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> You need to back that up.

Besides presenting us with an unfalsifiable anecdote, you obviously haven't read the article. It's about backing that claim up:

"Fast forward now to 1936, when August Dvorak ... patented the Dvorak Simplified Keyboard...

The standard telling of [the Navy Study] story turns out to be false in almost every important respect....

[Dvorak et al] compared students of different ages and abilities (for example, students learning Dvorak in grades 7 and 8 at the University of Chicago Lab School were compared with students learning QWERTY in conventional high schools)...

Even in their studies, however, the evidence is mixed as to whether students learning Dvorak retain an advantage, since the differences seemed to diminish as training progressed."
Apple clearly just wants to avoid litigation.

I'm no lawyer, but there is another side to the litigation issue: What happens if Apple is deemed to be creating a de facto monopoly for some company? We have laws against stuff like that too.
Namecheap isn't the cheapest of them all, but for new domains, they are less expensive than godaddy now. I've been using them for years without a problem. Clean interface, paypal supported, and it just works like it should.
non-https link:

http://forge.ocamlcore.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=511
Trademark law would be enough.

Whether they would win the suit or not does not matter, they can sue.

Whether they have a case or not is for a judge to decide.
I have a feeling it's only going to get more relevant, because now the software is moving toward the web, it is insanely convenient and easy to lock-in users and restrict freedoms.

There are of course a freaking huge number of problems with the idea of open-sourcing the entirety of many website backends. I think there can be great discussion though on various models. GitHub offering web hosting instead of just repo hosting seems like a possibility.
Only because the other one comes with a ton of warnings about expired certificates and exceptions that need to be added.

Weird how they run an https server for a language forum anyway.
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I think email is still somewhat necessary. First of all, you aren't everyone, just because email isn't useful for you doesn't mean it's not useful for your users. Second of all, most web apps require an email address to sign up, if for no other reason than to send a forgotten password reset. So even all those kids who really don't have a use for email still have an email address to sign up for things like Facebook. Speaking of Facebook, this service and others have a lot of resources to research these sorts of things, and they still use email as a signup.

As a user, I prefer when a service uses email for usernames. One reason is that I can remember my email address, even if I don't use it. Often I forget the usernames that I use to sign up for various services. The other reason is that I know my email address is going to be unique, so that saves me from playing the "username is already taken" game.

I don't really have a problem with spam or known email users who are over active. Gmail does a pretty damn good job of filtering the spam. Custom filters do a good job of clearing things that aren't really spam but still annoying.
I am in bangalore and Mint is nice for sure Paras but the point is that should I still subscribe to news"paper" or just read everything online :)
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it squares with my own experience

The placebo effect can make cancer go away for a while. Vanishing RSI is trivial.

You're especially at risk because you've already sunk time and effort into retraining yourself, and have made a conscious decision to separate yourself from everybody else. That's Big Magic, psychosomatically speaking.

None of this means you have to go back to QWERTY (or for that matter, that QWERTY is any less broken). But if Dvorak's research really was shoddy and self-serving, and you want to take care of the hands you presumably use to earn a living, wouldn't it be a good idea at this point to look into other keyboard layouts with better-documented benefits?

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The (A)GPL is still very relevant. The whole point of free software (in the GNU sense) is that you should have complete access to the sources of a software system.

In the case of a web application, this includes server side
software. No matter what some vocal AGPL opponents here say, this opinion is not exclusively held by fundamentalists:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=15855
My understanding is that babies stick things in their mouths because their other senses aren't well developed, so their tongue is the best "scanner" they have. They are just trying to learn about their world in spite of having poor vision, poor tactile information, etc.
>> "it is insanely convenient and easy to lock-in users and restrict freedoms."

I agree, but is that really a bad thing? We all have to make money somehow. I'd rather website owners had real incentive to please their users, and being able to make money is a good incentive.

I don't see how open source can really be relevant on the web. If facebook want to do something to drive users away, or ristrict users freedom, that's up to them. If they do it enough, someone else will setup a rival website that pleases users better. How does open sourcing fit into this? I don't think it does. Most website is simple enough that you don't need free source code. Any one of us could clone facebook if we had enough time and determination.

Open sourcing is certainly a nice thing to do, and I'm sure we'd be lost without our own favorite open source tools, but I think it makes less sense on the web.

