notes to consolidated financial statements 161 fifth third bancorp as of december 31 , 2012 ( $ in millions ) significant unobservable ranges of financial instrument fair value valuation technique inputs inputs weighted-average commercial loans held for sale $ 9 appraised value appraised value nm nm cost to sell nm 10.0% ( 10.0 % ) commercial and industrial loans 83 appraised value default rates 100% ( 100 % ) nm collateral value nm nm commercial mortgage loans 46 appraised value default rates 100% ( 100 % ) nm collateral value nm nm commercial construction loans 4 appraised value default rates 100% ( 100 % ) nm collateral value nm nm msrs 697 discounted cash flow prepayment speed 0 - 100% ( 100 % ) ( fixed ) 16.1% ( 16.1 % ) ( adjustable ) 26.9% ( 26.9 % ) discount rates 9.4 - 18.0% ( 18.0 % ) ( fixed ) 10.5% ( 10.5 % ) ( adjustable ) 11.7% ( 11.7 % ) .

fair value: commercial loans held for sale: 9
commercial and industrial loans: 83
commercial mortgage loans: 46
commercial construction loans: 4
msrs: 697
oreo: 165
valuation technique: commercial loans held for sale: appraised value
commercial and industrial loans: appraised value
commercial mortgage loans: appraised value
commercial construction loans: appraised value
msrs: discounted cash flow
oreo: appraised value
significant unobservableinputs: commercial loans held for sale: appraised valuecost to sell
commercial and industrial loans: default ratescollateral value
commercial mortgage loans: default ratescollateral value
commercial construction loans: default ratescollateral value
msrs: prepayment speeddiscount rates
oreo: appraised value
ranges ofinputs: commercial loans held for sale: nmnm
commercial and industrial loans: 100
commercial mortgage loans: 100
commercial construction loans: 100
msrs: 0
oreo: nm
weighted-average: commercial loans held for sale: -10
commercial and industrial loans: nmnm
commercial mortgage loans: nmnm
commercial construction loans: nmnm
msrs: -16.1
oreo: nm

commercial loans held for sale during 2013 and 2012 , the bancorp transferred $ 5 million and $ 16 million , respectively , of commercial loans from the portfolio to loans held for sale that upon transfer were measured at fair value using significant unobservable inputs . these loans had fair value adjustments in 2013 and 2012 totaling $ 4 million and $ 1 million , respectively , and were generally based on appraisals of the underlying collateral and were therefore , classified within level 3 of the valuation hierarchy . additionally , during 2013 and 2012 there were fair value adjustments on existing commercial loans held for sale of $ 3 million and $ 12 million , respectively . the fair value adjustments were also based on appraisals of the underlying collateral and were therefore classified within level 3 of the valuation hierarchy . an adverse change in the fair value of the underlying collateral would result in a decrease in the fair value measurement . the accounting department determines the procedures for valuation of commercial hfs loans which may include a comparison to recently executed transactions of similar type loans . a monthly review of the portfolio is performed for reasonableness . quarterly , appraisals approaching a year old are updated and the real estate valuation group , which reports to the chief risk and credit officer , in conjunction with the commercial line of business review the third party appraisals for reasonableness . additionally , the commercial line of business finance department , which reports to the bancorp chief financial officer , in conjunction with accounting review all loan appraisal values , carrying values and vintages . commercial loans held for investment during 2013 and 2012 , the bancorp recorded nonrecurring impairment adjustments to certain commercial and industrial , commercial mortgage and commercial construction loans held for investment . larger commercial loans included within aggregate borrower relationship balances exceeding $ 1 million that exhibit probable or observed credit weaknesses are subject to individual review for impairment . the bancorp considers the current value of collateral , credit quality of any guarantees , the guarantor 2019s liquidity and willingness to cooperate , the loan structure and other factors when evaluating whether an individual loan is impaired . when the loan is collateral dependent , the fair value of the loan is generally based on the fair value of the underlying collateral supporting the loan and therefore these loans were classified within level 3 of the valuation hierarchy . in cases where the carrying value exceeds the fair value , an impairment loss is recognized . an adverse change in the fair value of the underlying collateral would result in a decrease in the fair value measurement . the fair values and recognized impairment losses are reflected in the previous table . commercial credit risk , which reports to the chief risk and credit officer , is responsible for preparing and reviewing the fair value estimates for commercial loans held for investment . mortgage interest rates increased during the year ended december 31 , 2013 and the bancorp recognized a recovery of temporary impairment on servicing rights . the bancorp recognized temporary impairments in certain classes of the msr portfolio during the year ended december 31 , 2012 and the carrying value was adjusted to the fair value . msrs do not trade in an active , open market with readily observable prices . while sales of msrs do occur , the precise terms and conditions typically are not readily available . accordingly , the bancorp estimates the fair value of msrs using internal discounted cash flow models with certain unobservable inputs , primarily prepayment speed assumptions , discount rates and weighted average lives , resulting in a classification within level 3 of the valuation hierarchy . refer to note 11 for further information on the assumptions used in the valuation of the bancorp 2019s msrs . the secondary marketing department and treasury department are responsible for determining the valuation methodology for msrs . representatives from secondary marketing , treasury , accounting and risk management are responsible for reviewing key assumptions used in the internal discounted cash flow model . two external valuations of the msr portfolio are obtained from third parties that use valuation models in order to assess the reasonableness of the internal discounted cash flow model . additionally , the bancorp participates in peer surveys that provide additional confirmation of the reasonableness of key assumptions utilized in the msr valuation process and the resulting msr prices . during 2013 and 2012 , the bancorp recorded nonrecurring adjustments to certain commercial and residential real estate properties classified as oreo and measured at the lower of carrying amount or fair value . these nonrecurring losses are primarily due to declines in real estate values of the properties recorded in oreo . for the years ended december 31 , 2013 and 2012 , these losses include $ 19 million and $ 17 million , respectively , recorded as charge-offs , on new oreo properties transferred from loans during the respective periods and $ 26 million and $ 57 million , respectively , recorded as negative fair value adjustments on oreo in other noninterest income subsequent to their transfer from loans . as discussed in the following paragraphs , the fair value amounts are generally based on appraisals of the property values , resulting in a .

Questions:
what were the nonrecurring losses in 2013?
and in 2012?
so what was the difference in this value between the two years?
and the percentage change for this period?

Answers:
19
17
2
11.8%