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Moxie Marlinspike recently published an interesting essay that adressed this question.

”XMPP is an example of a federated protocol that advertises itself as a ’living standard.’ Despite its capacity for protocol ’extensions,’ however, it's undeniable that XMPP still largely resembles a synchronous protocol with limited support for rich media, which can't realistically be deployed on mobile devices. If XMPP is so extensible, why haven't those extensions quickly brought it up to speed with the modern world?

Like any federated protocol, extensions don't mean much unless everyone applies them, and that's an almost impossible task in a truly federated landscape. What we have instead is a complicated morass of XEPs that aren't consistently applied anywhere. The implications of that are severe, because someone's choice to use an XMPP client or server that doesn't support video or some other arbitrary feature doesn't only effect them, it effects everyone who tries to communicate with them. It creates a climate of uncertainty, never knowing whether things will work or not. In the consumer space, fractured client support is often worse than no client support at all, because consistency is incredibly important for creating a compelling user experience.”

https://whispersystems.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving/
With the help of a couple of prefix aggregation tools [1] [2], the BASH shell, and the RIPE database, it is straightforward to block any Autonomous System with, e.g:

$ ASN=32934; for IP in 4 6; do \
whois -h riswhois.ripe.net \!${IP/4/g}as${ASN} |\
sed -n '2 p' | tr \ \\n | aggregate${IP/4/} |\
while read NET; do echo ip${IP/4/}tables -I OUTPUT -d ${NET} -j REJECT;\
done; done

(note this command uses echo to show the command it could execute)

[1] aggregate http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/xenial/aggregate

[2] aggregate6 https://github.com/job/aggregate6
>I think you're projecting a little here. It was so far from "politicized moderation" that I have no idea what politics you're even accusing me of.

A lot of people clearly feel the same way as me. You called a widely held perspective--though one clearly at odds with the predominant political views around here--"unthoughtful", "rage", "noise", "this kind of rant", and then buried it. If I was x0x0, I'd be quite upset to have the moderator of the site say all those things about my reasonably argued position, remove my comment from the discussion, and then not even acknowledge why it was a bad decision, or even retract those nasty and unwarranted characterizations. And everyone who saw this might think twice about sharing their perspective in the future because they might have their name dragged through the mud a bit too; you've given no reason to believe that you changed your decision for any reason but its unpopularity in this particular case.
MSN Messenger was the future of messaging

ICQ was the future of messaging

IRC was the future of messaging

Smoke signals were the future of messaging
Jabber/XMPP has a number of problems that make it unsuitable for modern chat environments where clients (read: smartphones) have poor connections and frequently want to sleep to conserve power.

For example, XMPP wants an always-on TCP connection between the client and the server for the client to appear "online". There's an extension which allows for sleeping, but having async mobile connections in an extension means that you need the right pair of server and client to enable this feature. Plus, there's no handling of syncing messages between multiple clients. If you've got a smartphone and a desktop client, to compete with Facebook Messenger you need detailed conversation transcripts on both clients -- and an intelligent way to ping your clients and tell which should receive sound notifications.

see more at https://op-co.de/blog/posts/mobile_xmpp_in_2014/
Both in a way. Most pharma companies make most of their profit in the USA. The USA has a lot of power over what drugs are developed or not.
Federated system are nice but clients for Jabber have very different quality. Some would support things you like others don't. For example iChat will always sent the background and forground colour of the chat bubbles with the message. If you added a photo to a Google Talk conversation, some people could see it others don't.

I kinda liked what Moxie once wrote: the notification area of your mobile device is the new multi protocol client and since most IM services are using identifiers like phone number or email address instead of user names, the barrier to switch a service is lower. This is the one big advantage to use the user's address book as a social graph for IM.
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For those who remember, it wasn't Gchat the "Slack" of Google but a project called Google Wave.
Would email providers block chat-over-email after you sent 1000 or so messages in the space of an hour?
Not sure but the current and next VR gen might be the next smartwatch. Overhyped.

Why =>

1. You need an highres screen which must be pixel-free. Even if you throw Samsung's ppi front runners Note 5 or S7 into a Google cardboard you definitely see pixels; it's not crisp, it's not clear, it's just annoying and those monster phones have already 500-600ppi, more than any Oculus. So we need screens with 1000 ppi minimum because they sit so close in front of your eyes. We are used to crispy Retina noteboks and even higher res smartphone screens for years and shall now go back?

2. People are annoyed by Androids micro stuttering here and there, even the mainstream users and now we believe some milliseconds latency and stutter won't hurt VR? So here we need minimum 60 fps and even more since head movements can be quite quick and morever, even subtle movements which happen with your head all the time must be reflected with same sensivity. Didn't see this yet.

