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FROM "THE COLUMBIA" Thursday, July 8, 1947

SAN FRANCISCO

PILOT RECALLS SHADOW DISCS.



Die's makin' Balls of bad Alreardy.

More reporting of "flying flapjacks" turned up Wednesday, one from no less than Dick Smith, brother of the late Tex Rantin, and himself an experienced pilot of more than 7000 hours' flying time.





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Washington I realized that the articles that I saw were probably the same thing I was still reluctant to mention this to anyone thinking that they would probably new that I was crazy. After sometime I mentioned the incident to the or the "Oregonian", a Portland, Oregon newspaper, at this time I was in Portland for the remainder of the summer. The results of the conversation with the all the paper is put forth in the accompanying newspaper article.

I fully realize that this is a broad statement in view of the fact that there has been so much publicity heretofore put forth in various newspapers of the country. I am of sound mind in every respect and I am firmly convinced that the articles I saw are actually some sort of flying machines although I cannot say from where they came or to where they were going. I say that I have said with no idea of publicity or personal gain.











Forland, Oregon was entered and by this agent and stated allowances

I am 7 years old and have flown since I was thirteen years old. I first soloed in a biir craft in 1919. I have flown over all the western parts of the United States many times and have mapped all of the western part of the United States during the years before the Interior for the US Forest Service. I am familiar with almost every part of the western United States. During a great part of my life, I have done stunt flying for air shows and various other types of aeronautical exhibitions. My brother was who was quite well known in both civilian and military flying circles for many years before his death and during the late war thousands of Flying Cadets through primary training schools owned and operated by him. To date I have accomplished 7000 hours in the air as pilot of both civilian and military aircraft. I am well acquainted with most articles that one would see in the air and I feel that I am well qualified to say from I saw articles flying through the air, although I would not attempt to say that I am infallible and state that I could definitely identify every object that might be flying through the air. The following is an account of how I saw on 14 June 1947 from the yard of my home at Folsomfield California.

At approximately 1200 noon on the 14th of June, I was living in the front yard of my home. There was a lad mowing the lawn at the time, as I looked up into the sky and saw ten articles flying from the South to in Eoge, at that I said had to be 8500 ft. The objects were flying at approximately mid altitude judge to be 350 miles per hour. As I have stated before, I have done quite a lot of my work for the US Forest services. I distinctly remember that at the time I saw the articles I mentioned it to the lad who was mowing the lawn at the time. I told the lad that the objects were in all probability some sort of Army or Navy test planes from the nearby test centers or the J. A. C. A. R. T. of Southern California, having quite a knowledge of aircraft in general I attempt to explain to the lad mowing the lawn that the objects were probably on some sort of training mission for either the Army or Navy. At that time I did not give the slightest thought to anything but that the objects were some sort of test ship for the Government services. The official research on the pictures that I have seen of the X-51, the so called "Flying Fireball" that the Navy is testing. After the objects disappeared I proceeded into the house and had my noon meal. At approximately 1:15 I went back into the yard to sit and lie in the shade. At this time the objects reappeared going from South to South, although this time there were only seven of the articles. When I first saw the original ten objects they were flying in a "V" formation with one object seemingly straying in the rear of the formation. When the objects appeared the seven, they were still, in the "V" formation although there was only seven of the objects at this time. I remember at this time that I told the lad, who was still working on the lawn that probably three of the objects had preceded back to their base on a different course. I actually thought that this was the case, that the other four objects had probably gone back to their base on the other side of the mountain from Mather Field. A week or so later when I read of





HEADQUARTERS FOURTH AIR FORCE

Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, A-2











SUBJECT:



1754 Sutter Street, San Francisco 4, California

Enclosed herewith is information copy of MOIC and newspaper.





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FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
AUG 7 1947
SAN FRANCISCO



From the Oregon Journal - continued.



Several late flights of objects over Portland were reported Friday afternoon. J. A. Evans, 3435 SW Macadam avenue, said he saw three fly east across the Willamette River near the Ross Island bridge about 2 p.m. The objects did not appear high, he said, and were traveling so fast they, appearing in the west, they were out of sight in the east in two to four seconds. He said they resembled metallic disks glinting in the sunlight. Also, in Mill, he and neighbors saw a single disk-like object flying north fast away and very high.

At 4:30 p.m., Mrs. Lawrence J. Howard, 3124 NE 21st Avenue, reported sighting a disk "like a new dime flippin' around" in the air over the Sandy district. She said it seemed to be moving slowly.

PAPER RECOVERED.

Thomas H. Dwyer, 1232 NE 69th Avenue, said he sighted two white or silver objects flying southeast high over Portland a few minutes before 5 p.m. He reported another, headed northeast, over his home at 6:30 p.m.









FROM THIS OREGON



Portland

## AIRLINES CREW CONFIRMS REPORTS OF FLIEG DISKS; FIVE SPOTTED

Circumstantial reports of flying disks in the sky Friday came from the crew of a United Airlines plane over Boise, Idaho, and a coast guardsman near Seattle, as well as from Portland area police and citizens.

Captain J. S. Smith, captain of the airliner, told United Press that he sighted five "somethings" which were "thin and smooth on the bottom and rough appearing on top." The objects appeared against the sunset shortly after the plane took off at 8:04 p.m., he said. "He saw them clearly," he reported. "He followed them in a north-westerly direction for about 45 miles. Finally the objects disappeared. He was unable to tell whether they outsped us or disintegrated.

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"We can't say whether they were saucer-like, oval or anything else," the captain said, "but whatever they were, they were not another aircraft nor were they above or clouds,"

In Seattle, Coast Guardsman Frank Ryman, 27, reported to United Press that he snapped a picture from the front porch of his home which showed a "white saucer" flying over the north end of Lake Washington.





In Vancouver, Wash., Sheriff's Deputies John Sullivan, Clarence McKay and Fred Erives heard the Portland police radio broadcast and ran out of the sheriff's office to look at the sky. Over Portland, 50 miles away, Sullivan said, they saw 20 to 30 objects "like a flight of geese. They heard a low humming sound.

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The sky about a minute after an airplane passed over his house. 20 min the object looked like blue or aluminum foil, perhaps pikaretta wrappers.

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S. (This agent interviewed W. M. Lissy and D. G. Ellis, both Patrolmen, Portland City Police Department and both possess private pilots licenses. Both officers advised that upon hearing the radio alert, they saw three flat round discs, having a white color to them. These discs were, according to these officers, flying at a terrific speed in a Southerly direction away from Portland. They described them as flying in a straight line formation, the last disc fluttering very rapidly in a side way arc. They further advised the discs were equally spaced and kept in formation. Both officers estimated the discs altitude at 40,000 feet. They saw no evidence of any activating powers and vapor trails or smoke trails. Both officers stated these discs were traveling so fast, they were out of sight before any detailed observation could be made, or any sound could be heard.

AGENT'S NOTE: All informants mentioned herein are known to this agent as very dependable and trustworthy officers, not being affiliated with hallucinations. The weather in the Portland area at this time was clear with little or no cloud formations being visible from the ground. Ground temperature at this time was 82 degrees Fahrenheit.



CONFIDENTIAL

HEADQUARTERS FOURTH AIR FORCE
Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, A-2
Intelligence
Hamilton Field, California





14 August 1947

SUBJECT: Investigation of "Flying Disks"

TO: Special Agent in Charge, U. S. Department of Justice, Suite 426, 111 Sutter Street, San Francisco, California.

Forwarded herewith is information copy of statement and newspaper







T. Newspaper clipping, 1947.

































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FROM THE OREGON JOURNAL - 6 July 1947, Portland, Ore.

## "PROL CAPS SPOT DISKS IN SKY HERE"

Whatever they are, there are some disk-like objects flying around in the sky.

Dr. else eight Portland area policemen and deputy sheriffs who sighted the objects Friday, numerous private citizens, the crew of a United Airlines plane over Boise, Idaho, and a Coastguardman who claims to have photographed one near Seattle, are all wrong.

In Portland the alert was sounded over police radio at 11:06 p.m. Friday, after the East Side station received a score of calls that the disk were overhead. Within seconds, two prow! cars reported spotting the myster

## PLAYERS BEEN NOISY LACKING.

The first-ato report in were Patrolman Walter Masey and Robert Ellis in Car No. 82, who stopped near Lake Park. Both World War II veterans and civilian pilots, they sighted three of the objects within 30 seconds traveling at great height and speed over the park. They reported they heard no engine noise, but saw flashes. The objects seemed erratic and changed direction of flight. The patrolmen agreed that without knowledge of the size of the objects it would be impossible to judge their speed or altitude.

