Indian: um hi my participant number is c fifteen p one um i'm just going to read the paragraph um please call stella ask her to bring these things with her from the store six spoons of fresh snow peas five thick slabs of blue cheese and maybe a snack for her brother bob we also need a plastic snake and a big toy for toy frog for the kids she can scoop these things into three red bags and we will go meet her wednesday at that train station

Indian: hi my participant number is c fifteen p two and it's my turn to read the paragraph please call stella ask her to bring these things with her from the store six spoons of fresh snow peas five thick slabs of blue cheese and maybe a snack for her brother bob we also need a small plastic snake and a big toy frog for the kids she can scoop these things into three red bags and we will go meet her wednesday at that train station we we do have a conversation now

Indian: yeah

Indian: okay

Indian: so what are we talking about

Indian: uh yeah so the topic that we've chosen was basically what was the first uh movie that we watched that was based on a book so for me it's alice in wonderland what was it for you

Indian: uh for me i think it's harry potter like

Indian: first the first one

Indian: yeah the first one i mean i remember reading uh philosopher's oh <laugh> sorcerer's stone and then i watched the movie like my sister told me that there are movies on these books

Indian: mm hmm

Indian: and then i watched it and it was amusing the first one was a really nice one

Indian: mm hmm true what was your favorite uh have you seen all the seven harry potter movies or oh wait

Indian: yes yes yes um i'm a pureblood <laugh>

Indian: sure you are uh what is what what's your favorite one out of all of those

Indian: i think the first one because so the first one was like the exact like the most appropriate representation of what i had thought

Indian: mm hmm

Indian: what i had imagined from the book

Indian: mm hmm

Indian: um so the first one was the most appropriate one for me

Indian: mm hmm that makes sense

Indian: and that's just yeah and it was also like uh i don't know it was nice and good

Indian: like like ver very similar to what she wrote at least like jk rowling wrote

Indian: yeah exactly

Indian: that makes sense

Indian: what about you how did you feel after watching alice in wonderland

Indian: hey it was alice in wonderland was an animation movie of course so it was interesting of course but um i obviously preferred the books i actually preferred the sequel to alice in wonderland called through the looking glass much more than

Indian: oh yes i remember their poem jabberwocky

Indian: 'twas brillig and the slithy toves

Indian: yeah

Indian: and then gimble in the wabe (()) i forgot it's a nonsense poem

Indian: yeah

Indian: because it's it's

Indian: hung have you watched hunger games

Indian: have i watched hunger games i have watched the first movie that that's the

Indian: have you read hunger games

Indian: yeah i have read hunger games of course i've read hunger games

Indian: <overlap>

Indian: the hunger games honestly i think okay like i this is going to be a spoiler filled conversation i feel <laugh> but the ending of hunger games do you remember it or not

Indian: yeah i have read it i've watched it

Indian: yeah right so it's so realistic right

Indian: yeah

Indian: that's exactly what happens and that is why i hate it so much

Indian: the my favorite part of hunger games was like uh katniss the dresses that she wore

Indian: oh right cinna yeah

Indian: yeah cinna

Indian: those creations

Indian: so every time like and the representation of it in movies also was so amazing like i realized she would open some dress and she'd turn into mockingjay or something

Indian: yeah that's true i mean i think that's the uh the two dresses right the first is one where she's on fire 'cause like she's <overlap>

Indian: yeah yeah

Indian: and then other one is the one where she turns into the mockingjay right

Indian: yeah and there's another one when they are re when they are called again for the games

Indian: mm hmm

Indian: when all that when sh when they say that's she's pregnant she comes as a bride um

Indian: oh she oh i i haven't seen that part so i don't remember

Indian: oh so there's this like every her dresses always for me i don't know her dress dress speaks way more than anything else that's happening there

Indian: yeah

Indian: like it's a it's a story of its own

Indian: fair enough um i get it i mean that is what uh they wanted to show in the books also right like that was

Indian: yeah

Indian: the plotline with cinna that he used the like he used fashion to bring up and it is just actually interesting to think about considering like throughout at least the first book they really keep describing the capitol's fashion and how outrageous it is

Indian: exactly exactly

Indian: just cinna using it to you know create to like display katniss' personality in such a like it's a so her like he literally just turns it on its head turns the trope on its head like the outrageous fashion and it's like suddenly becomes uh what do you call it like like a symbol

Indian: exactly it becomes a symbol and like expression because you can't

Indian: mm hmm

Indian: really say anything against the capitol out loud

Indian: mm hmm

Indian: you can't stand against the capitol

Indian: yeah

Indian: and so like this is very subtly rebelling against the capitol

Indian: mm hmm

Indian: which was extremely amazing

Indian: mm hmm that's true actually like i i feel like for i mean it was pretty brilliant how if you look at it for um for like the people of the capitol that was just another kind of outrageous fashion for at least the

