piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
commented by goodidea (2024-02-14 20:54:49+00:00): @Mateusz Konieczny:

> So if oak would have sign "Oak" (for example in botanical garden) then you would put name=Oak?

No, I wouldn't in general; perhaps if it is „The Oak“ at a place where is is a very special oak. For example, here we have the "Dick Buch" (thick beech), a natural monument offcially listed also in the  "Saarland-Schutzgebietskataster" for natural monuments with this name (https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3592616366). It's really a thick beech … surprisingly, it has this name! Will you also remove it with a bot?

Maybe in this example I would put a node at the location of the sign with tourism=information, information=board, board_type=nature (or plants), see e.g. here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/11535341649 – where the board has further information about birches).

I've probably already made it clear enough that I don't use the name tag arbitrarily or carelessly, and I haven't tagged amenity=toilet with name= Toilette (German) or anything similar. I see the problem as being that Mappers overinterpret the name rules and remove parts of names that have a descriptive character, e.g. in the names of shops or restaurants, but thereby castrate the name given by the owner (here, for example, there is a “Restaurant Saarland” - “Saarland” is the name of the federal state here – should it just be called “Saarland”? Would be very strange). Or “Jenny’s hair salon” becomes “Jenny’s”… So I see the problem more on THIS side of the topic, is what I mean to say.

I haven't found your misleading examples very helpful so far. The fact that you don't respond to what I think are more appropriate comparisons (e.g. with name=kiosk) doesn't seem to me like you're willing to change your perspective even a micron or to have a real dialogue. In short: it doesn't seem very constructive to me, so I don't really enjoy this discussion with you. I'll still try to answer you objectively and I've already written enough to make my point of view clear. (comment part 1 of 4)
commented by goodidea (2024-02-14 20:55:01+00:00): (part 2 of 4)

I try to write a little more, but then I've had enough, I don't have the energy to discuss this any further.

What I would find helpful, for example: if you tried to specify the definition of what is meant by a “name” in the OSM sense with the clearest possible criteria, for example of which a certain minimum number must apply (perhaps similar to the WHO does it with its “International Classification of Diseases – ICD” – which is also constantly being revised?). Then we could discuss it. The core question: when is something a name and when is it not? I would be interested. However, I don't think you will succeed in doing this very well, or much better than the current definition, which in my opinion comes quite close to reality with its references to exceptions etc. And I know I'm on the edge, but not completely outside the current definition. It is what is generally called a gray area.

I would also find it crucial to answer the question I already asked: What is the problem here? What harm does it do if an area that has a sign labeled “playground” gets such a name tag? No, I certainly don't tag for the renderer, quite the opposite - I've probably already tagged 10,000 details that will never be displayed on any renderer. But I also have no problem with the text “Playground” being displayed on a playground area (e.g. on OSM Carto).

I think your problem (or point of view) is that in cases like this you tend to understand the term “playground” as a classification or a “category” that is expressed on the sign – that’s how it is. But I would argue that some terms can be both a classification/category AND a name in the local environment of the object - see the example "Kiosk".
commented by goodidea (2024-02-14 20:55:16+00:00): (part 3 of 4)

By the way, there are also one or more kiosks in my city called “Big Kiosk” – should this also be removed? It's very descriptive - it's really a big kiosk, bigger than regular kiosks. Or there is a doctor's practice with the name "Orthopädie Unfallchirurgie Saarbrücken" (translated: "Orthopedics Trauma Surgery Saarbrücken") - see https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/11617069041 or https://orthopaede.saarland/ - completely descriptive name plus location name - should that be removed too?)


To point out further difficulties when using a bot at playgrounds, it should be mentioned - in my city there are areas tagged with amenity=playground that, according to the sign or label, have these names:

* name= Spielplatz
* name= Spielwiese (just a grassy area, e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1157063552 – and that's very near a playground with name=Spielplatz! – see https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/ 564122695; and probably not a unique name either)
* name=Spielarena (a paved place crossed by a living street; explicitly marked as a playground; here, exceptionally, even with big writing "SPIELARENA" on the floor; see https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/752671300) – here I really thought about whether name= Spielarena is the right thing or inscription=Spielarena. But my decision was: it's more a name expressed by the inscription than only an inscription.