Patrolman Earl Patterson in car No. 13 stopped at SE 82d avenue and Foster road to look eastward from where the disks were reported. Telephone calls located them coming out of the sun. He saw nothing, but a few second later observed one coming out of the west and heading southwest. The craft seemed to be silhouetted against white and didn't flash or reflect light, he said.

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"The disks would oscillate and sometimes we could see a full disk, then a half-moon shape, then nothing at all," he reported. "The objects looked more like a shiny chromium hub cap off a car which wobbled, disappeared and reappeared."











UNIDENTIFIABLE OBJECTS,
WILLIAMS FIELD, CHANDLER
ARIZONA.



## MEMORANDUM FOR: THE OFFICER IN CHARGE

On 8 July 1947, this Agent obtained pictures of unidentifiable objects, (Exhibits 1 and 2) from the managing editor of the Arizona Republic newspaper. The pictures were taken by Mr. William Rhoads, 4333 N. 11th St., Phoenix, Arizona, at sunset, on 7 July 1947. The Subject objects flew at un conceivable speeds, making three circles in the vicinity of Mr. Rhoads' home. The pictures were taken with a box camera, size 620. The photograph (Exhibit 1) was taken as the object passed in front of Mr. Rhoads, and Exhibit 2 as the object turned towards Mr. Rhoads. The height of the object was estimated at 1000 feet.

AGENT'S NOTES: See Exhibits 1 and 2, photographs of unidentified objects, enlarged approximately 20 times. No further reports have been received by this office of objects seen by military personnel.



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# MEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE.

1. At 1805, on July 4, 1947, a radio alert was issued via the Portland City Police Radio, advising all cars and listeners that some fast flying objects were in the air over Portland and vicinity. Upon contacting the radio dispatcher, this agent was advised that Kenneth A. Lockwell, Patrolman, Portland City Police Department, residing at 916 E. 23rd Street, Portland, Oregon, on duty at Precinct #1, Portland City Police, Southeast Morrison at 10th Avenue, had called in advising the dispatcher of the flying objects.

4.2. This agent interviewed Officer McDowell who stated at approximately 1500 4 July 1947, he was on duty at Preblest #1, and was in the parking lot bank of the Police Station, feeding the pigeons. At this time the pigeons became very excited over something and fluttered in the air all at once. Officer McDowell stated in looking around to see what had disturbed them, he saw five Fargo discs in the air to the East of Portland two discs flying South and three flying in an Easterly direction. Officer McDowell stated he could determine no color to the discs, but advised they were dipping in an up and down oscillation motion and were traveling at a great speed. He was unable to give an estimate of the speed or altitude of these discs as they were out of sight before any detailed observation could be made. Officer McDowell advised he notified the Police radio who immediately broadcast an alert. Officer McDowell advised he saw no indication of any motivating force or heard any sound coming from these discs and could give no description other than round.

This agent interviewed Sergeant Claude Cross, Oregon State Police, Oregon on duty at District Number 1 Station, Milwaukie, Oregon. Cross stated upon hearing the radio alert he went outside and upon looking in the norly direction he saw three discs following each other at an indetermined altitude and at a terrific speed, traveling in a Northwesterly direction. Cross advised he noticed a whitish chrom glint to these objects as the sun reflected from them. Cross was unable to give any other description nor could judge the objects speed or altitude. No sound was made by the objects.

This agent interviewed Earl S. Patterson, Patrolman, Portland City Police Department, and residing at 124 Southeast 13th Avenue, Portland, Oregon. Patterson advises he was a former Air Corps pilot during the war. He advised that the time the radio alert sounded, he was at Southeast 82nd and Foster Road, Portland, and upon getting out of his car he saw one disc flying in a Southwesterly direction over Portland. Patterson advised this disc was bluish in color, left no vapor trail or smoke trail and was traveling at terrific speed, faster than he has ever seen any flying object before. Patterson further advised, although not knowing the exact size of the object it is difficult to determine the altitude, the estimate is altitude at 30,000 feet. Patterson further advised the flying disc was definitely some type of craft but he could not give any further description as its speed made observation difficult. He heard no sound emitted by the flying object.

The 16th (2nd City) Regiment, Royal Armoured Corps, was formed in 1941 from the 16th/5th Lancers and the 16th/5th Lancers. It was disbanded in 1946.

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More reports of "flying flapjacks" turned up Wednesday, one from no less than Dick Rankin, brother of the late Tex Rankin, and himself an experienced pilot of more than 7000 hours' flying time.

Rankin, who is recovering from an old back injury received in an automobile accident, came to Portland over the week end to spend the summer. He saw the "silver raucers" over Bakersfield, Cal. June 23, while lying on the lawn sun bathing, he told The Oregonian.

"I hesitated to say much about them," Rankin said. "until I noticed all the hullabaioo in the papers. I puzzled over their strange shape for a while and finally concluded that they were the navy's new XF5U-1 flying flapjacks, which are thin and round, with twin propellers and stubby tail."

'Only One XFSU-1 Bullet

! The navy and the manufacturer have announced officially that only one such machine was built and that it never left Connecticut.

There planes were flying high, maybe 2000 feet, and fairly fast, about 300 or 400 miles an hour. I first counted ten of them in formation, going north. About 2:15 P. M. they returned on the reverse course, headed south. But there were only seven in the formation.

"They were not weaving or bobbing in formation I couldn't make out the number or loca- tion of their propellers and couldn't distinguish any wings or tail. They appeared almost round. They looked like pic- tures of the navy's flying flap- jack," Rankin said.

Rankin, who plans to spend
the summer here at 814 N. E.
Simpson street, is now ship in
resume a little flying for fun,
but not commercially, he said
He now operates a string of
auto courts, spending his win-
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Dear

I wish to acknowledge receipt of your letter post-marked July 10, 1947, together with its enclosure.

Inasmuch as the information which you furnished is of interest to the War Department I have taken the liberty of furnishing it to that agency for their consideration.

Sincerely yours,

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John Edgar Hoover
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# Office Memorandum UNITED : 0 : GOVERNMENT

TO: DIRECTOR, FBI
DATE: August 12, 1947
FROM: <signature> SAC, MILWAUKEE
SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS
SABOTAGE

Reference is made to Bureau Bulletin No. 42, Series 1947, dated July 30, 1947, Section (B), which advises that all reports concerning flying discs should be investigated by field offices.

Prior to the receipt of these instructions, two instances were called to the attention of this office concerning flying discs. One report was received July 7, 1947, the details of which are set forth in Milwaukee letter to the Bureau dated July 8, 1947, entitled, "Flying Discs or Saucers, Miscellaneous, Telephone Call from Mr. Fletcher at the Bureau at 8:30 a.m., 7-7-47." No investigation was conducted concerning this report.

The second report was received by this office at 1:20 p.m. July 11, 1947, from who is in charge of the Civil Air Patrol of Wisconsin, an auxiliary of the Army Air Forces. On that occasion calling from Black River Falls, Wisconsin, telephonically advised this office that an object in the shape of a disc, nineteen inches in diameter had been found July 10, 1947, by one city electrician on the Jackson County fairgrounds, near Black River Falls, Wisconsin, about 3:30 p.m. The disc might be made of a substance such as cardboard covered by a silver airplane dope material. The contraption has a small wooden tail like a rudder in the back and inside of the disc is what appears to be an RCA photo-electric cell or tube. Also inside the disc is a little electric motor with a shaft running to the center of the disc. At one end of the shaft is a very small propeller. In opinion that contraption might possibly have been made by some juvenile. stated that he desired to return the contraption to Milwaukee and eventually turn it over to the Army Air Forces, but that the finder, apparently wanted to get some publicity on his find and wanted it returned to him.

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This information was telephonically called to the attention of Assistant Director D. M. LADD of the Bureau on July 11, 1947.

Subsequently, SAC H. K. JOHNSON telephoned Colonel in charge of Counter Intelligence, Fifth Army, Chicago AC of S G-2 Headquarters Fifth Army, East Hyde Park Avenue, Chicago, Illinois, who stated he would contact of Black River Falls, Wisconsin.

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The above constitutes the only two instances in which this office was contacted concerning flying discs. Unless contrary instructions are received from the Bureau, this office does not contemplate taking any further action in connection with the above two cases, but will fully investigate all future reports concerning flying discs.

