skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Apparently, we're speaking Lojban here, not English, so therefore I'm not allowed to use figures of speech as they may be evaluated pedantically by those who wish to win an argument in bad faith.

But fine, you wanted numbers. First, systemd's LoC count is 699,342 across 1,912 files as of a git clone of their SCM[1] and gitstats five minutes ago.

That number was around 550,000 back in May[2], so kindly update your knowledge before regurgitating it mindlessly.

Debian's (sid) sysvinit package[3], by the same methodology, is 32,151 lines across 235 files.

Systemd is therefore about 22x (21.75179621162639) more complicated than sysv.

I'd go run the numbers for Upstart, but I'm not going to go download bzr and appropriate profiling tool to conclusively prove something that's common knowledge to anyone not in an internet argument.

And kindly stop complaining about downvotes - it's against the site rules.

[1]:http://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/systemd/systemd.git

[2]:http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY5NjM

[3]:https://anonscm.debian.org/git/collab-maint/sysvinit.git
> I expect that, for a broader population, a better question would be around the size of their "emergency fund."

Which other studies have revealed is "basically $0". This question is highly correlated with what you are referring to for the average American. You're just in a bubble so you don't see the relation because it's not related for you.

That's ok, but what I'm pointing out is that it's not "essentially meaningless" and dismissing it as such is actually being out-of-touch.
Ask HN: Implications of ES6 Module Loading, JSPM and System.js
I have a question about the direction things are headed vis a vis javascript (and by extension, all front-end) resource loading. I've been developing a web framework that preloads most resources such as fonts and libraries with the exception of some images/media. Looking at the technologies listed in the subject, it appears that web applications in the future (and maybe this is already more common than I realize) will "weave together their components as they execute". My question is, how strong is this trend? Do I need to dump my "first load everything, then excecute application code" mentality?
Thanks for the correction. The only analysis I have found is this blog post from someone at Opera (Published: 2014-04-07, Updated: 2015-08-26). Do you know when the "Default Browser Helper" plug-in is instantiated? It was shipped in OS X 10.9, so it may no longer be relevant.

https://www.aeyoun.com/technote/default-browser-plugin.html
Here is the important 2 lines of code.

response = urlopen('https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=' + search)
command = 'youtube-dl --extract-audio --audio-format mp3 --audio-quality 0 ' + video_link

Amazing how useful of a tool you can make with such little code. There is really some great libraries available today.
Huh, that explains some things. I never really noticed it. I had a few friends I already knew in Seattle that were very welcoming. On the other hand, when I'm out walking and wandering around by myself, I don't get a sense a hostile or coldness to people. If anything, I felt that I fit in better in Seattle than when I lived in Atlanta. I've met a lot of interesting people from different walks of life -- artists, yes, and engineers, and street folks. Some hipsters, some hippies, some yuppies. I really enjoyed the diversity.

I was wondering why Seattle did not have as vibrant of a tech meetup community as Atlanta. I chalked it up to that, in Atlanta, everyone has to drive to get to the meetup. But now I see, it might be something else.

I'm not sure about bonding and making friendships with people with mutual dislike for one company or another. It's in my experience, those affiliations makes for good acquaintances. But friends? A friend is someone who, if I knocked on their door at 3AM and said I need help, they might be cranky, but they'll let me in. A friend is someone who, if I get a call from them saying they need me to bail them out of jail, I'd do it.

People who are proud of hating Amazon, or upset that I am neutral about it -- I think I will just walk away. That's one of the shadow sides I notice, living in Capitol Hill back in year of 2013: people are aggressively politically-correct, many are passionate about liberal stance, or being tolerant of people. It's a big contrast from living in Atlanta.
Uh, right. I don't think so.

I'm sure it went like this:

"Now, I'm not telling you to do anything illegal, but if you don't pass those emissions standards on the next deadline, you're fired."

At each level down the chain.

I actually saw this in action at a big company subcontracting division to two younger employees (one male and one female): "We need that contract. Period. Your expense account on this unlimited and unaudited. Make sure you go pull enough cash that you don't have to put anything embarrassing to the company on the card. I'm not telling you to do anything illegal, but if you don't close that contract, you don't have a job Monday. Anyhow, make sure the client has a good time this weekend. See you Monday. Maybe."

They closed the contract. No one asked what it took. I left that job post haste.
FAA Backs Ban on Shipping Lithium Batteries on Commercial Airlines
Dear package, give Git tags to your versions
Announcing Weave Scope 'Cloud': hosted Docker visualisation early access program
I'd like to echo these comments. Seems like a great tool, just needs to express it's utility to the user more clearly.
Pity the comments are largely the usual moronic and entirely non-technical nonsense that infests the topic at HN.

