piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
closed by cronoser (2019-03-14 02:02:12+00:00): este tipo de notas no aporta nada, sabemos que hay multitud de cosas por poner, es mejor aprender a colaborar y añadir las puntos que indicas, si tienes dudas ponte en contacto con osmburgos@gmail.com
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:08:12+00:00): posición defensiva trincheras
closed by cronoser (2019-03-14 02:02:15+00:00): este tipo de notas no aporta nada, sabemos que hay multitud de cosas por poner, es mejor aprender a colaborar y añadir las puntos que indicas, si tienes dudas ponte en contacto con osmburgos@gmail.com
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:09:46+00:00): Posición defensiva-trincheras
closed by cronoser (2019-03-14 02:02:06+00:00): este tipo de notas no aporta nada, sabemos que hay multitud de cosas por poner, es mejor aprender a colaborar y añadir las puntos que indicas, si tienes dudas ponte en contacto con osmburgos@gmail.com
opened by CartoCharles (2017-02-26 23:10:25+00:00): footway ici
opened by CartoCharles (2017-02-26 23:10:26+00:00): small passage here
commented by Jakka (2017-02-27 11:21:56+00:00): Pouvez-vs mettre quelque pin pour montrer passage. Sur image aérienne pas possible de voir. Merci
closed by CartoCharles (2017-02-28 08:40:59+00:00): Sure it is not clear. I have added it with "Imagerie aérienne SPW(allonie) 2015" in JOSM (good resource by the way).
opened by CartoCharles (2017-02-26 23:10:27+00:00): steps here
commented by Jakka (2017-02-27 11:11:10+00:00): Possible plud de detail connection des rue entre maison nr?
closed by CartoCharles (2017-02-28 08:34:11+00:00): Yes now that I look at the aerial photo, it is not easy. I remember it was a small passage. I found it with "Imagerie aéreinne SPW(allonie) 2015" in JOSM
opened by Martin868 (2017-02-26 23:10:27+00:00): Hi. 

I would like to voice a demand for whoever is drawing all those sidewalks, crossings and doors here (west downtown Montreal), could you STOP please. This is really adding a lot of useless noise to the map. OSM is not the place for this kind of details.  It will mess-up GPS devices and make the map harder to read. It adds no useful information for the general user.

In OSM, on a street way, there is a "sidewalk" field you can play with. But adding a separate way and cutting all the existing ones to add crossings  every damn intersection is just too much. The sidewalk way type has been created for other purposes, for example to draw a sidewalk crossing a park when there is no street. It is not for sidewalks along a street, which are everywhere anyway.  

I voice a strong objection to this work and would like to see it deleted.

