Vietnamese: hello my participant number is f c sixty five dash p two please call stella ask her to bring these things with her from the store six spoons of fresh snow peas five thick slabs of blue cheese and maybe a snack for her brother bob we also need a small plastic snake and a big toy frog for the kids she can scoop these things into three red bags and we we go meet her wednesday at the train station

Vietnamese: hey my uh participant number is f c sixty five dash p two please call stella ask her to bring these things with her from the store six spoons of fresh snow peas five thick slabs of blue cheese and maybe a snack for her brother bob we also need a small plastic snake and a big toy frog for the kids she can scoop these things into three red bags and we'll go meet her wednesday at the train station

Vietnamese: okay so uh let's start a conversation um okay um so do you remember when uh you were a kid what cars or uh games or video games did you used to play

Vietnamese: um i used to play a lot of shooting games um

Vietnamese: right

Vietnamese: i also play uh a bunch of uh simulations uh so basically we uh create a character and you know you can also build like a house for yourself

Vietnamese: (())

Vietnamese: and basically

Vietnamese: like in uh what is it like minecraft

Vietnamese: uh more like uh the sims

Vietnamese: oh the the the sims yeah yeah i i i used to buy like (())

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: okay yeah i i also like uh first person shooter yeah but but i think i i i preferred uh role play games rather than uh shoo shoo shooting games yeah i i used to play uh uh uh simulation games si simulator game but yeah i i i i think i prefer role playing okay so uh is there one you remember well of uh is there like the the most favorite game you play

Vietnamese: um so the sims uh they have like so they they i i think they create like um four games but uh my my favorite one is probably the the third the the the the third sims game because the um because i i really enjoy uh building houses in the sim stream because their <overlap>

Vietnamese: oh yeah that's true

Vietnamese: yeah their their their system is very uh is very good

Vietnamese: okay yeah i i remember that game i used to to really like to design uh new houses in in sim and uh some time you you show me one of your designs

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: so that they were were good okay so what about um books or film or tv show <overlap>

Vietnamese: um uh honestly i i did not um i did not read a lot of books um when i was little but um there's this there's this one book so there's this one comic called uh cedric is about uh

Vietnamese: oh yeah

Vietnamese: is about like uh a little boy um and like he he lives in french

Vietnamese: okay

Vietnamese: he's french uh he lives with uh with his parents and and his uh grandpa and he does some he he does a lot of uh s silly things that were very funny to me as as a as a kid

Vietnamese: oh yeah i i i also remember that that book but uh it's in in french and uh my french uh was not uh really good at at the time so i i didn't read a lot of books cedric but yeah i i i i read uh some uh english version somewhere and uh yeah i uh i i i remember that story and uh i think there are there are some similar books like uh like that like nicolas they are

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: books of french writers yeah but i i i prefer uh uh marvel comics yeah i i read a lot i read a lot of marvel comics probably like several like several thousand issues of uh

Vietnamese: wow

Vietnamese: of marvel yeah and uh

Vietnamese: yeah which which uh which series i is your is your favorite

Vietnamese: i i think my first my first ever one of my first ever and most uh like most memorable series was the new avengers uh but uh actually uh marvel comics they had like a really long history and uh some uh there are some issues they refer to the event that was very far in the past and uh to to to understand the whole story and uh also references in uh in in the comics you need to like read a lot of related book and uh sometime uh uh sometime uh weak events happen happens and you need to read all time times yeah and so to to understand the times you uh you need to uh read uh other uh other title of other characters yeah so actually marvel has has like uh three thousand heroes it's it's a lot of to to read and uh you actually need to remember a lot of things and i i spend uh i i think i spend a lot of time to to read all of the comics and i've read several times so yeah

Vietnamese: yeah so w which uh like which character was was your like is your favorite of all uh like three thousand characters

Vietnamese: uh okay yeah um back then there there used to there used to be a game called uh marvel heroes two thousand and sixteen or something and uh you can actually play the characters and while most of most of the characters that i that i had in the game i i think they are my favorite so when whenever i get a new character i read all the uh comics so my first character was black panther uh

Vietnamese: okay

Vietnamese: and and he is he has like a really cool uh cool superpower he has like a a really advanced suit like from vibranium and he has like uh he he was like a trained martial artist and he is uh very rich also uh apart from that there were iron man and uh uh well probably thor uh actually i i don't like thor that that that much because like he's he's too powerful yeah and i i think what my most favorite uh you know is is spiderman yeah because he uh

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: yeah he he he he overcomes so much uh harsh and uh he's he's still a a hero even though he he's so poor uh okay

Vietnamese: yeah he he's very poor he's in

Vietnamese: yeah yeah but i i think lately uh the quality of comic books uh it's uh it's going like going down so