If you're setting up a bot, do you want to remove all names that contain the word "Spiel" or do you want to do it like this? Furthermore:

* You would then also have to remove source:name=sign, otherwise it will result in an OSMOSE error at the point ("source:name without name").
commented by goodidea (2024-02-14 20:55:30+00:00): (part 4 of 4)

So what key other than name could you use? The question has not yet been answered in a meaningful way. Your answer was only:

> We have https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:inscription

I know that we have this tag. The Wiki says: "The key inscription=* is used for the text of inscriptions on buildings, memorials, advertising signs, and other objects." So you mean it is appropriate? I don't. It's not an inscription on the object (here: the area of the playground). I only know exactly ONE case where there is actually an inscription: the case "Spielarena" (see above), but even there I would rather use it as a name (and perhaps additionally as an inscription).

I also thought about alternative tags, for example there is board:title for tourism=information, information=board (but where there is also a headline that is tagged with it, I think that is better than using name here). However, I would also find playground:title=Spielplatz too strange and inappropriate.

English is not my native language, but instead of "name" something like "designation", "denotation" or "entitlement" (German: "Bezeichnung") would perhaps come into question (?). But I see it as too much of a synonym for “name”, or I wouldn’t want to invent a new key that is so close to “name” and cannot be clearly distinguished. In addition, keys like “designation” are more likely to be used for other things. Hence my preference as the most appropriate: use name.

I think I'll take my leave of this note now... I'm sure you'd like to have the last word.
closed by nw520 (2024-03-16 21:14:08+00:00): One month has passed. I'm taking the liberty to close this and related notes; feel free to re-open them if needed.
opened by  (2024-01-31 16:01:14+00:00): onosm.org submitted note from a business:
Name: امیر سرویس 
addr:housenumber=10
addr:street=بن بست میخچی
addr:city=Rasht
Phone number: +981334220
Website: http://amirservice.com/
Social Network: Instagram.com/amirservice
Opening Hours: Sat-TH  9am to 19pm
Wheelchair accessibility: limited
Category: Appliances & Repair
Description: Amirservice TV and speaker repairs
Accepted payment methods: 
delivery= Yes 9am yo 19pm
takeaway=no
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2024-01-31 16:01:21+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/139898091

name=Spielplatz ? Is it an actual name of this place? Or it is name of feature type present here and should be removed? Is it obvious enough to just remotely mass-remove all name=Spielplatz from leisure=playground objects?
closed by nw520 (2024-03-16 21:14:41+00:00): Refer to https://osm.org/note/4094705
opened by Tuiui (2024-01-31 16:01:27+00:00): Unable to answer "What’s the name of this place?" for https://osm.org/node/7223764385 via StreetComplete 56.0:

It is a church
commented by Đuro Jiří (2024-04-06 15:26:10+00:00): No, chiesa è mappata bene.

Attached photo(s):
https://westnordost.de/p/205491.jpg
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2024-01-31 16:02:12+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1184340235

name=Spielplatz ? Is it an actual name of this place? Or it is name of feature type present here and should be removed? Is it obvious enough to just remotely mass-remove all name=Spielplatz from leisure=playground objects?
closed by krja (2025-02-17 20:16:23+00:00): done
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2024-01-31 16:02:14+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/852154897

name=Spielplatz ? Is it an actual name of this place? Or it is name of feature type present here and should be removed? Is it obvious enough to just remotely mass-remove all name=Spielplatz from leisure=playground objects?
commented by Backstein22 (2025-04-28 14:18:00+00:00): This is a playground German word for playground is Spielplatz
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2024-01-31 16:02:15+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/492860492

