"Some church leaders get it, and some church leaders don't," Hollins said.
What Baroness Sheila Hollins, a professor psychiatry, meant to say was............."Some church leaders get it, and some church leaders CHOOSE TO DENY the evil, pain and destruction of childhood sexual abuse."

On another topic, who cares if many dicasteries show up for the commission proceedings.......they might as well just change their name to "disasteries"