Thank you.
commented by Constable (2017-02-27 18:20:49+00:00): I do agree with you, sidewalks should be mapped adding the sidewalk=* tag to a road, they shouldn't be drawn as somebody did here. Have a look at the history of those paths and ask directly to the mapper who added them. In case he'll not answer you'll have any rights to ask the Data Working Group (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dwg) to take care of the problem. I doubt he'll read this note.
Cheers
commented by Martin868 (2017-03-02 14:18:13+00:00): I appreciate you share that information and your genuine interest in OSM. I however have an issue that you are breaking services used by lots of people knowingly, in order to add data that is used in research and maybe a very small subset of disabled people - I doubt many even look at the data you add because there is no tool to do it to speak of. I understand you have to start somewhere if this is a field of interest to you, but there is something in software called backward compatibility. When you build new stuff, the developper have the burden to do it in a way that keeps what is there working. You should have the attitude that whatever you do shall not cause issues to existing users, which are much more numerous. Saying it is up  to the rendering folks to solve it is just too easy. Beside rendering engines are everywhere - phone apps, web sites, dedicated GPS devices such as Garmin, etc. You have the responsibility to make sure you don't break what is there when you start entering you data. You canot just go at it so you can build your labs algorithms  and think the collateral damage is THEIR problem to solve because THEIR is many many people. It cannot work that way. I may repeat myself but I find you are turning the map into a mess with 5 traffic light icons at every corner while 1 is enough, three lines for every street, door icons that get in the ways of POI icons, walking instructions that cannot call street names because they use the "sidewalk" path, etc. In my view you must have a technique that does not create that mess before you go and enter your data. This is YOUR responsibility. This is not my project. However as a dedicated user I don't appreciate you break what I use. Try doing this in Google maps, see if they let you do it.
Don't get me wrong, providing data to disabled people is a fine objective. I don t support the way it is done. Long term I don't think it is viable. A better solution is needed.
commented by  (2017-03-08 20:15:40+00:00): I disagree with most statements in your last point, but I agree that we need to find a solution. Let's go point-by-point again.
A) There are no existing disabled routing solutions: That's just factually incorrect. Here's a really nice one: http://www.rollstuhlrouting.de/
B) You're breaking the map: No, I'm not. It's not like I'm disconnecting streets here or anything. It's also not like people are using a completely foreign tag that's never been heard of. We're mapping features consistently with a tag that was approved 6 years ago! If your renderer of choice is not taking that tag into account properly, let them know. They've had 6 years to figure out how to deal with it. Just see how they deal with Toronto. Sidewalks are represented everywhere like that in downtown toronto and I don't see a big problem.
C) No, it's not "my" responsibility. The tagging scheme is approved, has been approved for a long time. That sidewalk representation scheme is used in similar environments. Is it perfect? Not yet, so what? Routers and renderers need to deal with the data. Again, 6 years since that tag has been approved. It's not like it's a big shock to the community that this tag exists.
commented by cbkiyanda (2017-03-08 20:20:40+00:00): Sorry, forgot to login. Last anonymous comment is me.
commented by user_10317782 (2019-10-23 02:38:04+00:00): Sorry to bring back the dead but has a consensus been reached since then?
closed by user_10317782 (2019-10-27 01:02:57+00:00): IT seems no one wants to continue this discussion, closing it then.
opened by CartoCharles (2017-02-26 23:10:28+00:00): barrière pour bloquer les véhicules
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:11:26+00:00): huidige lokatie van "singel 9"
closed by Jakka (2017-02-27 09:52:13+00:00): verplaatst thx
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:12:13+00:00): Posición defensiva-trincheras
closed by cronoser (2019-03-14 02:02:18+00:00): este tipo de notas no aporta nada, sabemos que hay multitud de cosas por poner, es mejor aprender a colaborar y añadir las puntos que indicas, si tienes dudas ponte en contacto con osmburgos@gmail.com
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:13:31+00:00): Posición defensiva-trincheras y bunker
closed by cronoser (2019-03-14 02:02:25+00:00): este tipo de notas no aporta nada, sabemos que hay multitud de cosas por poner, es mejor aprender a colaborar y añadir las puntos que indicas, si tienes dudas ponte en contacto con osmburgos@gmail.com
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:13:50+00:00): Hier macht Frank Mosher das hallo-bitte-sagen salonfähig.
closed by RoterEmil (2017-02-27 06:33:12+00:00): bitte keine privaten Kommentare, danke :)
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:14:07+00:00): Posición defensiva-trincheras y bunker
closed by cronoser (2019-03-14 02:02:22+00:00): este tipo de notas no aporta nada, sabemos que hay multitud de cosas por poner, es mejor aprender a colaborar y añadir las puntos que indicas, si tienes dudas ponte en contacto con osmburgos@gmail.com
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:15:00+00:00): Posición defensiva-trincheras y bunker
closed by cronoser (2019-03-14 02:02:28+00:00): este tipo de notas no aporta nada, sabemos que hay multitud de cosas por poner, es mejor aprender a colaborar y añadir las puntos que indicas, si tienes dudas ponte en contacto con osmburgos@gmail.com
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:16:02+00:00): "singel 9" bestaat niet meer op deze locatie.
Is 200 meter verder gelegen
closed by Jakka (2017-02-27 09:52:06+00:00): verplaatst thx
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:16:49+00:00): Posición defensiva-trincheras y bunker
closed by cronoser (2019-03-14 02:02:32+00:00): este tipo de notas no aporta nada, sabemos que hay multitud de cosas por poner, es mejor aprender a colaborar y añadir las puntos que indicas, si tienes dudas ponte en contacto con osmburgos@gmail.com
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:18:07+00:00): Posición defensiva-trincheras y bunker
closed by cronoser (2019-03-14 02:01:04+00:00): este tipo de notas no aporta nada, sabemos que hay multitud de cosas por poner, es mejor aprender a colaborar y añadir las puntos que indicas, si tienes dudas ponte en contacto con osmburgos@gmail.com
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:19:03+00:00): Posición defensiva-trincheras y bunker
closed by cronoser (2019-03-14 02:01:02+00:00): este tipo de notas no aporta nada, sabemos que hay multitud de cosas por poner, es mejor aprender a colaborar y añadir las puntos que indicas, si tienes dudas ponte en contacto con osmburgos@gmail.com
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:20:11+00:00): Posición defensiva-trincheras y bunker
closed by cronoser (2019-03-14 02:00:59+00:00): este tipo de notas no aporta nada, sabemos que hay multitud de cosas por poner, es mejor aprender a colaborar y añadir las puntos que indicas, si tienes dudas ponte en contacto con osmburgos@gmail.com
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:20:48+00:00): tankstation toevoegen
closed by Jakka (2017-02-27 11:07:27+00:00): Kan je nog extra detail meegeven? thx
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:21:10+00:00): Posición defensiva-trincheras y bunker
closed by cronoser (2018-03-14 22:37:32+00:00): estaba
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:21:43+00:00): Posición defensiva-trincheras y bunker
closed by cronoser (2018-03-14 22:37:12+00:00): estaba
opened by Etienne Dabo (2017-02-26 23:22:13+00:00): Taganla (OSM data version: 2016-06-20T05:57:02Z) #mapsme
closed by Greg_Rose (2020-11-02 00:49:04+00:00): Tangala - oui. Merçi
opened by steban73 (2017-02-26 23:22:26+00:00): In questo punto presente edicola votiva con sorgente
closed by mcheck (2020-01-05 23:02:23+00:00): messa in mappa..., grazie
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:23:16+00:00): Posición defensiva-trincheras y bunker
closed by cronoser (2018-03-14 22:37:25+00:00): estaba
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:24:33+00:00): Posición defensiva-trincheras y bunker
closed by cronoser (2018-03-14 22:37:42+00:00): estava
opened by Mariotrieu (2017-02-26 23:24:48+00:00): trạm tàu điện đến garden by the bay & marina sands hotel (OSM data version: 2017-01-19T15:17:02Z) #mapsme
opened by Mariotrieu (2017-02-26 23:24:48+00:00): 北京路步行街 (OSM data version: 2017-01-19T15:17:02Z) #mapsme
closed by lleung (2017-06-13 02:14:34+00:00): exist on map
opened by Mariotrieu (2017-02-26 23:24:49+00:00): đường ra vào vườn siêu cây đi MRT (OSM data version: 2017-01-19T15:17:02Z) #mapsme
closed by andi9876 (2018-04-10 15:22:00+00:00): ok
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:25:26+00:00): Posición defensiva-trincheras y bunker
closed by cronoser (2018-03-14 22:37:35+00:00): estaba
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:26:15+00:00): Posición defensiva-trincheras y bunker
closed by cronoser (2018-03-14 22:37:14+00:00): estaba
opened by Vincent de Phily (2017-02-26 23:27:29+00:00): I'm pretty sure that the two "Bellevue Demesne" TDs need to be merged, but it's not clear which boundary (let's call them the road and the stream) should be used for the other boundary types (Barony, CP...). I'd say Bellevue Demesne is split by a few of those but not all ?
commented by Teester (2017-02-27 20:43:53+00:00): Looking at http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/os_opendata.html?zoom=15&lat=53.13514&lon=-6.10645&layers=B0TTTTTFFFF, the two Bellevue Demesnes are split by the Kilcoole/Delgany barony, CP and ED boundary.  

