Hmmmn from the comments associated with this letter and the many other articles about downtown Eugene and those who go there to work or do other things there seems to be a definite trend shaping up. If the trend actually is and continues ...that people are no longer going to go there because of the loitering aggressuvd vagrants and filth. If this trend of abandoning the downtown, by the commerce contributors,  for the second time in the last 40 years - can it survive it's current attempted revival. Logically no as survival is commerce dependent and the "paying" public is saying - no thank you to the "mess"  I will no longer go there. If this trend holds what will we find downtown 10-15 years from today? If this is as serious a situation as the trend is suggesting then something more then band-aids and circular discussion is needed. The "trend" in comments relay some crappy and disgusting stuff going on there..I can't imagine they are just making this stuff up.