As I've said before, I don't use X because it's open source, I use it because it's free, and there are people behind it who care.

I think that's all that matters really.
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This really screwed us up, we used to pay out our best members a part of the proceeds (the 'camarades goldrush program'), and we had about $50K in our paypal account at the time, in reserve for payouts.

We ended up having a serious hickup in our cashflow, paid out the users from our other income and quit the goldrush program.

Users that were using paypal and that did not have an alternative way to pay (such as a credit card) were lost as paying members.

Since then I've used paypal only when I absolutely have to, and I really loathe their support department.

Anybody that uses paypal to receive funds for their business is asking for trouble.
As I understand it, poisonous things are often orange. But, then, plenty of things that aren't poisonous are also orange. If you can mimic a poisonous thing and convince other things to not eat you, bonus! Producing poison is actually rather costly, so just being a scam artist is a cheaper way to survive. Of course, this only works if actual poisonous stuff outnumbers scam artist plants/critters. If the percentage relationship is reversed, the whole thing falls apart because other things conclude that "You're probably safe to eat, since most other things that look like you have proven to be safe".
Was excited about WakeMate, so much so that I ended up just buying a Zeo. Been using it as an alarm clock for about a month now, and gotta say, its incredible. It basically wakes you up every morning when it detects you are already in light sleep. Been a big morning changer for me since I started using it.

If WakeMate can provide anything close to Zeo for what they're charging (much much less), I think they'll do well.
I also use emacs -nw on my netbook. Its faster than the graphical emacs and, if you turn off the menus, its a quiet minimalist experience.
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How do I know what I should eat and what I should feed to my mother-in-law?

I haven't seen this point addressed, neither in the article nor in this discussion. But does it sound to anyone else like he is implying that he wants to live but would like to poison his mother-in-law? (I know it's cliche, but the phrasing sounded odd to me. Maybe it was intended humorously.)
"One case in mind was for the new movie Avatar, we were able to give promotional items to the owner of twitter.com/avtr for Coke Zero"

The nerve of some people. OK, maybe "avtr" is not all that great, but to think that they'll give you some useless plastic crap (or poisonous coke) and then proceed to make their millions. It just shows how the big corps think about the "normal" people - they are just sheep, or "consumers" as they are called these days.
Maybe. But I am sure that if records show that a product is delayed, then the customer service rep should have a bit of leeway to make the customer happy.
Well, obviously anyone can sue anyone for anything. That doesn't make it anything other than an absolute no-hoper of a case. For a threat to sue to have any effect at all it has to be at least somewhat credible. And if you disagree with that, pay me $1000 or I'll sue you! ;-)
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That's funny, I wonder who is emerging, him or the media. ;)
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> That doesn't make it anything other than an absolute no-hoper of a case

Errm. No, sorry. I wished that was true but it really isn't.

If you are a corporation suing another corporation for trademark infringement on something as silly as what is essentially a path name then you can only lose, even if you win. After all, both parties can expect to pay a solid amount of money to their lawyers, and only in rare exceptions will you be able to recover that.

The monetary loss due to the lawsuit could only be offset by an unknown quantity of PR backlash in case you give in too early.

But lose you will. So by suing, even if the one party 'has no case' there is a fair chance the other one will call it a day and give in.

Simply because it isn't worth $50K to $100K or thereabouts to facebook to stand by this one individual user.

On the one hand I don't blame facebook, on the other I think they are underestimating the $value of that PR backlash.

If facebook is lucky some of the PR flak will be directed at Harman International and they will reconsider their stupid request.

Facebook is between a rock and a hard place on this one. On the one hand a company that has a legitimate (even if it is a stretch) reason to sue, which will cost them money, on the other hand their users who will all feel their vanity urls are going to be given to the highest bidder or the one with the largest legal department.

Neither is good.

Facebook giving in this quickly is definitely a losing proposition to them, they should have said, 'ok, this user may be infringing, but since that is not proven in a court of law you will have to get a ruling, and then we will yank the account but you can not have it'.

By rolling over like this and potentially giving harman international the url they have clearly crossed a bunch of lines.
Often it's the people that refuse to compromise that make the world a better place. Do you think Martin Luther King should have compromised on his vision of racial equality?

