He also said, "A lot of the time, if we're really stuck, we'll start saying everything that comes to our mind, which is usually the worst stuff, and then someone else will think that's terrible but it'll give him a better idea and the ball just starts rolling like that".
他也說「很多時候，當我們真的卡住，我們會開始將心中想到的任何事說出來，通常是最壞的事，接著就有人會想那很糟糕但卻給了他更好的點子，而這顆球就這麼滾動起來」。