name=Spielplatz ? Is it an actual name of this place? Or it is name of feature type present here and should be removed? Is it obvious enough to just remotely mass-remove all name=Spielplatz from leisure=playground objects?
closed by opendcc (2025-02-19 07:43:40+00:00): Nametagging removed
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2024-01-31 16:02:18+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1191265107

name=Spielplatz ? Is it an actual name of this place? Or it is name of feature type present here and should be removed? Is it obvious enough to just remotely mass-remove all name=Spielplatz from leisure=playground objects?
closed by user_19737901 (2024-01-31 16:27:08+00:00): Deleted the name
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2024-01-31 16:02:20+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1187339411

name=Spielplatz ? Is it an actual name of this place? Or it is name of feature type present here and should be removed? Is it obvious enough to just remotely mass-remove all name=Spielplatz from leisure=playground objects?
closed by berndw (2024-02-01 15:52:00+00:00): Name entfernt
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2024-01-31 16:02:22+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1222439687

name=Spielplatz ? Is it an actual name of this place? Or it is name of feature type present here and should be removed? Is it obvious enough to just remotely mass-remove all name=Spielplatz from leisure=playground objects?
closed by ma-rt-in (2025-09-28 15:32:11+00:00): done
opened by laser-jet (2024-01-31 16:02:41+00:00): Neubau als Kindergarten, andere Gebäude form

via StreetComplete 56.0

Attached photo(s):
https://westnordost.de/p/194901.jpg
closed by intschutschuna (2024-02-25 11:53:39+00:00): Baustelle eingetragen
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2024-01-31 16:02:57+00:00): name=Picknickplatz
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2618567329

name=Picknickplatz ? Is it actual name of this place? Or it is name of feature type present here and should be removed? Is it obvious enough to just remotely mass-remove all name=Picknickplatz from tourism=picnic_site objects?
closed by mcliquid (2024-02-01 09:41:40+00:00): Resolved with changeset https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/146938224 by noteSolver_plugin/0.5.0
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2024-01-31 16:03:09+00:00): name=Picknickplatz
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7619634674

name=Picknickplatz ? Is it actual name of this place? Or it is name of feature type present here and should be removed? Is it obvious enough to just remotely mass-remove all name=Picknickplatz from tourism=picnic_site objects?
closed by mcliquid (2024-02-01 08:18:19+00:00): Resolved with changeset https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/146935145 by noteSolver_plugin/0.5.0
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2024-01-31 16:03:13+00:00): name=Picknickplatz
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6477391800

name=Picknickplatz ? Is it actual name of this place? Or it is name of feature type present here and should be removed? Is it obvious enough to just remotely mass-remove all name=Picknickplatz from tourism=picnic_site objects?
commented by user_16965345 (2024-02-02 21:02:30+00:00): I removed the name tag and I'm confident the mentioned mass removal should be fine, though I have no experience making changes of this geographical size.
I would just run https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1GPy, delete the name tags and upload it as one big changeset?
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2024-01-31 16:03:18+00:00): name=Picknickplatz
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/755856878

name=Picknickplatz ? Is it actual name of this place? Or it is name of feature type present here and should be removed? Is it obvious enough to just remotely mass-remove all name=Picknickplatz from tourism=picnic_site objects?
closed by RedCommander735 (2025-04-14 22:17:49+00:00): This was just the name of the feature, i just corrected it
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2024-01-31 16:03:19+00:00): name=Picknickplatz
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9685369528

name=Picknickplatz ? Is it actual name of this place? Or it is name of feature type present here and should be removed? Is it obvious enough to just remotely mass-remove all name=Picknickplatz from tourism=picnic_site objects?
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2024-01-31 16:03:24+00:00): name=Picknickplatz
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2444869281

name=Picknickplatz ? Is it actual name of this place? Or it is name of feature type present here and should be removed? Is it obvious enough to just remotely mass-remove all name=Picknickplatz from tourism=picnic_site objects?
closed by czubi (2024-05-26 15:43:14+00:00): erl.
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2024-01-31 16:03:26+00:00): name=Picknickplatz
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10258036090

