American: yeah

English: ideas of clo closeness should be

American: yeah

English: like was different so yeah

American: yeah it's completely different yeah yeah uh i have a question as well

English: go for it

American: when you were when you were a kid what kind of games did you play

English: that's a long story <laugh> i was a i was a kid a long time

American: it's okay

English: let me let me think

American: summarize it just summarizing like just give a k a few just give me like a few

English: um because of my brothers i played mostly like what's considered boys games so i played counter strike gta shooting games need for speed i think i played barbie games on my own but because

American: yeah

English: they were like competitive into shooting i did a lot of

American: yeah

English: counter strike so yeah

American: did you ever have storylines did you have storylines with your barbies

English: <laugh> uh no

American: <overlap> memorable stories

English: i remember playing a barbie dress up game uh where they would go on a runway after and i

American: mm hmm

English: actually remember having so much fun with it and i tried to look it up recently and i just couldn't

American: yeah

English: find the exact game 'cause there's so many

American: yeah

English: barbie games

American: yeah

English: i wish i could i feel like that would bring so many memories for me

American: yeah yeah yeah

English: but yeah i think a lot of counter strike for sure

American: what did you enjoy about those games

English: uh i think gta i didn't really know how to play it i just went around

American: right yeah but that's the whole fun of it you just don't really know it you just roaming around like free

English: yeah but there's missions in gta so

American: yeah it's a really nice story too as well about you

English: i don't know the story

American: yeah

English: i would just play like stealing cars and everything i think i enjoyed counter strike the most because of the social aspect of it 'cause you could chat with people and also

American: yeah

English: get to know people a lot of people from my town would play so it was a way

American: that's nice

English: of meeting someone <laugh>

American: that was nice

English: yeah what about you what what games did you play i think you have a bigger history of gaming <laugh>

American: oh yeah no with like with game yeah hundred percent but if i had to really boil it down let's say around the era where i played uh on my first console which was a p s two i think there's i have thousands of games but the ones that i mm probably deem probably most memorable and like my probably definitely the top top ones i enjoyed so much is definitely um gta gta san andreas was so fun

English: mm

American: although although i was a kid you know it's not it's not a game for a kid it was just like having the freedom to roam around and do these kind of cool story missions and like actually involve it wasn't the most immer i don't know it was immersive for its time i guess but it wasn't crazy immersive but it was a nice storyline it was a very mature storyline but i still f found it very cool and uh it just had the whole fantasy of like being being being this reckless you know crazy protagonist protagonist <overlap>

English: antagonist <laugh>

American: antagonist yeah definitely antagonist

English: probably

American: antagonist that's true uh but another fond memory i have of a game is this uh one computer game i played on the laptop and it was like called poptropica something like that and um you're like little uh like like basically like cartoon characters and you jump about and it was like a cool little story it's like everything's in the two d it's all on two d so everything's flat two d so um uh it was it was really cool it was fun it was just i had a lot of childhood memories on it i used to play with it played on it with my uh with my uh childhood friend and it was just really cool and i think i liked that again because it had like a cartoony kind of playful feeling to it and it was really nice and fun those are two

English: did you ever did you ever play papa's pizz pizzeria or <overlap>

American: no no no i just had

English: no

American: no <laugh>

English: uh every couple of years of my childhood and even probably adult years i would start playing it for fun and then i would get addicted 'cause you wanna expand more and more and more yeah that was

American: yeah

English: one of the online games i think i played a lot of s like mini games like not the ones that you

American: yeah

English: have to download and stuff but just find

American: yeah yeah

English: something online

American: yeah yeah yeah yeah

English: yeah for sure

American: that reminds me i think the major most major game definitely has to be roblox now think about it uh

English: yeah yeah yeah

American: yeah

English: i was gonna say i think <no-speech>

American: yeah roblox i think 'cause when i when i entered there first we would almost ten years ago now it was like two thousand eleven

