After retiring from military service in 1973, he worked as an ROTC instructor, taught military law at Weber State University in Ogden, Utah, and hosted a radio talk show in Salt Lake City which featured discussions about the paranormal.
Setelah pensiun dari kemiliteran pada 1973 dia bekerja sebagai instruktur ROTC, mengajarkan hukum militer di Weber State University di Ogden, Utah, dan membawakan acara radio di Salt Lake City yang membahas hal paranormal.