ron, i agree. if all nonprofits and government agencies, churches and others involved in homelessness in hawaii came together, pooled resources, talent, energy and time, progress might be made. until then the disjointed, arrogant, knee jerk responses we have seen will continue to prevent real work to progress on this issue. the sad fact is that no one knows just how much money and manpower is being wasted right now, or even how much is available.