Italian: um so the question is uh i wanted to ask you yeah listen so in this job um in this job you were doing uh of um the first job that you had

Israeli: i had many jobs

Italian: no the job no no the job that you were you were working like for a boss in in the studio

Israeli: yes

Italian: why you were bored because you didn't like it because uh

Israeli: no no it's a combination of things and by the way the salary was low

Italian: okay

Israeli: or wasn't enough or wasn't enough but this wasn't the reason it maybe it was added to the whole calculation but i wouldn't leave just because of this if i felt that i'm happy and

Italian: no you would have probably talked to the boss and told him that you wanted a raise

Israeli: no even without this if i was enthusiastic

Italian: mm hmm

Israeli: if i if uh i was enthusiastic or like i woke up every morning i said wow i'm so enjoying the things i said okay i wish i had a better salary or stuff but i wouldn't get away because to be happy in a job is not something that is taken for granted many people do jobs no they have to do the job they go to work and they look at their watch or the clocks that is above on the wall and the the moment the time arrives tink they clink the thing they go away just not to forget about it

Italian: absolutely

Israeli: uh i never had this kind of things by the way even in the laying the laying jobs or the physical jobs i wasn't the person that is looking at the time and i was working peacefully

Italian: mamma mia

Israeli: doing my i was doing my things easily i cannot imagine myself sitting in a closed place you know looking for the times that i have to go <overlap>

Italian: i'm trying to i'm trying to remember i'm trying to remember uh trying to recall if there has ever been a a job i did that was so boring to look at the clock but certainly the you know what job i did once

Israeli: no

Italian: johnny a among the many uh the job was given to me by the shrink of my mother who had a friend this ge who was looking for this person for a person like this oh it was such a nice thing basically she was looking for a secretary <laugh> that was uh organizing the papers and mostly the the printed material and the also the hosting during the classes of a course for engineers and in this course these engineers once every sunday they were studying the techniques of filtering uh waters from the from the (()) like like it was like uh like uh wat like filtering waters l like cleaning waters from the from the toilet <laugh> toilet thing uh i never put that i never put that on the on the cv but i think i should <laugh> especially to clean the water

Israeli: yeah written as a memory as a memory or a story the memory or the story is always nice for the resume for the cv but try to imagine that there are people that are working in this type of works all the lives

Italian: very good

Israeli: there are pa many people that are satisfied with this a man said oh i have a steady job

Italian: absolutely

Israeli: and it's not something complicated it doesn't require for me so much and you know it even gives me a salary

Italian: yeah

Israeli: lucky me i'm safe i have a i can

Italian: because

Israeli: i i can afford living

Italian: yeah

Israeli: which is okay most of the people want to feel safe when you leave a job not for mo not because you have another job

Italian: uh huh

Israeli: when you leave a job that you don't like or you're not happy or you are not fulfilled and you don't have anything and you go to the unknown it's because of your character

Italian: yeah

Israeli: it's not because

Italian: there are really few people who do that not

Israeli: no i don't know if there are few but it's a percentage of the population it's because of a specific character i don't have the fear of leaving a job because i don't know what i will find because deep inside i know that i can find

Italian: yeah

Israeli: so i'm not stressed by the fact that i don't have a job in fact the opposite the fact that i do not have a job allows me to find something because if i was still working in the job uh i don't know what to do because i'm concentrated on one thing i need to be clean

Italian: yes yes yes uh of course and uh but he says the s the se i think he says this thing that if you like what you do you are able to you are able to be much more flexible with many things like with money uh with the timing like more time

Israeli: first of all if you like what you do first of all if you like what you do you are not suffering

Italian: mm of course

Israeli: okay if every day you go to a place but you don't like what you do you really don't like

Italian: mm

Israeli: i didn't say hate yu don't like what you do

Italian: no no correct

Israeli: you're not going to be a happy person

Italian: mm no

Israeli: it doesn't bring happiness so you don't need to love but you need to be but you need to be what is called uh at one peace

Italian: i at the same time

Israeli: uh to have a peace of mind to to have a peace of mind with yourself that you chose to do something that you can live with

Italian: but at the same time let's suppose i am a tailor okay and i really like my job

Israeli: okay

Italian: i really do like to do it but i work in a studio where the boss is just impossible to bear

Israeli: perfect

Italian: you know