piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
commented by freebeer (2019-09-17 15:36:33+00:00): i'm a bit slow here, but i can't see anything, attached or detached, at least not here in this general area.  unless i'm looking for the wrong things.  or it has been fixed without affecting the remaining data.

looks like i'm guessing amazon has been busy in the area.
commented by freebeer (2019-09-17 16:12:10+00:00): oh wait, i think i see a couple on the other side of this intersection.  time to analyse...
commented by freebeer (2019-09-17 17:31:14+00:00): commented in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/74160143 with the usual bryan housel baiting; my analysis with p2 was there were several junctions not connected to the original way (trivial to fix), but the turn restrictions of the two ways were different, and as this is my first introduction to such things other than seeing the icon, lacking even a basic understanding of the principles, and my p2 rather pressed for display space, i figured i'd abort my work-in-progress detaching the newer way.
commented by gpserror (2019-09-18 17:48:56+00:00): Ooops, sorry, yes I think I put the marker in the wrong place somehow.  Thanks for looking at this and finding the culprit.  I'm not familiar with the politics here and hope to stay out of it, but if that's what it was, it is what it is.
For the record, the intersection at (40.09001,-76.28114) has/had two copies of Oregon Pike on top of each other, giving that warning of a road crossing not connected but appears connected.  I don't know if any more of the road is overlapping.

I've been trying to fix broken turn restrictions across the US, but when I come across these things that I can't easily fix with iD, sorry, red X gets inserted :)  (Better X'ed than swept under the rug...)
commented by freebeer (2019-09-19 06:03:25+00:00): bugs are bugs.  the entire road to the southwest was duplicated and joined (p2 shows junction nodes distinctly with a ring).  the exceptions are where new drives were added in maybe three places.

the two ends of the way have the differing turn restrictions that caused me to abandon ship.  if you understand the turn restrictions, i could return to my effort.

from some analysis i just did in colorado, it appears p2 presents the lower-number older of two overlapping ways as being on top (tagged shed atop untagged outline).

on the other hand, iD seems to put the newer of the two ways on top and active, so the added drives were solely connected to the newer addition.  i'm assuming the others were added before the split.

do you know josm (i don't) or do you know if it's possible in iD to raise a non-active way to be the active one?  if so and if you understand turn restriction relations, i'd ask if you could study what amazon wanted to add, and to note what's on the older version.

that can probably be determined from the osm page for both ways.  they had just edited two hours before i started to unglue things, so i'd prefer to figure out their hours - as i write this and the us sleeps, i know there is happening the several dozen seo spams and onosm abuse from eastern europe into notes flood, that i can soon swat.

i should study their hours behind the changeset commentaries...

more when i decide what to do.  probably delete the split way and point out where it differed.  must think first...

thanks
commented by gpserror (2019-09-19 22:32:59+00:00): Unfortunately I don't know JOSM either, but heard that it had more lower level disconnect/reconnect capabilities than iD.  On the other hand I think I understand the turn restriction relations enough to clean up most KeepRight errors, but still at the mercy of what iD can't do, and more frequent than not it's the overlapping ways that kills me.  I guess in iD I'd have to delete all the relations before I can work on the overlaps, just that it'd be a pain to put the relations back in. 

And another facepalm: Take a look at (40.07578,-76.29747), I think it may also deserve its own red X, someone drew ways on top of existing ways and they don't even line up...
commented by freebeer (2019-09-22 19:33:54+00:00): ah, the way you wrote it it sounded like you needed to get to another machine, not dive into the deep end.

i guess i'll get around to returning to my aborted work-in-progress, consisting of detaching and deleting the shorter way, reconnecting its exclusive junctions, losing the turn restriction, to see if the bug repeats itself or if it's another random iD bug not reproducible.  

have you encountered many more such overlaps?  wondering if it's as frequent as the multiple overlapping nodes that pop up regularly and are known for months.
commented by gpserror (2019-09-22 19:56:44+00:00): Yeah I suspect at some day I need to look at something that has a bit more functionality than iD I hope.  Have lots of ideas of what I'd like to do, but not sure how to do it in iD.

