skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
The grsecurity brand is a registered trademark and spender has the right to control how it's used. If you ship a product with the official grsecurity patch applied, you get to say it uses a grsecurity kernel in your marketing. If you want to use anything but the latest official/test kernels, then you need to make it clear that it's not grsecurity (but rather your port) or pay official support with all of the backporting, auditing and testing that entails.

I'm working on an open-source product using my own port of PaX/grsecurity (as it needs to target an unsupported kernel) and I had no problem understanding and complying with spender's wishes about this.

These companies have to respect the GPL license, so they need to provide the users with the source code for their kernels.

> And exactly how much money has GRsecurity paid to the developers of the kernel they're patching? The unmitigated gall factor here is stronger than most of these kinds of rants that I've seen, because they're not even the upstream.

The grsecurity project respects the upstream trademark and licensing. In this case, they are one of the upstreams... they're not complaining about kernels not using their substantial amount of code.
> You're saying MITM the user's HTTP connection? I can't imagine how that would work with SSL?

The browser wouldn't think it's talking to bankofamerica.com. The browser would think it's talking to your sandstorm server. The user is willingly letting the grain MITM the connection so that the app can get their data out.

There would certainly be complications, though.
I understand that 'side of the problem'. Trust me, it's not that I don't comprehend the impact this has on innocent people, I do, and it's very unfortunate.

Where I differ, is in who I blame. It sounds like there is growing animosity toward the hackers, but that dumbfounds me. How could this hack have even transpired, if it weren't for the liars, and the cheaters, who funded this site? How could an innocent spouse be embarassed by their cheating wife, if their wife never cheated on them?

Let's not get confused. The hack, exposed a morally reprehensible act by many. Here's a contrived example, that might help illuminate my point -

Consider a corrupt police force in a city, where police are taking bribes, and working with organized crime, instead of helping the community. Should we shame a mole, who exposes the police force? If he does, the police will be out jobs, and will be exposed! Think about the families!

You can see where I'm going with this...
... what is how you want your app store to be?

The thing is a god damn nightmare to install, even for someone who is really trying and is savvy. So many god damn redirect loops.
Thanks for the response. I did amend my comment soon after I posted it, with the correct link to fivethirtyeight. It is highly relevant to the discussion at hand. The title is - "Bernie Sanders, you're no Barack Obama"
I bought my daughters Kindle Fire's for Christmas. It doesn't have the Google Play store. 99.99% of the apps available, either free or even paid, are cookie cutter, mass produced, generic garbage. Almost all the free apps were complete junk.

Besides that, the Kindle Fire is a fundamentally useless device for kids. The kid mode was so buggy as to be useless. Take more than a few minutes of video and the wifi won't work. Some bug about if the disk is full wifi fails to work. There's just about no way to get the videos off the device, and no way for kids to do it. Download 2 movies? The wifi stops working. Install an app? 80% of the time, it never shows up in the menu.

The entire experience was stunningly bad. Amazon's entire Android device category is garbage. People complain about the extensions to Android by Samsung, etc, but honestly at least those other companies don't fundamentally ruin the device.
Well, "free" means there is no consideration on the part of the party receiving what would be deemed as a gift. Looking at ads and having your data sold is not free by any means.
I believe the point is that by modifying their code and making use of unsupported versions that they are no longer using the product and therefore lose their right to use the trademark under those rules?
What is the need to defend-through-balance? Just because Y isn't perfect doesn't mean we shouldn't point out and hold to full accountability the faults of X.

X, here, being the Republican base which is, it seems, so much more radical than it has ever been before in my life. Y has all sorts of faults of their own, but there shouldn't be compulsion to hold it up as defense of X.
It can be done, and it actually works quite well. See this post for a demo + code: http://www.anishathalye.com/2015/02/07/an-asynchronous-shell...
> Still in the works is a high-end computer for the kitchen—code-named Kabinet—designed to serve as a hub for an Internet-connected home and capable of taking voice commands for tasks like ordering merchandise from Amazon.com.

Will this be a competitor to the Google router?
In this setup you just have to be careful to quit FF rather than close a specific window.
Have you thought about using an asynchronously rendered prompt?
Not sure why this is downvoted, it's a very interesting point.

Equity in a privately-held company has value in precisely the same abstract sense that money has value. Both are tokens of, and therefore exchangeable for, real work. Why else do people take equity as part of compensation?

I think what beambot is getting at here is the value of 'what you own' doesn't become any more or less real after you trade equity for money in a liquidity event. It's fundamentally just as abstract as it ever was, or will be.
So true.

