results of operations operating revenues millions 2014 2013 2012 % (  % ) change 2014 v 2013 % (  % ) change 2013 v 2012 .

2014: freight revenues: 22560
other revenues: 1428
total: 23988
2013: freight revenues: 20684
other revenues: 1279
total: 21963
2012: freight revenues: 19686
other revenues: 1240
total: 20926
% (  % ) change 2014 v 2013: freight revenues: -9
other revenues: -12
total: -9
% (  % ) change 2013 v 2012: freight revenues: -5
other revenues: -3
total: -5

we generate freight revenues by transporting freight or other materials from our six commodity groups . freight revenues vary with volume ( carloads ) and average revenue per car ( arc ) . changes in price , traffic mix and fuel surcharges drive arc . we provide some of our customers with contractual incentives for meeting or exceeding specified cumulative volumes or shipping to and from specific locations , which we record as reductions to freight revenues based on the actual or projected future shipments . we recognize freight revenues as shipments move from origin to destination . we allocate freight revenues between reporting periods based on the relative transit time in each reporting period and recognize expenses as we incur them . other revenues include revenues earned by our subsidiaries , revenues from our commuter rail operations , and accessorial revenues , which we earn when customers retain equipment owned or controlled by us or when we perform additional services such as switching or storage . we recognize other revenues as we perform services or meet contractual obligations . freight revenues from all six commodity groups increased during 2014 compared to 2013 driven by 7% ( 7 % ) volume growth and core pricing gains of 2.5% ( 2.5 % ) . volume growth from grain , frac sand , rock , and intermodal ( domestic and international ) shipments offset declines in crude oil . freight revenues from five of our six commodity groups increased during 2013 compared to 2012 . revenue from agricultural products was down slightly compared to 2012 . arc increased 5% ( 5 % ) , driven by core pricing gains , shifts in business mix and an automotive logistics management arrangement . volume essentially was flat year over year as growth in automotive , frac sand , crude oil and domestic intermodal offset declines in coal , international intermodal and grain shipments . our fuel surcharge programs generated freight revenues of $ 2.8 billion , $ 2.6 billion , and $ 2.6 billion in 2014 , 2013 , and 2012 , respectively . fuel surcharge in 2014 increased 6% ( 6 % ) driven by our 7% ( 7 % ) carloadings increase . fuel surcharge in 2013 essentially was flat versus 2012 as lower fuel price offset improved fuel recovery provisions and the lag effect of our programs ( surcharges trail fluctuations in fuel price by approximately two months ) . in 2014 , other revenue increased from 2013 due to higher revenues at our subsidiaries , primarily those that broker intermodal and automotive services , accessorial revenue driven by increased volume and per diem revenue for container usage ( previously included in automotive freight revenue ) . in 2013 , other revenue increased from 2012 due primarily to miscellaneous contract revenue and higher revenues at our subsidiaries that broker intermodal and automotive services. .

Questions:
what was the fuel surcharge program freight revenue in 2014?
and in 2013?
so what was the difference between these two values?
so what was the percentage change during this time?

Answers:
2.8
2.6
.2
8%