German: hi my participant number is c two zero dash p one and i'm gonna read out the passage please call stella ask her to bring these things with her from the store six spoons of fresh snow peas five thick slabs of blue cheese and maybe a snack for her brother bob we also need a small plastic snake and a big toy frog for the kids she can scoop these things into three red bags and we will go meet her wednesday at the train station

English: hi my participant number is c twenty dash p two and i'm going to read the passage please call stella ask her to bring these things with her from the store six spoons of fresh snow peas five thick slabs of blue cheese and maybe a snack for her brother bob we also need a small plastic snake and a big toy frog for the kids she can scoop these things into three red bags and we will go meet her wednesday at the trains station all right

German: so let's talk about food

English: yeah

German: food is a good topic isn't it

English: my favorite

German: um how what what was your favorite food growing up

English: oh my goodness well it's kind of difficult to answer because uh what with my brother's diet restrictions there was a six month period where i had spaghetti every day for dinner and not by choice um

German: it's traumatic i guess

English: very traumatic despite this one of my favorite foods was still spaghetti with tomato sauce and cheese

German: fair enough

English: which speaks to the prevailing nature of pasta um apart from that it's kind of hard to remember i really liked hummus which i feel like is quite sophisticated

German: oh

English: but i really like

German: yes

English: just like on its own and stuff on bread and things that was very very nice and i liked um i liked colin the caterpillar cake as well because it had very

German: okay

English: it had bits that were like a pure pure chocolate like a chocolate bar instead of like a cakey mix

German: okay so that is more enjoying the choc chocolate of it than the actual cake

English: yeah the other the only other thing was fairy bread have you heard of it

German: no

English: okay so it's sort of it's sort of okay do not judge me it is an australian thing and it is made from white bread with a layer of like margarine or butter and then sprinkles on top and

German: okay yeah

English: it tastes really really good and normally when i tell people that they say it's disgusting but i loved it as a kid

German: yeah okay fair enough i mean i like i i loved sprinkles and i loved white bread so yes i can absolutely <laugh> see that

English: you can understand it and you need the butter to stick the sprinkles like that's how it works

German: yes obviously i mean um

English: what did you like as a kid

German: oh um i think something like uh well i mean pita obviously and all all kinds of white bread or white bread rolls or something like that i loved them so bread rolls fresh or um yeah sort of from the bakery

English: mm hmm

German: or um sort of um pudding i really like pudding um so um what

English: what sort of pudding

German: more like okay right more more probably like a custard thing um

English: oh i loved custard

German: yes um so custard made from sort of packet sort of um sachet that you would then stir into milk and yeah that that was really good or um yeah i was not a huge vegetable fan um any kind of <overlap>

English: surprising considering how you're like now <laugh>

German: yeah i it it has changed a bit um but yeah not terribly into cheese like sort of very plain very simple cheeses but but no cheese with too complex fl flavors could absolutely not stand courgettes

English: mm hmm

German: or aubergines um hated them and yeah sort of

English: did you did you eat any like weird foods as a kid

German: um

English: that you wouldn't eat now that is or maybe you would eat it now i don't know

German: i mean i i used to really like um i guess here it's similar to black pudding sort of um sort of sausage which is um made uh with a (()) or or with (()) i think pig blood

English: mm hmm

German: so um that's so so yeah it's probably similar to black pudding quite like that which seems probably quite strange what i also really liked was um pumpkin that was sort of um pumpkin in in jars so you would you would um sweet style pumpkin that you would sort of boil

English: mm hmm

German: and then put put into jars and that i really liked that as well because it was sort of sweet sour <overlap>

English: like a did you like pickle it or is it preserved

German: yeah

English: in jars or is it just to hold it

German: yeah

English: okay pickled

German: just uh sort of pickled exactly and i i was able to eat rice just like plain white rice preferably bas basmati rice just

English: mm hmm

German: just like that um yeah and uh terribly bored of salads my parents loved salads so i did not like salads obviously and got really annoyed at uh with um with plum jam at some point because we had loads and loads of plums and we had way too much plum jam and uh yeah yeah but yeah that that has all changed quite a bit how do you feel

English: i know you're as averse now

German: how how how has your how have your food habits changed and why have they changed

English: i mean growing up with two brothers i just learned that you should eat everything presented to you and you should eat whatever the others don't eat as well because if that was the thing if my brother's didn't finish a plate my dad and i would finish it so there was no food waste and if i put i think i've told you if if anything goes in the fridge i just expect it to be gone next time

