Question: Both Grinderman and Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds are a rock band based out of where?

Context articles: Skeleton Tree
The Best of Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds
Grinderman 2
Original Seeds
List of Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds band members
Thomas Wydler
Grinderman (album)
Nocturama (album)
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
Warren Ellis (musician)

Skeleton Tree is the sixteenth studio album by Australian-English rock band Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds.
 It was released on 9 September 2016 on Bad Seed Ltd.
 A follow-up to the band's critically acclaimed album "Push the Sky Away" (2013), "Skeleton Tree" was recorded over 18 months at Retreat Recording Studios in Brighton, La Frette Studios in La Frette-sur-Seine, and Air Studios in London.
 It was produced by Nick Cave, Warren Ellis and Nick Launay.
 During the sessions Cave's 15-year-old son Arthur died from an accidental cliff fall.
 Most of the album had been written at the time of Cave's son's death, but several lyrics were amended by Cave during subsequent recording sessions and feature themes of death, loss and personal grief.
The Best of Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds is a compilation album by Australian alternative rock band Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, released on May 11, 1998.
Grinderman 2 is the second and final studio album by alternative rock band Grinderman, a side project of Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, released on 13 September 2010 on Mute Records in the United Kingdom and ANTI- in the United States.
Original Seeds: Songs that inspired Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds is a compilation album by Various Artists, which was initially released in June 1998.
 It was re-titled as "Original Seeds Vol 1: Songs that inspired Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds" when the follow-up "Original Seeds Vol 2: Songs that inspired Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds" appeared in 2004.
 Both appeared on the Rubber Records label in Australia and the United Kingdom.
The following is a complete chronology of the various line-ups of the multinational alternative rock music group Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds.
 Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds (briefly "Nick Cave – Man or Myth?"
 and later "Nick Cave and the Cavemen") formed in late 1983 in Melbourne, Australia, by five musicians, including several former members of the group The Birthday Party shortly after this band's demise, and is thus seen as its continuation.
Thomas Wydler (born 9 October 1959, Zurich, Switzerland), is a Swiss musician best known for being a core member of Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, of which he has been a drummer since 1985.
 Prior to joining them, he was a member of the experimental German band Die Haut.
 Wydler has been present on almost every Bad Seeds album, making his debut appearance on the group's third album "Kicking Against The Pricks" (1986).
 After the departure of founding member Mick Harvey in January 2009, Wydler became the longest-serving member of the Bad Seeds apart from singer Nick Cave.
Grinderman is the eponymous debut studio album by alternative rock band Grinderman, a side project of members of Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, released on March 5, 2007 on Mute Records in Europe and ANTI- in the United States.
 Aiming to recreate the more raw, primal sound of all former related projects such as The Birthday Party, "Grinderman"'s lyrical and musical content diverged significantly to Nick Cave's concurrent work with The Bad Seeds, whose last studio album, "Abattoir Blues/The Lyre of Orpheus" (2004), was primarily blues, gospel and alternative-orientated in stark contrast to the raw sound of the early Bad Seeds albums.
 Incidentally, the musical direction of "Grinderman" influenced The Bad Seeds' next studio album, "Dig, Lazarus, Dig!!!
" (2008).
Nocturama is the twelfth studio album by Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, released in 2003.
 It so far has a Metacritic score of 73 out of 100 based on "generally favorable reviews".
 To date, it is the last Bad Seeds album to feature founding member Blixa Bargeld.
 This album reunited Nick Cave with Nick Launay, who had produced "Junkyard" by The Birthday Party 21 years earlier.
 It was recorded in one week during an Australian tour in March 2002.
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds are an Australian rock band formed in Melbourne in 1983 by vocalist Nick Cave, multi-instrumentalist Mick Harvey and guitarist Blixa Bargeld.
 The band has featured international personnel throughout its career and presently consists of Cave, violinist and multi-instrumentalist Warren Ellis, bassist Martyn P. Casey and keyboardist Conway Savage (all four from Australia), guitarist George Vjestica (United Kingdom), keyboard/percussionist Toby Dammit (United States) and drummers Thomas Wydler (Switzerland) and Jim Sclavunos (United States).
 The band has released fifteen studio albums and completed numerous international tours, and has been considered "one of the most original and celebrated bands of the post-punk and alternative rock eras in the '80s and onward".
Warren Ellis (born 14 February 1965) is an Australian-French musician and composer.
 He is a member of several groups: Dirty Three, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds and Grinderman.
 He has also composed film scores with Nick Cave.
 Ellis plays violin, piano, bouzouki, guitar, flute, mandolin, tenor guitar, and viola.
 Ellis has been a member of Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds since 1994.