skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
It doesn't make to tax citizens only to give the money back to them.

Another way to implement a mincome is to have a flat tax rate and give every citizen a large standard deductible. If one's taxable income is negative, then one would receive money from the government, which is interpreted as a negative tax payment.

Furthermore, the purpose of a mincome is not to alleviate poverty, but instead to to replace current systems of welfare (food stamps, social security, etc).
I think tis is a step in the right direction, but I can't help but think that raising the floor still leaves people there on the floor. Won't inflation, as well as increased demand for the things people need just raise prices of those things out of reach of those on the floor negating any benefit?
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And pilot we're thinking 6 months to a year -- though still to be determined / could change.
Exactly. Why in the hell would one want to change their current non-google device into a 'playstore' portal ????? I just don't see it.
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Oooh, yikes, this could become an incentive for people to have tons of kids - so they can get more basic income.
You get into a new programming job, and you know what you get from it. You hire a programmer and you don't know what you can get from him. I see only one side commoditized.
Well, if a basic income were to be introduced at the state level, that still has no guarantee of continuing for any period of time.
Glad you like it!

Some situations where HyperDev really shines for us have been 2-4 people collaborating on apps in a Hackathon like setting. Being able to all get started on the same app right away and see the changes live is great. It lets us skip all the hassle of getting everyone's individual environment set up just right, instead we get to hop directly into coding.
We've had a couple blips with the launch but so far things are going strong (fingers crossed)

- A HyperDev Developer
What's a co-op position?
There's a very clear fiduciary duty to pay as little money in taxes as you can, there exists no such duty to pay too much taxes.

This is very black and white.
You know why we turn the sound off? Have you heard how whiny and self righteous millennials are?
What in the end sold the PC was that you could buy a barebones model and over time add all manner of functionality via its internal expansion slots (imo, soundblaster got big on selling combo kits of soundcard and CDROM drive).

In comparison the A500 had one expansion slot on the side.
So in other words, a long enough time to make people think they can draw reasonable conclusions about the viability of BI, when in actuality it's not long enough. You have to study the generational effects of this sort of thing. People are going to behave very differently when they know this will be around for a very short time versus the rest of their lives, nevermind how people behave when they're second or third generation BIers.
Bayesianism
The intent of my comment was to draw attention to the other side of this coin.

>You are allowed to use any opening in the law to save on taxes, but not lie.

The other side of that is:

If you (as a C(ETF)O of a company) do not use every opening in the law to save on taxes you may be violating a fiduciary duty to your shareholders.
I disagree. There's nothing difficult to understand about new phrases with new meanings in general.

Do you have a specific phrase which you can show to be sufficiently difficult to understand by a group of people, and which you don't think could be rewritten to retain the same meaning but be easier to understand?

If you do, let me know, and I will try to simplify it for you and help you understand it.

If you don't, then there isn't much to say. Your current argument ("phrases could be written in a difficult to understand way") is too general to be useful.
Yes. The effects on procreation alone are one of the most important aspects, and effectively un-studyable without some sort of closed system.
>If I receive a basic income as part of a pilot/experiment I will feel tempted to "give back" somehow, while if basic income is a baseline all humans receive, that reciprocity will not be present. How can you design an experiment so that somehow people don't feel they are receiving money in an extraordinary way, but rather that's just part of how the world works

FWIW, excepting the actually lazy (which I think comprises a vanishingly small minority of the population), I think most people will feel as though they have to give back. Sure, once everyone gets N dollars/month just for being alive, they will no longer be receiving money in an extraordinary way, but culture is hard to kill. The relentlessly inbred Protestant work ethic provably shapes a panoply of aspects of our society even now (8 hour work days that office drones spend half of on Reddit, etc); there's no reason to think that its influence will suddenly drop away with the advent of "free money". I have little to go on beyond the already extant Canadian study of 'mincome' [0] back in the 70s, but that was generally considered a success, with recipients putting the money to use in building their businesses and communities, rather than sitting on their asses (with the notable exception of new mothers and teenagers [1], for respectively obvious reasons (OTOH teenagers' HS graduation rate improved, possibly due to not feeling pressure to go get a job)).

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mincome

[1] http://public.econ.duke.edu/~erw/197/forget-cea%20%282%29.pd... , which is a 2011 analysis of the data from the 70s, largely lying fallow thanks to Manitoba's provincial Conservatives
How about people who want to serve society with "jobs" that don't pay well (or at all) but are incredibly valuable, like charity work? Wouldn't a UBI free them up to do that?
Setting aside whether or not redistribution is ever justified, I do respect the pragmatism of the UBI granted it replaces all other forms of welfare. Faced with a choice between the current welfare state and a UBI, the latter is a no brainer.

