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Instead of trying to solve the problem with more software, have you thought about trying a people approach?

I know there are multiple moderators around; maybe it would be worthwhile to say who they are - and then when someone sees a race to the right margin, they can step in and gently remind that the thread is getting out of hand. I think the problems we have here are that people care too much, I don't think that anyone intends to be nasty.

While some comment threads have gotten a little ugly; I still think this place is head and shoulders over just about everywhere for community - personally I'm thankful that you've put this place together, ugly threads and all.

It seems like HN is transitioning from a community to a culture, and that's always going to be painful. It's easy to notice the bad things going on, but there have been a ton of really interesting things going on as well, it's just not as easy to pick those out because while everyone knows when someone is being an asshole, not everyone thinks the same things are interesting.
Consequently, measuring Y is a good proxy for measuring not only when high levels of X means high levels of Y, but also when high levels of Y means high levels of X. Next great search engine should take that into account.
You would be paying premium for baskets (as happens w/ anything that fits in a product. E.g. Ink cartridges, car parts) for the benefit of speeding "throw cloths in machine" wich usually takes 2seconds on my top feeding cleaner/dryer machine.

now, taking the clothes out and ironing them... I will still have to do w/out any change to the process
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Huh. Not impressed. One of my guys, who went on to be one of the ZFS guys, came from 3par. And they had the 3x3 test:

Gives a shit
Positive learning curve.
Not an asshole.

Make your candidates pass that and you're doing fine.
Dyson actually have a washing machine already:

http://www.dyson.com/insidedyson/article.asp?aID=cr01
I see what you are going for, but I don't see what you save in practice. I've heard of something similar with dishwashers, where rich folk will have multiple dishwashers and just move clean dishes to the dirty washer, never actually putting them away and saving time.

But in this case, if you leave the clothes in the baskets they just get wrinkled and look like crap. Rich people don't like to look like crap, so they still have to fold and put them away. So all it saves you is loading/unloading some clothes in and out of washes, and since highend machines are side loaders these days, it's pretty easy already.
These exist: e.g. http://www.lgwasherdryer.com/

The first time I'd ever seen one of these things was in Dubai at a hotel/apartment. I'm surprised they aren't proliferating through Asia given the limited amount of space but I figure give it time.

Incidentally, the cost on these washer dryer combo's aren't excessively high... in fact probably just a relatively small premium above what a good washer or dryer cost.
Maybe a 'jerk' flag? Something that wouldn't effect individual comments, but would aggregate. A user with a high number of jerk flags could be called into scrutiny and possibly be dealt with if he was abusing the site.

Another thought... What if we could filter out users who's comment we didn't want to read or we felt were offensive or a waste of time? This would reduce the noise for indivudual users without anything so draconian or subjective as flagging plus moderation.

Another less-pleasent thought is more aggressive banning policies. I remember being part of older BB-esque forums that managed to maintain strong communities by enlisting members as moderators and enforcing strict and clearly promulgated discussion policies. It worked because it was transparent and because the enforcers were active members of the community. They had reputations and interest in keeping the quality of discussions high and are bound by the same rules that apply to everyone else. If need be, their rullings could be appealed if they were abusing their authority. I always felt that that system worked.
The Idea is mostly have a machine that cleans and drys to save time. The whole multi basket idea is for storing dirty clothes -- not for storing clean clothes. Clean clothes would still need to be put away in drawers or hung up.
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The email update should work now if you log out, then back in again. That's a great idea about memorizing other things. Thanks, I'll see how that feature might integrate, while not making things confusing.
Mind. Blown.
no easy metric for obnoxiousness

Pick metrics you care about, and look at them instead then. Editing activity, likelihood of first edit, account signup, what have you. (This is on the if-a-tree-in-a-forest-makes-no-sound-who-cares-whether-it-fell-or-not theory.)

Alternatively, ask people questions like "What do you like most about Wiki?" 6 choices. "What do you like least about Wiki?" 6 choices, including ads.
I wonder what liability it opens up if someone does a show for a movie/tvshow and charges for it.

Indirectly profiting from infringement is different than directly profiting from it.
Nice, this is 95% of what I was looking for.
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> Yeah, I've noticed a decline in the tone of comments too. The site seems to be getting nastier. I occasionally find myself thinking lately that I just don't want to be here anymore.

Could the community help monitor the general tone of the site? It seems like keeping things civil is a hard task for you and the top users.

Could there be an automatic survey sent out each week or month to a random sample set of users to measure their overall satisfaction with the site and tone? It could even be just one question ("How would you rate the discourse on HN lately? Highly Civil, Civil, or Uncivil").

That way there would be a good objective gauge to see trends in tone and to monitor the impact of any changes like flags.