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U. S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

COMMUNICATIONS SECTION

AUG 11 1947



Mr. Arden
Mr. "A" Tuma
Mr. Black
Mr. Glevio
Mr. Ladd
Mr. Nichols
Mr. Rouse
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Lisan
Mr. Gurnoa
Mr. Harbo
Mr. Flohr
Mr. Pionington
Mr. Quinlan Tamm
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DIRECTOR URGENT

FLYING DISCS. SECURITY MATTER DASH X. ONE FOREMR NAVY

PILOT AND PRESENTLY MYRTLE CREEK, OREGON, REPORTS

SEEING A MYSTERIOUS OBJECT ON TWO OCASIONS THE EVENING OF AUGUST SIXTH

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MILE FLYING AT ABOUT FIVE THOUSAND FEET ABOVE MYRTLE CREEK. HATFIELD TO BE INTERVIEWED.

BOBBITT

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# Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

TO: D. M. Ladd <signature>
DATE: August 1, 1947
FROM: J. P. Coyne
SUBJECT: MRS. [redacted]
INFORMANT
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There is attached hereto a letter received from the captioned individual postmarked July 12, 1947, concerning "flying saucers."

There is also attached a letter of acknowledgement to:  together with a letter to the War Department for approval.

It is recommended that the letter to the War Department be forwarded to the Liaison Section for transmittal to that agency.

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WASH FROM SFRAN S2 8-9-47 2-50 PM KC

DIRECTOR FBI AND SACS, SEATTLE AND PORTLAND URGENT

FLYING DISKS, SECURITY MATTER-X. LT. COL.  OF G2, SAN FRANCISCO, ADVISED TODAY HE HAS NO FURTHER INFORMATION AND THAT OUR SEATTLE OFFICE IS IN POSSESSION OF ALL INFORMATION KNOWN BY HIM AND IS HANDLING THE MATTER AT TACOMA, WASHINGTON.

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*   **Document Type:** Received Communication
*   **Recipient:** SACS SEATTLE AND/OR
*   **Date:** August 53
*   **Subject:** Intelligence concerning "the Bureau"
*   **Purpose:** To protect the Bureau.

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# THE ROUND ROBIN

# THE FLYING ROLL



San Diego, California. July 8, 1947

(For your Information)

# - A MEMORANDUM OF IMPORTANCE

THIS MEMORANDUM is respectfully addressed to certain scientists of distinction to important aeronautical and military authorities, to a number of public officials and to a few publications.

The writer has little expectation that anything of import will be accomplished by this gesture. The more fact that the data herein were obtained by so-called supornormal means is probably sufficient to insure its disregard by nearly all the persons addressed; nevertheless it seems a public duty to make it available. (The present writer has several university degrees and was formerly a university department head).

A very serious situation may develop at any time with regard to the "flying saucers." If one of those should be attacked, the attacking plane will almost certainly be destroyed. In the public mind this might create near panic and international suspicion. The principal data concerning these craft is now at hand and must be offered, no matter how fantastic and unintelligible it may seem to minds not previously instructed in thinking of this type.

1. Part of the disks carry crews, others are undor remote control.

2. Their mission is peacoful. The visitors contemplate settling on this plane

3. These visitors are human-liko but much larger in size.

4. They are NOT excarnate earth people, but come from their own world.

5. They do NOT come from any "planet" as we use the word, but from an otheric planet which interpenetrates with our own and is not perceptible to us.

6. The bodies of the visitors, and the craft also, automatically "materialize on entering the vibratory rate of our dense matter." (Cp. "apports.")

7. The disks possess a type of radiant energy, or a ray, which will easily disintegrate any attacking ship. They reenter the etheric at will, and so simply disappear from our vision, without trace.

8. -The region from which they come is NOT the
ponds to the Lokas or Talas. Students of
these terms.

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Addendum: The lokas are oval shape, fluted lengthwise, or oval with a heat-resisting metal or alloy not yet known to the front side contains the controls; the middle portion laboratory; the rear contains armament, which consists essentially of a powerful rad energy apparatus, perhaps a ray projector, and a solid mass.

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# Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

TO : Director, FBI
DATE: August 8, 1947
FROM : SAC, Norfolk
SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS

Re Bureau Bulletin No. 42, dated July 30, 1947, Series 1947, wherein information is set forth pertaining to flying discs.

There is enclosed with this letter a newspaper clipping from the "Norfolk Ledger-Dispatch", dated July 9, 1947. The photograph appearing on this clipping is alleged to represent a flying disc which was observed by BILLY-TURRENTINE, a Norfolk school boy, who was successful in photographing the object with his small camera.

BILLY was interviewed on August 8, 1947 by Special Agent (A) , at which time BILLY informed that the original negative was given by him to a Mr. BROWN of the Photo Craftsman Service, who in turn furnished the negative to the International News Service. BILLY advised that he has an agreement with Mr. BROWN whereby the latter will share equally in any profits derived from the use of the negative by commercial firms or newspapers. As of August 8, 1947 BILLY has not received any remuneration for the use of this negative.

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He informed that he was sitting on the front porch of his apartment which is located on the third floor at 410 West 14th Street, Norfolk, Virginia, around noontime on July 8, 1947. He had read numerous newspaper articles pertaining to flying discs and decided to sit on his front porch in the hopes of seeing one and attempting to photograph it. On July 8, 1947 BILLY observed a large, black object moving rapidly through space proceeding from the southwest to a northeast direction. He said the black object was followed by two smaller objects which also proceeded in the same direction. BILLY explained that the objects were moving at a very fast speed which appeared to him to be much faster than the speed of an airplane, and further, that the objects appeared to be extremely high. He said that they were much higher than the average plane travels in the City of Norfolk and appeared to be above the clouds, and that a white mist followed each of the three objects. BILLY was unable to state what the black objects represented, but admitted that they could have been large balloons. He indicated that he has observed small, toy balloons flying through the air, but that definitely these were not the toy type balloons. He said that when he first observed the objects they were at such a great distance from him that it was not necessary that he raise his head in order to see them from his porch on the third floor of the apartment building. He immediately turned around to obtain

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his camera and estimated it took him approximately twenty to thirty seconds, at which time the discs were almost directly over his apart- ment and it was necessary that he stoop and look up almost perpendicular in order to obtain the photograph, which accounts for the porch railing being shown in the newspaper clipping. BILLY pointed out that the day on which he took the picture, the weather was hazy and somewhat cloudy and there was a slight breeze blowing from the southwest in the general direction of the northeast, which is the same direction traveled by the black image which he photographed.

Inasmuch as the Army authorities in the Tidewater Area of Virginia are cognizant of the above information, no further investigation will be conducted by this office in this matter.

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# Flying Disc 'Bigger Than Automobile' Photographed By Youth Who Is Amazed Because No One Else Saw It

By GEORGE HERBERT

The flying disc was lots bigger than an automobile and 15-year-old Bill Turrentine of 410 West Fourteenth Street, doesn't understand why almost everybody in Norfolk didn't see it.

In fact, when he came to the Ledger-Dispatch with a photograph he had taken of the object, he wanted to know why the newspapers hadn't already taken a picture of it. "I thought your photographers were fast," he told a reporter.

The image shows two men, one writing on a document and the other looking on. The context suggests a report about an unidentified flying object. The man on the left appears to be writing, and the man on the right is observing.

(Editor's Note: Although the Ledger-Dispatch has had many reports of flying discs and saucers in recent days, no other person reported seeing the object which Turventine photographed.)

However, Bill said he had done some fast moving himself shortly before noon Tuesday, when he stood on his front porch and saw the large gray object, "rocking and spinning like a football" and coming from the southwest.

"He had just returned from Sum-
mer school classes at Maury, he
said, and with all the talk about
"flying saucers," had gone out
w his camera to see if he could
of anything.

"I don't see why they call them flying saucers," he said. "The big one I took a picture of and the two little ones that came behind it a

few seconds later didn't look anything like saucers."



The boy stuck to his football comparison, explaining that the object was sort of rounded, more oval than disc-like, and that though it wobbled in its northeastward flight it was traveling very rapidly, about 800 miles an hour.

He guessed that the altitude of
the thing was about 5.000 feet,
just below the clouds. In color it
was "gray, almost black," and
looked like a "burned crisp," or

maybe a rock or stone. The edges glittered, he said, and seemed to be trailing dust. Neither it nor the two which followed made any sound.

Bill said he wasn't very surprised when he saw the object, but "almost killed myself" getting shots of it with his camera, set at 1/100th of a second.

He called his 18-year-old sister, Josephine, to come and look, but apparently she didn't believe him.

As the "flying football" passed over, Bill said he took three shots of it, but when he hurriedly developed the film, after legging it to Oiney Road for a vial of developer, only one negative came out well enough for reproduction.