While not specifically a UBI, the negative income tax seeks to accomplish the creation of a similar safety net while still maintaining a strong profit motive for the people benefiting from it. A negative income tax is something I would definitely get behind.
Well, corporate income tax is higher that individual income tax for the vast majority of people... so it probably would mean more tax revenue overalll.

And no, income earned in the US cannot be kept offshore, so yes, taxes will actually be paid on it either when "earned" by the company or distributed (buybacks, etc).
Which server side technologies are currently supported and/or planned?
Something that is missing from the basic income/poverty debate is the notion of "learned helplessness"; after a long time in poverty, people get used to the lifestyle and have difficulty adjusting to "regular" life.

For example, if you've been homeless your entire life, you've never had to lock your apartment door or carry a key around. My partner (a social worker) had a client who's apartment was always getting robbed because whenever she left, she never locked her door; it was not something she was used to doing. Another client was unable to set an alarm and follow a schedule. 20 years of living on the street, waking up whenever he felt like it, meant that he had completely lost his faculties for time management. He couldn't hold down a job and regularly missed appointments.

Part of my partner's job was carrying these people through their journey to "regular" life. She would show up to their apartments and take them to their appointments. She would call the woman who didn't lock her doors every morning to remind her to lock her door on her way out. Etc. Etc.

Basic income doesn't solve any of this. It just drops a load of money into a person's lap who has no idea what to do with it.
Well if you all stop making fun of Muhammed peace be upon him, maybe the terrorist attacks would stop.
They specifically write that the pilot is for figuring out technicalities, like how to transfer the money.

So, pilot, not study.
Probably not the best idea to just tack the token onto the URL. There is a reason that people are not generally using tokens on URLs in lieu of cookies for session tokens. A better idea is to add a parameter in the POST body. This means that using this method all routes need a request body and you are therefore going to be mostly using POST in your API.
> Also a UBI will disincentivize working jobs that are undesirable but are necessary for a functioning society.

That's kinda the point. You drive up the cost of undesirable jobs until you find someone who'll work it. If no one wants to work it, you'll need to automate it or do without.
We did consider it, and we are working with some established academics.

However, I think it's a good idea to push forward alternative models of doing (and funding) research. Frankly, most of the existing institutions we thought about partnering closely with were somewhat bloated, and it would have made the whole study significantly more expensive and slower.
But after we disrupted our pivot and enabled a sharing economy, we forgot what we were actually doing and when back to real jobs.
Unfortunately, the explanation most consistent with data on happiness/satisfaction is that the primary utility gain from wealth is derived from gains in zero-sum social status.

We can tell this even from the language of the post itself: "everyone should have enough money to meet their basic needs."

Basic needs? Everyone in America has their basic needs. Almost all of the _basic_ needs of a human, i.e. those that we received 50,000 years ago, could be provided for $1-$2k a year. We consider modern needs beyond these to be 'basic' because there is a nature in our humanity, or the humanity of most of us, that doesn't like it when people are so far apart from one other in power or status.

As such, it's likely that this study will find, entirely correctly, that recipients are happier, more productive, etc. What they won't discover is how people behave when basic income is the status quo, rather than being the equivalent of a lottery winner. I suspect the results will be vastly different.
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I didn't get along very well with my sister, so when my mum went to work I went to the library instead of staying home. I was on a first name basis with most of the staff, but also revisited books many times if I particularly enjoyed them, so never got to a high number.

I became a librarian in the end. I rarely read anymore, my attention span and time just don't allow it.
It always struck me as more 'parody' than 'plagiarism'.
Is this just free while in beta, or will it be free/have a free tier afterwards?
Why the Talos project wants to provide an open and expandable POWER8 workstation
Why not look into Saudi Arabia's unlimited social safety nets instead of reinventing the wheel?

http://www.nationsencyclopedia.com/economies/Asia-and-the-Pa...
I would consider doing so to an XP machine.

But i would use Android-x86.

http://www.android-x86.org/
That's what I imagine happening too. $1K a month sounds great until inflation renders it equivalent to $100 a month. Perhaps it could be adjusted for inflation in some way.
Why do they not talk about the tax increase that pays for it? It's supposed to be closer to neutral. I.e. people making $100k get an extra $10k tax burden to cancel out the $10k they just got. Pretty important factor to include in the discussion, yeah?
> the top three things I'm trying to do

they being?
It looks like this particular MITM is being done by OpenDNS.

https://support.opendns.com/entries/46060260-FamilyShield-Ro...

They are trying to show a block page because this site is classified as Proxy/Anonymizer by OpenDNS, but they have to MITM the HTTPS connection in order to (try to) do so.

