Needham further notes that the Han dynasty, which conquered the short-lived Qin, were made aware of the need for law by Lu Chia and by Shu-Sun Thung, as defined by the scholars, rather than the generals.
Needham lebih lanjut mencatat bahwa Dinasti Han, yang menaklukkan Qin yang berumur pendek, dibuat sadar perlunya hukum berdasarkan Lu Chia dan Shu-Sun Thung, sebagaimana yang didefinisikan oleh cendekiawan, bukan para jenderal.