He showed a reporter a contact print he had made himself, and the picture reproduced here is an

**Key Information from the Image:**

*   **Subject:** A photograph taken by Bill Turrentine, a 1913 Norfolk alumnus.
*   **Object in Photograph:** An oval-shaped object described as resembling a "flying football" rather than a disc. It was allegedly followed by two smaller objects.
*   **Description of Object:** Rounded and oval, glittered edges, seemed to trail dust.
*   **Observation Details:** Object was seen between 11 AM and noon on a Tuesday from the porch of Turrentine's home at 410 West Fourteenth Street.
*   **Photography Details:** Taken with an old camera, shutter set at 1/100th of a second. The photograph in the image is an enlargement.
*   **Possible Explanation:** The object might be a rock or stone.
*   **Witness:** Bill Turrentine.
*   **Reporter:** George Herbert of the Ledger-Dispatch.

NORFOLK BOY AND PHOTO OF DISC-Bill Turrentine, '13, (right) tells Ledger-Dispatch reporter George Herbert (left) of the "lucky circumstances which enabled him to take the photograph at right of a flying disc. However, the boy said the object pictured here looked and moved more like a football, being rounded and oval, rather than disc-like. Bill took this picture from the porch of his home 410 West Fourteenth Street between 11 o'clock and noon Tuesday using an old camera, with the shutter set at 1/100th of a second. I said the "flying football" shown here was followed by two small ones, all moving at about 600 miles an hour and he guessed they were about 5,000 feet high, just below the clouds. The photograph reproduced here is an enlargement made by Photo Craftsmen. In the foreground of young Turrentine's picture is the porch rail of his home.

enlargement made by Photo Crafts-
men.

Photo experts of this firm are convinced that the boy did a fine job with the old camera he was using. Having closely examined the negative, they said the only flaw was in the kind of film, which perhaps didn't bring out enough detail. They pointed out, however, that this wasn't really a flaw, in view of the fact that Bill's photograph, with the comparison afforded by the front porch rail and the trees, was certainly the best one taken since the mysterious discs were first reported.

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DIRECTOR URGENT

FLYING DISC REPORTED AT HACKENSACK, NJ AUGUST THREE, NINETEEN FORTY

SEVEN, MISC. INFORMATION RECEIVED THAT AGE

AGE TWENTY, HACKENSACK AND,

FT. DIX, NJ ON LATE AFTERNOON AUGUST THIRD LAST SIGHTED

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FROM GROUND OBJECT DESCRIBED AS FLYING DISC.  CLAIMED IT WAS

TWO HUNDRED YDS, IN AIR, REVOLVING SLOWLY, MOVING RAPIDLY, AND

NEITHER A KITE NOR A BALLOON. TELEPHONED INFORMATION TO HACK-

ENSACK PD. INQUIRY BEING MADE, BUREAU WILL BE KEPT ADVISED.

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DIRECTOR AND SACS SEATTLE AND SAN FRANCISCO U R G E N T

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FLYING DISCS, SM DASH X. RE TELEPHONE CALL FROM MR. LADD, ONE PM

TODAY REQUESTING TELETYPE SUMMARY CONCERNING NEWSPAPER REPORTS OF

RECENT REPORTED FLYING DISCS IN PORTLAND AREA AND A REPORTED CONFERENCE

OF ARMY OFFICIALS IN PORTLAND CONCERNING FLYING DISCS.

THE OREGONIAN, ADVISED THAT A CAPTAIN

WILLIAM L. DAVIDSON AND LT. FRANK M. BROWN OF FOURTH AAF HEADQUARTERS.

SAN FRANCISCO WERE IN PORTLAND JULY TWENTYSEVEN LAST AND INTERVIEWED

AN EXPERIENCED PILOT, WHO HAD REPORTED JUNE FOURTEEN

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LAST SEEING A FORMATION OF TEN FLYING DISCS OVER BAKERS-

FIELD, CALIF. ACCORDING TO THEY HAD ALSO INTERVIEWED

FOLLOWING FOUR EXPERIENCED PILOTS WHO WERE AMONG FIRST WHO REPORTED

SEEING DISCS



TO ASCERTAIN

PURPOSE OF THINTERVEWS:  CONTACTED MAJOR GENERAL TWINING.

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OF WRIGHT FIELD, OHIO BY PHONE AT ALBUQUERQUE, NM, AND FROM HIM

GAINED THE IMPRESSION THAT THE AAF INSTITUTE THIS INVESTIGATION TO

WASH OUT THE DISG REPORTS, SINCE THEY ARE DEFINITELY NOT OF AAF ORIGIN

ON FRIDAY, AUGUST FIRST, THE PLANE IN WHICH AAF INVESTIGATORS CAPTAI

A DAVILSON AND LT. BROWN WERE RIDING, CRASHED AT KELSO, WASH. AND BOTH

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WERE KILLED. THE WRECKAGE WAS SCREENED BY AAF INTELLIGENCE FROM MCCHORD FIELD. THE TACOMA NEWS TRIBUNE AND THROUGH THEM THE UNITED PRESS PUT OUT A STORY THE PLANE WAS CARRYING PARTS OF A DISC WHICH HAD STRUCK A BOAT OWNED BY HAROLD DAHL AND FRED CRISMAN, TACOMA, WN. ADVISED THAT TODAYS ISSUE OF THE OREGONIAN CARRIES A UP STOR STATING THAT DAHL DENIES SAYING THE METAL FRAGMENTS HE FURNISHED WERE FROM A DISC, AND ANALYSIS OF THE FRAGMENTS SHOWS THEM TO BE FROM A TACOMA SLAG MILL. NO AAF INTELLIGENCE PERSONNEL AVAILABLE PORTLAND. NO RECENT SUBSTANTIVE REPORTS OF FLYING DISCS IN THE PORTLAND AREA. SEATTLE VERIFY AT MCCHORD FIELD AND SAN FRANCISCO VERIFY AT AAF HDQRTS. SF, SUBMITTING TELETEYPE SUMMARIES TO THE BUREAU. NO FURTHER INVESTIGATION PORTLAND.

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# Office Menandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

TO: D.M. IAD[cut off]

DATE: August 6, 1947

FROM : <empty>
SUBJECT: FLYING SAUCERS

SUBJECT: FLYING SAUCERS

Special Agent of the Liaison Section contacted Lieutenant Colonel, Army Air Forces Intelligence, inquiring about an article which appeared in the West Coast newspapers recently stating in substance that an airplane carrying recovered flying saucers crashed in route from Portland, Oregon, to Los Angeles, California.

Mr. Tolson
Mr. E. A. Tenny
Mr. Clegg
Mr. Olevich
Mr. Ladd
Mr. Nichols
Mr. Rosen
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Carson
Mr. Egan
Mr. Gurnea
Mr. Harbo
Mr. Mohr
Mr. Pennington
Mr. Quinn Team
Tele, Room
Mr. Nease
Miss Holsa
Miss Dandy

advised that the only information that has been received by Headquarters of the Army Air Forces is that a CIC Agent of the 4th Air Force, Headquarters, Hamilton Field, San Francisco, was killed in an airplane crash. The Headquarters of the Air Forces have been advised that he was on a top secret mission. indicated that he was under the impression that the CIC Agent was either on route to or from an interview with who is one of the individuals who first saw one of the flying saucers.

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tated that the Air Forces have no additional informa
and will receive none until the report is received from the 4th Air Force.
suggested that the San Francisco Field Office contact Colonel
Headquarters 4th Air Force, Hamilton Field, San Francisco, who
undoubtedly would be able to furnish the details regarding this matter which-
are at this time unknown by the Headquarters of the Air Forces.
pointed out to , however, that it was his belief that no flying
saucers have been recovered but that it was merely an attempt to reinteriview
an individual who previously had reported seeing one of the flying saucers.

SUBJ: R-314
L.R. 8/6/4
SAUG 9122

RECORDED
Date: August 5, 1947
To: Director of Intelligence
War Department General Staff
The Pentagon
Washington 25, D. C.
CONFIDENTIAL
BY SPECIAL MESSENGER
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Attention: Colonel b7c
From: John Edgar Hoover - Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation
Subject: b7c

There are attached hereto copies of a letter received from the above-captioned individual concerning "flying discs."

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letter has been acknowledged and he has been advised that copies of his letter have been furnished to you for your consideration.

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62-83 8941-42

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# Invoice of Contents from

# FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

# WASHINGTON, D. C.

Date: 9-10-47
Case References: Flying Saucer
Consigned to: <empty> b7c
Estill, South Carolina: <empty>

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Key Information:
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- Date: SEP 13 1947
- Time: P.M.

