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You don't have much recent experience with actual four-year-olds, do you?
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Are you seriously implying that it is the responsibility of Western countries to provide and create jobs for southeast Asians?
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There are more than 50 engineers working to support WhatsApp. A complete count should include all of the work that was out-sourced, such as engineers at AWS (or whomever is supplying the computing), the engineers for Erlang, etc. If the government builds a bridge by using a construction company, no one says the government is capable of building a bridge with zero engineers.

The app is still a remarkable achievement. Those engineers have done a remarkable job integrating everything (plus their own business logic on top), but they are also leveraging a great deal of work done by others.
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From a Dallas News article, Ahmed said “He said, ‘It looks like a movie bomb to me.’” FTA it's unclear who "he" is. I think it's the principal.
GDP per capita is higher in Chile and has 2-3x the growth Poland has.
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Yes it is quite strange (and annoying) but you get used to it.
I picked up a bundle off craigslist from some 20-something guy a while ago, and a fair few of them have "Deb" scrawled on the cover and on some labels. All of the Deb albums are in great condition, some with the plastic wrap still on, slit to slide the record out, no dust, no scratches. I don't know who Deb is or was, but my thanks to her for taking care of her records!
fascinating. But you could look at cover art and remember when you bought each album with CDs.
Compilers have been always pretty easy to beat. IIRC, Turbo Pascal time inline assembler could beat the compiler in tight loops 3-10x pretty easily. In things like sprite engines and texture mapping.
Wow, I would not have thought Russia and China to be comparable in size. Yes, Russia is still bigger than China, but nowhere near as giant as the map makes it appear.
I think you overestimate the intelligence of the authority in this particular case. I think this is more a case of collective stupidity than authority turning people to mindless sheep.

What worried me is where is the engineering teacher he first showed the clock to? He or she could've clarified everything in 5 seconds.
For something like this, "I never imagined the authorities could possibly be this stupid" ought to be an affirmative defense.
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> On the other hand, doing the taxes was not at all complicated and I got proper help

Tax collection is relentless and very efficient - they act is if it was THEIR money. France can borrow at very little interest rate because it is known that it will repay its debts, it can collect the money for it.
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Because it's a person making something, authority denying him that for stupid reasons, etc. It has all the elements of something that appeals to hackers (in the "maker" sense).

But seriously, if you have to ask you will never know. This is more of a "you get it or not" thing, related to how HN's targeted demographic feels on such issues.
The almighty dollar is here to stay strong in coming years, Euro might eventually or deserve to be less than dollar value
But the article also mentions the naked mole rat, which is about the size of a mouse but lives ten times longer, and Brandt's bat, which weighs as much as a sugar cube but lives 40 years.
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France is lucrative mostly to french native speakers, who have quite a massive phobia when they have to speak any other language rather than their own. It looks ridiculous and shameful, especially when noone cares about speaking it outside french bubble. The language had it's prime time long time ago and now it's a mere curiosity. Not the prettiest nor easiest one to learn either. Then there is amazing countryside, but that's hardly big enough motivation alone to move in or stay.

Some french work really hard, I think their effectiveness at work is above EU average. But they are socialists at their core - meaning all nice social benefits on one side, but massive inefficiency on the other, on all levels of government. In theory, there is no good reason why French should earn much less compared to say Germans. In reality, the difference is HUGE and there are good reasons for it. Market says it all :)
Really nice. The only thing I would change is to remove the "smooth" drag. It just makes it feel like it is lagging behind. Just stick it to my mouse.
I believe it is. Being rich and powerful means you'll most likely want to remain such. You would act in the best of your own interest. Ageing has been the absolute guarantee that even the worst of human beings (dictators, criminals with a lot of power) will eventually lose their power thus stop damaging society as a whole.
Of course the reaction to this is completely insane but what's even sillier is that they're continuing to assume that real threats would be things that they can see. If someone wanted to blow up a building they could hide a bomb in a backpack among hundreds of others and never show it to anyone.

It's the same crap they pull at the airport where you must throw out your bottled water; and then their solution is to toss this bottle, which was classified a minute ago as a serious threat, into a pile of other unverified "threats" in the middle of a densely-populated area of the airport. How this kind of thing has gone YEARS without any serious backslash is amazing to me.