I'd think I and others have been trying to inject some reasonable commentary. Any objections, or are we out on a political vendetta as is usual with systemd?
It's anecdote-vs-anecdote, but I use Uber often in the Bay Area and have never experienced nor heard of this.

If a driver ever asked this of me I would give them a bad rating along with an explanation. I'd expect the driver to get canned pretty quickly if passengers report such behavior and passenger reputation to be restored if the drivers gave them 1-star ratings. As far as I understand it, driver reputation is far more important than passenger reputation (they certainly have a lot more to lose).
100% agree. That is why it has been successful. The magnitude would certainly be less if the cost was more because demand is elastic, but head to head with cabs they would dominate at the same price. It is an efficient way to manage resources and just a great thing.

"Breaking Laws" is maybe a bit strong, as regulation is extremely bulky and a monolithic unequippted government isn't in the position to adapt. The laws vary on every level but what I think it comes down to, in a society that teies to be democratic, is whether people are comfortable with this existing. It seems they are.
Agree, it's phenomenally unlikely, but then again there is a part of me which could actually imagine Apple doing something like it. They wouldn't use Tor, of course, they'd build a proprietary equivalent, and then come out on a black stage to 'introduce Apple Undercover, a revolutionary enhancement to personal network privacy and security'.
Am I the only one who likes systemd?

No more problems with overflowing logfiles, no more debugging undocumented shell scripts for booting, no more writing init scripts, no more debugging undocumented 200+ line init scripts, no more minute-long boot delays, no more brittle, half-assed distribution-specific networking solutions (also undocumented shell scripts), ...

For me as sysadmin, systemd solved a lot of long-standing problems, while so far introducing no new ones.
1. and 2. are OK points, but your point 3. is atrocious. In my opinion, destructive behavior isn't really a legitimate form of protest, and as rubidium wrote, you'd be hurting people who are innocent in all this.
Official API support would be nice. We need to query repos for specific tags. we're using the unofficial API currently, but having our cd pipeline rely on that does not feel right.
None of my friends or relatives has been killed by a police officer and even at this stage of my life I still have that "fuck the police" mindset.

I'll explain.

Ever since I was about 15 years old, police have treated me like a suspect. I have been stopped, patted down, searched and generally harassed in the vast majority of my interactions with police.

On one occasion, I was walking from a friend's house back to mine and I watched a cop do a u-turn in the middle of a highway to pull up and start questioning me. I have been pulled over because it "looked like the air in your rear passenger tire is low" and I had two units behind me with cops peeking into my car while they ran my information.

Just about six months ago I was pulled over for "excessive lane changing". I asked the officer if he saw that I changed lanes to get around someone who was turning and that I had to return to that lane because approximately a quarter of a mile later, I was going to making my own turn. He responded that he had been following me for a few miles and I had made other lane changes. I was on my way home from work and I had things to do. I signaled before every lane change and I did nothing dangerous or reckless. It was a pretextual stop.

About two years ago, I was stopped while riding my bicycle. The officer who stopped me is someone that I have known since elementary school. When he saw that it was me, his demeanor was nice and friendly. I can only imagine how he would have acted if I had been a stranger.

In every one of those encounters, had I reached too quickly for my wallet, I would have likely ended up dead.

My experiences are not unique and these are not the worst. A lot of the black, brown and increasingly poor white guys with whom I grew up have had similar things happen.

The point that I'm trying to make here is that the antipathy that police officers experience is primarily of their own making.
Since this discussion turned into a conversation over semantics and investing, I'm curious to see if there are any trends in HN readership. I expect some people won't feel comfortable commenting about this so I created a poll:

What is your NET worth?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10355745
> I have a master degree in computer science from a university in Chicago and i can tell you that most of these courses can be learned by yourself.

Is there any skill in the planet that cannot be learned by yourself, given enough time?

Now, if you do have the self-discipline to learn everything, at the same level, without a teacher supervising and pointing out the mistakes you didn't even know you had made, congratulations.

In that case, though, why wouldn't you enroll anyway? It's like a self-signed certificate. You may have a valid one, but having someone else to validate gives it more credibility.
Not sure it is actually a permission so much as a feature of Google Now.

Paragraph 2 of this page:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/10/android-6-0-marshmall...
Most people, including the authors of systemd would be very surprised if there were no problems with systemd.

Here's a couple of fun problems from years past.

Docs say NoNewPrivileges as yes "prohibits UID changes of any kind", but that's not exactly true.

It's spammed so much debug info the system fails to boot.

"systemd, when updating file permissions, allows local users to change the permissions and SELinux security contexts for arbitrary files via a symlink attack on unspecified files."

"The rm_rf_children function in util.c in the systemd-logind login manager in systemd before 44, when logging out, allows local users to delete arbitrary files via a symlink attack on unspecified files, related to "particular records related with user session."