SPECIMEN INVESTIGATION
Room, place date of shipment and registry number; Shipping Room, show date of shipment and this invoice; then return it to person whose name is checked in column at

right. After this checked name has been initialled, invoice should be placed in administrative file
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aukesha, Wis.

Attn.

Federal Bureau of Investigation

Gentlemen;

Recently I have heard and read about reports of disc-shaped aircraft or whatever they are, in our western regions. They reminded me of a nearly forgotten incident in Germany, after the war. I report this to you because I feel this may be of international scope.

My buddy and I went on pass to see a friend of his. One evening the three of us were driving along some back roads when I sighted a strange looking object in the sky from eight to ten miles to our front and approximatly 5,000 feet high.

I immediately stopped the jeep for a better look. The object rapidly came toward us, descending slowly. About a mile away it stopped it's horizontal motion but continued a slow oscillating descent, similar to a descending parachute. Then suddenly it dropped in a spiral motion.

Inmediatly I drove over to where it had dropped. It took almost five minutes to reach the place but we saw nothing. After ten minutes of cruising around the area it became too dark to see so we went back to town.

I am not sure my companions saw this, it happened so quickly it could easily have been missed, but I described what I had seen so vividly that they were as excited as I was. My first impression was that it was a cloud but it was traveling at right angles to the wind.

The local of this incident was approximately 20 miles north-west of Habberbishopsliem. If necessary, I will swear to the authenticity of this and to the shape of the object.

4/5/27

Sincerely Yours,

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U. ED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JU'IC

To: COMMUNICATIONS SECTION.

AUGUST 7, 1947

Transmit the following message to:

SAC, DETROIT "URGENT"

UNSUBS:  INFORMANTS, FLYING DISC, MISC.

REURTEL AUGUST 5 MATERIAL SHOULD NOT BE FORWARDED TO FBI LABORATORY FOR EXAMINATION BUT SHOULD BE TURNED OVER TO THE ARMY AIRFORCE INTELLIGENCE. 67c

HOVER

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Date: August 1, 1947
To: Director of Intelligence
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PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL
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Attention: <empty> b7c
From: John Edgar Hoover, Director - Federal Bureau of Investigation
Subject: <empty> b7c

There are attached hereto copies of a letter received from the above-captioned individual concerning "flying saucers."

letter has been acknowledged and she has been advised that copies of her letter have been furnished to you for your con- 67C

sideration.

Mr. Tolson
Mr. E. A. Teter
Mr. Clegg
Mr. Glavin
Mr. Ladd
Mr. Nicholas
Mr. Ruben
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Carson
Mr. Ryan
Mr. Darries
Mr. Harbo
Mr. Hendon
Mr. Pennington
Mr. Quinn Team
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7 July 1947

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1. On 1 July 1947, Lt William G. M'Inty, USAF, 195803, P-80 Student, Williams Field, Chandler, Arizona, was interviewed by this Agent, and stated in substance: That on 30 June 1947, at about 0910, MST, he was flying at 25,000 feet over Grand Canyon, Arizona, in a P-80 type aircraft. He stated that he was heading south towards Williams Field, Arizona, when he saw two round objects going at inconceivable speeds, straight down. He further stated that his reactions were to turn away from the objects. He further stated that one of the unidentifiable objects followed the other seconds apart. He further stated that due to the speed of the objects, he could only see that they were circular, and that they were possible light gray in color. He further stated that it was his opinion that the objects were approximately eight feet in diameter. In conclusion, he stated that the objects would have probably hit the ground approximately twenty-five miles south of the South Rim of Grand Canyon, Arizona.

MEMPHIS NUTS: Lt McGinty gave his permanent address as: N.A.H.T.C.,
Point Hugu, Fort Huenele, Calif.

2. On 1 July 1947, Captain Malcolm G. Armstrong, D-734168; Instructor, Single Engine, Williams Field, Chandler, Arizona, was interviewed by this Agent and stated in substance: That his brother, 1st Lt S. B. Armstrong, stationed at Ing, 10th ARF, Brooks AAF, Texas had related to him that he saw a formation of unexplainable objects in the vicinity of Lake Head, Nev. Captain Armstrong, further stated that his brother stated the objects were heading south, and were at approximately 10,000 feet altitude.

ACFDT'3 NOTE: Captain Armstrong could not give too such information on the objects that his brother had seen. Lt. J. R. Armstrong can be contacted at Hq, 10th AF, Brooks Field, Texas for further information.

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AUTH Para 1-603 DOD 5200

Lynn C. Alarich, Special Agent, CIC-AIF, PDTRC

THIS IS A TRUE COPY

J. Frank / Chester
JOHN K. ORR, Major, A.C.

42-83874-38X

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# Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

TO: D.M.LADD
FROM: <empty>
SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS
Miscellaneous

DATE: July 7, 1947
9:50 PM

Mr. Tolson
Mr. E. A. Tamm
Mr. Clegg
Mr. Glavin
Mr. Ladd
Mr. Nichols
Mr. Rosen
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Carson
Mr. Egan
Mr. Gurnea
Mr. Harbo

SAC Weeks called from New Orleans on the matter discussed in the attached teletype. He wanted to know what policy the Bureau was following in connection with reports concerning these "flying discs" which were being received.

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Room

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I told Mr. Weeks that, unless advised to the contrary, he should, in the particular case at hand, allow G-2 to handle and not take any jurisdiction for the FBI. He was told the Bureau would be interested in being kept advised of developments, and in copies of the photographs he said G-2 would make of the object found, but that he should not allow himself to be jockeyed into a position where investigative responsibility, if any were entailed, would fall on us. Mr. Weeks said he would so handle unless I called him back immediately with instructions for specific action.

As you will recall, I called you concerning the foregoing.

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TO: DIRECTOR, FBI
DATE: July 22, 1947
FROM: <signature>
SAC, EL PASO
SUBJECT:
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FLYING OBJECTS IN AIR

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has come to the resident agency at Santa Fe, New Mexico on several occasions to report that she has received information concerning flying objects passing through the air. Some of the reports that she has received concern light objects seen at night which have allegedly been followed by explosions. She advised that one of such objects was reported by , who works near Canjilon, New Mexico. She claims that 67C others were seen near Park: View and Tierra Amarilla, New Mexico.

called attention to clippings from various newspapers 67C concerning "disc-like" objects seen in New Mexico and other parts of the country.

claims to be a student of radio waves and ray forms, and contends that the above mentioned objects may be missiles similar to those appearing over Sweden some time ago.

has discussed the above with officials of the Atomic Energy Commission, and has written the Secretary of War and other government officials concerning her theories. 67c

for the A.E.C., has advised that officials at Los Alamos consider  unreliable and possibly not well balanced mentally. She has mentioned to agents of this office that she was struck by lightning when a child.

On July 15,  came to the Santa Fe resident agency and advised that she had written to WALTER WINCHELL, promising him a story in connection with the "flying discs."

The foregoing information is being submitted to the Bureau, inasmuch as has written to several government officials and Mr. WINCHELL.

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# Office Memorandum UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

TO: D. M. LADD <signature>
DATE: 7/24/47
Mr. Tolson: <empty>
Mr. E. A. Tamm: <empty>
Mr. Clegg: <empty>
FROM: E. G. Fitch <signature>
Mr. Coffey: <empty>
Mr. Glavin: <empty>
Mr. Ladd: <empty>
SUBJECT: FLYING DISCS
Mr. Nichols: <empty>
Mr. Rosen: <empty>
Mr. Tracy: <empty>
Mr. Mohr: <empty>
Mr. Carson: <empty>
Mr. Hendon: <empty>

Reference is made to my memorandum to you in the above captioned

Reference is made to my memorandum to you in the above captioned matter dated July 10, 1947, indicating that Brigadier General George F. Schulgen of the Army Air Corps Intelligence had requested that the Bureau cooperate with the Army Air Corps Intelligence in connection with the above captioned matter. The Director noted on the referenced memorandum, "I would do it but before agreeing to it we must insist upon full access to discs recovered. For instance in the La. case the Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory examination."

Mr. Jones

Dr. Quin:

Tele. Room

No. 2020

Miss Boahen

Miss Candy

This is to advise that Special Agent  has recontacted General Schulgen and advised him in connection with the Director's notation. General Schulgen indicated to  that he desired to assure Mr. Hoover of complete cooperation in this matter and stated that he would issue instructions to the field directing that all cooperation be furnished to the FBI and that all discs recovered be made available for the examination by the FBI Agents. General Schulgen pointed out to  that he will from time to time make the results of the studies of his scientists available to the Bureau for the assistance of the FBI Field Offices. General Schulgen indicated to  that there has been a decrease in the reported sightings of the discs which might be because of the fact that it has lost much of its publicity value. He indicated, however, that he believed it necessary to follow this matter through to determine as near as possible if discs were in fact seen and to determine their origin.

