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It's most definitely not peculiar to the iPad, and I don't think my statement assumes that. I also don't think it's relevant whether people who do understand the limitations care or not, nor was I assuming that. Once you understand the limitations, you can choose to ignore them and buy the device. A lot of people will do this. Hell I even might! And that's perfectly fine.

But your last point is a good one. And I think it gets to the crux of a lot of the hysteria over this being a "closed system." A lot of consumers aren't very savvy when it comes to complicated electronics. Maybe that's their fault? I don't know. But something in me says it's partially Apple's responsibility to educate people about the devices they sell through proper marketing.

If Apple markets this ethically they won't mislead people into thinking this is a general-purpose computer. Because if people perceive this as a general-purpose computer, they will be sorely disappointed in a lot of ways when they get it home.

So It doesn't have to be entirely the manufacturer's fault if I make an uninformed choice, but I'd argue that it is partially the manufacturer's responsibility to educate me.
Jim Gray lost at sea, 3 years ago.
I would work on some landing page optimization. For example the Join our Beta, which I am assuming is your call to action right now should be on the left side of the page and above your stats bar. Also, the first big text the user sees should be you main value point, at this point the first big text doesn't even include the word Flash or Game.
"The only thing that's missing is the ability to sell "icons" on the app store that merely subscribe one to a web app and stick the link on their home screen."

The thing that is really missing is iTunes accounts, i.e., the ability for your prospective users to pay you with the touch of a button and a password. Although, on a larger display, Amazon payments and Google Checkout will be more relevant.
A lot of his rhetoric seems to based on communism. That is, he sees classes as distinct entities acting with intent. That is a Marxist-like approach to history, at least. I'm not that familiar with Zinn, but I don't think he tended to propose solutions, manifestos or such.
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That is probably due to the increase in testosterone level.
I completely agree. I find that especially older people simply do not understand computers or even the concept of multi-tasking. The iPad has been getting flack because it is basically just an iPhone and can't run multiple apps at once. Yet the problem I see is that a lot of non-tech people don't really seem to understand the idea of running multiple programs at once. To them the iPhone style of opening an app, using it, closing it, and then opening it to see it in the state that it was in when you closed it makes more sense. As long as app launching is kept extremely fast, almost instantaneous, it is no inconvenience either.

This is just one small example of the way the iPhone / Apple techniques seem to work well for people because they are simple and easy to use.
I would argue that their pay rate isn't high enough because of what we're learning about head injuries. I still love watching football though.
I've got to admit, the board game idea for the ipad is pretty cool. In general, though, I'm not convinced I see the game market for the ipad being as large as it is on the iphone. A phone is in your pocket when you're on the bus, in the waiting room, or in the bathroom (you know you do it). These are perfect opportunities to pull out the device and play a game for a few minutes. I don't see people having as quick of access to the ipad or planning to bring it somewhere just to game on.

That being said, I'm guessing we can assume that the next flash sdk's ability to build for iPhone will extend to the iPad, in which case the games floodgates are going to open regardless.
I find it telling that both Canadians and Australians (on this board at least) are hesitant to invest in their own countries; which seem to outsiders as stable economies . The global economic crisis has truly reduced confidence everywhere.
Synopsis: Allow the top three octets of client address to be sent along with the query so the resolvers can try to suggest "closer" answers while preserving some anonymity.

Thoughts: Your resolver, or the DNS server you speak to will need to be updated to add a new RR for this. The ultimate authority will need to do something sane with it. Caching will be complicated if you have clients in multiple locations.
What I think is funny, is that Apple has tried to encourage people to be their own content generators with things like iMovie, GarageBand, etc. People can't do those things with the iPad. The iPad (for the most part) relegates the user to just being a consumer.

In general though there will need to be an 'open' Mac for a number of things: audio editing, video editing, photo/video storage (I have 40Gb+ of photos and I only have a little point-and-shoot), photo editing, 3D modeling (for movies/design/engineering, etc.

