Rav Sheishet of Nehardea applies the same aphorism to the convoluted reasoning for which the sages of Pumbedita were evidently famous: "Are you from Pumbedita, where they push an elephant through the eye of a needle?"
Rav Sheishet dari Nehardea menerapkan pepatah yang sama untuk penalaran berbelit-belit yang terkenal dari orang bijak Pumbedita: "Apakah Anda dari Pumbedita, di mana mereka mendorong gajah melewati lubang jarum?"