We would consider OpenBSD if it ran on AWS and stably supported ZFS. (We use FreeBSD with PF and ZFS.)

"NIH syndrome" resulted in signify rather than using normal, proven tools like GPG which Debian-base distros use for package management.
ya know... my mother is a doctor, a Family Practitioner (FP). She's the type who's probably more frank with her patients than most. But she still would give slightly different advice to family than to patients. This is to manage risk of lawsuits, unreasonably angry patients, etc. It has to do with the balance of risk and blame. You can imagine the typical stuff - excessive tests, end-of-life decisions...
Wind River isn't using grsecurity. They're using their own variant / port of it and advertising it as grsecurity.

spender just wants them to say they have an "unofficial port of grsecurity" if they're unwilling to pay for it to be done properly (i.e. a well-done port, auditing of code specific to that kernel, backporting of all relevant fixes, etc.).
This reminds me of Hola.[0] Even if there's no risk of exploitation by developers, it's risky to freely share your uplink.

[0] http://www.dailydot.com/technology/hola-vpn-security/
> And exactly how much money has GRsecurity paid to the developers of the kernel they're patching?

They've donated a lot more mockery than money, I would think.

It's a good point.
Why FreeBSD should not adopt launchd
It is never as easy as that. Law of supply and demand is not a linear function and externalities count too. Also, most of the markets are somehow captive.

I doubt that people will drink much more milk because it is cheaper. What happens is that supermarkets don't care if they loose money with one product because what counts is the average of the basket. So what happens is that milk producers will pay the price of a marketing operation.
Previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10086021
Have we reached the point where comedy is the only way of dealing with this reality?
Every phone, tv, appliance and internet device says hi back. Also, bye.
FAQ Readers: A social experiment
One risk of using OpenBSD is a lot, but not quite enough, people use it on enough on random hardware and give actionable feedback to make it battle-tested, "Just Work" (TM).
No, the real reason Amazon is doing this is that they want to get the Amazon App Store onto Google and carrier branded Android phones. It's a fight for survival and relevance against Google Play.
More than half of students chasing dying careers, report warns
Amazon fires Fire phone engineers.... /s

TBH it sucks that the developers are the first ones to go , when it generally isnt their fault... it's bad product management/sales/strategy that caused the device to fail...
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Uh oh; Get ready for another large-scale DDoS from somewhere in the vicinity of China.
That defence of the "meaning" of the trademark is not up to you to decide, that's for the owners of Grsecurity.

Similarly, Google presents its derivative work as Android, and it exercises its rights vigorously to defend the perception of its marque.
Not really newsworthy until something interesting actually happens.
Preparing non-intrusive protection for fans in stadiums
> To be frank, the grsecurity folks and Brad in particular aren't exactly nice to others or trying the get stuff merged in the right way, so they don't get a lot of support from the kernel folks.

Linus "I am not a nice person, deal with it" Torvalds is upset because someone else is a ranty meany about him? Heaven forbid!
Probably a more-capable version of Amazon Echo.
I've never used Tinder -- do you have to give your real name and/or billing info to sign up with it?
Former Apple CEO John Sculley launches a line of stylish smartphones
It doesn't mean that at all. Free (gratis), by definition, means you don't have to pay for anything. You don't spend dollars. Watching TV is free. Using Google and Facebook are free. You download free apps from the app store. And those all have ads.

If you want to repurpose the word to mean "free with no ads" you can do that, but you can't expect others to hold to that definition.
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Very likely to happen if I've been streaming video for a long period of time (playing YouTube videos, especially long ones).
Palmer Luckey on AR
Spot on. The only differences are risk, liquidity, and fungibility. But the "money" aspect is fairly abstract up until you're actually trying to spend/exchange it.
I agree.

Mr. Wizard's experiments and explanations were so engrossing that he didn't need to rely on "fun" or "extreme" to be interesting.
How are 37 million private accounts, having nothing to do with you, your concern at all?

You brushed the consequences of this vigilante justice under the rug. Those Saudi Arabians will most likely suffer severe consequences, probably death, for being exposed.

The public is not a judge, jury or executioner, no matter how good it makes you feel to play morality police.

None of this excuses an irresponsible exposure of private information.
The Linux kernel wouldn't have features like ASLR, protected_{hardlinks,symlinks}, dmesg_restrict, kptr_restrict, ptrace_scope and lots more if not for PaX/grsecurity.

