Sorry again, this will be needlessly verbose... And I don't intend to sound antagonistic, I'm merely trying to explain my viewpoint, and don't have time to condense this. (I won't be offended if you don't read or respond, especially since you said you were going to end, and I'm posting a wall of text. The fault is mine, not yours.)

There are two main competitors, the Vive and Rift. And prior iterations of the Rift, the DK1 and DK2, have caused the "I want to take this off, because I'm motion sick!" problem.

That's widely known. No controversy in that, at all. (I haven't "created" that "conspiracy"... it's documented history that maybe you and other HN posters are unaware of.) The main remaining question is, "Has the Oculus Rift CV1 solved that better than the HTC Vive CV?"

The. Remaining question.

The history of how many iterations Oculus and other vendors have gone through is way, way less interesting. To me and many other people who have made, or are about to make, a $600 or $800 or $1400 (buy both!) purchasing decision.

Since the history of VR is littered with devices that have made the users want to take them off, it's no surprise that someone would have tried one, or two, or even a dozen of them (including the Oculus Rift DK1, and the Oculus Rift DK2), and then they tried the HTC Vive (Pre or CV), and they finally, amazingly, delightfully, did not have the "ohmygod I have to rip this off my head!" response. That's what most users of the Oculus Rift Crescent Bay or HTC Vive Pre reported when they first tried one or both - stunned delight that the products had finally become usable.

So, now someone has tried a bunch, and finally the HTC Vive. That person could easily report, "The HTC Vive (DK or Pre or CV) is the first headset that I've not wanted to take off."

The information content of that is very, very low. No surprise. And yes, they probably did "want to take off" all the previous ones - they were bad. I know I did.

Even if their experience includes the Oculus Rift DK1... and to a slightly lesser degree, the Oculus Rift DK2. Still very little information content in that statement.

BUT, if they've ALSO tried the Oculus Rift CV1 (or Crescent Bay, really), then they have jumped all the way to having an informed decison, on the two most important products on the market right now.

Then, the information content of their comparison leaps a great deal.

I should have asked. I completely acknowledge that. I should have been more polite. I completely acknowledge that.

I really want to see more and more reports from people who have tried both the Oculus Rift CV1, and the HTC Vive CV. I really don't care about the opinion of someone who has tried dozens of VR devices, and the Vive, if they haven't also tried the Rift CV1. Which is entirely plausible.

When someone reports that the Vive is the FIRST that gave them the "I don't want to take this off" experience, I really need to know if they've ALSO tried the Oculus Rift CV1, and if they ALSO got the "I don't want to take this off" experience from it. If they haven't tried the Rift CV1, then, frankly, their opinion is not informed enough to be interesting to me, or to anyone else about to decide between Oculus Rift CV1 and HTC Vive CV.