Honestly I never noticed overlaps until I edited a turn restriction and it still didn't work properly, and I got some osmose errors (in fact, I think overlapping ways is part of osmose checks?).  That got me to figure out this as a problem I should fix if I can ... but found out that frequently I can't with iD unless I deleted everything and started over.

I think this may be the third encounter I've had with overlaps.  The first one I stopped touching because I kept getting osmose errors on, week after week, and couldn't get the errors to go away (grr!).  The second one I was able to fix in iD and everyone's happy again, and this third one we're still looking at...
commented by freebeer (2019-09-23 05:10:51+00:00): do you remember where the first one was?

the shorter overlap stretch is gone, so the amazon turn restriction must be broken.

ugly, the sort of inconsistencies this caused.  there were a handful of amazon additions attached only to the way i deleted; similarly there were around the same number of additions only attached to the original road way and that did not get attached to the new way.

i was  aware of the former, but not the latter.  maybe the joined added way is more random than i thought.

anyway, everything is attached now except one of the two simultaneously-edited ways you pointed out, due to the version conflict (p2 would abort and leave the earlier edit intact, while it looks like iD was able to allow the later amazon save to break the earlier one).

anyway, i'll turn the turn restriction over to you as there are too many basics i need to learn.  i wonder if iD will break things like this again...
commented by gpserror (2019-09-23 07:03:12+00:00): Thanks for fixing the overlap.  I need to deep dive!

The first overlap I ever encountered when working on OSM was in California near West Hollywood at (34.07352,-118.44538).  I think there are still some osmose errors there but I stopped touching that spot after requesting help there too, so there have been lots of cooks there.  I don't recall the one that I was able to fix; and oh, I recall another overlap the original mapper fixed as it was flagged for people to help review.

I added the "based on imagery" turn restrictions - they're actually not that hard with iD, the intersection "voodoo doll" when you click on an intersection point lets you create turn restrictions very easily by clicking on intersection entrance and then turning each turn on or off (red = no, green=acceptable, blue=only) depending on what you need.  (I kind of wish the broken turn restrictions were still there, sometimes the broken one are very helpful on inferring things that can't be told from the imagery!)
commented by freebeer (2019-09-23 10:02:05+00:00): if you want to know the potlatch2 keystrokes i used, assuming you hold nothing against flash, they would be
`/' on a selected junction node to cycle the included ways
`j' on a node to dumbly join it to all ways there
`-' while working on a way, to detach the selected node from it
plus the usual delete functions.
`,' and `.' can step nodes along a way to detect out-of-orderness or unwanted loopbacks, that seem frightfully frequent.

dunno if iD has those minimal functions, but i'd hope so.  i found the interface too user-friendly with performance-killing animations, as my display at the moment seems down to two flash frames per second (unpleasant but gives me philosophical time to think or study the imagery) but firefox, hence iD, requires well over a second per full-frame.  that is, if iD would even start for me, which for some time it hasn't.  no matter, even p1 suffices to keep me busy with janitorial duty.

relation handling is kinda clunky in p2, but i've found i'm able to do repairs of certain types the osm inspector points out.  some syntax errors i find easier in potlatch1.  actually i meant to see how p1 presents the turn restrictions.

i'll see if i can find your other overlaps.  actually i shoulda checked to see how osmi presented this.

i suspect a look at the turn restriction and the histories could help me understand better.  or not, spent nine hours babysitting a revert of mass deletions in the sächs.schweiz overnight.  whatever.  me no need sleep.

however, as a 100% pedestrian, i've never felt the urge to learn details of road mapping, categories, grades and all that, and the nuances of the osm rules surrounding them.  so forgive my naïveté.
commented by gpserror (2019-09-23 13:19:12+00:00): Thank you again for fixing this.  I don't see a problem to get someone who has more expertise in a specific area ... don't cause more unneeded work :)


I still need to figure out history too, I only have a very basic understanding of how history works based on knowing a specific point/way/area, but when something is deleted I throw up my hands :(