As the site continues to grow it gets more challenging to preserve the level of discussion. Having some long term measure of that might be helpful and make it easier to know when a new feature needs to be implemented.
a did a somewhat similar site a while ago: http://sanbit.com At the time, I couldn't find a suitable partner to work on it with me. I would like to continue working on it though. I had also applied to yc with this idea a year ago.
I would really like to see this. I'm inclined say it shouldn't have any relation to karma or killing, because there's nothing inherently wrong with meta-discussion, but the front page would be infinitely more pleasant to me if I could see "100 comments (90 meta)", instead of guessing if there were really 100 things to say about the article or if after the only 10 someone just hit a nerve with a downvote or a pointless "this isn't HN" snark and started something big and ugly.

I'd go so far as including a "meta" checkbox next to the reply button, defaulting to the parent's value, which it would be considered polite to set truthfully, but maybe that's just me.
So the original purpose of binding comment scores to karma was to _supplement_ the overall karma of a user? Not to be confounded as one of the core ideas behind the whole system?

Regardless of the original purpose, I think that fomenting conversation should be one of the most prominent ideas behind the whole karma deal. The comments and the conversations are what make HN different (and, of course, demographics, which consequently means that the comments of this given demographic, self-targeted, is what makes HN great), and I know many concur with that statement.
One was created by a friend with design skills. The other was created by a design professional with a portfolio of work for some pretty big companies (Chase, Polo etc.).
My time saving hack: Don't buy/wear white clothes. I have black socks, and no white shirts. I can do my laundry in one load. Saves me about 50 minutes from the eliminated load, plus any inefficiencies from waiting to switch the loads.

The biggest time-sink for me (and something I'd consider spending money to have removed) is folding/sorting/putting away the clothes. I have a bad habit of keeping clean clothes in the hamper and moving the dirty ones to the floor, just because I don't bother to spend the 15 minutes folding my clothes.
You mean "financially incentivize people to cheat", right?
Reddit's solution of hiding a thread once the top post went below a certain threshold seems to work pretty well. Then you have to go through two actions to downvote.
I like the lower one. The top one is too glossy/web 2.0. The bottom one is minimalist and stylish.
Gottman does seem to be a great relationships artisan/artist.

btw, heres a blurb on Asimovs Foundation series fictional character http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hari_Seldon,
the founder of mathematical psychology of masses, 'psychohistory'.
Those LG washer dryer combos are condensing dryers. Possibly energy saving, but also consumes water to dry the clothes. Pretty slick technique.

People living in deserts (Dubai excepted, SOCA included) probably don't want one.

http://www.lgwasherdryer.com/pdf/condensing_dryers.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clothes_dryer#Condenser_dryers
I love this smell. I've been fighting with the wife, who claimed it was from asphalt, and I knew it wasn't, since I've smelled it in the middle of nowhere. Turns out, she was actually pretty close, since it's hydrocarbon based.

Somebody should make a perfume based on this. It should be possible to extract the specific oils responsible.
I like the 3 dot one. Better conveys the idea of "for everyone". Cleaner too.
The simple one was done by the professional, wasn't it? I can tell by all the subtleties in the design. For example, each dot over each letter represents a person, if you pay attention. Also, because the letters are closed together, it means the people are holding hands, or, "together". It's definitely the work of someone with an eye for design.
on a pristine, practically undeveloped beach

In your grandfather's time - let's assume 50 years ago - living in such a place wouldn't even be comparable to now. Most likely no convenient place to buy groceries, poor communications, poor amenities generally. The value of that land is significantly improved now - not just because of evil moneygrabbing property owners like myself, but because it's significant better to live in remote places thanks to modern technology, so it's under heavier demand.

I could argue that in your grandfather's time, you could have bought land at bargain rates in Orlando or Las Vegas whereas now the prices suck.. but it's not comparing two compatible realities.
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It is no longer possible to be polite.
Don't want to respond yet, just in case it biases others' opinions.
I've always been able to smell something distinctive BEFORE it rains. Don't know what causes that, but I've always thought it was actually change in air pressure that my nose is misinterpreting as a smell.
Equally interesting that abalashov calls TC on using the completely unsubstantiated conjectures of a lone commenter on an internet news board as the basis on which to write an article.

abalshov's comment did no such thing. He only wanted some level of "privacy" that he expected to get from posting it on Hacker News instead of a high profile website like TC. That's why he jokingly expressed concerns about being found assassinated.
Believe it or not, the well educated and accomplished are generally happy where they are. The Mexican middle class does not emigrate.

Not all, but I bet a reasonable percentage would take the option. For example, the UK (hardly a poor country) alone had 400,000 emigrants in 2008 - I'd doubt that many were poor.
I think the Google gives the UK a lot more than just taxes.
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To the mysterious downmodder: according to Gartner, WebOS has 0.2% of the smartphone OS market. Nobody runs WebOS. Writing for it is a waste of time unless you think that will change.

http://gigaom.com/2009/11/12/palm-pre-sales-in-substantial-d...
I am 100% sure, it was a free sign-up. Do it once and forget about it.
Interesting idea, although I am not sure this is a big existing problem (it's convenient, but not by leaps).