Indian: yeah

Indian: capitol people they were like oh wow look at this new designer <laugh> like new york fashion type feelings

Indian: yeah

Indian: but for the people in power like president snow and all these people

Indian: yeah yeah yeah

Indian: he knew what it meant and and this is also why they basically killed cinna like

Indian: yeah which is why they killed cinna

Indian: yeah

Indian: like even the reporter um who used to like host the whole uh event of the games

Indian: uh effie effie trinket

Indian: oh yeah i cannot remember his name (()) her name

Indian: <laugh> huh

Indian: so um even the host was very um i don't know how to say like she knew what questions to ask

Indian: mm hmm true

Indian: she knew what questions to ask and how to get information like

Indian: yeah mm hmm

Indian: whenever uh katniss used to show up and she used to you know wear some like like some dress and something

Indian: mm hmm mm hmm

Indian: he used to call her out that she used to point that she used to bring attention to that

Indian: yeah

Indian: like you know this is the message <overlap>

Indian: i like the effie trinket's character to be honest

Indian: well i liked hunger games a lot like it was a very

Indian: mm hmm

Indian: good book and movie

Indian: yeah like it was one of the dystopian books done right even though

Indian: yeah

Indian: the thing is like again like back to the ending it was it's not like it was the perfect ending it was a brilliant ending

Indian: yeah true true

Indian: it was just that it was so goddamn realistic that i didn't like it

Indian: okay were you

Indian: because

Indian: team oh go ahead

Indian: oh no i was just saying okay this is the problem like you usually fall into like these kind of books to you know (()) the hero comes out on top at the end of the um

Indian: yeah yeah yeah

Indian: they win everything and they live happily ever after and bullshit and then this this like woman just comes in and just literally pulls the rug out from under her feet going oh by you know by the way the real look is like this i'm like i don't want to know

Indian: <laugh> were you teams peeta or team gale was it team gale

Indian: the love the the love interest yeah yeah gale i think i'm team peeta <overlap>

Indian: yeah uh same

Indian: <laugh> like i i completely understand the whole uh what do you call it you uh in the last book not the whole thing with like which one will you choose and like

Indian: yeah

Indian: the reasoning is solid man honestly like seriously i don't like katniss doesn't need someone who adds fire to her fire she already has all of that

Indian: yeah

Indian: like ticking time bomb <overlap>

Indian: exactly i mean the concept of yin yang opposites attract

Indian: yeah they

Indian: someone who can calm you down

Indian: exactly yeah peeta's like the water to her fire she doesn't need uh doesn't need oil to be added to her flames

Indian: yeah by the way teams remind me uh like which team were you on twilight

Indian: eh why why would you bring that up

Indian: i know

Indian: no none of them

Indian: i don't know why i suddenly remembered

Indian: absolutely none of them no

Indian: team edward or team jacob

Indian: neither

Indian: <laugh>

Indian: freaking what no i please no we're not

Indian: i was team taylor lautner

Indian: oh my god that's just

Indian: shirtless taylor lautner

Indian: that's horrifying <no-speech> <laugh> i don't want to talk about twilight please like it has been

Indian: okay

Indian: it has been more than fifteen years now i but uh

Indian: yeah

Indian: anyway what how did we even end up at twi oh yeah because of the teams eh let's move on to like

Indian: mm hmm

Indian: what what else um i like thinking back to harry potter you said you liked the first movie i would actually say i i liked the third one the best like i find that

Indian: oh a lot of people choose prisoner

Indian: yeah

Indian: of azkaban

Indian: yeah i feel like that was the more like the closest to like i mean the first one was obviously very close but i feel like the third one captured the what is it called um the aura the environment

Indian: <no-speech>

Indian: the i i don't know just it it really captured the essence of the

Indian: mm hmm

Indian: book really well that's probably just because alfonso cuaron but

Indian: yes

Indian: because that guy's brilliant but in general that was the one that i really liked uh and then

Indian: i don't know

Indian: it just went downhill

Indian: no i really liked the fifth one the fifth one was really nice with like because also because like i really like luna lovegood she's one of my favorite

Indian: oh

Indian: characters

Indian: uh huh

Indian: and the fifth was the one like it was also one of the saddest books but also the happiest because everybody was there like there was remus there was sirius there was luna

Indian: mm hmm

Indian: fred

Indian: mm hmm

Indian: george everyone like the whole order of phoenix

Indian: yeah it was like uh the one happy moment before everything went to shit

Indian: exactly the calm before the storm

Indian: the calm before the storm that makes sense uh i didn't actually

Indian: yeah

Indian: enjoy the fifth one that much to be honest i don't know why though i think it was just because by that time i had stopped really liking the actors also (())