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: yeah it's not as good as before uh i i think the period from uh from two thousand to about two thousand eleven or two thousand twelve they're the best best period of of comic books okay

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: okay so apart from that do you do you watch uh do you watch movie movie or tv show

Vietnamese: yeah i i actually um i don't watch a lot but um i like but when i do i mostly uh watch uh like tv like movies and and series from from marvels as well from the uh marvel cinematic universe uh i i think they have a couple of new series released recently um i think it's called miss marvel

Vietnamese: okay but did did you watch them all or you already heard about them

Vietnamese: uh no i i didn't i haven't started watching uh miss marvel yet but they also had uh like a different series called uh moon knight released uh yeah it was released recently uh uh i think it's i think it's very good the way they um the way they um explore this this character because usually when there's a there's a new character coming out like they would dig very deep into like their past and the way they they they get their powers but um in moon knight they just kind of jump straight into the like the action and stuff

Vietnamese: uh huh

Vietnamese: i think it's just uh very interesting

Vietnamese: uh oh yeah uh yeah because i think like uh um some sometimes origin story of heroes are quite boring and uh

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: be because a as i as i said before because uh marvel has already has uh such a long history of of uh uh characters and uh may maybe some character was invented like seventy or sixty years ago so yeah if if they they get to the original story then it would be very boring and i i think they want the craft like a dy dynamic uh uh you know is actually between the characters that's why they jump straight into the the the current story yeah and and

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: maybe they can explain the uh the the start of those hero later like in the flash flashback or or or something

Vietnamese: yeah yeah

Vietnamese: yeah so so they yeah probably they they they don't want do that yeah but

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: uh but i think that uh uh marvel marvel show uh is for for some reason they are they're not really really good because they uh they want to build up so many so many thing at at once they want to introduce

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: uh new new characters and uh new event and uh they want everything to to to tie in to together in into one big universe so yeah uh even even the whole show it's just like one uh one small part of of the of the big of one bigger show yeah so so that's why they they feel very uh disconnected

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: in order to make them connect together uh each one feel very disconnected from from from the whole things so i i i'm sure if if they can keep up like this because uh uh actually after after a long period of reading uh the marvel comics i actually want to read like coming from uh uh other brand like uh indepe independent uh independent author or like or comic from uh a smaller publisher yeah because they're more more creative and they they <overlap> don't rely too much on established characters uh some sometime i i do some comics of of marvel that uh that that do like a like a different formula appearance yeah is like

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: they explore uh explore um the alternate version of of hero so so they're much much more interesting yeah be because you know how they sometimes they just kill a character and like bring them back like two

Vietnamese: yeah yeah

Vietnamese: to the show la later yeah so they

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: like like the main they kind of sorry they they lose lose all minutes yeah so yeah maybe this is not not it it will happen to the xu in in the future yeah so so

Vietnamese: i i i feel like um a lot of the new like the new series and like also the the new issues of uh of the comics like they became like they started becoming very um commercial like this

Vietnamese: i see

Vietnamese: yeah it feel it feels like they a a lot of those movies like they they make it just to um just to please like the fans

Vietnamese: right

Vietnamese: but they don't really focus on like the the depth of the the characters or um

Vietnamese: yeah like no no development yeah

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: and like each each movie like there's there's one new dirt and each each story they're like new new uh writer yeah so so so it's it's not per persistent yeah and uh

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: most most of the most most of time they just make the to sell more more more toys <overlap>

Vietnamese: yeah more toys

Vietnamese: as far as most of the kids so uh even even the the show like like uh like the an animated version is is not very good there was some some really good good show but like for some reason they just can cancel them i dunno so so so i'm not sure about marvel anymore like there used to be really good yeah but

Vietnamese: yeah i i think it's because they they probably don't make enough of money from from those um like from those that they they cancel or is because some there's some other reasons

Vietnamese: right yeah so so i think this yeah

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: okay so uh uh what uh sport do you play i mean in the sport when you was a kid

Vietnamese: um i i really like um i really liked badminton actually uh took a badminton class when i was uh i think fourth grade or fifth grade

Vietnamese: yeah but but i don't see you pay it anymore

Vietnamese: um i i know i i kind of i kind of got like lazier and i also like i couldn't find a lot of time for for sports um re recently i actually um so so so at so at school there's there's this like i have to do uh gym gym class gym classes and uh i i took like swimming classes like i know how to i i know how to swim already but you know i still took like swimming classes just to you know get the uh opportunity to uh

Vietnamese: yeah to swim

Vietnamese: yeah to swim and to um you know like to uh probably you know like work out uh uh a movement

Vietnamese: oh yeah totally

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: and probably in increase your your height a bit more