This is not the death of the general purpose computer. Think of the number of amateur photographers out there, enabled by software like Photoshop/Aperture/LightRoom and the afford-ability/accessibility of DSLRs. Think of the number of people editing their own videos and/or music out there? They can't do this on an iPad. Granted, these people aren't a majority of the population, but there are a significant amount of younger people that are adopting these hobbies because they are so accessible now (thanks to the general purpose desktop computer).
True, but it doesn't mean that he "challenged the status quo", unless by that you mean he wrote the same stuff as everybody else but in an easier-to-read format. The credit Zinn gets for being some sort of maverick attacking a standard view of history is... well, he wasn't. History's complex and often not very nice, as most historians will be happy to tell you, and American history is no exception.
Proving once again that even academic Marxists can't neglect their marketing.
I agree, I just choose to enjoy the presentation of clojure and ignore the conclusion. :)
The important thing to remember here: there will always need to be a platform to run your IDE on to develop the closed-platform apps. Even In a completely locked-down world, the platform SDK has to be running on something.
iTunes does this and the games are actually captivating to watch in 15-20 minutes of the best plays. Don't look away or you'll miss something. They also use the audio from the radio commentators, which is usually a lot better than the tv commentators.
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I bet it seemed like a lot more than that to Brett Favre, last Sunday evening.

The beauty of Football (I've only really followed the game for about a year now, coming from a place where soccer & basketball are the major sports) is that these short bursts of action are extremely concentrated, physically and mentally. The game may seem simple, but when you see the plays explained later on it's incredible how many variables go into each move.

BTW, one thing I think is unique to the NFL are these clips where they actually put a mic on a player for the duration of the game. Haven't seen it in any other sport yet, pretty cool:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx#orderBy:allTim...
Seems like a great way to ensure that the entrepreneurs making the next great web app support your device really well.

One unique selling point of both the iPod and iPad is their status as mobile internet access points. Cementing that status and encouraging entrepreneurs to pay attention with great web APIs seems like a natural way to extend Apple's developer base.

If I was addicted to some great web app and learned that it had a nice iPhone interface when I was on the move, I would be incentivised to invest in an iPhone.
You can do that now effectively.

Many apps today use a base webapp that can be changed at any time and a thin iphone shell over top of it. And change the app all the time. And don't get any problems from apple.

Also in app purchase would be fairly easy to integrate with a webapp json api and an an iphone app wrapper to handle purchasing.
Specifically rugby union, rugby league is a pretty stop. go. stop. go. but not as bad as American footy.

I don't really like any footy and i'm not from NZ but just about any All Blacks game is worth a watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsXTa7UCGlk
So you're suggesting the separation of the editorial and peer-review services from the publishing service?
When Apple starts paying off legislators and bribing judges to outlaw the possession of Linux- and Windows-based PCs, you'll have a point. I don't see that happening, do you? Nobody is forcing you to live in Leave It to Beaver-land; you're just bitching because your cable company added an oldies channel that carries it.
In addition to the five minutes of action, you're not counting: watching film, practice, training, off-season conditioning, and showing up for the job.
As long as Apple doesn't do anything to harm alternative platforms I admire their determination to provide the most elegant, usable, consumer devices possible. I want the most usable device possible and I'm willing to accept some limitations to get it. It's a choice that's just as valid as buying the most hardcore Linux/OSS device you can find because you want the maximum flexibility and freedom.
You can't have more than one forward pass. You can pass sideways or backwards as much as you'd like, but there's little point doing so.
I don't understand how a camera above the screen on this thing is even usable. Are you supposed to grab the tablet by its sides and aim it at you photo target? The tablet seems large enough to make such an operation unwieldy. Not to mention the need to somehow press a button to actually snap the shot in addition to using both hands to hold the thing....
I think that's the key point - this is a great "computer for dummies". A machine your grandparents could use.

I don't need an iPad in the same way I don't need a car with built-in radar to help me reverse. But there are plenty of people who do need that help. I'm happy for the choice to be there, just as long as I can still buy an open machine. Personally, I don't see Apple giving up on that area.
you are not scraping directly...you are taking 3rd party abstracts of publisher content and using them against the publishers. this is actually even worse than scraping directly because there is no way to opt out of Mahalo "borrowing" a publisher's content without the publisher also blocking Google from indexing it.

keep in mind all of your content is creative commons licensed...so if you keep up your scrape and nofollow attribution game, you are going to be in for some surprises where you feel the effects of what you are doing onto others.

your choice...either fix the nofollow anti-attribution issue yourself or have the market fix it for you.
Eh, I thought it was funny :D

Most of my friends are not in the software industry; they're busy Googling how to operate their AOL subscription, not the nitty gritty of JVM internals.
Say what?

I pay AU$10/100MB (about US$9) for prepaid (no contract) mobile data
Yeah, Steve Jobs is a genius -- he says it's $1,000 and then you're not shocked that the minimum configuration costs nearly twice as much as a netbook.
This is silly. If my employer is paying me for the time I spend actually physically pressing each key while I code, I guess I'm making probably 100x my stated hourly wage. Why does that matter? Oh, it doesn't.
I agree with all of that.