General Schulgen inquired of  the method by which the Bureau would make the information obtained from the Bureau's inquiries, known to the Air Corps, in the Field as well as at the War Department level. Mr.  pointed out to General Schulgen that the best procedure appeared to be through the regular established channels. It was pointed out to General Schulgen that the Bureau Field Offices maintain close liaison with the Intelligence Divisions of the various Armies as well as close liaison with the Intelligence Division of the War Department. General Schulgen indicated that he would be satisfied to receive information through this means. 162-838

General Schulgen indicated to that he believed that there was a possibility that this entire matter might have been started by subversive individuals for the purpose of creating a mass hysteria. He suggested that the Bureau keep this in mind in any interviews conducted regarding reported sightings

General Schulgen stated to  that he would make available to the Bureau all information in the possession of the Air Corps regarding the sightings which were first-reported so that the Bureau could conduct some investigation regarding these individuals to ascertain their motives for reporting that they had observed flying discs. When General Schulgen makes the information available regarding these individuals, it will be promptly brought to your attention.

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Dear:

I desire to acknowledge receipt of your letter dated July 14, 1947, and to express my appreciation to you for bringing this matter to my attention.

The information set forth in your letter has been carefully reviewed and is being maintained in this Bureau as a matter of record.

Sincerely yours,

John Edgar Hoover
Director

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ir.J.Edgar Hoover.Chief,of the F.B.I.
ashington,D.C.

Dear Sir;
Please forgive me for taking up your time,with this item.It really : necessary.Yot,although everybodys tongue was wagging from the East and to the West coast,I couldn't resist putting my oar in.

Flying Saucers in the Sky.Heading for the Milky Way.Funny?I dont know.

We read and read and read."Sky Disc Derby Open to All"-"Calls 'Saucers' or of Vision"-"Believe it or not,27 States see those flying saucers"-"Who saw: t] saucers?40 States in the Game"-"Celestial Dishes sought between the Raindrop: 'Find 'Disk'is weather kite"-"Disks called chunks of Mirage"-"Report new Red Planes resemble'Flying Saucers'".-Air-liner crew reports seeing 9 flying dis] for 12 minutes".That's the way it went on,for days and days.

Please,dont remind me that this is a military problem.Soldiers fight the emmy out in the open and away from home if possible.The Federal Agents(the un heroes)fight the ememy under cover and in their home grounds.So.Here I am.

These so-called saucers may be kites,but according to reports,these thing idn't flutter or float,they sailed and kites don't sail,the stranges part i they all sailed in the same direction,from West to East.

Rewards were offered,no collectors.Planes chased them,none captured.They h
o land,no finders.So.As long as the Military,Scientist and Civilians deny,be
espomsible for this.Were does it lead to?An enemy.A little while back,it was
mentioned somewhere that Russia had or has a contraption for their next war,c
etting sound(like a silent whistle for dogs)what it'skx to do,th their enemy,I
ion't know.If a country was experimenting such a weapon,the brave people of t
.S.were not scared.They only informed the so-called enemy how successful the
nstr were.

It could be an optical illusion,or;supposing some unwelcomed persons,plant few well chosen words,here and there and left the rest to an confused mind. These innocent people reporting the phenomena.

What confuses me is, that when we became too curious and determined to find out what they really are, those things disappeared and we found substitutes, copies. These things resembling description as near as possible to the real thing couldn't these things have been directed back home again like a homing pigeon? To make sport of this thing, is bad taste. It sort of reminds me of the boy cried WOLF. When the wolf really came. I was sad. He, was a nice boy. There should be laws, against such jokes or experiments in the future. They should be conducted in secret, should be tried for treason, even; if the so-called joke seems senseless or ridiculous. We can't take any chances. At this age, Time is slow. Man, is his POOH POOH business. is no joke.

I had in mind that the floods were responsible for these disks(mirages)the rushing waters of the Mississippi, Missouri, Platte, Columbia and Ohio Rivers. The un going from East to West, plus the Catskill in the Easterly North, The Blue ridge in the East and the Rocky Mountains in the West. Refections, or whatever i are, went from West to East. Hence the Disks? I hope so. 62 - 8309

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Deer Sir,

Reading about Kenneth Arnold again; those flying saucers. I got a brain-storm, maybe there is someone that is Manufacturing a contraption that could be sent up by Remote Control. And could be used against us.

Yours Sinc



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Edgar Hoover
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Washington, D.C.

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# Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

TO : D. M. LADD <signature>
DATE: 7/10/47

FROM : E. G. Fitch

SUBJECT: FLYING DISKS

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perman

At request of Auditor General George F. Schulgen, Chief of the Requirements Intelligence Branch of Army Air Corps Intelligence, Special Agent discussed the above captioned matter with him on July 9, 1947. General Schulgen indicated to that the Air Corps has taken the attitude that every effort must be undertaken in order to run down and ascertain whether or not the flying disks are a fact and, if so, to learn all about them. According to General Schulgen, the Air Corps Intelligence are utilizing all of their scientists in order to ascertain whether or not such a phenomenon could in fact occur. He stated that this research is being conducted with the thought that the flying objects might be a celestial phenomenon and with the view that they might be a foreign body mechanically devised and controlled.

General Schulgen also indicated to that all Air Corps installations have been alerted to run out each reported sighting to obtain all possible data to assist in this research project. In passing, General Schulgen stated that an Air Corps pilot who believed that he saw one of these objects was thoroughly interrogated by General Schulgen and scientists, as well as a psychologist, and the pilot was adamant in his claim that he saw a flying disk.

General Schurgen advised  that the possibility exists that the first reported sightings of the so-called flying disks were fallacious and prompted by individuals seeking personal publicity, or were reported for political reasons. He stated that if this was so, subsequent sightings might be the result of a mass hysteria. He pointed out that the thought exists that the first reported sightings might have been by individuals of Communist sympathies with the view to causing hysteria and fear of a secret Russian weapon.

General Schulgen indicated to  that he is desirous of having all the angles covered in this matter. He stated that reports of his scientists and findings of the various Air Corps installations will be available in his office. He advised that to complete the picture he desired the assistance of the Federal Bureau of Investigation in locating and questioning the individuals who first sighted the so-called flying disks in order to ascertain whether or not they are sincere in their statements that they saw these disks, or whether their statements were prompted by personal desire for publicity or political reasons. General Schulgen assured  that there are no War Department or Navy Department research projects presently being conducted which could in any way be tied up with the flying disks. General Schulgen indicated to  that if the Bureau would cooperate with him in this matter, he would offer all the facilities of his office as to results obtained in the effort to identify and run down this matter.

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also discussed this matter with  of MP.  indicated that it was his attitude that inasmuch as it has been established that the flying disks are not the result of any Army or Navy experiments, the matter is of interest to the FBI. He stated that he was of the opinion that the Bureau, if at all possible, should accede to General Schulgen's request. 67c

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I would recommend that we advise the Army that the Bureau does not believe it should go into these investigations, it being noted that a great bulk of those alleged discs reported found have been pranks. It is not believed that the Bureau would accomplish anything by going into these investigations.

DML

I think we should do this

I would do it but before agreeing I would insist upon full access to discs recovered. For instance in the case the Army grabbed it would not let me have it for x-ray examination.

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(B) FLYING DISCS -- The Bureau, at the request of the Army Air Forces Intelligence, has agreed to cooperate in the investigation of flying discs. The Air Forces have confidentially advised that it is possible to release three or more discs in odd numbers, attached together by a wire, from an airplane in high altitudes and that these discs would obtain tremendous speed in their descent and would decend to the earth in an arc. The Army Air Forces Intelligence has also indicated some concern that the reported sightings might have been made by subversive individuals for the purpose of creating a mass hysteria.

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You should investigate each instance which is brought to your attention of a sighting of a flying disc in order to ascertain whether or not is is a bona fide_sighting, an imaginary one or a prank. You should also bear in mind that individuals might report seeing flying discs for various reasons. It is conceivable that an individual might be desirous of seeking personal publicity, causing hysteria or playing a prank.

The Bureau should be notified immediately by teletype of all reported sightings and the results of your inquiries. In instances where the report appears to have merit, the teletype should be followed by a letter to the Bureau containing in detail the results of your inquiries. The Army Air Forces have assured the Bureau complete cooperating in these matters and in any instances where they fail to make information available to you or make the recovered discs available for your examination, it should promptly be brought to the attention of the Bureau.