I suspect this specific issue can be closed now if you feel that it's cleaned up enough.  Right now I think it looks okay, but would be best if the checkers (osmose, KeepRight, etc) run this spot again - another aspect I'm still trying to figure out.
commented by freebeer (2019-10-03 00:18:18+00:00): by the way, i checked the hollywood area with osmi to see if it would flag anything, but either it doesn't or the area got repaired.  in any case, at the rate amazon is working and with buggy tools (all tools have bugs) there will probably be another case of this soon enough.

for deleted ways when unknown, potlatch1 is my goto, but there are others - the swiss simon04 i believe has something i've not yet used.  for vandalism, the changeset will point things out and achavi will visualise it as in a recent example i still have open, https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=74977623

good luck!
commented by gpserror (2019-10-05 17:04:07+00:00): By the way, it looks like KeepRight will flag overlaps.  I just found one with KeepRight at way 626949951 at (40.10894,-105.18133).  Unfortunately as far as I can tell, KeepRight is run monthly if not with an even longer cadence.  Need to see if other tools picks up on this overlap or not.

Should we close this and perhaps continue the discussion somewhere else if needed?
closed by gpserror (2019-10-07 23:54:26+00:00): osmose appears clean on this road as far as I can tell now.  Will close, anyone who wants to discuss overlaps, please discuss in https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1950031 where we haven't fixed yet.
opened by M-Müller (2019-09-15 05:48:52+00:00): Unable to answer "What is the house number of this building?" for https://osm.org/way/282953529 via StreetComplete 13.0:

Anbau Haus-38
closed by Schramme (2019-11-13 08:48:21+00:00): Geändert.
opened by Kmiki87 (2019-09-15 05:50:11+00:00): The slightly chilled bar is at the other marked location, not here.
closed by SL_Mapper (2020-02-03 15:25:19+00:00): Updated
opened by  (2019-09-15 05:51:55+00:00): création d'une piste cyclable Chatellerault ➡️ Dangé Saint-Romain (This note has been created from Geovelo : http://amenagements-cyclables.fr/fr/contributions/10488)
opened by Giulia Pesaresi (2019-09-15 06:00:18+00:00): Non è visualizzata la via 

"Piazzale della Fornace" in Pianello Vallesina, Monteroberto
closed by Luca-gto (2024-10-19 19:44:19+00:00): fixed
opened by  (2019-09-15 06:15:46+00:00): onosm.org submitted note from a business:
name: موبایل یوسفی
phone: 09122016089
website: 
twitter: undefined
hours: 
category: ,Mobile Phone Shops
address: tehran
closed by Sosha1996 (2023-08-07 20:20:13+00:00): this note closed by script for due inactivity. #onosm
opened by RemisC (2019-09-15 06:22:58+00:00): "Church of Sain. Trinity"
POI has no name
POI types: building
OSM data version: 2019-08-30T18:41:13Z
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closed by Tomas Straupis (2019-09-15 09:48:57+00:00): Pažymėta
opened by Svetlana Nikonova (2019-09-15 06:27:06+00:00): Магазин ПРОДУКТЫ
closed by Svetlana Nikonova (2019-09-15 06:41:32+00:00): Широкий ассортимент, вежливый русский персонал, свежая выпечка, пироги, пирожные Смольнинского ХЗ, торты на заказ, готовые обеды и салаты, Лучший капсульный Кофе с собой (Lavazzo)
opened by Svetlana Nikonova (2019-09-15 06:28:36+00:00): Участковый полицейский - часы приема вторник, четверг 16-18ч.
opened by Percherie (2019-09-15 06:28:45+00:00): semble manquer un chemin d'accès
opened by Svetlana Nikonova (2019-09-15 06:29:27+00:00): Остеопатическая клиника Доктора Устинова
opened by  (2019-09-15 06:30:23+00:00): Business Name:
Skip Hire Plymouth
Owner Name:
Aimee Dickson
Business Address:
Sussex St
Plymouth, Devon
PL1 2HR
Business Phone:
+441752987421
Business Email:
whol1960@gmail.com
Website:
https://remskiphire.com/skip-hire-plymouth
Keywords:
skip hire Plymouth, Plymouth skip hire, skip hire
Description:
Skip Hire Plymouth has been an established family run business for many years, servicing skip hire to the Plymouth area, working hard to maintain our excellent reputation of being reliable and efficient. We offer competitive prices, quality and our outstanding customer service. We have a wide range of skip sizes to suit your needs that cater for a variety of waste types. These are available next working day. Worried if it will fit on your drive! Not sure what size! Why not call us and we can walk you through the process and give you a no obligation quote.
Number of Employee:
10-25
Operating Hours:
Monday- Friday : 8:00 - 17:00, Saturday : 8:00 - 12:00
closed by freebeer (2019-09-17 11:08:32+00:00): ain't here
opened by  (2019-09-15 06:31:20+00:00): iran lng
opened by  (2019-09-15 06:32:02+00:00): punkt
closed by freebeer (2019-10-08 14:16:51+00:00): no info
opened by Елена Сиднева (2019-09-15 06:34:10+00:00): "Остров чистоты заменили на зоомагазин"
POI name: Остров чистоты
POI types: shop-chemist
OSM data version: 2019-08-30T18:41:13Z
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opened by skorbut (2019-09-15 06:34:43+00:00): Hier fehlt ein Wohnhaus.
closed by Piagno (2019-11-30 12:14:01+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/77756592
opened by MaestroGlanz (2019-09-15 06:35:19+00:00): Unable to answer "How many levels does this building have?" for https://osm.org/way/48753376 via StreetComplete 12.2:

Building:levels = Min level 4, max level 4
Unterfahrhöhe ca. 15m
closed by Herbert167 (2022-01-07 22:17:36+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/115894048
opened by Svetlana Nikonova (2019-09-15 06:35:28+00:00): В этом месте нет участкового уполномоченного. Адрес его расположения ул. Провиантская д2 во дворе дома напротив парикмахерской за магазином Продукты
opened by skorbut (2019-09-15 06:36:01+00:00): Don't use double housenumbers.

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Attached photo(s):
https://westnordost.de/p/5815.jpg
closed by Piagno (2019-11-30 12:36:22+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/77756986
opened by Svetlana Nikonova (2019-09-15 06:36:36+00:00): кафе закрылось год назад
opened by dzenbo (2019-09-15 06:37:35+00:00): "There are set of benches on the coast"
POI has no name
POI types: amenity-bench
OSM data version: 2019-07-27T07:02:33Z
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closed by Володимир Новіцький (2019-09-17 14:42:32+00:00): Якщо Ваша ласка, пишіть українською.
Дякую!
opened by skquinn (2019-09-15 06:37:53+00:00): What is a "shop=Rest" supposed to be?
closed by skquinn (2022-01-06 00:19:16+00:00): Closing as no longer relevant, as the object appears to have been deleted.
opened by MaestroGlanz (2019-09-15 06:38:29+00:00): Die neue Karosseriebrücke scheint noch zu fehlen.

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closed by Herbert167 (2021-12-26 12:14:58+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/115384208
opened by skquinn (2019-09-15 06:40:22+00:00): TIGER 2018 Roads shows this continues as Will Clayton Parkway. Has the name on the ground actually been surveyed?
closed by RoadGeek_MD99 (2023-08-22 01:27:47+00:00): Used Mapillary and Bing to verify this is Will Clayton Parkway to the east and fixed tags.
opened by nadol (2019-09-15 06:41:19+00:00): Przystanek Warszawa 01 znajduje się przed bazarkiem jadąc w kierunku Gierdziejewskiego. W tej chwili oba przystanki są vis-a-vis a to nie prawda.
closed by SzymonH (2019-11-21 18:41:28+00:00): Przeniesiono lokalizacje i poprawiono otagowanie okolicznych obiektów
opened by skorbut (2019-09-15 06:41:54+00:00): Hier fehlen zwei Besucherparkplätze für Bügelhof 1-50 für Rollstuhlfahrer.