Indian: ah

Indian: maybe

Indian: makes sense

Indian: i feel um yeah

Indian: i did not like uh prisoner of azkaban at all

Indian: really <laugh>

Indian: yeah i don't know like the chamber of secrets is my most hated one

Indian: yeah i don't like chamber of secrets myself

Indian: and then prisoner of azkaban or also goblet of fire

Indian: also what goblet

Indian: goblet of fire

Indian: yeah in goblet of fire so i was so annoyed at the fact that they like goblet of fire was probably one of my favorite books out of the series <overlap>

Indian: same same what i was going to say

Indian: yeah i think it was because of the whole uh triwizard tournament the challenges

Indian: exactly and the new schools and new

Indian: yeah yeah yeah characters

Indian: like knowing that there are other

Indian: yeah

Indian: magic magic schools

Indian: yeah exactly like all of that and then um what is it called ah and then the fact that they just removed everything from the maze like i loved the whole maze

Indian: oh yes

Indian: of the triwizard tournament and

Indian: yeah

Indian: removed all the cool things like the sphinx and everything from the maze and they <overlap>

Indian: yeah

Indian: this weird uh i don't know american deep south body horror <laugh>

Indian: yeah also like the whole meme about um harry did you put your name in the goblet of fire

Indian: oh my god dumbledore asked calmly

Indian: exactly dumbledore asked calmly <laugh>

Indian: <laugh> like in the movie (()) flies across the room shakes harry and he's like did you oh relax

Indian: another thing that i will never

Indian: <overlap> this much emotion

Indian: forget in these

Indian: ah

Indian: movies is that they put the whole blame on shawshanks for like for telling umbridge

Indian: all the yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah wasn't it the

Indian: (())

Indian: other one the ma marietta

Indian: yeah it was shawshanks then some

Indian: edgecombe something something something

Indian: yes

Indian: hmm

Indian: but obviously they they don't show half of the characters and so

Indian: yeah also they tried to

Indian: the whole

Indian: get rid of shawshanks so that ginny would come in as the love interest

Indian: exactly in the book ginny is so cool man

Indian: oh exactly

Indian: in the book ginny is so cool but in the movies they just shown her as some idiot

Indian: yeah

Indian: dumb person

Indian: yeah i don't like movie ginny at all like

Indian: the book ginny was so <overlap>

Indian: it's a watered down version of the book ginny

Indian: (())

Indian: uh huh

Indian: book ginny was amazing like

Indian: yeah yeah yeah yeah

Indian: she she was good at quidditch she was

Indian: yeah

Indian: she knew how to tackle all her seven brothers

Indian: yeah right like she was good at bat bogey hexes <laugh>

Indian: exactly she was good at that good at hexes and then she

Indian: yeah i i felt i don't know like after so i mean like now i'm talking about harry potter like this but generally after this whole debacle with like jk rowling i just

Indian: mm hmm

Indian: don't have the same sense of connection with harry potter anymore

Indian: i don't know because they for me yes as a person maybe jk rowling

Indian: mm hmm

Indian: is bad or whatever her books are different like

Indian: true

Indian: (()) of the author is (())

Indian: <laugh> you are a very very bad person but okay

Indian: <laugh> no seriously i mean books are completely different they have got nothing to do with

Indian: with

Indian: jk rowling other than the fact that she wrote it

Indian: mmm

Indian: it's sep it's separate from her

Indian: fair enough but yeah i mean i don't think like i have the capacity to completely differentiate the art from the artist so

Indian: oh

Indian: <overlap> lose interest in things like in art when the artist

Indian: yeah

Indian: <no-speech> good person so that and also because of course like my favorite what do you call it um my favorite book has always been lord of the rings so

Indian: ah

Indian: like you really

Indian: what was the first series you've read

Indian: the first series i've read a lot actually but maybe maybe narnia i think the chronicles of narnia probably

Indian: it was your first

Indian: i am not sure like the the that was the one that i remember because i read c s lewis when i was really young like i was nine

Indian: exactly

Indian: or so i think so

Indian: yeah

Indian: i'm i'm sure i would have probably read other stuff before like i read a lot of you know the famous five secret seven

Indian: oh yes yes

Indian: like that all that but

Indian: nancy drew

Indian: nancy drew hardy boys but when i read

Indian: (())

Indian: series oh oh you remember the enid blyton the school um well school series malory tower st clare

Indian: oh yes yes yes yes yes yes

Indian: yeah

Indian: yes

Indian: that i feel like if i if you want to call it uh like series if you want to know then i would say that those were the ones that i read sixth <overlap>

Indian: no mine was eragon the

Indian: ah

Indian: the fire dragon

Indian: eragon yeah yeah yeah oh

Indian: eragon

Indian: i i read that actually really like surprisingly i read eragon really late like when i was even percy jackson for example like these are the books that you're

