Colloquially and by the press, they are often referred to as ministers, e.g. the head of the DDPS as "minister of defence", even though no such post officially exists.
Bahasa sehari-hari dan dengan pers, mereka sering disebut sebagai menteri, misalnya kepala DDPS sebagai "menteri pertahanan", meskipun ada posting keberadaannya secara resmi.