While legally not criminal, in practice you will find your right to free speech severely challenged.

I think all such "hate speech" laws are deliberately vague opinion policing and unrightfully limits freedom of speech. They all need to go.
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It'd actually be 0.24. (Or 24%.)
France and Spain are "more stable"? How do you figure that? The UK has maintained the same basic form of government for centuries, and has been free of civil war since 1651. Spain was ruled by actual Fascists until 1975. France is on its fifth attempt at a republic (with intervening periods of monarchy, empire, reign of terror, and Nazi collaborationist regimes).
and the US has the absolute worst recording on changing their constitution. The last amendment (the 27th) was ratified in 1992 and took nearly 203 years to become law. I think they should lower the barriers to getting stuff done.
> You can't add non voters like that ...

because 0.76 + 0.34 = 1.1
OK, if that's your definition, that's fine. (It differs a bit from consensus definition, of course.)

Could you answer the spirit of the questions I asked about your `conversion'? Thanks!
I can't say I disagree with this analysis but as an ex-googler I once confronted an employee who had just stuffed at least a six pack of red bull into their backpack at the mini kitchen(MK).

Their rebuke was defensive as expected, but they also pointed out that (at the time) Google is getting rich by stealing everyone else's information and then putting ads around it and reselling it to other people, so taking a few bucks worth of soft drinks from the MK really wasn't much of a problem.

It was a rationalization of course, but it was built on a kernel of truth, and one that the author touches on as well. Which is that culturally at Google, the company felt they held the right to decide the morality of any action in the way that most favored Google. Whether that meant giving away the stories from newspapers by crawling them and summarizing them or by skating on the edges of labor laws to convert something from an expensive automation project to a simpler sweatshop project.

For those who chose to look deeply at the company's actions, I can see how it would be unsettling.
Being unsure would favour the statu quo. The statu quo is not what won. You have 52% who wanted to change the statu quo, and the 48% who would be divided between unsure and in favor of the EU.
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> They wouldn't have to let war refugees and asylum seekers in, though

Other EU states would give them citizenship (or residency) though
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Really proud that my country chose democracy over a potential loss of money.
So, devil's advocate here: Can someone explain to me why this is a bad thing? I feel like most educated people seem to think this is terrible (and the markets seem to agree), but to me, the European union seems like an anti-democratic institution that doesn't really provide much value.

I mean, don't me wrong, removing trade barriers is probably good. But won't the UK just be able to pretty quickly renegotiate basically similar terms again anyway? Are their trading partners really going to stop trading with them or substantially alter their tariff schedules as a result of this?