Any information you develop in connection with these discs should be promptly brought to the attention of the Army through your usual liaison channels.

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Dear  b7c

I wish to acknowledge receipt of your Western Union telegram dated July 6, 1947. Your interest in bringing this information to my attention is greatly appreciated.

Inasmuch as the contents of your telegram appear to be of interest to the War Department only, I have taken the liberty of turning this information over to that Department.

Sincerely yours,

John Edgar Hoover
Director



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cc - Savannah

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San Marcos, Texas 67c

Dear  107C

I wish to acknowledge receipt of your Western Union telegram dated July 7, 1947. Your interest in making this information available to me is greatly appreciated.

Inasmuch as the contents of your telegram appear to be of interest to the War Department only, I have taken the liberty of making the information furnished by you available to that Department.

Sincerely yours,

John Edgar Hoover
Director

cc - San Antonio

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Dear  67c

Your letter dated July 17, 1947, together with enclosures, has been received and I want to thank you for submitting the letter you mentioned to me.

Sincerely yours,

John Edgar Hoover
Director .

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Mr. Tolson
Mr. E. A. Tarr
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Mr. Harbo
Mr. Mohr
Mr. Pennington
Mr. Quinn Tamm
Mr. Nease
Gina Gandy

Mr. J. Edgar Hoover,
FBI
Washington, D.C.

Dear Mr. Hoover:

The enclosed came to my husband yesterday. After reading it aloud to the family, as a good example of crack-pot-ism, advertising or what have you, he threw it into the wastebasket. I retrieved it, thinking it might better go into your wastebasket than ours, examined by your department en route thither, as of possible value. I presume several thousand have been mailed, and you may receive numberless duplicates. I will risk that. as an economist at Columbia University receives many str missives. This is as strange a one as has come for some time, and very appropriate to the present moment.

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Sincerely yours,

July 17, 1947
Home address: Westport, Conn.

Dr. J. J. Hark

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Dear Sir:

Have you seen one of the mysterious "Saucers"?
What did it look like?

Do you think these strange, celestial manifestations are harbingers of a better day?

Do you believe it means that a new and revolutionary advance is coming?

Will it make your life brighter, happier, more useful?

We believe one of these startling discs is on its way to you. Then the secret will be out.

The Combined and Amalgamated Committee of Sky-Scanners, Disc Decipherers and New-Product Introducers.

ENCLOSURE

FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION

U. S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

COMMUNICATIONS SECTION

JUL 18 1947

TELETYPE

Mr. B. A. Tainter
Mr. Clegg
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Mr. Ladd
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SECURITY MATTER-X, SECURITY OFFICER, M.I.T.

CAMBRIDGE, MASS., ADVISED THAT TODAY HE WAS IN CONTACT WITH ONE

OF WEST RINDGE, N.H., A RETIRED OF THE

ENGLAND TEL. AND TEL.CO. ADVISED THAT AT APPROXIMATEY THREE

PM ON JULY SEVEN LAST SEVERAL PEOPLE SITTING ON A PORCH OBSERVED ON T

LAWN OF: , ROUTE: , WEST RINDGE, N.H., LITTLE SU

OF SMOKE,WHICH ON INSPECTION DISCLOSED SMALL BURNED AREA SPOTS ABOUT ON

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GRASS ON BOTH SIDES OF ROAD IN A CIRCLE APPROXIMATELY TWO HUNDRED FE

IN DIAMETER SEVERAL LITTLE BLAZES HAD STARTED AND THE FIRE

DEPT. WAS CALLED. FIRES WERE APPARENTLY CAUSED BY METALLIC FRAGMENTATION

WHICH WERE TURNED OVER TO:  OF MIT, BY A:

, OF THE TELEPHONE COMPANY.  HAS ADVISED.

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SIXTEENTHS OF AN INCH THICK, AND MACHINE TOOLED, AND SOME FRAGMENTS. INDICATED THEY WERE BURNED AND  APPEARED TO HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO TERRIFIC HEAT. THESE SCIENTISTS ARE TREATING THIS MATTER AS CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. MR.  AT WEST RINDGE, N.H. IS ALSO ENDEAVORING TO COLLECT ADDITIONAL FRAGMENTS AND HAS STATED 676 THAT THE FIRE CHIEF AT WEST RINDGE HAS ALSO SEVERAL FRAGMENTS IN HIS POSSESSION.  INDICATED THAT THE  RESIDENCE IS SEVEN TO EIGHT HUNDRED FEET EAST OF THE RAILROAD TRACKS.  STATED HE WILL MAKE THE RESULTS OF M I T RESEARCH AVAILABLE IF SIGNIFICANT. OPINIONS OF SCIENTISTS AS SET FORTH ABOVE SUGGEST POSSIBLE MILITARY INTEREST. MILITARY AUTHORITIES AT BOSTON HAVE NOT BEEN NOTIFIED.

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Office Mer. Oandum • UNITED ORES GOVERNMENT

TO: DIRECTOR, FBI
DATE: July 18, 1947
FROM: SAC, NEW HAVEN
SUBJECT: "FLYING SAUCERS"
EDWIN M. BAILEY, JR.
STAMFORD, CONNECTICUT, INFORMANT
ATOMIC ENERGY ACT
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For the information of the Bureau this is to advise that on July 7, 1947,  Stamford, Connecticut, appeared at the Stamford Resident Agent's office and furnished the following information:- 67c

prefaced his remarks by stating that he is a scientist by occupation and is currently employed at the American Cyanamid Research Laboratories on West Main Street in Stamford, Connecticut, in the Physics Division. further indicated that during the war he was employed at MIT, Cambridge, Massachusetts, in the Radiation Laboratory which Laboratory is connected with the Manhattan Project. advised that he is thirty years of age and is a graduate of the University of Arizona.

stated that the topic of "flying saucers" had caused considerable comment and concern to the present day scientists and indicated that he himself had a personal theory concerning the "flying saucers". Prior to advancing his own theory, remarked that immediately after the conclusion of World War II, a friend of his, allegedly observed the "flying saucers" from an observatory in Milan and Bologna, Italy. He stated that apparently at that time the "flying saucers" had caused a little comment in Italy but that after some little publicity they immediately died out as public interest. stated that it is quite possible that actually the "flying saucers" could be radio controlled germ bombs or atom bombs which are circling the orbit of the earth and which could be controlled by radio and directed to land on any designated target at the specific desire of the agency or country operating the bombs. He stated that one of the items of interest which he personally has observed is the fact that the saucers have been observed in Mexico City, New Orleans, Philadelphia, New York, Boston, Halifax, Newfoundland, Paris, Milan, Bologna and Yugoslavia as well as Albania. By placing a string around the globe of the earth it

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STANFORD, CONNECTICUT, INFORMANT

ATOMIC ENERGY ACT.

would be noticed that all of the above-mentioned cities form a direct orbit or circle around the earth and would be more or less in line of any path in which the saucers could be circling.

further stated that he had recently talked with , one of the owners of in Glenbrook, Connecticut, and had been informed by that his company is making a large powerful telescope to be used in searching the stratosphere for atom bombs.

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FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
U. S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
COMMUNICATIONS SECTION

Mr. Tolson
Mr. Clees
Mr. Glavin
Mr. Ladd
Mr. Nichols
Mr. Rosen
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Egan
Mr. Gurnea
Mr. Harbo
Mr. Mohr
Mr. Pennington
Mr. Nease

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67C , SEATTLE, REPORTED FLYING DISK HAD LANDED ABOUT NINE FORTY TWO PM LAST NIGHT, THAT IT WAS BURNING AT IMMEDIATELY EXTINGUISHED. SHE ALSO ADVISED ONI, AND DISK DISTANCE FROM THEIR OFFICES. AGENTS IMMEDIATELY DISPATCHED AND RECOVERED DISK TAKEN ONI OFFICES AND EXAMINED BY NAVY ELECTRONICS EXPERTS AND AGENTS. DISK DESCRIBED TWENTY EIGHT INCH CIRCULAR PIECE THREE SIXTEENTH IN CLIPPED UP ON TWO SIDES AND HELD THIS POSITION BY WIRE ACRD DISK NEILY PAINTED LIGHT GRAY OUTSIDE AND RED INSIDE, AND PRINTED LETTERS IN WHITE PAINT AS FOLLOWS QUOTE U S S

MR. REESE
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AND A HAMMER AND SICKLE. MOUNTED ON PIECES OF BAKELITE IN THE CENTER
OF THE INSIDE OF THE DISK WERE TWO RADIO TUBES, WHICH WERE WIRED UP
AND ALSO SO MOUNTED WAS ABOUT A QUART TYPE CYLINDRICAL SHAPED OIL CAN
TO WHICH WAS FITTED A SHORT PIECE OF RUBBER TUBING RUNNING FROM CAN
TO ENTRANCE TO A PIECE OF ONE INCH PIPE ABOUT FOURTEEN INCHES LONG.