The fact that pipacs and spender no longer spend their time pushing stuff upstream doesn't mean that upstream doesn't benefit in a huge way from grsecurity via others like Kees Cook who are willing to deal with the politics.

grsecurity doesn't violate the Linux trademark or licensing. It's not a good point at all. You wonder why they don't contribute upstream directly? It has a lot to do with this entitled attitude.
Yep, myself and a friend and they had logs from one of our Undernet channels. Interesting to hear that it was somewhat commonplace. I hadn't heard any similar stories until the mid 00s and ours happened around 97 or 98.
Flanagan Rogue Reporter Posted GoProVideo of His Attack
In the old days we use to just call them cell phones. These days I just call it "my iPhone" or when I am referencing other people's phone, I just say "phone". If I am developing and talking about it in development context, then and only then do I reference mobile of any kind.
Is that it, just ads, or is the app also keeping an eye on the user?
"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
No need to wait! Amazon lowered the price to $130 today - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OC0USA6

It still comes with a year of Prime membership, so if you're a Prime customer anyway, it's essentially a $31 contract-free phone.

I wonder if it's an aggressive attempt to acquire some users, or if they've given up on the product and they're just getting rid of inventory?
Back when sex always entailed a chance of pregnancy, food was scarce, disease was a mystery, we lived in small tribes, etc. etc. many of these rules may well have made sense. Survival heuristics got encoded as religion, which was then horribly misinterpreted, and adhered to long past its point of utility. Now these rules aren't random, but they are pretty arbitrary.

Consider that our hangups about sex are tied to a sense of right and wrong that comes down to food scarcity (and other base needs, such as safety from predators) and reproductive rights. So we've got a bunch of people who treat sex as having moral significance owing to a survival/economic importance that no longer exists.

When sex first became disconnected from reproduction we had a "sexual revolution" where people tried to act as if the underlying rules and norms had changed overnight and there were horrible repercussions, but that's not because there's something intrinsically correct about our current (or recent past) sexual mores. Rape within marriage used to be just fine (indeed, it only became illegal throughout the US in 1993).
> What about the scores of people to whom cheating is a dealbreaker

What about the scores of people who have a blue car?
My understanding of the story was that YC was going to pass on Airbnb but then one of the cofounders mentioned the cereal box story and that changed PG's mind
Not prosecuting your own side after the end of the war is a good policy since you're trying to maximize your psychological potential of success at winning the war in the first place. The cloud hanging over your head at thinking you might get prosecuted for some necessary maneuver at a later date would be pretty discouraging. The distinction between necessary and unnecessary would be meaningless since it would be out of your hands. Basically, if you start a war of aggression, you have created a giant mess you can't control, so expect your people to be bombed and raped with no consequences to the victors. Winning is the most important thing in a war because it is literally us or them. There is no shared humanity to appeal to, that already went out the window. Being bombed or raped is the cost of engaging in aggressive war.
Well, maybe. But who knows for sure?

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/03/06/artists-steal/
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What you get when you search for “Guitar Tuner” on Bing
Dude, MickyD's hasn't even signed on yet.
"In essence, we were not building the phone for the customer—we were building it for Jeff"

http://www.fastcompany.com/3039887/under-fire
Most, but not all, companies generally don't donate any money to server OSes and open source they deploy by the hundreds of thousands. It sucks but it's the current state of affairs. (I think more FOSS should be be less free and monetized more in the context of large-scale enterprise purposes, in order to keep developers' bills paid and support quality up. The honor system doesn't work because most corporate choose to "cheat" where possible.)

If a project releases open source totally for free, it cannot realistically expect sponsorship to magically appear.

If a project needs sponsorship to keep the lights on, the we're closing up shop, unless ... routine works.

If a project prefers to become a commercial product with a freemium option, they should do such.

Otherwise, don't slave away on a project and resent what you cannot afford to give away. Just don't do it, if you can't live with it being exploited by companies for free.

Punishing everyone for the sin of a few rogue companies is the kindergarteners routine and childish. It doesn't work and it just angers people without solving the licensing issue at a core level.

PS: Perhaps grsecurity may want to instead consider a sensible noncommercial license similar to somewhere between AGPL and something like what good ol' evil Oracle would license their DBMS, i.e., companies over X employees or Y revenue need a license; hobbyists, academics and individual developers exempted. Drama resolved.
Still asks for a tv channel list, and that's the default page of the app.
Thunderbird's in "community" development now. It'll probably keep with XUL and XPCOM and all that garbage forever.
I'm saying it's impossible, especially across large populations, to assert that infidelity is wholly a private matter. It's a compelling notion that doesn't stand up to facts. Be sure to consider things like STD rates, unplanned pregnancy rates, rates of single parenthood, divorces resulting from infidelity, and so on.

