guarantees we adopted fasb interpretation no . 45 ( 201cfin 45 201d ) , 201cguarantor 2019s accounting and disclosure requirements for guarantees , including indirect guarantees of indebtedness of others 201d at the beginning of our fiscal 2003 . see 201crecent accounting pronouncements 201d for further information regarding fin 45 . the lease agreements for our three office buildings in san jose , california provide for residual value guarantees . these lease agreements were in place prior to december 31 , 2002 and are disclosed in note 14 . in the normal course of business , we provide indemnifications of varying scope to customers against claims of intellectual property infringement made by third parties arising from the use of our products . historically , costs related to these indemnification provisions have not been significant and we are unable to estimate the maximum potential impact of these indemnification provisions on our future results of operations . we have commitments to make certain milestone and/or retention payments typically entered into in conjunction with various acquisitions , for which we have made accruals in our consolidated financial statements . in connection with our purchases of technology assets during fiscal 2003 , we entered into employee retention agreements totaling $ 2.2 million . we are required to make payments upon satisfaction of certain conditions in the agreements . as permitted under delaware law , we have agreements whereby we indemnify our officers and directors for certain events or occurrences while the officer or director is , or was serving , at our request in such capacity . the indemnification period covers all pertinent events and occurrences during the officer 2019s or director 2019s lifetime . the maximum potential amount of future payments we could be required to make under these indemnification agreements is unlimited ; however , we have director and officer insurance coverage that limits our exposure and enables us to recover a portion of any future amounts paid . we believe the estimated fair value of these indemnification agreements in excess of applicable insurance coverage is minimal . as part of our limited partnership interests in adobe ventures , we have provided a general indemnification to granite ventures , an independent venture capital firm and sole general partner of adobe ventures , for certain events or occurrences while granite ventures is , or was serving , at our request in such capacity provided that granite ventures acts in good faith on behalf of the partnerships . we are unable to develop an estimate of the maximum potential amount of future payments that could potentially result from any hypothetical future claim , but believe the risk of having to make any payments under this general indemnification to be remote . we accrue for costs associated with future obligations which include costs for undetected bugs that are discovered only after the product is installed and used by customers . the accrual remaining at the end of fiscal 2003 primarily relates to new releases of our creative suites products during the fourth quarter of fiscal 2003 . the table below summarizes the activity related to the accrual during fiscal 2003 : balance at november 29 , 2002 accruals payments balance at november 28 , 2003 .

accruals: $ 2014: 5554
payments: $ 2014: -2369
balance at november 28 2003: $ 2014: 3185

advertising expenses we expense all advertising costs as incurred and classify these costs under sales and marketing expense . advertising expenses for fiscal years 2003 , 2002 , and 2001 were $ 24.0 million , $ 26.7 million and $ 30.5 million , respectively . foreign currency and other hedging instruments statement of financial accounting standards no . 133 ( 201csfas no . 133 201d ) , 201caccounting for derivative instruments and hedging activities , 201d establishes accounting and reporting standards for derivative instruments and hedging activities and requires us to recognize these as either assets or liabilities on the balance sheet and measure them at fair value . as described in note 15 , gains and losses resulting from .

Questions:
what was the difference in advertising expense between 2001 and 2002?
and the growth rate during this time?

Answers:
-3.8
-12.5%