text,stance,claim "on september 18, holthaus went into more details about the factors causing a sea ice increase in antarctica.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice > antarctica has actually seen an increase in ice mass.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice """even with these large snowfall events, antarctica is still losing ice mass at a faster rate than it is gaining mass from snowfall, mainly due to the regions of known ice dynamic instability, such as in the amundsen sea embayment which includes pine island and thwaites glaciers.""",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is net gaining ice because the artic is losing ice and that cold water goes into the gulf stream.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice > antarctica for example is still gaining billions of tons of ice,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica has been losing ice mass:,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "10 ""antarctica is gaining ice""",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice and antarctica is still losing ice- it’s just currently being offset.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the majority of the film, covering issues like himalayan glaciers, greenland and antarctica losing ice, the severity of hurricanes and other weather phenomena, was accurate and represented the science as it stood.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "> if anything, some models, like the ones predictable antarctica yearly ice growth and retreat was too conservative as data came in and show that we are losing ice faster than what the model predicted.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa reveals that antarctica is producing more ice than it is losing,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice that same website linked an article that contradicts your claim that the ice on antarctica has net gains.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "[this page explains why antarctica gaining sea ice while losing land ice is not a sign that global warming has stopped, or isnt a threat](http://www.skepticalscience.com/antarctica-gaining-ice-intermediate.htm).",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "if the polar caps are melting and heat temperatures are rising, why are we having coldest temperatures on record and [nasa](https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses) is stating that antarctica is growing faster than ice it’s losing?",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice ">a new paper about to be in press, comes at the end of a flurry of papers and reports published this week that claims antarctica was losing ice mass.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice climate disaster might be the price to pay for melting ice on antarctica to gain access to something.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice overall antarctica is contributing to sea level rise meaning it is losing ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "[#5] antarctica is gaining more ice than its losing, nasa says [worldnews] 2 comments",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice why antarctica is losing ice,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "theres the study he linked to me, new from 2015, saying that antarctica is gaining more ice than it is losing.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice new top story from time: antarctica is losing ice 6 times faster today than in 1980s,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice well yeah and antarctica does seem to have been losing more ice lately as temperatures and sea levels rise.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica losing more and more land ice,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "i think the risk is less losing a couple centimeters of the almost guaranteed rise for 1980s projections of ice cap melting, its losing large chunks that could in a matter of days raise the sea level by a meter or few",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica losing nearly 160 billion tons of ice each year,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "arctic ice melting, antarctica losing ice by the shelves at an unprecedented rate.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "no rampant flooding yet, but the northwest passage is actually a thing sometimes.greenland is losing ice and antarctica is getting undermined.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "what data we have strongly suggests that global sea ice is decreasing, with the most rapid decrease being in the arctic, while antarctica seems to be gaining sea ice as its losing land ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "> there is variation between regions within antarctica (figure 2, top panel), with the west antarctic ice sheet and the antarctic peninsula ice sheet losing ice mass, and with an increasing rate.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the only reason to throw that in there is to somehow cast aspersions on climate change, as if the growing surface ice in antarctica somehow negates the fact that the volume ice is decreasing rapidly.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "i had posted at that *other* climate something subreddit that the grace satellites measurements, that contradict icesat, were probably more accurate, and that antarctica was still probably losing ice, net.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice it is not clear that antarctica is gaining ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "if we are already experiencing ocean levels rising while antarctica is gaining ice, how bad will it actually get when it starts losing it...",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "so the hard evidence suggests antarctica is losing ice at an accelerated rate, such acceleration is likely to continue (albeit with uncertainty on the magnitude), and evidence doesnt indicate its driven by changes in volcanism, although it might end up being a feedback.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "> in fact antarctica is actually gaining ice, according to nasa , at a faster rate than its losing ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "greenland is losing ice very quickly, and so is antarctica as a whole.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica also moved north into more temperate regions, losing all of its ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "after all, antarctica has been losing its ice to climate change and could use some more.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "* since 2015, multiple studies have shown that antarctica is losing more ice than its gaining.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica, on the whole, is losing land ice while gaining sea ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "however, antarcticas additional ice mass gained from snowfall makes up for just about a third of its current ice loss.""",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "nasa glaciologist jay zwally says his new study will show, once again, the eastern antarctic ice sheet is [gaining enough ice to offset losses in the west]",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "nasa just confirmed antarctica is actually gaining ice overall, not losing it.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the full picture however antarctica gaining ice mass and is not extraordinary compared to 800 years of data is entirely different, as usual.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice did you know that the study you cited is based on altimetry and that methods based on measuring changes in gravity conclude that antarctica is losing ice?,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice * collapse of west antarctic ice sheet/antarctica begins losing glacial mass at a rate congruent with what we are seeing now in the arctic,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "catastrophic and apocalyptic scenarios that revolve around antarctica continuously losing its ice shelf across decades and centuries is unfounded, unscientific, and no longer supported by any serious academic on the subject.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice """climate models predict that antarctica will gain a considerable amount of ice through additional snowfall under warming, which enhances the moisture-carrying capacity of the atmosphere.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice greenland and antarctica gain so much ice during a time of rapidly increasing CO2 levels,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the result is that while we are warming and losing not only land ice as well as older (thick), perennial sea ice, we are simultaneously increasing the extent of seasonal (thin) sea ice in antarctica.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "it isnt nearly enough to offset sea level rise from ice melting, but the numbers are still impressive as a press release points out (new study reveals increased snowfall in antarctica over last two centuries, the continent is packing on about two dead seas worth of new ice each year",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "were essentially in agreement with other studies that show an increase in ice discharge in the antarctic peninsula and the thwaites and pine island region of west antarctica said jay zwally, a glaciologist with nasa goddard space flight center in greenbelt, maryland, and lead author of the study, which was published on oct. 30 in the journal of glaciology.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "climate deniers claim that the sea level rise were experiencing and going to continue to experience is all natural, yet its tied directly with the warming of the oceans and melting of greenland and antarctica (although antarctica is growing some more ice, its still losing water from land.)",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice >data from nasas grace satellites show that the land ice sheets in both antarctica (upper chart) and greenland (lower) have been losing mass since 2002.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa reveals that antarctica is actually gaining more ice than it is losing.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice luckily for us antarctica is gaining ice,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice satellites measure antarctica losing land ice at an accelerating rate.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is one continent (the north pole is losing ice), and the gain of ice is a rate, and the rate is decreasing.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice > 10 years ago the ipcc predicted increased precipitation in antarctica leading to a net gain in ice mass.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is gaining ice so fast that it offsets the arctic ice shrinkage.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "greenland and antarctica ice loss accelerating | earths great ice sheets, greenland and antarctica, are now losing mass six times faster than they were in the 1990s.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice what does antarctica gaining sea ice have to do with arctic life on the other side of the planet who are losing ice at ridiculous rates?,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing ice 6 times faster today than in 1980s - weih.net,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "there is variation between regions within antarctica , with the west antarctic ice sheet and the antarctic peninsula ice sheet losing ice mass, and with an increasing rate.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice losing ice from west antarctica threatens US coast,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice i think its fairly well established that antarctica has been [losing ice for thousands of years],Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice study reveals net ice gain in antarctica,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice the central and eastern parts of antarctica have been gaining ice faster than the western spur is losing.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the link that you provided for antarctic ice itself says that, if the losses of the antarctic peninsula and parts of west antarctica continue to increase at the same rate theyve been increasing for the last two decades, the losses will catch up with the long-term gain in east antarctica in 20 or 30 years -- i dont think there will be enough snowfall increase to offset these losses.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "so while both antarctica and the arctic are losing ice at a very concerning pace, itll still be centuries before all the ice is free from antarctica even in the worst case scenario.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "just last month, a study published on the scientific journal nature geoscience warned against the possibility of the entire continent of antarctica collapsing within this century due to rapidly melting ice in the region.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice global temperatures are rising and antarctica has been losing ice constantly.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice compare that now to the poles melting they just stated antarctica is losing ice at an accelerating rate.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing six times as much land ice as it is gaining in sea ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "a new nasa study found that antarctica has been adding more ice than its been losing, challenging other research, including that of the uns intergovernmental panel on climate change, that concludes that earths southern continent is losing land ice overall.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice data from nasas grace satellites show that the land ice sheets in both antarctica and greenland are losing mass.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "anyone who is telling you that antarctica, as a whole, is absolutely gaining ice, and a lot of it, has an agenda and probably a right-wing agenda at that.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice well antarctica is currently losing massive chunks of its glacial ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica for example is still gaining billions of tons of ice yearly for example.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "so the hard evidence suggests antarctica is losing ice at an accelerated rate, such acceleration is likely to continue (albeit with uncertainty on the magnitude), and evidence doesnt indicate its driven by changes in volcanism, although it might end up being a feedback.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "there are significant uncertainties in both measurements and model projections for ice sheets at the moment since its extremely hard to simulate marine ice sheet instabilities, but overall were quite certain that antarctica has been losing ice over the observational period from 1992 onwards.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica (thwaites, pine island, and the western antarctic ice sheets) and greenland are now going forward an exponentially increasing sea level rise liability.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "our main disagreement is for east antarctica and the interior of west antarctica – there, we see an ice gain that exceeds the losses in the other areas",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa says antarctica has seen a net gain in ice in the past 15 years.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing ice twice as fast as anyone thought,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "off the top of my head theres the great lakes not drying up, antarctica gaining ice rather than losing it.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the increasing contribution of antarctica to sea-level rise is a global issue, and we need to use every technique available to understand where and how much ice is being lost said professor david vaughan of the british antarctic survey.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "granted, antarctica ice surface area is growing slower than the artic is losing area.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "then why did you say ""antarctica isnt losing ice mass after all !""",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the media takes all this nuance and shoves ""antarctica is losing ice"" into peoples faces because its good for clickbait.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice oh and i believe its true that antarctica is gaining ice on the east side.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the thing is, antarctica is gaining ice at a slower rate every year, and soon (10-20 years) it will start losing ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice new cutting-edge science confirms that antarctica is losing ice faster every year,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "yes antarctica gained more ice, but over all the world is losing ice at an ever increasing rate.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is losing more and more pieces of ice over several years due to what ever theory you want to believe., it doesn matter, theres photos and videos of it breaking off piece by piece some really large.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice article about antarctica ice melt increase,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice greenland antarctica are gaining ice inland losing melting overall ,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the fact that antarctica is gaining sea ice doesnt disprove global warming.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "from what ive read the net change in antarctica is gaining ice, and arctic ice is receding, with an overall net change of losing ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "east antarctica, which was thought to be relatively stable year to year, is now losing 56 billion tons of ice per year.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "greenland is melting noticeably, and will melt more severely once the arctic sea ice is gone, himalayan glaciers are melting, and some parts of antarctica are also losing ice volume.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "2015) has suggested that **until 2008** there might have been a bigger increase in ice on east antarctica than there is a decrease in the west, meaning that total antarctic land ice is increasing.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa has recently confirmed that antarctica is accumulating more ice than losing.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice the ice sheets are gaining in antarctica but that in no way means that ice sheets are not thinning.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "our main disagreement is for east antarctica and the interior of west antarctica – there, we see an ice gain that exceeds the losses in the other areas. zwally added that his team measured small height changes over large areas, as well as the large changes observed over smaller areas.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing far more ice via melt than it gains from new snowfall.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "it could take only a few decades for the ice melt in antarctica to outweigh the ice gains, the papers authors say.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice [trending] nasa study shows that antarctica is actually gaining more ice than its losing,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica amassed a lot of ice these days, but the northern part of the globe crowder didnt talk about, is losing about 3 times that amount, leading to a net loss so out of control, that by 2050 there will be approx.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the people who are sounding the alarm bell about climate change the loudest predicted antarctica would gain ice because of it a decade ago and they were right.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "some leading scientists vocally disagree with the study, which also runs contrary to the prevailing view of experts that antarctica has been losing ice mass over the past few decades""",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "also, antarctica is losing land ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "to answer you question more directly, melting is actually worse in the arctic and greenland right now, but antarctica is still losing ice too.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "however, west antarctica is losing ice at a rate faster than the east is growing.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica still gets a net gain of 80 billion tons of ice a year.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice overall antarctica is losing ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice if theyre not a reliable source then youre going against their claim that antarctica is losing ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "in fact, we know that greenland is hemorrhaging way more ice than antartica is possibly gaining, about 285 tons a year (greenland has lost a staggering amount of ice and its only getting worse )compared to 89 tons a year by the antarctic ",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice but other parts of antarctica are getting warmer and losing ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice your claim is nonsense unless you can show which land area is losing more ice than antarctica and greenland are gaining.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the other thing is, if antarctica had been losing ice like it is now it would have significantly affected sea level - like it is now.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "we know we are losing snow and ice cover on mountains, the average arctic ice cover is shrinking, and glaciers in greenland and antarctica are collapsing into the sea at a higher rate, with sea level rise threatening coasts around the world (more than half the worlds population)",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "but apart from this challenge, all the things we observe on antarctica, both the increase in snow fall and ice sheets growing in the inland and eastern antarctica and the increase in ice melting and loss in the western part of the continent and its coastal areas - are due to global warming.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "actually antarctica is gaining ice sheets by mass, its just the net ice sheet is decreasing because greenland is losing ice faster than antarctica is gaining ice",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "wrong again, antarctica is losing ice according to zallys 2021 paper.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica has gained more ice than weve lost in the arctic and we now a huge net gain in ice (all of which was predicted over 50 years ago due to the changes in earths orbit around the sun.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the hypothetical im showing here is clearly meters - 60 or more by most estimates, mainly driven by antarctica and greenland losing all ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "> in a landmark study published thursday in the journal science, 47 researchers from 26 laboratories report the combined rate of melting for the ice sheets covering greenland and antarctica has increased during the last 20 years.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice most studies show that antarctica is losing overall ice mass.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the latest data reveal that antarctica is losing ice at an accelerating rate, too.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the south pole ( antarctica) is gaining ice.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice he was right when he said that antarctica is actually still gaining ice as we speak.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice [science] - antarctica is losing ice twice as fast as anyone thought | pbs,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "for instance, it is a fact that east antarctica is gaining total ice mass.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice his stance is that inevitably the loss of ice mass in western antarctica will exceed the gain in the eastern regions it just doesnt happen yet.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "sciencenews: due to global warming, antarctica is losing ice faster than it can be replaced.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the data show that the continent is gaining more ice in some areas, like parts of east antarctica.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "wait i recall it being greenland losing ice and antarctica gaining ice, but that greenland was losing it faster than antarctica was gaining.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "sea ice increases in antarctica do not make up for the accelerated arctic sea ice loss of the last decades, a new nasa study finds.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "nasas site shows the ice area in antarctica has increased in the last 30 years - however, the arctic is losing cover several times faster, _and_ antarcticas increased ice cover is because of thin ice while the thick ice melts, and it is losing 180 billion tons of ice per year.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "between 2003 and 2008, antarctica gained some 82 billion tons of ice annually.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice study concludes antarctica is gaining ice rather than losing it,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice greenland and antarctica have lost 4tn tonnes of ice in 20 years - greenland losing ice mass at 5x rate of early 1990s,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "also: antarctica is colder than the arctic, but its still losing ice",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing over a hundred billion tons of ice per year.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice why didnt you touch that antarctica ice is a net gain?,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing ice at an increasingly rapid rate,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the actual ""consensus narrative"" for antarctica for many years was that the continent would probably gain a small amount of ice for a few centuries due to anthropogenic influence, with increased precipitation (as snowfall) initially outweighing the direct effects of temperature increase.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica has a net gain of ice every year.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "while it is true antarctica is seeing a gain, overall world ice levels are falling quickly.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice ice cap thicknesses in both greenland and antarctica are increasing.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice the variance is quite large here but the small ice mass gain in east antarctica is dwarfed by the total ice loss.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "firstly, though, you should know that just because surface mass balance is increasing does not mean antarctica isnt losing ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "honestly, if you believe most of the talking points (the earth changes on its own, there is not scientific consensus, antarctica is gaining ice etc), you have fallen trap to their disinformation.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "and, also according to nasa the amount of ice antarctica is gaining has dropped after about 2003.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice but yes antarctica does gain ice every year but it takes longer to grow trees.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the evidence does seem to suggest that antarctica is losing land ice but gaining sea ice, all while the southern ocean is warming up",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice its also pretty clear that antarctica is losing ice by the day.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice " previously, data suggested that antarctica was losing ice while the arctic was gaining a fraction of it.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the answer is that the antarctic is losing ice, though some parts are gaining, but more is lost overall",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica losing nearly 160 billion tons of ice each year,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice eli5: the new nasa study stating that antarctica is gaining more ice than its losing.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "were essentially in agreement with other studies that show an increase in ice discharge in the antarctic peninsula and the thwaites and pine island region of west antarctica...""",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "grace satellite data from nasa--which directly measures changes to mass through gravity fields--shows that greenland and antarctica are losing a net 280 and 125 billion metric tons of ice annually, respectively.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice climate change causes antarctica to gain land ice https://web.archive.org/web/20160202143148/http://www.wired.com/2015/11/antarcticas-ice-gains-dont-mean-global-warming-is-over/,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "oh, and antarctic land ice is decreasing.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is gaining more ice than its losing, nasa says",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "on average, antarctica is losing 6x as much ice as it was 40 years ago.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "in this case, there is only one study that found antarctica was gaining ice and all others (including follow up studies by the coauthors of that original study) find it is losing ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the majority of the film, covering issues like himalayan glaciers, greenland and antarctica losing ice, the severity of hurricanes and other weather phenomena, was accurate and represented the science as it stood.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica gains ice because the southern hemisphere is heating up, bringing more moisture to antarctica in the form of snow.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice none of these are obviously ameliorated by a small increase in the sea ice extent surrounding antarctica.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice uci/jpl: antarctica losing six times more ice mass annually now than 40 years ago,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is gaining *sea* ice, but the gains are much, much smaller than the arctic sea ice loss in magnitude.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica has been losing 152,000,000,000 metric tons of ice per year on average since 2002, how the fuck is that normal?",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice i dont know if nasa already substracted the 82 from the 125 or not but it shows either way that antarctica is losing ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "they are in agreement with other research done that parts of antarctica are losing massive amounts of ice, which is abnormal.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "while the interior of east antarctica is gaining land ice, overall antarctica has been losing land ice at an accelerating rate.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice overall antarctica is losing ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice but the fact that the north pole has lost 4x the amount that antarctica as gained puts in perspective the global ice lost we have been experiencing.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa reveals that antarctica is actually gaining more ice than it is losing,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice he was notably present in the 2015 zwally study that confirmed the gain in ice in antarctica.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "there was literally a follow up study done in 2017 on the 2015 antarctic ice sheet gain and losses saying while the east antarctica has seen gain of ice, it is still less than the loss of ice from west antartica.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "whats happening in the south pole is that antarctica is losing land ice and gaining sea ice, despite a warming south ocean.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "100 ft of sea level rise is based on greenland melting, but doesnt account for antarctica, which is losing ice shelves that act like a cork in a bottle, holding glaciers in place.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the world is on net losing its glaciers as well as seeing net melting from greenland and antarctica ,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice then why is antarctica gaining ice if the southern hemisphere is supposed to more than make up for the cooling of the northern hemisphere?,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "given the heat waves, droughts, fires, and severe storms were already seeing at 1.1c, and the number of knock-on effects that were already seeing at lower temperatures than predicted, like the severity of the heat waves, the melting of the artic sea ice, permafrost melt, the thwaites glacier collapsing soon, even losing an ice sheet from east antarctica, you have to be insane to think that 2c is gonna go well.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice """late last week, a study published by nasa scientists in the journal of glaciology made the surprising claim that the gigantic continent of antarctica is actually gaining ice, rather than losing it, to the tune of 82 gigatons (or billion metric tons) per year from 2003 to 2008.""",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice were essentially in agreement with other studies that show an increase in ice discharge in the antarctic peninsula and the thwaites and pine island region of west antarctica,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "exposed ice so far, almost all estimates of global sea level rise by 2100 have assumed that antarctica will gain rather than lose ice, thanks to increased snowfall compensating for any melting at the margins.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa still has their bogus chart up that claims antarctica is losing ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is losing ice at an accelerating rate, every ice shelf in the bellingshausen and amundsen seas are gone.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice and grace satellite data shows that antarctica is losing a net 125 billion metric tons of ice annually.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the study: ""our main disagreement is for east antarctica and the interior of west antarctica – there, we see an ice gain that exceeds the losses in the other areas.” and ""show that the snowfall in east antarctica actually decreased by 11 billion tons per year.""",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice and it is only a small part of antarctica that is losing ice.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "it is true that antarctica is growing, but if you consider ice sheets in the arctic and greenland, we are losing a staggering amount of glacial ice each year.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "i just casually pulled the following from their website: ""the research challenges the conclusions of other studies, including the intergovernmental panel on climate change (ipcc) 2013 report, which says that antarctica is overall losing land ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "if the losses of of the antarctic peninsula and parts of west antarctica continue to increase at the same rate theyve been increasing for the last two decades, those losses will catch up with the long-term gain in east antarctica in 20 or 30 years - i dont think there will be enough snowfall increase to offset these losses",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the surface coverage of antarctica sea ice on the other hand has been relatively stable, despite the global temperatures increasing.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice heres how much ice antarctica is losing--its a lot,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the link you shared is about east antarctica and the claim that it is showing a mass ice gain.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice we have been losing some very prominent sea ice shelves around antarctica.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "for example, zwallys major 2015 paper was picked up by deniers who used it to claim that because eastern antarctica was found by his team to be gaining ice (a claim that is disputed by other researchers and debate ongoing, and healthy) climate change isnt happening/is a lie/the usual litany.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice as a whole antarctica is losing ice mass - and i cannot see how decades of cooling can melt the ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing land ice and getting more sea ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is gaining sea ice but losing land ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice or maybe it has gained ice in the past 25 years: (is antarctica gaining or losing ice nature may have settled the debate),Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice > antarctica is now losing ice twice as much as when the continent was last surveyed.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice [world] - antarctica is losing ice 6 times faster today than in 1980s | nz herald,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "there are new sea lanes opening in the arctic, and antarctica is losing its ice shelves.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "> the getz region of west antarctica is losing ice at an increasing rate; however, the forcing mechanisms remain unclear.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "since 2015, multiple studies have shown that antarctica is losing more ice than its gaining, though the 2015 study remains a favorite of climate change doubters to this day.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "our main disagreement is for east antarctica and the interior of west antarctica there, we see an ice gain that exceeds the losses in the other areas.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice the arctic is losing ice but antarctica is getting more ice.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice greenland and antarctica are losing hundreds of billions of metric tons of ice annually and that rate of loss is increasing over time.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "huge chunks of ice are falling off of antarctica into the surrounding ocean, which adds to the total area covered by ice, even though the actual amount of ice is decreasing.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice scientists reveal greenland and antarctica losing 500 cubic kms of ice annually,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the point that ive been making here is that antarctica is losing ice mass.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "as for antarctica, i already explained that both antarctica and greenland are losing ice mass.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "for instance, grace satellite data--which directly measures changes to the ice sheets mass--shows that antarctica is losing net ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice charting ice sheet contributions to global sea level rise - looks like their contributions have been about the same until the past decade or so when greenland has started losing more ice than antarctica,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctic is gaining ice mass year by year, its just that the arctic is losing more then antarctica is gaining.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "as for the past decade, weve seen antarctica now losing ice mass.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "ice sheets are also decreasing in mass with greenland losing about 36 to 60 cubic miles of ice per year between 2002 and 2006, antarctica lost 36 cubic miles of ice between 2002 and 2005.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is still losing ice along its coastal area because of rising global temps, but the ice inland is getting thicker and more compact, meaning it is a total net gain of ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice i dont see that ice has grown since 2016 and parts of 2017 and 2018 are below the 2016 average and antarctica is also losing ice so i dont see this one prediction as substantiating the claim i was replying to.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice greenland and canada for example have been losing far more ice mass than antarctica can make up for.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is losing 0.0045% of its ice per decade—about 4.5/10,000ths of a percent per year.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "in fact, many ice shelves, especially in west antarctica, are losing ice faster than they can be replenished.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "but the same group that presented those findings (which were in disagreement with results from other researchers) [now reports that the losses have increased, and are about equal to gains",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "as such, we can say that the inland ice sheets of antarctica are gaining in thickness as the accumulation offsets the evaporation/melting.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is actually gaining ice to offset it.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "extraordinary thinning of ice sheets revealed deep inside antarctica - new research shows affected areas are losing ice five times faster than in the 1990s, with more than 100m of thickness gone in some places",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice how antarctica is growing in size and not losing ice but we are still in global warming,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica losing six times more ice mass annually now than 40 years ago.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the vast totten glacier was known to be retreating but the new analysis shows that nearby glaciers in the east antarctica area are also losing ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice pretty sure i just read on reddit that a nasa study found that antarctica is gaining ice overall,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa reveals that antarctica is actually gaining more ice than it is losing,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is gaining sea ice, but it is losing land ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "there is variation between regions within antarctica (figure 2, top panel), with the west antarctic ice sheet and the antarctic peninsula ice sheet losing ice mass, and with an increasing rate.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is gaining more ice than its losing.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice we know now that antarctica is gaining sea ice while losing land ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice a new satellite study of ice shelves in west antarctica has revealed they are steadily losing their grip with adjacent land and could intensify the acceleration of ice loss in the area.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "secondly, antarctica is losing more land ice than it is gaining in sea ice - some of the land ice loss contributes to sea ice gain (land ice breaks off and slides into the ocean, becoming sea ice).",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the gain in ice in antarctica was less than the loss in the arctic.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "that being said, antarctica is still losing land ice due to global warming as can be seen in this graph",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is losing land ice, and antarctic sea ice is growing despite the southern ocean warming up.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "he also noted that over the next couple of decades, ice loss in west antarctica will likely outweigh the snowfall increase in east antarctica, and that sea level rise over past decades must be coming from somewhere else.""",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "you are right, on average it might be shrinking in some areas, but we have other areas of the world with an average of increasing ice, like east antarctica and the interior of west antarctica which added a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice every year between 1992 and 2001.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "if the current trend of reduction of total new ice formation continues, in 20-30 years we wont be able to say that antarctica is gaining ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "but the global temperature has stayed stagnant for over 15 years, and antarctica has been gaining ice",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "warming of the rest of the planet may well actually increase snowfall on antarctica, leading to an actual thickening of the icesheet across large areas of the continent.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice this gain of ice on antarctica is a fraction of what is being lost elsewhere.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice there are a lot of criticisms (a controversial nasa study says antarctica is gaining ice heres why you should stay skeptical) of the zwally study; we can talk about them more if you like.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "west antarctica is the part that seems to be losing ice, but as the majority of the ice there is sea ice as well, it probably wont have much impact.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice one of the huge fears about losing ice in antarctica was that is was a self-reinforcing cycle that got worse as more land mass was exposed.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the arctic, greenland, and antarctica, are not losing their ice mass.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice you also learn that antarctica is gaining not losing ice mass.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "but even if the ice sheet is net gaining right now, it will likely have net loss in a few years since most of the ice antarctica loses is by ablation (mainly calving), which is accelerating.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice i just explained quite clearly and coherently that antarctica is losing ice mass and that this is in fact contributing to sea level rise which by the way is happening.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the nasa report youve linked states the dangers of shrinking ice caps and rising ocean levels: “if the losses of the antarctic peninsula and parts of west antarctica continue to increase at the same rate they’ve been increasing for the last two decades, the losses will catch up with the long-term gain in east antarctica in 20 or 30 years"" and ""if the 0.27 millimeters per year of sea level rise attributed to antarctica in the ipcc report is not really coming from antarctica, there must be some other contribution to sea level rise that is not accounted for.”",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "for east antarctica and the interior of west antarctica - there, we see an ice gain that exceeds the losses in the other areas.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "if anything, some models, like the ones predictable antarctica yearly ice growth and retreat was too conservative as data came in and show that we are losing ice *faster* than what the model predicted.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice greenland and antarctica are losing ice faster than in the 1990s and are both tracking the intergovernmental panel on climate change’s worst-case climate warming scenario.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice satellites reveal clearest picture of ice-melting in antarctica: polar ice sheets losing billions of tonnes of ice every year.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the study said that ice gains in east antarctica were effectively canceling out ice losses in the western region of the continent.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "nasa reports that sea ice in the arctic has been declining at a rate of nine percent per decade for the past 30 years, while antarctica has been losing land ice mass at a rate of more than 100 cubic kilometers per year since 2002.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "study concludes antarctica is gaining ice, rather than losing it",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing over 200 gigatons of ice per year into the ocean.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "sea ice increases in antarctica do not make up for the accelerated arctic sea ice loss of the last decades, a new nasa study finds.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is gaining sea ice but losing land ice at an accelerating rate.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the rate at which antarctica gains ice is steady, while the rate at which it *loses* ice is increasing rapidly.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "al gore said the polar ice caps would be completely ice free by 2014, when in reality antarctica has a net gain of ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice greenland and antarctica have been losing ice mass at a combined average rate of 427 billion metric tons (bmt) per year since 2002.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica has been gaining more ice than losing over the past 20 years.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica isnt losing ice,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "this is the best tl;dr i could make, antarctica and greenland are losing thousands of gigatons of ice thats a lot reduced by 87%.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the antarctic icecap is losing mass from west antarctica or lesser antarctica due to geothermal activity, but greater antarctica appears to be gaining.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "using this insight, the nasa team concluded the culprit behind the net ice gain is east antarctica.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is gaining sea ice but losing land ice at an accelerating rate,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice """nasas grace satellite show that antarctica has been losing more than a hundred cubic kilometers (24 cubic miles) of ice each year since 2002.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "there is positive gain in antarctica, which you were likely referring to, but this is heavily outweighed by the negative ice cap loss elsewhere in the world.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is gaining ice, not losing it.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "by analyzing satellite data, nasa suggests that antarctica gained 112 billion tons of ice on average 1991 to 2001.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice and antarctic land ice is still decreasing,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the last point is particularly important since antarctica has been steadily losing *land* ice due to global warming as can be seen in this graph.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice a controversial nasa study says antarctica is gaining ice heres why you should stay skeptical ,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the study, published in nature, finds that ice loss from antarctica has caused sea levels to rise by 7.6mm from 1992-2017, with two fifths of this increase occurring since 2012.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica was gaining more ice in its interior due to high precipitation than it was losing through ice sheet collapse at the coast.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa reveals that antarctica is actually gaining more ice than it is losing,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "i believe you are seeing them with a filter on, since you disregarded the article when i told you it was evidence antarctica was losing land ice, saying the error bars were too large - at least that is the impression you gave.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice satellites measure antarctica is gaining sea ice but losing land ice at an accelerating rate which has implications for sea level rise.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "it doesnt fix it i dont agree with that, the ice shelves being debunked was done by crowder who himself was debunked for it, antarctica was gaining ice true but greenland was losing it faster",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice climate change causes antarctica to gain land ice ,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica has been gaining ice for 10,000 years - that is the status quo.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "while west antarctica and the antarctic peninsula has been losing ice for a long time, east antarctica has experienced a mix of ice gain and loss, which some has cited as a reason not to worry about global warming.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice we have plenty of evidence which shows the arctic has been losing ice at a rate much higher than this rather small growth in antarctica.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice so antarctica is gaining sea ice.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the other thing is that east antarctica is increasing ice sheet mass, but this is more than compensated by the decrease in west antarctica.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is not losing any ice.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "so, antarctica is losing between 13 and 14 gt of ice per year.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice crowder argued that nasa confirmed a global net gain of ice of 82bn tons and that this is evidence of cooling when in fact this figure was only for (parts of) antarctica and that greenland had lost 269bn tons in the same period.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "intrestingly is that as antarctica is growing to its largest size, the artic is losing ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice 3) antarctica as a whole is losing ice at a rate of hundreds of gigatons per year,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "but the average rate of ice thinning in west antarctica has also increased, and this sector is now losing almost one third (31 per cent) as much ice each year than it did during the five year period (2005-2010) prior to cryosat-2 launch.""",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice a 2015 nasa study found antarctica was not losing ice mass and not currently contributing to sea level rise,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice the study says antarcticas trend from 2003 to 2008 was a net gain of 82 billion tonnes of ice per year .,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "in that very same article they point out that antarctica is losing ice as a whole, but is not yet contributing to the well documented sea level rise and rising temperatures.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice gravity data collected from space using nasas grace satellite show that antarctica has been losing more than a hundred cubic kilometers (24 cubic miles) of ice each year since 2002.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is gaining ice on the whole (warmer often = more precipitation), but losing ice in the places that matter most (huge glaciers are melting out from below due to warmer oceans basically unplugging giant ice dams that had been trapping ice in place).",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "tempertures stopped naturally warming and antarctica stopped naturally losing ice around 4,000 years ago.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "a new study shows that as antarctica gains sea ice, it is simultaneously losing a net 125 cubic kilometres of land ice a year �not quite as much as greenland, which is losing 375 cubic kilometres a year, but still a huge amount.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "our glaciers are receding all over the world, and antarctica is losing ice, and if these trends continue it will mean a global sea-level rise that will affect the highest population densities on the planet forcing mass migrations inland.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice greenland and antarctica are losing 500 cubic kms of ice annually and its getting worse.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "his claims about climate change are mostly wrong, he once claimed that the ice sheets where growing again( he only mentioned antarctica, ignoring greenland entirely even though it was on the same page as the stuff he quoted from nasa.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice increased ice losses from antarctica detected by cryosat-2,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "in fact antarctica is actually gaining ice, according to nasa , at a faster rate than its losing ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice """a new study just published in the journal of glaciology is causing some buzz in climate circles, because it appears to claim that antarctica -- long thought to be losing ice at extremely alarming rates -- is actually gaining ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice climate change causes antarctica to gain land ice,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is gaining sea ice but losing land ice at an accelerating rate,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica losing six times more ice mass annually now than 40 years ago: climate change-induced melting will raise global sea levels for decades to come,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "science says: satellites measure antarctica is gaining sea ice but losing land ice at an accelerating rate, which has implications for sea level rise.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice like how they claimed that west antarctica was melting due to man made global warming while the east was gaining ice faster than the west was losing it and we know there is a super massive magma chamber under west antarctica.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "(2015), antarctica is gaining ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "if indeed antarctica has been gaining mass (its not clear it has yet), then it means that slr is *faster* than originally thought, and that once the ice loss overtake the ice gains, itll be rising faster than anticipated.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing ice faster every year,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica *is* losing ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "thankfully, while there are undeniably parts of antarctica that are losing ice at an accelerated rate, there are also other areas where the loss is marginal and some areas where there had been recorded growth in shelf ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica gaining more ice than losing,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "interestingly, he was on a 2012 paper that concluded that antarctica is losing ice overall.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "i am sure it was a surprise to find ice gain in that location, but that doesnt imply ice gain for antarctica as a whole.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice [science] - antarctica is losing an insane amount of ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "east antarctica’s denman glacier has retreated nearly 3 miles over the past two decades, losing 268 billion tons of ice between 1979 and 2017, according to a new study published in the journal geophysical research letters.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice post found in the news antarctica is gaining more ice than its losing,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica isnt gaining ice everywhere, just enough in a couple of places to recoup the losses in others.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "however, due to climate change and the overabundance of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, antarctica is losing more ice than it’s gaining.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "in the last 15 years, predictions of sea-levels rising has gone from 10-20 centimeters in the next century....to 4 feet in the next century (per the 2014 report) --- 80 of the largest 100 cities in the world are going to be underwater before my generations grandchildren are in their 30s....last summer was the first time the entire country of greenland melted across-the-board....just since 2009, greenland is now losing 2x more ice, and antarctica is losing 3x more",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice using newer data theyve shown that greenland has been losing about 270 gigatons of ice per year and antarctica is losing about 150 gigatons of ice per year.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "and if that is the case, antarctica and greenland are losing ice mass at hundreds of gigatonnes per year.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the amount of ice being sloughed off the massive land-bound ice sheets that blanket antarctica has ratcheted up significantly in the last four decades; the continent is now losing six times more ice than it was in the 1980s.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice greenland and antarctica are losing 500 cubic kms of ice annually.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice saying antarctica is losing ice now is blatant lying.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice greenland and antarctica are together losing ice at over 500 (±107) cubic kilometers every year.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "from what ive read antarctica overall is losing ice, which combined to the dramatic arctic loss means a global loss overall.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "d) even with the complication of competing factors in antarctica, globally the cryosphere is shrinking - were losing much more from greenland/arctic/alpine sources than were gaining from growth of sea ice around antarctica.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice iirc antarctica is gaining ice coverage but still losing volume.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice jeff is certainly among the best that our cause could buy - he is just such a natural misinformer and liar - somehow he managed to write that entire tale without once mentioning how antarctica is in fact overall losing ice mass (even if the extent of the sea ice is varying due to short-term seasonal variability).,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is losing billions of tons of ice each year, sharply boosting sea levels",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "scientists reveal greenland and antarctica losing 500 cubic kms of ice annually, reports climate news network",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa researcher: antarctica still gaining ice,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "zwally said that while other scientists have assumed that the gains in elevation seen in east antarctica are due to recent increases in snow accumulation, his team used meteorological data beginning in 1979 to show that the snowfall in east antarctica actually decreased by 11 billion tons per year during both the ers and icesat periods.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice would that explain why antarctica is gaining ice and not losing it?,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice this is another study that includes nasa scientists **including** the scientist who published the study that found net ice gain in antarctica.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "there are of course uncertainties in the estimation methods but independent data from multiple measurement techniques (explained here) all show the same thing, antarctica is losing land ice as a whole, and these losses are accelerating quickly.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the loss of the larsen b ice shelf wasnt very adverse to the environment, but losing it is a major red flag and warning sign for the eventual fate of the larger ice shelves that hug the coast of antarctica.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice its clear that if you combine both land and sea ice that antarctica is in fact losing ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice measurements of antarctic ice made by the european space agency cryosat satellite show that its losing about 150 cubic kilometers (36 cubic miles) of ice on average every year just from the west antarctica ice sheet alone.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice glaciers in the amundsen sea of west antarctica are losing ice faster than anywhere else on the continent and are the largest contributors to the rise of sea levels.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "if antarctica melts, seas will rise a gigantic 190 feet; it has started losing ice rapidly",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is currently losing 150 billion metric tons of ice per year as a whole.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice there is a nasa study from sept antarctic ice sheet mass gains greater than losses which doesnt contradict the melting,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "in fact, nasa just confirmed we are losing ice in antarctica at a faster rate every year.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is gaining ice,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "this has been known for a while- antarctica is gaining some ice (sea ice only, no land ice)...",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice thank you for sharing your thoughts i would like to mention that i have seen many articles that say that antarctica is actually gaining more ice than it is losing.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice as a whole antarctica is losing ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing ice mass at a staggering rate.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "since 1992, the thinning has spread across 24% of west antarctica and over the majority of its largest ice streams - the pine island and thwaites glaciers - which are now losing ice five times faster than they were at the start of the survey.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice zwally estimates ice gain of eastern antarctica at between 50 and 100 gigatons.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is actually expanding and only the arctic is losing ice.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "losing land ice means sea levels will rise, and if we lose a lot of ice in greenland and antarctica� which we are very much on track for doing� sea levels could rise several meters.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "also, because it is always below freezing all year in almost all of antarctica, the snow should pile up and logically it should gain mass because the ice calves out very slowly compared to the snowfall.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "west antarctica is losing ice, its more maritime and thus more affected by the warming seas.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "for example, i saw suggestions that there was increased sea ice in some parts of antarctica and therefore no global warming.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "but all the evidence points to the conclusion that antarctica is still losing hundreds of billions of tons of ice per year, will lose more every year, and it’s joined (and even outpaced) by greenland.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "according to a new report, greenland and antarctica are losing ice six times faster than in the 1990s – currently on track with the intergovernmental panel on climate change’s worst-case climate warming scenario.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "east antarctica is gaining ice faster than west antarctica is losing ice, so there is net gain on the continent.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice clearly antarctica is losing ice at the wais and is contributing to a substantial rise in sea level.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice " most have found that east antarctica is **gaining** ice, due to increased precipitation.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice the average rate of ice loss from antarctica likely increased ,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "researchers are also growing increasingly concerned about antarctica, where ice shelves are melting and wilder winds are altering crucial currents.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "polar bear populations are still increasing, antarctica still has a net gain of ice, and tuscon got record levels of snow this year.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica so-called doomsday glacier is losing ice at its fastest rate in 5,500 years, raising concerns about the ice sheet future and the possibility of catastrophic sea level rise caused by the frozen continents melting ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "ozone layer depletion has increased snowfall over antarctica in recent decades, partially mitigating the ongoing loss of the continents ice sheet mass, new university of colorado boulder research finds.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "‘extraordinary thinning’ of ice sheets revealed deep inside antarctica | new research shows affected areas are losing ice five times faster than in the 1990s, with more than 100m of thickness gone in some places",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "if you combine the data you linked regarding antarctica with the arctic data, it turns out that in the net, earth is losing both sea-ice and land-ice globally despite gains in some regions (e.g.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "look at the north pole, we dont see the same increase of record level sea ice that we do in antarctica, why is it so different?",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "our main disagreement is for east antarctica and the interior of west antarctica - there, we see an ice gain that exceeds the losses in the other areas.""",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice his study is the only one i know of that has concluded that antarctica is gaining ice mass.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is not losing ice sheet after all, nasa finds",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice [politics] - antarctica is losing ice 6 times faster today than in 1980s,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice he thinks its the knife in the back of global warming while in reality the ice loss in the arctic is a lot more then the sea ice gain in antarctica.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the getz region of west antarctica is losing ice at an increasing rate; however, the forcing mechanisms remain unclear.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing land ice just as dramatically as the arctic.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is gaining more ice than its losing, but its still in trouble",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "so your great source (which, lets face it, nasa has credibility) says ice loss is increasing exponentially, and even the gains in east antarctica, which has been gaining steadily for thousands of years, ice are well down in the recent past.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "now, some will claim that antarctica is gaining sea ice, and that is true (nevermind its losing land ice).",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice gains in ice mass have increased so much over the past 2 decades in antarctica that antarcticas contribution to sea level rise is negative .23 mm.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice the source i am quoting is the results of the peer reviewed study showing that the ice mass of antarctica is increasing.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa has already stated that the arctic is losing ice faster then antarctica is gaining it.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is melting way faster than anyone expected - the continent is losing ice almost three times as fast since 2007, and its definitely not a good sign.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing 92 billion tons (100 cubic km) annually or about 3x as much as sea ice is gaining.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing glacial ice,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice they have published some studies that go against the preferred narrative like the one about antarcticas ice and also one about the earth greening from co2.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice there have been some mass gains on the antarctica ice sheet.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice > further evidence that antarctica is gaining ice mass can be gained from the fact that antarctic sea ice is gaining in both volume and extent.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "but as you can see from the study i linked you to, most measurements (even though they have large uncertainties due to the aforementioned difficulties) agree that antarctica has been losing ice since 1995, and at an accelerating pace.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa reveals that antarctica is actually gaining more ice than it is losing,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "yeah, our national daily newspaper also referred to the article with the headline ""myth busted: antarctica isnt losing ice"".",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice " things get especially confusing when you see reports from nasa that antarctica is gaining ice, not losing it.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice a 2015 nasa study found antarctica was not losing ice mass and not currently contributing to sea level rise. so what?,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice response to: nasa reveals that antarctica is actually gaining more ice than it is losing,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice despite this scientific consensus shows that the losses of ice in west antarctica outweigh the minor gains due to snowfall in east antarctica.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice tl;dr: west antarctica is losing a crap-ton of ice every year.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the east antarctic ice sheet, once thought to be stable, is losing 57 billion tons of ice a year to global warming, raising fears that global sea levels will rise faster than previously predicted as antarctica “may start to lose more ice than greenland within a few years,""",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "however, antarctica has been gaining sea ice, which may seem puzzling.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice grace satellite data--which directly measures changes to the ice sheets mass through its gravity field-- shows that antarctica is losing hundreds of billions of metric tons annually.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica losing land ice, the ice loss is accelerating at a rate of 26 gigatonnes/yr2 (in other words, every year, the rate of ice loss is increasing by **26 gigatonnes per year**) ",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica gaining ice over the course of april-september is not uncommon, in fact, its the norm.