CleanupEugene:  I actually suggest that it's more constructive to become involved in governance that to stand on the sidelines and whine.  It's so easy to tell everyone what they're doing wrong.....but, then not offer any alternaives or constructive suggestions.  You obviously are very unhappy with the Eugene City Council....My suggestion is simple:  Get involved.....offer ideas and suggestions.....either run for the Council or promote someone you think can do better.  If you'd rather just make your snarky comments, that's up to you.  But at least realize they don't really accomplish anything constructive.  I'd happily sit down with you any time for a civil conversation regarding political and social issues or any topic of mutual interest. Should you ever be interested. give me a call.  regards, Gary Crum