English: wow

American: i played so it's already been ten years ago when i played for the first time it was amazing it was like the social hub for all the kids it was um creative they had like a currency system you have material things before you went before you saturate you know and the market nowadays for like games like you have to buy a v box and things like that and like packs and skins and things like that it was like the come up of like getting into that material materialization of like uh of of fun games but that was fun that was great i had i used to roleplay on it it was an awesome game role playing like dungeons like dragons nights uh going from star wars role playing it was just like it was just fun and it was really creative roleplaying is very creative in a sense because again you get to have such cool dialogue create narratives and it's awesome so that was definitely one of my favorite games

English: mm hmm what games do you play now

American: games i play now um <laugh> games i play now is simply i play valorant which is a a first person shooter which is a tactical game

English: is is it is valorant a roleplay game

American: valiant isn't a roleplay no

English: what is a roleplay game then

American: uh from i can give you my perspective on it but if you wanna clear on i'm sure now google always has the answer but for me what i what i deem as an rp game uh a role play game which is rpg is something that has a kind of uh lore or aspect of it where you can um how do i describe it has it definitely has a deeper context and lore and you're brought into you're brought into something which is like a storyline or you're brought into uh an environment where there is already lore and there's something to it

English: okay okay okay okay okay okay okay

American: but i think the main aspect of roleplay games is that usually there's um there's a there's like a cri no not criteria but there's like info on like attack points things like that uh damage points it's it's just more detailed of like what you do and there's more aspects of like uh storyline and developing a story

English: mm hmm yeah yeah yeah

American: there's attack points and things like that you know and it's interesting um because most of the roleplay games they invite you to be immersed in this whole new environment and they want you to be uh to be kind of like immersed in this character you create for example i roleplay games that i know of like skyrim they bring you they they allow you to create your character and isn't brought into just like a you know a a prebuilt character but there's there's

English: okay okay

American: there's roleplay games like witcher witcher is like a popular roleplay game as well where you're born into a character

English: yeah

American: but as you know there's attack points or storylines there's dialogue you're immersed there's definitely more immersion in a roleplay game that's it

English: okay got you

American: yeah did you every play a roleplay game

English: i'm not sure did i ever

American: world of warcraft

English: no is that a roleplay game no i haven't played that

American: yeah it's a roleplay i played <overlap>

English: i can't remember if i've ever played a roleplay game i don't think so um right now i'm just playing stardew valley which is a farming game

American: yeah

English: which i love a lot it's kind of addictive as well <laugh>

American: i see yeah

English: um

American: i think stardew valley might be a roleplay game

English: i don't think so because you know

American: yeah it is

English: really

American: it is yeah stardew valley is a simulation roleplaying game developed by yeah

English: that's so confusing to me because uh from what you just explained i assume

American: yeah

English: that roleplaying means you get to meet other characters you get to like say things like choose what you want to say but i guess you can do that in stardew

American: yeah i mean that's in stardew yeah it has all the aspects

English: oh okay okay okay okay

American: it has all the aspects

English: i thought it was just a farming game <laugh>

American: no

English: okay

American: because you're brought into a role you're brought into a role of uh of this character you create the creation's there most roleplaying game have creations where you

English: okay okay oh okay okay okay okay okay okay

American: so you play that role or something

English: so by creating your character you're in a roleplay game

American: yeah

English: but for valorant

American: yes

English: because the characters are premade it's not roleplay

American: they're premade and there is

English: okay <laugh>

American: there is no like storyline to follow or there is no like quests and things like that roleplay games typically have quests

English: okay okay

American: they have these like like a linear narrative i i would say valorant doesn't really have valorant doesn't have like a li linear storyline it has like a linear gameplay of like uh you have to beat the enemy team and it's like you know it's like counter strike counter strike isn't a roleplay game

English: okay i got it i understand yeah

American: it's just <overlap> yeah yeah yeah

English: so

American: uh yeah do you want me to ask do you want to ask me anything

English: okay i'll ask you something um

American: okay

English: w what do people do during movies that really annoys you at the cinema <laugh>

American: uh

English: or at the movie theater <laugh>

American: okay i'm gonna be honest i'm going to be honest everything that people have done that is annoying during movies is something which i've done myself so i can never really get too annoyed