3. 1000ppi at 60fps? Ok, let's try to get hardware for this; you need hardware with the best avail GPUs, coolers, heatpipes, and fat cables to your lovely headset since batteries won't help. So we talk about a non-mobile product, something with cables keeping you at one position. And a price tag far away for the mainstream user.

Once this thing can be sold next to the Playstation for few hundred bucks at the quality mentioned in 1 and 2 + killer apps we are ready to go and we can talk again about mainstream adoption. To get there I assume that we need min. 10 years if not more.

And even then, if we are there and have 1+2+3 fulfilled I come up with my 4th point:

4. Great about games is that I sit on my sofa and can conquer the world without moving at all. All is done with my fingertips on my controller. Moving is exhausting--and thats the point of video games: to not run yourself and climb mountains like you do in Uncharted 4 for days--even moving my head can get exhausting after a while and anyway head movements are also much faster done with my controller's right analogue stick. So, what's the point? Why do I need an headset when a large screen and my proven Playstation controller can do the same? Better immersion?
So was AIM, though. That didn't stop the third party clients.
people on iMessage see the difference between SMS and iMessage ALL THE TIME! I have friends that refuse to respond to my SMS messages in iMessage, since I have an android phone - We use FB Messenger to communicate instead.

Users are extremely sensitive to latency. I would ditch a chat client with any real latency in a heartbeat.
Sure. Have a look at this post [1].

1. http://dienekes.blogspot.com.au/2016/02/archaic-introgressio...
> In my personal observation, the problem of liberalism, is it is trying to enforce a ideology/doctrine in a larger scale, through law making process

This 'problem' sounds like a near-perfect description of the civil rights movement in the 60's.

I'm not saying it's the correct tactic for all social ills (as seen by liberals), but it has its use and it has worked before. I fear the problem is that the only tool they have is a hammer.
Wasn't really a problem with ICQ, even though they had actively struggled and tried to change protocols frequently (and broke unofficial clients once in few months).

The community was large, and there was a significant demand for good clients (official one was shit). I guess now the difference must be that either official client is good enough for most users, or that users' attitude to how they want things had changed and they learned to submit to whatever service providers dictate.
It's the correct link (if you read the last 15 or so comments, it'll be more obvious that there is a performance component to the issue).
E-mails take an eternity to send and receive compared to IM.
Not necessarily, but newspapers play a useful role in our society so it's definitely worth saving/helping them, but this doesn't apply to all businesses.

I have actually two idea that might help transform from advertising:

- sponsored content (I know, it's still advertising, but better), like more PR articles and in depth interviews of product creators. that can't be easily blocked and has some value.

- transforming the brand focus to journalists instead of the main brand. For example I don't really know any New York Times journalists by name, I know a few from the tech sector, but also few. Medium did this in a way, but that's out of control because anyone can share any bullshit there. The solution should be in between, like people would say instead there's a great New York Times article, "John von Foo updated his page on the Times network". The design would also author focused and brands would act as a quality filter.
Sadly not. The closest match is probably SERVFAIL, but that covers all sorts of problems. (SERVFAIL is what a validating recursive server will return if its upstream tries to NXDOMAIN a signed domain.)
If it is so one should move to a git/fork/pull request model instead?
In Switzerland I get:

"The uploader has not made this video available in your country. "

Well, that's nice.
"Temporarily" in this case can mean decades, by the end of which inflation and time value of money can considerably erode your multi million dollar sales tax bill. As an added bonus you can get a loan on your painting while it's in the warehouse because lenders can limit your access, thereby ensuring that you neither damage the collateral nor move it beyond their reach.
The reason HN probably thinks that with the startup bubble, this time it's not different, while with AI, this time it's different is because that's what the facts indicate and HN tends to be well informed.

The bubble is same old and it's debateable whether it even is a proper bubble or just some frothy valuations. Such periods of overvaluation have happened many times and will come and go.

The AI thing is quite different. If you accept the human brain is effectively a biological computer and that normal computers get more powerful every year then inevitably there's a point when they get more powerful (in terms of processing power and memory) than the biological ones. This is happening over the next twenty years roughly. No one said that is happening before. It's a one off inevitable event that will happen once and only once in human history, of a significance comparable to the evolution of multicellular life forms say. It should be interesting to see.
> People lower on the SES spectrum generally lack for leisure time.

