International: yeah

Bulgarian: <laugh> yeah

International: i can't re did i go running in the end i think i probably did once and then

Bulgarian: yeah

International: it was too intensive and i didn't want to do it again the story of my life

Bulgarian: oh i thought it was too awkward or something for you

International: or maybe too awkward yeah

Bulgarian: <laugh>

International: i think with these things it's just good to have really small goals like non almost nonexistent goals and then yeah

Bulgarian: hm i think

International: it's easier

Bulgarian: the best thing is to have someone to do it with

International: yeah ideally

Bulgarian: so both of you can yep

International: yeah

Bulgarian: i deally that's right

International: and it's really hard to find someone to do it though with though

Bulgarian: mm

International: in in yoga i was actually really lucky this year because one of my friends trained to be a yoga teacher and

Bulgarian: oh wow

International: uh she has this kind of uh really unlimited pass for this one yoga studio and she lives nearby and she tried to convince me to go with her sometimes so we started this routine on saturday morning we try to go to yoga and then after that we go out for coffee and breakfast or brunch which you make fun of

Bulgarian: yes brunch okay <laugh>

International: uh exactly brunch for old ladies

Bulgarian: yeah yeah

International: um and actually i think that became a really good routine because i now want to go even if we're not going to have brunch after that so uh

Bulgarian: yeah that's nice

International: like it's now intrinsically rewarding as opposed to extrinsically so

Bulgarian: yep

International: it's good

Bulgarian: i mean hm that's what i'm doing right now with uh my roommate we're going

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: climbing together

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: yeah

International: that's awesome

Bulgarian: if one of us yeah if one of us is feeling lazy the other one is pushing him to go so yeah

International: but have you ever been the one who's pushing

Bulgarian: yeah i have

International: oh wow

Bulgarian: because yeah

International: i'm impressed

Bulgarian: wow yeah

International: good so uh what what has it been like going climbing what kind of

Bulgarian: it is very fun

International: level do you feel you're at at the moment do you

Bulgarian: i'm still kind of beginner like

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: yeah but i'm starting to the most promising the best thing with climbing is that you're there are different like levels and they are quite well planned out uh i think i should say

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: yeah and it is very clear when you're making progress like its really noticeable because there are so many levels you can go to and

International: hm

Bulgarian: yeah you can like

International: how many levels

Bulgarian: i mean i think like the levels start from four which is just like extremely easy stuff like anyone first time could do it and then they go up to like uh seven eight nine so like right now i'm at six six b

International: wow

Bulgarian: and uh they have like six b

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: which is uh it's sometimes tricky but they are not just difficult not that difficult

International: hm

Bulgarian: but there are like when it gets to like way harder like it scales exponentially i should say

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: the levels so yeah six is pretty average still seven is

International: actually it does sounds like towards the upper end of the continuum

Bulgarian: no no no upper end is like seven seven eight yeah

International: okay

Bulgarian: this way i can get or like six c like these things for me right now are impossible although i'm

International: mm

Bulgarian: doing grade six b

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: like i cannot even like get one hook correctly like i cannot stay on the wall

International: hm

Bulgarian: for a second so yeah

International: okay well one of my friends uh occasionally he does climbing and he keeps talking about how much uh difference it makes what your body type is and

Bulgarian: true

International: certain things that are super easy for a short person are really difficult for a tall person and vice versa

Bulgarian: exactly yeah yeah yeah this is exactly like

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: uh yeah sometimes because we're like a bit taller than av

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: than average uh we can just skip some holes

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: and this makes it like so much easier infinitely times more easier because if i were shorter person like i would actually have to do the difficult holes but yeah so

International: yeah oh so you can cheat <laugh>

Bulgarian: yeah i i'm literally we're literally cheating <laugh>

International: i see

Bulgarian: yeah but uh of course like when you have to squeeze or hold somewhere it can be bad if you're tall so yeah

International: mm hmm and um yeah that same friend of mine finds that um his uh finger strength isn't very good like his joints are not very strong

Bulgarian: yeah well

International: do you have that

Bulgarian: well yeah of course but for climbing like these fingers is the most important thing so

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: yeah

International: so you develop it

Bulgarian: yeah that that's the thing yeah the main exercise is just to hold like hang

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: on just on your fingers

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: for as long as you can

International: you used to do pull ups i remember and you were really good at that

Bulgarian: yeah

International: does that help

Bulgarian: yeah uh it's mandatory like yeah

International: okay

Bulgarian: yeah <laugh>

International: yeah

Bulgarian: it's pretty much mandatory

International: that's why

Bulgarian: you have to be really good and you like sometimes there are a lot of uh things like on a lot of walls you just have to do them at an awkward angle you basically have to pull yourself up

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: and it requires a lot of strength

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: and uh or

International: i think maybe yeah that's why it's not for me because i

Bulgarian: oh well it depends well you know like walls that uh like it depends on the incline of the wall

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: like if the incline is uh i'm not sure if it's negative but if it's swollen

