He was also prevented from succeeding the unpopular Charles the Fat, who was deposed in November 887 and died in January 888, although it is unknown if his overthrow was accepted or even made known in West Francia before his death.
Ia juga dihalangi untuk menjadi ahli waris Charles yang tidak populer, yang digulingkan pada bulan November 887 dan meninggal pada bulan Januari 888, meskipun tidak diketahui jika penurunan tahtanya diterima atau pernah diakui di Frankia Barat sebelum kematiannya.