English: oh

American: could get too annoyed right

English: <laugh> don't tell me you were one of those people who take the picture of the movie with flash on <laugh>

American: no no no no no no it was always

English: okay because that'd be that's the most

American: it was always flash off it was always flash off

English: okay

American: i would never do flash on that's just like insane that is entirely insane because you've just you've that's like zero social awareness because you don't really know what's going on

English: that's that's the one i find the most annoying is when someone

American: yeah i know yeah

English: i i just don't understand the proc uh process

American: for me

English: because the flash doesn't even help 'cause you cannot

American: yeah

English: take a good photo

American: for me for me it's just like speaking to yourself while watching the movie or like you know

English: to yourself

American: yeah yeah yeah a lot of people do that when they watch the movie they go like oh my god this is like this or this this and this it's like

English: oh they're probably

American: oh no you can't be doing this you know things like that

English: commenting out loud for the other person who's with them not just talking with themselves right

American: uh not necessarily some people just do it themselves and

English: okay okay okay okay

American: and regardless it's like speaking during a movie it's a bit annoying because it's like i i know what's happening on the screen i don't really need you to commentate you know and uh

English: yeah <laugh>

American: i think that that and that's pretty much it really i think that's it now everything else i don't really mind i like i don't mind laughing because i like laughing during movies even if it's like a serious movie

English: um for me i just really find it annoying if someone's speaking or uh taking photos with flash on or the one thing that you can't really do anything about it but when someone's crunching a lot with their chips bag or whatever

American: yeah it is <no-speech> you know

English: uh yeah i don't know

American: i mean that's why i'm very self conscious when i uh i mean i'm always so self conscious 'cause in place that i'm really worrying but but no um um i say i'm conscious when i when i like bring out like a chips bag or like i'm munching on popcorn or like i'm bringing out like my food i do it very slowly because i don't wanna annoy you you know i don't wanna

English: <laugh> yeah

American: because you <click>

English: i mean yeah

American: that's (()) you know

English: it's like to crunch once it's it's whatever

American: right yeah

English: you have to open the bag but to just constantly be crunching on i don't know um

American: yeah i know yeah i know many people like uh my friends you know ydolf he um he he he eats food slowly like me we eat like we crunch on it slowly because i say it doesn't make too much noise yeah

English: um i'd say that i'd enjoy watching movies by myself at home more than i do at the movie theater just because of other people like

American: yeah

English: i don't really enjoy to sh like sharing the screen with everyone

American: i think i think yeah i see that's i think movies are supposed to be in a big screen

English: yeah yes

American: movies are for big screen

English: but for me i want to be by myself and enjoy it fully and not worry

American: mm but what are you are you worrying about people like making noises

English: i just don't like i don't know i guess i like to talk to myself when i'm home watching a movie

American: okay okay

English: so in the uh in the movie theater i can't do that

American: yeah so what what do you usually say you say

English: i don't know i just comment on <laugh> it's good

American: yeah there's yeah i know you because i know

English: but i i i i've never done that in a movie theater i just do it when i'm by myself

American: yeah

English: i go like oh you no way she did that or i cheer for a character or i get really sad

American: yeah i did that i did that recently i did that recent

English: because i just feel free to do it

American: yeah yeah yeah yeah you're right you're completely right i did that i did that yesterday and it was stranger things

English: oh okay

American: and i was and and i've never usually done that i've never usually do that unless it's like a really good scene and i was just screaming like go run run run and i was just clapping i was just clapping and really loud and i think i think you're completely right but i've done that in the cinema as well like me and my friends we've done that we've got like really hyped of this scene which is

English: oh yeah

American: everyone everyone

English: was it because everyone did or was it just because you were <overlap>

American: yeah we usually usually everyone everyone everyone

English: okay okay okay

American: so for for example like you know spider man you know when the people come when they appear those three geezers

English: mm hmm

American: um we just made the you know we we make some noise and you know we get a bit hyped it was really fun

English: spoiler alert okay

American: spoiler alert really

English: <laugh> okay fair enough fair enough

American: oh yeah very fun but i think it was certain movies the sound design the atmosphere is made for a cinema example is lighthouse i think batman also was made the cinema um the sound effects the music just everything sound design nee needs to be experienced i think in the big screen um at least once i guess