International: yeah

Bulgarian: yeah if it's like that

International: yeah

Bulgarian: then

International: you have to

Bulgarian: it it needs a lot of strength yeah but sometimes they're like slightly uh like negative i should say

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: so you can lean on the wall

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: and just balance which these are like way more fun for me

International: yeah

Bulgarian: just doing some balancing so yeah

International: sounds fun

Bulgarian: mm

International: that's good and have you ever met anyone through this uh mountain climbing

Bulgarian: oh yeah for

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: yeah i've met two people which are like mutual friends of gergei oh

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: whoops

International: i think that's a fairly common name

Bulgarian: yeah let's just say

International: it should be okay <laugh>

Bulgarian: yeah whoops uh

International: yeah

Bulgarian: uh yeah uh i've met two friends

International: okay

Bulgarian: i guess like mutual friends

International: okay

Bulgarian: not gonna say names of course

International: don't <laugh> yeah i i mean if you were gonna say a name that's like a pretty common name so you can't really

Bulgarian: hm

International: yeah um but yeah speaking of names i i've been doing a little bit of uh um you know part of my job is to record people for experiments as well

Bulgarian: yep

International: and i'm the recordings are supposed to be anonymous and

Bulgarian: mm hmm

International: i'm interacting with small children so

Bulgarian: <laugh> oh

International: and i have to encourage them and keep them motivated to do the task so uh last it oh when was it i think it was um was it yesterday yeah it was yesterday it feels like ages ago i recorded this tiny kid and i said his name in one of the recordings so now i went back to the audio and it's easy enough to just cut out that

Bulgarian: yep

International: specific word and now i'm kind of challenging myself to cut it out in a way that it doesn't sound like there is anything missing so uh that's also possible to do often so uh

Bulgarian: yeah

International: there are ways of modifying

Bulgarian: yeah it's possible

International: recordings yeah

Bulgarian: hm yeah

International: some of them

Bulgarian: although like how can you manage to keep the kids anonymous uh just

International: oh i mean you just don't or you just say you're and like oh you're doing such a great job hard work

Bulgarian: well no no but uh what if the kid decides to say a name

International: oh no uh they don't

Bulgarian: how do you control them

International: they don't really have a reason to 'cause i'm asking them to say very specific words and also quite often although not always their intelligibility is quite low anyways so

Bulgarian: mm hmm

International: even if they say something it won't be understood um because of their condition so

Bulgarian: mm hmm

International: um yeah it's hasn't been a problem but i can imagine if we're having a conversation it could become one it's just me keeping them on task and the task is for them to read words so

Bulgarian: mm hmm yeah oh they're just reading words okay

International: yeah exactly so it's not really conversational

Bulgarian: mm hmm

International: yeah i'm just looking at the other questions i think we're towards the end of this anyway but

Bulgarian: yeah i think so too

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: i think we're maybe i'm not sure

International: uh

Bulgarian: do you have a timer or something like that

International: i think we started at i should've but you know that would've been smart

Bulgarian: wow yeah <laugh>

International: you're the smart one in this family

Bulgarian: whoops

International: yeah no so we i think we started at thirty five past so

Bulgarian: yeah let me see

International: yeah

Bulgarian: oh i think we can turn yeah uh twenty minutes ago well we can talk for like two or three more minutes

International: yeah just to round it up so what are your

Bulgarian: mm

International: plans for the rest of the evening

Bulgarian: mm my plan i'm just going to play games with um

International: you have someone

Bulgarian: someone who not i mention yeah

International: mm hmm

Bulgarian: and that's it and then i'm gonna go to sleep

International: good

Bulgarian: mm you

International: yeah i need to reply to work emails because i don't have work life balance and uh also get ready for a trip because tomorrow um

Bulgarian: okay

International: uh the person that i live with is going to come around and pick me up from work and work is in glasgow so

Bulgarian: mm

International: um then we're going to drive off to this event for the weekend so i won't be home again for a couple of days

Bulgarian: mm hmm

International: and i i feel a bit stressed out because i like being at home in the evenings and making myself

Bulgarian: wow

International: cozy and comfortable

Bulgarian: wow okay

International: but yeah socializing has to happen at some point they say it's good for you so

Bulgarian: that's true

International: yeah

Bulgarian: yeah

International: that's what i'm gonna do

Bulgarian: well you don't like going out do you

International: not for a long time i like it in controlled amounts

Bulgarian: okay

International: and knowing that i can always go back home

Bulgarian: okay

International: but when we're going to be away in a social environment

Bulgarian: <laugh> wow

International: i can't just leave you know <laugh>

Bulgarian: no going back it's like in the world of the rain soon

International: yeah

Bulgarian: they go through the mindset more ye yeah

International: yeah

Bulgarian: mhm

International: cool i think we should be able to wrap this up

Bulgarian: yep i think so too

International: okie doke

Bulgarian: let's that is enough yep

International: yeah i'm stopping it