OSi Opendata suggests that they are separate townlands (as evidenced by the different reference numbers in the pink OSi overlay).  GSGS3096 also has two separate Bellevue Demesnes, though they are somewhat hard to discern as the smaller one is so narrow.
commented by  (2017-02-27 20:59:04+00:00): Yes, OSI is one of the sources I looked at. It splits the TD in 2, as it does in a few other cases where the CP boundary goes through a TD rather than alongside it. But that doesn't mean that there are 2 TDs, it's probably to work around geocoding software that can't handle non-hierarchical boundaries. OSM doesn't have such a restriction and can map the 1 TD as-is.
commented by  (2017-02-27 21:01:10+00:00): It's more about the other boundaries that I was wondering. I'm used to deciphering TDs from GSGS3960 but need other sources for other boundary types.
commented by  (2017-02-27 21:09:28+00:00): See alsi https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ie/2017-February/001760.html concering CP boundaries crossing TDs.
commented by Teester (2017-02-28 00:03:09+00:00): I think the key thing in this case is that it is a boundary between EDs.  In numerous cases, townlands with EDs splitting them have been split into 2 separate townlands on both GSGS3906 and OSi Opendata. e.g.  Agall in Offaly: http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/os_opendata.html?zoom=15&lat=53.25794&lon=-7.59429&layers=0BTFTFTFFFF or Killashee in Kildare: http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/os_opendata.html?zoom=15&lat=53.25794&lon=-7.59429&layers=0BTFTFTFFFF