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica losing ice even faster than before,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "its a study using old data (the most recent data was for 2008), which determines ice from altimetry (an imperfect method, to say the least), and what it found was that the accumulation of ice in the central parts of antarctica remained relatively unchanged, while losses from the coastal regions increased, but was not sufficient to produce a net loss over that period.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa has already stated that the arctic is losing ice faster then antarctica is gaining it.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "i think this is why they changed the term to ""climate change"" rather than ""global warming"" (study concludes antarctica is gaining ice rather than losing it)",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is losing ice mass, ",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice only the *sea ice* around antarctica has been growing in area but even that trend is tiny,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice mass gains of antarctica sheet greater than losses,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the west antarctica ice sheet is still losing mass, even with this increased snow accumulation.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "first of all, you should take a closer look at antarctic ice mass - its a very complex system to explain, but long story short, were losing the ""land ice"" that helps regulate energy balance and gaining a lot of ""sea ice"" in exchange, which melts every summer and causes sea levels to rise.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica has gained ice mass but most of the worlds glaciers have receded and the north pole has lost almost all ""old"" ice, there is almost only the ""young"" ice that refreezes every year, meaning the overall arctic is losing ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice most satellite altimetry studies and mass balance approaches also show antarctica losing overall ice mass.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the ozone layer is healing, antarctica is gaining ice, etc..",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "yep, antarctica is gaining ice while the arctic is losing it - because soot from china melts ice faster than global warming.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "using data taken by the grace satellites (which measure how mass underneath them changes over time), we know that overall, antarctica is currently losing more than 130 billion tons of ice per year, and again, that number is increasing every year.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the latest data reveals that antarctica is losing ice at an accelerating rate, too.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "i was merely commenting that the original poster was incorrect and that antarctica has experienced net gain of ice both recently, and progressively across the last 60 years (since weve been accurately measuring).",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice turns out the ice in antarctica started decreasing from about 2013 onward.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "overall, we are losing ice in antarctica.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice i cant say if this is willful ignorance (but from the guy who believes on last deglaciation sea levels raised 400m in 2 centuries it could be just plain stupidity) since in the meantime all the published papers on that subject agree that antarctica is losing ice and most recent papers all agree that the ice loss is now accelerating - 2-sigma significant for west antarctica and 1-sigma for the entire antarctica,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice scientists thought that antarctica was losing ice however it didnt turn out to be true.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is losing 200 gigatonnes of ice every year, thats 400,000,000,000,000 pounds worth of ice (400 trillion).",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa has stated the antarctica has seen a net gain in ice in the past 15 years.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice the arctic is at the north pole and weve known for years that it is losing ice faster than antarctica.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "a few years back, scientists figured antarctica as a whole was in balance, neither gaining nor losing ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice " i was merely commenting that the original poster was incorrect and that antarctica has experienced net gain of ice both recently, and progressively across the last 60 years (since weve been accurately measuring).",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "a new study titled ""mass gains of the antarctic ice sheet exceed losses"" and published in the journal of glaciology� overturns previous assessments (including that relayed in the latest ipcc report) that antarctica is losing land ice and thus contributing to sea level rise.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice also as i understand it the ice gain for antarctica is mostly sea ice so that wont help the sea level rise either.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "yes, areal extent has changed, and even increased in recent years, but the volume of ice in antarctica is declining.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice it was a cherrypicked paper that alt-right had jumped on that said (iirc) the east antarctic ice sheet is gaining ice - not mentioning of course that the rest of antarctica and greenland is rapidly losing way more ice so net ice is still melting.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "indeed, the authors noted, their results would suggest that, barring precipitation increases, their data suggests antarctica would be losing ice in another couple decades.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "losing ice greenland, antarctica melting six times faster than in the 1990s greenland antarctica melting six times faster than in the 1990s",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice this article: climate change is getting worse so why is antarcticas ice sheet expanding provides even more background for the antarctica sea ice increase.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "i recently read parts of the ipccs ar5 (published in 2014) and was slightly comforted that though the arctic was losing ice, antarctica was gaining ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "actually al gore said antarctica was melting, not gaining ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice it’s the same reason why antarctica is gaining sea ice while losing permafrost.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice in their data set shows a total **increase in ice mass** on the continent of antarctica.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "this is regarding antarctica, who’s minimal net gain in ice per year (the rate of gain is slowing, also) still doesn’t com close to offsetting the ice losses in greenland, the arctic glaciers and worldwide permafrost melt.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa reveals that antarctica is actually gaining more ice than it is losing,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice data from nasas grace and grace follow-on satellites show that the land ice sheets in both antarctica (upper chart) and greenland (lower chart) have been losing mass since 2002.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "from the abstract of ""recent sea-level contributions of the antarctic and greenland ice sheets"": ""although the balance between these opposing processes has varied considerably on a regional scale, data show that antarctica and greenland are each losing mass overall.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is continually losing land ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice i would be surprised if antarctica wasnt losing ice over the years.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice what’s your thoughts on antarctica net ice gain that periodically occurs,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "our main disagreement is for east antarctica and the interior of west antarctica � there, we see an ice gain that exceeds the losses in the other areas",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice that the antarctica continent is losing ice at a dramatic rate.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice """in contrast, the overall loss of ice in antarctica has remained fairly constant, with the data suggesting a 50-percent increase in antarctic ice loss during the last decade.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "sure, its on my list of things that i chastise them about all the time, including arctic recovery, whether antarctica is losing ice overall, whether co2 is a greenhouse gas, etc....",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "then why did you say ""antarctica isnt losing ice mass after all !""",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "on a net basis, antarctica is losing land ice, but increasing sea ice due to a number of effects.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice theres also newer research by nasa researchers that claims an increased ice loss between 2008 and 2015 for west antarctica ,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "it is also true that antarctica is gaining land ice, and you dont hear stories about that either.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "you see, antarctica still losing ice despite big rise in snowfall",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice most climate change models actually have antarctica land ice remaining stable or even increasing slightly,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "futhermore, antarctica is losing land ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "actually, we dont know why, but antarctica is getting more ice rather than losing it.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing ice mass.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing ice 6 times faster today than it was in the 1980s,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice i later found out that its misleading to focus on antarctic sea ice because antarctica is losing far more land ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice climate change causes antarctica to gain land ice ,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "almost immediately a re-evaluation of the errors was done and it was determined that grace products has massive error ranges and if you wanted to state that antarctica was losing ice...well you just chose your parameters, and viola!",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "what you personally observe is not a replacement for statistics, it is a logical fallacy to take things at a local level without the big picture (like hoe antarctica is getting net gain per year of ice, but because of greenlands losses of ice the world as a whole is experienced a net loss)",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice """the threefold increase in ice loss from the continent as a whole is a combination of glacier speedup in west antarctica and at the antarctic peninsula, and reduced growth of the ice sheet in east antarctica.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice > we present four decades of mass balance in antarctica that reveal a mass loss during the entire period and a rapid increase over the last two decades in parts of antarctica closest to known or suspected sources of cdw from observations of high ice-shelf melt rates ,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice crowder argued that nasa confirmed a global net gain of ice of 82bn tons and that this is evidence of cooling when in fact this figure was only for antarctica and that greenland had lost 269bn tons in the same period).,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "on antarctica (tldr): parts of it are gaining ice, but most of it is melting.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice satellites measure antarctica is gaining sea ice but losing land ice at an accelerating rate which has implications for sea level rise.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "according to this article ""ice sheets in greenland and western antarctica, spanning thousands of miles, are losing 500 cubic kilometers (about 120 cubic miles) of ice per year"".",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice also antarctica has a lot of other reasons it could gain some ice.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "in a landmark study published thursday in the journal science, 47 researchers from 26 laboratories report the combined rate of melting for the ice sheets covering greenland and antarctica has increased during the last 20 years.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "also, not surprisingly, not all antarctica is equal with respect to ice gains/losses, so an overall gain is not all the information anymore than saying the us saw an increase in rainfall this year tells you anything about droughts in california.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice new nasa study: antarctica isnt losing ice mass after all,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is actually gaining ice.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing all its ice,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the data shows most areas of the ice sheet are stable to increasing in ice mass, including the east antarctic ice sheet, which alone contains over 80% of the total ice mass of antarctica.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "east antarctica was gaining for a while, until 2015ish, but net-net west was losing was more and the antarctic ice sheets have been declining precipitously since the late 80s.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice upcoming research will buck the consensus and show antarctica is still gaining ice,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "glaciers in greenland and antarctica are losing ice at alarming rates, and warmer air isnt the only cause.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "i acknowledged the arctic ice is shrinking, but i also said the ice in antarctica is growing faster than were losing in the arctic.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice ">the total rate of antarctica melting increased by 6 gigatons per year per year during the 11-year period examined, with the west losing ice while the east gained.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "skeptic arguments that antarctica is gaining ice frequently hinge on an error of omission, namely ignoring the difference between land ice and sea ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice data from nasas grace satellites show that the land ice sheets in both antarctica (upper chart) and greenland (lower) have been losing mass since 2002,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the article also notes that some areas of antarctica are losing more ice than they are gaining.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice >would you like to correct that impression by admitting that antarctica is indeed losing land ice according to the grace data?,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica and greenland have been losing an average of 134 and 287 billion metric tons of land ice per year [oc],Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "noaa also says that man-made climate change is real, and they agree with me that antarctica is losing land ice, and that the growing sea ice isnt evidence global warming isnt happening:",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "it clearly says that the melting of antarctica is increasing, whereas the increase of ice on the cap itself is a phenomenon which dates back 10 000 years:",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice clearly antarctica is losing ice at the wais and is contributing to a substantial rise in sea level.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "for example, steven crowder did this in one of his climate change videos, wherein he cites that antarctica gaining ice means that glacier melting is false.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is gaining ice.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice ^(i think the thermal run-off has already started now that antarctica and other permafrost regions are losing their ice.),Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "as the article says, between 1992 and 2001, antarctica had a net gain of 112 billion tons of ice per year.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice greenland is losing its ice and so is antarctica.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "eastern antarctica is not, but western antarctica is losing ice really fast",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing 25% more ice now than in the 1970s.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is losing overall ice volume, about 30 cubic miles per year.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice for net ice gain just look at satellite images of antarctica and compare it to previous years.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "that is the imprecision, and the fact is that even at 12 gt/yr it still means antarctica is losing land ice, and at an accelerated pace.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "nasa also remembers that measuring the ice sheets is pretty hard and they have since that article come to the conclusion that while antarctica has gained some mass, its still losing more.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "by the way, i never said anything about ignoring the slight increase in sea-ice extent that antarctica is exhibiting.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "we expect snowfall will continue to increase into the 21st century and beyond, but our results show that future increases in snowfall cannot keep pace with oceanic-driven ice losses in antarctica",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "after 25 years, the pattern of glacier thinning has spread across 24% of west antarctica, and its largest ice streams - the pine island and thwaites glaciers - are now losing ice five times faster than they were in the 1990s.""",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "anyway, the majority of the film, covering issues like himalayan glaciers, greenland and antarctica losing ice, the severity of hurricanes and other weather phenomena, was accurate and represented the science as it stood.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa study shows antarctica is losing six times more ice every year than in 1979,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the findings dispel the idea that east antarctica has been gaining enough ice from snowfall to cancel out losses in west antarctica, oppenheimer said, adding that at least in this era, east antarctica just isnt in the ball game when it comes to counterbalancing west antarctica.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice a recent report states that antarctica is gaining ice.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice then i came across this summary of a newer study from a few days ago which again supports the original doomsday hypothesis (the end of global ice in antarctica is imminent and could raise sea levels) of 1-3m and within the next 10 years.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "so the article isnt stating that the world is not warming up, it is saying that antarctica isnt actually losing ice yet, but it will start to lose ice if the rate of ice loss stays the same.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "over this period, ocean-driven melting has caused rates of ice loss from west antarctica to increase from 53 ± 29 billion to 159 ± 26 billion tonnes per year; ice-shelf collapse has increased the rate of ice loss from the antarctic peninsula from 7 ± 13 billion to 33 ± 16 billion tonnes per year.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "again, this is just greenland and antarctica, overall were still losing ice, and the expansion of the sea due to increased water temperatures also caused flood risk.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing ice,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing insane amount of ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "its also worth noting that this only covers ice coverage (area), not ice mass (volume), so we could be losing ice in antarctica at every depth but the surface.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "during the cooler periods, antarctica will gain ice sheet.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing ice mass,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing ice twice as fast as anyone thought,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "it is gaining snow fall/ice due the oceans being warmer and having more moisture in the air, this air generally flows over antarctic, cools, and drops it off, so as of now antarctica is actually gaining ice, but, it is increasing how much is melted each year, this will balance out in 10-15 years, and then the extra snowfall wont help, it will be melting faster than it is gaining.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice [world] - antarctica is losing ice 6 times faster today than in 1980s | manila bulletin,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "so antarctica is losing ice, just slower than people tend to think.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice why are greenland and antarctica losing billions of tons of ice?,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "earths great ice sheets, greenland and antarctica, are now losing mass six times faster than they were in the 1990s thanks to warming conditions.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "this type of iceberg calving is pretty normal, this isnt an ice sheet in antarctica losing too fast, its a moving glacier entering the ocean.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice """sea ice increases in antarctica do not make up for the accelerated arctic sea ice loss of the last decades, a new nasa study finds.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica: continent is gaining more ice than it is losing, nasa says",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "a new study titled ""mass gains of the antarctic ice sheet exceed losses"" and published in the journal of glaciology overturns previous assessments (including that relayed in the latest ipcc report) that antarctica is losing land ice and thus contributing to sea level rise.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is gaining sea ice, but losing land ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "no, overall antarctica is *losing* ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the ice sheets over antarctica are losing mass at an accelerating rate.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice new nasa study: antarctica isnt losing ice mass after all !,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "furthermore, nasa released an article about antarctica gaining more ice than losing it.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice original post: [nasa reveals that antarctica is actually gaining more ice than it is losing,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "however, antarctica has been gaining *sea ice*, which may seem puzzling.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "also keep in mind that antarctica has been gaining ice for thousands of years, and the rate of ice gain is decreasing, it just hasnt reached zero yet",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "some leading scientists vocally disagree with the study, which also runs contrary to the prevailing view of experts that antarctica has been losing ice mass over the past few decades.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing ice at a greater rate than expected since the first ice age in earths life time.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice both arctic and antarctica are gaining ice.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa researcher: antarctica still gaining ice,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice greenland is losing ice year on year and it is losing it faster than antarctica is gaining.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "that means antarctica is actually gaining ice, not losing it.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice contrary to your assertion antarctica and greenland are losing a net 280 gt and 125 gt respectively.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is gaining ice because it is becoming thicker, while losing ice around its edges.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "according to your article, antarctica is gaining ice to the tune of 82 billion tons per year.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the research challenges the conclusions of other studies, including the intergovernmental panel on climate changes (ipcc) 2013 report, which says that antarctica is overall losing land ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is gaining ice mass on a nett basis from high snowfall, despite the huge losses from the west antarctic shelf.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is losing ice around its edges, but gaining ice in terms of thickness.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice i thought mean antarctica ice was increasing.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "in regards to antarctica, only the coastal areas and the antarctic peninsula are currently losing ice (likely due to warming oceans).",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "this report demolishes that argument, antarctica is losing ice too.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice greenland losing more ice than antarctica gained ,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "with antarctica gaining rapidly in ice shelf, there have even been scapegoating of the australian outback acting as a sponge causing a 22 month ocean level decline from 2010-2012, etc.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice you have already stated that antarctica in general is losing ice but nasa says otherwise.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is now losing about 160 billion tonnes of ice a year to the ocean - twice as much as when the continent was last surveyed, says scientists.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "ipcc says antarctica is losing land ice, nasa says it is gaining land ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "glacial melting in antarctica may become irreversible | researchers found a precise estimate of how much ice the glacier would shed in the next 50 to 800 years was not possible due to unpredictable climate fluctuations - however, 500 simulations of different scenarios pointed to it losing stability",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "in the end, the ice gain on eastern antarctica still lowers sea levels, just not as much as previously speculated.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the loss of ice in the arctic is still greater than the gain of ice in antarctica.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "1) at the end of the day 2 out of 3 major iceberg areas are losing ice yearly (antarctica is gaining ice), this is a fact.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice """a glaciologist not involved in the paper tells carbon brief that the findings show “there now should be no doubt that antarctica is losing ice due to regional climate change, likely linked to global warming”.""",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice """our main disagreement is for east antarctica and the interior of west antarctica - there, we see an ice gain that exceeds the losses in the other areas.""",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is losing about 92 billion tons [4] (100 km³) of land ice annually, or more than 3 times as much sea ice as it is gaining.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "there are isolated areas of antarctica that are gaining ice, but overall, it has been losing it at an accelerating rate.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "a warming world leads to more melting and this has been observed on antarctica (antarctica ice melting six times greater study finds), but it also results in increased water vapor in the air, which can cause increased snowfall.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice while the trend for antarctica has been rather flat the artic is losing ice very rapidly ,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is one of the only places gaining ice.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "actually, most studies suggest there is a net loss of land ice in antarctica.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice and antarctica gaining sea ice does not balance that out either.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "‘extraordinary thinning’ of ice sheets revealed deep inside antarctica — new analysis of satellite data shows affected areas are losing ice 5 times faster than in the 1990s, with more than 100m of thickness gone in some places — ice losses rapidly spreading deep into the interior of the antarctic ",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "read the top of the article that explains that even though theres more ice in antarctica, it behaves very differently from arctic ice, and that the loss of arctic ice exceeds the gain of antarctic ice",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica ice stable not losing ice nasa researcher finds,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "and crowders data is also widely contested with regards to its methodology and whether or not antarctica is gaining or losing ice, with most studies finding that it has lost ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice article: cryosat finds sharp increase in antarcticas ice losses,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica appears to be losing ice mass.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "“if the losses of the antarctic peninsula and parts of west antarctica continue to increase at the same rate they’ve been increasing for the last two decades, the losses will catch up with the long-term gain in east antarctica in 20 or 30 years -- i don’t think there will be enough snowfall increase to offset these losses.” (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/nasa-study-mass-gains-of-antarctic-ice-sheet-greater-than-losses)",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica and greenland are losing thousands of gigatons of ice — thats a lot,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice there has been an ice gain on greenland and antarctica.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "in this part of antarctica, the ice sheet is actually growing as a consequence of increased snowfall.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "over this period, ocean-driven melting has caused rates of ice loss from west antarctica to increase from 53 ± 29 billion to 159 ± 26 billion tonnes per year; ice-shelf collapse has increased the rate of ice loss from the antarctic peninsula from 7 ± 13 billion to 33 ± 16 billion tonnes per year.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "a new study examining nearly 40 years of satellite imagery has revealed that the floating ice shelves of a critical portion of west antarctica are steadily losing their grip on adjacent bay walls, potentially amplifying an already accelerating loss of ice to the sea.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is clearly losing ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice except that greenland and antarctica are losing ice so quickly that ice shelves the size of connecticut are calving.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice increased ice losses from antarctica detected by cryosat-2,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "yes, the ice burg lettuce is losing its natural habitat, and if we are not careful, we can lose the species all together, except for rare places such as antarctica",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "perhaps well see more studies agree that antarctica is gaining ice, perhaps we wont.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice satellites measure antarctica is gaining sea ice but losing land ice at an accelerating rate which has implications for sea level rise.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is gaining sea ice extents, but its net-losing its land ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "for a specific example, steven crowder used a nasa study as evidence against climate change, that the ice sheets were gaining mass in antarctica, despite the fact that the study didnt take greenland into account, which a global record shows were losing ice sheet mass, and the study specifically states this, something crowder fails to mention.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "so one area of antarctica is seeing ice loss, another is seeing a gain, but there was still a sea level rise even though antarctica is sequestering the 0.23mm per year.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the study says antarctica is gaining ice, not losing it, and thats exactly how climate skeptics have portrayed it.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica losing all its ice is not even optimal to be honest.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the net effect of ice gain (snow falling on eastern antarctica) and discharge (ice pushed away by the weight of that snow) is a negative.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the current science seems to indicate its pretty clear antarctica is overall losing ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "apart from antarctica, every other place in the world is losing ice too.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "a new study examining nearly 40 years of satellite imagery has revealed that the floating ice shelves of a critical portion of west antarctica are steadily losing their grip on adjacent bay walls, potentially amplifying an already accelerating loss of ice to the sea",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing ice sheet,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica colder arctic its still losing ice,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice gravity probe unexpectedly shows east antarctica is losing ice,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica has been steadily gaining ice,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice in fact antarctica has increased its ice coverage in the last few decades and if global warming was real then that wouldnt be happening.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa has apparently conceded that antarctica is gaining ice mass rather than losing it to the ocean as so many warmists have tried to claim.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice it says overall that antarctica is gaining ice and taking away water from the oceans.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the same group that presented those 2015 findings which were in disagreement with results from other researchers has since reported that the losses have increased, and are about equal to gains",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "id rather read about facts that can be measured, like greenlands ice growth in 2017 or the fact that antarctica isnt losing land ice either.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "of course, the sea ice is increasing because the salinity is dropping because of all the very important land ice that antarctica is losing and global ice loss is increasing.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "greenland has been losing ice mass even faster than antarctica in the last few decades, so any major acceleration in ice loss will lead to a significant acceleration in sea level rise",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing land ice at an accelerating rate.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice " the continent busting thing seems like exaggeration, and the drawing didnt really support it as well as it never being mentioned again in the series whether something as major as antarctica being destroyed happened or not.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "[while the interior of east antarctica is gaining land ice, overall antarctica is losing land ice at an accelerating rate.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "also, in climate change study, it is well known by now that antarctica is gaining ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "sure, some glaciers are growing but the majority are losing a lot of ice and the same applies for the ice sheets in antarctica.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "ice loss from greenland and west antarctica: as with glaciers and the ice caps, increased heat is causing the massive ice sheets that cover greenland and antarctica to melt at an accelerated pace.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "if youre interested in further exploring the topic, experts dispute nasa antarctic ice gain study",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica and greenland are losing thousands of gigatons of ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice it found antarctica as a whole went from losing about 40 gigatons of ice per year in the 1980s to 252 gigatons per year over the last decade.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "with the exception of the one altimetry study you cited every other study using a variety of techniques shows the antarctica ice sheet losing net mass, including grace satellites which directly measure changes to ice mass as compared to the altimetry study you cited which has to basically guess at the density of the ice and snow.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is now net losing ice at a rapid pace, as well as greenland.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the latest survey indicates that antarctica has been gaining ice for 10,000 years.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice im aware of this nasa study that antarctica is gaining land ice -- and we have some ideas of why thats happening and how it is consistent with global warming,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "greenlands loss of ice coverage is way bigger than antarcticas gain, meaning the ice sheets all in all are shrinking) ",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice overall net gain of ice due to growth in antarctica.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "i can lose my car keys, antarctica isnt losing ice -- its melting, and we know why this happens and where it goes.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice the current ice gain in antarctica is from snow falling on the surface of the ice sheet.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice where greenlands melting ice near the coast is offsetting this that does not appear to offset all the ice gain in antarctica.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "so no matter how you slice it, antarctica is losing ice, and losing it fast.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "previous studies (""antarctica is losing ice!"")",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice it has been on a constant downward trend and the ice gain in antarctica completely nullify the ice loss in arctic for a net zero sum change,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "furthermore, antarctica is gaining sea ice extent, but not necessarily sea ice volume.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "crowder made a series of videos about this specific ice sheet, thats why so many dumbasses online say that antarctica is gaining ice",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "[tech] study concludes antarctica is gaining ice, rather than losing it",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice it is one part of one study that says ice increase in eastern antarctica this last year.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "* rates of ice loss are still increasing in other parts of antarctica: ""if the losses of the antarctic peninsula and parts of west antarctica continue to increase at the same rate they’ve been increasing for the last two decades, the losses will catch up with the long-term gain in east antarctica in 20 or 30 years -- i don’t think there will be enough snowfall increase to offset these losses.""",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice """antarctic ice shelves overall are seeing accelerated thinning, and the ice sheet is losing mass in key sectors of antarctica,"" she said.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is growing, it’s the arctic that is losing ice",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice what science says: satellites measure antarctica is gaining sea ice but losing land ice at an accelerating rate which has implications for sea level rise.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice would you like to correct that impression by admitting that antarctica is *indeed* losing land ice according to the grace data?,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "*that* is the imprecision, and the fact is that even at 12 gt/yr it *still* means antarctica is losing land ice, and at an accelerated pace.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica and greenland are losing thousands of gigatons of ice — thats a lot | lost enough ice in the last 16 years to fill lake michigan,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice those numbers suggest that the eastern antarctic ice gain will not be large enough to counteract the water that will probably be pouring into the ocean in coming centuries from the ice melting in greenland and western antarctica.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is *still* losing ice overall, but the site was *updated* to distinguish between east and west antarctica.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice so if antarctica is gaining ice were losing it even faster in other places.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice here is an article from forbes ice gains in some parts of antarctica arent offsetting its losses,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "its only expanding around antarctica, were losing over 200 billion tonnes of ice around greenland a year, putting us at about a net loss of 150 billion tonnes of ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "local areas of antarctica may gain ice, but it is the net change thats important- and on the net, antarcticas land ice is decreasing.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "whats not obvious to many people and apparently some of the researchers is that antarctica can gain ice mass and increase melt discharge simultaneously, and so still be raising sea levels.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the research was there to challenge the findings of ipcc 2013 report saying that western side of antarctica is losing ice thickness.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing ice at a staggering rate.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the world is fucked if you want to put it simply, w/ methane being the leading cause of pollution due to antartica melt off + methane pockets underneath antarctica not being absorbed by [microorganisms]",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "to be clear, antarctica **is** losing ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica has been accumulating ice rather than continually losing ice, which wasnt projected by ""science"".",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "upcoming study led by nasa scientist suggests antarctica is gaining, not losing ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "3) east antarctica indeed appears to be gaining land ice, but is dwarfed by the amount of land ice lost from western antarctica, the arctic, and glaciers worldwide.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing land ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa reveals that antarctica is actually gaining more ice than it is losing,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice grace satellite data shows that antarctica and greenland are losing hundreds of billions of metric tons of ice annually and that the rate of loss is accelerating.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "even if you look up his immediate claim that ""nasa recently proved that antarctica is net gaining ice"", you see that the study showed that the gain is decelerating and in 20-30 years it will be negative.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "in fact, as of 2015, antarctica has been *gaining* ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "> in 2015, scientists found that antarctica was gaining ice, not losing it.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "this means the ocean around antarctica is gaining sea ice, because the melting land ice is making the ocean less salty.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice icecap melting (total icepack is increasing due to the huge gains in antarctica),Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice """antarctica is losing ice 6 times...""",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the ipcc increased its projected end-of-century sea level rise in the worst-case scenario by nearly 4 inches (10 centimeters) from its 2013 projections because of the increased recent melting of ice sheets in greenland and antarctica.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice in other words antarctica and greenland are losing ice mass.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the latest report (""antarctica is gaining ice!"")",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "its likely going to be called **gigaton**, which is the word for the amount of ice that antarctica is losing",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "probably too late to do anything about the ice in antarctica melting and completely collapsing/crippling the oceans ecosystem as well as a laundry list of problems that go along with that, including losing a lot of land mass to the ocean.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice but if you want to go down that track lets not talk about total sea ice gains in antarctica,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica: the interior of east antarctica is gaining land ice (not west), overall antarctica has been losing land ice at an accelerating rate.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "also, antarctica is losing land ice, which sort of explains why its gaining sea ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice """i dont know if nasa already substracted the 82 from the 125 or not but it shows either way that antarctica is losing ice.""",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the claims that antarctica is melting is sensationalist because it is a half-truth - it fails to mention the fact that it is summer in the southern hemisphere and it will of course melt, however, the rate of melting is less than previous decades due to an increase in ice mass gain which helps insulate deeper keeping it thicker longer.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice 2017 study that found east antarctica is gaining 3x less ice than the study you linked proposed,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice here is a link to claims that climate models prove that antarctica is not losing ice and sea level isnt changing,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "[while the interior of east antarctica is gaining land ice, overall antarctica has been losing land ice at an accelerating rate.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "there is data that shows antarctica still has a positive net gain in ice, however it has slowed in recent years from ~100 billion tons of ice to ~80-90 billion tons of ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice that fact you think antarctica is gaining ice mass is indicative of the horrible bias of the news you consume.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "my point was though that no one important is denying antarctica is gaining ice, even david attenboroughs new netflix special talks about that.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing land ice specifically the western versus eastern ice shelf.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "i.e., antarctica as a whole is also losing a crap-ton of ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "previously, there was a theory that the ice gain on eastern antarctica would counteract this by removing 10 meters from the sea level.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the bigger concern in antarctica is the status of the land ice, and most studies find that the [antarctic ice sheets are now losing mass",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice [news] - heres how much ice antarctica is losing--its a lot,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice you have already stated that antarctica in general is losing ice but nasa says otherwise.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice """** he also noted that over the next couple of decades, ice loss in west antarctica will likely outweigh the snowfall increase in east antarctica, and that sea level rise over past decades must be coming from somewhere else.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice study is heavily disputed ( a controversial nasa study says antarctica is gaining ice heres why you should stay skeptical) and one should always be skeptical of a single study that contradicts countless others.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice so the hard evidence suggests antarctica is losing ice at an accelerated rate,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice ">antarctica has been accumulating ice rather than continually losing ice, which wasnt projected by ""science"".",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica and greenland are losing thousands of gigatons of ice that�s a lot,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is gaining ice,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "his claim that nasa confirmed a net gain of ice (which was true for antarctica, but there was still a net loss worldwide) or any of the other claims associated with his stance on climate change, such as climate change models being worthless due to not being able to predict hurricanes, and the afore-mentioned blunder on german tax rates, in which he stated all german people under 30 need to pay a 65% tax rate are well known lies that hes told.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "didnt we have a long argument last month, where you were trying to convince me antarctica was losing ice mass despite clear satellite proof that there is record high ice there?",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica losing six times more ice mass annually now than 40 years ago,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice [antarctica is losing ~125 cubic kilometers of ice each year.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the study stated that ice losses in west antarctica have been outweighed by east antarcticas ice increases, but that this trend may reverse itself in only a few decades.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice heres how much ice antarctica is losing—its a lot ,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the article says how theres been a constant gain of ice in east antarctica of 200 billion tons/year but the rate of loss of ice in west antarctica is increasing.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "im surprised about ""west antarctica"" because ive literally never seen anything to suggest it is losing ice at 6 times the rate of the 1990s, but its a typical yarn to limit ice loss to west antarctica when all of antarctica is likely gaining ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice the fact that antarctica is gaining new ice in addition to losing ice is not really what people should be focusing on and it gives a lot of dimwitted people the idea that nothing is wrong.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "studies: antarctica losing 252 billion tons of ice a year, oceans hotter than ever",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "that said, antarctica is *still* losing land ice, while antartica sea ice is increasing due to a different phenomenon",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica losing six times more ice mass annually now than 40 years ago:,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica has seen a net gain in ice, the loss is only at the coasts.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the amount of ice in the antarctic is growing, yes, but the rate of growth is slowing because the rate of ice loss has increased dramatically",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice " the giant polar ice sheets in greenland and antarctica are losing three times as much ice as 20 years ago, adding to the rising sea level that threatens low-lying coastal areas, according to a new study hailed by scientists as the most accurate assessment of polar ice melt to date.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "i have had arguments with people who tell me how the ice loss of west antarctica is sooooo much, it overwhelms the slight gain on other parts.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice but in actuality antarctica is currently gaining ice.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "[greenland is losing ice, not gaining it ( greenland antarctica ice sheets shrinking fast)",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is warming and losing ice, and sea ice is increasing.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "greenland and antarctica combined are losing maybe half a trillion metric tons a year of ice, but its still relatively small compared to the overall mass of the worlds oceans.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa researcher: antarctica still gaining ice ,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is losing 24 cubic miles of ice a year... that ice becomes enormous bodies of cold water, which fuck up aquatic and shoreline ecosystems wherever they ends up.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "i mean if you actually read it youd notice that they threw out a number of models that predicted loss greater than their methodology, and even then they still report that specific regions in antarctica are still losing ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice eastern antarctica is massive and gaining ice mass.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "there is a nasa study from sept antarctic ice sheet mass gains greater than losses which doesnt contradict the melting, but argues that",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica has been losing ice overall, however there is some spatial heterogeneity across the landscape; the east antarctic ice sheet has been gaining some mass (18 gt/yr), but this is overtaken by the losses in the antarctic peninsula and west antarctic ice sheet which are cumulatively losing 185 gt/yr .",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice new study confirms that greenland and antarctica are together losing ice at over 500 (�107) cubic kilometers every year.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "if antarctica is actually gaining more ice than its losing, how is rising sea levels still an issue?",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the study says that ice loss in antarctica is accelerating due to the warming of the planet, just that it isnt yet faster than it is gaining ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the way people have been talking, youd have thought antarctica was losing ice this whole time.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "for instance, grace satellites directly measure changes to the mass of the antarctic ice sheet via its gravity field and it shows that antarctica is losing more than a hundred billion metric tons annually.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "but as antarctica is gaining ice, it is also losing ice as well.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice a 2015 nasa study caused major controversy by claiming that antarctica was gaining more ice than it was losing.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "actually, the gain of antarctic ice is more than enough to make up for the loss in antarctica.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica still gains over 84 million cubic miles of ice every fucking year.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "as nasa giss director dr. gavin schmidt (just because antarctica might be gaining ice doesn�t mean climate change isnt happening) commented, ""i would pin more weight to the grace data than to this latest paper"".",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice west antarctica is losing ice at an accelerating rate.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the study i linked concludes that, ""four decades of mass balance in antarctica that reveal a mass loss during the entire period and a rapid increase of land ice loss over the last two decades in parts of antarctica"".",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice grace satellite data--which directly measures changes to the ice sheets mass through its gravity field--shows that antarctica is losing 125 billion metric tons of ice every year.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "all other studies conclude that antarctica as a whole and greenland are losing ice, and that the ice loss is accelerating, which is the scary bit.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice vital signs of the planet: land ice - data from nasas grace satellites show that the land ice sheets in both antarctica and greenland are losing mass.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "since its unclear (antarctica gains ice but still warming) as to whether or not antarctica is currently losing or gaining ice, largely due to glacial isostatic adjustment uncertainties, two dead seas worth of additional ice (on top of the 19th century accumulation rate) is a lot of fracking ice�if two dead seas worth of ice per year were disappearing from greenland, it would be catastrophic according to the alarmists.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "only if you look at sea ice, antarctica is losing land ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "otoh warming on antarctica causes more melt from the ice on the perimeter of land causing the surrounding waters to cool and lower salinity, increasing sea ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice [tech] - antarctica is losing ice 6 times faster today than in 1980s,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "western antarctica is losing ice, while eastern antarctica is gaining ice at a rate that eclipses the rate of loss.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the florida-sized thwaites glacier in antarctica, nicknamed the doomsday glacier is already losing 50 billion tons of ice each year.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "if you dont believe it, then why do you believe the author of the study were discussing, who claims antarctica is losing ice?",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "there are many ways to explain the sea ice gain in antarctica, which is not as significant as the ice loss in the arctic, and which is balanced by the fact that antarctica appears to be losing land ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice """since 2015, multiple studies have shown that antarctica is losing more ice than its gaining, though the 2015 study remains a favorite of climate change doubters to this day.""",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "if you read the article, the author of the study straight up says they agree with other studies showing massive ice discharge from certain areas and yes there was more gain in west antarctica but that could change.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice did you know that 100 billion tons of ice gain in antarctica annually?,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "just to be pedantic and accurate: antarctica is gaining ice by area, but losing ice by mass.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "this week, a more recent research conducted by the national aeronautics and space administration (nasa) seemed to show the opposite: antarctica is gaining more ice that it has been losing for the past two decades.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa reveals that antarctica is actually gaining more ice than it is losing [r/worldnews by u/maxamm0],Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice this is the best tldr i could make (antarctica and greenland are losing thousands of gigatons of ice that�s a lot) reduced by 78%.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is now losing about 160 billion tonnes of ice a year to the ocean - twice as much as when the continent was last surveyed.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "it and crowder says nothing of western antarctica, the arctic, greenland all of which are losing ice at a phenomenal rate that makes the ice gain in a part of antarctica meaningless.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "it may sound too good to be true, but it would certainly be in line with all the most advanced models agreeing last year that the melting of west antarctica would at most raise sea levels by 18 cm this century under the most extreme warming scenario potentially offset by east antarctica gaining ice from increased snowfall in some models.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "this is the the average area of ice sheets taken from nasa 5 years ago"" and then proceeding to show a picture showing an increase of ice sheets in greenland, when in reality the world as a whole and antarctica especially is losing ice sheets each year.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa has known for a while that antarctica is not actually losing ice.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa reveals that antarctica is actually gaining more ice than it is losing,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice they say west antarctica is losing ice and east is gaining but that overall it could mean that there will be overall losses of ice in the next 20 years.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice global arctic ice levels are dropping more than the gain of the glacial ice in antarctica.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice that antarctica is gaining ice just means the rise comes from elsewhere.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica isnt losing a great deal of ice btw.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "i dont believe the results of that 2015 paper, and i would appreciate it you could cite any other peer-reviewed paper that concludes that antarctica is not losing ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the ipcc range assumes a near-zero net contribution of the greenland and antarctic ice sheets to future sea level rise, on the basis that antarctica is expected to gain mass from an increase in snowfall.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice the increase in area is caused by a gain in antarctic sea ice,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica actually has a net gain of ice per year,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "ice loss in west antarctica is speeding up new measurements confirm west antarctica is losing mass, fast worldnews",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa study has issues (a controversial nasa study says antarctica is gaining ice heres why you should stay skeptical),Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice and antarctica is already losing 70 billion tons of ice per year.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica not losing ice, nasa researcher finds",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice in other words antarctica and greenland are losing ice mass.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "yeah, i took away that some scientists think a part of antarctica might be accumulating ice slightly faster than the continent is losing ice, but the loss has increased while the gain has not.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "with the publication of the report that antarctica gaining more ice than losing, could water formed from combustion reactions cause the rise sea levels?",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice the only area of antarctica which is losing ice are those areas of west antarctica which have been proved to be resulting from heavy geothermal processes.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice Ive linked a few sources below Ive looked trough that do not state any gain of ice mass in antarctica.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "based on grace data, antarctica has been losing an average of 127 billion tons of ice every year since 2002.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is gaining ice,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "ice loss in west antarctica is speeding up | new measurements confirm west antarctica is losing mass, fast",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice that is why greenland and antarctica are not losing any ice.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica may be gaining ice in one region due to changing global currents, but it is losing ice in all others",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice gravity data collected from space using nasas grace satellite show that antarctica has been losing more than a hundred cubic kilometers (24 cubic miles) of ice each year since 2002.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the continent of antarctica has been losing about 134 billion metric tons of ice per year since 2002, while the greenland ice sheet has been losing an estimated 287 billion metric tons per year.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "zwally, one of the lead authors of the paper you lined still stands behind his original paper but he now admits that his predictions were wrong and that the melting and tipping point has been reached now not two or three decades in the future",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice 2 second google search tells me antarctica is also losing ice...,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "zwallys team calculated that the mass gain from the thickening of east antarctica remained steady from 1992 to 2008 at 200 billion tons per year, while the ice losses from the coastal regions of west antarctica and the antarctic peninsula increased by 65 billion tons per year.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice the old site conveniently neglected to mention that antarctica is not losing ice and your climate scientists arent sure why.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "@nbcnews: antarctica and greenland are losing ice 6 times faster than in the 1990s, new studies show.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "2015 has suggested that until 2008 there might have been a bigger increase in ice on east antarctica than there is a decrease in the west, meaning that total antarctic land ice is increasing.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is losing ice, though a couple of areas are not, so ""skeptics"" only want to see those data and ignore the rest.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice for a couple of years antarctica temporary gained sea ice but thats stopped and it is once again losing ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "skeptic arguments that antarctica is gaining ice frequently hinge on an error of omission, namely ignoring the difference between land ice and sea ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "yes, antarctica is losing mass from its ice sheets.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice long term antarctica is expected to begin losing sea ice as more of the snows begin to turn to rain (century scale).,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "overall, we are experiencing global net ice loss, primarily in greenland and antarctica and this ice loss is causing an increase in sea level.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "nasa says antarctica is actually gaining ice, not losing it -- and has been since 1992",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the average rate of ice thinning in west antarctica has also increased, and this sector is now losing almost one third as much ice each year than it did during the five year period prior to cryosat-2s launch",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "she told bbc news: even with these large snowfall events, antarctica is still losing ice mass at a faster rate than it is gaining mass from snowfall, mainly due to the regions of known ice dynamic instability, such as in the amundsen sea embayment which includes pine island and thwaites glaciers.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "this phenomenon is not seen in antarctica because it has not losing mass since the ice age glaciation, and probably has gained a bit due to increased snowfall.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica overall has been losing land ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the antarctica ice sheet (which you might call the ice cap but its much bigger than an ice cap technically - there are only two ice sheets in the world today) is losing mass.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is, according to observations, gaining ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "this small thickening, sustained over thousands of years and spread over the vast expanse of these sectors of antarctica, corresponds to a very large gain of ice, enough to outweigh the losses from fast-flowing glaciers in other parts of the continent and reduce global sea level rise.""",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the research challenges the conclusions of other studies, including the intergovernmental panel on climate changes (ipcc) 2013 report, which says that antarctica is overall losing land ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "however, antarcticas additional ice mass gained from snowfall makes up for just about a third of its current ice loss.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "its being caused by the expansion of warmer water, and from meltwater from places like antarctica and greenland, which are losing ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "bit random but i was just listening to a star talk radio podcast and they mentioned how antarctica is losing more ice in the west than it is in the east, only problem is for some reason i cant seem to wrap my head around identifying the points of a compass at the poles.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica gaining more ice than its losing,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarcticas ice gains don�t mean global warming is over ,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice 12/05/19 facts on ice sheets data from nasas grace satellites show that the land ice sheets in both antarctica (upper chart) and greenland (lower) have been losing mass since 2002.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice heres how much ice antarctica is losing: the worlds southernmost continent is jettisoning six times more ice now than it was four decades ago.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice 2012 zwally et all from harvard found antarctica is net gaining ice at a rate of 38gt/y using data from icesat.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "extraordinary thinning of ice sheets revealed deep inside antarctica - new research shows affected areas are losing ice five times faster than in the 1990s, with more than 100m of thickness gone in some places",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "if the losses of the antarctic peninsula and parts of west antarctica continue to increase at the same rate theyve been increasing for the last two decades, the losses will catch up with the long-term gain in east antarctica in 20 or 30 years -- i dont think there will be enough snowfall increase to offset these losses and the greenland and antarctic ice sheets have decreased in mass.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "actually, the gain of antarctic ice is more than enough to make up for the loss in antarctica.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice initial grace results were anomalous and cheered as evidence that antarctica was losing ice mass.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "grace satellites, for instance, directly measure changes to the ice sheets mass via its gravity field and they show that antarctica is losing over a hundred billion metric tons of ice annually.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice didnt antarctica gain more ice last year than it lost?,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "our main disagreement is for east antarctica and the interior of west antarctica �there, we see an ice gain that exceeds the losses in the other areas.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice many authentic reports including intergovernmental panel on climate changes 2013 report also documented that antarctica is losing its ice sheet.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "over the last 10 years or so, antarctica has been gaining ice at ~80 bt/year.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "while the interior of east antarctica is gaining land ice, **overall antarctica has been losing land ice at an accelerating rate**.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "there are of course uncertainties in the estimation methods but independent data from multiple measurement techniques (explained here) all show the same thing, antarctica is losing land ice as a whole, and these losses are accelerating quickly.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is currently losing more than 130 billion tons of ice per year, and again, that number is increasing every year.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "even nasa had to come out and admit that antarctica is accumulating more ice than it is losing, and thats on top of its enormous sea ice extend.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice the fact remains that antarctica and greenland are losing ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing ice at an accelerating rate.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "extraordinary thinning of ice sheets revealed deep inside antarctica � new analysis of satellite data shows affected areas are losing ice 5 times faster than in the 1990s, with more than 100m of thickness gone in some places, ice losses rapidly spreading deep into the interior of the antarctic",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica has been losing ice the past 30 years, and increased co2 in the atmosphere has been demonstrated to be the cause.