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Attached photo(s):
https://westnordost.de/p/5816.jpg
https://westnordost.de/p/5817.jpg
closed by Piagno (2019-11-30 12:36:27+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/77756986
opened by Svetlana Nikonova (2019-09-15 06:43:56+00:00): Бывшее бомбоубежище. Ныне - сквер В.Цоя
closed by mini-me (2019-11-27 22:22:53+00:00): Официально, сквером считается уже отмеченный зелёный пятачок возле бомбоубежища http://new.rgis.spb.ru/?location=11278
opened by Svetlana Nikonova (2019-09-15 06:45:02+00:00): Ассорти закрыт, на его месте узбекская столовая
opened by Svetlana Nikonova (2019-09-15 06:45:45+00:00): Теперь здесь магазин одежды для беременных и молодых мам
opened by Svetlana Nikonova (2019-09-15 06:46:21+00:00): Фотопечать, ксерокс, копицентр
opened by Svetlana Nikonova (2019-09-15 06:47:01+00:00): Цех85
opened by Svetlana Nikonova (2019-09-15 06:47:39+00:00): Школа с углубленным изучением химии и биологии
opened by MaestroGlanz (2019-09-15 06:49:49+00:00): Feldweg grade 3

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opened by MaestroGlanz (2019-09-15 06:51:02+00:00): Pfad Breite 1m. Schlecht befahrbar

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opened by BURAK ALTINIŞIK KİŞİSEL GELİŞİM KURSU (2019-09-15 06:51:50+00:00): Ümit mah 2547.cad no:16 Ümitköy Çankaya / ankara 
Burası yani açılan burak altınışık kişisel gelişim Kursu olarak haritaya eklenecek
closed by zluuzki (2023-12-08 05:49:59+00:00): added
opened by MaestroGlanz (2019-09-15 06:52:45+00:00): Kaum als weg zu bezeichnen

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opened by MaestroGlanz (2019-09-15 06:54:20+00:00): Unable to answer "What surface does this piece of road have?" for https://osm.org/way/145552948 via StreetComplete 12.2:

Weg existiert nicht.
opened by  (2019-09-15 06:54:33+00:00): onosm.org submitted note from a business:
name: موسسه زبان آیلتس لندمارک
phone: +982144011602
website: Http://ieltslandmark.com
twitter: undefined
hours: Saturday-thursday 9am-8pm
category: Language Schools,Persian/Iranian
address:
opened by  (2019-09-15 07:00:38+00:00): this road must connect to something. maybe manukau road?
closed by ralley (2019-09-19 20:32:38+00:00): Fixed
opened by  (2019-09-15 07:01:20+00:00): landuse=religion
closed by ralley (2019-09-19 20:28:03+00:00): Done
opened by  (2019-09-15 07:02:20+00:00): both buildings demolished
closed by ralley (2019-09-19 20:01:01+00:00): Area is tagged as construction and there are no buildings tagged
opened by  (2019-09-15 07:04:59+00:00): Hier scheint etwas nicht zu stimmen: Eine Mauer geht durch das Gebäude. Wahrscheinlich müsste sie mit der Mauer 10 m westlich verbunden sein.
closed by maction (2019-11-16 17:17:51+00:00): Absolut richtig; die Mauer war unsinnig. Fehler korrigiert durch Autor.
opened by  (2019-09-15 07:05:35+00:00): Privatparkplätze
closed by tux67 (2019-09-15 12:54:09+00:00): Die access tags der Parkplätze wurden auf private gesetzt
opened by  (2019-09-15 07:06:37+00:00): Home
closed by freebeer (2019-10-02 00:13:33+00:00): personal bookmark
opened by vaskozl (2019-09-15 07:11:52+00:00): "The name of the building is "Shepherd House"."
POI has no name
POI types: building
OSM data version: 2019-08-15T15:38:52Z
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opened by vaskozl (2019-09-15 07:11:52+00:00): "The name of the building is "Shepherd House". No number so far as I know."
POI has no name
POI types: building
OSM data version: 2019-08-15T15:38:52Z
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closed by harg (2020-02-14 21:28:50+00:00): Is mapped
opened by Xerono (2019-09-15 07:14:13+00:00): Unable to answer "Is it restricted who may park here?" for https://osm.org/way/470930531 via StreetComplete 13.0:

P+R-Schild
closed by hrensko (2019-11-29 20:42:56+00:00): https://de.mapy.cz/zakladni?x=11.9080149&y=51.4876051&z=18&source=osm&id=127533634

Gegenüber ist auch noch ein Parkplatz.;-)
opened by vng_me (2019-09-15 07:18:31+00:00): "Вандализм?"
The place has gone or never existed. This is an auto-generated note from MAPS.ME application: a user reports a POI that is visible on a map (which can be outdated), but cannot be found on the ground.
POI name: спасибо гитлеру
POI types: shop
OSM data version: 2019-08-30T18:41:13Z
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opened by vng_me (2019-09-15 07:18:39+00:00): "Вандализм?"
The place has gone or never existed. This is an auto-generated note from MAPS.ME application: a user reports a POI that is visible on a map (which can be outdated), but cannot be found on the ground.
POI name: спасибо гитлеру
POI types: shop
OSM data version: 2019-08-30T18:41:13Z
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opened by  (2019-09-15 07:19:07+00:00): Biesse di Corradini
closed by mcheck (2020-02-08 00:13:49+00:00): e' gia in mappa...
opened by vng_me (2019-09-15 07:21:17+00:00): "Имя?"
The place has gone or never existed. This is an auto-generated note from MAPS.ME application: a user reports a POI that is visible on a map (which can be outdated), but cannot be found on the ground.
POI name: Галко Макс
POI types: building
OSM data version: 2019-08-30T18:41:13Z
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opened by Eugene  Lavorko (2019-09-15 07:21:35+00:00): "Магазин не открылся"
The place has gone or never existed. This is an auto-generated note from MAPS.ME application: a user reports a POI that is visible on a map (which can be outdated), but cannot be found on the ground.
POI has no name
POI types: building
OSM data version: 2019-08-30T18:41:13Z
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closed by DemoLogin (2019-10-09 15:30:26+00:00): Дубликат заметки https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1886798
Закрываю.
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2019-09-15 07:23:19+00:00): Pługa jest przynajmniej częściowo dwukierunkowa dla rowerów
closed by Mapminik (2020-03-15 15:28:57+00:00): Dodałem
opened by vng_me (2019-09-15 07:25:39+00:00): "Имя?"
The place has gone or never existed. This is an auto-generated note from MAPS.ME application: a user reports a POI that is visible on a map (which can be outdated), but cannot be found on the ground.
POI name: Галко Макс
POI types: building
OSM data version: 2019-08-30T18:41:13Z
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opened by  (2019-09-15 07:26:01+00:00): Колодязь
closed by as4tik (2020-07-18 21:33:49+00:00): Нанес. Хотя на спутниковом снимке не видно его. Как бы не ошибка это была.
opened by angys (2019-09-15 07:26:56+00:00): TRACE
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2019-09-15 07:28:53+00:00): Unable to answer "What is the name of this road?" for https://osm.org/way/509136214 via StreetComplete 14.0-beta1:

część jest w tunelu pod budynkiem, prawda?
closed by Le5zek (2020-03-09 14:14:42+00:00): To droga wewnętrzna bez nazwy, niedostępna publicznie
commented by Mateusz Konieczny (2020-03-10 10:33:55+00:00): "część jest w tunelu pod budynkiem, prawda?" pozostaje nierozwiązana
closed by Le5zek (2020-03-13 19:03:52+00:00): Tunel naniesiony
opened by Mateusz Konieczny (2019-09-15 07:32:27+00:00): Unable to answer "What kind of building is this?" for https://osm.org/way/177567249 via StreetComplete 14.0-beta1:

to jest jakiś budynek?

nie widzę by coś tu było 

jeśli podziemny to location=underground brakuje

Attached photo(s):
https://westnordost.de/p/5818.jpg
closed by Le5zek (2020-03-09 14:18:26+00:00): Underground water filter station