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> before you're allowed to respond to someone being wrong, you have to first be able to express their position in a way that they agree represents their view

While we're at it, let's stipulate that everyone is only allowed to be honest and logical and to base their reasoning on valid premises! :)

It's a nice thought, at least at first glance, but it's just not going to happen.

Besides, the real problem with debates is actually willful dishonesty.

There are vast hordes of sociopaths playing games and overcomplicating things to no end, arguing for positions they don't actually hold, and basically just preventing discussions from ever getting anywhere.

The smart ones are like firehoses of sophistry and misdirection, the dumb ones just (fake-)rage and call people names, and I guess somewhere in between you'll find militant feminists and race baiters and people calling for "safe spaces" and whatever nonsense they come up with.

Some sociopaths have come up with a fun new game: trying to convince people that the earth is actually flat. Yes, sadly that's actually a thing. Look them up on YouTube or something.

But these "people" are the real reason why we can't seem to have a reasonable discussion on anything.

Apparently it's enjoyable for them to fuck everything up, and to prevent mankind's progress towards enlightenment as best they can.

That seems like self-destructive behaviour, but they do it anyway. A bunch of them will see this post, but not one will sincerely help us understand.
As a user, my experience with HTML/CSS/JS apps is great. Look at the excellent feedback the Atom Editor is getting.

As a developer, I feel that it's easier for me to create good user experience (nice UI, easy non-blocking I/Os by default, etc).

I don't say it's flawless, I say it's now becoming a very good alternative.
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You're conflating a binary with a continuum.

The dominant American culture is not one with a single consistently-applied rite of passage to adulthood. Over about a decade, people go though multiple transitions (age of majority, voting age, drinking age---heck, a lot of people even recognize the age at which rental car companies stop applying a "You're probably a dangerous driver" surcharge, at 25 years old).
> with plenty of "kids these days" rants

I'm a student at a top 4 year university, and I find the lack of student backbone nauseating. The current trends in university culture go entirely counter to the reasons that we have higher education. Instead of encouraging expression, our culture deafens it with its constant concern towards avoiding offence.
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anyone used this fork: http://www.fossamail.org/ ?

I don't mind paying for Thunderbird, hope someone picks up the development. Firefox is great but there are alternatives, Thunderbird is great and _unique_ (across platform and an overall good product), I somehow feel Thuderbird is of more use to me than Firefox itself.
The ability to show all events for the current day in the Today Pane. It only shows events at or past the current time. I've looked everywhere for an option.
Ridicule is a consequence, bring back the stocks I say! (only half joking...)
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The list can be very long. I am not sure if Windows 10 is perfect. For me, it is as perfect as Bold Touch 9930 to Blackberry.
Or just copy/paste the link.
That's only true if you choose to obfuscate your code on android. I recently decompiled an apk and all variables/function names were perfectly readable
Because mobs like these are totally open to intellectual discourse and reason. If only the professor had done more to be courteous and empathize with the students' desired ends /s

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/the-new-...

But to your point, passing the Ideological Turing Test is something that I think is worth aspiring to.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideological_Turing_Test
I've noticed this as well. My fiancee attends a school to train Nurse Anesthetists. All of the students are previously professional nurses with multi-year work experiences. The school treats all of them like children. They treat them like they're not professionals and they're incapable of being responsible. As an outsider, it's the most frustrating thing in the world because I just want to slap these people and knock some reason and respect into them.

It doesn't help too that it's a Seventh-Day Adventist school and we're both atheists. But it's the only school in town so...
These integrated omnipath fabric ports... are they going to be competitive with low latency NICs like those provided by SolarFlare/Mellanox ?
You're trying overly hard to rationalize something here.
I don't understand why you are dismissing claims as social justice and then trying to claim you are a more logically minded person.

How is the claim that not all asian people agree with your father or had traumatic experiences with terrorism also invalidating experiences your father had? You claim to be a logical minded person but I'm not following the logic that your father's experiences are invalidated when someone says they don't share that view.
My style is to consume less but more deeply. I wouldn't get anything out from a fastened show.
Not sure...never had any debate as a part of my education (through grad school). I think they should start in high school though because if you're going to be a participant in an informed electorate you need to be able to process and articulate both sides of an argument. A casual glance at a few facebook timelines and twitter feeds suggest this is a horribly rare skill these days.
Of course every subject is incredibly difficult if you're drowning in moral relativism and are thus incapable of judicious thought.