You might be able to avoid this censorship by using a different DNS resolver, depending how the airport wifi is implementing it.
> this could become an incentive for people to have tons of kids

Or, alternatively, to have fewer kids, if they were planning (as many parents in the USA do) to provide financial support for college to those children.
We're going to have a control group for the pilot that doesn't receive an income, and following base-line behavior is something we'll consider doing for the main study.
there's nothing wrong with uploading your dotfiles -- lots of people do that -- just as long as you do it sanely and don't upload things like .ssh/id_* and .{bash|zsh}_history
maybe people should start owning the robots.
He's calling the veracity of the article into question by citing an example, not "arguing about specifics."

When you can't get the simple things right, why should we think you got the harder things right?
Basic income doesn't always solve this for someone who is already homeless, but it might still act as a preventative measure, giving someone enough of a financial buffer to avoid homelessness entirely.
It's such a huge topic - the modern starting point are papers by Galbraith and Tobin. Since then, there's been so much research/discussion it's hard to point to one thing in particular.

If you want good starting points for someone who isn't an economist, the Boston review had a good primer, followed by a public debate:

Article: http://new.bostonreview.net/BR25.5/vanparijs.html

Debate: https://bostonreview.net/forum/basic-income-all/fred-block-w...
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Generally it's an extended internship as a supplemental part of a university curriculum.
Are there any papers addressing the issue "basic income increases the returns to owners of scarce goods" issue? I don't know what the correct name is.

Use case:

A 250 square foot apartment in a building with twenty annual homicides rents for $350 per month before basic income. After basic income, the same apartment rents for $1350 per month, because the rent on all the apartments in safer buildings has gone up due to the increased capacity to pay of renters seeking less lethal housing.
Don't. People will copy/paste links.

Better use an AJAX lib allowing a global override. Most of them allow it including the one in jquery and angular.
Let me add another way: taking the daily recommended dose of Magnesium every night. I felt 10 years younger when I started doing that. And it's pretty cheap.
I am really surprised that none of the current VR kits seem to offer a chorded keyboard on their controllers.
The fact that you even think "totalitarian levels of redistribution" is a cogent concept is a strong indicator that your opinion on this topic isn't worth much.
Are you saying that people commit crimes because they have too much time on their hands?
So, removing hateful comments about...

southerners?

people who "cling to god and guns"?

Americans?

Fundamentalists? Catholics? Mormons?

the NSA?

Trump?

Brussels sprouts?

ISIS?

NAMBLA?

Adolf Hitler?
He lost me right when he referred to GamerGate as a "terrorist hate group".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organizations_designat...
Haha, I figured you probably weren't bored.

On some level though I think that making more people acquainted with what you are working on might be beneficial to making progress.

> I don't have time to do justice to the top three things I'm trying to do.

I cannot not ask what those top three things are :-). I'm pretty familiar with your work but I'm not sure what the top three things are.
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So in an interview, I would probably try to guide the interviewee to explore some of these things. "Okay, that's a good first pass. Have you taken a look at all the example cases we started with, will your code handle all of those correctly? Can you think of any other input for this function that might return surprising results? Is there a way we can verify that we've covered all these edge cases? Oh, and what was that you said about unicode support? Can we just dig into that a little..."

Seems like we could find out plenty about how a candidate thinks and codes by pursuing this line of questioning. So long as the candidate doesn't respond to these questions by saying "Look, this is stupid, I'm not going to dig into requirements, that seems like I'd be trying to game the interview. This is my final answer - it tests palindromes. Next question.".
people generally don't commit crimes for want of a job.

and a better way to look at it is that it incentivezes changes in society that reduce the undesirable work that's necessary for it to function.
And prop up a sector that donates a fair amount of money to political campaigns.
That's certainly an issue, but your demand stifles any effort to learn more by saying that you have to study "generational effects" (what, maybe a 50 year study before you can learn anything). Which will just be followed up by the equally valid criticism that you can only study this if everyone has BI (to see if it's the relative effect that matters).

Reasonable seeming concerns, but you have to start somewhere to learn anything.
You are grossly misinformed:

https://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/about/overview/
You nailed it. Ignore the publishers. Just get academic institutions to put as much weight on a publication in an open sourced journal as they do for the leading journals. The problem will then solve itself.
What should happen when a person's twitter account is mentioned in an article that creates viral outrage, and they are bombarded with death threats, hate speech, and so forth?

Do they:

Block all the nasty tweets?

Set their account to private?

Ignore it?
Custom domains?
> "Won't inflation, as well as increased demand for the things people need just raise prices of those things out of reach of those on the floor negating any benefit?"

Ideally you'd want UBI to increase with inflation. However, as the initial study is over 5 years the decrease in purchasing power by the end of the study is likely to be minimal.