English: that's fair yeah

American: i guess just for some but then again if you got a really good pair of headphones then (()) uh go for it

English: i think i'm put off from watching movies in the movie theaters because firstly tickets uh here are super pricey

American: yeah

English: and also in my hometown i there's like no movies

American: yeah yeah

English: there's just yeah i can't get there

American: yeah yeah yeah

English: so i'd have to travel two hours to get to a movie theater

American: right all right i mean that's more than fair enough i'd rather like if i were you i'd invest in maybe i don't know i i guess i i i feel like projector rooms

English: i don't need i i don't even need to inve oh a projector tha that's a cool experience i think that's cool

American: yeah a proje

English: that's

American: but i don't if i i guess get a good projector rather than the cheap one because i guess the

English: right

American: the quality will be a bit grainy but i think just get a good pair of headphones and see how the experience changes or watch on the tv at least you know

English: yeah that's fair

American: but good pair of headphones can turn the sou the sou like uh the movies are sensory right so it's what you you know what you digest with the what you digest with the eyes and then what you hear you know because you can't taste or touch a movie

English: yeah i mean the quiet place have you seen the first part you have right

American: oh yeah yeah i've seen the first part

English: that that you can't experience well on a computer or a laptop

American: mm

English: because it's all about the sound and the surround so

American: yeah

English: that's something that i had to go to the movies for

American: yeah

English: because i was just like there's no way that this could work on a

American: yeah yeah

English: and i'm glad i did because it was all about the sound and the music so yeah that one's that one's different though

American: did you watch uh did you watch in cinema

English: uh yeah

American: oh

English: i watched the second part at home but uh

American: yeah yeah

English: 'cause i knew the second part wasn't going to be as good so i didn't want to bother <laugh>

American: yeah

English: but uh uh the first part

American: is this the one that

English: when i see yeah

American: <laugh> john krasinski it's it's funny how i didn't you know because i didn't watch office before but i'd seen that's the first time i've pretty much seen john krasinski

English: yeah krasinski or kranskinski <laugh>

American: krasinski i don't know which one or how you pronounce it but one of them

English: i don't know

American: and then um yeah it's just weird to think oh wait that's the girl from you know office

English: yeah for me it was so weird to see him in a serious role 'cause i only knew him as jim from the office and i was like

American: yeah

English: there's i i don't know but he's good he's good

American: he is good he is good

English: um

American: it's nice to him as serious

English: yeah

American: um i've got another question

English: go for it

American: um did you have a favorite book or film or tv show

English: do i or did i

American: did you uh as a child

English: okay okay as a child

American: and what was it all about

English: oh that's a great question i think my favorite book was the diary of anne frank do you know much about it

American: i know the premise of it and i know the yeah i know the premise so

English: okay i think i must have read that book as a kid at least like four or five times

American: oh yeah

English: firstly 'cause i just loved ki kind of like diary type of novels or books or whatever i could get my hands off on that seemed like a diary i loved to read it 'cause i was like i just wanna know people's intimate thoughts that they're willing to share that i can read

American: yeah yeah

English: um but the second thing is obviously how tragic her destiny was that was also compelling i don't know i just kinda connected with that book it must be because i was the same age as she was when she was writing it like twelve thirteen

American: okay right

English: so i think that was my favorite book and definitely influenced a lot of i think my look at how i look at life my favorite movie

American: yeah

English: as a kid must have been truman show and i think that movie made me paranoid as a lot of people did become paranoid because of it 'cause it i ever since i watched it i every now and again i just think

American: you think about

English: someone's watching me

American: yeah

English: yes

American: i think but i so i don't think i think the whole premise of it was to like kinda indict that thought but not necessarily thinking like oh someone's watching you but to think to make you think is what we see before us like really reality and have we just accepted it