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the west antarctic ice sheet seems to be good at collapsing: new study finds it shrank dramatically even when earth was not as warm as today.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa says antarctica is gaining ice mass (nasa study mass gains of antarctic ice sheet greater than losses),Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "according to a nasa study published this week in the journal of glaciology, an increase in antarctic snow accumulation that began 10,000 years ago is currently adding enough ice to the continent to outweigh the increased losses from its thinning glaciers that finding contradicts the intergovernmental panel on climate change (ipcc), which in 2013 declared that antarctica was losing land ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice i have seen lots of climate change denialists say ice is increasing in antarctica to counter north polar melting.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "zwally said that while other scientists have assumed that the gains in elevation seen in east antarctica are due to recent increases in snow accumulation, his team used meteorological data beginning in 1979 to show that the snowfall in east antarctica actually decreased by 11 billion tons per year during both the ers and icesat periods.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice literally every other study on antarctica using a variety of study methods conclude that antarctica is losing overall ice mass.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica colder arctic its still losing ice,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "i thought for the last many years, antarctica had a net ice gain?",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice overall antarctica is losing land ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice just because antarctica might be gaining ice doesn�t mean climate change isnt happening,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "and when you dont ignore counter arguments like nasas report on antarctica gaining more ice than its losing, despite losing land area",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "while the interior of east antarctica is gaining land ice, overall antarctica has been losing land ice at an accelerating rate.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "notice that this is about one of the studies that disagrees with the previous one, and finds that antarctica has been losing mass over all.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa update to this article you quoted...east glaciers losing ice in the last decade,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing ice twice as fast as anyone thought,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is gaining ice,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "for example, there are multiple ice sheets, and many of them like some in greenland are losing significantly more ice than antarctica is gaining.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice the vast majority of studies show that antarctica is losing overall land ice mass through a variety of research techniques.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the same group that presented those findings which were in disagreement with results from other researchers now reports that the losses have increased, and are about equal to gains",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica may now be losing more ice than greenland for the first time on record.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "as a whole, antarctica is losing ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice here is stupid article from nasa where they state that the ice is increasing in antarctica but they have to throw in that some spots are losing ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "there is variation between regions within antarctica, with the west antarctic ice sheet and the antarctic peninsula ice sheet losing ice mass, and with an increasing rate.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctic sea ice is actually *increasing*, but this seems to largely be *caused* by the loss of antarctic land ice), and current projections dont include a complete loss of the antarctic ice cap (where most of the ice is), but rather, a fairly modest decline (in relative terms - its still seriously bad news for us, as we could be talking several *meters* of sea level rise) over a couple centuries",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "a new special [report by the intergovernmental panel on climate change said wednesday that glaciers around the world, outside of greenland and antarctica but including europe, are losing 220 billion metric tons of ice a year.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice east antarctica is losing ice faster than anyone thought,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the earth is also losing ice from on ground - antarctica, glaciers, etc, that then joins the oceans and raises sea level.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa just released a report saying that antarctica is gaining ice as opposed to losing it.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing land ice overall.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the latest data reveal that antarctica is losing ice at an accelerating rate, too.""",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "before you go off on an antarctica tangent, consider for a second that the ice gains in the south only accounted for **1/3rd** of the ice lost in the arctic and greenland.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is losing its ice at an alarming rate than four decades ago, a new study says, but it turns out, the problem is just the tip of an iceberg.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica has gained sea ice, but it has actually *lost* land ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing ice 6 times faster today than in 1980s,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "1) hes misquoting a single study that one ice sheet was gaining mass despite the authors of that study and basically every other source showing that, as a whole, antarctica is losing way more mass than its gaining",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "really no one fully understands why antarctica is gaining ice, so if you want to understand you have to read the scientific literature.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice a key point of that study is that antarctica is gaining ice but at a slower rate than it was in the past.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice satellites measure antarctica is gaining sea ice but losing land ice at an accelerating rate which has implications for sea level rise.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "if we cant agree on something as factual as antarctica ice gain, i dont think we will be able to come to an agreement on something as subjective as the paris accord crippling our economy.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is colder than the arctic, but its still losing ice",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice """antarctica is gaining ice"" -- ""no its losing it"" however according to this it does seem to be losing it.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice because i dont recall agw theory stating that antarctica would gain land ice.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "unfortunately for us, it seems that ice melt has not just increased at the same rate it [tripled since 2012 so this study shouldnt offer much comfort to anyone who cares about the environment.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "heck, glaciers are melting, antarctica and greenland are losing humongous amounts of ice to the salty ocean.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice so no america would not be under water by any stretch of the imagination as the climate has grown warmer antarctica has started to gain water ice faster as well.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "one puzzle of global warming has been to explain why west antarctica is losing ice, while east antarctica is gaining it.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "over this period, ocean-driven melting has caused rates of ice loss from west antarctica to increase from 53 ± 29 billion to 159 ± 26 billion tonnes per year; ice-shelf collapse has increased the rate of ice loss from the antarctic peninsula from 13 billion to 33 billion tonnes per year.” ",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "first of all, the gains are specific to certain areas of antarctica, while it states that despite those gains, overall ice discharge is increasing.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is losing land ice as a whole, and these losses are accelerating quickly.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice arntarctica is actually losing ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice i was looking at that recent nasa study - that says that there is net gain of land ice in antarctica.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the research challenges the conclusions of other studies, including the intergovernmental panel on climate changes (ipcc) 2013 report, which says that antarctica is overall losing land ice.""",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica although considerably colder than the arctic because of its much higher average elevation is not gaining ice at all.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice what does antarctica gaining sea ice have to do with arctic life on the other side of the planet who are losing ice at ridiculous rates?,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "livescience.com - antarctica losing ice, contrary to expectations",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is still losing ice mass at a faster rate than it is gaining mass from snowfall,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice and grace documents antarctica as losing ice too.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing ice overall (land ice).,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the rate at which antarctica is losing ice has tripled since 2007, according to the latest available data.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice all the most advanced models agreeing last year that the melting of west antarctica would at most raise sea levels by 18 cm this century under the most extreme warming scenario (potentially offset by east antarctica gaining ice from increased snowfall in some models.),Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is gaining ice, not losing it.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice link: antarctica is losing an unfathomable amount of ice ,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "and while the arctic is losing ice, antarctica is adding ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "nasa says the continent of antarctica has seen a net gain of ice from 2008-2018, and thats its the coasts that are barely losing ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "to be fair, the last time that a nasa satellite looked at antarctica, they found that the eastern interior was gaining more ice than the glaciers were losing on the order of 100 billion tons.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the good news, says riva, is that antarctica is not losing ice as rapidly as suggested by many recent studies.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is definitely losing ice mass.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "this small thickening, sustained over thousands of years and spread over the vast expanse of these sectors of antarctica, corresponds to a very large gain of ice enough to outweigh the losses from fast-flowing glaciers in other parts of the continent and reduce global sea level rise.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice so theres nothing contradictory about the statement of antarctica losing trillions of tons of ice sheets and the nasa link you posted.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "as per the research paper cited in that article, losses outpaced gains, with grounded-ice loss from greenland (200 billion tonnes per year) and antarctica (118 billion tonnes per year) contributing 14 millimeters to sea level.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica losing enough ice every year to fill the three gorges reservoir 19 times,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica stores enough frozen water to raise global sea level by 58 metres, and knowing how much ice it is losing is key to understanding the impacts of climate change today and in the future.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "our main disagreement is for east antarctica and the interior of west antarctica, there, we see an ice gain that exceeds the losses in the other areas for the next 20 or 30 years anyway.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "underwater sea ice, once antarctica starts losing ice from the landmass itself, then we are truly boned, and unfortunately its not mater of if, but when at this point.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice what this study shows is that antarctica is and has been gaining a small amount of ice mass since we started measuring in 1992.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice the glacier is a particular cause for concern as it is losing more ice than any other glacier in antarctica.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice we know both greenland and antarctica are losing land ice at an accelerating rate.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "this has been known for a while- antarctica is gaining some ice (~~sea ice only, no land ice~~) while the arctic is losing about 3 times as much ice as antarctica is gaining- at least several million km2 worth.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice scientists reveal greenland and antarctica losing 500 cubic kms of ice annually,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice yet another study shows antarctica gaining ice mass accumulation highest we have seen in the last 300 years,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice ice gain is staying the same while melting is increasing in antarctica.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "west antarctica is losing land ice, while east antarctica is roughly constant in land ice, but is gaining sea ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is gaining ice but glaciers across the world are, on average, losing a lot of ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice i mean al gore said new york would be under water by 2016... antarctica has seen a net ice gain (source nasa).,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica still losing ice despite big rise in snowfall,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "temperatures have gone up, arctic sea ice has reduced dramatically, antarctic sea ice is growing in spite of rising souther ocean temperatures, and antarctica is losing land ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice also the other side of antarctica has been losing ice and the rate the other side is losing has been accelerating and if it continues accelerating at this rate it will be faster than the gains noted here.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice you can weasel around all you want but antarctica is not growing more ice than it is losing.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa reveals that antarctica is actually gaining more ice than it is losing chart in comments,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "he said the big difference is that his satellite-based study found east antarctica, which used to be considered stable, is losing 56 billion tons (51 billion metric tons) of ice a year.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "also, the arctic is losing ice like antarctica is.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "were gaining ice, not losing it in antarctica.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice i remember some climate change deniers used a study that found a certain section of antarctica had actually gained ice to try and debunk climate change.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "places like antarctica are gaining ice, according to nasa.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "while thats true, it doesnt change the net sea ice amount: the arctic is losing faster than antarctica is growing.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing ice 6 times faster today than in 1980s,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "this video is interesting and sort of funny, and addresses the idea of pointing to ice gains in antarctica, as well as many other ideas climate skeptics have.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "snow is apparently piling up on antarctica for the same reason, and confounding alarmist attempts trying to stir fears in the public of antarctica losing ice and raising sea levels.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "there is plenty going on that merits concern: antarctic ice shelves overall are seeing accelerated thinning, and the ice sheet is losing mass in key sectors of antarctica.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice there is ice loss still occurring at the periphery of west antarctica; its simply that the ice gains in the other regions are greater in magnitude,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "yeah, and then they totally lie and write ""data from nasas grace satellites show that the land ice sheets in both antarctica and greenland are losing mass.""",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice satellites measure antarctica losing land ice at an accelerating rate.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctic ice sheet mass gains greater than losses,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice further evidence that antarctica is gaining ice mass can be gained from the fact that antarctic sea ice is gaining in both volume and extent.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice meanwhile ice extent in the east is rapidly expanding causing a net ice gain in antarctica.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the thin sea ice around antarctica, due mostly to freshwater runoff from melts and changing wind patterns is nothing compared to the decrease in sea ice from the arctic.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "it would count, but climate models predicted that antarctica and the inner portion of greenland would gain ice, guess what?",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice the ice losses from the coastal regions of west antarctica and the antarctic peninsula increased by 65 billion tons per year (between 1992 - 2008).,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "second, antarctica has been making massive gains in ice growth",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice the arctic ice cap is receding and antarctica is losing ice mass.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice measurements from grace tells us antarctica is losing a volume of 100 cubic kilometers of ice per year.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing ice 6 times faster today than in the 1980s,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is losing ice mass and soon, you can literally see the land that is antarctica.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "a popular anti climate change talking point is that antarctic ice is gaining mass, when in actuality there is only one ice sheet in antarctica that is gaining mass (i forget if its the west or the east, regardless antarctica is overall losing ice) and greenland is losing something like 4x the amount of ice that any ice sheet has been gaining.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice ice sheets in greenland and antarctica are losing mass at an unprecedented rate of 500 cubic kilometers per year — enough ice to cover the chicago metropolitan area with a layer of ice 600 meters thick — according to german researchers.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the volume of ice in antarctica has been decreasing for decades, this has not slowed or stopped, and parts of the wais that extend over water are melting from below as the ocean warms 90% of the excess energy accumulating in the climate system as a result of increasing ghg emissions goes into the ocean",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is gaining more ice than its losing, nasa study finds",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica gaining ice,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "probably holding on to that nasa report that said the antarctica ice sheets are gaining something like 80,000 tons of ice while failing to understand that the artic ice cap is losing like 200,000 tons of ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "sure, antarctica may be gaining small amounts of ice, the planet as a whole is losing sea ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "yes, the ozone layer is healing, but antarctica is definitely not gaining ice over time.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice so the gain in sea ice in certain areas does not suggest that antarctica is exactly gaining ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice were essentially in agreement with other studies that show an increase in ice discharge in the antarctic peninsula and the thwaites and pine island region of west antarctica,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the vast majority of studies show that antarctica is losing net ice, including direct measurements of antarctic ice sheet mass from nasas grace satellites.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing ~127 gigatons in ice mass per year.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "oh, and overall antarctica is *losing* ice, not gaining it.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "yes, if you are only observing sea ice and completely ignoring land ice... satellites have measured antarctica losing land ice at an accelerating rate.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice thats just a local weather system meaning that antarctica isnt losing ice.... thats it.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "til that antarctica is gaining and not losing ice, despite global warming.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica gaining ices losing 10,000 year old trend reverse nasa warns ",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is gaining ice, but the bulk of the gain is sea ice which does not change sea level because the mass is still in the ocean and displaces an amount of sea water equal to its mass, completely negating any change in sea level that might otherwise cause because its mass is from the sea water.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice data from nasas grace satellites show that the land ice sheets in both antarctica (upper chart) and greenland (lower) have been losing mass since 2002.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice [politics] - antarctica is losing ice 6 times faster today than in 1980s | miami herald,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "[""antarctica is losing ice twice as fast as anyone thought.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "eastern antarctica gained 200 billion tons of ice per year from 1992 to 2008, according to zwallys study, outweighing ice losses from western antarctica totalling 65 billion tons per year.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "~~or put another way, because that sentence is not well written: ipcc says antarctica is losing land ice, nasa says it is gaining land ice.~~",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "just for the record, antarctica is actually gaining more ice than losing, only a small portion on one side of antarctica is losing ice.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice we just had a report from nasa last year showing the oceans cooling and antarctica gaining ice faster than it was losing it.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice > the fact remains that antarctica and greenland are losing ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is also losing land ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "ive seen claims of the world ending by 2015, or 1990s, or famine droughts, storms, etc etc pre 2020s, no more ice in the arctic, antarctica losing ice and so forth.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "[science] - antarctica and greenland are losing thousands of gigatons of ice, thats a lot",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica losing 20% of its ice in 9 days,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice this is the best tldr i could make (antarctica may be gaining more ice than its losing but its still in trouble) reduced by 71%.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is losing a net 125 billion metric tons of ice annually.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "and as im sure you know, freshwater freezes a lot more easily than saltwater, causing the area of ice on the eastern side of antarctica to grow (despite the total volume of ice decreasing).",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "actually, the gain of antarctic ice is more than enough to make up for the loss in antarctica.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the sea ice forms in the winter and even expands each year (as a result of all the new fresh melt water) but it also melts each summer taking along with it some land ice in specific regions that has survived thousands of summers, but the process that is contributing to 200 extra tons per year is giving more ice than antarctica is losing at the moment.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "antarctica is gaining more ice than its losing, nasa study finds - sciencealert",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice 1) western antarctica is losing ice mass from land at an accelerating land,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is not losing ice overall. Nasa study mass gains of antarctic ice sheet greater than losses.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the arctic is burning, antarctica in losing sea ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "in sum total, antarctica is not gaining ice though, but losing ice",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica appears to be losing ice mass.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa reveals that antarctica is actually gaining more ice than it is losing,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice /u/quinnthegreater is correct to point out that ice gain in antarctica alone doesnt invalidate observed warming elsewhere.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "there was one team which, based on surface altitude measurements, thought that antarctica was gaining ice until a few years ago.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice [science] - antarctica is losing ice at an accelerating rate.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "its a good guess, because the volcanic regions of west antarctica are the only regions losing ice mass in antarctica.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "if you put both articles together you get a bit of a clearer picture: antarctica is losing ice in some areas and gaining it in others, and the arctic is losing ice, albeit more slowly than predicted, overall contributing to a slight increase in sea levels.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice both greenland and antarctica are losing more ice than gaining,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the ozone layer is healing, antarctica is gaining ice,",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "zwallys team calculated that the mass gain from the thickening of east antarctica remained steady from 1992 to 2008 at 200 billion tons per year, while the ice losses from the coastal regions of west antarctica and the antarctic peninsula increased by 65 billion tons per year.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice crowder argued that nasa confirmed a global net gain of ice of 82bn tons and that this is evidence of cooling when in fact this figure was only for antarctica and that greenland had lost 269bn tons in the same period).,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "there will even be years of loss and years of gain, but overall antarctica is trending towards gaining net ice, and will continue to do so for the next couple thousands years atleast.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice telling my dad that antarctica is gaining more ice than it is losing.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice """antarctica losing 160 billion tonnes of ice per year""",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice nasa reveals that antarctica is actually gaining more ice than it is losing this is exactly what i am talking about.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice this article here (is antarctica losing ice or gaining it) also quotes nasa and talks about how the antarctic ice is increasing.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the pine island glacier in west antarctica, which is around twice the size of scotland, is losing ice four times as fast as it was a decade years ago.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "for instance, grace satellite data--which directly measures changes to the ice sheets mass--shows that antarctica is losing overall ice mass.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice """gravity data collected from space using nasas grace satellite show that antarctica has been losing more than a hundred cubic kilometers (24 cubic miles) of ice each year since 2002. """,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "my point was that yes, there is increased ice accumulation in antarctica due to increased precipitation and the global coalition of climate scientists who are warning the world about global warming predicted this as a result of global warming 10 years ago.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "how does this data relate to this study from nasa in 2015 (nasa study mass gains of antarctic ice sheet greater than losses) stating that antarctica had a net gain of 1.4 trillion tons if ice from 1992 to 2008, gaining 82 to 112 billion tons of ice every year.",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice "most studies on the antarctic ice sheet do show it losing net ice, but even from your own link:",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice antarctica is at the south pole and weve known for years that it is gaining ice.,Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice the most important thing here is that ice melting is increasing and it is only a matter of years before antarctica will start losing ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice > antarctic ice hits maximum... antarctica is losing ice volume at a record rate.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "pointing out that theres a very modest increase in sea ice cover, without acknowledging that antarcticas overall ice balance is massively negative, ignores the more important part of the equation.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the current consensus among glaciologists is that antarctica as a whole is losing on ice, though it is true that east antarctica is probably gaining ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice >the findings dispel the idea that east antarctica has been gaining enough ice from snowfall to cancel out losses in west antarctica,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "in fact, antarctic sea ice is increasing in spite of the southern ocean being warmer, and partly due to the fact that antarctica is losing land ice.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice greenland and antarctica losing ice six times faster than expected,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice heres a quick video as well (why is ice is growing) or a tldr is: antarctica is losing land ice and gaining sea ice.,Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "> while the interior of east antarctica is gaining land ice, overall antarctica has been losing land ice at an accelerating rate.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "although scientists agree the antarctic ice sheets have been growing recently (of course, depending on their agreement with the methodology, which has been called into question), antarctica is not the only place that has ice sheets, and youll find that every credible climatologist and polar ice scientist agrees that that ratio of gain to loss leans heavily to a net loss (to the tune of *gigatonnes* per year)",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice ">the rate at which antarctica is losing ice has more than doubled since 2012, according to the latest available data.",Support,Antarctica is not gaining ice "the original poster was incorrect and that antarctica has experienced net gain of ice both recently, and progressively across the last 60 years (since weve been accurately measuring).",Refute,Antarctica is not gaining ice cosmic ray contribution to global warming negligible,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming im sick of all the bad science out there claiming climate change is due to cosmic rays-its not.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "they are just as convinced as the people who think climate change is being driven by sunspots or cosmic rays or what the fuck ever it is today, and just as short on evidence.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the sun and cosmic rays are not the culprit behind modern warming.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "new evidence suggests that high-energy particles from space known as galactic cosmic rays affect the earths climate by increasing cloud cover, causing an ""umbrella effect"".",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming """in particular, the sun cannot have contributed more than 30% to the steep temperature increase that has taken place since then, irrespective of which of the three considered channels is the dominant one determining sun-climate interactions: tropospheric heating caused by changes in total solar irradiance, stratospheric chemistry influenced by changes in the solar uv spectrum, or cloud coverage affected by the cosmic ray flux.""",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays have no influence on global warming: study debunks climate skeptic argument,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "however, it is premature to conclude that cosmic rays have a significant influence on climate until the additional nucleating vapours have been identified, their ion enhancement measured, and the ultimate effects on clouds have been confirmed.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming link between cosmic ray flux and global temperature found,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cern experiment finds possible link between cosmic rays and climate change,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cern conducted some pretty cool experiments on this, which concluded that cosmic rays do enhance cloud formation, but not enough to explain observed changes in the earths climate.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the main hypothesized influence of variations in the solar magnetic field on the earth climate is through cloud seeding by cosmic rays, svensmark being the main proponent.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the paper in your source, usoskin 2005, says ""...during these last 30 years the solar total irradiance, solar uv irradiance and cosmic ray flux has not shown any significant secular trend, so that at least this most recent warming episode must have another source.""",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming theres also spends mark who is studying the effect of cosmic rays on our climate and he has his own theory you can read about it now cern is having a cloud program in their heart on collider that theyre running and actually the evidence coming out of the cloud program is showcasing that cosmic rays do affect our clouds which in turn can heat or cool the earth based on how much of them there are and how dense they are ,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "im not denying cosmic ray flux is important to study, im just saying i havent seen anyone argue for it as a main cause of long-term global warming, much less a scientific consensus.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming " in fact cern chief scientist said that 98% of the climate on earth is determined by cosmic rays, but said he doesnt want to further talk about it because its politically incorrect.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "solar cycles, milankovitch cycles, cloud cover, and cosmic rays have all been shown to not correlate strongly with the temperature rise.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "because the suns magnetic field controls how many cosmic rays reach earths atmosphere (the stronger the suns magnetic field, the more it shields earth from incoming cosmic rays from space), the sun determines the temperature in earth",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "just look at the fury that accompanies any scientist who dares cite anything other than co2 as the sole driver of the climate, like cosmic rays, or aerosols.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "they simply are the result of more moisture in the atmosphere, and it is a denier talking point to claim fluctuations in cosmic rays influence climate temperatures.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cern gags physicists about role of cosmic rays in climate change,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming """cosmic ray intensity over the last billion years vary too little in intensity to explain large scale changes in climate""",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "its not my job to explain to you how ""proving with scientific method"" this cosmic ray theory does not in any way disprove co2 warming theories.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "these groups often point to natural variability, such as sunspots and cosmic rays, to explain the warming trend.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays modulate cloud formation which are the primary component to global warming.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "you can go on putting your faith in untested theories about cosmic rays and clouds, but right now the science does support a reasonable cause for concern - which is why even the pentagon sees global warming as a threat.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the climate in the antarctic stratosphere has been completely controlled by cfcs and cosmic rays, with no co2 impact.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "according to any proper scientist looking at solar cycle, the influence of cosmic rays on cloud formation and subsequent cooling, and the uncorrected historic temperature data thats shows these obvious oscillations.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "as early as 1959, **it was hypothesized that an indirect link between solar activity and climate could be mediated by mechanisms controlling the flux of galactic cosmic rays",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "also, we know how much cosmic ray activity weve been getting, we know what the climate is doing, and they dont match up.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "when discussing possible drivers for climate change, youd need to also show evidence that cloud formation due to cosmic rays is the driver for climate change.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there is also no record of cosmic rays affecting global temperatures in the past, and they dont match up as cosmic rays are stable and never really change all that much.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming and some more papers concluding cosmic rays are not a significant contributor to climate change.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming [solar radiation (cosmic rays) arent causing global warming.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "particle forcing, cosmic rays/radiation and interglacial cycles always stump the climate alarmist because they have nothing to combat these facts with.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming convincing new evidence demonstrates cosmic rays and the sun � not human activities as the dominant controller of climate on earth.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "it cannot confirm svensmark, in fact, because the cosmic rays have been remarkably stable during the latest warming period.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "from what i understand, cosmic rays and the sun have very little to do with global warming.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming this result leaves open the possibility that cosmic rays could also influence climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "svensmark, h. and e. friis-christensen, 1997: variation of cosmic ray flux and global cloud coverage� missing link in solar-climate relationships, journal of atmospheric and solar-terrestrial physics ",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this is what cern says ""it is premature to conclude that cosmic rays have a significant influence on climate.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the take-home, bottom line message of the article is that the only way to get a significant effect from cosmic rays on clouds and subsequently on climate would require variability in cr flux that is orders of magnitude larger than what we actually see on earth.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cosmic rays 7x more effect on climate, 71 year freeze korea & record alps snow",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "no correlation between cosmic rays and climate, but evidence for correlation between cr and year-to-year temperature.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there are also lots of competing theories about the cause of the warming, such as enso-driven step changes, solar-driven modulation of cloud cover svensmarks cosmic ray hypothesis as well one involving uv effect on high-altitude ozone and cirrus clouds and solar-driven changes on the polar jet streams, exaggeration of the global warming signal due to not accounting for long-term oceanic oscillations and so on.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "concluded in their study that ""during the last 30 years, neither total solar irradiance, nor uv irradiance, nor cosmic ray flux showed a significant long-term trend, so the recent warming must have another reason.""",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming no link between cosmic rays and global warming,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the missing link between exploding stars, clouds, and climate on earth: breakthrough in understanding of how cosmic rays from supernovae can influence earths cloud cover and thereby climate",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this has been collaborated by a team at kobe university in japan which has furthered the finnish researchers theory: *""new evidence suggests that high-energy particles from space known as galactic cosmic rays affect the earths climate by increasing cloud cover, causing an umbrella effect",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "no at all, but it does punch a rather large hole in any contention that cosmic ray flux is the main driver of climate change.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "however, it turns out that none of these hypotheticals are occurring in reality, and if cosmic rays were able to influence global temperatures, they would be having a cooling effect.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "* there is increasing evidence that variations in the suns output and magnetic field, and variations in the cosmic ray flux to the atmosphere play a huge role in climate fluctuation.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming what little we knew about climate change did not include the entire picture of solar forcing and cosmic rays.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the cosmic ray connection is thought to be the mechanism behind this climate change.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming theyve researched cosmic rays cosmic rays and global warming and found that they arent really that that positive.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "it has not been determined as of yet if it affects temperature, but it can definitely cause interference with anything electrical, and anyone at high altitude on earth or in space would be subjected to a large amount of cosmic rays.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "on the more general topic of climate change itself, and the relationship it has with co2, im convinced that external sources (the sun, cosmic rays, etc.) are major drivers of climate change ",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "why do you claim that co2 cant influence the climate despite mountains of evidence, and instead think that cosmic rays might, in spite of the complete absence of empirical evidence?",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "americanthinker.com - a hard right news outlet tells us that global warming research that shows that man-made pollution is killing us off isnt settled science but natural, god-made cosmic rays are to blame!",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "when its warming more rapidly than expected even by ""alarmists"", as it did in the 90s, it must have been the sun, the cosmic rays, pdo, scientists falsifying the temperature record, extraterrestrials, or what have you.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming both milankovitch cycles and svenmarks cosmic ray cloud seeding are significant climate-affecting dynamics that exist on long and short-term scales.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays in addition to directly affecting your nervous system also have a huge impact on climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming """in fact, the data shows that cfcs conspiring with cosmic rays caused both the polar ozone hole and global warming.""",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "tldr: climate is predominantly controlled by cloud cover (not co2), clouds are seeded by cosmic rays, and cosmic rays are throttled by the suns magnetic field.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the reason we have global warming now is because of cosmic rays,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "no mention of gamma and cosmic rays and the suns affect on them, and how they get to earth and what effect those have on climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "in svensmarks theory, the high solar magnetic activity over the past 50 years has shielded earth from cosmic rays and allowed exceptional heating, but now that the sun is more magnetically quiet again, global warming will reverse.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "what about the comprehensive multi-university study from japan and finland that found that the human contribution to climate is about 0.01%, and that the overwhelming majority of the energy being trapped in the earths atmosphere is coming from galactic cosmic rays that create additional clouds.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cosmic rays, sun not withstanding, contribute almost negligibly to the temperature of the planet.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming i was only stating that cosmic rays are a factor in the climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the climate in the antarctic stratosphere has been completely controlled by cfcs and cosmic rays, with no co2 impact.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "like i said earlier, however, the forbush decreases associated with solar flares were correlated to short-term temperature changes by the study i referenced, and cosmic rays affecting cloud cover is the hypothesized mechanism for that.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming """it sounds like a conspiracy theory: cosmic rays from deep space might be creating clouds in earths atmosphere and changing the climate.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "however, direct observations of cosmic ray fluxes do not show any net change over the last several decades (benestad, 2005), and a plausible physical mechanism linking changes in cosmic rays to changes in climate has not been demonstrated.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "some people proposed cosmic rays as an explanation for warming, but it has been investigated extensively, and none of the various proposed mechanisms actually work.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "people only consider svensmarks claims about cosmic rays driving climate change to be nutty because they fear his genius, and not because it simply isnt happening",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "* usoskin 2005 conclude ""during these last 30 years the solar total irradiance, solar uv irradiance and cosmic ray flux has not shown any significant secular trend, so that at least this most recent warming episode must have another source.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "climate change is real, its solar driven though, we have had a slight impact but the ipcc have a lot of bias towards carbon but fail to mention the extent of things like particle forcing and cosmic rays.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "in this picture, solar activity increase is responsible for about half of the twentieth-century global warming through a reduction of the cosmic ray flux, leaving less to be explained by anthropogenic activity.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "but lus pet theory holds that its not co2 thats causing warming, but cfcs interacting with cosmic rays via some unknown physical mechanism.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming there is no correlation between cosmic ray flux and global average temperature and there is no established mechanism that connects the two.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the most prominent candidates for non-anthropogenic warming are the sun via direct effects, and then again the sun, via indirect effects such as cosmic rays.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "obviously, you did not read the article because it does not state cosmic rays are linked directly to climate.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "on the cosmic ray theory - while that is a relatively recent addition to the conversation, no credible scientist seems to think that would somehow totally negate the very easily observable and well studied effects of current greenhouse gas emissions, among other contributors to climate change.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming none of them describe a relationship between cosmic rays and the warming trend.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this may downgrade the co2 driven warming component to half the 0.4 degrees of real heating, so 0.26 to 0.15 degrees assuming the range of real heating excluding uhi, 0.3 to 0.4 degrees, and a solar variable of cosmic ray flux being 30 to 50% of the drivers of real temperature change.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming even if the other two deniers are also wrong i will have to point out that this argument is wrong in this instance - the central debunking for this crazy theory is that there is no correlation between temperatures and cosmic rays - there is also a very good description of why that is the case at:,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "more sunspots mean a stronger magnetic shield, therefore fewer cosmic rays reaching earth, thus less cloud cover and more global warming.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming scientists gagged from interpreting study that links climate change to cosmic rays,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "if one wants to relate this theory (which is btw pushed pretty much alone by svensmark for the last 20 years) to current warming, then the correlation is inverted, as temperatures have been rising despite an increase in cosmic rays which supposedly increase cloud cover and decrease temperatures.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming sallie baliunas tried to link cosmic rays to debunk climate change too.. and her research got laughed out of town.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "many empirical relationships have been reported between galactic cosmic rays or cosmogenic isotope archives and some aspects of the climate system...the forcing from changes in total solar irradiance alone does not seem to account for these observations, implying the existence of an amplifying mechanism such as the hypothesized gcr-cloud link.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "as for one subject i investigated by the ""waverers"", the cosmic ray cloud-generation theory was one i pursued... and it had alternative explanation for the current warming.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "in fact, here is a link to 27+ papers ""on the non-significant role of cosmic rays in climate",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming qing-bin lu revives debunked claims about cosmic rays and cfcs,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming galactic cosmic rays cant explain global warming,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "a considerable fraction of nucleation involves ions, but the relatively weak dependence on ion concentrations indicates that for the processes studied, variations in cosmic ray intensity do not appreciably affect climate through nucleation in the present-day atmosphere.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "you said its not far-fetched that cosmic rays are a cause of global warming since 1850, i was providing some evidence against that hypothesis.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming it explicity attributes most of the warming to cosmic rays.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "someone has said that ""global warming is caused by cosmic rays"", or presumably by their absence.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "solar flares, solar albedo, orbit, the magnetosphere, global electric circuit, galactic cosmic rays, clouds, volcanoes, and interplanetary magnetic fields (birkeland currents) then you must put all change and variability on the side of ""human changes"", here is the big deception: fake, political climate modeling.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "of this 0.3 to 0.4 degree remaining as the actual century of warming, there are several studies that have re-evaluated co2 and anthropogenic emissions as a contributor of this, as maybe around a third to a half of this warming is due to changes in cosmic ray flux due to solar winds and other variables of cosmic ray fluxes",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the output of the sun varies wildly and there are other factors that impact the climate such as cosmic rays and clouds and volcanos,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the take-home, bottom line message of the article is that the only way to get a significant effect from cosmic rays on clouds and subsequently on climate would require variability in cr flux that is *orders of magnitude larger* than what we actually see on earth.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays and solar activity combined explain less than 10% of warming shown in 20th century,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "all of the these facts lead me to believe that carbon dioxide has a relatively small effect on global temperature change compared to natural causes like solar cycles, cosmic rays, milankovitch cycles, volcanoes etc.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "(2009) found that the evidence showed that connections between solar variation and climate were more likely to be mediated by direct variation of insolation rather than cosmic rays, and concluded: hence within our assumptions, the effect of varying solar activity, either by direct solar irradiance or by varying cosmic ray rates, must be less than 0.07 C since 1956",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cosmic ray interaction with our atmosphere too, this argument always shuts down man made climate change zealots.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the changes we see in our climate are due to natural causes, be it emerging from a glacial period, to cycles in solar output, to variation in cosmic rays, to even annual patterns like el nino.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "it looks like this research is quite controversial because some of the scientists working on it have suggested cosmic ray flux may play a role in climate change, and this is an area of politically charged research.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "direct measurements likewise show that the number of cosmic rays, which some scientists have posited might influence cloud formation and hence climate, have neither declined nor increased during the last 30 years.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays and space weather: effects on global climate change,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming henrik svensmarks documentary on climate change and cosmic rays is one of the best believable explanations of global warming that i have seen.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the folk who believe that volcanism or cosmic rays or insolation has caused the recently observed warming are necessarily attributing the warming to something we cannot even observe, let alone control.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "changes in solar activity affect the cosmic ray flux impinging upon the earths atmosphere, which has been hypothesized to affect climate through changes in cloudiness.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming i learned hes the guy whos behind the bullshit theory of cosmic rays causing global warming.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "controversial studies that suggest cosmic rays promote the formation of clouds in the atmosphere; if so, increasing cosmic rays could affect weather and climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "because the suns magnetic field controls how many cosmic rays reach earths atmosphere (the stronger the suns magnetic field, the more it shields earth from incoming cosmic rays from space), the sun determines the temperature on earth.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "although they observe that a fraction of cloud nuclei is effectively produced by ionisation due to the interaction of cosmic rays with the constituents of earth atmosphere, this process is insufficient to attribute all of the present climate modifications to the fluctuations of the cosmic rays intensity modulated by changes in the solar activity and earth magnetosphere.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the minute changes in tsi is just a proxy for major changes in the sun, what affects our climate is the emission of cosmic rays.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there are people that dont think humans are to blame, and they almost all say co2 emissions are not causing the increase, that the warming is due to some other natural phenomenon (cosmic rays/clouds/sunspots/orbit).",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming space weather may have some indirect influence on the climate: cosmic rays are believed to play a role the formation of clouds.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming scientists have found the missing link from sunspot activity to cosmic rays-clouds to climate change,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming it simply states that cloud cover caused by cosmic rays may also play a part in climate change.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "its apparently temperature-dependent, which rules out cosmic rays from being the majority source.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming svensmark & friis-christensen i have some sympathy for as they actually publish science but its been shown repeatedly that their cosmic ray theory doesnt hold up to scrutiny and certainly doesnt explain warming as we see it.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming * the evidence for cosmic rays being a significant ingredient in climate change is now beyond doubt now that the mechanism has been reproduced in the lab twice by different teams with different equipment.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "we have no models that take into account the topsoil carbon accumulation, cloud albedo, the effects of solar activity and cosmic rays into cloud formation, and dozens of other phenomena that affect atmospheric temperature.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "report blames climate change on cosmic ray fluctuations and sunspot activity, drawing derision from climate scientists.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this has been **collaborated by a team at kobe university in japan,** which has furthered the finnish researchers theory: *""new evidence suggests that high-energy particles from space known as galactic cosmic rays affect the earths climate by increasing cloud cover, causing an umbrella effect",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming researchers at cern have even implicated unmeasured cosmic rays as a prime driver of climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "where in that article does it say that most climate change is due to ""cosmic rays and other shit"" or that the human impact on the environment is very, very low?",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "nevertheless, its probably plausible that at some points in earths history, cosmic rays might have penetrated the atmosphere with sufficient intensity to influence the terrestrial climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the first one, very clearly displayed and corrected the mistakes in his paper linking global warming and cosmic rays.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "all known natural factors affecting climate either act over much longer time periods (e.g., the shifting of continents over millions of years, or irregularities in the earths orbit in tens of thousands of years cycles), or have not changed significantly within the past few decades (solar radiation intensity, cosmic rays, volcanic activity).",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming sand deposits near the gobi desert in china may seem a strange place to look for evidence that cosmic rays can control how clouds are formed and the impact they have on earths climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "they firmly believe that solar radiation & is impacting cosmic rays, which in turn impacts cloud cover, which is driving temperature rise on earth.""",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cosmic rays can account for some climate phenomenon, but they are not a major factor.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming shaviv reviews the evidence which proves the existence and quantifies the physical mechanism linking between solar activity and climate galactic cosmic ray ionization of the atmosphere and its effect on cloud cover.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming ftfy: temperatures have been going the opposite way they would be going if the hypothesis that cosmic rays were controlling the climate via cloud formation was correct.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the most popular argument by far in favour of [the premise that there must be natural causes for warming] is the claim that changes in solar activity and/or cosmic rays (due to their effect on cloud formation) are responsible for climatic warming.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "sunlight, volcanic eruptions, cosmic rays, the solar system, atmospheric circulation, water vapor, and methane are all factors that affect temperatures more than carbon dioxide, but climate change theorists never mention it.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "just this week,scientists revealed that cosmic rays affect our climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming theres the lack of a link between cosmic rays and climate changes (which is a big part of the greenhouse effect).,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "or then they link you a theory from 2011, that planetary harmonics and as such cosmic rays have been creating more skies and thats the reason for the warming.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming theres been quite a bit of work done on cosmic rays being the dominating force behind climate change.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming scientists are speculating that galactic cosmic rays (high-energy particles from outside our solar system) may also affect the earths climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming research validates key role for cosmic rays in climate change,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "from the myriad of parameters like suns activity, multidecadal oceanic oscillation, milanchovich cycles and the earths orbit cycles, cosmic rays, etc its our 29 gigatons that change the climate!!",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there are other factors to consider too though, like cosmic rays and variations in ultraviolet solar output, but neither of those factors appears to hold much sway among the experts when it comes to their influence on global temperatures (beware of newspaper articles and climate denier blogs misrepresenting things though).",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "however, we do have pretty good records over at the neutron monitor database for cosmic ray flux going back decades and what weve seen is that temperature has risen even while cosmic ray flux has also risen.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "heres a good article (co2 reduction is mass murder) that makes the case that climate is largely governed by the axial tilt of the earth, fluctuations in solar output, and cosmic rays.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this has been collaborated by a team at kobe university in japan, which has furthered the finnish researchers’ theory: “new evidence suggests that high-energy particles from space known as galactic cosmic rays affect the earth’s climate by increasing cloud cover, causing an ‘umbrella effect",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "first line of abstract: the strength of earths magnetic dipole field controls galactic cosmic ray (gcr) flux, and gcr-induced cloud formation can affect climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming slightly more relevant but these sources are heavily focus on cosmic ray induced nucleation in earths atmosphere that may theoretically contribute to climate change.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cosmic rays cant be responsible for climate change, based upon c.) flawed scientific methods, correlated to d.) governmentally bestowed truths which, e.) are not publicly published or available for analysis or critique.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming do you know cern has shown us cosmic rays and clouds both have an effect on global climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "climate change is all about sun, weakening of earths magnetic shield and increases in cosmic rays.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there was also an interesting article published earlier this year, stating that something called cosmic rays may be contributing as much as 95% of the warming we have experienced over the past century or so.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "if the svensmark effect were the driving force behind the climate changes weve observed, we would expect an exponential increase in the galactic cosmic rays over the past 200 years.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming if you did youd see the massive problem with using cosmic rays to explain climate.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "thats not even about it being responsible for warming, thats about the entire hypothesis that cosmic rays are what cause cfcs to break down.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "as far as your erroneous interpretation of this article is concerned, it is clear your issues involve *confirmation bias* & *selective retention* because you missed the part about those cosmic rays worsening aerosols which which could have a role in climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "its the sun, its not happening, climate is hard, itscosmic rays, the ice sheets arent melting, its all natural ",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the umbrella effect caused by galactic cosmic rays is important when thinking about current global warming as well as the warm period of the medieval era.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "theories include that uv-radiation, energetic particles or cosmic rays influences climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming record high cosmic rays global warming narrative shift ,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming this causes a major increase of solar and cosmic rays which penetrate the earth and these have a major impact on climate and weather.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming you shouldnt be asking asking if greenhouse gasses or cosmic rays can explain temperature variation.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming theres also a hypothesis being chucked around for the last few decades that cosmic rays have a larger impact on climate than we might think.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "however, in parallel to the solar activity, cosmic rays have been largely stable in the last few decades and there is no correlation between them and the observed warming.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming *it has been suggested that galactic cosmic rays (gcrs) are a main factor controller of earths climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming galactic cosmic rays warming the planet.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming find me a couple of published scientific articles about cosmic rays being a significant contributor to global warming since about 1850 and ill eat crow.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "blaming recent historical floods on ""anthropogenic climate change"" which is unfortunate since its rather the high cosmic rays that are amplifying its effects.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "evidence for a link between the flux of galactic cosmic rays and earths climate during the past 200,000 years",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "if cosmic rays had a significant effect on climate, youd expect to see a decadal climate cyclicity associated with it.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "your ignorance shows on the aerosol paper because if you were even the least bit cognizant of the field you would know that almost all of the models ignore cloud cover, or treat it as a global value, yet cern has shown that cosmic rays from the sun induces cloud formation and impacts warming on the earth.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming see for example sloan and wolfendale who conclude that the contribution of solar activity and cosmic rays is less than 10% of the global warming seen in the 20th century.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the last link also states that cosmic rays arent responsible for the observed warming trend:,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "it was considered, investigated and found wanting cosmic rays fall cosmically behind humans in explaining global warming",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "danish physicist henrik svensmark has controversially argued that because solar variation modulates the cosmic ray flux on earth, they would consequently affect the rate of cloud formation and hence be an indirect cause of global warming",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cosmic rays *may* be related cloud formation, but they are unrelated to climate change because cloud cover is a feedback.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming and no cant agree there because cosmic rays have shown zero long-term effects on the climate.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "ive provided multiple articles which conclude cosmic rays are not a significant contributor to long-term global warming, and explained how the decadal oscillation and longer term trends of cosmic ray flux do not provide a good match with global observations of temperature since ca.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "new paper links cosmic rays, clouds, and temperature",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming even the cern scientists said this does not mean cosmic rays are a main driver of climate.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "solar flux, volcanism, cosmic rays and all other natural influences in the climate have all been ruled out since the early 90s.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "yet climate change, a global phenomena affected by our sun, our orbit, our tilt, galactic cosmic rays, as well as other poorly understood or all together missed influencers should be taken as perfectly understood fact",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "when galactic cosmic rays increase, so do low clouds, and when cosmic rays decrease clouds do as well, so climate warming may be caused by an opposite-umbrella effect",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "no forcing factor, be it changes in co2 concentration in the atmosphere or changes in cosmic ray flux modulated by solar activity and geomagnetism, or possibly other factors, can at present be neglected or shown to be the overwhelming single driver of climate change in past centuries.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming just 2 days later they put up an article by a junk scientists claiming that the sun and cosmic rays have no measurable impact on our climate even though the published research by svensmark and university of princeton have found that they both have a significant impact on the climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the contention that cosmic rays could provide the mechanism by which changes in solar activity affect climate is not supported by the literature.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming global warming is caused by cosmic rays and the sun - not humans,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "2005: ""during the last 30 years, neither total radiation intensity, nor solar uv radiation, nor cosmic ray flux have shown any significant long-term trend - so at least the recent phase of global warming must have some other cause.""",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "it obviously will depend on the model, but some of the things ignored in various models include cosmic rays impact on cloud formation, surface albedo, clouds themselves, the oceans ability to absorb heat (this has been a major one, and is the primary reason that we are seeing a pause in global temperature rises compared to the past; the ocean is absorbing the heat right now), ocean currents (if, for example, there is a shutdown or slowdown of thermohaline circulation), etc.