It is so out of hand. While certainly bad things have happened and could happen, statistically modern society is pretty safe and we all have to stop being so damn scared of every little thing.
That is some impressive JS. Well written and organized.
How can they think that the clock was a bomb when it is ticking up rather than down.
right. But why is that not the case with CDs? why not buy CDs instead of vinyl ? CDs have cover art, special features, etc.
If the school and the police had acted in the correct way this would be no big deal. Hey, we have a device here that could be a bomb. Police show up, call bomb specialist. Bomb specialist laughs in a few peoples faces, the school apologizes, the kid keeps tinkering.

But no they had to go and dig in. Which makes this really wrong on their part. I hate it when organizations take a stance around stupidity.
that's exactly what I came here to post. I find it even more troubling that the teacher was clearly aware of this possible outcome - going so far as to tell the kid to hide it from other teachers. but for all we know maybe he did speak up and was shushed by administration? who knows...pretty frustrating either way.
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I guess he realizes how lucky he is, that he had not had his soldering gun on him. He would have been shot on sight. /not sure if sarcastic, sadly.

And back in the day we played with sodium, benzene, nitroglycerin, nitrogen triodide as part of the curriculum.

With the way current students are treated - the surprising thing about pupils going postal, is that so few of them are.

On the other hand that is a great way to incubate terrorists. Local and organic.
This isn't a "whole new level" of ignorance. If you think so, then you probably don't understand how stupid a significant portion of the population is. There are people out there who think that Google, Facebook, so on, are actually on their computer. It makes complete sense that some people think a bomb looks like some caricature envisioned for the audience's benefit in a movie or TV show. Many people's entire lives revolve around motion picture entertainment of some sort.
Sure, it's not just the Euro actually. The dollar and the British pound are strong against almost all currencies now.
Great list. How about teacher Julie Amero, whose browser was apparently hijacked, possibly while students used it while she was out of the room resulting in students seeing nudity briefly and uninentionally [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecticut_v._Amero
QOTD from dallas news article: http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dall...

"He’s vowed never to take an invention to school again.” what a place of learning!
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I am wondering about using Chile as another example - as far as I know they have public healthcare?
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It's unfortunate that students are encouraged to report 'suspicious' things, but not 'exceptional'. Only bad things can come of it, never good.
Apparently the authorities have determined that the best way to stop terrorism is to discourage any manifestation of personal intelligence

It's a Texas thing not a US, or that what I hope the case to be.
>Yup. Sure do. I consider life extension a potentially important part of that.

Living longer has NOTHING to do with a better quality of life.

The person who had a good life in the early 1800's in central Europe would have been really pissed to have stayed around long enough to live during the depression and WWII in the next century.

> I do. I've been hopeless in the face of death since I was 19. You may want to sit down for this next revelation, but... not everyone thinks like you.

Really? You ever been treated for depression? Maybe you should ask your Doctor about it...

Sorry, if I am being harsh but your original comment and followup comment are very troubling to me.

Life extension is BS. Build a better, self-sustaining world for all first, then we can talk about living longer for individuals.
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Probably not the whole story in this case. It seems improbable that little Johnny McFreckles III would have encountered as much trouble over his clock project.
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> Stupidity does not adequately explain why they are considering bringing charges

No but embarrassment may explain quite a lot of it.
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agreed. But why Vinyl vs CDs ? I mean, listening to the whole album is just as good with CDs or better ?
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Not to mention politics. Its ugly to lose this many people and job creation and protection is often encouraged by the government via incentive programs. If HP opened an office in some state and got a shit-ton of tax incentive and federal job creation credits, well, those pay off for a while. After those expire then its safe to cut these people. Or use the threat of cuts to get more credits. If these negotiations fail, then a big cut happens.

Big companies don't really operate by simple supply vs demand laws. They play a much more complex game and many large businesses have long figured that gaming the system is just as profitable as actually shipping product.
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Which does actually apply in this case:
http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/txstatutes/PE/10/46/46.08

They need to show intent. They cannot just show that others were in fear.

