piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
commented by Jarek 🚲 (2022-03-30 02:34:46+00:00): It's been an Ontario standard to have roads owned and maintained by regions or counties as secondary (here Haldimand County's road 49). That's been the case for several years. Most of the time it's not really noticeable since roads tend to connect, but at natural boundaries like lakeshores you would see this happen.

Personally I don't think it's a great guideline to keep blindly, but that's a much larger conversation if you want to have it. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada/Tagging_guidelines#Roads for the current wiki guidelines.
commented by Mateusz Konieczny (2022-03-30 08:16:53+00:00): Do you think that would be a good idea for me (complete outsider and with extremely limited local knowledge) to start such discussion?

I suspect that answer is "no".

Though I want to register that seems to be an significant inflation of road classification and problematic mapping.

Looking at https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/3111223#map=12/44.3452/-81.1337 - this should not look like this
commented by Jarek 🚲 (2022-03-30 12:43:07+00:00): OK, well, but you're starting the discussion by making notes instead?

In my experience, in Ontario OSM.org Notes generally don't host very active discussion. I've tried, and only ended up using them to direct people's attention to talk-ca or to the wiki talk pages.

Quite timely, there is a draft discussion going on for Canadian roads at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada/Tagging_guidelines/Road_classification . So far it seems aimed more at primary and trunk roads, but that would be a good place to register your thoughts about road classification in Ontario counties. I can also post to talk-ca and osm-ca Slack about this.
commented by andrepoiy (2022-03-30 18:25:32+00:00): In Ontario, lots of times, "Regional" or "County" roads only signify that the County or Region maintains it, and their respective County Road networks aren't necessarily good indicators of how important a road is. 

One example in Peel Region is Mavis Road, where the Regional Part is only like 1 km long. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4423469#map=15/43.6431/-79.7432

Another example, in York Region, Ravenshoe Road is still maintained by the Region even when it becomes a farm access road, seen here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/44.1841/-79.5077

However, most of these cases in cities have been resolved by downgrading, but since this is quite a rural probably nobody noticed this.
commented by Jarek 🚲 (2022-03-30 18:27:59+00:00): Mapping here does not seem all that unusual compared to some other rural areas

for example of "highway=secondary to nowhere" see Kegnæs https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/54.8775/9.9215

for example of "Bruce County should not look like this" see County Wexford south of the N25 at z12 https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/52.2729/-6.7617
commented by Mateusz Konieczny (2022-03-31 08:05:21+00:00): > for example of "highway=secondary to nowhere" see Kegnæs https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/54.8775/9.9215

Maybe part of problem is that it is not really nowhere here specifically...

I mapped some of missing objects here

> for example of "Bruce County should not look like this" see County Wexford south of the N25 at z12 https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/52.2729/-6.7617

Note that highway=secondary is not leading to every single smallest settlement there, for example https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/52.2973/-6.7671 .

And here see https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/148480419#map=15/44.4565/-81.0728 leading to a small group buildings and terminating there (no continued highway=secondary so it is not about importance for transit traffic)
commented by Mateusz Konieczny (2022-03-31 08:14:28+00:00): > OK, well, but you're starting the discussion by making notes instead?

I assumed that it is a local problem, not some systematic issue (in Poland there are some people who try to rigidly follow official classification leading to absurd cases like driveway classified as highway=secondary[1], or inflate road classification leading to their house/village/town)

If this follows generally applied classification and there is somehow consensus that it is OK then it would be trickier to change

[1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/264203873/history

https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droga_wojew%C3%B3dzka_nr_219#/media/Plik:Droga_wojew%C3%B3dzka_nr_219.jpg - both major asphalt road to left and ground driveway in center have the same road class (left asphalt one is more typical, usually of highway=secondary rank). But some of roads of the same classification are sand roads (there were cases of truck drivers in transit across Europe getting stuck on some of them)
closed by QuigleyJones (2022-06-16 20:23:00+00:00): comments didn't load so I just made the change.
Official data does not give this road a classification however it's type is LCB unlike Rainham rd and other secondary roads which are HCB. This suggests is a lower classification than secondary road.
opened by Langlaeufer (2022-03-29 20:55:07+00:00): Ist das wirklich (noch) eine Treppe oder eine Rampe?
opened by AntiCedros (2022-03-29 20:55:13+00:00): Hier ist eine Schikane für Fahrräder (beidseitig versetzt)