Where did you get this idea? It's certainly not accurate in the US.
If there isn't already a law to identify when a animal was slaughted in a ritual manner, I would not be against it. Its the same as letting the consumer know that the eggs are from free range hens.
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I am hoping the Matrix team will write a blog post about their viewpoint on Moxie's post, given that they are out to do something Moxie doesn't believe can succeed. I'm also curious to hear how they respond to the specific section you quoted: how is Matrix going to avoid the same fate XMPP suffered here?
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It's very unlikely that that missed mystery call was important. There'll be times when you'll be waiting for the results of a hospital test or when a loved one is ill. But generally, all my communication is on opt-in systems like Facebook, WhatsApp etc. My Android phone doesn't let me block numbers, which is a little annoying but adding persistent nuisances such as desperate recruitment composites to my contacts as "ignore me #4" does the trick.
The phone company is delivering these calls so it's their job to sort it out. I don't want any number withheld calls, ever. I expect phone companies to work together like email companies do and blacklist people who abuse the system. I want an easy way to report abuse so phone companies have no excuse.
I await for the current hype to calm down for the same reason. I see it as the natural evolution of monitors.
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Seems to be the case in multiple European countries, I get the same message in Sweden
Those kind of measures requested testing each candidate, which costs money and time.
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Yeah and white people are worse than asians at math and blacks are more likely to rob your store

The fact that there are still people that don't understand discrimination in this day and age is infuriating. If you think your interview candidate is potentially senile then you should screen for senility and not lump people based on statistical averages for whatever pigeon holes your constructed for them. People need a chance to surpass whatever stereotypes you hold even if they're based on statistically facts.

Not only is it down right illegal, it what perpetuates discrimination and causes so many of our social problems

PS: I'm sorry this is off topic, but this is a very important issue - and simplistic narrow minded thinking like this needs to be pointed out for the common good
I think replacing Workstations with multiple displays would be the killer APP.

Finally I would look like the hackers from the movies
I'm confused about your reference to Australian Aboriginals. The majority of them were decimated by disease and out right violent attack from whites... how are either of those scenarios relevant here?
That's fine. I am really interested in the possibility of running a 'homeserver' directly on a phone.

Do you think that would be possible?
Discord is great. We use it at my company.

Search is sorely lacking. Tab complete is buggy. But it's really great.

Really wish you'd open source it.
I'm not correcting the guy's grammar for god's sake. I'm pointing out a subtle but serious prejudice and discrimination that is pervasive in our industry. But go on and cover your ears and pretend it's not happening
Once someone has sought medical help (I'm assuming doctors and hospitals don't screen their calls) then contacting family members isn't such a life or death priority. Obviously you'll want to find out as soon as possible, but the list of loved ones is usually reasonably long and i personally don't go through life terrified that every last ringing phone is bringing me terrible news. Sometimes my phone is out of battery or i have no coverage for days on end when I'm on holiday. I don't let it ruin my life.
I'm genuinely curious: why would someone want to have a dog and have someone else (in your scenario, a robot) interact with it.
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I think that was copyright. If you're referring to Queen Mary (who created the modern system of copyright).
I think the battery problem still remains unsolved, other than that yes it's old technology.
Huh? Here in EU the DSL speeds have been steadily growing up to 50Mbit without users doing much (ISPs deploy either modern ADSL2+ or versions of VDSL). A copper wire that could only carry 8Mbit before now carries full triple-play at 30+Mbits.

Most of that has come from legislation that forced the monopolistic owner of copper wires to let competition use them.
I'm still using XMPP to connect to GChat ... I use it every workday (via Pidgin).
Have someone bring over their falcon every now and then:
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That was never the point of [citation needed]. I created that because it was impossible to remove info without a massive revert war. It was meant to encourage sourcing reliable material that backs up the text, it was certainly never intended to allow text to remain without a citation forever.

I'd encourage those who add the tag and who find that even after discussion (or if discussion is totally ignored!) none is provided that they remove the material. They just need to use commonsense to work out a reasonable timeframes.
For someone not really familiar with the FB API, is it possible to get a list of all people in a certain city, or are data mining techniques necessary?
I agree to some extend, but I don't think this explains the low birth rate compared to other very similar countries like France, the UK or the US, where many of the things you describe apply equally or in greater measure.

An aspect that seems more uniquely German is looking down on mothers that give their child to daycare "too early", meaning, before it's 3 years old.

Anecdotally from conversations with friends in their mid late twenties, early thirties, the idea that you have to justify yourself as a woman, or somehow fail as a mother, if you start working again too soon is still very prominent.
There is vastly more generic similarity than difference... racism is never about genetics, it's always about shared (or not) culture.

The genetic arguement is completely bogus, shouldn't you be removing all the dogs first before you start splitting difference between humans?
> If you're going to call me a Nazi, I think all I can do is stick out my tongue, call you a commie, and close the tab.

Call me a commie if you like, I'm not ashamed to admit I sympathise with Communist principles (class and race/gender equality, for example) - unlike you, quacking like a fascist but too embarrassed to openly admit it.