It's complex software running on many different kernels, and many different distributions, doing many different things with lots of code written in C. There were over 80 people mentioned as contributing to the last release. Of course there are going to be problems!
I would not consider going over their frontend assets and request headers anything close to picking apart their technical setup though. For anyone a little more knowledgeable that post is just a collection of random facts about the apps visible front-end.
Yep. In the last several years, I've only ever carried cash on two types of occasion: fairs and trips out of town.

If I'm in town and not attending a fair, I don't have cash on me. Period.
>Finite state automations, Fourier transforms, dynamic programming, formal grammars, graph theory.. are not something I could be able to casually pick up with just high school knowledge and fumbling around

Was no real problem for me. (Though not 'casually' as I head to read up quiet a bit).
There's a lot of randomness in what gets traction on HN, so sometimes a story needs to be posted a few times before it does. So we don't consider reposts to be duplicates until the story has had significant attention on HN (see
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html).

One downside is that the original submitter of a story doesn't always end up with the karma for it.
Cash has great privacy, works at cash only places, small merchants are happy to receive it because it means no fees, you get a discount when buying gas, the aforementioned tipping (good luck giving the valet a credit card!), it works when the power is out and a lot more I'm sure. Cash is pretty great. Even if you don't carry it you should definitely keep some at home.
I don't know what country you live in - but in the US it's pretty clear on the court's stance on scraping [1]. I'm not saying I agree with it - but that is the legal precedent.

> Although these are early scraping decisions, and the theories of liability are not uniform, it is difficult to ignore a pattern emerging that the courts are prepared to protect proprietary content on commercial sites from uses which are undesirable to the owners of such sites.

Straight from the youtube TOS [2]:

> Content is provided to you AS IS. You may access Content for your information and personal use solely as intended through the provided functionality of the Service and as permitted under these Terms of Service. You shall not download any Content unless you see a “download” or similar link displayed by YouTube on the Service for that Content. You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display, sell, license, or otherwise exploit any Content for any other purposes without the prior written consent of YouTube or the respective licensors of the Content. YouTube and its licensors reserve all rights not expressly granted in and to the Service and the Content.

It's apparent the RIAA that is also against it [3]. If you ask the RIAA - they will most likely say you did not purchase a legal copy of it - so therefore you shouldn't own a digital copy of it. Thus making it piracy.

It appears my original stance got lost - I'm not saying I agree with it - but these are the cold hard facts.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_scraping#Legal_issues

[2] https://www.youtube.com/t/terms

[3] https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110208/01511613004/is-do...
This is the state of ISP regulation in the US, providers willfully manipulating the payload they have been paid to transport.

I think a ISP that manipulates data beyond what is necessary for transport should lose it's immunity and associated privileges.
What is Enkodal? Google only turned up a few German pages that didn't seem to translate well.

From the article:
“After World War II, the Americans who captured Morell translated the word ‘Eukodal’ as ‘Enkodal.’ They thought it was a legitimate medical treatment and dosage.”
Show HN: Livestream 90sec moments and see friends facial expressions in realtime
The articles says that "The responses are representative of the U.S. internet population, with a margin of error within 1.70 percent." They don't give us any information I could use to refute that assertion. So with that, we can assume that the people who reported <$1000 savings were not people with diversified portfolios or people who voluntarily eschew savings accounts because the interest rate is not profitable for them. It's astounding what a bubble this communitiy lives in that it could forget that most of the country doesn't have a bunch of money lying to around to invest.
Making Pinterest into a strong source of traffic that will convert
Well he doesn't claim to live frugally, he claims to live an over the top lifestyle of fabulous wealth and luxury.
Hey - author of that post here. I can't tell for sure what the stack is by looking at its output, but judging by common experience in the LinkedIn profiles of the engineers, it looks most likely that it's Scala.
This is the missing piece for a yoeman generator I've been working on: https://github.com/zbyte64/generator-batteries

The issue I bumped into is getting /api to talk to /auth; OP recommends making them talk over RPC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gummiboot_(software) now called systemd-boot
I guess that doesn't make sense to me. I thought one of the bedrock principles of these types of services was a situation where you knew a bit about the person (reputation) that you were transporting.

Additionaly, nothing is to prevent a driver from keeping a small amount of cash on their person and then stashing the rest periodically in a hidden safe. So yes they might lose $50 or $100 vs. not getting tips. Even if they don't get tips a person could assume they had some cash on them.

The point of the small amount of cash is twofold. One it's a small amount so if you lose it not that big of a deal. But it's also enough that if you got robbed you could give something to the robber. So they don't harm you or beat you thinking there is more somewhere. [1] This is similar to the old rule of leaving a small amount of cash in your cash register at a store and leaving the register open. That way someone comes in, takes the cash, and in theory has less of a reason to trash your store.

