However, Roger Martin of Population Matters states the view: "the poor want to get rich, and I want them to get rich," with a later addition, "of course we have to change consumption habits,... but we've also got to stabilise our numbers".
不过，Population Matters的罗杰·马丁称：“穷人想致富，我也想让他们致富，”但之后补充道，“当然我们得改变消费习惯... 但我们也得稳定人数”。