The only people I see online making the effort to argue Nazism was not as bad as "X" are Nazi sympathisers/fascists. I mean who else would bother?

If you want to 'take down' a stupid and ridiculous caricature of what a Communist is ("Che wearing millennial" or whatever) you can do it without mentioning Nazis at all.

Instead you chose to take the 'at least the Nazis weren't as bad as the Communists' route. Your other posts here defending fascism don't exactly scream "Not a Nazi-sympathiser" either, so I don't know who you think you're trying to kid.

What happened after the Russian, Chinese or Cuban Revolutions doesn't negate the beliefs behind and reasons for the revolutions themselves (equality and 'the people'), any more than what happened after the American Revolution - almost 100 years of slavery, aggression and "Manifest Destiny" (cf. Lebensraum), followed by another century of racial persecution and overseas aggression/imperialism - negates the ideas and beliefs behind that revolution (equality and 'the people').

What happened in Germany after 1933, however, went exactly according to the Nazi playbook. What happened in Italy and every other fascist country, likewise, went exactly according to fascist principles.

Nobody becomes a Communist because they believe in purges or gulags; and nobody becomes a Nazi or a fascist because they believe in good roads, advanced rocketry or trains running on time.

That's why Nazis and fascists have a stigma attached to them - because the principles behind both are reprehensible to most people.
He said "less". Wiki-internal links usually remain valid. They can hardly help external links rotting away.
Because the dog needs to be walked several times a day, whether you need to work late / go on holiday in a non pet friendly place / go out that night / wake up late, or not.
One day it will go away...
> It already happened for personal correspondence (facebook) and I'm sure at some point it'll happen for work correspondence too.

I don't know the numbers but I'm part of the population that never used Facebook, so I'm unconvinced you can generalize like that.

> Put simply, in a world where clients are all free and the identifier of choice is the phone number, federation doesn't add much value.

I didn't really understand Moxie's arguments, but he may know more due to the projects he's involved in.

But how is interoperability achieved? The beauty of HTTP, NNTP and SMTP are that you're not bound to one (or maybe two) client experiences or server implementations. I don't understand the desire to leave achievements like that on the floor just for temporary comfort. It's a slippery slope and will lead us into a long time of silo'd communication.

To me the current proposals look like if I had to use 4 different post offices depending on whom I want to send a package to. There's a reason addresses are universal.
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Computers are millions of times faster than 30 years ago, let alone 60 when the field started. There are that many decades of new knowledge and research. There is a dozen times more funding than in the past. AI research is actually producing things of economic value now. And the field has moved past brute force search and dumb expert systems, to deep general learning algorithms.

Of course this time it's different. The only question is how different?

I would say that HN is cautiously optimistic about the future of AI, in aggregate. With extreme opinions on both sides, of course. But there are many skeptical articles that reach the front page, and there are many skeptical comments like yours at the top of every thread about it.

The opinion also seems to be "in my lifetime" or "in the next few decades", not in the immediate short term future. That's a pretty long time, and a lot could happen in that time. Saying that AI will definitely not happen in that time, is just as overconfident as saying that it definitely will.

Lastly, saying "people in the past who said 'this time it's different' were wrong once, therefore anyone who says that is wrong", is a fully general counterargument. You are applying it to vastly different domains (short term economic bubbles vs long term technology predictions). And you are glossing over all the details of the arguments.
You (probably) do want `final` classes?
Cognitive decline starts a lot earlier than 70, reflexes start getting worse after 25, other cognitive capabilities decay later on in life

When does age-related cognitive decline begins http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0197458009...

White matter damage on diffusion tensor imaging correlates with age-related cognitive decline http://m.neurology.org/content/66/2/217.short

Evidence for cortical “disconnection” as a mechanism of age-related cognitive decline http://m.neurology.org/content/57/4/632.1.short

I can't believe I'm being down voted for this. Is like when someone says males have naturally more upper body strength and then some feminists get mad, even when is written in a biology study about musculature.

This obsession for political correctness is corrupting scientific knowledge and research.
Perhaps she should have called using your father's phone.
I am not sure batteries would be a problem for a household robot. There are power sockets everywhere. And the robot can take a break from most tasks to charge itself (and like a dog it would spend most of the day sleeping anyway!).
I have had some success with getting people on signal, though now that Whatsapp is encrypted by the same technology there doesn't seem to be a big benefit anymore. Generally it seems to me people are not so adverse to having several messanging sollutions installed these days.
Spot on. I'm so surprised so see so many close minded tech geeks here on HN. Is it really so difficult to extrapolate from the current of VR tech to a few years out? My guess is most negative people on here hasn't actually tried the Vive.