Where employers (and landlords) are the victims? It hardly exists. Further, like I pointed out, Ted Bundy and Charles Manson once had "clean" records. When they acquire criminal records it's not called "recidivism," but it's crime just the same, a concept lost on tough-on-crime Republicans. How long do we need to wait before Tim Allen and Martha Stewart re-offend? Shouldn't they be unemployed, collecting welfare, while we wait? What a great system Republicans have contrived. How much longer till Jesus gets here? Inquiring minds want to know.