This is not about "being yourself"-euphemism for doing as you please with utter disregard for everything including yourself-, this is about taking responsibility for your actions, about having the honesty and strong enough morals to judge.

The "being yourself" vs "chasing one's potential" you talk about is the difference between animal and human.
> the biggest threat facing humanity today.

Hyperbole?

> We can deal with the Christians

I don't want to deal with the Christians. I don't agree with their worldview most of the time, but the don't need to be dealt with.

> once we sort out the safe spacers

They are the safe spacers, just by a different name. Also, I think safe spaces are fine and they don't need sorted out.

I was just making an observation on his hypocrisy and that safe spaces are not just for left-leaning people. He has cultivated a safe space for Christians and is bemoaning safe spaces for potential non-Christians.
Correct. There is clearly something interesting happening in the data - it's very far from what you'd get by random chance. That seems to be worth studying, yet no one seems to be doing it. The point is not that it can be perfectly summarized by skin color, the point is that there is clearly something happening and it would be great to find out what.

Of course, as it relates to my original post, the only relevant fact is that indeed there is something happening that a white male might have reason to feel irrational fear of. (The table shows that most crime is intra-racial, not inter-racial)

Let me remind you of the original point: various people are feeling irrationally large amounts of fear but that fear is of a real thing (either historical, as in maaku's case, or real but exaggerated things in the case I described).
Yes...actually they are. That's what a trigger warning is.

It's insisting that a declaration be given in advance to remove someone from the possibility of having to cope with something uncomfortable.

A safe space is an echo chamber.

If we really want to know the cause of these tendencies, we need only look to the internet. You used to need to find a group of people to hang out with in your area and in doing so you'd associate with the social norms of that group, whatever they may be.

Now you craft your friend's list on Facebook with people who agree with you and reinforce you. If you've ever clicked the "unfollow" button you're guilty of this. This reinforcement leads to an echo chamber.

As a culture, we're effectively putting canvasing over logic and reason in all areas. That's essentially what you get from a social feed that reinforces your views - constant news that agrees with you...which is just canvasing yourself.

Canvasing feeds on feelings and reaction over reason. You look at just about any socially convenient topic and you'll see this. Just as an example, let's look at diversity in tech since this is Hacker News.

We're more than willing to accost the entire industry for lack of diversity as if it's somehow their fault. Yet most of these companies are falling all over themselves to hire people and we aren't hearing stories about discrimination or people not getting jobs...we just see the numbers and assume something is wrong.

We're not allowed to consider that people might tend to just be wired a certain way. Men's brains work differently than women's. Certain problems might be interesting to certain types of people and not to other.

Instead we create a cause and a problem that must be fixed immediately. We look at it from an emotional perspective rather than looking at all of the factors involved to just see if it happens to just be a general tendency or a real problem.

A problem is more marketable...so we go with that instead.
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As an active user of Thunderbird I am very disappointed with these news.

But these rants are just silly. XUL is a technology that needlessly duplicates what HTML/CSS do these days. And if you ever want to have a smooth transition to servo, which solves real, deep problems, having a html UI is going to be dramatically important.
> pushing my friends to telegram

Do you have any suggestions on how to do that? The People I know either think Whatsapp is gods gift to mankind and won't switch or they can't use anything else because the people they interact with think it's gods gift to mankind and won't switch. I find it pretty hard to break that cycle.
Sincere question: why should you not accept it?

>Any person capable of angering you becomes your master; he can anger you only when you permit yourself to be disturbed by him.

-Epictetus

To answer your question, we should accept it because that is the way reality is fundamentally. Go ahead and try to eternally fight to erase all darkness so that there is only light. Spoiler alert: it's impossible. If there were no darkness there would be no such thing as light because light implies the presence of darkness and darkness implies light.
Mainframes and thin clients maybe? "All of the computing power will be over here, and the clients will be dumb and just render stuff!"
Pretty easy: https://github.com/mvo5/godd
Obligatory because of "real programming" reference:

https://xkcd.com/378/
This has been around since 2011 as part of their Adobe Edge platform. I saw this a few years ago when parallax was still a big deal.

It certainly makes it nice and easy to do animations with Animate, but the code it creates is horrific.

Here is one of the examples from the Animate page: http://html.adobe.com/edge/animate/showcase/interactive-marq...

And the underlying code: http://imgur.com/g33rfUy
> what was the equivalent of HTML/CSS/JS in the 80s?