English: yeah i know it is

American: and and and i think

English: it did develop very literal number on my psyche

American: yeah i can imagine 'cause i think that did for as well

English: and what was the third thing except for you asked for a movie

American: uh tv show

English: tv show as a child probably oh there was a lot of them i watched

American: yeah

English: so many tv shows there was a channel called fox life where they played a lot of sitcoms and i would watch them so much my brothers would call me a couch potato and they said even when i turned thirty i'm gonna be still watching uh fox life from my couch

American: yeah

English: uh 'cause i just i did it so much that's probably how i learned english as well

American: that's good yeah

English: uh but i'd say the first one that i thought of was medium do you know what medium

American: medium no what is it about what is it all about

English: it stars this it stars uh a great actress i don't know if you know her her name is patricia arquette and she's basically someone who can kind of speak to ghosts but in a very like believable way in her dreams and telepathic kind of thing it's more it's more psychological than sci fi but it is

American: okay

English: sci fi obviously

American: okay yeah

English: but it's so so good so good she's such a good actress

American: yeah

English: i love that show

American: all right all right yeah

English: yeah uh those are my favorites what were yours

American: nice uh my favorite book honestly i didn't read much books as a kid if i had to be honest and briefly honest i have a hard time reading story books i love

English: fiction

American: contemplative yeah fiction i love uh non fiction i love uh philosophical books i like spiritual books contemplative uh books anything that makes me think and digest it and you know actually like resonate or meditate on it i like that stuff oh stories not so much so if i had to say probably one as a kid uh diary of the wimpy kid which is

English: i've never read that i think i wanted to though

American: yeah it's like a childhood thing like every every every child from like kinda the era like kind of yeah that that that decade or era kind of read it it was like the hype and i think i have fond memories of reading it 'cause i guess the kids in it were quite similar to the age i was so it was just really interesting and yeah nothing crazy it was just fun it was just like you know really kiddie like little adventure things like you know um i think it was one where they had to go on a holiday together and it was just interesting and the drawings were just you know they're cheap and not cheap i would say but very cartoony and it's just nice just nice

English: mm hmm

American: um my favorite film as a kid oh i watched a lot of adult movies as a kid

English: <laugh> adult

American: yeah

English: or like for grownups

American: uh grownups grownups grownups grownups grownups like i'd say like mature movies like i watch

English: yeah yeah yeah okay okay

American: i watch uh scarface you know

English: oh god

American: with al pacino i watched that when i was like eleven or ten or twelve and i would imitate and i would i'd no i would say probably around eleven eleven ten and i would imitate scarface and i would you know i'd wanna you know role model and glamorize it at school and things like that um but i and i watched i think it was godfather around then as well but i watch i was watching like things like friday the thirteenth for such a young age and i was i was into like slasher movies like

English: oh

American: i was into like uh i was really obsessed with jason voorhees for some reason uh

English: who

American: jason voorhees friday the thirteenth you know the guy with the hockey mask

English: jason voorhee oh

American: yes yes yes from friday the thirteenth that series the slasher series i was just really obsessed with

English: oh my god

American: and i don't i think i guess it was it was a bit like i was watching things like alien vs predator and i really was obsessed with predator and things like that just all these like you know mature movies so if i have to say a favorite film which i watched over and over again i think i have a strong attachment or liking of simple and beautiful spider man two sam raimi's two thousand four spider man two it had all the trips a kid couldn't understand but could appreciate for sure like things

English: okay

American: like love uh things like a really cool villain uh a broken villain who was a had a decent kind of story at the beginning and an introduction of like you know this guy is really cool and then becomes a octopus killer guy but it was just awesome from the soundtrack from uh who's the who did the soundtrack for sam raimi's it was uh he still does music now uh

English: mm hmm

American: who's it you know who did the spider man two

English: no i don't let me look it up

American: really big guy really big really big famous the name were (())

English: jay robert harris paul francis webster

American: no no no no

English: not harris

American: no no no no no

English: spider man

American: danny elfman there you go

English: okay i've never heard of that person

American: danny elfman you've never heard of danny elfman

English: no <laugh>

American: uh he did the he did the score for the original batman he did the score for beetlejuice tim burtons he did the score for doctor strange in the multiverse of madness he did the soundtrack for charlie and the chocolate factory he did ed edward scissorhands he did uh alice in wonderland apparently fifty shades of gray men in black

