JPZ, Your view on corporate lobbied for welfare is valid and absolutely correct I am right with you on that. So JPZ you figure out how to eliminate big lobbied for corporate sweetheart handouts. It is past time and I'm listening. But just as bad is the intercity generational I'm entitled to government handouts mentality. And I will vote for whoever will give me more. These people pride themselves not by being productive and self supporting but by how well they game the system. JPZ we do need a security net for folks not able to take care of themselves. and most self sufficient hard working people are willing to pay taxes to help the incapable. A person who applies for public assistance basically declares themselves to be a ward of the state. Prisoners are wards of the state and are not allowed to vote. If you are a ward of the state on welfare then you should temporarily not be able to vote because you will vote fore more and better welfare. Just go to work and have a say.