fixed-price purchase options available in the leases could potentially provide benefits to us ; however , these benefits are not expected to be significant . we maintain and operate the assets based on contractual obligations within the lease arrangements , which set specific guidelines consistent within the railroad industry . as such , we have no control over activities that could materially impact the fair value of the leased assets . we do not hold the power to direct the activities of the vies and , therefore , do not control the ongoing activities that have a significant impact on the economic performance of the vies . additionally , we do not have the obligation to absorb losses of the vies or the right to receive benefits of the vies that could potentially be significant to the we are not considered to be the primary beneficiary and do not consolidate these vies because our actions and decisions do not have the most significant effect on the vie 2019s performance and our fixed-price purchase price options are not considered to be potentially significant to the vie 2019s . the future minimum lease payments associated with the vie leases totaled $ 3.6 billion as of december 31 , 2012 . 16 . leases we lease certain locomotives , freight cars , and other property . the consolidated statements of financial position as of december 31 , 2012 and 2011 included $ 2467 million , net of $ 966 million of accumulated depreciation , and $ 2458 million , net of $ 915 million of accumulated depreciation , respectively , for properties held under capital leases . a charge to income resulting from the depreciation for assets held under capital leases is included within depreciation expense in our consolidated statements of income . future minimum lease payments for operating and capital leases with initial or remaining non-cancelable lease terms in excess of one year as of december 31 , 2012 , were as follows : millions operating leases capital leases .

operatingleases: 2013: 525
2014: 466
2015: 410
2016: 375
2017: 339
later years: 2126
total minimum leasepayments: 4241
amount representing interest: n/a
present value of minimum leasepayments: n/a
capitalleases: 2013: 282
2014: 265
2015: 253
2016: 232
2017: 243
later years: 1166
total minimum leasepayments: 2441
amount representing interest: -593
present value of minimum leasepayments: 1848

approximately 94% ( 94 % ) of capital lease payments relate to locomotives . rent expense for operating leases with terms exceeding one month was $ 631 million in 2012 , $ 637 million in 2011 , and $ 624 million in 2010 . when cash rental payments are not made on a straight-line basis , we recognize variable rental expense on a straight-line basis over the lease term . contingent rentals and sub-rentals are not significant . 17 . commitments and contingencies asserted and unasserted claims 2013 various claims and lawsuits are pending against us and certain of our subsidiaries . we cannot fully determine the effect of all asserted and unasserted claims on our consolidated results of operations , financial condition , or liquidity ; however , to the extent possible , where asserted and unasserted claims are considered probable and where such claims can be reasonably estimated , we have recorded a liability . we do not expect that any known lawsuits , claims , environmental costs , commitments , contingent liabilities , or guarantees will have a material adverse effect on our consolidated results of operations , financial condition , or liquidity after taking into account liabilities and insurance recoveries previously recorded for these matters . personal injury 2013 the cost of personal injuries to employees and others related to our activities is charged to expense based on estimates of the ultimate cost and number of incidents each year . we use an actuarial analysis to measure the expense and liability , including unasserted claims . the federal employers 2019 liability act ( fela ) governs compensation for work-related accidents . under fela , damages .

Questions:
what are total minimum payments for operating leases?
what is the total minimum payments for capital leases?
what is the sum?
what is the value for capital payments over the sum?

Answers:
4241
2441
6682
37%