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "it is not just the total solar flux that influences climate, it is also the coupling of the magnetic fields of the sun and earth and the effects that cosmic rays and other particles have on cloud nucleation.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming " ""when galactic cosmic rays increase, so do low clouds, and when cosmic rays decrease clouds do as well, so climate warming may be caused by an opposite-umbrella effect.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "despite svensmarks assertions, galactic cosmic rays have shown no statistically significant influence on changes in cloud cover and demonstrated to have no causal relationship to changes in global temperature.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "indeed, different authors have proposed a connection between periods of higher solar activity, thus lower gcr flux and warmer climate intervals over periods of 100-200 years and during the last millennia (usoskin et al., 2005) suggesting that effects induced by cosmic rays may affect longer-term changes in terrestrial climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming solar modulation of gcr [galactic cosmic rays] is translated down to the earth climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "id love to hear him talk or have a discussion on climate change currently, because ive seen an increasing ammount of people saying that climate change isnt a man made thing and a lot of people are pointing towards henrik svensmarks theory on solar-cosmic rays.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming this experiment doesnt really seem to contribute to climate modeling except to the extent that it can be used to refute the climate skeptics claim that cosmic rays are an unknown wildcard that invalidates existing models,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "he claims that cosmic rays are the cause behind ozone depletion, and cfcs are the cause of global warming, doing some absurd logical acrobatics and cherry-picking of data in the process.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays increasing for the 4th year in a row such an observations could enable to distinguish present epoch of global warming induced by dark matter incoming from centre of galaxy from changes in dark matter distribution induced by mutual constellation of planets.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "since solar output is down, and temperatures are up, and there isnt any correlation between cosmic rays and temperature",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming changes in cosmic rays were proposed at one point and have received serious attention but dont seem to be particularly correlated with recent warming.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "as it stands, increased cosmic rays making it to earth have no correlation with any type of warming trend: ",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming heres the website for an ongoing research project at cern which after a decade of research declared in a 2016 nature study that cosmic ray-enhanced nucleation is not a significant forcing of climate change.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming people read that cosmic rays effect climate and they conclude that that whole green-house-gas thing must have just been wrong.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the umbrella effect caused by galactic cosmic rays is important when thinking about current global warming as well as the warm period of the medieval era.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming most of my internet searches just turn up work by crackpots who use cosmic rays to explain away human-caused climate change.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays trigger climate change on earth by increasing cloud cover: study,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "thus, cosmic rays undoubtedly affect climate, and on geological time scales are the most dominant climate driver.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming personally i suspect that a causal correlation exists and its caused by the cloud hypothesis - less solar activity more cosmic rays hitting earth - more clouds less sunlight hitting the surface; temperature drops .,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there was a proposal that passing through the galactic disk caused cosmic rays to seed more clouds changing the climate, but it turns out not to be significant (cosmic ray theory of global warming gets cold response)",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "henrik svensmark proposed a theory that increased cosmic rays could promote cloud creation and stability, and showed some correlation will the 11-year solar variation cycle and cloud condensation, offering an explanation of why a decrease in solar activity hasnt caused a decrease in global temperature.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming and the most relevant thing which is completely destroying the svensmark hypothesis is that there is no correlation between the cosmic rays and the actual evolution of the earth temperature,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "they also discovered that cloud cover was the main cause of warming because it holds heat onto earths surface, and that cloud cover is caused by the amount of cosmic rays bombarding our atmosphere.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "we could try to negate the reduction of cloud formation due to the cyclical drop in cosmic rays by seeding clouds ourselves somehow, but that would mean researchers and media would need to admit man-made climate changes is horseshit.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the suns magnetic field and solar wind deflect as much as (if i remember correctly) 25% of the cosmic rays...and it would take only a 1% change to cloud cover to completely account for all temperature changes.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming that cosmic rays have a significant influence on climate until the additional nucleating vapours have been identified,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "especially when we have been told they are certain so many times only to hear - whoops, we forgot clouds� then whoops we forgot cosmic rays seeding clouds, then whoops we forgot algae or microbes deep underground while missing major trend predictions completely like the warming hiatus recently.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "a recent experiment proved that cosmic rays have an effect on cloud formation, which has a huge effect on climate (clouds reflect sunlight).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "anyway, this paper talks about a lot of nice correlations but there’s too little data to attribute climate changes to cosmic ray flux.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "even if cosmic rays can significantly influence climate, the recent trend in cosmic rays is the opposite of what it would need to be, to cause warming",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "second, for this to be a primary cause of the warming weve seen, cosmic rays would have to decrease, instead last year we hit the highest levels in 60 years and thus there should be more of a cooling effect.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the igl calcs show increasing co2 in the troposphere ie doubling from 400 to 800ppm wont result in increased warming; decreased cloud cover by 1% correlates all the warming since the 1970s replacing the co2 narrative, and increased solar energy correlates with reducing the influx of galactic cosmic rays -which correlate with the observed reduced cloud cover.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "no, cosmic rays arent causing global warming (unlike what a wuwt story recently claimed by lying the complete opposite of of the latest study on it has found)",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming here is prima facie evidence __for suspecting__ that much of the warming of the world during the 20th century was due to a reduction in cosmic rays and in low-cloud cover,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "urrently weaker em field allowing in more cosmic rays which are burning out our clouds, causing warmer climates",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming how can anyone claim humans are causing global warming after seeing this lecture on cosmic rays from a cern scientist?,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "furthermore, lu has written about the phenomenon of cosmic ray induced ozone depletion previously and predictions he made using that method failed to come through.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "none of this following data (the sun, urban heat island effects, clouds, cosmic rays, land use changes to name but a few) corresponds directly with global temperature rise.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the amount of cosmic rays reaching earth is largely controlled by the sun, and many solar scientists believe the stars indirect influence on earths global climate has been underestimated",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "why they dont address the recent period is quite simple: we have measurements of galactic cosmic rays going back to the 1950s and they indicate, if anything, an increase (meaning a slight cooling influence) while temperatures have continued upwards.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "we should have been cooling for a while (or at least not warming), if temps were being driven by variation in solar activity and/or cosmic rays.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "it is conjectured that this mechanism could be the explanation for the observed correlations between past climate variations and cosmic rays, modulated by either solar activity.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this paper postulates cosmic rays as the cause of an event lasting about 5000 years, which is far too slow compared to the pace of climate change today.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "a simple observation should be enough to destroy the whole premise: we have not observed significant changes in cosmic rays over the past 50 years, yet temperatures have been rising rapidly.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "a recent experiment proved that cosmic rays have an effect on cloud formation, which has a huge effect on climate (clouds reflect sunlight).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "second, any natural warming events - whether driven by solar cycles, earth orbital changes, cosmic rays, etc - is a top-down heating.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming research cosmic rays and sun activity and all the discussion about human-made climate change is obsolete anyway.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "in 1998, anticipating hed be leading a path-breaking experiment into the suns role in global warming, he made the mistake of stating that the sun and cosmic rays ""will probably be able to account for somewhere between a half and the whole of the increase in the earths temperature that we have seen in the last century.""",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "by the way, i searched several pages of scientific journal searches of cosmic ray effects on climate, and not a single one came to the conclusion that the effects were significant or did anything to explain recent warming in this century.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "if solar minimum leads to more cosmic rays which reduces temps, then you just disproved your own global warming theory",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cosmic rays can cause a nucleation of tiny droplets - but its questionable, whether this effect increases the global warming (with increased absorption of light with clouds) or its suppressing it (by reflection of heat from clouds).",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "that said, i will concede that it seems likely the world in warming (we might simply be emerging from the little ice age), so records are going to fall, but it probably has more to do with orbital oscillations, changes in solar output, and probably some other exotic things (like cloud generating cosmic rays for instance) than it does to anthropogenic co2.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "if i recall correctly, there was some theoretical work published a while ago that suggested cosmic ray intensity can somehow contribute to cloud formation and thereby affect the planets climate, and that the level of radiation varies depending on where the earth is in its orbit around the galactic core.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cern finds cosmic rays ""significantly"" responsible for climate change.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming randomizer: cern experiment finds possible link between cosmic rays and climate change,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming i dont think there is any viable research about the global climate implications of cosmic ray cloud formation (for now).,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "theres no doubt that the predictions of doom and gloom are not working out for the ipcc despite being peer-reviewed so theyre not exactly an unbiased or trustworthy group - and since they dont consider all aspects of climate into their models like cosmic rays and the clouds instead of focusing solely on co2, they have become a political organization cherry-picking data and spinning it into pseudoscience conclusions.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "greater than 70% of the greenhouse effect is caused by moisture clouds, clouds form as a result of atmospheric moisture, the right temperature, and cosmic rays...",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "new, convincing evidence indicates global warming is caused by cosmic rays and the sun, not humans",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "a number of scientists - quite reputable ones, i have to say - argue that global temperature hasnt increased all that much (if at all) since 1998 and that might be consonant with trends in solar output and cosmic rays.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cosmic rays have no impact on cloud formation, and therefore no impact on temperature.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming alarmists are silent on this; could it be because cosmic rays tend to increase cloud cover on earth and cool the climate,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "while it makes perfects sense that ions from cosmic rays form condensation nuclei, this does not mean that it has a discernible effect on the climate.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming new paper corroborates the solar-cosmic ray theory of climate,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the cosmic ray model can increase global warming and droughts in the same way, like it can prohibit it.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this led the study to conclude, ""...during these last 30 years the solar total irradiance, solar uv irradiance and cosmic ray flux has not shown any significant secular trend, so that at least this most recent warming episode must have another source.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "and the observed trend didnt continue past 2003, additionally the radiation that is increasing is from cosmic rays which arent necessarily the same as solar radiation and dont cause the temperature to increase",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "new evidence suggests that high-energy particles from space known as galactic cosmic rays affect the earths climate by increasing cloud cover, causing an ""umbrella effect.""",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the result boosts our theory that cosmic rays coming from the galaxy are directly involved in the earths weather and climate says henrik svensmark, lead author of the new report.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "you have *seen* cosmic rays cause global warming, but cant talk about it?",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "he then re-hashes some long-discarded alternative theories for global warming, from increasing solar irradiance (we are currently in an unprecedented solar minimum, so this theory has been abandoned for quite some time) and cosmic rays (which show some theoretical effects but there is almost no physical evidence for it) and then states *oh so generously* that ""there have been indications that the variation of solar quantities cannot explain the drastic global surface temperature rise (~0.6 c) in the late half of the last century"".",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the researcher says the co2 plays little role in global temperature changes and that cosmic rays along with cfcs have played the biggest role in ozone depletion.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming but ive yet to see a compelling case from anyone that global warming is solely based off the sun or cosmic rays or whatever else theyre claiming these days.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the latest papers on the role of solar particles and cosmic rays, especially in the context of a significantly weakened magnetosphere, make very compelling cases for that combination of circumstances to be the most likely driver for climate change.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming that cosmic rays are climate driver comparable to co2.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "another approach is to invent some other reason for the observed warming - for instance there have been attempts to blame it on galactic cosmic rays (svensmark, long debunked)",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "as the link points out, if anything, cosmic ray activity should be cooling the climate.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming excellent in-depth essay that debunks manmade global warming model in favor of cosmic ray model,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this ""svensmark effect"" has not been previously supported by evidence (climate myths its all down to cosmic rays), and there is no downward trend of cosmic rays coinciding with the observed temperature rise.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "by 1996, friis-christensen and svensmark published, ""variation of cosmic ray flux and global cloud coverage � a missing link in solar-climate relationships.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cosmic rays, dust from space, and solar flares all create clouds which changes the climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "we dont observe any significant correlations between cosmic rays and cloud cover, or between cosmic rays and short-term temperature fluctuations.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "similarly, the recent trend in cosmic rays is the opposite of what it would need to be, to cause warming",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming earths climate is subject to lots of insanely complicated processes (it was even suggested that things like galactic cosmic rays could influence our climate).,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the paper has been severely criticized by other scientists, and shaviv was also proven wrong on [the cosmic ray connection (nope cosmic rays still not driving global warming continued).",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming which are the actual cause of global warming (along with cosmic rays).,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming variation of cosmic ray flux and global cloud coverage� missing link in solar-climate relationships,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the video you reference is talking about cosmic rays possible effect on the climate, but there has never been shown good evidence for this theory.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming global warming caused by galactic cosmic rays: new evidence,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming > the cosmic rays are responsible for changes in climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming there is recent data from kobe university in japan that suggests that climate change is caused by a not yet well understood phenomenon that involves cosmic rays and cloud coverage.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "however, it is premature to conclude that cosmic rays have a significant influence on climate until the additional nucleating vapours have been identified, their ion enhancement measured, and the ultimate effects on clouds have been confirmed.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming except that cosmic ray flux has been shown over and over again to not be a part of the climate system (and if they are it is very very small).,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the source may be far away but cosmic rays have effects on our climate, our health and seismic activity.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "so the idea that cosmic rays can help aerosols form seems to be a good one, but there is not a direct causative link between that and the current climate.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming henrick svensmark has shown independently confirmed by cloud experiment at cern (breaking news cern experiment confirms cosmic rays influence climate change) that cosmic rays from inter-galactic supernovae affect earths climate,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "while the mechanism is *theoretically* possible, there has been no observable correlation between the amount of cosmic rays hitting the earth and global temperature.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "well that didnt take long: skeptical science debunks svensmarks cosmic ray theory of global warming, which was posted on reddit recently",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "but if cern explicitly says their data shows that cosmic rays do not significantly contribute to climate change, and you claim that its not true and that they just would not dare go against the ipcc, then you are saying they lied about their data.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "look at the cosmic ray data, it hit a peak around 1950-1960 and has been slowly declining since then (of course this is superimposed on the decadal cycle)",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "when you question a link between galactic cosmic rays and climate, you have to be willing to accept the possibility that long-term satellite data will show no detectable correlation whatsoever between gcrs and climate and that other processes are far more important than gcrs for nucleating aerosols",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "im pretty sure ive mentioned lockwoods group and its recent work to you several times, as a mainstream counterexample to cranks like corbyn and the ""cosmic rays drive climate"" nutters.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "hypothetically, an increasing solar magnetic field could deflect galactic cosmic rays, which hypothetically seed low-level clouds, thus decreasing the earths reflectivity and causing global warming.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "one more time: oceans, natural cycles, clouds, cosmic rays, and the sun have absolutely no effect on climate.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "* suns role is still uncertain, the direct tsi changes have been shown to not be sufficient to explain the warming, but indirect effects such as cosmic ray influence on cloud nucleation can have a much larger effect (i have no idea if they will, but the matter is being researched).",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming a few million years ago there was a massive spike in cosmic rays and temperature did absolutely nothing.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming he contends that solar and cosmic rays alone can account for the majority of the warming seen starting in the 2nd half of the 20th century up to today.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming galactic cosmic rays contribute to global warming.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming svensmark claimed a robust physical mechanism to explain how cosmic ray flux affects long-term temperature trends:,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the evidence for a link between cosmic rays and climate is very weak, making it very unlikely to be a cause of recent warming.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "one would, however, have to be a complete moron to think its possible to reverse that to imply cause can never be inferred from evidence, which is what you would have to do in order to suggest that the decades of co2 measurements, temperature measurements, climate studies, solar studies, cosmic ray studies, and effectively the entirety of an science populated by researchers, any one of whom would need to suffer a nearly-fatal head injury to start agree with you, is not enough evidence to determine that the most rapid change in temperature that we have ever seen is the result of dumping co2 into the atmosphere at before-unseen rates.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the only name that i can find attached to it is that of prof. nir j. shaviv, an astrophysicist whose current pet theory is that cosmic rays are the cause of warming - a claim that has been widely discredited since at least 2008",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming his constant failure to address the milankovitch cycle and the decrease in activity of the galactic center as determined through core samples of cosmic ray activity shows conclusively that bill nye and indeed half of his cheerleaders havent the faintest idea about the real mechanisms behind climate change.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the point, as we can see with the above link, is demonstrating an effect on temperature via cosmic rays doesnt represent a correlation with global warming as a modern trend.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "svensmark is one of several scientists outspokenly opposed to the mainstream scientific assessment of global warming, leading to concerns that the proposition that cosmic rays are connected to global warming could be ideologically biased rather than scientifically based.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "scientists claim cosmic rays influence cloud cover, climate change",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "also theres that little thing called science where in detailed studies even the people who proposed that cosmic rays were correlated with temperature, actually found that it was correlated with precipitation instead.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "when scientists see spikes in beryllium-10, during periods of intense cosmic rays as a result of a weak magnetic field, they do not see a correlating temperature increase.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming changes in galactic cosmic ray (gcr) flux have been proposed by some as the main factor controlling earths climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "when galactic cosmic rays increase, so do low clouds, and when cosmic rays decrease clouds do as well, so climate warming may be caused by an opposite-umbrella effect.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "during these last 30 years the solar total irradiance, solar uv irradiance and cosmic ray flux has not shown any significant secular trend, so that at least this most recent warming episode must have another source.""",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming variation of cosmic ray flux and global cloud coverage missing link in solar-climate relationships,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "according to an article by lawrence solomon, cern scientists...have done what global warming doomsayers said could never be done--demonstrate that cosmic rays can seed clouds, and that the more that cosmic rays reach earth�atmosphere, the cloudier it will be.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the main thesis: that the presence or absence of cosmic rays in earths atmosphere is a better explanation for temperature variation than the concentration of co2,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "but some of the warming is almost certainly caused by the large increase in solar activity is causing some of the warming, some directly and some indirectly (svensmarks cosmic ray hypothesis).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the next grand solar minimum, cosmic rays and earth changes climate change grand solar minimum and cosmic rays",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "you probably got downvoted because rawls cherry-picked what he released, and other parts of the leak report *clearly* state that any cosmic ray effect is much too weak to explain the observed warming.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "however, it is premature to conclude that cosmic rays have a significant influence on climate until the additional nucleating vapours have been identified, their ion enhancement measured, and the ultimate effects on clouds have been confirmed.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming they discovered that the net increase of average temperature is caused by an increase in cloud cover that was caused by an increase in cosmic rays bombarding the earths atmosphere.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "research published in the prestigious journal nature: new, convincing evidence indicates global warming is caused by cosmic rays and the sun � not humans.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "by contrast, the hypothesis that changes in cloudiness obedient to cosmic rays help to force climate change predicts a distinctive signal that is in fact very easily observed, as an exception that proves the rule.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "proven not to account for global warming, as cosmic rays have been decreasing in intensity.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming it shows that cosmic rays can influence the climate by causing clouds to form and impacting the global weather patterns like the indian monsoon.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "i refer to cosmic ray theory on the influence of earths temperatures because its the most criticized, but every criticism has been proved wrong by svensmark and his brilliant team of talented scientists and researchers.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming solar modulation of gcr galactic cosmic rays is translated down to the earth climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming this debate is not over how much cosmic rays influence the climate (again the implication being that the link has already been established and its just a question of degree).,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming thats cosmic rays warming the planet.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "when galactic cosmic rays increase, so do low clouds, and when cosmic rays decrease clouds do as well, so climate warming may be caused by an opposite-umbrella effect, said masayuki hyodo professor at the university research center for inland seas.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "its not humans, its cosmic rays",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "again, since observed solar activity has been decreasing (not increasing) in recent decades, the trend in cosmic rays has also been the opposite of what it would need to be, to cause warming.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the hypothesis that cosmic rays and the sun hold the key to the global warming debate has been enemy no 1,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the theory is still not completely proven, but so far the changes in cosmic ray intensity correlate well with changes in climate, and the cern experiment proves that cosmic rays influence cloud nucleation.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cosmic rays have been increasing recently, which (according to theory) would increase cloud cover and reduce temperatures.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming and they are actually one of the reasons we know that it isnt changes in cosmic rays causing global warming.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "study shows cfcs, cosmic rays major culprits for global warming",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "it even has a handy list of all the climate myths which denialists constantly trot out, like warming pauses, cosmic rays, or solar activity.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic ray variance doesnt line up with observed warming.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there is no correlation between solar/cosmic ray activity and the current warming (which, according to you, isnt there anyway, right?)",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming from the abstract: a brief review of resent understanding of solar - geomagnetic field influence on climate shows that the main role in this process is played by galactic cosmic rays.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "so if cosmic rays enhanced cloud production, there would be a global cooling, not warming.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "new evidence suggests that high-energy particles from space known as galactic cosmic rays affect the earths climate by increasing cloud cover, causing an umbrella effect,"" the just published study has found, a summary of which has been released in the journal science daily.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "if youre not posing the cloud cosmic ray connection as a proxy for so-called climate scientists are part of a socialist conspiracy to raise their own taxes - then forgive me, as that is the most common context i have encountered it in.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "i found this paper, if you look at figure 5, since about 1960, the cosmic ray flux fits the temperature trend pretty well until about 1960, with cosmic ray flux increasing with increasing temperature, but after about 1960 the cosmic ray flux isnt exhibiting a directional trend but temperatures continue going up.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming it seems to me that if a jr high school student can win a science fair by building a cloud chamber that proves the existence of cosmic rays.......our world wide scientific community could provide a simple experiment proving that man made co2 is responsible for climate change.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the cosmic rays are responsible for changes in climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays do not explain global warming.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming and the reason i didnt provide any papers dealing with cosmic rays and long-term global warming is because i couldnt find any published after cmip-6 using their data.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "nir shaviv, i think, pushes the idea that long term variations in cosmic rays drive climate change.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming winter monsoons became stronger during geomagnetic reversal - revealing the impact of cosmic rays on the earths climate,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "yeah well speaking of that video i clicked through it, seems to go on about the cosmic rays point that ive heard 1000 times, this will do for now as rebuttal",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "hes a meteorologist who went on the climate denial circuit 20 years ago, lost all scientific credibility and managed to somehow publish 3 papers in which he claims that cosmic rays are the main driver of climate change via cloud formation.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the cosmic ray climate connection is a perrenial favorite on the denial circuit.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there are many more variables at play here that are influencing the climate than just co2, a few others are for example: the sun, the tilt of the earth, atmospheric dust, cosmic rays, water vapor, reflectivity, cow farts.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming your comment has enough straw men to block the solar flares/cosmic rays/whatever that you think causes climate change.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "in fact, this is part of how we know global warming isnt being caused by the sun or cosmic rays.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cosmic rays directly influence the climate, you just have to account for the 25 year lag caused by the thermal inertia of the oceans (two sources in my post) and also look at the effects of cosmic rays on the hemisphere experiencing summer at a given time.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cosmic rays dont cause an increase in temperature, the produce a reduction in temperatures.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "that is not 100% true - first of all since this paper is just a very small step on a long path to prove that there is any actual link (and most likely that path will find that the cosmic rays effects in cloud formation are dwarfed by other much stronger effects), and second since the climate models tend to handle the clouds more like a long-time trend - at most any model changes will first go to weather models.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "new evidence suggests that high-energy particles from space known as galactic cosmic rays affect the earths climate by increasing cloud cover, causing an ""umbrella effect.""",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "its doubtul that astronomy will yield another evidence suggests cosmic rays have little effect on cloud formation forcing, and our catalog of atmospheric chemistry seems just as complete.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "unfortunately, this interesting scientific theory has been abused by some people to suggest that global warming is not due to anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions, and is instead a result of a trend towards a quiescent stellar environment where a decrease in galactic cosmic ray flux is enabling a less-cloudy world.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the climate in the antarctic stratosphere has been completely controlled by cfcs and cosmic rays, with no co2 impact.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "finally, it has been proposed that cosmic rays might influence earths climate by modifying cloud properties (shaviv, 2002; svensmark, 1998, 2006) or through a variety of other mechanisms (gray et al., 2005).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "henrik svensmark had lots of trouble publishing his paper linking cosmic rays to climate change, even with experiments and mountains of evidence and charts, and he barely got it published when they finally caved.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the umbrella effect caused by galactic cosmic rays is important when thinking about current global warming as well as the warm period of the medieval era.”""",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming lets assume cosmic rays and the sun are the driving force behind global warming.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "new paper finds robust relationship between cosmic rays and global temperature, corroborates svensmarks solar-cosmic ray theory of climate",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "given the immense amount of bs spouted by ""skeptics"" about the cern cloud experiment showing cosmic rays were driving climate change, i wonder whether they will ignore this altogether, move the goalposts to something else, or claim that cloud is now part of the conspiracy as well.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "galactic cosmic rays are the #1 contributor to global warming, and their frequency has been accelerating along side the magnetic poles shifting, which coincidentally has been accelerating since around 2000, which is driven by the flow of the liquid core, which according to this article has also been accelerating since around 2000, which unironically is when al gore decided it was us that was the problem.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming sky experiment demonstrates link between cosmic rays and condensation nuclei -> strong link between solar activity and global warming.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the solar cycle (via galactic cosmic rays) controls cloud formation, and thus, temperature.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming except we have studies showing that at most cosmic rays play a very small role (max 10% of the total) in global warming today (cosmic rays not causing climate change),Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "it is scientific fact, however, that the basis for all weather and climate is the interaction between solar wind and cosmic rays.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming climate change caused by cosmic rays does not preclude anthropogenic global warming.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming even though there is more research on global warming than any other scientific field in the history of humanity - you have dis-proven everything based on the notion that cosmic rays can cause cloud nuclei - hmmmmmm questions,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "from journal physics reports ""... observations that from 1950 up to now, the climate in the arctic and antarctic atmospheres has been completely controlled by cfcs and cosmic rays, with no co2 impact""",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming pierce and adams (2009) use calculations to show that potential impacts on clouds from cosmic rays and conclude that the hypothesized effect is too small to play a significant role in current climate change,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "if cosmic rays were important to climate, we would expect to see a corresponding major swing in temperature, but **the ice core shows no change during the period of enhanced cosmic ray bombardment 40,000 years ago.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "calling cosmic rays a source of global warming is like saying youre too warm because someone two miles away turned on a lightbulb, when in reality youre standing outside in summer with a coat on.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the conclusion of ""galactic cosmic rays cant explain global warming"" is absolute pure and total bunkum because it assumes that either gcrs are responsible for the majority/all of climate change or it has no impact at all.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming back in the 1990s he found correlations between cosmic ray influx and climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "so to recap - yes co2 is the cause, co2 isnt always the result of climate change, and changes in cosmic rays or solar activity are actually what have next to no impact on our climate.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the reason for climate change is entirely due to the output of the sun and the amount of cosmic rays striking the atmosphere.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming i see cosmic rays impacting climate at least 2 different ways.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the new findings point to cosmic rays and the sun �not human activities as the dominant controller of climate on earth.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming strong evidence that svensmark solar-cosmic ray theory of climate is correct,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the article specifically mentions the current trend in cosmic rays is leading to a global cooling effect, which obviously isnt enough to counter the global warming trend.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming my position is that the weight of the scientific evidence shows cosmic rays to be probably a minor factor in recent global warming.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "no, it mostly sorts by date, but other factors such as the weather, time, temperature, your current mental capabilities, and cosmic rays have a very small, often unnoticed, impact",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "you can go on putting your faith in untested theories about cosmic rays and clouds, but *right now* the science does support a reasonable cause for concern - which is why even the pentagon sees global warming as a threat.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "climate change skeptics will minimize the importance of manmade ghgs and assume a large role in cosmic rays, geo-magnetic flux, solar magnetic flux, total solar irradiation (tsi) and cloud formation.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "unless climate change has little to nothing to do with human activity, and is actually more of an effect of space weather from the sun and cosmic rays on our planet.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "in addition to trace gasses, i expect that the oceans, and possibly cosmic rays/solar phenomenon, have a significant influence on temperature.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "no, it just means that global warming is caused by sunspots even though its actually caused by natural cycles, cosmic rays, and enso is caused by underwater volcanoes.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "climate is mostly changed by external factors like the sun , cosmic rays and the elecro magnetic shielding.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "a european parliament report that blames climate change on cosmic ray fluctuations, sunspots and planetary gravitational pulls, is so hackneyed and ill-informed it would �make the dinosaurs blush climate scientists say.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "again, it does not state cosmic rays are a possible culprit of why our climate is having severe issues.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "or some solar cycle, or some cosmic ray cycle.. and at least those claims are specific.. but the denialists dont get specific anymore, cuase when they do, we test those claims, like sun spots and cosmic rays and find out that no.. you cant use those claims to explain the current warming.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming heres a 1 minute explanation of how galactic cosmic rays affect earths climate:,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "now, if they would spend the money to study the sun, id bet theyd find a lot more ways in which the sun contributes to polar warming (cosmic ray flux, the fact that the ionosphere is constantly charged at the poles and changing the chemical composition of the lower atmosphere as a consequence, the fact that for large stretches of the year the sun is either gone or always there in the poles, leading to massive transfer of energy ",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the climate-change cooling over the 1940-1975 time period of the modern warming period was shown to be influenced by a combination of solar factors.the cause of the medieval warm period and the little ice age climate-changes was the solar magnetic field and cosmic ray connection.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming or - we can go back to the record and see that the link between cosmic rays and temperature has been debunked.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "once again, the cosmic rays drive climate change canard is shown to be without merit.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming why solar activity and cosmic rays cant explain global warming,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming heres a story on a recent study linking cosmic rays to climate change from a university in denmark.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming researching into solar irradiance and cosmic rays made me believe anthropomorphic climate change is mostly bullshit.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "as this posts excellent video explains, there is a direct connection between our planets climate, the sun and the rest of the solar system, and the galaxy, which ultimately is the source for fluctuating levels of cosmic rays, which then interact with the cloud systems of earth to regulate planetary temperatures.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming """sunlight, volcanic eruptions, cosmic rays, the solar system, atmospheric circulation, water vapor, and methane are all factors that affect temperatures more than carbon dioxide, but climate change theorists never mention it.""",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "thats not really how the temperature lag effect works, and there is still no association between cosmic rays and the overall warming trend over the past few decades.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "examples include, but are not limited to: its the sun, its not happening, climate is hard, its cosmic rays, the ice sheets arent melting, its all natural, co2 is good for plants, co2 is only a trace gas, its actually cooling, models are wrong... or some other gormless twaddle.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "that article says nothing about it humans having no impact, only that they found evidence supporting the hypothesis that the cosmic rays can influence the climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming new research suggests cosmic ray radiation affects climate change,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "it will take some time before a cosmic ray affecting the weather causes branching in your conscious experience - in fact, even though i know the weather, atmosphere and climate is a highly non-linear dynamic system, its not so obvious to me that this *ever* happens in response to an individual superposed particle state decohering, but i may be wrong about that.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the implication was that they should on no account endorse the danish heresy henrik svensmarks hypothesis that most of the global warming of the 20th century can be explained by the reduction in cosmic rays due to livelier solar activity, resulting in less low cloud cover and warmer surface temperatures.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "and, cloud cover is strongly impacted by solar activity, cosmic rays, and changes in the earths electromagnetic field, a recent paper by some finn scientists suggest there is no such thing as man-made co2 climate change because the effects of cloud cover overwhelm any impact the co2 changes may have.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming there are aspects of the sun other than total solar irradiance/solar spectral irradiance and galactic cosmic ray modulation that are relevant to the climate systems of earth,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "in addition to trace gasses, i expect that the oceans, and possibly cosmic rays/solar phenomenon, have a significant influence on temperature.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming indian study shows climate change is probably caused by natural factors: most of the observed temperature fluctuations could be attributed to cosmic rays,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cosmic rays are massive particles (mostly atomic nuclei) of debated origin zipping through space at near-light speeds, and probably have a neglibible total impact on the earths temperature.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "of course the warmers are once again the real deniers here, denying that cosmic rays have appreciable effect on cloud formation or climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the royer et al (2004) paper they cite is about the question of whether cosmic ray flux might be responsible for global warming, rather than co2.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "no - looking into it showed cosmic ray effects not correlated with temperature, more to precipitation.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming aside from vague cosmic rays (which would be very easy to demonstrate using particle detection data correlating to global temperature records over decades) you have no mechanistic hypothesis for how sun has increased the warming of the earth without increasing its output.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "theyve been measuring cosmic ray flux since the 1950s, and as far as anyone can find there is no correlation, either direct or negative, between crf and global temperatures.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "demonstrating causality is not the same as demonstrating that its the only cause of global temperature change, which is why your article you previously linked to said not to misconstrue the data as disagreeing with the findings on global warming: cosmic rays arent causing global warming, regardless of their effect on global temperature.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "thats if all of our warming today is 100% due to the increase in co2 and none of it is false reporting, adjustment error, urban heat island effect, cosmic rays, change in cloudiness, or a natural warming out of the little ice age.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "despite a lot of noise, changes in cosmic rays have had little impact on climate",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the cosmic climate connection: cosmic rays could have helped cause global warming,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming go read the paper that cosmic rays cause climate change.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays and solar activity is the cause of climate change!,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "svensmarks theory that temperate correlates cosmic rays is confirmed in data in ranges from hundreds to millions of years from multiple independent datasets: ice record, geologic record, astronomy",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "it is unproven whether the climate change you noticed is due to human actions, random fluctuation, cosmic rays or , indeed something else.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "* cosmic rays and clouds, so therefore, global warming",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming or cosmic rays have a larger impact on the earths climate:,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming strong evidence that svensmarks solar-cosmic ray theory of climate is correct,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays influence the atmospheric processes and climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "real progress on the cosmic ray-climate question will require a physical mechanism to be established, or else ruled out.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "yall cant just jump to saying that cosmic ray flux is a significant in talking about modern-day climate change; the paper isnt mechanistic, its just observing a phenomenon.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming now at s solar minimum we can see an increase of cosmic rays penetrating the atmosphere which scientists deem to cause an increase in cloud cover but the effect on climate is minimal and does not reduce the drastic warming caused by man made pollution.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "in this case, the solar cycle affects earths protection from high-energy extrasolar cosmic rays, which [mumble mumble] climate change.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming your own source says it is unlikely that cosmic rays have any affect on weather or climate.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming there was a study published by the japanese suggesting that climate change is primarily caused by the umbrella effect from cosmic rays.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the cosmic ray theory does not match to reality because, even as weve experienced decades of decreasing sun activity, temperature rise has continued to happen.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "by bombarding the earth with cosmic rays and being a driving force behind cloud formations, the sun plays a much larger role on climate than ""consensus scientists"" care to admit.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "of course, to show that cosmic rays were actually responsible for some part of the recent warming, you would need to show that there was actually a decreasing trend in cosmic rays over recent decades, which is tricky, because there hasnt been.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "noone is claiming that the changes in tsi are driving climate, but its rather an indirect effect that the sun causes via either the changes in uv radiation, or its effect on cosmic rays.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "prof steve sherwood, a director of the climate change research centre at the university of new south wales, told abc radio in australia: ""you could go and read those paragraphs yourself and the summary of it and see that we conclude exactly the opposite, that this cosmic ray effect that the paragraph is discussing appears to be negligible, its a pretty severe case of cherry-picking, because even the sentence doesnt say what [climate sceptics] say and certainly if you look at the context, were really saying the opposite.""",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "since none of these include cosmic rays, 97% of climate scientists agree that these few contrarian physicists must be wrong.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "climate sceptics have identified one section of the draft as suggesting that cosmic rays have a greater influence on warming than had previously been claimed, but professor steve sherwood, the lead author of the chapter in question, said the idea that the chapter suggests a greater role for solar and other cosmic rays in global warming is ridiculous.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "almost everyone on reddit still believes in anthropogenic global climate warming change, even though sunspot vs temperature, and cosmic ray flux vs temperature show lockstep movement.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "sunspots and cooling earth temperatures; mini ice age 2015-2035 11.5 min 2014 | adapt 2030 sunspots indicate solar wind, which blocks cosmic rays, which promote cloud cover, thus increased albedo",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays dont offer an explanation for recent global warming (pierce 2017):,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "climate is mostly changed by external factors like the sun , cosmic rays and the elecro magnetic shielding.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the results also show that ionisation of the atmosphere by cosmic rays accounts for nearly one-third of all particles formed, although small changes in cosmic rays over the solar cycle do not affect aerosols enough to influence todays polluted climate significantly.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "not only is there no evidence that cosmic rays actually modulate cloud formation and impact climate, even if such a phenomenon *did* exist, it wouldnt factor into our current understanding of future climate at all.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming afaik this stipulates that cosmic rays are a *factor* in global warming.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this has been **collaborated by a team at kobe university in japan,** which has furthered the finnish researchers theory: *""new evidence suggests that high-energy particles from space known as galactic cosmic rays affect the earths climate by increasing cloud cover, causing an umbrella effect",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "even if cosmic rays and clouds do affect global warming, it will be some minor, unaccounted for difference as the current models already fit the data well enough without taking those into account.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "no, cosmic rays arent causing global warming",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming galactic cosmic rays seem to be very important drivers of the earths climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "moreover, a plausible mechanism by which cosmic rays might influence climate has not been demonstrated.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the lack of correlation between cosmic rays and temperature is not due to lag.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming here is prima facie evidence for suspecting that much of the warming of the world during the 20th century was due to a reduction in cosmic rays and in low-cloud cover.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "either way all this push of more and more unrelated crap-science does not change the most important facts related to this story - neither tsi nor cosmic ray levels (nor the earth albedo) show any significant trend during the last 50 years, while the temperature does, and that trend is perfectly correlated with forcings from co2 and aerosols!",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "because my understanding is that warming, not cooling, produces more ozone and cosmic rays are associated with cooling periods not warming.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "american thinker: new study finds that cosmic rays, solar activity have much greater impact on earths climate than models suggest",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "and because solar activity has been decreasing, the recent trend in cosmic rays is the opposite of what it would need to be, to cause warming",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "when galactic cosmic rays increase, so do low clouds, and when cosmic rays decrease clouds do as well, so climate warming may be caused by an opposite-umbrella effect.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "i said that lus paper claims there is a connection between cosmic rays, cfcs, ozone and climate, that in fact does not exist according to every other scientist on the planet, and that lil ol pesky reality of the observational record.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming your own source says it is unlikely that cosmic rays have any affect on weather or climate.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming watch this documentary about henrick svensmarks work showing how cosmic rays produce clouds which controls out climate...,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the ""cosmic rays drive climate"" hypothesis, as put forth by people like svensmark and shaviv, and cheered by people on this subreddit, has been debunked from essentially every possible line of evidence.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the biggest reason the climate has been changing imo is because of how much fucking trees we cut down and how much of the ocean we used as a toilet not co2 and cern is showing us in its cloud project that cosmic rays have a lot more to do with our climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "if its a subject youre interested in you should consider reading up on henrik svensmarks theory of the impact cosmic rays have on the earths climate, and his recent cloud experiment.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "his study, while interesting, doesnt really show that changes in cosmic rays are responsible for the observed warming.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming evidence is presented from which the contributions of either cosmic rays or solar activity to this warming is deduced.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "as a result of this and other work, the intergovernmental panel on climate change state that no robust association between changes in cosmic rays and cloudiness has been identified.""",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming at the present time we can not say whether cosmic rays affect the climate.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming flash news: new paper reveals that gcrs (galactic cosmic rays) could be the major cause for global warming and human impact on global warming might be lesser than previously thought.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming its cosmic rays and energy from the sun coupled with earths magnetic field which are controlling most of the rise and fall of earths surface temperature.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming these scientists say cosmic ray radiation has an effect on climate change,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "new, convincing evidence indicates global warming is caused by cosmic rays and the sun not humans",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming secondly there is no known mechanisms for cosmic rays to impact climate.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the sun is where the real change seems to be coming from, solar climate forcing and cosmic rays have far more affect than our emissions.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "a significant fraction of nucleation involves ions, but the relatively weak dependence on ion concentrations indicates that for the processes studied variations in cosmic ray intensity do not significantly affect climate via nucleation in the present-day atmosphere.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming documentary: the cloud mystery -- explains the theory that cosmic rays drive the climate,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "theres no doubt that the predictions of doom and gloom are not working out for the ipcc despite being peer-reviewed so theyre not exactly an unbiased or trustworthy group - and since they dont consider all aspects of climate into their models like cosmic rays and the clouds instead of focusing solely on co2, they have become a political organization cherry-picking data and spinning it into pseudoscience conclusions.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "of course climate change is real, but the point is that humans have little to do with it (compared to cosmic rays and sun activity, for example).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming and no�I cant agree there because cosmic rays have shown zero long-term effects on the climate.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the paper says nothing about whether cosmic rays have actually been driving climate.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming they talk about how the ipcc failed to include the influence of cosmic rays on cloud formation and temperature because they didnt understand it.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming study (open access) | evidence against a long-term control on earth climate by galactic cosmic ray flux,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "recently a new mechanism of climate modulation, based on cosmic ray variations and ozone production in low stratosphere near the tropopause, has been discovered.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming another strong argument against the hypothesis of a major contribution of cosmic rays to ongoing climate change,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "so instead, here is every criticism of the link between global warming and cosmic rays, because in the scientific community, from my research, its seen as utter bullshit, dont take my word for it though, heres everything.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the study concluded that the cosmic ray rate did not match the changes in temperature, indicating that it was not a causal relationship.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming climate change is not caused by cosmic rays,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "climate models dont account for cosmic rays, thermomagnetic coupling, or solar wind.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "his report mentions ""cosmic ray fluctuations and gravitational pulls from elsewhere in the galaxy, sunspot activity ..."" none of which has any effect on the earths climate.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "very few, if any, climate models actually take into account cosmic ray flux modulation, solar proton events, coronal holes, the kp index and a vasy wealth of other metrics.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "(carbon 14 is primarily generated by cosmic rays hitting nitrogen in the stratosphere, so climate can have a significant impact.)",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this paper also explores a further, indirect, influence of the sun that arising from its ability to temper the impact of cosmic rays which in turn influences temperature via cloud formation.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "first, lets deal with the main thesis: that the presence or absence of cosmic rays in earths atmosphere is a better explanation for temperature variation than the concentration of co2",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this has been collaborated by a team at kobe university in japan, which has furthered the finnish researchers theory: ""new evidence suggests that high-energy particles from space known as galactic cosmic rays affect the earths climate by increasing cloud cover, causing an umbrella effect,"" the just published study has found, a summary of which has been released in the journal science daily.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "nice attempt at spinning that, but i would have to say that the actual scientists writing those papers might know better the meaning of those papers than some conspiracy theorist from the web or some ignorant from reddit which did not even start to master the basic elements of climate science (and which more recently seemed to be ready to push crap-science on the correlation of agw with us debt and before that some shit on how agw is caused by cosmic rays by quoting a paper which explicitly said that no such conclusion can be made).",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the magnetic field varies as well, which supposedly can have an effect on the flux of cosmic rays that hit our atmosphere, which can effect cloud formation and effect temperature.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming your own article specifically said it should not be misconstrued to suggest that cosmic rays were the primary culprit to climate change.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "but, his cosmic rays hypothesis has been shown years ago to be only responsible for 5-15% of climate change.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming when water vapor in the air and cloud formation (via solar winds and cosmic rays) make up 80% of the temperature changes....,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this fact is not entirely surprising, since the number of cosmic rays has been increasing while temps continue to rise - if they exert any influence on current climate conditions at all, they should be causing cooling.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming evidence for a physical linkage between galactic cosmic rays and regional climate time series,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "however during times of high number of sunspots, the solar wind is strong and its interaction with our expanded magnetic field repels incoming cosmic rays, which in turn causes fewer clouds and thus warming.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays cause climate change.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there is a recent study published by university of kobe, in japan where they show data suggesting cosmic rays change cloud coverage that leads to changes in climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "we conclude that cosmic rays and solar activity which we have examined here, in some depth, therefore cannot be a very significant underestimated contributor to the global warming seen in the twentieth century.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming climate change models produced by the un dont take solar and cosmic rays into account.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "they are climate change deniers, who say earths climate is stable and can be kept stable by controlling minor factors (human carbon dioxide and methane emissions) and ignoring water vapor (the dominant greenhouse gas) and fluctuations in solar energy, cosmic rays, clouds, oceanic circulation, volcanoes, planetary orbits and other powerful natural forces that have brought climate changes throughout history.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming its not cosmic rays either,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this is called the svensmarks solar cosmic ray theory (strong evidence that svensmark solar cosmic ray theory of climate is correct), and i implore that you read up on it for yourself.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the umbrella effect caused by galactic cosmic rays is important when thinking about current global warming as well as the warm period of the medieval era.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "high-energy cosmic rays can affect cloud formation, and that will in turn affect climate to some degree.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "assuming 1% effect of the cosmic rays to cloud cover, this would cause a warming of 0.002°c in global surface temperature.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the problem however is that the cosmic ray theory cant explain the warming over the last three decades, in which solar activity was decreasing.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "in 1997, svensmark and eigil friis-christensen popularised a theory that linked galactic cosmic rays and global climate change mediated primarily by variations in the intensity of the solar wind, which they have termed cosmoclimatology.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "global warming and cooling are driven by the sun, specifically by the solar-sourced interplanetary magnetic field, which regulates incoming cosmic rays, which in turn govern cloudiness and thus global temperature.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "if mainstream climate scientists thought cosmic rays were important, they would put them in the models.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming winter monsoons became stronger during geomagnetic reversal: revealing the impact of cosmic rays on the earths climate -- sciencedaily,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming """at the present time we can not say whether cosmic rays affect the climate.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "today, i was reading a book from a very respected academic institution and one of the authors claimed that there is a genuine possibility that changes in cosmic rays could be largely responsible for up to two-thirds of the warming experienced since 1900, as well as having an important driving effect on the pleistocene glaciations.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "im under the impression that there a lot of factors that make up climate change (such as varying solar intensities, ocean temp, cosmic rays, aerosol cans).