I can assert that this data breach is immoral while also asserting that infidelity, especially organized infidelity, is not simply an intimate detail. I'm not sure why everyone feels compelled to square off into two camps on every issue.
NaCl, Pepper and PPAPI are never coming to Firefox, that's for certain.

But web plugins are fast becoming obsolete, so it hardly matters.
Build Angular from Scratch
That sounds disconcerting and distracting; I don't want my prompt to change while I'm typing a command. If I already have a command prompt, I can type "git status" easily enough.

Also, how would that work?
Ashley Madison hack: summary/overview
If interstitial ads were superior to the freemium model the market would already reflect that but it doesn't. The freemium model has just become a silly bogeyman in these discussions. Yes it can be abusive, yes it can be implemented horribly, just like any other pricing system. OTOH freemium is often best for both developers (differential pricing maximizes revenue) as well as users (rich whales are happy to pay, others are happy to be subsidized by them).
I wonder if the outcome would've been any different if they had not forked the n-1 version of Android and instead shipped something like a Moto G3 with stock Google stuff combined with Amazon customizations. With a cheap price, great customer service and timely updates it would've made a dent sooner or later.

After all who wants a phone without GMail, Chrome and GMaps? Amazon didn't do anything to compensate the lack - except for may be the Silk Browser which to me wasn't anything spectacularly good compared to Mobile Chrome.
"History is written by the winners" _unknown_
Yeah it would be nice if they actually said what the software does on the github or in the headline. At first I thought it was a browser or something. Here's the one liner though: "Lantern is an Internet proxy tool that lets you access blocked sites."
Indeed. I remember there was an article that said it wasn't even necessarily product management as it was Bezos who more or less governed the product design.

In any case, I find it a bit bizarre that they would just fire them when AWS is hiring so heavily. You would think they would just shuffle them to other parts of the org. While I was there we would get new people from other parts of Amazon that were downsizing all the time like Silk.
I got an email from Microsoft today with this kind of "letter". See https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CNSgnyfWEAAvd9J.jpg:large

I hope this doesn't become a trend, like using a picture of laminate flooring as a website background was a number of years back.
I don't know, but I'm glad we can still find amusement even in very dark things. Imagine a world that not only has Nineteen Eighty-Four'ish surveillance, but also lacks any humor.

Not to say I don't take this very seriously. And as much as humor is all but verboten on HN, I'm glad to see the occasional little kernel of comic exchange on here. It's a sign that we still possess our fundamental human nature.
$ mkfifo ~/.jobqueue
$ parallel :::: ~/.jobqueue

now, from another terminal:

echo ls > ~/.jobqueue

Tada!

for a remote job queue, use nc instead of a fifo

for a job queue with a buffer, use a file, and run
$ parallel :::: <(tail -f thefile)
you can even truncate the file from time to time.

Of course, this doesn't capture the context you are in, such as your current directory or the value of shell variables.
Yes, and in fact the title contradicts the main thesis of the article -- UX is a "trailing indicator", UX Team morale is a leading indicator.
Sounds like a good theory, but I thought average lifespans were quite low before modern civilisation.
I had to get a new phone and considered a fire-sale Fire Phone, but I figured that there would be no updates whatsoever.
Oh I thought it was a reference to the fact that the Sun's (about 8 light-minutes away) been doing fusion at stable rate due to it's enormous gravity this whole time. Maybe I misunderstand what is meant by gravitic containment?
Why is this always the case?

I've been on a couple of projects that were complete flops, devs are always first to go. Meanwhile the idiots who actually wasted all the money and bloated the feature set start working on version "2.0".
You've made some pretty significant assumptions, and in your childish rage, almost missed my point entirely. For starters, to say I don't give a damn about privacy, couldn't be more wrong.

My point is about who to blame, for the negative impact on family members, spouses, children, etc. We shouldn't miss the mark. Blame the correct party.

The "shame" that family members incur from this hack, is due to the NATURE OF THE WEBSITE. It's an AFFAIR website, not a gardening forum. If the public information of a garden information site was hacked, then nobody would be complaining about the harm to family members.

Do I think hacks like this, and exposing private information, is good? NO. I'm saying that the negative impact on the innocent people, is entirely due to the deplorable nature of the site, and the individuals who registered on it.

And frankly, I'm not even arguing whether or not I disagree with cheating/infidelity. I'm merely saying, IF someone feels shame/hurt that their spouse is cheating, they should BLAME THEIR SPOUSE FOR CHEATING.
Virginia Shooter Caught via License Plate Reader Technology
Yep. I read this and thought, "oh, so.. PINE". Nope, not at all.
If they are getting out of phone, they don't need the phone engineers anymore, at least. They would be hard to re-purpose to other projects, even hardware ones (like IoT).