So it seems like they don't have a legitimate case, although "the ride" is often used to get guilty pleas out of otherwise innocent people (i.e. they would lock the kid up pending trial, delay trial, the parents may not be able to afford lawyer fees, so he might plead down to a lesser charge to get out even if the original charge is complete nonsense).

That is pretty standard fare for the US legal system these days. 95% plea rates, 7 minutes of public defender time on average per client, and so on and so forth.
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Fellow french here. I left France last year officially to finish my studies, unofficially to launch my startup. Where? In Estonia:

- 250€ for the rent in a shared flat, everything included (winter time, so more 200€ the rest of the year) 10min by feet from the city center, in the most vibrant district.

- Free public transportation (but Tallinn being a human-sized city, it doesn't really matter).

- I incorporated and activated my bank account from my couch.

- Bureaucracy is close to non-existent here. When there is some, it's online (I was advised to register our trademark online by the councelor I was having a meeting with, we were in his office. His words: "it's simpler online").

- Offices are extremely affordable, the tech scene is small but really active and friendly (much like the rest of Estonia, you end up knowing everyone here: think Kevin Bacon degrees on steroids).

Estonia has drawbacks of course, just like every other country but far less than France in my book.

Don't get me wrong, I love France, but being a lucky european citizen, I decided to move abroad as I don't want to have to go physically somewhere to get a stamp, or send out 10 documents everytime I need to apply / get something (be it ID, passport, transportation card, renting a new flat, etc): I already have a work! :)
The discovery has been covered extensively elsewhere. The politics, and particularly the fight over credit for the find, was something I wasn't aware of.

It's definitely not what you'd expect from Buzzfeed.
While occasionally happening on a good article, to be fair, there is a lot of junk on Medium. So much so that I often choose to skip Medium articles posted on hacker news because my experience is they are very often quickly written shallow junk.
That's how it should go, in an ideal world. I think the engineering teacher did the right thing in suggesting he not show it off, given society today. He's aware of racial profiling in a post 9/11 world and how stupid some people are.
Once authority figures make a decision, they fear backing down from it, because they (unfortunately often correctly) believe that doubling down will force the far less well-funded citizen to fold, usually in exchange for a less severe "punishment."
Very good article. The strong economy in the USA will help boost the value of US dollars.
It seems more like some kind of quiet collective insanity to me.
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There was also the MIT student with an LED shirt that walked into an airport wearing it.

http://boingboing.net/2007/09/21/mit-student-arrested.html
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/06/03/mit_stu...

I'm pretty sure the apology was for a more lenient sentence.
The National Guard is as equipped to kill as any element of the regular military. NG units have served in combat roles in pick-a-conflict-in-recent-memory.

That's just the US, of course. Pick a natural disaster anywhere in the world - the military(or militaries) of the region are the first to respond and form the basis of the relief efforts thereafter.
Thanks for the link.. :)
I'd love to send this kid a gift certificate for some free waterjet and laser cutting. Does anyone know how to get in touch with the family?
Wow. Never read that explanation. Explains all of audiophilia, and most other 'philias.

Mine's better because it's (slightly) different than yours.
With a few exceptions, French employers are not the problem, they do pay the same price for you as in other European countries, more or less !
The difference is that your average engineer in France costs them around 1.5-2.5 times the total take home pay, because of high, compulsory labor taxes.

In exchange, employees get as standard :

* a top notch, virtually free healthcare system with no concept of exclusions or "pre-conditions"

* Usually no student loans to repay because their higher education was free, unless they went for a private business/engineering school but that's still an order of magnitude cheaper than a US university.

* a comfortable (unsustainable ?) state pension later on.

* unemployment insurance that covers around 70% pay for months.

* 5 weeks holiday + public holidays

If you're US-based, think about your monthly budget and what goes towards healthcare/co-pay, student loans, kids college fund, 401k, and building an emergency fund in case you get laid off / severely ill. None of that is strictly required in France (although some of it is available as extra private coverage, and a good idea)

This is why cross-border salary comparisons are pointless, it's really apples & oranges.