name=Picknickplatz ? Is it actual name of this place? Or it is name of feature type present here and should be removed? Is it obvious enough to just remotely mass-remove all name=Picknickplatz from tourism=picnic_site objects?
closed by wermak (2024-04-09 15:36:34+00:00): description
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2024-01-31 16:03:28+00:00): name=Picknickplatz
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5982731136

name=Picknickplatz ? Is it actual name of this place? Or it is name of feature type present here and should be removed? Is it obvious enough to just remotely mass-remove all name=Picknickplatz from tourism=picnic_site objects?
closed by uvi (2024-06-22 09:38:23+00:00): beschreibenden Namen entfernt
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2024-01-31 16:03:35+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10669516565

shop=burmese supermarket ? What kind of shop, if any is here? Is it intentionally used instead of https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop=supermarket ? If yes, what is the difference?

Should we document this shop value as distinct, valid and useful?  Or maybe it is so obvious duplicate that I should have replaced it with an automatic edit rather than making a note?

Maybe shop=supermarket cuisine=burmese would work well here?
closed by GeeMaps! (2025-07-01 05:47:12+00:00): Fixed: changeset #: 168336221
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2024-01-31 16:03:48+00:00): name=Mehar enterprises
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9794183388

shop=garment_exporting ? What kind of shop, if any is here? Is it intentionally used instead of https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop=clothes ? If yes, what is the difference?

Should we document this shop value as distinct, valid and useful?  Or maybe it is so obvious duplicate that I should have replaced it with an automatic edit rather than making a note?
opened by laser-jet (2024-01-31 16:03:50+00:00): Abgerissen

via StreetComplete 56.0

Attached photo(s):
https://westnordost.de/p/194902.jpg
closed by wermak (2024-02-03 03:00:49+00:00): Entfernt, https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/282547607/history.
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2024-01-31 16:03:58+00:00): name=PT Trading Enterprises Ltd.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/11315558725

shop=buddhist_supplies ? Would shop=religion religion=buddhist tagging fit well? See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dreligion
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2024-01-31 16:04:05+00:00): name=Mavens Hollow
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6348695420

shop=soapery ? What kind of shop, if any is here? Is it intentionally used instead of https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop=cosmetics ? If yes, what is the difference?

Should we document this shop value as distinct, valid and useful?  Or maybe it is so obvious duplicate that I should have replaced it with an automatic edit rather than making a note?

Is it man_made=works making shop? How it differs from shop=soap?
closed by leftybender (2024-05-15 00:02:12+00:00): I did some research and think this was a home-based business. They would make soap and other skin products and sell them online. I also think it is closed. I deleted the OSM point.
opened by  (2024-01-31 16:04:34+00:00): GENIUS BAKER
closed by Sammyhawkrad (2024-02-01 12:13:11+00:00): The note is placed in the middle of the street and does not provide enough information.
opened by scy83 (2024-01-31 16:04:35+00:00): Parkplatz nur für Gäste des Restaurants.
opened by scy83 (2024-01-31 16:04:35+00:00): Hier befindet sich ein ausgewiesener Parkplatz mit zwei Picknickbänken.
closed by scy83 (2024-09-22 15:42:14+00:00): Inhttps://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/156957697 eingetragen.
opened by  (2024-01-31 16:05:18+00:00): note
closed by CurlingMan13 (2024-01-31 20:05:41+00:00): Spam
opened by Fraxi (2024-01-31 16:06:03+00:00): Строеж