Whilst the civil rights movement is obviously far more important than the free software movement, the idea that ideals should not be compromised is at the core of both. Unlike, say, the BSD license, the GPL is a license that allows for no compromise. If you want to distribute modifications, you must also distribute the source. It's this ideology that made the more pragmatic open-source movement possible in the first place.
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Email as a username has its advantages and it has its drawbacks:

- drawbacks

- spam

- they change

- they get hacked, which in turn means your accounts have been hacked

- advantages

- easy to remember

- immediate conduit to your user

- automatic recovery built in (see drawbacks)

- built in verification of identity (somewhat) of user

It's a tough choice. We used to use email addresses but of late we have switched to simply allowing people to pick a unique nickname.

The deciding factor was the fact that more and more people perceive giving their email address to a service as a serious barrier to participation.
> Dvorak favours the right hand by 14% (QWERTY favours left by 15%). Dvorak has more uniform finger usage and makes greater use of the pinky (18% vs QWERTY's 10%).

I find that writing code, my right pinky is by far the most overworked finger, on account of the ; ' " [ ] { } - _ = and + characters, and especially the return key which you hit all the time in code but only once per paragraph in prose. So now I can shake off this nagging feeling that I should look into Dvorak. Thanks.
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Your tone is a bit incorrect for the particular situation. But whatever makes you happy. Just give me back my $5, I'll buy myself a beer this evening at a bar.
looks like the function language part of the cola framework: http://piumarta.com/software/cola/coke.html

Example with discussion on LtU:
http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/2796
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> Isn't the whole point of math that you expect at
> some point to analyze the result of the symbol
> manipulation and "read off" an interpretable
> meaning from the answer?

I've responded to this at greater length here:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1071734

You are absolutely right when it comes to the application of existing math, but in Pure Math that doesn't turn out to be the case.
"I'm really sorry you feel that way. Of course if you want your money back we have no problem refunding your 5 dollars."

Wow, this comes across as bitter and nasty. How about:

"I am really sorry you feel that way let us refund your money," or the like. Seriously. Your previous comment is such bad business just based on how demeaning it comes across. Better yet:

"I am really sorry you feel that way let us refund your money. However, we've developed some great premium features that you may be interested in; and of course our the main features are free. Can we convince you otherwise?"
This was prompted by the discussion here:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1070604

It's not really finished, and it's certainly not complete, but I thought it would give you something to think about. It's not necessarily mainstream, and it may turn out that I don't believe it all myself, but I hope it's interesting.
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+1, that is an interesting article. I read he dropped the OLPC because it allowed running Windows on it. He expects the OLPC to turn millions of children into Windows users, and compares Windows to an addictive drug, and Microsoft to a drugs dealer supplying kids with a cheap first 'fix'. Also, Windows will not run on his Lemote laptop.
How is Richard Stallman refusing to use a webbrowser making the world a better place? :/ It's just taking ideals to extremes for the sake of it.
I think it’s a useful concept. Let me try to convince you of that: nearly everything we do requires corporations. A human alone cannot possibly get his opinions heard without help from other humans. In the end we really need corporations. We might to often have that wrong picture in our minds when thinking of freedom of speech, of the noble thinker, alone in his room, writing down his opinion and the government anxious to shut him down. That’s probably not how it ever worked.

You need a publisher, you need an ISP. The government might very well grant you freedom of speech. If they can limit the rights of corporations however they damn well please that freedom of speech is not worth very much.

Corporations are how humans do stuff. Corporations are important. Corporations have to be protected from the government.
No, the article is addressing a different claim about Dvorak from the one sjs made. (Article: Can one type faster on a Dvorak than a QWERTY keyboard? sjs: Is typing on a Dvorak keyboard easier on the wrists and fingers than typing on a QWERTY keyboard?)

For what it's worth, I've heard a lot of anecdotal claims that Dvorak is better in terms of pain, and scarcely anyone claiming it's better for speed. This might, of course, be because the main thing that makes someone switch from QWERTY to Dvorak is that they've started having pain and are searching for something that might stop it.
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Nitpick: It's 'Lua', not 'LUA'. (It's Portuguese for "moon", and its predecessor was called 'Sol'.)

While I too prefer C+Lua, Schemes that compiler to C are another option. Chicken Scheme (http://www.call-with-current-continuation.org/) is quite good. Gambit (http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~gambit/) is also popular, though I have less experience with it.
This was a good read. I wish the author had gone a little bit further and spoke about how many reals there are compared to the rationals, continuum hypothesis, etc.