THE PIPE EXTENDED THROUGH THE DISK
HAD ABOUT A SIX INCH PIECE OF CLOTH
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STANDARD FORM NO. 64

# Office Memorandum

# UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

TO : Director, FBI
DATE: July 3, 1947
FROM : SAC, Butte
b7c
SUBJECT : FLYING DISCS

Mr. , of the Idaho Daily Statesman, Boise, Idaho, telephonically contacted the Butte Office and asked if the FBI was checking on the flying discs reported to have been seen by many citizens. He advised that so many had reported having seen them that it undoubtedly was not a figment of the imagination. He said that these discs had been seen on July 1, 1947, in the vicinity of Trail Creek near Sun Valley, Idaho, by reputable citizens.

The writer informed that this office was not making an investigation and inquired as to whether he had contacted Army and Navy officials. He said that he was inquiring of these agencies.

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TO: Director, FBI
DATE: July 17, 1947
FROM: SAC, Los Angeles
SUBJECT: RECOVERY OF "FLYING DISC", NORTH HOLLYWOOD, CALIFORNIA, JULY 9, 1947

On the evening of July 9, 1947, a report was received at the Los Angeles Office that a so-called "flying disc" had landed in the vicinity of Radford and Magnolia Streets in North Hollywood, California, the contraption being briefly described as approximately 30 inches in diameter, all metal, disc shaped, and having a radio antenna. It was reported to have burst into flames upon landing. At the time of the report the disc was being held at the Valley Fire Department in Van Nuys, California.

SA went to the fire department immediately at which time it was found that a number of people had gathered including newspaper reporters and photographers who were taking pictures of the disc. Battalion Fire Chief advised Agent that at approximately 10:30 P.M., an unknown woman called on the telephone and excitedly reported that the disc had dropped into her garden where it began to flame, her residence being located at 11858 Magnolia Boulevard, North Hollywood. A fire department truck was sent there and put out the flaming object with the fire hose, after which the object was taken to the fire station. SA thereafter arranged to transport the disc to the office.

The device is briefly described as consisting of two convex steel discs approximately 2 feet in diameter, fused together at the outer edge and fastened together in the center by a hollow cylindrical connection. A vertical galvanized iron fin was screwed to the top of the disc, and a short length of pipe closed at one end ran from the outer circumference into the interior of the contraption. What appeared to be a radio tube was installed in the center of the top side. The contraption had a total weight of approximately 20 pounds.

At the Bureau Office a series of photographs were taken of the device from various positions, and a set of these photographs are being forwarded herewith for the Bureau's inspection and information.

The "flying disc" was thereafter turned over to Major , A.C., G-2, Fort MacArthur, San Pedro, California, who subsequently reported that the object was definitely a hoax and under no circumstances could have flown under its own power.

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Director: FBI

July 17, 1947

Re: RECOVERY OF "FLYING DISC", NORTH HOLLYWOOD, CALIFORNIA, JULY 9, 1947

On the following day, July 10, 1947, one , North Hollywood, reported that on this morning he was at the North Hollywood Service Station eating at which time there was considerable talk about the flying disc having been found in the vicinity. A number of what appeared to be young high school students were present and were having quite a laugh about the excitement caused by the finding of the disc.  stated that he received a definite impression that these young students either had themselves or knew of someone who had been working for the past two weeks making this "flying disc".  was unable to furnish the names of any of these young men but identified one of them who was making the statements as being employed in a Chevron Service Station at the corner of Victory Boulevard and Whitsett Street. He described the youngster as about sixteen years of age.

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The image is not a chart. It shows a close-up, black and white view of what appears to be a mechanical component, possibly a dial or a wheel. Key elements include:

*   **Circular shape:** The main object is a disc.
*   **Markings:** There are triangular shapes spaced around the circumference.
*   **Central element:** A circular hub or mechanism is present in the center.
*   **Pointer/Lever:** A thin, angled object extends from the center towards the edge, overlapping some of the triangular markings.
*   **Textural detail:** The surface has a speckled or textured appearance.

This image is a black and white photograph of a street sign. The sign is round and appears to be a stop sign, indicated by its octagonal shape and the visible text "STOP" in white lettering on a red background, although the colors are not discernable in this monochrome image. The sign is mounted on a pole and is angled towards the viewer. The background is speckled and appears to be outdoors, possibly a street or intersection.

This image is not a chart. It shows a close-up, high-contrast black and white photograph of what appears to be the top of a record player turntable. A triangular tone arm is visible in the foreground, angled towards the center.

STANDARD FORM NO. 64

# Office Men. Qindum

•

# UNITED OYES GOVERNMENT

TO: MR. LADD <signature>
FROM: <empty> b7C
SUBJECT: FLYING SAUCERS (DISCS)
INFORMATION CONCERNING

DATE: July 10, 1947
Mr. Tolson
Mr. E. A. Tamm
Mr. Clegg
Mr. Glavin
Mr. Ladd
Mr. Nichols
Mr. Rosen
Mr. Tracy
Mr. Carson
Mr. Egan
Mr. Gurnea
Mr. Harbo
Mr. Hendon
Mr. Pennington
Mr. Quinn Tamm
Tele. Room
Nease
Gandy
phonically contacted the
July 9, 1947, the office

At 5:45 AM this date, SAC Hood telephonically contacted the Bureau and advised at approximately 11:30 PM, July 9, 1947, the office in Los Angeles had received information from the Resident Agent at Burbank, California, that a "flying disc" had landed in or near Burbank and had been seen to burst into flame when it landed. Further, that it had been the cause of a fire in some woods, this fire either in Burbank or possibly in the city limits of Los Angeles, which Mr. Hood could not be certain. The fire chief at Burbank had called the resident agent at Burbank and told him he would hold the disc for him.

Coincident with the information received from Burbank, the Los Angeles Office received calls from the newspapers requesting information. The newspapers stating they had called the Army Air Force Intelligence who had stated "we are not interested". According to Mr. Hood, this comment had aroused the newspapers and they stated they intended to publish this quotation and belabor same in their first issues. Mr. Hood stated that he had refrained from making any statement to the press other than to admit possession of an object and that it was being turned over to military authorities in the morning (this AM), it being Mr. Hood's opinion that he did not want any quotes in the press and certainly not one to the effect that we were not interested.

As described to him, Mr. Hood stated that the object was an aluminum disc about 2' in diameter weighing about ten pounds, painted with aluminum paint and having some sort of a radio tube in the center of the disc. This object was in possession of the resident agent at Burbank and would be turned over to military authorities (G-2) in Los Angeles this morning.

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Mr. Hood's purpose in calling was to place the Bureau on notice regarding the above described object and any further information would be transmitted to the

Action: None indicated.

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I wish to acknowledge receipt of your letter postmarked July 7, 1947. The information contained therein has been carefully reviewed and is being made a matter of permanent record in the files of this Bureau. Your interest in writing as you did is indeed appreciated.

In the future should you have information which you feel might be of interest to this Bureau you might find it convenient to contact the Special Agent in Charge of our Chicago Office, which is located at 1900 Bankers' Building, Chicago 3, Illinois.

Sincerely yours,

John Edgar Hoover
Director

cc - Chicago (Wit\incoming. There is no identifiable information in the Bureau's
files concerning the writer of this letter. Despite the fact that
this letter refers to "flying discs", it is not believed that the
information furnished is sufficiently important to refer to Army
authorities.)

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FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
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Mr. J. Edgar Hoover
Wash. D.C.

Doesn't it seem wisest for you to forbid papers - (No not forbid - but ask the co-operation of all papers) to keep all news of those discs out of the news until you are sure just what they are & where from.

Seems to us with all the enemies we have, even within our borders, it could be something far more important than may seem at first. I had 2 sons in this war & another who over-did for his America - & we do want it really protected from danger from now on. Enough are dead & maimed - with-out losing out now as it easily could be. Why have the papers carried that story if reporters were made to see how much more sensible not to report - it except to the F.B.I.

There is too much of danger ahead anyway -

Hastily

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Doesn't if seem wisest for you & forbid papers (we not forbid - but ask)

The co-operation of all papers to keep all press & those
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