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: okay

Vietnamese: um

Vietnamese: yeah so so you only honestly recently uh no other other kind of sport

Vietnamese: yeah uh yeah usually only uh swimming i i i don't know if uh rope skipping count as a as a sport or is it just like a one of the workouts

Vietnamese: yeah just like ca cardio workout

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: uh (()) yeah i i i used to play like basketball too when i when i was like in the sixth grade yeah but yeah

Vietnamese: mm mm hmm

Vietnamese: a after a while after a while i i also forgot how to play and i don't know how to play that much anymore because uh when i when i get to high school uh my my friend most of them don't don't play don't play that that game that stopped so yeah i i kind of kind of stopped there and uh yeah li literally i i only do like some workout at at the gym and or maybe at home so yeah i i don't

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: really play like that anymore but like if if you have a chance you you play like stuff when you play uh more sport or like if you find uh if you find a team or something uh because i uh i want to play like uh uh the table tennis yeah but but it's really hard to uh to

Vietnamese: oh okay yeah

Vietnamese: yeah to get my friend to to play this after work they most of them uh like very tired and uh actually i have i have some uh you know table tennis uh ra racket here with me but like i i cannot find anyone to to play because of the work hours here so so yeah

Vietnamese: yeah um i i i i think most of most of my friends um like they they play soccer a lot so they have uh like they they have soccer teams and i i probably would um i mean i i i don't like uh i don't like soccer that much uh yeah i think like personally i i think it's uh it's it's quite boring but

Vietnamese: uh

Vietnamese: uh i probably would um you know try to engage in in more uh activities maybe go play soccer sometimes with with the with the friends so too like um you know uh

Vietnamese: like connect with them or like like you know have have like a

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: social life right

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: but not like for for the sport per se

Vietnamese: yeah just do it for um you know to to to be active to be more active

Vietnamese: uh and so

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: yeah so so my sport is not uh not like a strong (()) uh so so you know uh if you don't play then do you wa watch sport like a lot

Vietnamese: um i i do um like i i do follow the uh like the events but i don't really like spend time to to for example watch a full game or something

Vietnamese: oh yeah that's true yeah yeah me me too because like um uh when when if i see something on on tv like like some uh football match or like some (()) match probably i i will watch it but uh i don't like actively like sit sit

Vietnamese: yeah yeah

Vietnamese: i will program to watch to watch them

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: so yeah i kind of really like the old kind of life i have been particularly fond of it yeah

Vietnamese: yeah yeah of course

Vietnamese: okay so um what about your next holiday where where would you go where would you where are you planning to go

Vietnamese: um my next holiday i um i plan to go to ho chi minh city um in july or august but i i also really want to um to to visit foreign countries uh such as you know for example singapore or australia or thailand

Vietnamese: mm

Vietnamese: uh i i've never i've never been um in in foreign countries before so

Vietnamese: oh all right that's true

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: like never been outside vietnam yeah it's okay yeah i probably think you should go i i've been to um singapore and australia and and china and laos yeah but uh i i think yeah i i think like the best destination for for you now is singapore uh because it's uh it's it's a lot it's a lot diff different from from vietnam and um you know i i also plan to go singapore you know my friend one of my best friends is working in malaysia right now and i have planned to visit visit him i was also also go to singapore maybe also in in august and uh i i live in in australia for like two years so i i i could uh uh show you some some places that you can go visit yeah so

Vietnamese: yes

Vietnamese: yeah good so will you work will you like to work in australia later or just to visit

Vietnamese: um i i actually i i i don't know at at the moment but i mean if the uh i mean if if the opportunity um comes then yeah like why not

Vietnamese: yeah yeah you you should go you should go and uh and have a job because like uh australia is one of the best place uh one of best places to to live yeah

Vietnamese: oh

Vietnamese: i i think it's

Vietnamese: okay so

Vietnamese: yeah sorry

Vietnamese: yeah so when when when you when you were in uh australia um like what what was the uh what was the most like different uh aspects to to life compared to uh like when you were in vietnam like what what change

Vietnamese: uh okay uh so uh so the people in australia they have like a very relaxed lifestyle um they just go go to work like seven or seven and half hour a day and uh and on the weekend they just like go have like a trip either like go to a park or uh take a hike or like some some people even even if they don't have like a lot of money they they have like a boat or something if they're poor they have like small boat and if they are like rich they have like big one and they just like go like to in the mid middle of the ocean like uh uh do some f fishing yeah uh well i uh i i uh i had a chance to go go go fishing with with some of my friends when when i was there and uh yeah like we re relaxing and uh uh one of one of the things that they uh uh the like the seas or the ocean and uh they're clean so yeah