Although his point about riddles and puzzles is very true I think mathematics is very much a natural science.
> I wish the author had gone a little bit further and
> spoke about how many reals there are compared to the
> rationals, continuum hypothesis, etc.

OK, later this weekend.
There was a recent HN post on this topic that garnered a lot of discussion:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1070780

This new blog-post from Robert O'Callahan (one of the Mozilla developers who worked on the <video> element) explains Mozilla's position much better than anyone in the HN thread did, touching on things like patent licensing, using GStreamer, and idealism.
The reason the phone company can't use your phone number the minute you cancel your contract is so that there will not be a large number of people dialing that number and getting someone else than the one they expect.

Last time I took out a phone contract, I spent the first few months fielding debt collectors, university tutors and various other people looking for the number's last owner.
Programmer Dvorak puts the brackets on other keys, and the +, = and * keys front-and-center. It's more hassle to set up but it murders QWERTY for coding. Except cut and paste, which still sucks.
I don't see any evidence that he is crazy.
It's probably for speed and battery life. Whatever works for you.
That might have worked IF:

Startups could have bought them. It was very hard to buy Sun hardware in the quantities between what you could put on a credit card and the equivalent of a mainframe installation. A lot of people who wanted to buy Sun ended up buying Dell servers and that deprived Sun of the sales they would have made for the companies that were big hits.

They had kept their hardware configurations consistent. A number of big customers dropped them because they kept changing things like the management interface, Ethernet chip (Intel to nVidia chipset), etc. Sometimes their SATA device driver support was less than stellar (I saw this as someone who wanted to run Solaris in the 2007-8 period on a Tyan motherboard that Sun OEMed) and I have to wonder about other device drivers (Sun wasn't all that good at fixing serious bugs).

Unconnected, but devastating: they burned a tremendous amount of credibility in enterprise server space when they had a flaky cache problem and required their customers to sign an NDA before they would get service ... and then tended to blame the customer for server room environment problems. A different attitude was needed if they wanted sustained success in this place, which for them developed very quickly after they bought that SMP Sparc system from SGI.

One bottom line is just too many failures to execute.
..they have an independent right to existence.; mathematical structures are not invented, they are discovered.

How far does that carry? What about algorithms? Do they also have have an independent right to existence? Can you invent an algorithm at all or do you in fact discover it?
See my comment about how Sun made it impossible for a start up to buy a moderate quantity of these servers. People were willing to buy Sun quality but ended up buying Dell because Dell wanted to do business with them, which then lost them the follow on sales for those who made it big.
I'd really like to find some research on people that were proficient with Dvorak first and then were asked to learn QWERTY. I suspect the take-up (even for those desperately wanting to be different) would be lower! There's quite a cost to re-learning how to type, so let's not discount that some people still think it's worth it.

Personally, I did it because a couple of my mates were still happy with it after a year and it started making sense on day 1, before any Big Magic kicked in :)
Oh don't be silly, "real people"? Richard Stallman is as real as it gets. He's a decent programmer from what I can tell from emacs.

Note that there is a distinction between open source and free software. I think it's important to not conflate the two, which I see a lot these days (in the real world :)

I predict 500 years from now people will remember him. They won't remember Bill Gates. Without googling try to recall who was the richest man in Rome?

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You're right. I have to agree with you on that. And I may haven't been clear enough, about what my problem is with awarding personhood to corporations.

I think that you can't judge corporations the way you can judge humans. You have to apply a different "personhood" to a company, since corporations are not natural. They don't consist of what a human being consists, but of what human beings contributed to that consistence.
Wakemate is really handling this situation poorly. Yes, delays due to hardware are a good reason. But introducing pay-for features as compensation for those delays is not.

It seems that this is a classic case of engineers doing bizdev. Those two have virtually no overlap. For example, "I'm really sorry you feel this way" is the equivalent of "quit whining" and you should never say that to anyone unless you actually mean "quit whining".

Bizdev is hard. I got bitten by it hard when I started my company. Nowadays, each mail me and colleagues send get meticulously checked by the others, and any bullshitting gets taken out. I think they would do good to do something similar. Let me know how it works ;-)
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I doubt you need an experiment to do that. With enough people around you saying "yes sir", and some success in what you are trying to do, the mind can easily rationalise these things.
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