You have not answered my questions about the great commission or the parables,  Did you read the website I directed you to?  If all is predestined why are you even bothering to argue with me?   Why do we deal with the great commission.  You are saying we are not born with free will.  That we are some sort of robots.   You are saying there was no need for Christ to die.   Why would he need to die for robots that were predestined for goodness?   Again you take the prayer where he was clearly talking about the 12 and make it apply to every one.  Again, you are taking verses that clearly refer to a mutual choosing and apply it to every one.   If predestination is a given then there is no reason for works.   As John clearly states faith without works is clearly dead.