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming none of these papers contain any evidence whatsoever for either a correlation or indeed a causation that cosmic rays have on the climate.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming this website has a detailed criticism of using cosmic rays as an explanation of modern global warming,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming """claim 4: the sun or cosmic rays are much more likely the real causes of global warming.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "galactic cosmic rays, clouds and climate change",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "im not saying its all bullshit, im saying climate science is an ever changing thing and solar cycles, cosmic rays, and cloud cover are not necessarily part of the formula, or are underrepresented.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "sunlight, volcanic eruptions, cosmic rays, the solar system, atmospheric circulation, water vapor, and methane are all factors that affect temperatures more than carbon dioxide, but climate change theorists never mention it.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming earth temperatures correlating with sunspot activity and thus solar cosmic rays,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the guest post in climate nexus states that this cosmic ray theory has been dismissed before in a 2010 national academies of science report.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "a number of scientists - quite reputable ones, i have to say - argue that global temperature hasnt increased all that much (if at all) since 1998 and that might be consonant with trends in solar output and cosmic rays.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "yes this geomagnetic reversal will increase the amount of cosmic rays that get in for a time, which will affect climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this suggests that there are combined effects of solar, cosmic rays, geophysical and human activity on climate change patterns.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays actually do affect climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming proof of history that has been suppressed - the true purpose of the great pyramid - proof of henrik svensmark theory - cosmic rays change the earths climate - proof advanced civilizations lived in the past.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the sun is the main player, cosmic rays and other astrophysical phenomena also influence the climate heavily as well as earths changing magnetic field.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the high energy cosmic rays can increase cloud formation and affect the climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "shaviv and scafetta both argue that solar radiation/cosmic rays play a bigger part in warming than is usually claimed, but still believe that the earth is warming and that human contributions make a big difference scafetta says 30-60% is human caused, shaviv doesnt give a specific number.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "that graph of cosmic ray flux has a timeline of communication million years, and provides no evidence of rapid warming over the 100 year periods.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this led the study to conclude, *""...during these last 30 years the solar total irradiance, solar* *uv* *irradiance and cosmic ray flux has not shown any significant secular* *trend, so that at least this most recent warming episode must have another* *source.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the long term cycles in warming and cooling might be driven by extrasolar activity -- cosmic rays -- which vary as our solar system goes around milky way.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "i *do* have an idea of whats behind most of todays warming trend, and - aside from the relatively minimal amount of man-made co2 and other greenhouse gases (despite being a large amount in absolute levels) - the main causes are the same as in previous warm periods such as in the middle ages or during the height of the roman empire: the sun (plus cosmic rays) and the oceans.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "in this chamber, 63 cern scientists from 17 european and american institutes have done what global warming doomsayers said could never be done - demonstrate that cosmic rays promote the formation of molecules that in earths atmosphere can grow and seed clouds, the cloudier and thus cooler it will be.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "conclusion: climate change is an emergency and humans are the primary cause, not cosmic rays.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming checkout svensmarks work about cosmic rays before saying that there is only one possible explanation to global warming.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming >cosmic rays affecting the climate is a thing,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "because the suns magnetic field controls how many cosmic rays reach earths atmosphere (the stronger the suns magnetic field, the more it shields earth from incoming cosmic rays from space), the sun determines the temperature on earth, lawrence solomon, director of energy probe, wrote about the experiment.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming do you guys realize that if the people in power wanted to cover up man made climate change then henrik svensmark cosmic ray theory would be the easiest thing in the world for them to latch onto to prove cars arent the cause?,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "like increased sunlight, cosmic ray heating would be a top-down effect - the upper atmosphere would not be cooling if cosmic rays were to blame for global warming.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the report stated �ion-induced nucleation cosmic ray action will manifest itself as a steady production of new particles molecular clusters that is difficult to isolate in atmospheric observations because of other sources of variability but is nevertheless taking place and could be quite large globally over the troposphere [the lower atmosphere], in other words, the big influence exists, yet hasnt been factored into climate models",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "oh, the wuwt retards are so cute trying to push the cosmic rays - even if **there are mountains of comprehensive real-world studies that show how clear and major trends in gcrs at any scale - from days to months to half-decades (and possibly soon to almost half-century) - result in no measurable trend in cloud coverage or anything remotely connected with earth climate!",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming theres a hypothesis being chucked around for the last few decades that cosmic rays have a larger impact on climate than we might think.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the connection between cosmic rays, clouds and climate",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "look back in time look at the world 1000 years ago at some points we get hotter and at some points we get colder its idiotic to deny that the magnetic poles are moving allowing more cosmic rays in, heating up the ice caps and some places on the planet while cooling others",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the consensus on the the relationship between cosmic rays and climate is hardly unanimous anyway:,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "in addition to these multiple lines of empirical evidence which contradict the gcr warming theory, the galactic cosmic ray theory cannot easily explain the cooling of the upper atmosphere, greater warming at night, or greater warming at higher latitudes.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "using the changing cosmic ray rate as a proxy for solar activity, this result implies that less than 14% of global warming seen since the 1950s comes from changes in solar activity.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays linked to global warming,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this is called the svensmark solar-cosmic ray theory (strong evidence that svensmark solar cosmic ray theory of climate is correct), and i implore that you read up on it for yourself.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming never mind the fact that cosmic ray fluctuations and temperatures are *not* correlated over the past 40 years...,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming in other words cosmic rays (very rare and high energy rays which are emitted from things like black holes) probably dont influence the climate.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming svensmarks theory argues that cosmic rays are a major driver of cloud cover and temperature?,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "for example, the whole ""cosmic rays not humans cause global warming"" buzz coming from denialists recently.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cosmic rays certainly arent causing recent global warming, cosmic ray intensities have been roughly steady or slightly increasing from the 1960s to present (ignoring the 11-year cycle).",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming did you know cern proved that cosmic rays and clouds affect warming.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "when galactic cosmic rays increase, so do low clouds, and when cosmic rays decrease clouds do as well, so climate warming may be caused by an opposite-umbrella effect.""",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "several studies have proposed a possible influence of variations in the galactic cosmic ray (gcr) flux on earths climate, on the basis of an observed correlation between the amount of (gcr) flux reaching the atmosphere and average cloud cover on decadal and weekly timescales (svensmark et al., 2016).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming it’s not oceans or cosmic rays warming the planet.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "climate has changed during the bast 100 billion years from when humans was never a part of this earth, it was hotter during the middle ages when the industrial revolution was not even an idea, milankovic cycles is one thing that determines climate from outer space, seasons is another thing that determines climate from outer space, sun spots, cosmic rays has influence as well, with the sun being the main source.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "study shows cfcs, cosmic rays major culprits for global warming - insciences",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there have been many others released then in support of cosmological climate change for example this one correlating 9400 years of typhoons with gcr, another one showing causation of cosmic rays forcing global climate changes in multi year time intervals and over a century of strong correlation.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming scientists have found the missing link from sunspot activity to cosmic rays-clouds to climate change,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays appear to have made only a 0.002 degree c contribution to warming over the past half century,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming forbes published this today: why solar activity and cosmic rays cannot explain global warming,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "as far as effects on climate, its probably more likely that cosmic rays will make you super-strong, invisible, or really, really stretchy , than it is that they have a ruling effect on climate....",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the real claim, is that quiescence affects climate, by allowing more cosmic rays into the heliosphere, and subsequently into the earths troposphere, inducing greater cloud generation.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "(2010) found; ""galactic cosmic rays appear to play a minor role for atmospheric aerosol formation events, and so for the connected aerosol-climate effects as well.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming climate models are still consistently more accurate than denier models: no ex cathedra declarations about the sun cycle or cosmic rays are even close.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "after looking at the supplied studies, no experimental evidence for the significant anthropogenic climate change and revealing the impact of cosmic rays on the earths climate",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming plus no agw model has cosmic rays (proven by cern to affect warming) nor does it have clouds (also proven by cern) as variables in their calculations meaning they are already garbage,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there are also studies that suggest cosmic rays promote the formation of clouds in the atmosphere; if so, increasing cosmic rays could affect weather and climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "what has been happening is tons and tons of incoming high energy cosmic rays, due to the weakening of the earths magnetosphere, which lights up the earths resonances (as well as warming up the volanoes)",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "svensmarks theory about the cosmic ray effect is still undergoing research among many other lesser-known theories, so it is premature to say ""we know it is not solar-induced"" especially since solar activity tracks fairly well with temperature changes (accounting for solar cycles and a long equilibrium time).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "solar winds and cosmic rays have gone in the wrong direction to explain **any** warming over the past 70 years, let alone 80%.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "its a common method used by bad climate scientists to minimize or ignore the effect of co2 in global warming by trying to blame other stuff (its not cosmic rays, galactic disk passage, galactus applying space chilli...).",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "2005: ""during the last 30 years, neither total radiation intensity, nor solar uv, nor cosmic ray flux have shown any significant long-term trend - so at least the recent phase of global warming must have some other cause.""",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "when galactic cosmic rays increase, so do low clouds, and when cosmic rays decrease clouds do as well, so climate warming may be caused by an opposite-umbrella effect.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "however, whenever faced with evidence that the world is warming right now, some deniers say that its caused by cosmic rays, or volcanoes, or a mysterious ""natural cycle"" in the earth.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "moreover, there are too many unknown parameters that were not included in this small presentation, like the multidecadal oceanic oscillation and cosmic rays (that are suspected to affect the earths climate - nir shaviv� rather recent work).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "sloan wolfendale (2013) found that the contribution of solar activity and galactic cosmic rays (combined) to global warming is ""less than 10% of the warming seen in the twentieth century.""",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming so cosmic rays cannot explain why the global temperature is going up since the year 2000.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "i would be glad to, if the warming had matched prediction and if we understood the cosmic ray cloud seeding phenomenon better.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays from the solar systems transit through the milky way and solar cycles deflecting them at varying rates helps explain the pause in rising temperatures we saw over the past decade and also means global warming predictions might be ~20% too high based on those effects alone.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays are *many orders of magnitude* below the energy input needed to have an effect on the temperature of earth.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there are several papers that talk about additional causes of warming, such as the svensmark hypothesis about the interaction of galactic cosmic rays and the solar wind.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "everything from ozone change to volcanoes, human activities, and ocean cycles has a non-zero effect on climate, but much of temperature history fits together well if changes in cosmic rays and solar activity have a major effect on climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "norwegian scientists: ""cosmic rays not responsible for global warming""",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "of course, this subreddit is dedicated to disagreeing with that on every level, by claiming warming is not happening, or it is caused by the sun despite the measurements showing no change, or by cosmic rays, or some other unknown method, or that the increase in greenhouse gases is natural, etc.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "climate change is caused by cosmic rays: [the research, published with little fanfare this week in the prestigious journal nature, comes from uber-prestigious cern, the european organization for nuclear research, one of the worlds largest centres for scientific research involving 60 countries and 8,000 scientists at more than 600 universities and national laboratories.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "actually, cosmic rays affecting the climate is a thing in science.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this leads to the conclusion that a microphysical mechanism involving cosmic rays and clouds is operating in the earths atmosphere, and that this mechanism has the potential to explain a significant part of the observed climate variability over the history of the earth.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cosmic rays seed clouds, cloud coverage affects temperature.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "both galactic and solar cosmic rays hitting earths atmosphere create aerosols which, in turn, seed clouds (svensmark et al) �making them an important player in our weather and climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "a european parliament report that blames climate change on cosmic ray fluctuations, sunspots and planetary gravitational pulls, is so hackneyed and ill-informed it would make the dinosaurs blush, climate scientists say.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "i never said cosmic rays dont have an impact on climate, just that itll be minimal compared to anthropocentric activities.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "galactic cosmic rays appear to play a minor role for atmospheric aerosol formation events, and so for the connected aerosol-climate effects as well",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "well, a us shift to shale oil which is supposedly cleaner regarding co2 as well as the newest research tying climate change to the sun particle and cosmic ray forcing, i suspect goldman is reaching for last minute influence/cash grab.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming further information: cosmic ray postulated role in climate change,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming and the most relevant thing which is completely destroying the svensmark hypothesis is that there is no correlation between the cosmic rays and the actual evolution of the earth temperature - for once instead of promoting retarded crap-science you could at least try to read and learn something based on real peer-reviewed science:,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "not dismissed at all, the arnold j. bloom data proves a strong correlation between cosmic rays and temperature, while it is common knowledge that historical co2 levels lag temperature in paleo data.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "svensmarks theory about the cosmic ray effect is still undergoing research among many other lesser-known theories, so it is premature to say ""we know it is not solar-induced"" especially since solar activity tracks fairly well with temperature changes (accounting for solar cycles and a long equilibrium time).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the headline posted here by zarx: *""cern finds cosmic rays ""significantly"" responsible for climate change.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the hypothesis is that solar wind intercepts these cosmic rays more completely as the sun brightens, which discourages cloud cover, warming the earth.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming so guess what cosmic rays are in zero models for climate change yet we have proof that they do influence global temperatures.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the explanation is the sun, its magnetic cycle intensity, and its influence on galactic cosmic rays, according to svensmark and many other climate scientists.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "when you question if maybe cosmic rays have been reduced causing less cloud cover, causing global warming, which we actually had to test and was proven wrong.. you are a skeptic.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming its already been proven that cosmic rays dont have a strong enough effect to cause more than a 0.05c increase in temperature,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there are similar scientific explanations debunking claims that variation in galactic cosmic rays cause warming, and honestly those are about the only two lines of inquiry i can think of recently that tried to suggest a cause for warming that wasnt anthropogenic.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "now, cern has unraveled the earths cloud chemistry--and confirmed svensmarks theory with their large hadron collider producing the cosmic rays. cern found that the climate modelers totally failed to understand the interaction of electrically charged cloud particles created by the cosmic rays, which produced one or two orders of magnitude more clouds.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "earths position, other planetes, cosmic rays have influence on climate too, but mainly the sun.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming solar magentic activity (and thus solar cosmic rays) correlating with earth temperatures,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming there is a big difference between saying that all of the warming since 1850 is caused by co2 versus saying 5% of it is caused by co2 and the rest is caused by solar cycles and cosmic rays or other natural processes.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "these groups often point to natural variability, such as sunspots and cosmic rays, to explain the warming trend.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this is correct, except that the most recognized study on cosmic rays and global warming in the scientific community concluded that cosmic rays could only have accounted for a maximum of 10% of the overall increase in temperature in the 20th century.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "similarly, svensmarks theory on cosmic rays is not willfully ignored, but there is simply no evidence for any correlation whatsoever between cosmic rays and global temperatures.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "in fact if increasing cosmic rays due to decreasing magnetic field caused more clouds, then we should expect cooling rather than warming, because clouds reflect visible and infrared radiation.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "also some hypotheses of warming claim that its being driven by an increase in galactic cosmic rays, which happens during periods of lower solar activity because a strong solar wind deflects more gcrs.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the scientists dismiss both greenhouse gases and variations in the suns irradiance as significant climate drivers, and instead embrace cloud cover variations modulated by cosmic ray flux as a dominant contributor to climate change...""",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "sunspots are associated with increased solar wind, and the particles of the solar wind along with the earths radiation belts and magnetic field tend to capture these particular types of cosmic ray particles before they get to the earths atmosphere, making for less cloudy skies and warmer climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "if the trends in cosmic ray flux continue, many of al gore gloomy predictions will come true (except the long-term warming) and the people on the fence on whether climate change is real, will quickly find out that it is real, but the fact that it will have nothing (or little) to do with human greenhouse gases will be disregarded by the panicking masses.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "in what is likely a doomed attempt to stop a tidal wave of bad posts, the authors immediately acknowledge that cosmic rays have no discernible effect on climate change, but rather may have some modest effect on year-to-year variability.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "(2007) address this topic, noting that �the cosmic ray time series does not appear to correspond to global total cloud cover after 1991 or to global low-level cloud cover after 1994.� more recent research continues to question the ability of this mechanism to play a significant role in climate change.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "temperatures are affected more by the sun, volcanoes, cosmic rays, the solar system, atmospheric circulation, water vapor, and methane than by carbon dioxide, yet these other elements are never mentioned by proponents of the man-made global warming hypothesis.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there are studies and insights into solar particle forcing and effects of solar protons, electrons, and galactic cosmic rays on the global climate",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "when galactic cosmic rays increase, so do low clouds, and when cosmic rays decrease clouds do as well, so climate warming may be caused by an opposite-umbrella effect.”",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming """there is a connection between cosmic rays, clouds and climate"", henrik svensmark.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "galactic cosmic rays appear to play a minor role for atmospheric aerosol formation events, and so for the connected aerosol-climate effects as well.""",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming its 2010 and cosmic rays still arent driving climate change,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the ipcc reports do cover research regarding solar variation, cosmic rays, and other natural causes that can influence the climate.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this is called the svensmarks solar-cosmic ray theory (strong evidence that svensmarks solar cosmic ray theory of climate is correct), and i implore that you read up on it for yourself.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the svensmark effect is a hypothesis that galactic cosmic rays induce low cloud formation and influence the earths climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming there are some ideas out there right now about whether the cosmic ray flux influences cloud condensation nuclei and can therefore influence climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming for cosmic ray variability to have an appreciable effect on heating the climate by energy deposit they would have to increase by something like a trillion million percent.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming on the cosmic rays: greenhouse agw says the lower atmosphere is where we should see the most warming but this is the part of the atmosphere where we see the least warming.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "galactic cosmic rays are a possible influence on climate, but recent experiments at cern indicate it has only a small effect:",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming documentary: the cloud mystery -- explains the theory that cosmic rays drive the climate,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays dont appear to have a strong effect on earths climate.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "not sure what counts as a priori and what doesnt, but mars doesnt have a strong magnetic field, which seems to be a bad sign for keeping a thick atmosphere which would protect against cosmic rays and regulate temperature.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the second thing is that temperature changes on other planets dont require any changes in solar output or cosmic rays to explain them.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the study concluded that the cosmic ray rate did not match the changes in temperature, indicating that it was not a causal relationship.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "in particular, the sun cannot have contributed more than 30% to the steep temperature increase that has taken place since then, irrespective of which of the three considered channels is the dominant one determining sun-climate interactions: tropospheric heating caused by changes in total solar irradiance, stratospheric chemistry influenced by changes in the solar uv spectrum, or cloud coverage affected by the cosmic ray flux.""",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "thus, even if cosmic rays enhanced cloud production, there would be a small global cooling, not warming.""",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming theres no clear correlation between cosmic rays and climate change.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the tune may have changed to ""saving us from increased cosmic rays"" once global warming stalled 2 decades ago.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "if you ask me why they want to start injecting the stratosphere with a replica of volcanic eruptions, its nothing to do with the global warming hoax, its to help combat the increasing cosmic rays and uvr.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming """variations in solar intensity and the suns magnetic effect on celestial cosmic rays cause global warming (and cooling), not co2 emissions, natural or human-generated.""",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the theory suggests our climate is primarily driven by cosmic rays and solar winds.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "research claim: finnish and japanese scientists find ""man-made climate change doesnt exist in practice"", glactic cosmic rays driving cloud cover formation and climate changes that exist",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "he also denies global warming, with a few of his reasons being ""gamma ray bursts/cosmic rays"" and the fact that the moon is moving away from the earth meaning it orbits faster....",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "a weaker magnetic field allows more cosmic rays to reach the earth, which leads to more cloud formation, higher albedo and therefore lower temperatures.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming regarding cosmic rays and clouds effect in the climate: the last intergovernmental panel on climate change assessment addressed this.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming """its cosmic rays"" cosmic rays show no trend over the last 30 years & have had little impact on recent global warming.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the new findings point to cosmic rays and the sun � not human activities � as the dominant controller of climate on earth.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this led the study to conclude during these last 30 years the solar total irradiance, solar* *uv* *irradiance and cosmic ray flux has not shown any significant seculartrend, so that at least this most recent warming episode must have another* *source.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "[1] he is known for his theory on the effects of cosmic rays on cloud formation as an indirect cause of global warming""_",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming study finds solar amplification mechanism: solar activity and cosmic rays control climate,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "in fact, the correlation is so well, it was shown that cosmic ray flux variations explain about two thirds of the variance in the reconstructed temperature signal.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "mainstream climate science ignores a large part of solar radiation, such as x-rays and cosmic rays, and ignores atmospheric electromagnetic and friction heat generation and assumes all warming from those sources is caused by humans.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "some have interpreted this to mean that cosmic rays (major source of gamma rays for 14n production, the source isotope of 14c) were a climate forcer.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming this one showing causation of cosmic rays forcing global climate changes in multi year time intervals and over a century of strong correlation.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "by firing beams of particles from the labs proton synchrotron accelerator into a gas-filled chamber, they have discovered that cosmic rays could have a role to play in climate by enhancing the production of potentially cloud-seeding aerosols.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "while cosmic rays may certainly have an impact in affecting the climate, its a bit of jump to then disregard the abundant evidence that human activities do have an impact on climate change.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "climate change is largely driven externally, both by the sun and by cosmic rays from outside our solar system.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "final proof: global warming is caused by cosmic rays, not by humans.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "on these grounds, a correlation between cosmic ray fluxes, inferred from measurements in meteorites, and occurrence of glacial ages in the last 150 myr, has been claimed as an unambiguous evidence for a control of gcr on climate (shaviv, 2002; shaviv, 2003).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays are a very poor predictor of climate.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "as an example, id point to around 12:20, where he starts talking about the effect of solar activity on climate, suggesting that this could be a major influence on recent climate trends, including the indirect effect of cosmic rays and cloud nucleation.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "how can you claim than ""climate scientists dont know what theyre talking about"", then turn around and claim that an unverified hypothesis (cosmic rays lead to cloud nucleation) is true without doubt when the people doing the research wont even dare make that kind of statement?",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the strongest idea currently relates to a clear correlation of earths global temperature and sun-spot activity, with the idea being that a more active sun weakens our magnetosphere, allowing more cosmic rays to excite our atmosphere, which increases water vapor nucleation, leading to more clouds.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming lets face it that top scientists like the chief of cern have come out and said climate change happens because of cosmic rays and other things of external nature like the sun,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "wasnt there that study from japan and norway that concluded climate change is mostly a result of increased water vapor and cosmic rays, not human activity?",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming we had a big cosmic ray signal points to the chart and the climate ignores it.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming when you type 2 paragraphs about how cosmic rays are influencing the climate and then say that cern has proven the link.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "some of the patterns im seeing which match up nicely are decreases in sunspot activity, increases in cosmic rays (and hence cloud seeding), decreases in total solar irradiance, vostok ice cores showing temps drive co2 growth not the other way around, tree ring data confirming vostok data, and recently that sea surface temps match co2 emmisions ",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "*the data also support the idea of a long-term link between cosmic rays and climate, with these climatic changes underlying the biological effects.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the guy who created the theory that cosmic rays affected the climate barely got his study published.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming henrik svensmark et al proved that the intensity of cosmic rays on earth coincided with climate change going back 600m years even matching ice age data.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "all known natural factors affecting climate either act over much longer time periods (e.g., the shifting of continents over millions of years, or irregularities in the earths orbit in tens of thousands of year cycles), or have not changed significantly within the past few decades (solar radiation intensity, cosmic rays, volcanic activity).",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming and are you implying that the current climate has nothing to do with variations in cosmic rays and solar activity?,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "similarly, the recent trend in cosmic rays is the opposite of what it would need to be, to cause warming",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "oh right its the cosmic rays argument,this video at the linked time 42:00 suggests that cosmic rays dont impact the climate.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "start reading here to get an idea of what would be needed to prove that cosmic rays influence the climate, and why there is no evidence whatsoever that they do in the way that svensmark claims.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "a lot of recent warming trends, which are assumed to be co2 feedback driven, may be in fact solar driven, which maybe via changes in cloud cover due to solar wind influences on cosmic rays, and driven by urban heat islands and other data collection factors.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "every 13k years the poles reverse which cause quite a lot of crazy things to happen on earth such as abrupt climate change, solar radiation affecting the dna mutations of living organisms (because the magnetic shield is much lower during this process allowing for the suns cosmic rays to hit the earth more).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "sloan and wolfendale (2013)[35] demonstrated that while temperature models showed a small correlation every 22 years, less than 14 percent of global warming since the 1950s could be attributed to cosmic ray rate.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "when galactic cosmic rays increase, so do low clouds, and when cosmic rays decrease clouds do as well, so climate warming may be caused by an opposite-umbrella effect",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "increased global temperatures could be due to changes in solar activity affecting the number of cosmic rays hitting the atmosphere, thereby influencing cloud cover.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "going from shavivs hypothesis and from the (relatively poor but still demonstrable) link between increased cosmic ray flux and increased cloud cover, we should have seen temperatures drop not rise.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "a review of the new theory of climate change, due to the suns magnetic field interacting with cosmic rays, is provided.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "similarly, the earth takes hundreds of millions of years to orbit the galaxy, and the observed trend in cosmic rays would cause cooling, not warming",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming there is a significant difference between cosmic rays having an effect on global temperature and their being behind the current trend of global warming.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the new findings point to cosmic rays and the sun �not human activities as the dominant controller of climate on earth.""",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "so, we know its not milankovitch cycles, we know its not natural oceanic cycles (enso, amo), we know its not total solar irradiance, uv rays or cosmic rays...and we also expect the 40% increase in atmospheric co2, which is due to human activity, to produce a warming which is consistent with observations.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "im wracking my brain, and i think what you are referring to the recent paper that purported to show that cosmic rays could seed cloud formation, and so could be a driving factor in climate change (with a decrease in cosmic rays, fewer clouds would form and the planet would warm slightly).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming i am beginning to think that the hockey stick was actually commissioned for the express purpose of discrediting henrik svensmark and eigil friis-christensens 1997 paper showing a close correlation between cosmic rays and temperature.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "albedo, orbit (e.g., milankovitch cycles), the magnetosphere, global electric circuit, galactic cosmic rays, clouds, volcanoes, and interplanetary magnetic fields (birkeland currents) then you must put all change and variability on the side of ""human changes"" (i.e., anthropogenic climate change) — here is the big deception, the fake, political climate modeling which is supported by the pseudo-scientific ipcc (a u.n. political organization, not a scientific body).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming changes in cosmic ray frequency or intensity are too small to have a meaningful effect on the climate,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "meanwhile, in the actual scientific literature, the links between galactic cosmic rays (gcrs) and temperature have been extensively studied and the evidence shows that [not only is the causal mechanism for affecting temperature not remotely strong enough to have contributed even a small minority to recent warming but that gcrs have been lagging temperature for decades.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "however, it is premature to conclude that cosmic rays have a significant influence on climate until the additional nucleating vapours have been identified, their ion enhancement measured, and the ultimate effects on clouds have been confirmed.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "since solar particle and cosmic ray datasets were included by the ipcc two years ago (after decades of lobbying), not a single paper has shown that climate change is caused by c02.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming study: cosmic rays contribute 40% to global warming,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "these changes affect the total energy output of the sun to a small degree (within about 1% or less), but they also change the solar wind environment, which impacts cosmic ray flux at earth and cloud formation, which has a complex impact on earths climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "let me repeat this, just so you understand: even if there is proof of a link between cosmic rays and cloud nucleation, this does not invalidate agw theory in any way as we already know that cosmic ray/solar activity is not responsible for the current warming, as they do not correlate.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "but because im a nice guy, ill give you a head start: one, youd have to prove that all the climate change effects are coming from these cosmic rays -- not to mention, show me your reason for thinking that this theory isnt already adequately explained and accounted for by real climate scientists.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the svensmark theory is not nearly ""as plausible"" as the galactic cosmic rays (gcr) flux does not fit the observed variations in temperature.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "sun activity, like solar radiation and cosmic rays, are far more closely related to temperature fluctuations than atmospheric co2 concentration.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the ipcc says cosmic rays are a factor in the climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there is one paper that will_power favors, in which shaviv explains away most of the anthropogenic warming with an indirect solar forcing (think cosmic rays).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming decreasing solar activity = weakening of earths magnetic field = more penetration of cosmic rays = increased cloud cover = major climate implications & biological implications for everything alive on the surface,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "they then claimed the warming was due to increased cloud cover, due to cosmic rays (!)",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming still no convincing evidence that cosmic ray variation has a meaningful impact on climate,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "krivova, 2003 between 1970 and 1985 the cosmic ray flux, although still behaving similarly to the temperature, in fact lags it and cannot be the cause of its rise.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming study: cosmic rays contribute 40% to global warming -- environment minister jairam ramesh speaks out against warmists tactics,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there are thousands of things going on in the atmosphere that amplifies and dampens the effect of co2, the catastrophic climate change scientists ignore many of the dampening effects like clouds, they also attribute all warming to green house gases when the sun and cosmic rays also has an effect.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "i find it amazing that people study years and years and years for a phd, asess the situation, and along with practically every single other person in the field of climate science, say that ""yes, this is real"", only for a politician to disregard their expert opinion because s/he did a google search for bias confirmation and decided that climate change is soley caused by cosmic rays and moon lasers or something.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "just like solar activity (which is related to incoming cosmic radiation), the recent trend in cosmic rays is the opposite of what it would need to be, to cause warming",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cosmic rays orginate from super novas, suns magnetic field controls how many cosmic rays reach the earth, cosmic rays seed cloud formation, clouds control earths climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming pubmed - ( a cosmic ray-cloud interaction may help explain how a relatively small change in solar output can produce much larger changes in earths climate),Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming """cosmic rays promote the formation of clouds"" which means the earth reflects more sunlight and the climate gets colder.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "not only that, enormous changes in the suns magnetic field are not considered by climate science while research originally started at cern showed cosmic rays cause clouds provoked the climate priesthood to lose their shit--many attempts at denying this research have been put forth, i am aware.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming as i understand from the sloan and wolfendale paper this contribution of cosmic rays should be less than 10% for cloud formation and less than 14% for global warming.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cern: climate models will need to be substantially revised it provides support for a ""heliocentric"" rather than ""anthropogenic"" approach to climate change: the sun plays a large role in modulating the quantity of cosmic rays reaching the upper atmosphere of the earth.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "again, i think this statement ""solar radiation (cosmic rays) arent causing global warming"" is wrong.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "for now, at least, cosmic rays remain a less plausible culprit in climate change.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there are also controversial studies that suggest cosmic rays promote the formation of clouds in the atmosphere; if so, increasing cosmic rays could affect weather and climate.""",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming evidence against a long-term control on earth climate by galactic cosmic ray flux,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming as cosmic rays shoot into our atmosphere they produce atmospheric ions which promote the formation of ccns which in turn affects (especially low) cloud-cover and thus the temperature.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming unsettled science: scientists at kobe university in japan find hard evidence that cosmic rays influence climate,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming they discuss prior (legitimate) research by other scientists that showed cosmic rays dont affect climate or clouds.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "doesnt really belong here, but it gives a sense of how much the sun has an influence on our solar system and the scale to which it pushes back the cosmic rays, which have in turn a significant influence on our climate through cloud formation.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming dynamical evidence for causality between galactic cosmic rays and interannual variation in global temperature,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "* all known natural factors affecting climate either act over much longer time periods (e.g., the shifting of continents over millions of years, or irregularities in the earths orbit in tens of thousands of years cycles), or have not changed significantly within the past few decades (solar radiation intensity, cosmic rays, volcanic activity).",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "if thats not a fancy way of saying that cosmic rays are causing global warming, then citation needed.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming here is prima facie evidence for suspecting that much of the warming of the world during the 20th century was due to a reduction in cosmic rays and in low-cloud cover.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming svensmarks theory that its cosmic rays causing global warming is easily disproved by observing that solar activity is decreasing yet temperatures are increasing and it was further destroyed by experiments at cern where they simulated actual high-atmospheric conditions and adding their own cosmic rays,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this temporal coincidence strengthens the recent suggestion that the geomagnetic field influences climate change over multi-decadaltime scales, possibly through the modulation of cosmic ray flux interacting with the atmosphere.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "we dont observe any significant correlations between cosmic rays and cloud cover, or between cosmic rays and short-term temperature fluctuations.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "let me guess, you read the part of the conclusion where they say if their results are taken at face value then most of the 20th centurys warming can be explained by cosmic rays?",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "a considerable fraction of nucleation involves ions, but the relatively weak dependence on ion concentrations indicates that for the processes studied, variations in cosmic ray intensity do not appreciably affect climate through nucleation in the present-day atmosphere.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming and (b) we see absolutely no correlation between cosmic rays and climate change.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there is at least one new study that says that cosmic rays increase cloud cover, which may account for 90% of warming.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "no, cosmic rays arent causing global warming",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "during these last 30 years the solar total irradiance, solar uv irradiance and cosmic ray flux has not shown any significant secular trend, so that at least this most recent warming episode must have another source",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "my point is that climate scare stories need to be taken with a large grain of salt as there is much we dont understand, clouds and galactic cosmic rays for example, even the influence of bodies in our outer solar system.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the preceding contrasts with those who would assume co2 to be the primary climate driver and who, in practice, predominantly simply entirely ignore the effect of cosmic rays (aside from the occasional attempt at rebuttal to justify continuing to ignore them), acting as if solar activity variation only mattered for direct irradiance alone.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cosmic rays have been promoted by climate change skeptics as a possible source of climate change, but the evidence doesnt support this",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "ipccs 5th assessment report (due for sept 2013), leaked 9 months early by researcher claiming, ""cosmic rays are actually the cause of climate change and warming patterns"" ~ can anyone validate/discuss the findings linked within?",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "during these last 30 years the solar total irradiance, solar uv irradiance and cosmic ray flux has not shown any significant secular trend, so that at least this most recent warming episode must have another source.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming solar wind deflects cosmic rays and that is what causes global warming.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "also, computer models predicting global warming are incapable of properly including the effects of the sun, cosmic rays and the clouds.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "as cosmic rays intensify, new study suggests sun more important than thought on earths climate",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cern: paper published in nature finds that cosmic rays and the sun �not human activities is the dominant controller of climate on earth.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming how is saying cosmic rays are the primary cause of climate change denying climate change?,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming this fact also proves it cant be the sun or sunspots or cosmic rays.. because we would be seeing the upper atmosphere warming as well if it was external influences.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming variations in solar activity and cosmic rays correlate to temperature much,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming new research has dealt a blow to the skeptics who argue that climate change is all due to cosmic rays,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming new evidence suggests that high-energy particles from space known as galactic cosmic rays affect the earths climate by increasing cloud cover,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "also, the climate is controlled by the sun the source of the energy absorbed by the atmosphere and cosmic rays (which greatly affect cloud formation).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming all ive seen is reference to svenmarks kooky cosmic ray theory,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming research cosmic rays and cloud ionisation and how our magnetic field impacts that if you dont see how that impacts our climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming its the sun or cosmic rays and clouds or its not warming its cooling,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there is no correlation between tsi, uvs or cosmic ray activity and the current temperature increase.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "thus changes in the cosmic ray flux cannot be responsible for more than 15% of the temperature increase""",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming scientists just discovered that cosmic rays influence climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the study adds weight to a contentious theory by danish researcher henrik svensmark, of the danish national space institute in copenhagen, which uses cosmic rays and clouds to question the sensitivity of climate to carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the article talks more about the role of cosmic rays in cloud formation, including the cloud experiment, but overall, the trends dont appear to support the argument that its even a significant factor in global warming.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "on the flip side, those cosmic rays are bring more energy, which increases temperature.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the ""more cosmic rays increase earth temperature"" hypothesis has been tested and refuted.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "i fear the threshold has been crossed and ignoring the context of the evergrowing literature and data about cosmic rays and the potential for a stronger sun for earths climate has become ""denial"" of natural climate change potential that doesnt fit the ipcc dogma and introduces uncertainty in model predictions.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "because the suns magnetic field controls how many cosmic rays reach earths atmosphere (the stronger the sun� magnetic field, the more it shields earth from incoming cosmic rays from space), the sun determines the temperature on earth.""",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "no combination of variations in solar radiation, cosmic rays, volcanic activity, changes to the earths orbit, changes to albedo or changes to ocean currents can account for the majority of recent warming.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming **claim 4: the sun or cosmic rays are much more likely to be the real causes of global warming.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "i suggest you visit this site with an open mind, you might find a few things there that will inform you on the current state of climate science, and why we know its not sunspot, or total solar irradiation, or uv rays, or cosmic rays.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "because galactic cosmic rays have likely decreased in intensity over the last century, this hypothesis, if true, could partly explain 20th century warming, thereby upsetting the consensus view that greenhouse-gas forcing has caused most of the warming.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "svensmark was not studying climate but cosmic rays (iirc) when he noticed a correlation between sunspots, which affect the impact of cosmic rays on the atmosphere, and climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "people who reject climate science often point to cosmic rays, based on some spurious correlations, but i do not know of any serious climate scientist who thinks that cosmic rays are a major climate driver.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming i do refute that galactic cosmic rays have anything significant to do with the current observed global warming trend.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "wait till you see the article of the research by finnish scientists who discovered global warming, or cooling, is actually caused by the amount of cosmic rays that hit earths atmosphere.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming today I learned cosmic rays seed cloud formation and may be directly responsible for climate change,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "and yes, there are cyclic factors like solar activity that affect climate; but its fairly straightforward to show that current climate is only partially affected by solar activity and other factors like cosmic rays.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "however, the recent trend in cosmic rays is also the opposite of what it would need to be, to have caused the recent warming",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays have an interesting relationship with temperature also.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "and if any form of cosmic rays or sun spots were causing the warming we would expect to see warming throughout all layers of the atmosphere, from the surface all the way up to the upper atmosphere (stratosphere).",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming henrik svensmark - galactic cosmic rays cause climate change,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming climate change is a result of our weakening shields against the bombardment of cosmic rays.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "really, hes written 4 papers on why cosmic rays are totally important to global warming.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming now new research shows cosmic rays are causing increases in low lying clouds which cause the warming we see (from japan).,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming a paper published today in the journal of atmospheric and solar-terrestrial physics finds another potential solar amplification mechanism mediated by galactic cosmic rays [gcrs] (and distinct from svensmarks cosmic ray theory of climate).,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cern has already shown us that cosmic rays affect clouds which affect global temperature.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the temperature may be rising, but its not from co2 but a completely natural an unavoidable cause (like sunspots or cosmic rays or milankovic cycles).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "lol lorne gunter...yeah lets not forget this is the same guy who thinks that cosmic rays cause global warming, using a cell/texting while driving is safe and the laws around it are bad, does interviews with rebel media, and left the national post for sun media....so yeah...",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "mainstream climate science ignores a large part of solar radiation, such as x-rays and cosmic rays, and ignores atmospheric electromagnetic and friction heat generation and assumes all warming from those sources is caused by humans.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the dirtier little secret among climate scientists is that anything mankind does has neglible effects on climate compared to the amount of cosmic rays reaching the earth,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming all the same a future magnetic reversal and associated increase in background cosmic rays (& other effects ) would not and does not explain the changes in climate parameters during the course of the last century.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming scientists do very much include solar and cosmic ray influences in climate models.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming """professor sherwood is scornful of the idea that the chapter he helped write confirms a greater role for solar and other cosmic rays in global warming.""",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there is also the ""cooling stars"" theory associated with svensmark, and partly confirmed by cern (strong evidence that svensmarks solar cosmic ray theory of climate is correct), suggesting changes in sunspot activity affect the incidence of cosmic rays reaching earth, which in turn affects cloud formation.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming there is no indication that the effect of cosmic rays is nearly strong enough to impact the climate in the way weve seen.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming there have even been laboratory studies on this and the outcome was that there was limited potential for cosmic rays to be associated with the current warming trend.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "rojus comment is regarding deniers claiming climate change is caused by ""cosmic rays"", that is a different topic entirely.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming variation in cosmic ray flux and global cloud coverage - a missing link in solar-climate relationships,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "moreover, it is believed that the sun can influence the climate also via a magnetically induced cosmic ray flux modulation (kirkby 2007)",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "actually earths position [relative to clusters of stars in the rotating spiral arms of our milky way galaxy affects the number of cosmic rays hitting earth, which affects cloud formation, which affects climate in a repeating cycle on scale of 10s of millions of years.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "lower magnetic field strength from pole movement, and worst case, a pole inversion, allow more charged particles and radiation from the sun and cosmic rays to impact our climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "other types of solar activity, such as solar flares and cosmic rays, dont demonstrate any obvious trend or any significant effect on temperature.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there are some scientists like richard lindzen that claim that differences in cosmic ray output have a cloud seeding effect and can regulate warming through changes in albedo, but again this is basically a pet theory that has very little empirical support and his work has been corrected many times for major methodological flaws that he has acknowledged.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming theres no evidence that cosmic rays have a significant impact on climate or can be attributed to current warming.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming this does not say cosmic rays are directly linked to climate.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "let me repeat this, just so you understand: even if there is proof of a link between cosmic rays and cloud nucleation, this does not invalidate agw theory in any way as we already know that cosmic ray/solar activity is not responsible for the current warming, as they do not correlate.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming there has been no warming in recent years because we have had increased cosmic rays due to an inactive sun having less sunspots.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming """the existence of a physical mechanism, which is **sufficiently strong**, indicates that the deduced inverse correlation between solar cycle length and long term variations in global temperature [friis-christansen and lassen 1991] may be related to long term variations in the solar modulation of cosmic ray flux.""",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "so yes, cosmic rays do affect our climate, but no, they do not affect it anywhere near enough to explain current warming trends.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming skepticalscience does a good job of explaining why dr. svensmark is incorrect: [whats the link between cosmic rays and climate change?,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "space, the sun, the galaxy, magnetic fields, cosmic rays, albido from clouds, and volcanoes have much bigger impacts on climate than freaking suvs.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "he cites both the vertical oscillation (as discussed here) and movement in and out of galactic arms as having an effect on the level and type of cosmic rays, which he asserts has an effect on the climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the umbrella effect caused by galactic cosmic rays is important when thinking about current global warming as well as the warm period of the medieval era.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "i dont know why you think we cant find evidence for or against a major solar influence on modern climate, there are several ways you can investigate the effect, either through comparing temperature records with solar variations, or through modeling the effect of tsi/cosmic rays etc.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming he is known for his theory on the effects of cosmic rays on cloud formation as an indirect cause of global warming.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this result indicates that the amount of incident cosmic rays decreases due to fds, global average temperature increases ",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "in our simulations, changes in ccn from changes in cosmic rays during a solar cycle are two orders of magnitude too small to account for the observed changes in cloud properties; consequently, we conclude that the hypothesized effect is too small to play a significant role in current climate change.""",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cern ""gags"" physicists about role of cosmic rays in climate change",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "similarly, cosmic rays (like solar wind, or radiation from other astral sources) have been identified as a source of global temperature increases.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming i just read an article that most climate change is due to cosmic rays and other shit we cant really control.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming there is no correlation between cosmic rays and temperature.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "and compared with the temperature variations seen on short timescales as a consequence of the suns influence on the influx of cosmic rays, the heating and cooling of the earth due to cosmic rays varying with the prevailing supernova rate have been far larger.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming be nice if they mentioned the fact that the sun drives weather on earth... the effects cosmic rays and solar cycles have on climate...,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "any natural warming process - whether driven by solar cycles, earth orbital changes, cosmic rays, etc - is a top-down heating.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "while the sun obviously drives climate, the link with cosmic rays has not yet been proven; nonetheless, it would be very, very useful to see a detailed cosmic ray record for the area immediately around earth.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the statement ""the largest contribution to total radiative forcing is caused by the increase in the atmospheric concentration of co2 since 1750"" does not take into account variations in solar radiance, cosmic rays etc, nor does it claim that the forcing of 1.68 w/m2 is the cause of warming over the last two decades.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming (1) claim a significant causality between cosmic rays (crs) and interannual variation in global temperature (δgt) by using convergent cross mapping (ccm) (2).,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming lets face it that top scientists like the chief of cern have come out and said climate change happens because of cosmic rays and other things of external nature like the sun(you know the big giant ball of flames that earth is orbiting).,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "recall that most of these models ignore clouds all together, which is way further upstream and matters much more in the overall process, and when they ignore things like how cosmic rays induce clouds you get the sense they are ignoring many other potential explanations in favor of one that politically fits their funding streams.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there was one idea that cosmic rays were making more clouds, causing more warming, but that didnt pan out and even then (non-cloud) water vapor was just a feedback.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming neither does our analysis confirm a hypothesis that the iron meteorite data indicate a 150 million year periodicity in the cosmic ray flux possibly related to variations in the long-term terrestrial climate.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "another indirect solar influence undergoing research is svensmarks cosmic ray theory, in which solar modulation of cosmic ray intensity may influence cloud cover sufficiently to account for the warming trend.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming location closer to supernovae + star clusters = more cosmic rays hitting earth = more ionization in atmosphere = more clouds = lower surface temperature.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "after few years of hearing global warming on the news, all of a sudden it shifted from global warming to climate change and it was so strange to me, because the climate changes all the time, calling it climate change would engulf any and all climate changes, so this really seemed suspicious and i got on the internet again and looked deeper and i would find out about these carbon trading schemes with private companies running it and learned about watergate and all the fake science or overblown stats and decided its a bunch of crap some powerful elites and big oil want to push on everyone and that it wont fix global warming even if it was real, but by that time i learned that it was fake and overblown and that the climate is warmer by for other reasons like cosmic rays and the 1500 years climate shifts that happen naturally and had nothing to do with carbon dioxide or man.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "it does not invalidate the observed correlation between the amount of cosmic rays, lower cloud formation, and temperature as observed by henrik svensmark.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming when water vapor in the air and cloud formation (via solar winds and cosmic rays) make up 80% of the temperature changes....,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there seems to be evidence that theres more going on with the climate than just what humans can influence (cosmic rays, exothermic core cycle), but its not really my field.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming [there is little evidence for a connection between solar activity (as inferred from trends in galactic cosmic rays) and recent global warming.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "support for key elements of this scenario is provided by graphs illustrating the close correspondence between global low-cloud amount and cosmic-ray counts over the period 1984-2004, as well as by the history of changes in the flux of galactic cosmic rays since 1700, which correlates well with earths temperature history over the same time period, starting from the latter portion of the maunder minimum (1645-1715), **and continuing on through the 20th century, over which last hundred-year interval**, as noted by svensmark, ""the suns coronal magnetic field doubled in strength.""",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "do you think that any of them have a convincing explanation for how solar activity and/or galactic rays could be causing the recent warming, when [solar inputs havent been increasin and the recent trend in cosmic rays is also the opposite of what it would need to be, to cause warming?",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "earths temperature has warmed in the modern era as a consequence of the strong solar activity during the 20th century (the modern maximum) shielding cosmic ray intensification and thus reducing decadal-scale cloud cover, which leads to warming via an increase in absorbed surface solar radiation.