I think the bigger problem that needs a solution is the steps that are needed after the washing, that still require manual labor: folding, hanging, or just flattening or simply flattening them as we lazy ones do. Since no matter how much you want everything to be wrinkle free, they never come out that way.

If I can have a fully automated ironing|hanging|folding machine, that would hit the sweet spot for a lot of folks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMnNHA_GrT8 there is that, but still requires you to lay the cloth flat (I want zero labor).
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That is interesting that they could not find a way to reduce the costs to an acceptable level. Especially since their products seem to be 2-3x more expensive as the next viable alternative.
I thought Chris Henry's fatal accident was the first test, but anyway...
Casually forgetting the income taxes paid by the employees, of course, though the millions paid in social security contributions (NICs) is mentioned almost as a footnote.

I'm a major fan of The Sunday Times, but I can't believe they went with a non-story whose only intention is to ruffle the feathers of the Times' high income demographic (who are getting taxed to death themselves). What Google's doing is, on the surface, fully compatible with EU tax law. Devolving most of our powers to the EU is the British government's fault, not Google's.
I soon learned that BASIC was an interpreted language (which is why I couldn't just run it at the command line)

Maybe the BASIC you used couldn't be entered from the command line, but you could type BASIC commands into the Commodore 64 directly, without having to write a program first, and they would be executed. This has nothing to do with it being interpreted or compiled.
Well, I suggested Webbynode in another comment. I think that, if by coincidence, the OP uses Ruby, he might want to take a look at Heorku. And the OP also asked what we used ;)
1) "Would rather give em cash" yes, all robberies end with that. I rather give the cash then go through the damages caused by the robbery.

2) The guy is semi smart with this: Fast break in, fast steal, got 6k worth of equipment, got out before anyone could get on scene.

3) Stupid: His plate is visible. Now I don't know if the image is good enough quality to see it. Which just goes to show, a half-assed survailance camera might be worthless to have other than deterrent.

4) The guy could have clipped wires. He could have caused damage to the computers which defeats the point of stealing them. However his method was fast.
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http://www.bristol.ac.uk/news/2007/5384.html made the rounds a while back.
Overall, the article was pretty good. I think the conclusion is right on (just get some enthusiastic developers and get to work).

The article made it seem (IMHO) that the different personalities were completely distinct. I'd have to disagree with that point, having majored in CS while at college, but I feel like I'm slightly more "blue collar" than "white collar". I think you can definitely have bits of both personalities. Just my 2 cents.
Why not two baskets (or hampers), one for clean, one for dirty? That makes it easier to take the dirty to the laundry.
I fail to see what Google has done wrong. Why wouldn't they place their European headquarters in a EU country with the lowest corporate taxes rates? Also, how does the UK have any more right to complain than France or Cyprus? This is just political grand-standing!
It's a perfect illustration of a time vs. space trade-off.
It's already being done. Megavideo basically does this. They seem to be doing OK (thus far).
Honestly, for me you just hit the nail on the head: real time information is almost always drivel. There will always be the exception here or there that justifies the existence of the technology, but for 99% of cases RT information is simply noise.
I'd be surprised if the professional company designed the upper logo. It has a home-made feel to it and the lower one looks more polished.
new one. much better. it's friendly. the old looks like it's filling up with water. too web 2.0'ish.
I'm surprised that the fact that it was the first robotic submersible to cross an ocean wasn't in the headline.

I have to say, the whole glider idea is pretty cool.
Only in relatively small areas that have other desirable properties - such as low crime, diverse populations, entertainment or culture.. such as swathes of western Europe, and blotches across the US with a focus on the coasts.

Housing is cheap and conveniently located for purpose in, say, Nebraska - and even the poor have easy access to nature. Same applies to the majority of the Canada, Africa, or Asia land masses.
I've been meaning to write a blog post about this, but here's a quick list (I've finally started to learn Japanese):

Human Japanese - basically an interactive textbook, with audio clips and interactive quizzes. Probably the best of the bunch.

Pocket Japanese - based on several series of podcasts, for different skill levels. Each lesson has a ~10min podcast, sentence by sentence breakdown, ~1-4min review track, vocabulary flashcards, and written grammar lesson. Interface can be a bit annoying, but the content and features are good.

iKana - for learning Hiragana and Katakana

AccelaStudy Japanese - for pure vocabulary cramming, very polished.