English: oh my goodness

American: uh

English: you wanna know something funny

American: what

English: <laugh> i was gonna oh take a look at fifty shades of gray and i couldn't get past the first two minutes it was so cringey

American: yeah

English: the acting is so weird the script the the dialogue it's just it seems like a child wrote that i don't

American: yeah

English: i i just couldn't

American: yeah i can imagine but yeah all right so i mean i was gonna pick yeah spider man two and my favorite tv showcartoon

English: oh let's go with tv show

American: tv show

English: just a

American: i didn't watch any t i didn't watch tv shows so i'm gonna go to the cartoon i think

English: okay okay okay okay okay

American: i'm gonna go with oh

English: spongebob

American: oh it's a tough one it's out to spongebob or uh ed edd n eddy and it's a tough one

English: ed edd n but you

American: ed edd n eddy

English: didn't watch a single tv show like lost or anything like that

American: as a kid no not really like

English: no

American: i was more into like family guy and south park i think south park damn it's tough it's tough 'cause it's interesting 'cause most of my humor is based on that you know like south park and south park and spongebob pretty much that's all it is like that's um accumulation

English: that's such a weird mix 'cause one of them is such innocent humor and the other one is dirty and vulgar

American: yeah and and i think that i mean that describes me well doesn't it

English: <laugh> uh i don't know

American: that is think about it

English: i think you just like memes that no one understands <overlap>

American: uh <laugh> i did before now i just love anything like organic memes being like things like situations in my life and then a lot like spongebob situations honestly and south park situations but if i had to pick one oh it's tough i'm gonna go with south park because i have the most fond memories of binging all the south park episodes i played world of warcraft because of south park 'cause that one episode <no-speech> um so i'm gonna go with south park it was just funny it was just ahead ahead of its time it was satire to like kinda re real life situations and really made into satire and it was awesome awesome

English: mm hmm

American: yeah

English: okay

American: what's your next question

English: me it's my turn um are you very motivated to do things or do you kind of need to wait for motivation to strike you

American: see i think i'm gonna question your question no i'm not gonna question your question i'm gonna say <overlap>

English: you can no it's it's okay

American: no what i'm what i'm gonna say i think you need to be more sp specific it's like well am i motivated to do things or what

English: yeah just everyday things whether they're big projects or just like a shower or anything do you feel like you're mostly unmotivated or uh like generally a motivated person

American: i think gen i think gen

English: like jumps the gun

American: i think genuinely motivated but they're they're definitely phases where i can't be asked to do anything and i'm very become very lazy it's a mix really it's a spectrum and it's a mix for me but hey for the most part like if i need to brush my teeth i need to do something sometimes i don't do them i can't be asked but most for the most part if i say i need to do something i usually do it um yeah

English: but now what uh chores that people give you like things that people want you to do for them

American: yeah yeah yeah

English: like for school do you feel motivated right away

American: yeah yeah but that's different it depends if like who people who are these people you know it's like it's different for everyone it's different for everyone

English: family and friends

American: family and friends and school is completely different 'cause it depends on if you're invested in school or not for me for me uh yeah i can do everything family want me to do it's so cool sometimes i'm forgetful and usually i'm forgetful but it doesn't mean that i won't do it if you remind me i'll do it i'm motivated to do it um school i'm motivated to do the things that which i enjoy and things that i'm not really got got much interest or passionate about then i have a hard time getting motivated about but you can see how it's all different across the board there's no like one general like motivation it's kind of mixed really for me

English: okay fair enough

American: how about yourself

English: um i think my motivation depends a lot of my on my physical well being because when you're like a bit anemic like i am uh you're just like life energy gets sucked out of you

American: yeah

English: and you're not like the psychological motivation isn't even in question 'cause i just need to lay in bed but i don't think i've described myself as lazy sometimes i just need to say okay i can't do these things today and that's it i guess i do procrastinate on work quite a bit