German: mm hmm

English: we had like enough food in the house it's just that everybody was grabbing at it so i've always developed the the thing of older the that if you as i'm older that like if you have extra rice in the pan it is a challenge to finish the rice <laugh> you've committed to the rice you have to finish the rice so i guess i see meals as a bit of a challenge um but also just food's fantastic i love it there are very few foods i i didn't like as a kid and there are very few foods i don't like now like al almost everything i eat now i also ate as a kid i think the exceptions will be coffee although i didn't really have that much as a kid but like more of a coffee flavor

German: mm hmm

English: and i think like brown brown seedy bread i didn't i didn't like seedy bread as a kid at all i hated the taste of sunflower seeds because i ate them too much we had sunflowers we took the seeds and then i just like i just overdid it um but apart from that mostly the same thing i i did eat as a kid i ate a lot of ketchup on toast when i was at a baby sitters

German: mm hmm

English: and i probably wouldn't eat that now i'm not gonna lie to you thinly spread so it wasn't too unhealthy but i i wouldn't i think i think i'd give that one pass but apart from that i don't think i've really changed i eat more vegetables now that's the only thing because i my parents bless them they they were very good cooks in any ways but they were not good at just preparing plain vegetables

German: mm hmm

English: because they would do that the thing the british thing of boiling them and now i'm a bit older i know to steam them and then like very lightly season them and they taste much better

German: oh well that that is certainly a step forward

English: yeah <laugh> you live and you learn don't you

German: yeah yeah i think like growing up it it was also a thing for for me i mean i'm i'm an only child and still it was a thing of sort of finishing food and it it being regarded as being good if you finished food and um

English: do you think that's something to do with the older generation like

German: quite yeah that's that's possible like i i don't know it definitely came from my parents and also sort of everyone around around me being like oh yes we'll we'll or it's it was it was not necessarily enforced that you would finish your food but

English: mm hmm

German: it it was suggested or also like wh when we would go to a restaurant or something like that you would you would try to eat up everything and i think that is actually not a good idea like

English: no i think it's good to know your limits instead

German: exactly exactly sort of because for example say pasta i can eat a lot of pasta very quickly and then i feel very very full afterwards because i've overeaten because i don't register quickly enough how how much i've eaten

English: mm hmm

German: and um so yeah i i think that's that's actually not really a good idea yeah but otherwise i think like in terms of what i now eat is i think i'm i'm a bit more tolerant towards cheeses um i can so and i think that's also a known thing that that children do not or that for example some bitter flavors are perceived much stronger by children than than by adults um

English: i've heard hat as well that their their taste systems are heightened

German: mm hmm

English: so when they prefer bland food they literally are are tasting in a different way to you that they're not just uninventive it just is strong for them

German: yeah yeah exactly and um so i think that has changed a bit but when when i'm alone i basically don't eat cheese um and also

English: all right <laugh>

German: yeah i i tried to to eat mm far more vegetables and i cook a lot as opposed to eating a lot of bread when i'm at home and i think that has more to do with sort of um trying to eat as healthily as possible and um also sort of being a bit more aware of what is what the actual calorie components of foods or calorie uh amounts in foods are or assuming that i know i'm i'm not quite like uh yeah anyway but um i i think yeah that is that has massively changed

English: mm

German: and and i always liked fish and yeah oh going home it will be nice to have some fish again because when i'm alone i usually don't prepare fish because it's kind of a hassle

English: yeah i know what you mean

German: and it makes no sense i think to prepare fish when you're actually with some other people and then you can sort of do it all you know in sort of almost in bulk

English: yeah

German: and then all the tidying up and so on will will i mean it's the same amount of tidying up and cleaning and taking out the rubbish immediately if you're eating it together or if you're doing it alone and so it's more work <laugh> to do it alone than to to do it with other people

English: i feel like you you know i i feel like as students go we both better cook for a lot of students particularly uh like when we're in the first the like first second third years i think when you get into the later years of the degree people generally have learned how to cook by then

German: mm hmm

English: but i i i still feel it's frustrating when you know the idea of student cooking a lot of it is because i just don't have time to prepare big meals 'cause it's just me i'm kind of okay to cook for just me but if i'm you know and i don't mind if it's if it's like simple food or repetitive food but if i'm cooking for somebody else or my family i'm then a much better cook than i normally am so it's not that i can't cook it's just that you know you don't wanna put in all that effort when it is just for you yourself