There is a risk that companies that service low-income people will increase their prices faster than inflation, negating some of the benefits of UBI. The only guard I know of for this is strong competition and disciplined consumers, people have to be willing to express their dislike of price hikes by shopping elsewhere otherwise the system won't work. I'm guessing that monitoring price rises will be part of this YC-backed study.
Not broken. Exit nodes. One has to assume all unencrypted TCP traffic will be recorded and potentially modified (MTIMed).

Consider we have that system wide tor proxy instead of the torbrowser bundle. Now exit node operators get all your TCP traffic. It's fine if one knows what they're doing[0], but if that was the default way for the average user to get on Tor? A privacy and security disaster IMO. Not only would we not provide mediocre privacy, we'd actually endanger people.

[0] and you've got proper stream isolation, which I'm not sure how possible it is system-wide with unmodified software
> The whole safe space movement was stifling freedom of speech

Consider that certain people's freedom of speech is already stifled.

What should we do about that?

Want to trade places with them?
In my country, there was a movement that tried to make education free of charge. One of their arguments was that it was going to be actually cheaper for the government.

This is what the logic was: the student loans system has a high interest rate, and when the loan is defaulted, the government needs to pay. So what the government ends up paying is not only the actual loan, but the loan with some accrued interest. Also, the default rate is high. So in this case it makes sense for the government to just pay directly.

Now, following the same mindset, how much does the government pay if there is people without a basic income? is it more than just giving away that money directly to people? If there answer is yes, then probably it's not a bad idea after all.

Now, of course there will be issues. The food stamps system imposes some restrictions that you will no longer have if you just receive basic income. Also some people might just do the minimum required to get that income and live at the expense of the government. There might be pros and cons that need to be considered.
If we start excluding groups, can we stop calling it a "Universal Basic Income" and admit that it will be yet another political weapon to wield?
Yes but it's a starting point. Conducting a generational study will take, well, generations, and that's too long. Unfortunately the longer term, multi generation study will have to be "done in production" so to speak.

It may work, it may not. But what we're (the US) doing now isn't working.
"Food insecurity" is not remotely the same thing as starvation. I would wager a fair amount that no one in the US has starved to death due to lack of money (ignoring neglect of children, catatonia, etc) in quite a while.
obviously someone else is going to have to pay for people making under 10k.
At a minimum, we need free universal healthcare that shouldn't be replaced with basic income, because poor sick people often need more expensive healthcare than a reasonable basic income can pay for. Similar for education, the current system of loans just sucks compared to universal free education which was achieved by the frigging USSR.

Also it seems pointless to give basic income to well-off people. On top of free healthcare and education, why don't we just top up everyone's income to the equivalent of the minimum wage? Sure, that will disincentivize jobs that pay close to minimum wage, but such jobs are dying due to automation anyway, and good riddance.
In terms of data sets / analysis, we plan to be totally open and make them available.
If a third party can inject arbitrary JS onto your page then how you store your session token is far from your biggest problem.
Could you explain your reasoning behind the two tokens approach? I'm guessing the HTTPOnly cookie is there to prevent token stealing (low risk as described in the article) and add defence in depth against local storage/cookie zero days?
Yep, good write-up that hits a lot of the points about how the great equalizer for communication - the Internet - also allows the ugly side of human nature to shine as well.

It's sort of like a twisted reverse of the old saying "Never meet your heroes" - this is a case of "Never interact with your audience" and that might take hold as a credo as well.

>I see things getting worse - creators walling themselves off from fans while corporate masters happily throw vision and storytelling under the bus to appease the people who can get hashtags trending.

I don't think that's getting worse, I think that's a return to form. The Entertainment Industry is all about chasing money, first and foremost. Yes, there is art within the industry but it's not some kind of altruistic charity thing.
I'm afraid with such short duration you'll not be able to observe true effects of basic income on people's behaviors.

It will be more something like "sabbatical" in academia - you can devote a time to some side projects (whether career related or pure leisure), but everything you'll do you'll do with considerations of how your life will proceed once the sabbatical is over and there is no more safety net (assuming rational actors).
I grew up with basic income. In high school my parents gave me $25 a week. If I wanted a new bicycle or expensive sneakers I had to work. At the time $25 covered going to the movies on a Friday or $7 grand stand seats at Fenway.

Maybe we should look at how teenagers manage allowances.
As a resident of Oakland, I am excited about YC running this experiment here. I'm sure there will be plenty of debate over whether it's the best location, but it is definitely a place that provides a microcosm of many the issues BI hopes to address. It also has a population, regardless of where they are on socioeconomic spectrum, that is relatively open-minded to experiments like this.

I look forward to learning more details about their program.