American: yeah

English: obviously 'cause

American: that's really <overlap> yeah definitely procrastination

English: procrastination but always do it on time somehow

American: yeah

English: i guess

American: you just say you're motivated that uh when you're at the last straw

English: yeah i guess my motivation is like um

American: the same as me

English: it depends on free will like if i feel like i need to do something or i have to do it i put it off but if something is by my free will

American: yeah

English: then i do it faster and i'm mo more motivated

American: yeah 'cause it comes from a place

English: i don't know

American: it doesn't come from a place of forcing

English: mm hmm

American: yeah

English: yeah it's awesome i love them um uh to do okay my question is uh do you believe there is anything after death

American: oh uh i it's such a loaded question

English: it's simple one i guess i don't know <overlap>

American: no it's not no it's not no it's not for me personally okay

English: what do you think what do you think wha

American: i i don't think

English: what do you yeah

American: i don't think that there is such

English: know for sure right

American: huh

English: i said obviously you don't know for sure because no one knows what happens after death but

American: no no no everyone has an opinion on on it i personally don't think that there's anything such as like wha like reincarnation or heaven or hell like all those things are such c co like uh such material concepts that were just like uh that's what we can think of with our limited human capacity to think i think whatever comes after you die with your consciousness is something that the human brain cannot comprehend and therefore

English: uh huh

American: it cannot be put in terms of words or even something that we can imagine

English: right

American: it's just something way beyond

English: fair

American: i think what happens with the body is clear but

English: right yeah

American: what happens with the consciousness that's something that we can't comprehend and therefore i can only dream or imagine about it but i can't really i can't really

English: yeah

American: buy the idea that i come back as something or that i

English: <overlap>

American: move on to like this heaven or hell i i don't know

English: okay yeah yeah

American: i think some sort of energy that is left behind me even if it's like a physical sense of energy or

English: yeah

American: whatever that can transform into other things material even even or even

English: yeah yeah

American: other people so in that sense it could be similar to reincarnation but yeah

English: yeah yeah that's interesting yeah

American: okay what about you

English: i think you i think you're definitely i think i had a i think i hundred percent agree with it it's something we can't fathom <overlap>

American: glimpses of and touch but i think we need to understand that there's been people that have been far ahead and they've been under they've felt and i've experienced the unfathomable unfathomable and they've kind of like you know they gave into the dialects but again that's just things like we've been told and it's like some things like things like heaven all this heaven and hell and things like yeah it's projections of like you know different states of whatever this and this and this

English: i just think

American: for me for for me for me personally for me personally like i'm basing my experience and feeling it feels like okay this is like i would like to believe like there is i don't know even isn't even a form of liking it's like well whatever happens happens but i definitely think there's there there is there is reincarnation for no reason there could be possibly reincarnation but there's something it's something there's definitely different higher planes of existence and like reality and things like that which we can definitely transcend but there definitely isn't just the end of because i don't think there's the end of anything i think there's a very there's a continuation of like a a stream of consciousness going somewhere else uh then plus with us going somewhere else because it always is somewhere like it's always constant it's it's always somewhere it's always somewhere or someplace but i i do believe i do believe there is like a thought of of reincarnation again this is just a thought but i think a lot of people have tapped into understanding uh understanding

English: okay

American: a more deeper understanding of life and that i think that ranges from people uh i think when i was reading this book recently uh it's talking about how um uh if you you know people have a past regression like you know people can learn about their past lives you know and when they when they learn about their past lives and things like that they usually don't like it because it reminds them that you know they've they've been through a lot of things over and over again which i think you know it makes me feel as if like we've been we we've done a lot of things in life especially in this existence on this plane we've done a lot of things a lot a lot of things and i think uh it feels almost it feels more like um we'll reincarnate again and again and again maybe not again and again and again but maybe reincarnate in different form but there's definitely a stream of consciousness when we move into some other plane i think

English: okay that's fair well we need to start another meeting so because this one's out of time so

American: has this fully ended

English: uh no it hasn't yet but it will in a minute but

American: yeah

English: i'll just send you an invite again okay

American: yeah

English: because a forty minute limit and unless you upgrade so i'll just send you

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