#EveryDoor
opened by  (2024-01-31 16:07:15+00:00): zlikwidowano kino.szkoda ;(

#OsmAnd
commented by k2101 (2024-02-01 14:01:50+00:00): Miejsce historyczne, kultowe :( 
PS za uwagi weźmiemy się może w sobotę
opened by مطب دکتر کوثر آبرومند (2024-01-31 16:10:30+00:00): مطب دکتر کوثر آبرومند
شماره تماس :09966447277
closed by javanehsch (2025-11-10 20:43:26+00:00): yes
opened by  (2024-01-31 16:14:03+00:00): If I go REALLY far north/south, why does the measuring tool on the bottom left say "1 m" and "1 ft"?
closed by maxwellward (2026-07-31 03:45:20+00:00): It depends on how much you zoom in
opened by  (2024-01-31 16:14:18+00:00): The Site
closed by Gemierose Quinsaat (2024-01-31 16:18:00+00:00): The SITE
opened by Lennardderudder (2024-01-31 16:15:15+00:00): Landelijke Routedatabank says there's a bicycle network connection here between 27 and 28, but it's not in osm. Is the Landelijke Routedatabank correct or outdated?
closed by dvdhoven (2024-01-31 18:28:20+00:00): Route 27-28 ingetekend, route bestaat al een paar jaar, maar tot dusver niet ingetekend.
closed by BikePC (2024-02-03 13:12:53+00:00): Vandaag er even naartoe gefietst. Ook in het veld klopt alles en alle bordjes staan goed :)
opened by  (2024-01-31 16:19:08+00:00): onosm.org submitted note from a business:
Name: گالری هشت بهشت
addr:housenumber=108
addr:street=خیابان گوهرشاد بین خیام و حافظ
addr:city=قوچان
addr:postcode=94716
Phone number: +98 901 721 4923
Social Network: https://www.instagram.com/8hashtbehesht/
Opening Hours: 10AM-13PM / 17PM-21PM
Category: Accessories Stores
Accepted payment methods:
closed by EmadBalipour (2024-02-07 15:59:11+00:00): فروش لوازم تزئینی منزل
بامدیریت چمنی
closed by EmadBalipour (2024-02-07 16:00:36+00:00): بهترین و زیباترین وسایل تزئینی منزل
opened by  (2024-01-31 16:20:07+00:00): تصفیه آب سناتور
پخش عمده دستگاه تصفیه آب
opened by  (2024-01-31 16:20:18+00:00): Hier befindet sich ein Norden offener großer Bildstock, ein Bild dazu ist hier https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bildstock_H%C3%B6fle_1.jpg
closed by LaLinea (2025-06-21 16:21:39+00:00): Eigenschaften an Bildstock erweitert:  https://osm.org/way/1240447823
opened by  (2024-01-31 16:20:40+00:00): "Объекта давно нет. Сейчас тут магазин магнит эконом класса."
The place has gone or never existed. A user of Organic Maps application has reported that the POI was visible on the map (see snapshot date below), but was not found on the ground.
OSM snapshot date: 2024-01-05T19:06:54Z
POI name: Евразия
POI types: amenity-cafe
 #organicmaps android
closed by TrickyFoxy (2024-02-01 21:48:37+00:00): 👌
opened by  (2024-01-31 16:23:14+00:00): PT54
opened by  (2024-01-31 16:24:22+00:00): onosm.org submitted note from a business:
Name: عماد سیستم
addr:housenumber=108
addr:street=خیابان گوهرشاد بین خیام و حافظ پلاک 108-عماد سیستم
addr:city=قوچان
addr:postcode=9471636728
Phone number: +989158172267
Social Network: https://www.instagram.com/emadsystem.co
Opening Hours: شنبه تا 5شنبه /10صبح تا17/2-21
Category: Electronics Stores
Description: Computer
Accepted payment methods: Bank card,Cash
delivery=yes
takeaway=yes
closed by EmadBalipour (2024-01-31 16:30:41+00:00): عماد سیستم
بامدیریت عماد علیپور
closed by EmadBalipour (2024-02-07 15:57:57+00:00): خدمات نرم افزار
سخت افزار
فروش سیستم و لبتاب
فروش سیستم اعلام حرق
فروش سیستم دزدگیر و دوربین مدار بسته
opened by Geovelo_Notes (2024-01-31 16:26:59+00:00): 4 arceaux velo (This note has been created from Geovelo : http://amenagements-cyclables.fr/fr/contributions/60447)
commented by Geovelo_Notes (2024-01-31 16:29:11+00:00): This note has been removed on Geovelo
opened by  (2024-01-31 16:27:08+00:00): An dieser Stelle wurde 2023 eine neue nach Norden gerichtete Kapelle in den Maßen ca. 4⅝×3⅞m errichtet, ein Bild dazu ist hier https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ca._4%E2%85%9D%C3%973%E2%85%9Em-Kapelle_in_Bau_bei_Mais%27Rosenberg%27Westach_1.jpg zu finden.
opened by  (2024-01-31 16:31:56+00:00): Martin-Behaim-Str. 4 in 91161 Hilpoltstein
closed by wermak (2024-02-24 13:13:51+00:00): Eingetragen.
opened by 94621 (2024-01-31 16:32:52+00:00): Unable to answer "What’s the name of this place?" for https://osm.org/way/426392286 via StreetComplete 56.0:

Not a church, rather a shrine
closed by mcliquid (2024-02-01 08:14:50+00:00): Resolved with changeset https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/146935082 by noteSolver_plugin/0.5.0
opened by  (2024-01-31 16:34:06+00:00): onosm.org submitted note from a business:
Name: عماد سیستم
addr:housenumber=108
addr:street=خیابان گوهرشاد بین خیام و حافظ پلاک 108-عماد سیستم
addr:city=قوچان
addr:postcode=9471636728
Phone number: +989158172267
Social Network: https://www.instagram.com/emadsystem.co
Opening Hours: همه روزه بغیر از روزهای تعطیل از ساعت 10تا2 و عصر 5 تا 21
Category: Electronics Stores
Description: computer
Accepted payment methods: 
takeaway=yes
opened by Hdidgendskia (2024-01-31 16:34:50+00:00): Spätkauf Sinan zwischen Bar B-Side und Bar Mega ist geschlossen. Stattdessen hängt über dem Laden nun ein Schild für "Blitz Cafe"

via StreetComplete 56.0
closed by thom_bike_bln (2024-03-03 17:23:17+00:00): Habe ich so eingetragen.
opened by Tajtrdlik (2024-01-31 16:34:58+00:00): Forwarding anonymous report from #Mapy.cz user, please verify: "The post office has been removed".
closed by uprkos (2025-10-30 21:55:18+00:00): Usunąłem.
opened by DeFra85 (2024-01-31 16:37:13+00:00): Befindet sich hier ein offizieller Zugang mit Schaukasten, in dem die Zugangsbeschränkungen aushängen?

Oder wurde hier auch massig Baumschnitt als Sperre aufgestapelt?
opened by  (2024-01-31 16:37:43+00:00): Comboy Autos
opened by Gouelvan (2024-01-31 16:39:12+00:00): 9
closed by jbcharron (2025-01-01 09:32:12+00:00): Added
opened by  (2024-01-31 16:39:34+00:00): "you can cross the train tracks here from the south. its an official pedestrian crossing. marking it saves a lot of time walking across the track by auto route and is more safe for pedestrians"
OSM snapshot date: 2023-12-13T18:30:01Z
POI has no name
POI types: railway-rail-service
 #organicmaps android
opened by  (2024-01-31 16:39:48+00:00): onosm.osmiran.org یادداشتی از یک کسب‌وکار ارسال کرد:
نام=خدمات خودرو مهرداد  MRC  group 
خیابان=کنار گذر پیروزی
شهر=Tehran
شماره تماس=09122308178
دسته‌بندی=تعمیر خودرو
توضیحات=خدمات خودرو مهرداد
opened by DeFra85 (2024-01-31 16:40:17+00:00): Befindet sich hier ein offizieller Zugang mit Schaukasten, in dem die Zugangsbeschränkungen aushängen?

Oder ist der Zugang verbarrikadiert?