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "so it is entirely proper to state that the tiny fraction of co2 made by man may contribute, but also at the same time one could hold to the view that co2 in general is not as strong of a driver on temperature change as solar flux variations, variance in spectral radiance from the sun, or the flux of cosmic rays and cloud cover.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "greenhouse effect might exist, but global temperatures are mainly controlled by cosmic rays/the sun and not by manmade co2",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming however as a global warming thing it is going to run into the realization hitting everyone that global warming from carbon is not the proper reason and that sun spot solarcycles and cosmic rays are the prime determiner of warming and cooling cylces on earth as proven by the scientific records over thousands and thousands of year.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cern study finds that climate is affected by cosmic rays but places gag order on the study preventing skeptics from using the data because it doesnt fit the ""man made global warming"" agenda.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the papers citations for cosmic ray influence on climate relate to deep geological events, holocene climate variability, changes over the 11\-year solar cycle, not the warming over the past several decades.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "new evidence suggests that high-energy particles from space known as galactic cosmic rays affect the earths climate by increasing cloud cover, causing an umbrella effect, the japanese scientists concluded, noting that this natural phenomenon, has never been considered in climate predictions.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming he has for a long time now been claiming that global warming is due to cosmic rays.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "for those unfamiliar with this topic, this research seems to correlate with henrik svensmarks theories about cosmic ray effects on climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming where did you get the idea that cosmic rays have anything to do with global warming.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "look again - the y-axis for cosmic rays is inverted on that graph, so that an increase in cosmic rays shows up as a decrease in the value (to indicate its potential effect on temperature).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the problem is that even if cosmic rays do have a signficant effect on cloud cover, and that cloud cover in return has a significant enough effect to cause such warming as we are experiencing now (clouds also have a cooling effect), that is still not enough to prove a corrolation to current and past warming/climate change unless solar activity matches the temperature data, and to my knowledge it simply doesnt.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "in fact cern chief scientist said that 98% of the climate on earth is determined by cosmic rays, but said he doesnt want to further talk about it because its politically incorrect.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "please show us where existing doomsday climate models include modeling of cosmic ray cloud formation, capt.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the main guy proposing a significant effect of cosmic rays on climate is svensmark who argued from experiments that cosmic rays can seed clouds.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays are not driving the current warming trend.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "musk is driven by his fear of global warming, and i like what he does and dont want to lessen his motivation, so i dont show him the latest research on cosmic rays overwhelming affect on planetary temperatures and the solar minimum",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming supposedly proving that climate change isnt happening / is absolutely caused by cosmic rays / is absolutely caused by the clouds / is absolutely caused by chemtrails / is going to end soon because of a grand solar minimum / is actually good because the plants crave carbon / is happening but only because of the yellow people.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "for example, measurements have shown that variations in solar activity plus variations in cosmic rays together cannot account for more than a small percentage of the observed warming.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming i just read an article that most climate change is due to cosmic rays and other shit we cant really control.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming these two effects of weather on ground level cosmic ray indicators would contribute heavily to causing the data changes that this and similar papers use to motivate cosmic ray cause climate variations and have not been taken into account by the authors.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming evidence that galactic cosmic rays affect climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "when galactic cosmic rays increase, so do low clouds, and when cosmic rays decrease clouds do as well, so climate warming may be caused by an opposite-umbrella effect",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "new evidence suggests that high-energy particles from space known as galactic cosmic rays affect the earths climate by increasing cloud cover, causing an umbrella effect.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "as we can observe, these two mechanisms relate the solar activity, the galactic cosmic rays production and the geomagnetic field with the earths climate, by suggesting that all of them can work together and be needed to completely explain the found outcomes.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "however, proper examination of the data shows that the factors affecting cloud cover are strongly dependent on local geography and climate and cannot be simply distilled down to ""less cosmic rays = less cloud cover = more warming"".",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "like a broken record player they all spout the same easily debunked myths and bullshits, every now and then you get a unique bullshit take like cosmic rays are causing the warming and not co2.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "there do not seem to be clear long-term trends in the cosmic ray influxes or in the clouds that they are suppose to form, and his model does not explain (as greenhouse explanations do) some of the observed patterns in how the world is getting warmer (such as that more of the warming occurs at night).",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming and most important when dealing with svensmarks previous papers - there is no correlation at any scale between cosmic rays and temperature - the one where svensmark claimed one was in the end just free-parameters-fitting with the wrong elephant (that is a link to a peer-reviewed paper that destroys his correlation) - which some people would consider borderline fraudulent.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming theres a reason that the ipccs 2020 report is going to be the first to include solar particle forcing data � using the recent relative data set that been available for a couple years now � which many climate scientists around the world have already analyzed and put forth the arguments that suggest overlooking solar particle forcing (along with cosmic rays and the most recent cloud data) has done a great disservice to the field.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "we have multiple lines of evidence demonstrating that whatever the effect of cosmic rays on climate turns out to be, its necessarily small.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming and scientists requested the old model because using the most conservative values for cosmic rays reduced human input as a percentage of climate change by orders of magnitude,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming generate ridiculous ad hoc explanations of how solar irradiance changes from more than 60 years are still causing massive warming now and handwaving away paper after paper showing that attempting attribution of current warming to tsi/cosmic ray changes from 60 plus years ago is a non-starter.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming any climate simulation that does actually take solar forcing and cosmic rays into account equates to a human impact on climate of about zero.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming his main beef with climate science was the science was incomplete because they failed to include cosmic rays and particles into the current models.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "im not an expert but i can tell you that these findings are or will be rejected or ignored by the climate scientists who make up the consensus (scroll down to the ""galactic cosmic rays"" section).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the weakening of the magnetic field affects everything on earth, from climate to genetics (cosmic ray and solar radiation).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming actually studying the interactions of high energy cosmic rays with aerosols in the cern particle accelerators which show that cosmic rays are very unlikely to effect climate.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "if we have had some small effect, and the sun has also had some small effect, and the cosmic wind theory holds water (the idea that the sun having been at a fairly high level of activity over the last 60 years or so had caused more solar wind, and that had reduced the amount of cosmic rays, thus inhibiting cloud formation), then there is a real chance that all of those factors have combined to give us the warming trend weve seen.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming oilcoaltarsands climate denial crock of the week: cosmic rays,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays driving temperature changes has been shown to be false in experiments by cern and others which showed that they play a marginal role in cloud formation,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming nothing in the cern paper says cosmic rays are responsible for the observed warming trend - once again youre cherry picking and misunderstanding things.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming there is no way of mitigating the sun or cosmic rays effects on the climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "a third theory is natural cyclicity + indirect solar influence(uv rays/cosmic rays/changes in earths magnetic field) and recovery from the lia are responsible for the vast majority of the warming, with co2 playing a very small role.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming no other supposed factor like your beloved cosmic rays shows any long-term correlation with temperatures whatsoever.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "2013): ""because low clouds exert a large net cooling effect on the climate, this determines the sign of the possible cosmic ray cloud effect: more cosmic rays are associated with more low clouds and lower temperatures.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cern: ""the new findings point to cosmic rays and the sun , not human activities as the dominant controller of climate on earth.""",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "it starts from a similar point, but in the old papers he managed to claim some correlation from cosmic rays to temperature - which was proven wrong by the overholt paper i linked above since basically he used the wrong time estimates for the moments when our solar system was indeed passing through the spiral arms.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming open science: reply to influence of cosmic ray variability on the monsoon rainfall and temperature: a false-positive in the field of solar-terrestrial research,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "scientist speaks at dutch meteorological institute: the oceans, clouds and cosmic rays drive the climate, not co2",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming american thinker: unsettled science: scientists find hard evidence that cosmic rays influence climate,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "in fact, the ""science"" of climate change requires you to believe in homeopathy, because the whole scam is about assuming that a gas with microscopic concentrations in the atmosphere is the real driver of the climate, while leaving out real agents such as water vapor, sun activity, earths albedo, and cosmic rays.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming """sloan and wolfendale (2013)[34] demonstrated that while temperature models showed a small correlation every 22 years, less than 14 percent of global warming since the 1950s could be attributed to cosmic ray rate.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "they say a supernova at that distance wont harm us, although thats incorrect, since only recently we have learned that cosmic rays affect clouds on earth to such an extent our position around the galaxy as we transit spiral arms correspends precisely with the larger long term temperature cycles as reconstructed from geological sources.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming search for cosmic ray cloud nucleation and climate change Im sure youll find something.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming correlation demonstrated between cosmic rays and temperature of the stratosphere,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "their physics is not completely wrong, there is definitely a link between cosmic rays and cloud cover, which in turn influences the climate.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "all their proposed models and results are correct on their own, but the thing is that they all follow an accord by ipcc where during the data collection, most of the suns, cosmic rays and geological activities impact are to be minimized, thus making the results point to humans activities being the sole factor of climate change.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the relatively weak dependence on ion concentrations indicates that for the processes studied, variations in cosmic ray intensity do not appreciably affect climate through nucleation in the present-day atmosphere.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "our climate is controlled by the sun and the cosmic rays first and then the hydrosphere second (the oceans, rivers, ice caps, snow, marshlands, the water contained in the vegetation and last, but not least the vapour in the atmosphere).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "that said, i think the cosmic ray theory is still very weak when it comes to climate change, and im also not holding my breath for it.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cfcs and cosmic rays cause global warming.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "are you talking about the ""cosmic rays have influence on climate"" theory?",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming svensmarks cosmic ray theory of clouds and global warming looks to be confirmed,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the umbrella effect caused by galactic cosmic rays is important when thinking about current global warming as well as the warm period of the medieval era.""",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming well if you look at the following graph you can see that at best cosmic rays are a small fine tuning knob on the climate,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "hypothetically, an increasing solar magnetic field could deflect galactic cosmic rays, which hypothetically seed low-level clouds, thus decreasing the earths reflectivity and causing global warming.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "however, i would be open to the idea that somehow the increase in charged particles in the earths atmosphere indirectly causes a warming affect through some unknown coupling mechanism (especially through cosmic rays, as mentioned in several publications).",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "he is not the only one propagating cosmic rays as the main cause for warming btw., theres also svensmark.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "of course, to show that cosmic rays were actually responsible for some part of the recent warming, you would need to show that there was actually a decreasing trend in cosmic rays over recent decades �which is tricky, because there hasnt been ",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming several other tests have been described and their results all indicate that the contribution of changing solar activity either through cosmic rays or otherwise cannot have contributed more than 10% of the global warming seen in the twentieth century.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the cosmic rays are supposedly amplifying that effect, yet the measured temperature shows the exact opposite trend.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming """ there are also controversial studies that suggest cosmic rays promote the formation of clouds in the atmosphere; if so, increasing cosmic rays could affect weather and climate. """,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming or you are again pushing your regurgitated crap of cosmic rays on which even svensmark no longer makes any claim related to climate (after being so completely debunked during the last 10 years)?,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "yes the suns energy is decreasing over the last few decades..., which means the magnetosphere decreases, that means increased cosmic rays as they arent held back, which leads to more cloud cover, and then increased temperatures.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "hes saying that solar activity affects climate via the effect of cosmic rays effect on cloud formation - i.e., increased solar activity causes decreased cosmic radiation, which reduces cloud formation, thus increasing temperature.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "just because were starting to know just how cosmic rays affect cloud formation doesnt mean that suddenly, retroactively, cosmic rays have a detectable effect on climate.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "most of the global warming of the 20th century can be explained by the reduction in cosmic rays due to livelier solar activity, resulting in less low cloud cover and warmer surface temperatures.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming they forgot another 2019 point: over 100 new peer reviewed papers that included solar particles and cosmic rays for the first time unable to scientifically link humans to climate change.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "* its warming, but its all part of a natural cycle / cosmic rays",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming not gonna spend an hour listening to this guy but sunspots and cosmic rays actually do have an enormous effect on our climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "scientists gagged from ""interpreting"" study that links climate change to cosmic rays",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "some say the sun is causing global warming (it isnt), others say cosmic rays (its not), others say its natural variation (it isnt), others say it isnt happening at all (it is), some say its slowing down (it isnt), others say there is a conspiracy amongst nasa, the royal society and the worlds other scientific academies (theres not).",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "svensmark published a paper in 2013 with preliminary evidence suggesting that cosmic rays could seed cloud formation, which if true, would indicate that they can influence global temperatures",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming they discovered that the real cause of temperature fluctuations over long periods of time is how much cosmic rays hit earths atmosphere.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "gcr intensity is also highly correlated with total solar irradiance, so the long-term correlation that paper is showing could just be a correlation with tsi and temperature, not cosmic rays.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "how have you eliminated all the other potential causes of warming (the sun, urban heat island effects, clouds, cosmic rays, land use changes to name but a few)?",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the study was about cosmic rays but said nothing about global warming or its causes.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "less than 14% of the observed global warming. carslaw (2009) and pittock (2009) review the recent and historical literature in this field and continue to find that the link between cosmic rays and climate is tenuous, though they encourage continued research.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming atmospheric temperature effect in secondary cosmic rays observed with a two square meter ground-based detector,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the one mistake i see many climate scientist make is discounting the impacts of solar cycle radiation fluctuations, and then also possibly the fluctuations in cosmic rays.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "but again, i dont need the full report to remain skeptical of cosmic rays contribution to climate change, not that they cant have any effect.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming he discovered that cosmic rays play a huge role in controlling our climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the umbrella effect caused by galactic cosmic rays is important when thinking about current global warming as well as the warm period of the medieval era.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "** when galactic cosmic rays increase, so do low clouds, and when cosmic rays decrease clouds do as well, so climate warming may be caused by an opposite-umbrella effect.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "just look at the fury that accompanies any scientist who dares cite anything other than co2 as the sole driver of the climate, like cosmic rays, or aerosols.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming 2016 was the hottest year on record and that matches up perfectly with a cosmic ray low in 1991 paired with a 25 years lag.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the climate in the antarctic stratosphere has been completely controlled by cfcs and cosmic rays, with no co2 impact...""",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "now we have a consensus that co2 levels in the atmosphere determine the temperature of the planet, not other factors, like solar wind, cosmic rays, etc.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "when svensmark proposed that cosmic rays might play a large role in planetary temperature, it was denied that the mechanism would work -- and yet, cern has validated just that basic mechanism.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "in the grand scheme of things, cosmic rays, our irregular orbit from the sun ( its not a perfect ellipse guys, gravitational pull affects it slightly) does more to change the climate over time than anything we can do on the surface.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "ive not looked into that too much apart from the fact that space weather, like cosmic rays are known to affect climate and cloud formation etc.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming new study states no link between cosmic rays and climate change,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming evidence against a long-term control on earth climate by galactic cosmic ray flux,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming new paper suggests cosmic rays may contribute to global temperature (& rainfall) in a significant way,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "vencore weather, a meteorological website, said: low solar activity is known to have consequences on earths weather and climate and it also is well correlated with an increase in cosmic rays that reach the upper part of the atmosphere.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "unless youre invoking some sort of lag response (and i dont see how that would work), you would expect to see a strong 11-year cyclicity in cloud cover and temperature related to the solar cycle, if cosmic rays have a major influence.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming [please note that cosmic rays have been found to have no notable effect on climate on any scale investigated!,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "an opposite-umbrella effect, caused by a decrease in cosmic rays, contributes to an increase in average temperatures.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming do you know that no agw model uses cosmic rays or clouds as variable for climate change?,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "however, climate change is real and is happening, and is to be expected in a universe in constant flux but is occurring for a myriad of causes that extend beyond our planet and human activity--ive been a huge advocate of dr. svensmarks work on cosmic rays and cloud formation ever since 2008 when i first encountered it by accident and it opened the door to true scientific inquiry rather than bloated mouthpieces shoving platitudes about an *inconvenient truth* while jet-setting around the world setting the tone for the discussion.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming we are not even sure what galactic and cosmic rays do to our planet yeah we are going to consider our climate science settled.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "similarly, the recent trend in cosmic rays (which is indirectly related to solar activity) is the opposite of what it would need to be, to cause warming",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "i also believe the conditions affecting climate are complex and not all factors are being considered (like the sun, all types of cosmic rays, vulcanism, etc) or they are underrepresented in the formulas used.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "we know that there is no correlation between cosmic rays and temperature over the variations in cosmic ray flux observed over interannual timescales like a solar cycle, and that the trends are uncorrelated or in opposition over the last several decades.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "theres lots of scientific evidence that shows that we have almost a negligible impact on our climate, and that it is in fact largely controlled by our sun and incoming galactic cosmic rays from the rest of our galaxy.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "if you actually understood the research, youd know that a) scientists have long suspected there were ties between cosmic rays and cloud nucleation, and b) temperatures are not correlating with cosmic rays activity, tsi, or other solar-linked cycles.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the reality is that the long term trend in cosmic rays is flat, so changes in cosmic rays arent responsible for the long-term changes we see in temperature.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "for example, ""the authors argue that cloud cover changes caused by variations in cosmic rays are a major contributor to global temperature increases, and they state that human influences have been exaggerated.""",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "just like solar activity (which is related to incoming cosmic radiation), the recent trend in cosmic rays is the opposite of what it would need to be, to cause warming.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming """new, convincing evidence indicates global warming is caused by cosmic rays and the sun � not humans""",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "during these last 30 years the total solar irradiance, solar uv irradiance and cosmic ray flux has not shown any significant secular trend, so that at least this most warming episode must have another source.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "any natural warming events - whether its increased solar output, orbital changes, shifts in obliquity, increased cosmic rays, etc - would result in more sunlight being absorbed by earth.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming so the sequence is low solar wind leads to more cosmic rays which leads to more low clouds which leads to lower temperature.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming nir shaviv explains the physics behind how the sun and cosmic rays drive the earths climate,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming patrick also mentioned the work done by russians about climate change concerning cloud coverage and cosmic rays that the mainstream science and media refuse to talk about.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "we had a big cosmic ray signal, and the climate ignores it"", dr. alley comments.""",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming your link shows nothing indicating a link between our current warming and cosmic rays.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming both galactic and solar cosmic rays hitting earths atmosphere create aerosols which in turn seed clouds (svensmark et al) this makes them a key component in our weather and climate.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cosmic rays have a recently discovered vital role in planetary temperature via a boosting effect on lower altitude, cooling clouds.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the umbrella effect caused by galactic cosmic rays is important when thinking about current global warming as well as the warm period of the medieval era.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming i believe the article should be about a scientist named henrik svensmark who believes that cosmic rays are causing global warming.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "the observed temperature rise correlates nicely with what would be caused by human impacts, so theres no real need to postulate cosmic rays or some other mechanism to explain it.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming cosmic rays still arent driving climate change,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "while ignoring water vapour, the oceans, clear cutting forests, the magnetic field, the suns cosmic rays all variables that affect the climate and much more that i havent mentioned or humans dont even know exist like we didnt know dark matter existed",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming you had no idea how seriously cosmic rays were considered by the climate science community until i pointed it out to you.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "likewise a hypotheses about cloud formation through cosmological origins (cosmic rays, suggested by svensmark) the yet unproven hypothesis still doesnt explain recent warming.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "a comparison with variations in carbon-14 and beryllium-10 production showed excellent matches between high cosmic rays and cold climates, and low cosmic rays and the warm intervals (bond et al.",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming more like putting heavy spin on the original paper which only really gets into cosmic rays affect on cloud formation and doesnt really touch on the climate issue,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "this led the study to conclude,during these last 30 years the solar total irradiance, solar uv irradiance and cosmic ray flux has not shown any significant secular trend, so that at least this most recent warming episode must have another source.""",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming since cosmic rays are co-located with the strongest warming it is certainly a valid idea that deserves attention.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "what if nature has a special way of using the sun, cosmic rays, water vapour and clouds to regulate the temperature of the planet?",Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "in addition to these multiple lines of empirical evidence which contradict the gcr warming theory, the galactic cosmic ray theory cannot easily explain the cooling of the upper atmosphere, greater warming at night, or greater warming at higher latitudes.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming all of your theories are incorrect in that cloud cover and cosmic rays affect the climate.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming that cosmic rays are climate driver comparable to co2.,Refute,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "so you can bloviate all you want about the science you purport to understand so thoroughly *(another psychological tactic by the climate skeptic crowd)*, but when anyone brings up the 99% of climatologists that agree were heading for catastrophe, you guys want to talk about cosmic rays *(that conveniently nothing can be done about so sit back and enjoy the climate ride)* and �inefficient solar and wind bullshit.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "cosmic rays, i assume your source is ""the sun"" again, otherwise, i have seen no evidence to suggest that cosmic rays contribute to global temperatures.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming a few million years ago there was a massive spike in cosmic rays and temperature did absolutely nothing.,Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming "in fact, if cosmic rays were a major driving force behind climate change, the earth would currently be cooling since cosmic rays have actually increased since 1990.",Support,Cosmic rays do not cause Global Warming the fact is that there is a network of temperature sensors established in 2005 (i believe they are noaa) strategically placed to avoid urban heat islands and other human factors.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "their conclusions include: the urban heat island effect and poor station quality did not bias the results obtained from earlier studies carried out by the u.s. national oceanic and atmospheric administration (noaa), the hadley centre and nasas giss surface temperature analysis.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "and yet to counter the effect of the urban heat island effect, climatologists dont revise urban temperatures down to homogenize with the unpaved outlying areas...they instead revise the outer areas upwards.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "they all know about urban heat island effect, it accounts for nearly all of the warming since 2000, yet they: ",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends i suspect much of temperature change is urban heat island.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "if somebody comes to a climate scientist and says ""what about the urban heat island effect"" then people look into it and figure out that it is accounted for in the models.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends and the contrarian communitys favourite argument of the temperature rise due to urban heat island effect has been thoroughly debunked,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "more likely to be a result of the urban heat island effect combined with solar activity & the increase in size of la in the last ten decades, rather than global warming.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect (uhi) is causing false high readings on those temperature stations.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the wasatch front will get warmer, partly due to climate change, but mostly due to urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "**urban heat island doesnt explain the rapid increase of the average global temperature, co2 does.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the fact that urban heat island is 100% provable with a god damn mercury thermometer and people still deny the human effects on climate and weather is kinda mind blowing.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "look into his surface stations project, meant to be the ultimate proof that climate change stemmed from misunderstanding the urban heat island effect?",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "yes, most of the summer warming is happening at night, and part (but not all) of that is due to urban heat island.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "no world wide conspiracy of scientists, but very suspicious activity of the few scientists in charge of ""adjusting"" the temperature of past data for urban heat island effects and aerosols.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "retroactive manipulation of climate data to ""normalize"" urban heat island effect and revive global warming theory",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends our uhi paper analyzing this indicates that the urban heat island effect on our global estimate of land temperatures is indistinguishable from zero.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i would guess the urban heat island affect has a much stronger direct ""wet-bulb"" temperature affect on humans than any background climate warming.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "except urban heat island doesnt explain the rapid increase of the average global temperature, co2 does.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i think the entire northeast is one big urban heat island, and a decent percentage of the warming we see in the us is a function of that effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the historical human-recorded temperatures fit none of those requirements; in fact they are highly biased samples, the vast majority of them being representative of exclusively anthropocentric micro-climates (and not just ""urban heat island"" -- though of course that is a major problem -- but so called ""rural"" sites are far from ""untampered"" or ""unaffected"" by human activities around them, and therefore are not ""unbiased"").",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect is already accounted for in the temperature record.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "temperature increases due to co2 should average out just about 0.1 degrees c per decade over a century time frame, though its accelerated a bit since 1980 its still far below (0.18 degrees c / decade, and some of that is probably hidden urban heat island effects as the warming rate from weather balloons and satellites is lower than the urban ground stations) the rate seen in the peak temperature record.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "global warming ""deniers"" have known for many years that a significant fraction of ""global warming"" is urban heat island effect upon urban and suburban sensors.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect is real, but luckily there are quite a few weather stations outside of urban areas that can be used as controls, and conclusively show the globe is warming up.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "there is no global warming, only large amounts of urban heat island effect, but uhi doesnt sound scary and is easily fixable",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "and again, you say ""urban heat island effect"" instead of what actually happened where they used data from temperature sensors near ac exhaust vents.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urban heat island effect skews the temperature data of a significant number of weather stations,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "an urban heat island is important with regards to climate change because it represented (historically) anomalous readings of the heat records, as cities are significantly hotter than their surroundings which *may* have led to an unrepresentative average when measuring the climate.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the complex phenomenon that drives up temperatures is called the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the number of times a buddy of mine who does climate science research has been asked ""well, what about the urban heat island effect"" makes his head spin.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends now this isnt exclusively global warming - urban heat island effect is for sure a major contributor.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends global warming is not at all the same as the urban heat island effect.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "of course there is an anthropogenic part, the urban heat island effect, but this is local climate, thats what we have to take care about.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends concerns have been raised about possible contribution from urban heat islands to global warming.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect is a real thing, and is probably actually leading to warming more than any co2 going up.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "third, considering the rampant urban heat island effect that los angeles suffer occams razor favors that explanation over ""global warming"".",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "well, this fits very well with what ive said for 25 years - that were seeing urban heat island effect more than ""global warming.""",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "he has claimed quite concurrently that the sun was causing the warming and that there was no warming, just the urban heat island.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i will say that this is partially due to climate change, but a large amount of this heat (at least from what i experience here in tempe) is due to urban heat island effect",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "and none of the adjustments take out a gradual urban heat island (uhi) warming around thermometer sites, which likely exists at virtually all of them, because no one yet knows a good way to do that.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "many average temperatures are taken from cities, where the urban heat island effect screws with data.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island is a contributor to climate change.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i think is point is that the urban heat island effect is real, but its not a significant cause of global warming.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i do think he sort of contradicts himself a bit by acknowledging a 0.6°c warming, but then saying warming of minimum temperatures is due to the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "7) the urban heat island effect only affects a handful of stations around the planet, and thats accounted for in the climate summary.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect is taken into account in temperature series.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends a google search brings up references to the urban heat island effects influence on the trend in global average temperature.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "another blow to climate ""skeptics"": the urban heat island effect is not the culprit",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "also reduces the urban heat island effect, which is really useful in this time of rapid climate change.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "and the other was that they had found no indication of urban heat island effects, which is even stranger because these are so easily seen in common, everyday temperature maps.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect is warming up some us cities faster than climate change alone would.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "urban climate denialist claims 0.7 degrees of global warming is more important than 2 - 3 degrees warming of the urban heat island, with some special pleading about a ""period of interest"".",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "between solar changes, whatever the hell causes bond events, changes to datasets both intentional (like hansens constant tweaking) and unintentional (urban heat island), a healthy dose of hysteria and the blind assumptions that all unknowns must reinforce the hypothesis (like assuming anthropogenic aerosols to explain the cooling of the pdos cold period) ...its hard to know wtf is going on with the certainty bandied about by these climate ""scientists"".",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "yes, deforestation is a huge issue, and the urban heat island effect exacerbates things in cities, but what you are seeing in the pnw is climate change in action.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "fyi the increases in the last 20 years of your graph are largely from putting 80% of new temperature measuring stations too close to urban heat island sources such as air conditioners, buildings, asphalt, etc4.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "probably at least half of the warming can be attributed to the urban heat island effect, although im not sure how tokyos infrastructure has changed over the years.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends here is a brief description of the urban heat island effect and why many doomer climate predictions were wrong: (urban heat islands can alter temperatures thousands of miles away from a city),Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "maybe solar tsi and magnetic flux caused half a degree of warming over the last 100 - 140 years, and urban heat island effects, combined with poor citing of temperature stations distorting the temperature record, account for 75% of the perceived warming.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "since most of the earth is water, and most of the land is not paved, the urban heat island effect is not enough to cause climate change.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i would say that noaas flawed use of karls proposed sea surface temperature adjustments, in addition to the urban heat island effect and dodgy extrapolations from less than 50% of global land coverage resulted in a ""warmest october on record"" rather than the actual data supporting that case.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "carbon has nothing to do with our emergence form the ""little ice age"", local warming is easily explained through urban heat island effects.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the ipcc also noted that urban heat island effects on local climate appear to include changes in precipitation, clouds, and daily temperature range.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect will make climate change worse in cities than raw temperature increase numbers make it seem.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "they use surface temperature data which is influenced by a number of external sources such as the urban heat island effect, poor quality instrumentation and a lack of measuring stations requiring massive infilling.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the fact that nights are warming up faster than days has nothing to do with the urban heat island (not ""index"", you idiot) effect.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "it wasnt even 10 years ago that the skeptics were saying that the readings at these stations were only going up because of things like ""urban heat island effect"" and that the earths temperature wasnt actually rising.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "reasons like: measurements of temperature change were done within cities and the urban heat island effect can skew this data, water vapor wasnt taken into account for greenhouse gas measurements, when he was young ""global freezing"" was the big scare.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i do think there is some doubt regarding some of the recorded temperatures (urban heat island effect, etc) -- which should be accounted for, but it would be foolish to presume that they have been.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat islands are a much stronger effect than global warming.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "first, he highlights the urban heat island effect. crichton explains that cities are often warmer than the surrounding countryside and implies that observed temperature increases during the past century are the result of urban growth, not rising greenhouse gas concentrations.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "also, the record breaking temperatures weve had over the last decade is mainly urban heat island effect and does not imply geologic shifts.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends """while urban areas are warmer than surrounding rural areas, the urban heat island effect has had little to no effect on our warming world because scientists have accounted for it in their measurements.""",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "if the temperature anomaly that is reported is off by 50% or 66%, which i suspect, and more of the actual anomaly is due to urban heat island effect and land-use changes, as i suspect, and some is due to a change in solar activity (and the corresponding effect on cosmic wind/cloud formation), as i suspect, then there isnt much effect left for co2 to be causing.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "its hard to go from urban heat island effect straight to global warming, but people try.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "however, the contribution to global warming from the urban heat island effect is essentially zero.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "actually, all major temperature datasets adjust temperatures to compensate for the urban heat island effect.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "you might also want to consider a phenomenon called the ""urban heat island"" and think about what it might have to do with temperature numbers people are presenting you with.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "its a bit like someone saying there is no climate change because volcanoes, el nino, solar flares and the urban heat island, the accusation takes 10 seconds, but to unpack it, and discuss it meaningfully would take 10 minutes.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends however the temperature datasets do normalize the data to filter out the urban heat island effect.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "all of this being said, if half of our warming thus far is natural, and half of what is being shown as ""warming"" is climate change advocates making adjustments because they are true believers and really want people to know that were in danger, and land-use changes, urban heat island effect and equipment error are responsible for some amount of warming, the role of co2 is likely to be much smaller than they say it is.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends watts has been claiming for over a decade that global warming is entirely due to the urban heat island effect skewing weathers stations.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "thats the ""urban heat island effect"" and it does have some effect on global warming.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urban heat island may have an effect on global warming.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "when i get an argument from them that dismisses climate change, like the urban heat island effect, my approach is to dig into it and learn more.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends study: the urban heat island effect distorts climate change claims,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "that being said, the urban heat island effect has often been used to show just how misconstrued the data supporting global warming is.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "skeptics of course dont mention the fact that, when calculating temperature trends in australia, we revise many of our urban observations down, in order to account for the urban heat island affect.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends (how advocates of anthropogenic global warming debunk the urban heat island effect),Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "ok, this fucker (the article writer not you op) literally gave evidence supporting climate change and is trying to spin it as ""urban heat island effect""",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the ""urban heat island"" argument, for example, belongs to denial of global warming itself (it is a claim that the measurements are biased and that the true average would not show the ""hockey stick"" shape curve), and wouldnt make sense in the other context.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "in fact this statement right here, *""the team found that the urban heat island effect is locally large and real, but does not contribute significantly to the average land temperature rise, as the planets urban regions amount to less than 1% of the land area.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "no, im saying that data set is rubbish, for reasons well documented, the surface data sets both show far more warming than the satellite data - basically a combination of urban heat island effect, shoddy instrumentation and outright fraud.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends likely these high temperature measurements are coming from urban areas influenced by the urban heat island effects.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "unironically, there are gross uncertainties, errors, and systemic bias at every single level of modern establishment climate ""science,"" from severe conflicts of interest in the field (academics need to seek out funding and cant get it if they dont march to the beat of the agw drum) to ideological puritans having an absolute monopoly on almost every single academic institution trying to tamp down dissenting, yet valid research (cru east anglia is a good example) to systematic biases towards warming in the underlying dataset (urban heat island effect) to the manipulation of the raw data itself in the form of ""adjustments"" that have a very clear bias towards making earlier years colder and later years warmer.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "urban heat islands certainly do exist, and they certainly do contribute to warming to some amount, but exactly how much is difficult to determine, and i dont think we have evidence that ""most"" of the warming is due to expansion of the city.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the problem is with urban heat island effect, so if the station was in a field 100 years ago, but now had a supermarket on one side and a black asphalted parking lot on the other - it will show you a 1-2 degree warming.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urban heat island is a real phenomenon but youre greatly overestimating its effects on climate.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends and science has no idea how to adjust warming trends to account for the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "and the [latest, most comprehensive analysis of temperature data shows that 1/2 of measured warming was artificial actually from ""data adjustments"" and urban heat island effect of placing measuring stations near urban heat sources, like this",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends this was because they instituted a strong adjustment procedure to account for the urban heat island effect but did not sufficiently account for site changes over time which had acted to systematically and artificially reduce apparent warming.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "climate change is claiming that the various hotspots around the globe are one big problem when in fact it is a couple hundred much smaller problems (all the same one problem, urban heat island effect, but in a couple hundred locations); as i previously pointed out� we can actually fix it",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends they found that temperatures are indeed rising rapidly and that the urban heat island effect makes little difference in global temperatures even without adjusting for it.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "and that the urban heat island effect is making record temperatures higher than they would be with proper station sites and again, theres no doubt that this is ""anthropogenic"" in nature.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the ipcc claims that the urban heat island effect has zero effect on their temperature readings.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "you certainly dont get that idea when the largest agw denial websites, and the source of most denialist arguments, go all in on ideas like the urban heat island effect explaining any rise in temperature, or that on some particular day in april of 1984 there was more arctic sea ice than the same day this year.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends *sigh* the berkeley earth surface temperature specifically was set up to account for urban heat island it was even discussed directly in that video by muller.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "furthermore, when those same tree-ring data actually showed a decline in temperature for the past several decades, mann and his co-authors simply hid the decline by grafting direct measurements (inadequately corrected for the urban heat island and other effects) to his flat tree-ring line.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "and yet, the surface temperatures in areas with high density populations and eveloped infrastructure consistently report higher temperatures due to the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "if we ignored the milding of winter lows, and only concentrated on the increase in daytime high temperatures, outside of cities where the urban heat island effect is working, wed not be able to claim the hysteria that we do because of ""average temperature anomaly across the globe.""",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "only on the days its not onshore at first light... congrats on the urban heat island, happy climate change everyone!",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "a mixture of the sun, a modified temperature record, poor positioning of temperature stations, urban heat island effect, milankovich cycles, and a whole lot of expansion of cities and paved/concreted surfaces.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "even if you dont want to accept that the temperature record has already been corrected and verified many times to avoid problems related to urban heat island, how do you explain satellite measurements?",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends (urban heat islands dont explain climate change heres the bigger problem) while it is clear from your video in the raw data the effect shows up convincing procedures have been devised that discount warming can be ascribed to urban heat islands.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends **note**: this dataset does **not** account for warming due to urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "urban heat island effect plays a big role in city heat than global warming, though both are of course a major threat.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "he was suggesting that we need to question how the data is collected to account for other things that could contribute to warming indicators (the urban heat island effect, for one.)",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urban heat island fallacy of global warming.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect is what causes the data to read a rise in global temperature.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends nasa isnt fraudulent for learning about urban heat island effects and adjusting temperatures.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "old temperature time series (like this one from 1722 in my town) have all kinds of issues, including a growing urban heat island effect (which creates *fake heating*).",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "they take the average temperature from thousands of weather stations, including ships and buoys, accounting for things like the spatial distribution of the stations, things like the urban heat island effect etc.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "**the intergovernmental panel on climate change (ipcc) has concluded that the impact of urban heat islands on temperature records is ""real but local,"" and has only a negligible effect on regional or global trends**.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends and again - the fact that nasa adjusts temperatures for urban heat island effects (essentially lowering temps) is an open and normal part of data analysis.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends also the urban heat island effect doesnt actually cause climate change.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends ">while urban areas are warmer than surrounding rural areas, the urban heat island effect has had little to no effect on our warming world because scientists have accounted for it in their measurements.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends hellers point was that the record temperature reading was exaggerated due to the urban heat island effect because it was placed near a road ,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "most temperature datasets have been adjusted to factor out the urban heat island because unless youre trying to see the true temperature at a specific station, its a large source of variability and change that doesnt apply to the larger region.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i said that you were wrong in stating that climate change wasnt a culprit, which it more than likely is, which is evident in areas like maricopa, and pima county, which dont have to contend with the phoenix urban heat island, but have seen so much rain that they now have new ground faults.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "urban heat island effect skews the temperature data of a significant number of weather stations...""",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends and they dont adjust local temperatures down for urban heat island (since that really is the temperature in the city)...they only do that when trying to work out the overall surface temperature.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends where you see major warming trends youre almost always going to see an urban heat island.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island might effect some stations data but it effects a pretty small surface area of the earth so shouldnt have a big influence on that 0.6°c warming hes acknowledging.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect exists insofar as a city is more likely to be hotter on a hot day, but the heat island effect doesnt affect temperature trends because, to get the trend, the anomaly for each station is found and then those anomalies are averaged.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "love how deniers simultaneously get mad at climate scientists for supposedly relying on skewed data when it comes to the urban heat island effect, for example, but then also get mad at climate scientists when theyre like ""hey this datas messed up, dont use it""",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "so why, in preference to a data set widely respected as the worlds longest continuous temperature record, did the met office rely on one very much shorter, which may draw on many more weather stations but which has long come under fire for the questionable siting of several of its thermometers, and where readings can be seriously distorted by local factors such as the urban heat island effect?",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "no, scientists are very aware of the existence of urban heat islands and [not only do they adjust for this, they also take lots of temperature measurements including from thermometers located far from cities",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends it would certainly reduce the urban heat island effect which is the basis for most of the climate hysteria.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends they dont adjust local temperatures for the urban heat island effect because thats the real temperature in the urban area.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends this is the urban heat island effect that the climate alarmists say plays no role in the higher urban temperatures.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "if you look at this chart, comparing almost 200 years of temperature data between two locations only 50 miles apart, you will see the obvious ""urban heat island effect"" that causes weather stations to record hotter temperatures due to increasing human development in certain areas the ""urban"" designation is something of a misnomer, as a weather station can easily be [affected by suburban land-use changes as well",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "urban climate denialist claims 0.7 degrees of global warming is more important than 2 - 3 degrees warming of the urban heat island, with some special pleading about a ""period of interest"".",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "* asphalt pavement (mainly), and dirty portland cement concrete pavement (lesser extent) contribute to the urban heat island effect, increasing local temperatures within and close to the urban area and the ground, but not affecting that much a the global scale in comparison to greenhouse gasses in general.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "oddly, you forgot to cite the distribution of all climate measuring stations, to prove that they are all (every one of them ) impacted by urban heat island effect, rather than just some, as detailed by the pre-existing papers.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the only sample that we have as granular as by-the-year temperature data, is in fact the last 200 years (and theres even some major issues with our data collection re: the urban heat island effect).",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the claims that are made are misleading because temperatures are adjusted to account for the urban heat island effect so of course it will see little variation, it has been adjusted to do so.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the difference here is the ""urban heat island"" effect, which climate modelers have said they have accounted for, but the only way to do that is by fudging the numbers.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends our uhi paper analyzing this indicates that the urban heat island effect on our global estimate of land temperatures is **indistinguishable from zero**.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "this graph of global temperatures, taken just high enough in the atmosphere to eliminate localized urban heat island effects, show that if you start at the very bottom of the temperature dip of 1989 (the 1970s and 80s were anomalously cool) and measure into 2019, we had a temperature jump of about 0.8 degrees over 30 years, not ""1 to 7 degrees"".",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island has a negligible if any effect on global temperature.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect doesnt account for all the warming.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends most of the modern warming is from the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "what youre talking about (which is referred to as the urban heat island, or uhi, effect) is already taken into account in the various temperature records.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "also, most land based temperature records show an artificial upward trend due to the urban heat island effect, regardless of whether there is actual warming or not.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urban heat island effect only affects temperature a couple of degrees.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends """the intergovernmental panel on climate change (ipcc) has concluded that the impact of urban heat islands on temperature records is ""real but local,"" and has only a negligible effect on regional or global trends.2 the ipcc also noted that urban heat island effects on local climate appear to include changes in precipitation, clouds, and daily temperature range.""",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends it sounds like they are arguing over global climate change vs the urban heat island effect.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "some of that increase is because of the urban heat island effect, which is tied to development and paving surfaces with heat-absorbing materials, but substantial warming is also linked to increasing atmospheric concentrations of heat-trapping gases from burning fossil fuels.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "you see, as the 20th century was ending, real climate scientists understood that our old temperature recording stations were increasingly corrupted as infrastructure grew up around them, or new stations added which were intentionally built to include urban heat island effect for specialized purposes like aircraft operations.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "they cover the land and sea, they arent susceptible to urban heat island effect, local climate changes etc.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "denialists conveniently criticize climate science when they dont take urban heat island effect into account....and then when they do, they still criticize and say theyre manipulating the data.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "true, however the temperature datasets do normalize the data to filter out the urban heat island effect.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "wheres the graph that shows the increasing concentration of the use of temperature readings from thermometers that were intentionally placed in locations with known unnaturally higher temperatures such as airports to keep planes crashing due to entering hotter air from tarmac heating and jet exhaust or ""urban heat island"" thermometers that are used to predict increased power usage in cities with elevated temperatures do to already increased power usage?",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "all the evidence points in one direction: a rate of warming since the industrial revolution that cannot be accounted for by the urban heat island effect, solar cycles, inconsistent temperature recordings, or previous cycles of warming and cooling.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends thats not surprising due to urban heat island and the fact that we are expecting warming coming out of the little ice age anyway.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "other than saying that warming is an artifact of urban heat islands (which its not, see above), nothing in that post i just point-by-point responded to says anything about any of the bullets in my last post.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends temperature data has up until recently been recorded from urban centers which are 2-6 degrees warmer due to the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "in fact, you can download and view the exact code used to correct for the urban heat island effect in climdiv, the official us ground based temperature set.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends science has no idea how to adjust warming trends to account for the urban heat island effect,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "you do know that temperature readings are corrected for the urban heat island effect in all major data sets out there, right?",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect is a great way of increasing temperature, as is desertification by overgrazing.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends also the homogenization in the urban areas shouldnt be raising temperatures to account for urban heat island affect.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends i do not think such urban heat island effects or observer biases is responsible for the entire global warming record.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "that said, most of the temperature spikes that scientists are collecting are factual (most not all, noaa and nasa scientists were caught faking numbers to push climate change), but are being called climate change or global warming when they are actually urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the heat island effect, as i understand it, says that because we measure temperatures close to towns and that over time the temperature around towns has increased due to urban heat island effects then we may be mistaking it for global warming.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends satellite data demonstrates that a 30% change is co2 basically has had no impact on temperatures when controlling for water vapor and the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the extensive and photographically backed classification of the sitting of temperature stations shows a vast amount of warming is contributed the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the surface data is completely unreliable, in 2005 noaa established the uscrn, a system of high accuracy properly sited (not on concrete, not in airports, not subject to the urban heat island effect) weather stations to provide accurate average us temperature.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect is real but doesn’t negate the warming oceans, remote sensed land temperature data, or anything else that corroborates a warming planet.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends majority of temperature sensors where our temp data comes from is in locations effected by urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "and you wont look like the ""experts"" on climate science whose knowledge is limited to ""climate gate"" and some vague notions about the urban heat island effect.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the result was that the two showed almost identical time series (actually the rural showed a little bit more warming) so there apparently was no lingering urban heat island bias in the adjusted ghcn dataset.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends there have also been multiple journal articles that have found the urban heat island affect does not bias the temperature record.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends global climate models tend to be at too large a scale to capture urban heat islands.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends we already have multiple surface temperature records and potential problems like the urban heat island effect have already been investigated and found to be negligible.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends this has undoubtedly created an urban heat island effect that has induced spurious warming in your data.