But even if for no reason other than a dislike of Apple, there will be people who don't want one of these. There will be competition.

Anyone here on hacker news that is worried about an Apple monopoly in the future because of this should get to work on competing in whichever area they are able, be it the hardware, software, or business side of things.
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The thing is: Why not just sell this device as the next generation iMac? It could have had a sweet stand, a wireless keyboard, a remote, etc. Set the base price at $599. Heck, Jobs could have demoed it as a desktop, then grabbed it and unveiled all the Tablet features. (Of course, you still sell a version without the peripherals). But it seems to me many of the complaints come from an anchoring bias. If this were introduced as a desktop that you could easily (very easily) travel with, what would the complaints be? That it's not really a desktop? That would be the point! And at the price point, wouldn't they start to take business away from Dell and HP? Instead, now it seems like a luxury item where this could easily be an inexpensive family computer for doing homework, research, coach surfing, etc. Why does the marketing seem off?
I think there is some collective head-in-the-sand in the geek community because what people apparently want is not at all like what geeks want.

I had an epiphany (albeit a minor one) when thinking about this problem. I asked myself, "Why do I have such a problem with Apple's closed app store?" The conclusion I reached is that a core part of my geek personality involves resisting authority figures that I didn't choose, whether it's manifest through running Linux instead of Windows or starting my own company instead of pursuing a traditional career. I suspect that, to an enterprising and independent geek, accepting Apple's way is like giving up the fight for independence from unwanted authority figures.
I think it's cooler that in Rugby broadcasts they actually have a mic on the referee for the entire match.
I imagine multi-touch will be natural and integral enough that people will forego the mouse altogether. Although, I suppose a magic mouse might fit the bill (haven't used one yet).
No necessarily. It could also mean they see it as a loss leader, driving more iPhone/Touch/iPad sales. So they will not directly profit from these stores, just like they don't make much money from selling music.
Thats like saying that olympic powerlifters work for 3 minutes every 4 years.
People have been calling for a front-facing camera on the iPhone, and one was rumored (among other things) to be on the iPad, but I really don't see the point. The only real use seems to be video chat, but who want's to hold the damn thing steady for video chat?
Huh? I just took Apple's logic and applied it to an extreme. I didn't say that the extreme example applies to the real world.

You have to scale down the extreme example to fit it into the real world. The 'universe/world' here the equivalent of the 'iPad/iPhone.' Trying to claim that I'm really saying that Apple is controlling the world is either disingenuous or the result of an ill-fitting tinfoil hat.
I don't believe it matters. Sales is about first impressions and results. Coupling a beautiful presentation piece with a great product that brings results and you're golden.

I can see myself ordering a few of these for my sales people, what my startup does would look great on one of these screens...
Doesn't put me off one bit, and I'd imagine that the number of people who'd (A) actually understand the issues you're complaining about and (B) actually agree with you enough to stop buying from Apple is nowhere near enough to make a dent in any product they release.

(I'll probably still wait for the second-generation version, though, just like I did with the iPhone)
That's a specious argument, since Peyton Manning has to be there all day, even through he's only running around and throwing the ball for 5 minutes. (And probably spending another 5 minutes calling the play and communicating it to his teammates.)
If you think it's so bad then don't buy it. As long as you continue to buy Apple products you are supporting their policies.
no ones forcing you to use Apple products. You're free to use Windows/Linux/Nexus one/etc.

:-)
It seems to work for women, too, for what it's worth.
This is why I prefer to watch soccer. You consistently get about 90 minutes of action without commercials. I know when I sit down to watch a game that I'll be wasting no more then 110 mins (halftime included) of my life.
I don't think you can easily compare a $250 netbook to the iPad. Lower quality screen, heavier, thicker, significantly less battery life, no multi-touch, lower build quality, and of course weaker software. They may serve some of the same purposes but I don't think they're directly comparable.
Microsoft are evil because, well, pick one of a 1000 cases where they have chosen the evil option. From lying about their products, destroying good companies, stifling competition, driving up the costs of PCs, forcing propreitary formats, Internet explorer, etc...

Google are evil becuase they gather large amounts of data about us, and us it for various purposes including targetting ads.

Apple are evil for DRM abuses they used to use on their music store, and they still use on their devices, like the iPhone/Touch. They could make things easier.