Indian: <no-speech>

Indian: reading in like your preteens right but

Indian: yeah

Indian: then i had never like nobody like had ever given these to me when i was at that age

Indian: yes

Indian: and so i ended up reading them at like seventeen eighteen and i didn't like them at all

Indian: oh

Indian: eragon specifically because it was very similar to lord i mean paolini christopher paolini himself said that he

Indian: yeah

Indian: <overlap> inspirations from the lord of the rings

Indian: yeah

Indian: and so because i had read the lord of the rings first then eragon just seemed like this watered down copy and i was like okay i didn't enjoy that that much

Indian: ah

Indian: same with percy jackson like i think just because i had crossed the age for

Indian: exactly

Indian: yeah i didn't enjoy it wasn't it the same for you

Indian: no um i read i started with eragon and i read it in fifth like when i was in fifth standard

Indian: mm hmm

Indian: and then i then i started harry potter then hunger games then the divergent series and like then twilight

Indian: oh

Indian: it was a back to back series

Indian: <laugh> mm hmm that makes sense yeah but actually i'm pretty much same like when these ones were anyway coming out when we were like fifteen sixteen right

Indian: yes i when i read harry potter i was eleven like i started harry potter when i was

Indian: harry potter

Indian: eleven and by the time

Indian: ah

Indian: i finished it like

Indian: yeah

Indian: uh because it was difficult to arrange books at that time i could not find all the books at once

Indian: uh huh

Indian: so like i had to give gaps even though i did not really want to

Indian: oh that makes sense

Indian: but i still had to wait because it was difficult to find books and then um

Indian: ah

Indian: but also harry potter which is why i was a hardcore potterhead because

Indian: ah

Indian: i read it around the same age

Indian: ah oh

Indian: um when it was written and so i was all like you know houses and <overlap>

Indian: i remember reading the read the like i the good thing with me was that um we had all the like my mother used to handle the books in the school library right like she would <overlap>

Indian: oh

Indian: and so i could just like put in (()) oh by the way

Indian: yeah

Indian: this is the book i want to read just so i read through all the seven books like i started at like when i was ten i think

Indian: mm hmm

Indian: and then uh the last like book seven came when i was in class seven that's when i was thirteen

Indian: ah

Indian: so i read book seven uh then only

Indian: i see

Indian: now once i read that i moved onto of course like the other series like like hunger games and

Indian: yeah

Indian: and the well some of you you had like divergent (()) these are all the apocalypse

Indian: yeah yeah

Indian: <overlap> at that point of time it was

Indian: yes

Indian: so funny thinking

Indian: it was

Indian: huh what

Indian: there were these phases for me like first there was this apocalypse and dystopian future and stuff

Indian: mm hmm

Indian: then there were like books based on cancer and

Indian: mm hmm

Indian: you know trauma ptsd

Indian: mm hmm mm hmm hmm

Indian: so i had like kite runner and (())

Indian: oh yeah

Indian: back to back like

Indian: <overlap> i haven't read <overlap>

Indian: yeah

Indian: you know that right <laugh>

Indian: you haven't read (())

Indian: i i tried okay i tried like okay so basically the thing what happened was okay i won't say i haven't read it but basically what happened was i was in what ninth tenth i don't know the ninth i think and all these people were you know after well maybe eleventh i don't even know but i was

Indian: yeah at eleventh because i remember i had like exams or something (()) i was not reading and i don't think <no-speech>

Indian: yeah so um maybe okay anyway so if i was in eleventh i would have been like sixteen or som seventeen and these people were like yo you'll read it read it you'll cry so much you'll cry so much and i kept waiting for the time that i would cry and i was like i the book ended and i was like where am i supposed to cry

Indian: same

Indian: i don't know it was too i i i i have no idea like too cheesy for me

Indian: the book and even the movie was too

Indian: uh huh

Indian: and i mean i don't know it it felt fake for some reason i have

Indian: true

Indian: no other words to explain it it just felt fake as if someone was trying too hard to make it you emotional about cancer

Indian: yeah it's like it was it was basically like nicholas sparks on like crack

Indian: oh yes but

Indian: <laugh> i think we should also like

Indian: one

Indian: stop chatting in like

Indian: oh yes

Indian: this call (()) forty minutes about it

Indian: <laugh>

Indian: anyway uh go ahead finish with your thought

Indian: yeah i was saying that a book that actually did make me cry a lot a lot was ps i love you

Indian: oh wow my god

Indian: i was a kid okay i was in fifth standard when i read it

Indian: why would you do that to yourself but okay

Indian: i don't know

Indian: i'll i'll reserve judgment on this then because you were young

Indian: okay

Indian: right okay thank you bye

Indian: thanks bye bye <laugh>