Vietnamese: oh yeah i know

Vietnamese: when when you go fishing you can just like eat eat the fish directly yeah just cook it and eat it

Vietnamese: wow

Vietnamese: yeah so so

Vietnamese: nice

Vietnamese: the life is very interesting and uh now what else uh and also um if you you live in in some city like uh like adelaide or perth and uh um they're not very (()) not not like not

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: (()) not like in in uh in in our our city now uh so yeah because i'm you know i'm i'm an introverted person so i i don't really like to have too too many people around me and yeah i i think that's what's the like the perfect environment for for me i'm not sure about you uh but like yeah uh what else uh they um i i think in australia there the tax is very hard you you you can be taxed like thirty to forty percent depending on your income yeah but well uh yeah with with with the tax with the taxes that that high then the um i i think the the the uh uh how how to call that the the

Vietnamese: like the the the (()) <overlap>

Vietnamese: yeah (())

Vietnamese: oh yeah yeah

Vietnamese: the welfare the welfare is is very good the wel the welfare um

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: um you you are provided everything like you know when you go to hospital is like practical like practically free and uh they build a lot of parks for for for kids and for for people um in each neighborhood there there must be one like one park yeah so you can so everyone can have easy access to to the park and in in some of the big one big ones they have like like the the barbecue station

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: so

Vietnamese: wow

Vietnamese: so so you can just bring your bring your food there and you can have a barbecue with with your friends like barbecue is is a very big things in in australia like uh if if if the temperature is like thirty or thirty five they hey still they still invite you to barbecue they don't really care about the heat <laugh> so so this was very strange at the first but yeah i get used to it yeah so if if i had if i had a chance i i would i would also go go back to the to australia

Vietnamese: yeah i i i think it's also very like um like very safe there like there's a lot of uh you know security and

Vietnamese: uh safe safe a lot of safety i'm i'm not sure because uh uh when i go to the uh uh to the city center there there's like many people who's loit who is loitering and uh um i don't think that they work and they also like ask you for for money for for change for like some some coin so yeah and i think some some uh women there are harassed you know and yeah so in city city center it's not quite quite safe uh but like in uh in like the suburb there's like there's not many there's not many people so so so maybe you you feel you feel less safe but like nothing ever happens there yeah so so probably it is much safer in like the suburb but like there's uh there's not many people um no however there's there's one thing (()) that maybe maybe still scares me um because because uh they they have like so they they're very like uh spacious you know they they have so many like land like empty land so maybe when when when they when some people are killed then the body will be buried buried somewhere that that is really hard to find yeah so so yeah so that's one one of the things that still bo bothers me about australia

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: i'm i'm not sure how how you feel about that and uh before before i went to australia uh i had a fear about like like very big big spider and big animals in australia but when i go there when i lived in the city actually i like almost never never see any like really big big ones like just like um regular um regular size regular size spiders yeah so so maybe if you live if you live in outback of australia then you would uh need to worry about that yeah

Vietnamese: i i i think a lot of uh a lot of people and you know also uh the media like they they tend to exaggerate do you like the situation a lot

Vietnamese: oh yeah

Vietnamese: so uh yeah i i think like tho those animals they only like they only live in like certain areas but uh people would just you know exaggerate it and you know scare scare foreigners

Vietnamese: oh yeah that's that's true

Vietnamese: actually not the case

Vietnamese: okay yeah but

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: uh actually they have like lot of kan kangaroos and uh at at the time uh i'm i'm sure what was it what is mar marsupial right like like the

Vietnamese: mm yeah

Vietnamese: like with with the bats

Vietnamese: yeah yeah

Vietnamese: yeah so yeah they they they have they do have some like real cute uh cute ones yeah but but but big one and scary one they they also have that

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: so probably you should prepare for that before you go to australia uh otherwise the yeah australia is is a really good place to to live and maybe you should like move there and become like a a permanent resident or like a citizen or something yeah it's yeah i highly recommend australia fully or what about

Vietnamese: yeah

Vietnamese: eu europe do you want to go been there because uh i have never been there too you know and uh i i i would i would like to g to europe somewhere but i'm i'm not sure about living in europe right but what about you

Vietnamese: yeah i i i want to to like visit uh a few countries but i don't think uh i'm going to uh live there um uh i i i i've heard a lot of um you know not very nice things about like the life over there but i'm also not sure because uh like those opinions might just be uh you know subjective and need to do some research on that but by the way we we only have uh uh less than a minute on the meeting

Vietnamese: okay

Vietnamese: yeah zoom zoom is gonna close

Vietnamese: all right so let's finish the conversation later and say if uh we hit uh uh (()) uh if not enough and then i think we will continue another one session all right bye

Vietnamese: bye

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