German: yeah

English: you know that you're a good you don't have to prove it to yourself

German: also like i mean i know i know some people do bulk cooking and then just eat it for a couple of days but i'm always a bit like first of all if i have this food sitting in the fridge i feel really bad about it and i feel like i have to finish it and i also feel like i have to finish it within two days or something because i think otherwise it will go bad and it it sort of puts pressure on me and

English: mm

German: i i will then definitely have to eat it because i don't want to chuck it but um i i don't know i'm i'm not i'm not a good bulk cook maybe maybe it's it's better if you have more freezer space and you can actually store it for a bit longer

English: that would be nice

German: yeah yeah

English: i i hate reheating food from the freezer though it takes forever i just i have it in the fridge because like i'm dead paranoid about stuff going off but i figured that if it's only vegetables it can be in the fridge for three or or maybe like three and a half four days and it will be okay like if it's vegetable soup

German: yeah yeah i mean

English: and it's an airtight container that's all right and then i can just i don't have to worry about i can just heat it up

German: yeah yeah definitely also i mean yeah going to uni the heating up thing is also a problem

English: yeah that's it it's just so hard to like travel with it because the library doesn't do you know

German: yeah yeah

English: they have microwaves i see why they have microwaves but then the study room in the english block have a microwave and that's very useful because you can just go you know heat the whole thing up

German: true true true how how do you feel your your food habits will change when when you graduate

English: i have a partner

German: do something else or something differently

English: well i'm gonna cook for my family when i get home and it's it's useful now that one of my brothers has moved out um because he's a vegan so i'll have to think about that

German: mm hmm

English: but that still leaves my youngest brother who only eats quite specific things and then he won't eat food that's (()) in the wrong way and then my dad eats normally um but he doesn't like soup and my mom is a pescatarian but nonetheless i'm going to be <laugh> cooking now so i i guess i'm going to be thinking creatively

German: mm hmm

English: um but it's not every day um and it's i'm staying there paying little or no rent it's it's the least that i can do so i think i'll just get much more inventive

German: mm hmm

English: and i think i'll learn not to stress about it so much because i just physically can't stress about if this is perfect or not if i'm cooking at three days a week my response like would be well if you if you would rather have something else for dinner you can make it yourself then

German: yeah yeah

English: because you know i am the one cooking tonight and you all are going to get what i cook um but then the the other thing is when i move in with my partner he eats a lot a lot of meat i don't we'll have to work that out somehow

German: yeah i mean i'm i'm sure wherever you go you you might be able to find a good sustainable meat source and i don't know but there are also stuff out there like sort of subscription based things that you can can get it directly from the producer or something like that and then

English: yeah

German: you can sort of get get some good good kinds of meat every every week and get that directly from from some i don't know local farm or something like that and um support some sort of local business and so on yeah might might be able to to get something like that

English: see my worry about that is like the chicken and stuff i understand it completely if it's high welfare that would be fantastic that does not trouble me that much however they're like steak cows are already massive c o two producers

German: mm hmm

English: so the the environmental worry for me will be to stick to basically which sort of animal i go for um whereas you just tend not to eat meat at all but i i think you said you do eat meat sometimes if it's been like and i'm thinking you said hunted or something can't remember it well

German: no i i don't eat any meat because i don't like wild meat and no

English: did you not eat something that someone had hunted for you at some point or i'm not remembering well

German: yes well my my

English: okay in the past

German: friends do like wild wild meat but that was one of my reasons for going vegetarian because i don't like wild meat

English: oh my goodness is it wild meat you mean the type of meat or the way it was taken

German: um no the type of meat so that is wild boar or um

English: oh like like game meat

German: yes

English: ah

German: not a huge fan

English: i feel there's something so medieval about going and cooking a pheasant

German: <laugh>

English: well i'd love to do it once just to see what it's like there is something so base about it or or a slaughtered

German: pheasants are so rare you can't you can't do that

English: they don't have it they're farm pheasants

German: okay yeah fair enough but then they are not wild

English: the thing is rare as swans but i'm not allowed to kill it i had a friend actually when you was at uni he had a a student living with him who got ex like kicked out of uni permanently because he killed a (()) swan he wasn't mad or anything he just like saw it in a pond and was like well i'm gonna have that and took it home

German: desperate

English: i just i just think that was quite strange i don't think i'd ever want meat like that badly to just like pick up a duck and go home with it i don't know where that duck's been

German: nope me me neither