[1] Of course you could store more of the money where you can find it to satisfy them if the $100 wasn't enough and if you felt your life depended on it. Kind of a honey pot in a way.
The Alameda-Weehawken Burrito Tunnel (2007)
You're making an awful lot of assumptions there.

>those couple of software engineers would have to have a major say over the entire engine design. I call bullshit.

The two people they're mainly talking about are head of R&D group and engine development. Yeah I'd imagine they have major say over engine design.
Yeah, I tend to agree. Driving for Lyft/UberX seems like it only makes sense if your car was worth buying and having for reasons other than to give rides through a TNC.

This -- along with Uber's car financing plan -- really raises my "ick" factor in that they seem to be taking advantage of those who don't see the full expense or risk that they're taking on, and it may end up similar to the GM situation: "we're a finance company that happens to give rides too".
What is the lesson to be learned? Is drug use correlated with high-performance?

"People felt like they always wanted to: splendid, completely calm, clearheaded; it was a golden feeling." That sounds good! I'd like that...

All I've seen in drug users is wreckage and death. Maybe I haven't seen the whole picture. Is there an upside to drug use? If there was a safe performance pill maybe I would try it.
It would also make their phones seem bizarrely slow which is not very Apple like.
A lot of this came about because of the "war" on the 3rd party cookie which was unfairly demonized.

I get why zombie cookies are bad as it takes control away, but what is the issue surrounding plain tracking of behaviours? So what if a company knows the history of sites you've visited - what does this do against you?
List of killings by law enforcement officers in the United States: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_killings_by_law_enforc...
> That would be asinine.

No, absolutely not. That would mark a real position, and maintain a competitive advantage for Mozilla in enterprise environments (where browsers are used for more than playing games and watching videos, and plugins are not substituted from one day to the other).

Apart from that there is nothing wrong with npapi. It's about how it is used, how stable the plugin is, and how trustworthy the vendor of a plugin is. The risks that are involved are the same as for any software, mostly less with sandboxed plugins.

I think, taking away NPAPI is taking away a piece of freedom from the user - the freedom to use plugins. And freedom is just what Mozilla was standing for, a long time. Instead of taking away NPAPI, they should implement a mechanism for trusted plugins, e.g. to load/execute them only when they are cert signed.
Serious questions:

Have you taken the time to examine how a Linux system that uses a replacement for sysvrc written in the last ten years actually handles startup? Or what services people who aren't running a RedHat distro actually run on their Linux servers?

Or have you simply either taken the systemd folks at their word about the "sorry state" of sysvrc replacements, or -perhaps- glanced at a >10 line startup script and recoiled in horror?
Me too. I've been waiting since https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7536375

He could always go into hardware.
Be the Cockroach
Me too! But my problem is slightly different. I'm learning Spanish and would like to watch Spanish movies with Spanish subtitles to improve my understanding.

In Kodi player, I can connect to subtitles sites and have it automatically downloaded. Why don't you do allow it? I know that it is a muddy copyright terrain, but would be a Good Thing for more advanced users.
Loving the product demo. Easy and clear to use instructions even for non tech-savvy users.
Unfortunately the supplemental poverty measure doesn't actually measure poverty, just inequality. The definition is:

The 33rd percentile of expenditures on food, clothing, shelter, and utilities (FCSU) of consumer units with exactly two children multiplied by 1.2

http://www.census.gov/hhes/povmeas/methodology/supplemental/...

So if you were to reduce the income of everyone from the 34th percentile downward to exactly $1.24/day you'd actually reduce supplemental poverty.
I've never understood the problem with that question. It's been a normal thing to talk about everywhere I've ever been. Work is a defining feature of one's life, the single activity people spend more time on than any other; what's wrong with asking about it when you want to get to know someone?
Comcast is so bad, a startup was created to deal with their reps for you
Do you plan on supporting JVM based languages?
Facebook: I want out
Even in that unlikely scenario they'd still have access to most of their money, it'd feel pretty bad to have to sell into a 10% loss but it's not the end of the world if it's a true emergency scenario. That's also a manageable risk that you can avoid with well diversified investments.
> What do you tell the cluelessly naive good guy engineer about his results? Would he really only test the car under test conditions? Does any engineer with even the slightest grain of curiosity test only the one mode that he's supposed to?

While I agree with the rest of your posts, I can't let this one slide. This happens ALL THE TIME. I have to beat engineers senseless over this on a regular basis.

"Just because it passed one test, one time, does not mean you are done. It has to do something sane even when the rest of the world is coming flaming down around it. Crashing could be the sane thing to do; logging could be the sane thing to do; returning very obviously insane values is non-ideal, but might be your only option. A couple of safety checks are warranted."