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "he formed a whole team to re-analyze the existing data, being extremely careful to remove the urban heat island effects, but in the end, the temperature dataset they produced still showed warming.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "counter-intuitively, nasa adjusts temperatures up for recent years when urban heat island effects would call for adjusting down.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends because climate change preachers never know about urban heat islands,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the last 20 yrs they have been very quiet, especially in the valley, which isnt due to climate change but the urban heat island which has pushed the storms around the core of the valley.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "what cracks me up is they know about the urban heat island effect, yet they cant connect that that is where the modern warming is from.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends well in some places and those place we thought were warming might actually be bad sensors and urban heat island effects.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "its not quite as bad as climate change denial, but for an approximate analogy, leftists quibbling over the meaning and measurement of intelligence are like conservatives chatting to each other about the urban heat island effect as a reason to doubt that we can even know that the earth has warmed at all �the scientific conversation has moved so far beyond them as to make anything they have to say on the topic irrelevant.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "much of the change is urban heat island, not global warming.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "also, the record breaking temperatures weve had over the last decade is mainly urban heat island effect and does not imply geologic shifts.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends study: the urban heat island effect distorts climate change claims,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends and the record temperatures are coming from city centre weather stations which says more about the urban heat island than the temperature.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "regarding increasing temperatures: some measurements show an increasing temperature, typically measured at surface stations, which are known to be susceptible to the urban heat island effect (which by the way is a real human impact on climate, albeit a very localized one -- lets call it local warming?)",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the term is urban heat island effect, and its not what it responsible for observed warming, because the fact that urban areas are warmer has nothing to do with warming *trends*.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends nasas gisstemp data set doesnt account for the urban heat island effect and it includes the flawed ersst version 4 sea surface temperature data set.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island absolutely plays a part, but the record temperatures in the gulf are stunting monsoon seasons all over the southwest in places not affected by our heat island.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "nasa has been called out on adjusting the data for years, with the very straightforward methodology of taking temperature stations not affected by urban heat island, and adjusting them up to match those which are.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends im still not 100% convinced of carbon emissions climate change but i definitely believe we have permanently changed the landscape that contributes to the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "apparently it used to be more common but due to the urban heat island effect and to a somewhat lesser extent global warming, its pretty rare now.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect contributes about 2 to 4 percent of climate change.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends """flawed or misleading presentations of global warming science exist in the book, including those on arctic sea ice thinning, correction of land-based temperature measurements for the urban heat island effect, and satellite vs. ground-based measurements of earths warming.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the vast majority of the guesstimated warming is probably urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "a much closer look at the iss and nasa data shows that the problem is more likely to be a combination of factors, one of which is the urban heat island effect; temperatures in the various deserts around the world show no increase in temperature since the 1890s.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends many ground thermometers are poorly sited and in increasingly urban area which introduce urban heat island effect into the temperature record.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "also, do some research on urban heat island effect and the easy cure for that which is green roofs also called living roofs and understand that most of the high temps quoted around the planet happen around large cities proving that most of the climate change issue is actually the urban heat island effect",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "as for the temperature record, warming is also being observed over the ocean, well away from urban heat island and microsite influences.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i say that i and my research organization �berkeley earth has looked at data selection bias, at the urban heat island effect, at the poor station quality, at the data adjustment biases; i say we avoided the data secrecy effect by finding ourselves all the data that other groups refused to release, and including it in our analysis; we avoided all the biases in the large global climate models by not using them for our analysis, but by using a much simpler method.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "first create urban heat island, destory natural reserves and imbalance ecosystem and then blame the world for global warming.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "known, and easily more studiable phenomona are the urban heat island phenomon this can explain temperature discrepancies and rising temperatures.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "conversely, if one is interested in the overall global warming trend from greenhouse gases is is important to measure that independent on the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends meanwhile a look at the maps showing the temperature variations over the years proves that the majority of the global warming issue isnt even global warming but is the urban heat island effect which lucky enough can be easily mitigated when a small percentage of the citys roofs are switched from traditional to a green roof,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "temperature measurements are corrected to account for the urban heat island effect (the concrete, exhaust, etc.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "*""homogenization"" is the automatic adjustment of urban instruments to match rural temperatures to avoid urban heat island effects, and this technique is accused of skewing temperatures warm by some",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "in other words, remove the urban heat island effect and the temperatures of the ""all time high"" was not all that different than the temperature of 37 years ago.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "second, the urban heat island effect (which is the phenomenon youre referring to) *is* taken into account in the temperature records.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "3% of the worlds land is urban, urban heat island effect makes a negligible difference to the planets median temperature.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "chinese scientists conclude the urban heat island effect is responsible for much of the observed ""climate warming""",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "urban heat islands can indeed impact the temperatures at an individual monitoring station, but these effects are well understood and corrected for in the global averages.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "urban heat island effects are ignored, and the change in temperature is all attributed to co2.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "overall, the urban heat island effect has not contributed very much to our warming world.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends new paper confirms urban heat island effect and blames it for a stronger impact from climate change on the poor,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends ">moreover, the effects of the urban heat island are making temperature measurements higher, especially when one considers that temperature measuring stations havent moved in the decades since the urban heat island became more pronounced.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "instrumental records are corrected (e.g., the warming trend is reduced) for urban heat island effects, amongst other corrections for station relocations, changes in instrumentation, and time of observation biases.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "look up ""urban heat island effect"", which has a much greater influence in your local temperatures than global warming.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "furthermore, when those same tree-ring data actually showed a decline in temperature for the past several decades, mann and his co-authors simply hid the decline by grafting direct measurements (inadequately corrected for the urban heat island and other effects) to his flat tree-ring line.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect is already accounted for in all the major temperature datasets.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the argument is either that the temperature data is faked entirely, or that its biased (and not properly corrected) due to things like the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i mean, ive seen some skeptics claim that the alleged warming trend simply fraud, some say its within the range of statistical noise, others say that it is just an artifact of the urban heat island effect, others think it is statistically significant but can be explained primarily by the sun or enso; yet others think that its primarily due to co2 but dont think future warming will be as large as the ipcc predicts.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "corrections must be made for uncertainties in the data (for instance, gaps in the observational record, particularly during earlier years) and for systematic errors such as an urban heat island bias in temperature measurements made on land).",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect and poor station quality did not bias the results obtained from earlier studies carried out by the u.s. national oceanic and atmospheric administration (noaa), the hadley centre and nasas giss surface temperature analysis.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "we are still not very good at it, because we mostly measure the surface temperatures in highly altered urban heat islands.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "you need to be schooled the difference between climate change, global warming and urban heat island effect.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "not only is there no evidence for the claim that urban heat islands arent accounted for, the claim that most temperature records are from urban areas, and the claim that the all warming in urban areas is due to the heat island effect, its pretty damn obvious there are plenty of temperature recording stations outside of urban areas.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urban heat island in south korea � responsible for over half of the warming,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends some have expressed concern that land temperature data might be biased due to urbanization effects (see urban heat island effect for more information).,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "if alarmists indeed wish for these to be the uniform rules of the global warming debate, they must concede meteorologist antony watts findings that data reported at surface temperature stations are substantially influenced by the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "including the latest university research that can explain much of the discrepancy between temperature sets, which says our models have dramatically over attributed the significance of ghg on warming and that the urban heat island effect has much more impact on land temperatures which are much more of a threat to our existence.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "they(noaa, giss, etc) actually say the urban heat island effect is a cooling effect in the grand picture... so they adjust the temperature data sets upwards to ""compensate"".",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the skeptics then counter by pointing out that most temperature recording equipment in modern times has become surrounded by urban sprawl over the decades, allowing the urban heat island effect to create an artificial warming trend.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends extensive tests have shown that the urban heat island effects are no more than about 0.05C up to 1990 in the global temperature records used in this chapter to depict climate change.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "take, for instance, their paper on the urban heat island effect watts has long argued that many weather stations collecting temperature data could be biased by being located in cities.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "you can shovel all the hate you want on anthony watts (a professional meteorologist), he received an award from the american geophysical union for this work showing how heat islands are affecting the modern climate data, making the present appear warmer than in reality due to the effect of uhi (urban heat islands) which didnt exist in the distant past.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the problem was that when it was reviewed by fellow scientists, his measurements showed that there was no urban heat island effect creating a warming bias in the data.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i meant to refer to different types of arguments which imply there isnt a warming trend for one reason or another- that the data is within the bounds of random noise, that its solely an artifact of the urban heat island effect, that the scientists have conspired to falsify data, and so on.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "there is no indication major temperature records are corrupted, and numerous studies have shown the urban heat island effect has not skewed the results.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends this is simply the urban heat island effect which the alarmists claim is invalid and does not affect the surface temperature records......,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends c. the urban heat island effect on temperature guages is unaccounted for.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "its not only during heatwaves that we can clearly see urban heat islands, its at any time, and we had those way before global warming hysteria reached present levels.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the official temperature record doesnt take into account the urban heat island effect very well at all, so average temperatures are skewed warmer.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "in any event, anyone talking about test bias post 1990s is like a climate denier talking about the urban heat island effect - hopelessly out of date with the current talking points.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends up to 44% of warming due to urban heat island effect | australian climate madness,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "they go in to urban heat island too - cities are already 2-3 degrees warmer, before you add global warming.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "my claim is that the urban heat island effect has been downplayed and is more impacting of temperature reconstructions than is being admitted, that the effects of homogenization tend to skew the data into a false warming trend, and that the effects of solar changes are responsible for 1/3 of the observed warming.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "urban heat island (local anthropogenic warming) is about 2 or 3 deg c, while global warming (global anthropogenic warming) is about 0.7deg c to date.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "next week, hes going to trot out the urban heat island effect again, then its going to be el nino, then back to ""it hasnt been warming or the past xx years"".",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "they went in expecting to see previously reported global warming was actually poor data analysis or urban heat island effect or something, came out confirming warming was just as bad as previously reported, and could be completely explained by co2 emissions and known volcanic eruptions.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends there is plenty of research done on the urban heat island effect that shows it is not responsible for recent warming.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "they also do nothing to address bias introduced by the urban heat island effect; surface temperature readings will show an increasing trend simply because the stations tend to be located close to urban centres, such as at airports etc, which are growing in size and thus producing a greater heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends only 2.7 of land mass is urbanized and studies so far show very little difference in average temperatures due to urban heat island (uhi) effect compared to rural areas.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i mean, ive seen some skeptics claim that the alleged warming trend simply fraud, some say its within the range of statistical noise, others say that it is just an artifact of the urban heat island effect, others think it is statistically significant but can be explained primarily by the sun or enso; yet others think that its primarily due to co2 but dont think future warming will be as large as the ipcc predicts.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends now i suspect that you are clueless that the urban heat island effect is know and accounted for in the temperature record and is widely discussed in the scientific literature; a simple search reveals just that.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends surface temperatures are affected by the urban heat island effect and other anomalies such as reading time and calibration methods.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends satellite data is the most accurate global measurement tool as it isnt influenced by the urban heat island effect or through data tampering like the noaa/nasa surface temperature data sets.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the temperature analysis produced at giss is compiled from weather data from more than 1,000 meteorological stations around the world, satellite observations of sea-surface temperature, and antarctic research station measurements, taking into account station history and urban heat island effects.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the debunking wasnt that the data from temperature sensors is adjusted - everyone agrees that there are things like removing the urban heat island effects, correcting for the sensors being moved, lost data, etc.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urban heat island has been known about and measured since 1813 (luke howard: the climate of london).,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "assertion #5: ""urban heat island effect skews the temperature data of a significant number of weather stations""",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends * the urban heat island effect (temperature data collected may be unreliable as stations used are affected by expanding urban sprawl: i.e.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect can explain the increase in measured temperature.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "when i researched climate change over the southeast u.s., it was the urban areas that warmed, not the rural areas, which was due to the urban heat island.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urban heat island: raising surface temperatures artificially (5),Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends he made a fundamental error: he computed the arithmetic mean/average of the temperatures **without doing area weighting** and then strongly implied that the decreasing number of stations over time has falsely caused urban heat island effects to make it appear as if there are strongly increasing temperatures.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends except they have to continually adjust the figures and move data collection sites because of flaws in ground temperature measurements such as the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "ah, senior has not read the matthew menne paper which put this anthony watts ""urban heat island myth"" into the trash of failed propaganda long ago.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends this has a warming bias because of the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "including the latest university research that can explain much of the discrepancy between temperature sets, which says our models have dramatically over attributed the significance of ghg on warming and that the urban heat island effect has much more impact on land temperatures which are much more of a threat to our existence.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the extensive and photographically backed classification of the sitting of temperature stations shows a vast amount of warming is contributed the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends also I believe that the urban heat island effect is unaccounted for in analyses of global temperatures,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island (uhi) effect is a well known systematic bias to temperature measurements.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "it should be noted that muller was himself one of those skeptics who propagated the urban heat island myth, just to then set out to ""show"" with great fanfare what everyone already knew: that the surface temperature record was correct.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "therefor i conclude that most likely that it is because of the urban heat island effect, not global warming.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the ipcc fourth assessment report found that the instrumental temperature record for the past century included urban heat island effects but that these were primarily local, having a negligible influence on global temperature trends (less than 0.006 °c per decade over land and zero over the oceans).",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urban heat island influence inadequately considered in climate research,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i think is point is that the urban heat island effect is real, but its not a significant cause of global warming.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "*yes, in many contexts one can use the ""law of large numbers"" to aggregate and then average numbers to discern trends* -- **but the context has to be a homogeneous one, and the sampling has to be a statistically valid representative sample** -- the historical human-recorded temperatures fit none of those requirements; in fact they are highly biased samples, the vast majority of them being representative of exclusively anthropocentric micro-climates (and not just ""urban heat island"" -- though of course that is a major problem -- but so called ""rural"" sites are far from ""untampered"" or ""unaffected"" by human activities around them, and therefore are not ""unbiased"").",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "if all the evidence we had for the mean temperature increase was influenced by the urban heat island effect and none of the climate scientists knew about it or could find any way to factor that in, then that might be a good defense of agw denialism.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends they were particularly suspect of data adjustments and urban heat island effects and how that affected the major temperature datasets.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the fact that nights are warming faster than days even outside of cities is an indication that the warming isnt due to the sun, nor the urban heat island effect.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "yes, but it isnt global warming, the worst part being real scientists and researchers know what the biggest weather issue is worldwide (urban heat island effect) and how to fix it (green/living roofs); but if we fix it than most of the hotspots worldwide are eliminated as hotspots and the media cant keep pushing their ""world coming to an end"" agenda to scare people.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends that the reported warming is due to the urban heat island effect is a talking point for climate change deniers that is easily debunked,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends but somehow the urban heat island effect throws a whole spannar in the climate change theory.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "that effect called an ""urban heat island"" is taken into account in instrumental temperature record.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends if it was an urban heat island effect we would expect temperature anomalies to be restricted to urbanized areas,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "instead of worrying about global warming, worry about single use plastics, urban heat island effect, recycling, industrial pollution in developing nations�",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "this is known as **the urban heat island effect**, which has provided quite a bit of the hockey stick effect of climate change, seeing that most long term temperature measuring stations started out in grassy fields that are now urban areas.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends for instance our temperature recording stations in cities will continue to show a warming trend as cities urban heat island expands.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends " hand-picked rural temperatures (to avoid homogenization/urban heat island issues) and compensating for changes in tsi can result in extremely low ecs of just 0.44 (based on the ""high variability"" hoyt&schatten tsi-estimate).",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "thats right, uhi, which is the urban heat island effect, something that has to strictly cool present temperatures relative to past ones in unbiased estimation of global temperatures ended up warming them instead.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "you mean like how you tried to downplay the effects of fossil fuel emissions on the climate by blaming the urban heat island effect, caused by asphalt, which is a product of petroleum distillation, and claiming that a single volcano emits more co2 than humans do in a few years?",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "exactly how much it has increased is somewhat debatable because early temperature records are sparse and somewhat unreliable, we measure temperature differently now vs the past, and there are ongoing questions about things like the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the temperature records are carefully fine-tuned by data experts to account for factors including the urban heat island effect, instrument sites being relocated, and instrument type changes.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect and poor station quality did not bias the results obtained from earlier studies carried out by the u.s. national oceanic and atmospheric administration (noaa), the hadley centre and nasas giss surface temperature analysis.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the climate science agencies apply homogenization and a 0.3 c adjustment for ""urban heat island effect"" while real world measurements are showing that stations in urban areas and/or at airports report temperatures up to 9C warmer than surrounding rural sites.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "prior to his work with best, he made statements that implied the urban heat island effect and temperature station paucity hadnt been investigated or considered, despite the fact that they have.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "so as cities and their energy usage have grown the **local** high temperatures have increased but do not get ""adjusted"" for the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "and much of the ""average"" temperature increase has to do with urbanization and the urban heat island effect raising night-time temperatures, even as daily maximum temperatures havent really changed.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "when adjusting for the urban heat island effect manages to make it colder in the past, there are serious problems with the adjustments being made to the historic climate records.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends land based warming is in dispute based on multiple studies pointing to inacurrate adjustments made to compensate for the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends """homgenization"" is the automatic adjustment of urban instruments to match rural temperatures to avoid urban heat island effects, and this technique is accused of skewing temperatures warm by",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the dead-eyed stare you get when someone starts talking to you at a dive bar, and they say something about climate change� and you try to tell them all of the science is fraudulent, discounts urban heat island effect, 1960s satellite data, and other uncomfortable truths",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "this includes cooling the past for time of observation bias in filling missing rural data with urban temperatures, and doing almost nothing to compensate for urban heat island effects.""",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "besides, even if the urban heat island effect had global reach, that in of itself is proof that humans can cause climate change.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends they contribute to the urban heat island effect but as far as any effect on the climate system there really isnt any that is measurable.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends most but not all of this warming is explained by the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "that ""altering"" or urban heat island adjustment actually reduces/cools the reported global warming rate.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "they do this by, 1) ignoring the urban heat island effect, and 2) limiting the minimum temperature readings that certain weather stations can reach, artificially boosting the averages.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "they might tell you they question agw today, but then tomorrow bring up the urban heat island effect, which would throw any kind of warming in doubt.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends frontseat just explained to socrates how the well known urban heat island effect is accounted for in temperature averaging and in return gets hit with 10 completely irrelevant links on traffic congestion and other nonsense in melbourne.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "moreover, the effects of the urban heat island are making temperature measurements higher, especially when one considers that temperature measuring stations havent moved in the decades since the urban heat island became more pronounced.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the intergovernmental panel on climate change, using only peer-reviewed data, concluded that urban heat islands caused at most 0.05C of the increase in global average temperatures during the period 1900-1990 � roughly one-tenth of the increase during this period.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the implication here being that observed warming is only, or primary driven by the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "just stick to trumps policy in it, deny that the climate change is real, say thats only the urban heat island effect, bullshit some data from a very specific source to gain credibility, the one i always use is ""the time magazine issue of august of 2012 said that (insert fake claim)"", nobody is going to question it.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "among actual scientists, there is no clash between urban heat island research and global warming.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island is one of the most basic effects climate researchers account for in their research.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends as for the urban heat island effect; it is a well known phenomena which is accounted for in any climate model worth its salt,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "they will rant about the adjustments as proof of a hoax, and then 10 seconds later turn around and claim climate scientists arent taking into account the urban heat island effect.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect plays a surprisingly minimal role in global temperature trends and has been repeatedly found to be a negligible part of the trend.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends i thought that the temperature measurements were inaccurate (urban heat island effect).,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "antarctica has little to no development (no urban heat island effect), is surrounded by water (which the alarmists said was absorbing the surface pause heat, but hasnt been), has very few surface temperature stations, and yet bucks the warming trend.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "ncdc, in processing station data for its u.s. climate divisional dataset (nclimdiv) and global historical climatology network (ghcn), corrects for the urban heat island effect and other changes such as station moves by using a technique that compares each station with multiple neighboring stations to find ""guilty"" stations and calculate the magnitude of necessary corrections.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends built up areas are unrealistic representations of temperature because of the aforementioned urban heat island effect,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends clearly the temperature trend in such an isolated place is far more accurate than land-based stations which are heavily influenced by the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "and if a global warming denier posts that global warming isnt happening because of the urban heat island effect, or volcanic eruptions or solar cycles or scientists manipulating data, their post will be deleted and they will be warned or banned.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i believe much of the warming we are seeing is due the natural warming as continue to move out of the last ice age, deforestation, urban heat island effects, failure to maintain and decommission poorly located recording stations and (it pains me to say it) poor and/or politicized science.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "much of the increase in the annual temperature has been mostly due to the increase in nighttime lows, which is typical of the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "answer: because a few climate deniers try to exploit the urban heat island as some sort of excuse to ""prove"" all the thermometers are wrong.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "none of this following data (the sun, urban heat island effects, clouds, cosmic rays, land use changes to name but a few) corresponds directly with global temperature rise.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "oh, and cities are something like 4 to 6 C warmer than surrounding rural areas, so its urban heat island effect, more than ""global warming"" thats keeping the cities from freezing.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "there is an argument which states that most of the increase in measured temperature has occurred due to human development, due to factors such as the urban heat island effect and so on.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urban heat island effect skews with temperature data ,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "for example, anthony watts famously claimed global warming was caused by the urban heat island effect skewing the recorded temperatures at stations, completely ignoring satellite data, the fact rural stations gave the same result, and that they already took that into account.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends for now the urban heat island effect has much more local influence than overall climate change trends on the temperatures in toronto.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "if urban heat islands were really causing most of the warming, i would expect downtown stations like calgarys to be warming much faster.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect has also been demonstrated over and over to have no significant influence on the surface temperature record.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends I hear of the discovery of the urban heat island effect and its removal from the next version of the published data which cooled the reported warming,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "our instruments are so precise we can confidently say something like the urban heat island effect is very small, estimated to account for less than 0.002 °c of warming per decade since 1900.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "this study led dr. steele to discover that marysville which grew into a larger town owing to nearby beale afb and proximity to sacramento, and orland staying very rural ... this change had affected the marysville temperature data with the uhi (urban heat island) effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "so urban heat island might add a few degrees, especially at night, but its a drop in the bucket compared to climate change.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "plus about 30-50% of current regional climate change (which in many ways is more relevant than global climate change) is being caused by land use change, deforestation, desertification, urban heat island, soil degradation, and disruptions to the hydrological cycle, so renewables wont really help with that side of climate change.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "feel free to provide evidence that this is a lie, because everything that i have read/researched has shown that when you use the most accurate and reliable data and take things into account like the urban heat island effect, the warming trend is somewhere around 0.75c per century.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "ocean temperatures have climbed steadily during the past century, for example — yet this data is not affected by “urban heat islands.” most land glaciers around the world are melting, far away from urban centers.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "now the fun question is, how much of this is the urban heat island effect vs climate change",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends so only 20% can of the warming can be accounted for by the urban heat island effect.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect, and the temperature records have adjust for that bias for years.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "that wont affect global climate as urban heat islands are local heat systems where energy just accumulates differently and doesnt flow out nicely, but the area still receive they same energy input from the sun as they would withot buildings and ther fore wouldnt force the global climate.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "but heres the error: in its early years, the station was not affected by an urban heat island, so temperatures from that period should not be adjusted downward.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "thats only 3% of the current global warming impact, the same sort of level as the urban heat island effect.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "this urban heat island effect pushes local temperatures on average 6 degrees higher than its surrounding rural areas, according to a recent analysis from climate central.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "high temperature records have increased, but thats caused partly by the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends new paper: urban heat island effect accounts for 56% of warming in urban areas over past 55 years,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect (uhie) contaminates the surface temperature data.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "it has long been shown though that the urban heat island effect hardly makes any difference on the observed temperature rise, and the best data has confirmed this once again.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "ancient debunked arguments like ""its the urban heat island effect causing all the warming"" etc.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends concerns from sceptics about the effect of the urban heat island effect on the reliability of the temperature record,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect is well documented and corrected for in temperature records.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the surface temperature records are already adjusted for the urban heat island effect.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "many of the climate models also homogenize data points: extending land temperature readings into the sea (which suffer from the urban heat island effect), or using temperature records from water-intakes that is used to cool the engines in ships.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends most of the warming has been because of the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect has raised temperatures more than anything else in the city.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "however, temperature is officially measured at just a few locations in most cities, so awareness of the extent and variability of urban heat island effects was limited, said lead author brian smoliak.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "of course humans can contribute to climate change, specially regionally (e.g., with urban heat island effect), but i see people here being generally skeptical the central cagw claim that humans are the main drivers of the global tendency towards slightly higher temperatures observed over the 20th century, and that they have done so by changing the levels of an inefficient greenhouse gas that is a trace substance in our atmosphere.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect, and other things, were influencing the temperature recording station data from nasa.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "theyll believe there is no warming, or its a scientist conspiracy, or its all the urban heat island effect, or the sun, or volcanos, or oceanic oscillation, or some unnamed, unidentified, unquantified natural force, whatever they have to believe in the present moment to disagree with librulz.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "but when after two decades people still go to my friends with phds in climate science and say that the measurements are all wrong because of the urban heat island effect, when does the debate stop?",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "a combination of bad data sourcing, mixing known bad data with good data, cherry picking of start years for official records, the known (but overlooked) urban heat island effect, and relying more on modeled temperature data than on measured temperature data.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends one could also argue about the urban heat island effect on land-based temperature stations making them invalid!,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the ""urban heat island effect"" has been well known and well studied since long before climate change came on the radar.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "(doubtless human development/civilization has had an effect on local temperatures, not merely the misleadingly-named ""urban heat island"", but on any/all thermometers and hygrometers located near human activity -- and so the ""homogenization"" based adjustment of urban thermometers with what are called ""rural"" but are often ""suburban"" or ""exurban"" and doubtless more often ""agriculture-influenced"" instruments is a dubious technique; especially when attempting to spot trivial fraction of a degree over a century ""trends"".)",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends a climate change skeptic might think (for example) that the urban heat island effect makes some gargantuan difference in temperature readings and that weve never accounted for it and therefore temperature readings from the 1900s are garbage.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect amplifies warming.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect contributes about 2 to 4 percent of climate change.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "thats if all of our warming today is 100% due to the increase in co2 and none of it is false reporting, adjustment error, urban heat island effect, cosmic rays, change in cloudiness, or a natural warming out of the little ice age.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends you wouldnt believe how many idiots come up to him and say that climate science is incorrect because nobody considered the urban heat island effect.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the extensive and photographically backed classification of the sitting of temperature stations shows a vast amount of warming is contributed the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "they justify reasons for making changes to the dataset (based on changes in observation times, urban heat island effect, etc), and it just so happens that those changes have resulted in warming.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "global warming is a result of co2 (and other greenhouse gas) emissions, not the urban heat island effect",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends i fought to prove that the earth was not warming by helping anthony watts with his surface stations projects which would conclusively prove that it was all hysteria based on misreading thermometers and not accounting for urban heat island effects.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "or that when people die in the thousands in heat waves in cities, global warming is solely to blame, not a combination of global warming(global anthropogenic warming) and the urban heat island(local anthropogenic warming)... thats their choice, but maybe they are in the wrong sub.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends probably more to do with the urban heat island effect than global climate change.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the chemistry of ocean sediments tells us about global temperature - the urban heat island certainly doesnt affect that.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "falsifying the cagw ghg theory, nor is there any consideration that the (trivial) prior 20th century ""warming"" may not have been anything more than an artefact of the way the records were kept and then manipulated (or be related to human development in other ways; as there is not *just* an ""urban heat island"" effect that skewed city-based temperature records {which they only belatedly realized and acknowledged, and then ""accommodated"" via a highly-dubious pile of ""adjustments"" based on similarly poor assumptions}, but there has been a significant amount of various kinds of ""human development"" in suburban, and rural areas which has undoubtedly skewed so called ""rural"" temperature sites as well.)",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "you have no clue how temperatures are recorded, it isnt just plop a thermometer on the ground and hope the urban heat island effect doesnt change things.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "in addition, the ipcc (which is where most of your climate change bogus information comes from) was famous for changing the wording of a 1995 climatology study from ""inconclusive"" to ""definite"", as well as making the false claim of rising sea levels, extreme weather phenomena, and the outdated estimate of the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "second, helps raises the issue of the urban heat island which has absolutely nothing to do with climate change and frankly, **is irrelevant to victoria.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "at that point, the urban heat island effect could increase the wet-bulb temperature to 35 degrees celsius.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "among their findings is this: the urban heat island effect and poor station quality did not bias the results obtained from earlier studies carried out by the u.s. national oceanic and atmospheric administration (noaa), the hadley centre and nasas giss surface temperature analysis.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "many other issues exist - exaggerated climate sensitivity, urban heat island, grafting of proxy temp records, the hockey stick fraud and withholding of data, removal of little ice age and medieval warming period, neglect of numerous solar factors, underestimation of solar irradiance, disagreement of satellite/atmosphere/land temp records, data adjustments, initiation of graphs at 1979 (lowest temp in the 20th century), a mountain of failed predictions, models that systematically overestimate temps, using children as human shields (political, not scientific), unwillingness to debate, pal review, attacking credentialed critics, cherry-picking (greenland ice melt is completely normal but they picked the peak melt day to declare emergency), and ignoring the much higher temps of the recent pase - especially the mid-1930’s.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urban heat island effect is grossly under represented in temperature adjustment algorithms.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect is a well known phenomenon that is erroneously used to prove the existence of climate change,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends whatever the ratio of (among the many positions) between those that merely challenge future predictions versus those that deny climate change theres a healthy number that are specifically deny climate change (or deny the extent of it) for reasons that include pointing to the urban heat island effect.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends but youre right...urban heat island is responsible for most of our warming.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "note that authors hand-picked rural temperatures to avoid homogenization/urban heat island issues, authors would still have obtained low ecs estimates if using an established temperature data set.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "urban heat island always has a much more imminent local effect than global climate trends, and toronto has always had a milder winter relative to the rest of ontario that werent located by the great lakes, further compounded by the fact that [lake-effect snow in this area are statistically more common in the southern shore of lake ontario",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i dont have any sources on me, but there is an argument to be made about the urban heat island effect skewing world temperature statistics.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the idea is that we put thermometers in cities to measure temperature but the urban heat island effect means that these will naturally show warmer temperatures so we cannot actually trust the data that demonstrates higher atmospheric temperatures.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "where anthony watts, who is not a climate scientist, decided to prove that all the surface temperature gauges were being skewed by the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "its not all climate change though, urban heat island effect is a factor in this",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "too many ground based temperature stations are influenced by urban heat island effect to accurately record the temperature for any given area, let alone an entire region.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends at the very least there should be a consistent measurement protocol that eliminates temperature reading anomolies attributed to the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "skeptics use as example, the ""infamous"" hockey stick, the medieval warming period, the tampering of data sets, and the urban heat island effect.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "of course, somehow, the climate models used positive offsets when adapting for the urban heat island effect... meaning they deemed uhi to have a net cooling effect",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "beyond satellite measurements, there are other evidences that the urban heat island effect doesnt compromise station based temperature records.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends i was referring to local high temperature records which are without question tainted by urban heat island effects.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "by the way, it *doesnt* change anything; the ""urban heat island effect"" is supposed to be a bias in **measuring global temperature change**, but its a non-issue",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect has been a huge part of the warming observed.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect exists but it is not the reason for the warming trend ,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends you might ask those who claim that warming is due to urban influences if there are urban heat islands in the sky.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends model global warming models all account painstakingly for the urban heat island effect.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends concerns have been raised about possible contribution from urban heat islands to global warming.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "meanwhile, most of the spikes in temperatures have proven to be the urban heat island effect which even the environmental protection agency says can be repaired or mitigated by converting a percentage of roofs in the cities with that issue to green or living roofs",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect is skewing temperatures has been debunked so many times you should be ashamed to even bring it up.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "authors hand-picked rural temperatures to avoid homogenization and urban heat island issues, but would still have obtained low ecs estimates with other data sets.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "people act like that didn’t happen and it doesn’t mean anything, it does mean something, it means it isn’t one big global warming like the false numbers showed (by filling in spaces of normalcy) and that it is areas of warming, caused mostly by the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends much of the global warming has actually been the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the far more reliable uah has spoken, and according to those 15x nasa/noaa amsu satellites that measure every square inch of the lower troposphere (where us humans reside), earths temperature cooled quite drastically in november (note also that the satellite data is preferable to ground measurements, with the latter susceptible to the urban heat island (uhi) effect ",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect influences the temperatures registered by climatologists on the ground near cities, thats why their data show an increase in temperature.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends uhi (urban heat island) - watts and others have falsely claimed that the planet isnt warming,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "when raw temperature data comes in, nasa bumps it up to account for things like ""urban heat island effect,"" and then we get to 2014 with the coldest winter ever recorded with raw data, but when they ""modify"" the temperature record, it becomes hottest year on record!",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "if urban heat island effect is as large as ive seen (urban areas are several degrees higher than surrounding rural areas) and homogenation effects spread out and exaggerate those errors, and infilling of wilderness areas and ocean coverage from warmer temperature locations, and bogus time of observation and station move adjustments made by algorithm and only checked to see that they match the predicted rise in temp (the algorithmic adjustments that dont match preductions are thrown out), then id suggest that half to two thirds of the warming is indeed ""man made.""",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "it seems like theres a correlation between reducing the urban heat island effect and helping global warming -- if energy is radiated off into space, its not absorbed by the atmosphere.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "also, part of the rise in temperature over time in toronto is due to the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends where they become problomatic is when the temperature sensing equipment that is used to measure global temps is located in an urban heat island the recorded readings do not reflect the cooler temperatures from the surrounding countrtryside.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "so you might have 3 rural stations showing approximately zero warming, plus one urban station showing +3c warming reflecting an urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "such as � the worsening effects of climate heating have become clear in the past few years, as temperatures rise, storms rage and large fires burn, even the temperature record is unclear; where we have the best records, in the united states, the climate reference network uncontaminated by the urban heat island effect suggests cooling.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "as for the reliability of weather stations, there was a huge hoopla about the urban heat island effect a couple of years ago, until it was shown that this didnt skew the temperature readings.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect and other land use changes are acc that have affected temperature records.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends point 3: she claims warming in instrumental records is due to urban heat islands.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "oh hang on anthony watts tried with his surface stations project, where he tried to pin global warming on urban heat island effect, and all he mnanaged to do according to the scientists who reviewed his work is to prove global warming.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "we only found surface-level warming, as might be expected if we had measurement issues or urban heat island effects contaminating the record.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "a previous berkeley earth study, released in october 2011, found that the land-surface temperature had risen by about 0.9 over the past 50 years (which was consistent with previous analyses) and directly addressed scientific concerns raised by skeptics, including the urban heat island effect, poor station quality, and the risk of data selection bias.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends ">temperature readings taken by terrestrial reporting stations are rising because they are increasingly surrounded by roads and buildings which hold heat, the “urban heat island” effect (p. 368-369); methods used to control for this effect fail to reduce temperatures enough to offset it (p. 369-376); ",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends based on two stations with several decades of data (one much closer to the city core); i estimated that about 25% to 33% of the warming was due to the increase in urban heat island.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends unless your talking about the urban heat island effect except that isnt climate change.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "problem is most of the thermometer readings that are so often referenced were/are almost always in or near cities/towns, and so have skewed temperature averages due to the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "urban heat island can only explain why temperatures might vary significantly between rural areas and urban, not the overall warming of everything.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "flawed or misleading presentations of global warming science exist in the book, including those on arctic sea ice thinning, correction of land-based temperature measurements for the urban heat island effect, and satellite vs. ground-based measurements of earths warming.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "stations that are unambiguously warming are almost invariably doing so due to the urban heat island effect or other siting issue, not any global cause.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends there is no evidence that surface temperature records are being distorted in any significant way by the urban heat island effect.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect is well-studied, and urban and rural regions show the same long term warming trend, and we now have satellite data which also shows the warming trend.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends these temperature reconstructions are adjusted to remove effects such as urban heat island effects.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "so it could be that urbanization is a hidden factor in climate change, and in fact there has been quite a bit of research into the urban heat island effect in case this is a factor.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends another climate skeptic argument bites the dust: urban heat island myth is dead.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "youre missing another key argument - urban heat island accounting for global temperature rise as cities grow and engulf weather stations, thus raising the temperatures recorded in these stations",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "im going to get downvoted and called a climate change denier for this, but I think that the urban heat island effect has played a part in the increase in temperatures",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the result was that the two showed almost identical time series (actually the rural showed a little bit more warming) so there apparently was no lingering urban heat island bias in the adjusted ghcn dataset.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "for decades there has been intermittent attention paid to the claim that the urban heat island creates a warming trend as formerly rural spots are paved over, trapping heat, which then boosts the warming that inevitably gets blamed on greenhouse gases",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i would dispute that the urban heat island effect significantly effects the temperature trend, but rather than go blow by blow through studies i would simply point out that sea surface temperatures, arctic temperatures, and deep ocean temperatures are all immune to the urban heat island effect and all show a clear warming trend.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "notice that your article admits a warming trend appears when you drop in altitude but writes it off as urban heat island effect, a claim that also falls apart when you actually dig into the science.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i dont doubt there is local warming due to the urban heat island effect for example, but biases in measurement and historical adjustment, or changes in local physical systems over the measurement history mean that any ""science"" based upon local, terrestrial temperatures are hopelessly flawed.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i suspect its the urban heat island effect - buildings and asphalt and concrete absorb heat like crazy, and slowly release it when the sun isnt warming it.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the story is slightly more complex but some other comment around here got it pretty close - most often the scientists over correct for the urban heat island effect (which deniers very often like to claim is not addressed in climate science, but in fact all peer-reviewed papers to date show it is over-corrected)",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends how do you know that the urban heat island effect has been properly accounted for in correcting raw temperature measurements?,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "and this already happened, starting in 2010- when the berkeley earth team (composed of a number of notable scientists sympathetic to climate skeptics, like richard muller and judith curry) set out to re-analyze the data used by nasa and noaa and determine, once and for all, if their analysis methods were sound and whether data integrity issues were a factor (urban heat island, poor station locations, data adjustments, etc).",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "let us not forget the root cause here is not solely climate change, but the urban heat island problem.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "then it started to get worse year after year with new high rise buildings blocking the wind, the urban heat island effect, waste heat from the ever-increasing use of air conditioners; global warming is in fact not the main cause.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "but also, if youre measuring a built-up region where *everything* is urban heat island, then you keep the sensors right where they are because they are accurately measuring the true, high, temperatures of that area.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "* uhi (urban heat island) - watts and others have falsely claimed that the planet isnt warming as nasa gistemp, noaa, hadley-cru and others claim, but rather that poor placement of temperature stations ",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect also does not explain why there is a matching increase in sea and atmosphere temperatures.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "truth is, acs contribute to the anthropogenic heat output and especially in big cities this effect can contribute more to the urban heat island than climate change.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "my point is that, while satellite data is good (though not without problems), the surface temperature record does in fact compensate for the urban heat island effect.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "there have been multiple studies that looked into the urban heat island effect that codayus references, and rural stations *have* been compared to urban ones (in short, they dont show less warming).",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the intergovernmental panel on climate change (ipcc) has concluded that the impact of urban heat islands on temperature records is ""real but local,"" and has only a negligible effect on regional or global trends.2 the ipcc also noted that urban heat island effects on local climate appear to include changes in precipitation, clouds, and daily temperature range.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "e.g., if adjustments for the the urban heat island effect arent made, then the warming trend may be over-stated.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends climate change do have a role but its more to do with urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "if you dont think urban heat island effect, water, energy, or politics are related to climate change then i cant help you",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the way we have been measuring temperatures has evolved throughout the years, there are more and more places where temperatures are measured (though this term is incorrect according to the zeroth law of thermodynamics), instrumentation has changed and of course, urban heat island, etc...",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "if youre just asking for where to look to learn more, google ""nasa giss temperature adjustments"" and ""urban heat island effect"" and ""surface station problems"" look at the sites where people question the official story.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect can give temperatures several degrees higher than the true average.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "they first point at changing environments and claim all warming is only due to the ""urban heat island effect"".",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "nasas giss methodology has stood up to repeated, intense scrutiny and continues to be refined as the researchers address complex issues like the urban heat island effect and other potential sources of error in the measurements, but at no point has the fundamental statistical significance of the temperature data come into question, particularly as the research unit has included a comprehensive treatment of data quality issues in each of its subsequent refinements.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends why do nasa not just use remote (outside towns and cities)temperature readings then they do not have to guess at the urban heat island effect?,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "furthermore, land-based thermometers are placed where people live, and people build stuff, often replacing cooling vegetation with manmade structures that cause an artificial warming (urban heat island, uhi) effect right around the thermometer.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends one of the shining examples is his attempt to prove a warming bias in the instrument temperature record due to the urban heat island effect.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "especially since you ""skeptics"" are usually so adamant about the urban heat island effect in the temperature records.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the observed global warming signal is nothing more that the warming phase of these ocean oscillations with some urban heat island effects and plain old data fiddling added.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "surface temperature data sets are prone to numerous errors such as the urban heat island effect, time of day and type of instrument.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends i suspect urban heat island is a very large contributor to the increase in temperature.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the difference here is the ""urban heat island"" effect, which climate modelers have said they have accounted for, but the only way to do that is by fudging the numbers.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the problem is that if you break up the urban heat island effect than you have fixed most of the numbers of spiking temperatures that the climate change alarmists are quoting, so they purposely ignore and cover up info on urban heat island effect ",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "pretty much the highest number attributable to the heat island effect that i can find is a 30% increase in magnitude of warming, over an area about 4 times the size of the producing city, (per [huang, q., and lu, y., ""the effect of urban heat island on climate warming in the yangtze river delta urban agglomeration in china"", int.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "or, just as problematic, stations that were reporting good data that was not showing a lot of warming, where that data was thrown out and urban data from dozens of miles away substituted in the record or sites where hot urban data was ""homogenized"" with cooler rural data, and it was the rural data that was adjusted up, rather than the urban heat island data being adjusted down.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the article states that ""the urban heat island effect is real - which is well-established"" so to argue that it is real and yet somehow has no impact on global surface temperature readings is laughable.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "relative to the urban heat island and other possible human-civilization-related effects on temperature readings -- the amount of actual experimentation that has been done (versus mere speculative estimates and adjustments) is abysmal (its virtually non-existent, the adjustments are just assumed to be valid).",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends watts up with that often cites the urban heat island effect as the reason behind observed surface temperature increases.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "even if they (wrongly) attribute all warming in cities to the urban heat island effect, that wouldnt explain why super remote weather stations in the arctic/antarctic/deserts/jungles/oceans across the world all register the same upward trend",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "actually, all of the major data sets are adjusted to filter out the urban heat island effect, so this hasnt actually affected the measured warming.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "firstly, the earths surface is 70% ocean so even in the unlikely event that urban heat islands have an outsized effect on land temperatures, influence on global land+ocean average will be small.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends havent you ever heard a denier claim that actually temperature readings are misleading because they dont account for the urban heat island effect?,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "according to this article, ""some suggest that urban heat islands are the true culprit for global warming.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "and indeed, most warming has been in the arctic region where there arent any urban heat islands.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "you may not be aware of this, but temperature datasets already account for the urban heat island effect.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends we are seeing dryer and warmer cities due to the urban heat island effect and this is being used to argue the world is warming rapidly due to humans.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "surface temperatures simply dont reflect the impact of co2, they reflect water vapor and the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect is a well known phenomenon and easily explains much of the perceived warming.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the satellite record is the most accurate means of measuring global temperature, unlike surface-based measurements which are regularly influenced by the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends this season is full of people confused between global warming and urban heat island.