not opposed to industry - opposed to polluting industry ... closed containment won't offer foreign countries get-rich-quick deals but they will employ people and generate taxes ... remember how we used to use horse and buggies? well that was a big change when the internal combustion engine came around (and now the electric will replace that) but we can do this! we can change! we can adapt and learn to do things differently ... don't be without hope Ellis Ross, otherwise indigenous rights will continue to be violated (maybe that is why you were asked to do this interview?) and salmon will continue to "collapse" (remember the cod)