All depends on how you look at it.
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Ah, true. However, non-standard browsers can theoretically be supported by passing through a Flash plug-in: http://github.com/gimite/web-socket-js

I suppose the ideal scenario is a backend which is capable of supporting both Comet and WS, depending on the browser capabilities.
The real evil I see with Apple is the App Store. It's very anti-competitive. Since you can only sell ipod/ipad applications through their store, they own a monopoly on it.
This is problematic because it's a model that will never
allow any competition. If I wanted to start a store that takes only a 5% or 10% commission of every ipod/ipad application sale, I am unable to do this.

Apple is preventing me from selling other people's software more competitively than they can. Imagine if Walmart told all video game manufacturers that they were no longer allowed to distribute through any other channel besides Walmart.
The really important question, does it run linux?
really? I've always found that if I do anything but the forefoot style I find myself needlessly in pain. On the other hand, I guess most folks are ok with some level of pain unrelated to muscle soreness as a consequence of the endorphin high being so positive for them?
Heh, I didn't think of that! For $50 cross-grade price I might just go for it too.

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That's an audience shot from the official Apple.com keynote video.

Leo flipped his macbook around to shoot live Skype video with the webcam. The only problem is you can see what's being recorded right on the screen. He says Steve kept giving him evil looks.
Amazing off-topic trivia: the etymology of "football" has nothing to do with kicking the ball, it's actually about how the game is played on foot (rather than horseback, like polo).
I don't think Apple is the one pushing DRM, they aren't idiots. Apple's hand was forced in the fact that they had to compromise with the record labels. I'm sure Apple would prefer to sell DRM-free tracks, considering it would simplify the user experience. The record industry is responsible for DRM.
It is hard to tell either way until the engineers in a startup have created the "infringing" technology and it is well established in the marketplace.
The elephant in the room is that no matter how much Douglas Crockford apologizes for it and tries to brush the fact aside, JavaScript the language, the browser DOMs, HTML, and CSS make an absolutely terrible platform on which to develop large, complex, and well performing desktop-style apps.

I can't be the only one who thinks this, and it seems like Google is the only one to have any success at all in doing this on a large scale.
>The iPad is barely more portable than a laptop, and much less functional.

How many users actually use all the functionality?

My sister bought a 15" MacBook Pro for Xmas. She checks work e-mail via Outlook Web Access, occasionally works with MS Office documents for the office, uses an IM client, YouTube, browses the web for vacation ideas/planning, iTunes, iPhoto and... that's it. Not a luddite. Quite savvy and bright. Only 30. Yet that's all she does with a $1700 laptop.

Granted, you could do the same with a netbook, however, the iPad has nothing to really "mess up". There's not much to configure. There's not much updating. It's instant on. It has better battery life. For her intents and purposes, it does 95% of what she wants. I can say this for my parents, and either most of my friends, or their spouses.

For these types of users the lack of a full-blown OS is actually an advantage. There's nothing "to mess up". There's very few things to configure. No boot times. Longer battery life. Easier to carry around. Cheaper than a conventional laptop or desktop. Can be always online (WiFi or 3G). Presumably a very simple "restore" or factory default reset process. I would also assume you could get a MobileMe account and have all your data backed up in a data center somewhere for easy restore.

I, personally, am not sold on the device. I already have an iPhone, and I have different computing needs as a developer. However I won't ignore the fact that it'll cut the mustard for a large number of users as an "occasional" computer, if not a primary computing device.
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Video chat. Just like the front facing camera on laptops.
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Even presenting site designs to two people at a small table, I will use a 24" LCD rather than a 15" laptop screen because the laptop is a bit too small. The iPad could be passed around, sure, but outside of showing someone something while standing around, I don't think this will be a killer application for it.
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I think Google is harming Net Neutrality, it expands the last mile problem to the several last miles. This will led to more 'This video is not available in your country' shit.

I somehow wish IPv6 allocation is hashed, all neighboring IP are randomly unrelated.
The basement hacker still runs into trouble when they try to translate their cool technology into a viable startup and cannot source funding.

It is hard to find funding when you are immobilised in a minefield.
When the pitcher steps on the rubber would be a better starting point for the start of the play. Many plays don't even involve a pitch, and wouldn't be counted in your definition.
So what I hear you saying is that if your employer knew how much time you spend on the clock actually physically masturbating to Hacker News, you might have to take a pay cut. Did I get that right?
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