Depends what are looking as an equivalent. Browsers didn't exists but markup languages have been around since the 70's (mentioned for first time in late 60's)[1]

Maybe an equivalent to express GUI as resources? yeah, we called it RAD back in the day and they were quit popular among some circles. Does somebody remember Hypercard? Or even the first versions of Visual Basic?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markup_language#History
I recommend adding a /s tag. The other poster didn't catch the sarcasm.
Maybe this is all a colossal puton by Gehry: he hates offices so he makes them crappy. Except companies aren't that smart and end up worshipping the design.
> Why rewrite it in another language? It isn't currently broken.

You need to support that claim. The people who actually work on Firefox have a list of reasons why they made this decision:

https://blog.mozilla.org/addons/2015/08/21/the-future-of-dev...

Why are we to believe that you are better qualified to make that call?
And the lynchings maaku described are less common today than drowning in a swimming pool. What's your point?

Note that I linked to it for the content of the first data table. My link is not an endorsement of every single viewpoint that someone at that URL might hold - I actually just spent 2 minutes googling for a fact I had seen before and pasted the first link that had the data table.
But that's the thing about it. A sermon does not hit the same topic every time. Take homosexuality. As I was growing up, homosexuality was not a topic that was often covered. In most biblical circles (at least of the denomination that I attended) homosexuality was a black-and-white issue: it's wrong 100% of the time regardless of circumstances.

In my high school years, I knew of 3 closeted gay people that attended my church. Since homosexuality was rarely talked about, you could reasonably assume that it may get talked about once a year - if that. On those days, however, I'm sure it felt as if the were being publicly lambasted for something they had no control over. I have never even considered myself bisexual, but it always made me extremely uncomfortable listening to sermons about homosexuality. I can only imagine how those people felt.

This is a situation in which I feel that someone who otherwise attends a service regularly would feel the need to speak out.
> Asking for a "safe space" where you don't have to deal with your conscience is horribly absurd.

You act as if "conscience" is an objecively good thing, and not just the result of a bunch of totally arbitrary social expectations.

Gay people who grew up in conservative families often have a conscience that makes them feel bad about being gay. Gay people looking for safe spaces where they aren't reminded that they spent 18 years being told they are bad people is imminently reasonable.

Abused wives often feel guilty about leaving their husbands. Finding safe spaces where they don't have to feel guilty about doing the right thing is imminently reasonable.

So, no, it's not unreasonable to find places where you don't have to "deal with your conscience"
> Being nonstandard is completely irrelevant here

It was meant as a pro. Since it was their own language, they could do anything with it. They could make a better HTML.

But HTML caught up. Currently, I believe HTML is better than XUL, and making XUL great again is both a silly reuse of a political slogan and a waste of effort.

I for one would rather see efforts made to allow CSS styling of all input elements in HTML.
Agreed, considering they've built Vector (mentioned by bgregg in the second sentence - https://github.com/Netflix/vector) on top of Performance Co-Pilot. While PCP doesn't yet have all the wrappers to mimic each sysstat output in a fully compat manner. The underlying mechanisms to remotely fetch that data (using the tools Vector is already built on), is already there.
This is a really important observation. Also, in the US, it's quite relevant to the current state of political rhetoric - I know the 'outrage half-life' is pretty short these days, but pointing to the Starbucks Red Cup "manufactured controversy" can, I think, reasonably be referenced to illustrate the hypocritical victimization tendency alive and well in modern (fundamentalist-oriented) Christianity. I think it's no coincidence that OKWU's official stance would be to decry "victim culture" when convenient, and embrace it when expected to conform to the will of society at large (e.g. Hobby Lobby vs. Obamacare).
> not that advanced and mature, but a pleasure to use...

No encryption, no CardDav, no Sieve support. Yes, I need plugins for this in Thunderbird, but I can have them if I want to. geary is also hectic on which distribution/release is supported.

The user interface is nice though.
Insightful comment, and I agree that's a difficult problem. I think there's room for a conversation about that, and I'm not sure where I fall. If people made their arguments like this instead of "We must protect bullies/racists!" I'd find them much more convincing :)
My view in short is that attempting to act with empathy without first ensuring you understand the subject and those affected is exactly what you not should do. Too many people want to treat the symptom instead of finding and solving the cause.

Logic and empathy has to be applied together - you need to figure out why people act like they do (which requires both), and then find a solution that is as beneficial as possible to as many as possible (which again requires both).