To the Lingt team - if an iPhone app isn't already on your roadmap, it definitely should be. It's a ridiculously convenient way to learn a language.
The 15 pg thesis (from 1899): http://arxiv.org/pdf/0803.3787v1
a) statistical significance?

b) average is probably not as good a measure as median, since I doubt it's normally distributed.
My bet is also that the simpler one was done by the professional.
However, experts believe that "petrichor" will not replace "October rain" as a term of endearment.
How about automatically hiding all child messages from the original post's page but show them on the message's page itself. As a naive observer trying to learn the norms, one could click on the message and see dissent.
I highly recommend watching this.
I really hope the simple one was done by the professional, but neither would surprise me.
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Cool idea, although I would like to see other languages supported. Currently it has C#, JavaScript, and PHP. To CodeRun's credit, these choices do span different takes on web development. I'd like to see some support for Perl and/or Ruby though.
Hah! I do everything the exact same way!

I'ce had several people ask me why I don't wear white/light colors and my answer is always "Because they are annoying to wash/keep clean."

Ditto for the hamper/floor organization method.
> its a police state where the people have no means of contesting acts and policies of some obscure gov branchs.

> right now im on the verge of moving to there, but im scared as shit of the random people dispearing for ties with terrorism

You almost got it right. You will be plagued by unaccountable bureaucrats who have the full power of the state behind them, but few of them are under the "fight terrorism" excuse.
It's pretty nice, although debugging/running was a bit slow.
I think it comes down more to tone of voice than the words themselves. Most people (including myself, often) have a strong verbal sense of politeness but are piss-poor when it comes to keeping the right tone of voice. Thus, "excuse me" gets a negative connotation because it's so often said with a noxious tone of voice.

On the other hand, people who are swearing are usually kidding around and know each other pretty well, so a phrase like "get the fuck out of here" is often what people say when they're joking.
We intended to make online communities (swarms) work more like real-life communities.

A user could belong to multiple swarms. People who don't feel like they belong in a swarm could leave (or be forcibly voted out by the group) and join another. When swarms get too big (above, say 150-200) they could splinter into smaller ones.

In practice, each swarm would have their own stories and comment threads. e.g. Swarm 'A' hates TechCrunch stories and always votes them down, Swarm 'B' feels that the people in Swarm 'A' are uncivil, Swarm 'C' just loves to make jokes about everything, Swarm 'D' is extremely priggish and has very strict rules about what types of stories should be posted.

A user could choose to experience the raw unfiltered site, or just stick to swarms where he or she mostly knows everyone else. We intended to use voting and tagging statistics to suggest swarms in which an unattached user might feel like they belong.

Dunbar's Number (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar%27s_number) was the inspiration.
And of course the only options ever presented in stories like these are more regulation and stricter enforcement. How about lowering tax rates to compete with Ireland?
It's not a record by far, but my thesis of 82 pages (8 pages front matter, 68 pages contents, 6 pages references) is definitely at the short end of the spectrum -- somewhere around 0.5th percentile for Oxford DPhil theses according to my search of Bodleian records.
> Most likely no convenient place to buy groceries, poor communications, poor amenities generally.

Incorrect on all points. We're not talking about a remote place. We're talking about a one hour drive from a major city.

Come off it. A spacious and fairly pristine spot on the beach was once affordable. Such a spot would now be worth millions because of overpopulation. There is no interesting twist to do with technology.

I'll also add the fish and crabs were plentiful, where now they are quite scarce.
Are you claiming that the Daily Mail doesn't accept media ads except from itself?

If a general circulation pub is willing to take govt ads but govt doesn't place them, it's fair to ask why.
Are you thinking of a smell with a kind of sharp, metallic or chemical odor, right before a heavy thunderstorm?

If memory serves me, that's due to the voltage between the storm and the ground turning O2 molecules into O3 (ozone), which gets spread around by the storm's winds.
New (lower) one is way better. Does anyone like the other one?
Same with the apple ii. I was looking for an emulator to prove my point and found this pretty nice one:

http://www.virtualapple.org/dungeonmasterdisk.html [fun game]

run this program, hit ctrl-c and type

print "hello world";

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It would be good to have hide/show thread buttons like on reddit. That way if you see a useless thread carrying on, you can just click [-] and move on to the next comment. This isn't a direct solution to the problem at hand, really, but I think it would help, as comment sections are getting longer and a bit harder to follow and sift for the good stuff.
I'm not sure what convenient means to you, but I'm thinking it means near jobs and culture.
How about adding a free form tagging field to the flag process? Don't show all tags on a post, just a given subset (most common and not blacklisted).
Maybe we can also get a nice flag for posts tediously and semi-hysterically grinding the same political axe over and over, and another for supposed discussions of science that, you know, don't actually contain any science.

Whatever. Flagged or not, one doubts the EchoChamber of Commerce News crew on what used to be "Hacker News" will do much more than upvote this kind of behavior.

After all, intellectual honesty is hardly as important as the bottom line.
Opportunity cost. Now that's the stuff.