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urban heat island effect i dont think explains the warming of the ocean.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the fierce debate over michael manns hockey stick graph, discussions about the accuracy of climate measurement stations and the urban heat island effect, the furious finger-pointing after the climategate ""hide the decline"" line leaked, and the annual skeptic ritual of nitpicking the ipcc are all examples of this in action, and im not going to dwell on it at great length because you can find tens of thousands of loud articles on it with one google search.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "there are lots of denier arguments whose effect is saying that climate change isnt happening (""nasa is faking the data"", ""its urban heat island effect"", ""arctic ice cover increased after 2012"", etc.)",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "since most thermometers are ""near where people live"" its clear that the urban heat island effect is influencing our temperature data.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "just goes to show that while urban heat island is a well known phenomenon, its far from the only factor in determining peak air temperature.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "you mean like that it was discovered that some stations were experiencing something called ""urban heat island effect"" which was artificially raising temperatures over what one would measure in a remote station.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the slope of long-term 10-year running average global temperature using thermometers from 1900 to present (the blade of the hockey stick) was maximized with the sloppy gridding code, urban heat island effects, hiding the declines, and even fabricating data (documented in the leaked source code comments revealed with climategate).",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "hand-picked rural temperatures to avoid homogenization/urban heat island issues) and compensating for changes in tsi can result in [extremely low ecs of just 0.44 based on the ""high variability""",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "acrim instead of pmod) and also on the observation that part of the observed global warming might be due to urban heat island effect, and not to co2.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "another example: a weather station is in a location that got developed heavily, introducing a warming bias due to the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "there is general underestimation of the urban heat island effect, and other microclimates such as the lakeshore tend to get oversmoothed in the forecasts.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends these raw measurements are analyzed using an algorithm that considers the varied spacing of temperature stations around the globe and urban heat island effects that could skew the conclusions.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends you realise the urban heat island effect is factored into temperature data?,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the team found that the urban heat island effect is locally large and real, but does not contribute significantly to the average land temperature rise, as the planets urban regions amount to less than 1% of the land area.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "when they apply urban heat island effect adjustments, its been shown to actually increase the areas temperature, rather than reduce it, as one would expect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "further, the temperature data is trash, because more than 80% of long term monitoring stations are too close to cities (urban heat islands) to be representative of global trends",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends " it has been shown time and again that the urban heat island effect does not influence the temperature record, including most recently by the skeptics led best team at berkeley.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect is the express reason stated by noaa for their alteration of the historical temperature record.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends continental climate and the urban heat island effect wouldnt be enough to sway it that much for the summer lows.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "these impact estimates do not take into account that large cities will experience additional warming due to the urban heat island effect, that is, the change of local climate patterns caused by urbanization.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the instrumental temperature record of the past 150 years or so has many problems, the biggest one is probably the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "ground temperature measurements are notoriously flaky and prone to urban heat island effects, poor instrumentation, and tremendous cherry picking.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends theres a lot of pictures that you can easily access of temperature sensor stations in urban environments (which are affected by the urban heat island effect) and even some sitting next to air conditioners.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "let us not forget the root cause here is not solely climate change, but the urban heat island problem.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urbanization and the urban heat island effect does not explain the warming trend weve seen in the us to date.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "again, micro-site bias is important because studies of the urban heat island effect on measured temperature (including most famously best) have ignored this fact when they designated rural sites as pristine.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends novel suggestions like urban heat island effect and lack of tropospheric warming dont pan out.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect already contributes up to 7c (average is 3c, depending on season, size and density of a city) warming compared to the countryside outside cities.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect has been a particular problem that also has not been properly rectified in weather station temperature data or models for future climate variability.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "you know all those skeptic arguments about how the temperature record is biased by the urban heat island effect, badly-sited weather stations, dropped stations, and so on?",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "as lamented in climategate emails by phil jones to james hansen, if the chinese stopped their commendable practice of moving thermometers away from contamination by the urban heat island (uhi) effect and instead taken temperature readings contaminated by airport jet exhaust [as the rest of the world did], the chinese temperature data would have shown more artificial warming.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends new paper: urban heat island effect accounts for 56% of warming in urban areas over past 55 years,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends seeing former skeptics research this subject independently and conclude that the urban heat island effect is not responsible for the observed warming ultimately made me conclude that the arguments against anthropogenic global warming are not very strong.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "for one thing, the urban heat island effect is well known and corrected for in land-based temperature stations; for another, the data from ships at sea and taken by satellite show the warming trend as well.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends why do you think that the adjustments made to temperature data sets to take the urban heat island effect into accout are dreadful?,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the difference in temperature between shade and sun is more than the entire urban heat island effect.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends it is very possible that the increase in temperature that we have seen has been causes by the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends none of that answers the findings of fact - that the nasa homogenization adjustments (like removing the urban heat island effect) is much smaller than the observed rise in temperatures.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the root cause for the high temperature is urban heat island effect and unless we take proper measurements to counter that problem, the city will always be too hot.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "for instance urban heat island effect (which causes inflated temp readings) was more common in the early days, which meant that when it was adjusted for later on, it caused earlier temperatures to drop.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "urban heat island effect, is responsible for most of the modern warming.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends it says that the urban heat island effect has successfully been removed when analysing the temperature data to get the best temperature record (which is very very similar to gistemp).,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends then why do sea surface temperatures also show significant warming despite not being effected by the urban heat island effect?,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the reason temperature records are adjusted is to account for things such as the urban heat island effect.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "using new york and west point, it can be claimed that 100% or more of the nasa giss recorded warming is due to the urban heat island effect",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "cooperative observer (coop) network suggests that the composition of coop stations surrounding ushcn stations is sufficiently rural to limit the aliasing of urban heat island signals onto ushcn version 2 temperature trends during homogenization.""",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "like when they list all of the factors contributing to global warming, this urban heat island effect isnt even listed and that surprises me, so my thought was that maybe people arent thinking of it or there wasnt enough research into that.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urban heat islands exist but are not responsible for these warming trends.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "urban heat island effect is accounted for in the modeling, and rural areas reflect the same amount and trend of warming as urban areas.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "a few place, like the new york city and surrounding urban areas, or the la basin, have warmed a lot since 1800, but a large part of that warming is the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends neither the urban heat island effect or badly placed stations caused a bias in the temperature trends.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "some critics like anthony watts have suggested that the warming is just a statistical artifact due to the ""urban heat island effect"" (cities trap heat, which might skew data taken by temperature stations nearby), but at least one comprehensive study by noaa, which corrected for these and other alleged problems, has shown that the warming isnt artificial, but that its a real physical phenomenon.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "problem is people will look at your chart and conclude the increased temperatures are caused by climate change, when the data doesnt support such a conclusion since you dont account for urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the reason they needed to fake hot spots was to fill in large open areas between the cities with the real hot spots to make the urban heat island effect look like their bs global warming.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect is accounted for, and in most cases introduces a *cooling* bias, not a warming one.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "our measurement tools today are filled with user error such as an over reliance on temperature measurements coming from cities with the urban heat island effect, so why should i believe that they can measure that accurately that far in the past?",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends our planet has warmed a mere 1.7c in the past 140 years with much of that warming due to urban heat island effects exacerbated by the ubiquity of asphalt and concrete.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "so they can adjust temperatures for the urban heat island effect, and use proxies to estimate temperatures going back a hundred thousand years.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the controversy regarding noaa adjustments for the landbased ushcn temperature dataset was squashed with this paper and related article, and has to do with removing bias from urban heat island effect amongst others.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "...... is there something wrong with you... of course somewheres climate can be hotter than an urban heat island in a different climate, this is a meaningless statement",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends cities induce urban heat island effects that raise the temperature more than all the co2 released in the last 100 years have done.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "urban heat island effects are still anthropomorphic climate change, just not related to global warming.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends i am saying that how much of an adjustment is made to actual temperature readings to account for urban heat island effect is spurious.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the problem is they wont stop looking at urban heat island data , which must be excluded from the records and the past history of much warmer climates, all over the historical climate records.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "between homogenization and urban heat islands, this accounts for all of the supposed warming from what i can tell.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "more likely to be a result of the urban heat island effect combined with solar activity & the increase in size of la in the last ten decades, rather than global warming.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the climate data for toronto comes from pearson airport, which is also 30 minutes away from the city and doesnt benefit from the urban heat island effect or the warming effect of the lake.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "most ""climate change"" hot spots are actually hot spots from the urban heat island effec and according to the epa and a load of other sources that can be mitigated with green roofs",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect is at least as large as the cumulative effect of global warming (1-3c).,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i remember there was talk that initial research on global warming was overestimating the effect because the meteorological stations were in growing cities, and the research wasnt taking changes over time in the urban heat island into effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends you shouldnt compare the mean temperature of our cities with the temperatures during the federation drought ( when we had similar conditions of drought and heat waves) because of the urban heat island effect .,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect is accounted for in all major temperature data sets.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "despite concerns raised about its possible contribution to global warming, comparisons between urban and rural areas show that the urban heat island effects have little influence on global mean temperature trends.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "for example, in athens, greece where urban heat islands are well-documented, temperature differences upwards of 6c have been observed.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends so the local temperatures are often horribly contaminated by the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "one of the arguments you will hear against global warming is the ""urban heat island effect"".",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends both make the same fundamental error: they compute the arithmetic mean/average of the temperatures **without doing area weighting** and then strongly imply that the decreasing number of stations over time has falsely caused urban heat island effects to make it appear as if there are strongly increasing temperatures.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "time series of the earths average land temperature are estimated using the berkeley earth methodology applied to the full dataset and the rural subset; the difference of these shows a slight negative slope over the period 1950 to 2010, opposite in sign to that expected if the urban heat island effect was adding anomalous warming to the record.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends """urban heat island effect skews the temperature data of a significant number of weather stations"" multiple studies have found that urban heat island effect is not affecting climate measurements.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends temperature stations tend to be located near population centers where they are subject to the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends global warming alarm is designed to resonate with urban heat island residents.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends a few years ago watts up with that ( anthony watts) was convinced there was data manipulation and the whole global warming thing was the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "an interesting question is: how much of this is due to global warming, and how much is due to an intensifying urban heat island effect as tokyo has grown?",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "this is called the urban heat island effect, and the evidence shows that it is not responsible for the increase in global average temperature.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "these show clear warming, and tony heller denies it by saying its due to the urban heat island effect.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "before this there was pretty much open attack on any and all aspects of climate science, including the miserable failures at blaming urban heat island effect and various other arguments arguing against any warming at all.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends simple examples for temperature records would be things like correcting for known urban heat island effects ,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "although a component of long term temperature rise is caused by ghg, and some of that undoubtedly human, a big component of what humanity experiences as extreme heat is due to the additional urban heat island increasing over time from built area and human energy using activities.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "because its fairly clear that the population of the planet is higher than ever, urban heat island effect is causing measurement issues (artificial warming), and over the last 130 years ago, we have been clawing our way out of the little ice age.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends he fact that urban heat island temperature effects have been shown to skew upward much of the recent land temperature measurements.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the source says it is the berkley earth temperature reconstruction, which corrects for biases such as urban heat island effect.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends denialists conveniently criticize climate science when they dont take urban heat island effect into account.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "but, weve been assured, the urban heat island effect is minimal, amounting to no more than a tenth of a degree or two.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "nasas ""adjustments"" for things like the urban heat island effect are much smaller than the overall measured.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends but do you really believe that scientists would not adjust for factors such as the urban heat island effect?,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "for a long time they claimed the urban heat island effect was nothing, nothing to see, shut up and move along... thats the way antony watts came so well-known, when he kept proving the uhi effect was affecting the results.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends models are trained on the urban heat island data so they can be expected to be predict too high.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends i�d also highly doubt that the urban heat island effect is factored in.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends makes me wonder if the urban heat island effect was rectified in whatever op sourced the data from.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "with temperature data indicating more warming at the earth�s surface than in the earth�s lower troposphere, one of the following must be true: (1) the surface temperature data is more corrupted by heat biases such as expanding urban heat islands and localized land-use changes than the ipcc admits",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends how are we sure that measuring temps in cities isn�t registering urban heat island effect,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "there is no urban heat island influence here (thats the point of using remote stations) so no need to ""adjust"" this data.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends they dont account for urban heat island changes.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "if anything, noaa should have adjusted modern temps down, not historical temps, due to the population explosion in the sun belt and the desert southwest, and the accompanying growth in measurement stations there, the urban heat island effect, and the number of stations that were improperly located on asphalt roofs, next to hvac exhaust, etc.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect is well known, but ignored.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends ground measurements are tremendously impacted by water vapor and the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "in any case, the way data is used prevents much of the urban heat island effect youre referencing.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends some of the record high temps we have seen in the media are from thermometers that are in urban heat islands.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "a lot are located in cities/airports which typically show higher temps because city temps usually suffer from ""urban heat island effect.""",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "wasnt he behind the whole urban heat island effect controversy, which turned out to be much ado about nothing.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i know full well that the urban heat island effect (which i did not realize that actual name for it, thanks for telling me) is currently accounted for.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "to answer your question though, if the urban heat island effect were actually a problem then we�d see more significant warning in heavily urbanized areas wouldn�t we?",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends not the famous urban heat island contamination; that error goes on top of what watts and co found.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "and taking the urban heat island effect into account adjusts the data higher, for what reason exactly?",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "have mentioned most of these: urban heat islands, volcanoes, solar cycles, and cosmic rays, and much of what has been shown and supported by solid articles to be the case.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "there are also issues with urban heat island effects and when people started looking into noaas thermometer locations, they even found some probes in the path of a/c unit exhaust.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "urban heat islands *are* a real thing, but this has been well known for a long time (and was a product of the same science and scientists people decry as ""fake"", not the supposed ""skeptics""), is accounted for when they create temperature reconstructions",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the land map probably picks up mostly the urban heat island effect and its terribly weighted around the world, plus they adjust the data so you dont even see raw data.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "ipcc knows all about the urban heat island effect, and have discussed it intensely and included that discussion in the ipcc reports.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends many factors can skew data like the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends nasa goes to great pains to remove the urban heat island effect in their data.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "he addresses legitimate concerns of ""skeptics,"" for instance the urban heat island effect.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "beyond that, they aren�t even adjusted for the urban heat island effect, which obviously exists.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "things like the urban heat island effect, which you described, are very well known and are taken into account for all measurements.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect is well known, and yet instead of adjusting those temps down, they adjust all the temps from stations not affected by urban heat up.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends consider the zillions of people who thought they were so clever for noticing the urban heat island effect and assumed that researchers didnt bake it into their models.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "nasa has satellites in orbit measuring the temperature of the globe, and its going up yet you sit here and say theyre not accounting for urban heat islands.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the models have been changed in order to take care of the urban heat island effect.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "best claimed that urban heat island was more or less irrelevant because of prisitine site assumptions, except when noaa bothered to go test it in the field that found that micro-site bias was indeed significant.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends i don�t need a phd to figure out urban heat islands are a thing and a huge problem ignored by climate alarmist.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends were still getting hugely skewed data because of urban heat islands for fucks sake.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "actually, the major datasets (gistemp and hadcrut3/4) already compensate to filter out the urban heat island effect.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "to ensure accuracy of the record, scientists use peer-reviewed methods called homogenization, to adjust temperature readings to account for a variety of non-climate related affects such as changes in station location, changes in observation methods, changes in instrumentation such as thermometers, and the growth of urban heat islands that occur through time.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "however, the preliminary analysis includes only a very small subset (2%) of randomly chosen data, and does not include any method for correcting for biases such as the urban heat island effect, the time of observation bias, etc.""",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends during that same period the 3 terrestrial datasets show only 1/2 the warming predicted by 97% of models (warming only when the raw data is adjusted upwards and the effects of urban heat islands ignored).,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends if they use unadjusted data skeptics and deniers will whinge about scientists not accounting for the urban heat island effect and other non-climatic influence,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "we dont go around saying readings in baltimore are false because of urban heat island effects, for example.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends there are many people who claim that the urban heat island effect has not been properly accounted for.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "these include data selection bias (the groups use on 20% or less of the available stations), poor station quality (80% of the us stations are ranked poor by us govt standards), unseparated influence of urban heat islands, and possible bias from the adjustment procedures applied to the data to compensate for station moves and instrument changes.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends in addition they are also have imperfect data (satellite data is only available for period after the 70s and many land based measurements are affected by urban heat island effects).,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends it seems likely that the urban heat island effect is accounted for in measurements:,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "at that point, mann completed the coup and crudely grafted the surface temperature record of the 20th century (shown in red and itself largely the product of urban heat islands) onto the pre-1900 tree ring record.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "having worked with many of the scientists in question, i can say with certainty that there is no grand conspiracy to artificially warm the earth; rather, scientists are doing their best to interpret large datasets with numerous biases such as station moves, instrument changes, time of observation changes, urban heat island biases, and other so-called inhomogenities that have occurred over the last 150 years",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "this is called ""urban heat island"" effect and that is never adequately factored in.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the number of people who ive seen claim that some set of studies doesnt account for the urban heat island effect or some other nonsense argument and are therefore useless is outrageous.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends a number of studies have assessed influence of urban heat island effect on widescale averages and found little to no influence,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "and we have been getting a lot of ""urban heat islands"" in the last 200 years, so many that their effect is certainly pushing the ""measured average global temperate"" to higher degrees",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the one with actual scientists who do actual science and arent simply taking bullshit data and fucking excel with sticky loads of shit covered bad readings from airport runways, poorly maintained sensors and urban heat islands.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "stated in the paper, there has been a massive reduction in surface stations and almost half of the remaining ones are impacted by the urban heat island effect due to proximity to airports.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i suspect you have never heard of the urban heat island effect, but its one reason that the weather station data is unreliable.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the stations were sited to avoid urban heat islands, so that no ""adjustment"" was necessary.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends im skeptical urban heat island is having a big impact on this graph of global temperatures,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the authors point out problems with the urban heat island effect and ""data corrections"" of the measured data.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "thats why the scientifically-proven report, using 1,000s of volunteers and peer-verification, that 89% of urbanized us weather stations are located too closely to heated buildings and hot parking lots, is viciously gang-banged by deliberately mislabeled skeptical science, and ignores violent data-skewing by the often +17-degree urban heat island effect on those weather gauges,",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i mean if you read up on the science properly (if you think the urban heat island effect is skewing the data then go do more research, youll know youve done enough research when you understand why that is absurd), you realise its something people with different world views can work together on to overcome.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "he claimed warming was do to urban heat islands he lied about the science in order to allege a conspiracy, forcing the authors of one paper to take to the nyt to defend their, you know, actual research: ",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "again with the surface data that has been adjusted, contains external influences such as the urban heat island effect and has very poor coverage.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the past values since the beginning of data collection are always adjusted to the low to compensate for the urban heat island effect, even while there wasnt any building when the station was first in place.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends you would not believe the number of people who tell him that measurements are invalid because nobody thought of the urban heat island effect.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends if i hear somebody say how the urban heat island effect messes up measurements one more time ill scream.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends i already explained that they control for urban heat island.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "and thats wherein the problem lies, where you have scientists matching raw-rural data temperatures to fall in line with urban heat islands instead of the reverse.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends tom wigley tells jones that the land warming since 1980 has been twice the ocean warming and that this might be used by sceptics as evidence for urban heat islands.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "now, everybody knows that rural station data is much better, because urban measurements are distorted by the uhi (urban heat island) effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "*the study addressed scientific concerns including urban heat island effect, poor station quality, and the risk of data selection bias.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "if the data werent adjusted (the technical term is homogenised) they would show large jumps are spurious trends associated with things like the urban heat island, moving stations and changing measurement techniques.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends i guess we shouldnt adjust for the urban heat island effect then (you should inform anthony watts),Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends there were some initial (perfectly valid) concerns about the thermometer readings being biased by the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "manipulation of data, improper set-ups, and urban heat island effect, and downright fraud have made them very noisy, questionable sources.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends its unclear what impacts urban heat islands (uhi) and greenhouse gas (ghg) emissions relatively have on climate.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "they do not have a full understanding of long term climactic cycles, the role of sun spot activity, the total impact of the urban heat island effect, etc.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "as you make your way through the sources i gave you, youll see that the urban heat island effects were accounted for.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "just to name a few: urban heat island effect, land use/land cover change effect, station history adjustments, and quality of station locations.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the decline in rural measurement stations from 6000 to 1500 allowing for a steady increase in the effect of the urban heat island effect.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "there are many other reasons why the raw data is adjusted (urban heat island effect, changes in instrumentation, etc).",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the land based record is also subjected to the urban heat island effect, that skews the record hotter.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "urban heat island effect is strong, but its asphalt, not co2.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the 2 satellite datasets say no global warming in last 18 and 26 year, and during that same period the 3 terrestrial datasets show only 1/2 the warming predicted by 97% of models) warming only when the raw data is adjusted upwards and the effects of urban heat islands ignored.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urban heat island effect is well known and documented.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends there are also issues with urban heat island effects,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends something id find way more interesting than trying to link chinas huge burst of industry to global warming would be to look at the urban heat islands that are undoubtedly springing up.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "giss does make an adjustment to deal with potential artifacts associated with urban heat islands, whereby the long-term regional trend derived from rural stations is used instead of the trends from urban centers in the analysis",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends they create urban heat islands and then mistake that for global warming...,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect is one of the factors that is accounted for in the station record adjustments.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "emerging research says urban heat islands likely have a more detrimental collective effect on global climate, which is going to be quite a struggle now that everyone thinks cutting co2 emissions is all we have to do to save the environment.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends then look at the temperature distribution - it is not global - it is localised to urban areas - hence urban heat islands.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect is a myth.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "on urban heat islands, this has been looked at repeatedly, most recently by muller and the best (berkeley earth surface temperature) group who carefully separated out possibly contaminated sites - there is just no evidence that the heat island effect has a significant impact on estimates of global average temperature.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the stuff in your comment about sun phases, volcano activiy, and urban heat islands is all denalist woo that is completely uncorroborated by research and i suggest doing some further research of your own into those areas.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect is real, but it has been analysed and found to be negligible.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "first, the station data are not nasa but noaas, taken from the global historical climatology network (ghcn) with some additional adjustments for such things as urban heat island issues.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "learn more about urban heat island effect and how it is unrelated to carbon emissions, pollution levels involving particulate matters etc.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "watts has this super-weird ""urban heat island"" obsession that he had to publish fraudulent information to support (his co-author asked to be removed from that publication).",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends something as simple as the urban heat island isnt something we just forgot to factor in.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends we know without question that uhis (urban heat islands) are real but are still struggling to build a working climate model for the earth which is why this is still in the theory phase.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "especially most have been contaminated by the urban heat island effect, so we are left with just the rural ones.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "as spencer notes, the noaa figure could be an over-estimate �if increasing urban heat island effects have spuriously influenced trends over the last 50 years, and i have not made any adjustments for that�.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "and then, "" fortunately, the research and technology to diminish the urban heat island effect is available.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "even while the urban heat island effect is accounted for, the rise is the same.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "now if the atmosphere hadnt been filled with carbon, methane and many other greenhouse gases, the urban heat island effect wouldnt have as massive of an impact, however, we have chosen to pump so much stuff into the air that the oceans have literally captured enough co2",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "urban heat islands have been a factor but even if that was the only locale for weather stations (they certainly are not, and with modern climate studies many, many remote and well distributed locations) models can still be gained from such information.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "their analysis, set out in five scientific papers now being subjected to scrutiny by others, had used statistical methods which robert rohde had developed and had paid particular attention to overcoming issues that skeptics had questioned, including the urban heat island effect, poor station quality, data selection and data adjustment.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the only people who seem to be so dead set on the environment being destroyed are people who havent seen any of it because they live in urban heat islands theyve never left, particularly in the southwest us, where they insist on blaming their poor forestry practices and reckless disgusting waste of water on the climate crisis that never was.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect does exist, but it is very small.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "as for the urban heat island effect, which you are referring to, it was so thoroughly debunked as an anti-agw argument that even roy spencer doesnt use it anymore.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the do routinely adjust downward, for example to account for urban heat island effects.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "temperature is measured at surface stations, which are known to be susceptible to the urban heat island effect",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect was so thoroughly debunked even roy spencer admitted it wasnt an issue.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "this is in fact my favorite ""skeptics"" contradiction: they harp on about the urban heat island effect and when they are told that this effect is adjusted for they harp on about how evil those adjustments are.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect is an often overstated denier argument,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "there are adjustments in the opposite direction too (urban heat island adjustment, as one example), but the overall net effect is an amplification of that trend.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect distorts the measurements massively - skews them upwards,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "its all down to cycles of the sun and the urban heat island effect, with quite a bit of scientific fraud thrown in as well.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "there are serious problems with bad data, the most critical being the ""urban heat island"" problem..",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "theres plenty of evidence to see how not only have their models been proven shite in result, but that they deliberately avoid inputs which might minimise effect and even measurements are subject to local albedo/urban heat island effects as they consolidate the stations used in modelling data.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "no question of what the relevant level of effect ghgs may have had, no discussion of the role of urban heat islands, no discussion of cosmic wind, cloud nucleation, how active the sun has been during different periods, whether or not the addition of co2 and other ghgs is going to continue to accelerate, no discussion of the logarithmic nature of adding ghgs.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "all the information is available to you, including the method nasa uses to account for the urban heat island effect.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends could it be that most of the thermometers used by the giss are affected by uncorrected urban heat island effects?,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "correcting for things like the urban heat island effect is basic science, they do that sort of stuff every day.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "how do you respond to claims that your 1990 nature paper was flawed, misleading and even fraudulent � because it did not take proper account of the urban heat island effect on chinese weather stations?",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends many of us believe that the urban heat island effect has been underestimated.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "in almost the same sentence, you say that the study is bs because of the urban heat island effect, while saying that you never said the study ignored or not take into consideration that effect.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the authors falsely claim that the nasa, noaa and hadley cru gast records do not properly take into account factors such as urban heat islands and changes in the technologies used to measure land and ocean temperatures over time.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends if you mean the urban heat island effect is affecting sensors and the data is biasing global data then that is one thing (that is a known variable and corrected for).,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends those measuring stations that are active are located near urban areas and are impact by the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urban heat island effect is ignored.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends a lot of these have been made using stations that were initially in rural areas but are now in urban heat islands - thus distorting the results .,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends or the fact that the urban heat island effect hasnt been given any kind of updated formula and the current one used by the inss is out of date?,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the ghcn, largely comprised of stations near airports, is thoroughly contaminated by uhi (urban heat island effect)",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "these are the ones, the study shows, which have been most corrupted by the urban heat island effect � and other environmental factors.""",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends meteorological data is untampered along with the fact that most weather stations dont suffer from urban heat island effect due to how few people live there,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "these are the same fools who nowadays can be told how the urban heat island works, and will credulously swallow the idea that scientists dont know about it or have not done the work to correct for it.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the measuring stations need to be sited in rural areas (not effected by urban heat island effects).,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends what watts study shows is that temperature data (one number for the entire earth) is skewed by uhi (urban heat islands),Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends how are we sure that measuring temps in cities isn�t registering urban heat island effect?,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "so apart from the whole urban heat island effect being a failed accusation by deniers, deniers themselves proved it was not a factor.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "sure, adjustments to raw data are evil, and urban heat island and extraterrestrials, big conspiracy and blablabla.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i believe that rather than co2 as the driver, i believe it is the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "taking noaa�s data as read, with all of its glorious urban heat island (uhi) bias, what is also revealed is that a sharp cooling trend across the u.s. and canada has prevailed from 2016 through 2022 (to march).",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "they use monitor stations near runways at airports that are routinely hit with jetwash from planes, are placed on concrete or asphalt, which absorb and release heat and cause higher readings, and dont adjust for urban heat island effect yet ignore colder spots as outliers.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends most thermometer measurements have been spuriously warmed by the urban heat island effect,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect is real, of course, but it has been accounted for and corrected.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "on urban heat islands, this has been looked at repeatedly, most recently by muller and the best (berkeley earth surface temperature) group who carefully separated out possibly contaminated sites",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "surface data sets are also impacted by externalities such as variation in time of measurement, variation in type of equipment, infilling for areas that werent measured and the urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urban heat island as been studied to death.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "ipcc studies dont take into account urban heat island effect or solar radiation, there are perfectly valid complaints to make with the models they put forward.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "another problem is that weather stations tend to not be located inside cities, so do not well represent changes in the urban heat island.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "results for ground stations are adjusted to avoid the ""urban heat island"" effect.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "by the way, it is well documented that the anomaly from the norm is approximately the same size as the measurement error of the instruments used, and its also pretty close to the adjustments that the reporting teams use to compensate for various factors such as dust, smog, volcanoes, urban heat island effect, station dropout and movements, etc.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the usual claim, the urban heat island effect, was explicitly accounted for in the ipcc fourth report.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "however, due to the urban heat island effect, most of the data is skewed upward from land based thermometers, like i said.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends this was because urban heat islands had already increased the urban station temps from the start of the record over 100-150 years ago.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i suspect you have never heard of the urban heat island effect, but its one reason that the weather station data is unreliable.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "stations have had urban areas grow up around them, which creates whats known as an urban heat island effect, distorting measurements, distorting measurements",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urban heat island effect had been accounted for in models for decades.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island makes little difference to the numbers.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "if we can show that temperature data controlled for the variable of urban heat islands; that climate scientists are rigorous and rational, and that climate change is undeniably an immediate threat,** then the debate should be over",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "also, im pretty sure urban heat island effect is already accounted for by nasa/noaa.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urban heat island effect has been taken in account.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "there is the ongoing debate over adjustments to the record and whether they are appropriate, and the reliance on surface station data near urban heat islands is yet another debate.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "scientists are not idiots, they make sure their data isnt screwed up by urban heat island and other such effects.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends so very quickly you have to either be able to properly evaluate how scientists account for the urban heat island effect or you need to trust that scientists arent idiots and have thought of this before.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urban heat island effect places significant leeway on temp records.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "as for urban heat island effect, adjusting for this in the data sets is what the science deniers call ""faking the data"".",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends another reason for the 38_c reading in 2019 could be urban heat island.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "surface temperature records are adjusted to account for urban heat islands, and have been for a long time.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "a lot of recent warming trends, which are assumed to be co2 feedback driven, may be in fact solar driven, which maybe via changes in cloud cover due to solar wind influences on cosmic rays, and driven by urban heat islands and other data collection factors.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect distorts the measurements massively - skews them upwards.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "my exposure to information was largely filtered down to denialist points: questioning the ""hockey stick"" graph, spreading noise about the significance of the urban heat island effect, rejecting data about ice sheet size as uselessly incomplete, denying the statistical trend by cherry picking the starting year for the analysis, and so forth",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "there is no global warming, only urban heat islands and some natural global cooling.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urban heat island effect is the primary culprit for global warming.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i will say that i dont believe the calculations used to eliminate the urban heat island effect are correct, since we know that cities can be several degrees hotter than surrounding forests, and many of those cities were either nonexistent at the turn of the century 115 years ago, or were at best very small compared with today, and yet they are only considered by the algorithms to be a fraction of a degree warmer than rural sites.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the best measurements during the last 100 years are weather stations that have remained constant and are unaffected by the urban heat island effect.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "all bullshit, they have statistics to account for the urban heat island effect.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends well actually the models used by the ipcc do not take into account the urban heat island effect.. nor do they take into account sampling bias of proxy record choice.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect is corrected for.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "at first global warming was a hoax and not happening, and now the effects are acknowledged but attributed to urban heat island.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "then they trot out the record and say, ""see, the trend for urban and rural readings is virtually identical, clear evidence that there is no urban heat island effect to worry about.""",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "if those thermometers are not allowed because of the obvious urban heat island effects in most big cities, then agw disappears, largely into the background variations.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "a lot of ""debunking"" on this matter centres around the urban heat island effect, which is only a fraction of the problem.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends i think that you will find that noaa adjusts for urban heat island effects.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "claim the sun did it, then volcanoes, then cfcs, then the urban heat island, then ocean cycles, or whatever you like",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the berkeley earth surface temperature group was established to provide a robust, open measurement of surface temperatures, in a manner that addresses previous criticisms that temperature trends had been �cherry picked� or that �urban heat islands� provided a false picture of how fast temperatures on the earth�s surface were rising.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends """skeptics"" have been claiming this for a long time, with the same long-debunked myths that you bring up here: the urban heat island effect, and adjustments.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect is a well documented phenomenon, after all.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i also love your selective quoting in response to what you consider to be a too selective survey, ill not even go into detail on the numerous large studies that confirm the ipcc hockey stick because im sure youd just quote some debunked bullshit from watts about urban heat islands.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends does this sway deniers and finally convince them to throw out the urban heat island effect as a valid argument.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "peer reviewed studies have proven that the ""urban heat island effect"" is irrelevant.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat islands do not bias the results of ground sensors.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends urban heat island effect accounts for the rest of the supposed rise in temperatures and then some as once remote stations are now surrounded by concrete.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i understand the urban heat island effect but it doesnt affect the peak temperture it just allows heat to be retained for longer, so i dont agree.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "due to the urban heat island effect, that data is skewed anyway.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends this was primarily due to having to adjust the thermometer data to account for the urban heat island effect (cities having grown up around thermometers that used to be in the country) and the switch from tree ring data to satellite.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "early on the urban heat island effect was recognized and so recording stations were were well placed outside of cities, but within easy driving distance.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "i pointed out the problem with modeling in which all the blame for climate change is conveniently based on human changes (co2, deforestation, urban heat islands) instead of the big picture which is natural variability�not just **solar irradiance** (the measure of the suns effect on the upper atmosphere) which only accounts for only 0.1",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect is actually one of the factors that is accounted for in the station record adjustments.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the existing datasets are plagued with unfortunate non-climatic biases from station relocations, changes in instrumentation, time of observation biases, and urban heat island effects.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect is also well-documented, but the article exaggerates the effect (its a couple degrees c, give or take).",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends studies show that the effect of the urban heat island effect is negligible in the overall trend.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the authors point out problems with the urban heat island effect and ""data corrections"" of the measured data.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "those temperature projections don�t include urban heat island effects, so they�re probably understated",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "this hypocrisy is one the denialists strongest: raw data must be bad (urban heat island, siting, blablabla), but as soon as someone goes and makes adjustments to account for those effects, those adjustments must be bad",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect and claim that without such investigation the entire field is untrustworthy, not knowing that the issue has been thoroughly investigated for decades",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the data is normalized to the urban heat island effect.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "because many weather stations that were once rural are now in urban areas, which are 3-5c hotter due to the urban heat island effect",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends he shows that unaltered surface temperatures in locations unaltered by the growing urban heat islands shows no warming.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "you have no good answers because, to be honest, we dont know if we are having an effect or if the (slight) rise in temperatures (in some places) around the world can be attributed to human activities or urban heat islands.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends nasas adjustments for things like the urban heat island effect are much smaller than the overall measured rise,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends nasa also accounts for the urban heat island affect in their gistemp model.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends " as i have read, ground-based sensors suffer from the effects of the ""urban heat island"" effect",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "yes, urban heat island effect is widely understood and is always taken into account.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "as for urban heat island effects, those do no change records either.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "nasa and noaa use surface data only which is not the most accurate or robust data available as it is impacted by a number of externalities such as time of day of measurement, type of measurement equipment, urban heat island effect.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "they take thousands of readings from all over the planet, apply adjustments, in-fill readings from hundreds of miles away, ""tweak"" readings for assumed effects such as urban heat island effects, station moves, equipment changes and time-of-observation changes",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends we know its not the urban heat island effect.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "other possible drivers of climate are possible; such as the oceans releasing more heat in some decades than others, solar weather affecting cloud cover, urban heat island and changing shipping routes contaminating the record.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends theres also the very real urban heat island effect of formerly rural stations becoming hotter due to expanding cities and suburbs.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "they were doing routine data adjustments to account for time of day, measuring station location, urban heat island effect, etc.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends next there is the urban heat island affect which is factored in based on weather stations outside of any city.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends there are many people who falsely claim that the urban heat island effect has not been properly accounted for,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "youre right that its important to consider the urban heat island effect, and i dont see any evidence that they corrected for that in this article.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the ghcn, largely comprised of stations near airports, is thoroughly contaminated by uhi (urban heat island effect)",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the urban heat island effect is exacerbated by upzoning, not reduced.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends point #6 fails to realize that the urban heat island effect is already accounted for in all major datasets.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "another issue is urban heat island effect, which apparently was left unnacounted by the study.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends they have attempted to correct for the urban heat island effect--see it here,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the problems with compiling those records into a global average come from changes in station siting over the years, differences in what time of day the measurements are taken at, urban heat island effects, etc.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends maybe another hint that the urban heat island effect is having an outsized impact on our records,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "that in itself doesnt mean much; you can find studies that claim climate change weve seen over the past few decades is just because of the sun, and that global temperature increase is all a farce and its just caused by urban heat islands.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "to actually predict the weather accurately you need to gather data on all the different factors that affect the weather, wind speeds, solar activity, cloud cover, urban heat island effect, green house gas emissions.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends this rate of warming is sometimes questioned because of the existence of well-known urban heat islands (uhis),Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the reason they can say it�s the warmest year is because they are using the ground weather station data which is heavily influenced by the urban heat island effect, many of which are near pavement.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "but, weve been assured, the urban heat island effect is minimal, amounting to no more than a tenth of a degree or two.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "also, your math is a little off, they estimate 2-4% overall contribution of urban heat islands.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends then the study that they link has not even been peer reviewed yet and says that the urban heat island effect has essentially no effect at all.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "time of observation changes, instrument changes, station moves, urban heat island effects... why shouldnt we be adjusting for these biases?",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "in general, the urban heat island effect is several degrees (3c-8c) but there are multiple rural stations per urban station in most cases.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "in reality, a great many of the stations that he called rural were within a few miles of major towns or industrial areas and would have been subject to some of the worst of the effects of urban heat island effect, because the effect tapers off over time as a location gets more and more urbanized.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "to make them more accurate, such as when the urban heat island effect is involved, or to account for the fact that the time of day at which measurements were taken changed, new equipment was brought in, etc.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends you cannot trust noaas adjustments for urban heat island effects because their adjustments are backwards.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "you would think that they would try to remove all other signals from the data and try to pinpoint the co2, or ghg contribution by removing urban heat island and other localized signals.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "interesting point, but the urban heat island effect is actually extremely localized.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends so the data adjustments put the urban heat island effect back in.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "but its akin to the urban heat island effect, which plays no big role in global temps.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the urban heat island effect is well known and has been endlessly examined.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends all our lethal heatwave projections are subject to uncertainty related to the future behavior of atmospheric aerosols and urban heat island or cooling island effects).,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "when you set up a couple hundred weather stations in the us in the 1950s and observe the metro area growth / urban heat island effect, you can claim whatever bullshit you want.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends tom wigley tells jones that the land warming since 1980 has been twice the ocean warming and that this might be used by sceptics as evidence for urban heat islands,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "for 33 years, we have had precise, objective temperature data that do not require guesswork corrections to compensate for uneven thermometer placement and non-climate surface temperature biases such as expanding urban heat islands and land-use changes.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "is that the original weather data captured from noaa ground stations over the last 50ish years (that forms the basis of most of their claims) was supposedly destroyed and have been replaced with ""adjusted"" data to account for the urban heat island effect.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends they can adjust (falsify) the tempearture data from land by claiming to offset the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends a through study from 40 years ago indicating that urban heat island heating over time are marginal compared to the heating trend seen in non-urban stations,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "wasnt he behind the whole urban heat island effect controversy, which turned out to be much ado about nothing.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "there are numerous ways that the data could have been affected, such as urban heat island, being close to an airport and getting exhaust, doing sea temp measurements too close to the exhaust of the ships engines, etc.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends i have similar questions in how the urban heat island effect is dismissed when looking at results from ground based sensors.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends many factors can skew data like the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends another good link citing warmer bias and urban heat island biases,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends """adjusted"" simply means that things like the urban heat island effect are accounted for.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends theres also major issues with weather station siting due to urban heat island effects.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends a ton of people have told me that scientists just havent accounted for the urban heat island effect!,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "we are taught how to use the tool properly to calculate global and local trends, to debunk the ""urban heat island"" myth, and to check the accuracy of global thermometre records.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "this visualization is based on the ghcn dataset, which tries to subtract out the urban heat island effect, as well as other trends caused by observing practices and station environment.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "what the study found was that, contrary to the denier claims, the urban heat island effect contributes very little to agw.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends watts whole case is that the temp record is skewed by the urban heat island effect.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends the hot temps we see aren�t from carbon and most are explainable as a result of urban heat island effect,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends when the hundredth person comes up to you and claims that climatologists havent accounted for the urban heat island effect (when they actually have) you dont need to reevaluate your evidence.,Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends it�s called the urban heat island effect or thermal massing which gives false readings when taken in an urban context.,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "that is not even getting into all the assumptions behind co2 driven agw, or the validity of the datasets to begin with (urban heat island effect.)",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends i remain unconvinced the urban heat island is unaccounted for in noaa or nasa reports,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "there were dozens of different tweaks and adjustments applied - station moves, time of observation adjustments, urban heat island effect adjustments, instrument change adjustments, and homogenization",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends it is also very odd that nasa data is continually �adjusted� to compensate for factors such as the �urban heat island effect ,Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "also, unfortunately, instrumental records, not having a independent measure to calibrate against, has a lot of issues as well, not least of which is the urban heat island issue.",Refute,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "even fred singer brought up the urban heat islands in the context of biasing surface temperature recording stations, not contributing significantly to the actual global surface measurements... which are also measured by satellite.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends "the authors falsely claim that the nasa, noaa and hadley cru gast records do not properly take into account factors such as urban heat islands and changes in the technologies used to measure land and ocean temperatures over time.",Support,Urban Heat Island effect does not exaggerate Global Warming trends