Applying logic like a robot will lead to optimizing the wrong numbers and will hurt people, and empathy without logic will lead to knee-jerk reactions that again will have unintended sideeffects which will hurt people.

And both logic and empathy requires the forgotten old principle of proportionality. You don't break down and cry over somebody's bruises (you'd be considered insane) and you don't fix a failing break by instead taking out the engine to ensure you won't crash.
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Statistically speaking, police stop and look for crime disproportionately to minorities. no?
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/crime/nypd-targets-minorities-...
> It's reasonable for OWKU to make this announcement. They are laying out their expectations for their student body.

It may be reasonable for OWKU to make an announcement of their expectations of student receptiveness to uncomfortable sermons, the particular details and manner in which Dr. Piper did so in this case, however, taken as presented, shows a lack of both the general adult ability to maturely deal with uncomfortable situations and the specific Christian virtues it pretends to be concerned with.

> OWKU is a private institution and also a religious one (even greater protection). They are well within their means and rights.

I don't think anyone has argued that OKWU's actions here were either unaffordable (outside of the University's means -- not sure why that would even be relevant) or illegal (outside of the University's rights).

The negative responses I've seen have all be skepticism about the accuracy of the presentation of the situation and arguments that, even if the situation was presented accurately, the piece is a poor response to the situation it describes. (The comment you responded to was explicitly the former -- raising the idea that the "complaining student" has become a common fictional foil to set up rhetorically, whether or not a real complaint exists.)

Not that it is outside of the University's "means and rights".
Perhaps in India, the solution was more targeted than what was being sought in Pakistan.

The interesting thing about all this is that it raises the question of how companies like Blackberry will react if the UK's Investigatory Powers Bill is passed in its current form.
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First of all, no one in that article is uncomfortable because they can't distinguish between "the threat of rape and and the discussion of relevant law." We're talking about survivors of sexual assault, for whom the often very explicit discussions of rape law can be emotionally taxing.

You're right that we do need to teach rape law, now more than ever, and we need to be able to have these nuanced and explicit discussions - but there's ways to do that with empathy for survivors of sexual assault. And honestly, I don't see how warning the class about the content of a discussion beforehand or a few people abstaining (one's that likely wouldn't be participating much anyway) will drag down the entire system.
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> I thought the samwer brothers just cloned successful companies that already proven in the market?

Yes, because those are the valuable ideas. From their point of view spending time on unproven ideas is a waste, it is much easier to copy a successful company for a niche market than it is to come up with an entirely new concept for a much broader one.
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What advantage do Cloud IDEs have over, say, sshing to your development host?

If the primary idea is to work remotely, ssh+vim+your toolchain should be just as serviceable.
I've once tried to look at the source code of Eclipse many years ago. It was by far the most over-engineered thing I've seen in my entire life.

I've since found out about Emacs and the contrast is striking; Emacs being a shining example of simplicity and extreme power while Eclipse is literally bloated boilerplate central in comparison.

This pretty much prevents me from taking anything coming out of the Eclipse Foundation seriously.
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The problem with XML is that there are a lot of different programming models (streaming, pull, DOM), many schema and validation formats (DTD, XSD, RELAX NG), to the point that most people didn't care and just manually generated some monstrosity surrounded <>'s using printf.

Personally, the way to get value out of using XML today is to find or make a schema in the most restrictive and expressive format possible that's supported by your development environment (RELAX NG or Schematron are the prime contenders), then use it as a safety belt every time you read or write data. The schema helps handle all the nastiness of parsing, which is the real enemy: https://www.usenix.org/system/files/login/articles/login_aug...
I don't usually make quips about religion - but - you're baffled that a religious person ignores inconsistencies in their argument to establish moral superiority ?
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Yes, adulthood is a continuum. That's why it's wrong to say that college is for "adults". Some of students are very immature, some have more wisdom than older people. So I am not disagreeing with your point of view.
That's why I have an Xbox 360 and a PS 3. They are still making games for those platforms plus I can play the back catalog for a long, long, time.
Typing up invoices and talking to clients is not as much fun as coding for some people. For others it is more fun. Going to work and "getting away with" questionable habits around client relations is just the flip side of going to work and "getting away with" poor habits around coding rigor.

The lazy way to handle the habit is to get someone else to do it...i.e. a partner or a service or an employee or a book keeper or your split personality if you have one [you don't].

If the clients aren't upset, and they'll let you know by hiring someone else, then it's just a quirk and not worth beating yourself up over.

Good luck.