I'm French and living in London, and I'd personally rather have the freedom to have a higher take-home pay and contribute towards the above items myself as I see fit.
But I'm not fooling myself thinking that because my take-home pay is twice as high each month, the math is as simple as that. I know that I'm so much more on my own here than at home...
It's not about VAT, but about the new VAT rules in the EU particularly for non-physical goods. The problem is not the VAT amount, but that small companies potentially have to deal with all the finance offices (and special rulings) of all EU countries. That is ridiculous!
In short: Spin and TLA+ are "push-button" mechanisms where computer are trying every possible trace of your system to check system state against supplied invariant.
Pros: You don't have to think much about your systems thin properties before verifying.
Cons: State space explosion so not every real system is a subject to such verification.

Coq,Agda: Manual/Semi-manual correctness proof of your system. You can reason about even "infinite" systems with this approach using relatively little computation resources. But to do so you have to gain a _deep_ insight about your system behaviour, computation semantics, network semantics (if distributed system is checked) and other properties. If you are lucky you can proof property under question, even it assumes very large moving parts. If not then you cant tell that this property can be proved at all. So these are more like platforms for quasi-manual deduction.

F* is trying to take up a niche between manual proof and quasi-automatic proof using SMT solver for those of theorems which can be proved this way. The problem is that SMT solvers are generally suck, there is no sound theory behind it, so it is more like guessing in my opinion.
"Sure, but I do expect that folks on my teams are spending about ⅓ of their lives—or 8 hours/day—working."
"Those who produce more quality features over less time are more valuable than those who produce fewer, more broken features over more time."

These two sentences directly contradict one another. If an employee is working 4 hour days and accomplishing more than their peers working 8 hour days, why do you expect them to spend 8 hours a day working—especially when you yourself have already said the former is more valuable?

In my experience, people who are able to get quality work done in shorter amounts of time typically produce lower-quality work when forced to work longer hours. Shouldn't you be encouraging this?
No, this is what happens when you have stupid police and school officials that are tough on everything. There are enough outrageous cases in the last year for students of a lot of different backgrounds.
you're, and he/she really isn't trying to rationalise it, just explain the thinking of the (stupid) people behind it.

I don't think anyone is arguing that the child in question is 4.
Networking is so important. Just be pleasant and easy to work with. I see so many young devs who get so involved in code related pissing matches, debating irrelavant crap in the work place, being arrogant and difficult. A lot of guys I never want to work with again.

True story, former employer had a lay off, the company I was at sent me an email with a list of everyone who had been laid off asking me (I was in good standing, and respected) who we should go after. You bet I black listed the jerks, and got the guys I considered to be good developers, and easy to work with.

Sure this was all my opinion and who am I anyway? But the point is: this stuff happens, and all you guys who think it doesn't are kidding yourselves.
See Columbine and the influx of 'zero tolerance'. I was actually in school to see the before and after, unfortunately, the after has become less tolerant and more reactionary and so we have what you see here (and really just about every day in the school year in the US you'll find a similar story).
> Anyone with half a brain

That's the problem right there. These people have let their common sense be overtaken by their sense of fear, they're so afraid they aren't thinking.

That's why going after a 9 year old or MIT student with a t-shirt[0] makes sense, because they literally aren't thinking straight because they're so convinced there is a threat around every corner (thanks mass media!).

[0] https://boingboing.net/2007/09/21/mit-student-arrested.html
What I want to hear more about is how they got those users in the first place. Supporting 900M users might be easier then acquiring 900M users.
Cool...

To be clear I didn't mean to imply that would happen. I was more interested in the psychology of it. And I thought the data would be fun to look at.

But thanks!
A lot of people have given advice. I like the one about striking out with his own team. He is going to be scared. If you can be there for him in some way it will be great. Do you have a job where you can be with him for 1 weekend a month? Just be there to talk things out, help him, be able to ask for advice (like here on HN) when neither of you have answers. Be his on-call. He absolutely has to do it soon/now for himself and family (healthcare). He has the clients which are always the toughest to get, but he has to start the process now (incorporation, etc).

I know you said you do not have the best relationship, but you recognize he is human. You have compassion. He is family. I want your Dad to succeed. I am sure others in this thread do too.