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opened by  (2022-03-29 20:55:54+00:00): Transmission Gully is now open for public use.
opened by  (2022-03-29 20:56:17+00:00): onosm.org submitted note from a business:
name: ModernWeb
phone: 0649135183
website: Modernweb.nl
twitter: @moderweb
facebook: 
email: info@modernweb.nl
hours: Maandag-vrijdag 08.00-19.00
category: Web Design
address: Krugerstraat 1f
closed by Geim (2022-03-30 10:40:54+00:00): Bedrijven aan huis zonder bezoekadres worden volgens de regels van OpenStreetMap niet vastgelegd.
opened by Jhony martinez (2022-03-29 20:58:56+00:00): Taller de servicio A3
opened by  (2022-03-29 20:59:59+00:00): onosm.org submitted note from a business:
name: Estellia Aesthetic
phone: +447778136162
website: Www.estelliaaesthetic.com
twitter: 
facebook: https://m.facebook.com/Estellia-Aesthetic-103823455388849
email: Estelliaaesthetic@gmail.com
hours: Monday- Saturday 10.00-20.00
category: Beauty & Spas
address: Estellia aesthetic
closed by Gordo4444 (2022-04-05 09:35:17+00:00): This is a domestic road of 1930's housing.
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:00:07+00:00): Penderbrook Street
closed by CurlingMan13 (2022-03-30 18:12:29+00:00): No source provided, and basing the quality of the other notes, there is not enough confidence that this note has any credit or is remotely correct.

Maybe this "Anonymous" user can create an account and provide a source...
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:00:23+00:00): Edendale Avenue
closed by CurlingMan13 (2022-03-30 18:12:32+00:00): No source provided, and basing the quality of the other notes, there is not enough confidence that this note has any credit or is remotely correct.

Maybe this "Anonymous" user can create an account and provide a source...
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:00:33+00:00): Langley Avenue
closed by CurlingMan13 (2022-03-30 18:12:34+00:00): No source provided, and basing the quality of the other notes, there is not enough confidence that this note has any credit or is remotely correct.

Maybe this "Anonymous" user can create an account and provide a source...
opened by Jhony martinez (2022-03-29 21:01:14+00:00): Taller de servicio A3
opened by trekpowerflysport (2022-03-29 21:02:35+00:00): Établissement équipé d'un DEA

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Attached photo(s):
https://westnordost.de/p/86414.jpg
closed by zorglubu (2022-04-02 08:21:45+00:00): Le défibrillateur est déjà dans OSM.
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:02:39+00:00): Burning Sage Avenue
closed by CurlingMan13 (2022-03-30 03:26:58+00:00): added from TIGER 2020.... Wish a source was provided....
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:03:00+00:00): Blazing Canyon Avenue
closed by CurlingMan13 (2022-03-30 03:27:00+00:00): added from TIGER 2020.... Wish a source was provided....
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:03:17+00:00): Pristine Lake Street
closed by CurlingMan13 (2022-03-30 03:27:03+00:00): added from TIGER 2020.... Wish a source was provided....
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:03:55+00:00): Western Sun Drive
closed by CurlingMan13 (2022-03-30 03:25:02+00:00): added from TIGER 2020.... Wish a source was provided....
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:04:40+00:00): onosm.org submitted note from a business:
name: املاک امیدفردا
phone: 02332319850
website: tahoora02@gmail.com
twitter: 
facebook: 
email: 
hours: 
category: Absinthe Bars
address:
closed by Sosha1996 (2023-08-05 15:07:26+00:00): this note closed by script for due inactivity. #onosm
opened by AntiCedros (2022-03-29 21:05:06+00:00): Unable to answer "What’s the name of this street?" for https://osm.org/way/24145117 via StreetComplete 42.0:

Hier steht kein Schild mit einem Straßennamen
closed by mappy123 (2023-01-29 07:24:35+00:00): stimmt, daher Hinweis zu
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:05:13+00:00): https://www.mclh.co.uk/our-projects/bangholm-outdoor-centre-edinburgh/
commented by drnoble (2022-04-02 16:12:30+00:00): have added estimate of new building
closed by GinaroZ (2024-02-12 19:08:53+00:00): updated
opened by Túllio (2022-03-29 21:05:22+00:00): Túnel

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closed by BladeTC (2025-05-13 17:31:46+00:00): Feito
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:06:23+00:00): Brayden Court
closed by gpserror (2022-03-30 01:13:47+00:00): added
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:07:48+00:00): Moon Ranch Avenue
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opened by  (2022-03-29 21:07:58+00:00): Salt Rock Street
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opened by  (2022-03-29 21:08:11+00:00): Adobe Jack Street
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opened by  (2022-03-29 21:08:28+00:00): Broken Wagon Avenue
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opened by  (2022-03-29 21:08:58+00:00): Sedona Springs Street
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opened by  (2022-03-29 21:09:15+00:00): Secret Mountain Avenue
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opened by  (2022-03-29 21:09:35+00:00): Rock Crossing Avenue
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opened by  (2022-03-29 21:09:54+00:00): Sergio Barraza Avenue
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opened by Geo-Tobi (2022-03-29 21:10:06+00:00): Wirklich Access=Destination oder eher das gängigere motor_vehicle=Destination?
closed by wermak (2023-01-15 02:56:15+00:00): Wurde korrigiert, https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/40554992.
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:10:11+00:00): Stephen Clear Avenue
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opened by AntiCedros (2022-03-29 21:10:25+00:00): ab hier nach Norden gepflastert

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opened by  (2022-03-29 21:10:28+00:00): Carsin Wayne Avenue
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opened by  (2022-03-29 21:10:49+00:00): Jaysin Douglas Street
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opened by  (2022-03-29 21:11:31+00:00): Fire Valley Avenue
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opened by  (2022-03-29 21:11:43+00:00): Scarlett View Avenue
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opened by  (2022-03-29 21:12:05+00:00): There may still be a nursery school here
closed by GinaroZ (2022-05-17 10:29:35+00:00): added
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:12:08+00:00): Red Sandstone Avenue
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opened by  (2022-03-29 21:12:24+00:00): Manzanita Trail Street
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opened by  (2022-03-29 21:12:51+00:00): Red Cedar Street
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opened by  (2022-03-29 21:13:08+00:00): Sedona Ranch Avenue
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opened by  (2022-03-29 21:13:36+00:00): Thorntree Avenue
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opened by ilhansuzan (2022-03-29 21:13:49+00:00): IEU Güzelbahçe Kampüsü
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:13:52+00:00): Hill Cliff Court
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opened by  (2022-03-29 21:14:07+00:00): Ridgeland Street
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opened by Langlaeufer (2022-03-29 21:14:22+00:00): Ist das auf der südöstlichen Seite wirklich als Radweg beschildert?
commented by Langlaeufer (2022-09-22 08:43:25+00:00): Ist dieser Weg für Radfahrer freigegeben oder gar ein gemeinsamer Geh- und Radweg?
commented by salix01 (2022-09-22 12:02:09+00:00): Fußweg, in Fahrtrichtung Radfahrer frei; die Gegenrichtung hat einen Fahrradschutzstreifen auf der Fahrbahn
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:14:26+00:00): Pivot Avenue
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opened by  (2022-03-29 21:14:38+00:00): Mountain Cedar Court
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opened by  (2022-03-29 21:14:54+00:00): Vermillion Ridge Street
closed by CurlingMan13 (2022-03-31 04:51:41+00:00): The data source that Anonymous is using is not compatible or permitted. So please don't use it to create notes / copy to OSM. Thanks.

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opened by  (2022-03-29 21:15:29+00:00): Halo Ridge Avenue
closed by CurlingMan13 (2022-03-30 23:02:06+00:00): The data source that Anonymous is using is not compatible or permitted. So please don't use it to create notes / copy to OSM. Thanks.

TIGER should be used instead.  The road name can not be confirmed.
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:15:49+00:00): Old Pine Street
closed by CurlingMan13 (2022-03-30 23:02:08+00:00): The data source that Anonymous is using is not compatible or permitted. So please don't use it to create notes / copy to OSM. Thanks.

TIGER should be used instead.  The road name can not be confirmed.
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:16:02+00:00): Edel Hest Avenue
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TIGER should be used instead.  The road name can not be confirmed.
opened by george1201 (2022-03-29 21:16:12+00:00): Hier wurde ein kleines Gebäude (Betriebsgebäude der Stadtwerke?) errichtet. Den Weg gibt es deswegen nicht mehr. Die Eigenschaften der anderen Wege an dieser Stelle muss man vor Ort prüfen.
closed by george1201 (2022-03-30 21:47:36+00:00): Erledigt.
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:16:17+00:00): Crystal Grotto Avenue
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TIGER should be used instead.  The road name can not be confirmed.
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:16:34+00:00): Saltrock Grove Street
closed by CurlingMan13 (2022-03-30 23:02:12+00:00): The data source that Anonymous is using is not compatible or permitted. So please don't use it to create notes / copy to OSM. Thanks.

TIGER should be used instead.  The road name can not be confirmed.
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:16:50+00:00): Tall Redstone Street
closed by CurlingMan13 (2022-03-30 23:02:15+00:00): The data source that Anonymous is using is not compatible or permitted. So please don't use it to create notes / copy to OSM. Thanks.

TIGER should be used instead.  The road name can not be confirmed.
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:17:04+00:00): Orchid Point Street
closed by CurlingMan13 (2022-03-30 23:02:25+00:00): The data source that Anonymous is using is not compatible or permitted. So please don't use it to create notes / copy to OSM. Thanks.

TIGER should be used instead.  The road name can not be confirmed.
opened by  (2022-03-29 21:17:31+00:00): Cliff Castle Avenue