The only places that this doesn't happen is in urban districts, where the urban EDs will cross townlands on a whim (see Naas Urban ED to the north of the Killashee example)

Whether townlands should be split or not in the case of EDs is a larger question, probably better suited for the mailing list since it affects so many townlands across the country.  While CPs and Baronies are obsolete boundaries from an administrative point of view, EDs and townlands remain official administrative entities in Ireland and I'm not sure that decisions taken in regard to those boundaries should necessarily be assumed to be valid in the case of EDs without consensus first.
closed by DaCor (2020-11-04 14:06:59+00:00): I don't believe there is any action required for this note. If I've missed something that can be resolved please feel free to reopen this note and detail what needs to be done to resolve
opened by Edubax (2017-02-26 23:27:36+00:00): GOOD SERVICE (OSM data version: 2017-01-19T15:17:02Z) #mapsme
closed by ovruni (2018-09-07 05:06:44+00:00): Cerrando nota no relevante
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:27:57+00:00): La Avenida Primero de Mayo en dirección norte, a partir de la calle San bernardo es sólo para Bus y Taxi.
commented by  (2017-06-03 20:00:34+00:00): в
commented by  (2017-06-03 20:00:35+00:00): л
commented by fralb (2020-07-12 17:02:11+00:00): Actualizado desde San Bernardo hasta Bravo Murillo (por favor, revisar).
closed by Hugoren Martinako (2025-09-17 19:12:34+00:00): Nota obsoleta y desplazada
opened by steban73 (2017-02-26 23:28:02+00:00): Sul crinale del Monte Colombo sono presenti 5 pale eoliche non mappate
closed by user_7073950 (2019-12-02 20:35:46+00:00): Aggiunte
opened by Jay Galasinao (2017-02-26 23:28:41+00:00): The place has gone or never existed. This is an auto-generated note from MAPS.ME application: a user reports a POI that is visible on a map (which can be outdated), but cannot be found on the ground. User comments: "there is no jollibee here. " (OSM data version: 2017-01-19T15:17:02Z) #mapsme
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:30:13+00:00): Posición defensiva-trincheras y bunker
closed by cronoser (2018-03-14 22:37:41+00:00): estaba
opened by CalvinChan (2017-02-26 23:30:17+00:00): 永宗島海鷗船 (OSM data version: 2017-01-19T15:17:02Z) #mapsme
opened by CalvinChan (2017-02-26 23:30:18+00:00): The place has gone or never existed. This is an auto-generated note from MAPS.ME application: a user reports a POI that is visible on a map (which can be outdated), but cannot be found on the ground. User comments: "永宗島海鷗船" (OSM data version: 2017-01-19T15:17:02Z) #mapsme
closed by _EvaL_ (2021-02-02 05:35:02+00:00): Invisible note
opened by CalvinChan (2017-02-26 23:30:18+00:00): 永宗島海鷗船 (OSM data version: 2017-01-19T15:17:02Z) #mapsme
closed by _EvaL_ (2021-02-02 05:34:39+00:00): Invisible note
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:32:16+00:00): trincheras
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:33:26+00:00): trincheras
closed by cronoser (2018-03-14 22:37:13+00:00): hola, es mejor que vayas completando las zonas según puedas y no abras notas para indicar el trabajo por hacer :-)
Sabemos que hay muchísimas cosas por añadir, pero es mejor que te enseñemos a poner las cabañas, rios, o lo que se necesite en el mapa en lugar de las notas, ponte en contacto con osmburgos@gmail.com y te ayudaremos.
Un saludo
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:34:05+00:00): ce bâtiment n'y est pas
closed by Patchanka (2018-07-27 16:54:04+00:00): supprimé
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:34:12+00:00): trincheras
closed by cronoser (2018-03-14 22:37:46+00:00): hola, es mejor que vayas completando las zonas según puedas y no abras notas para indicar el trabajo por hacer :-)
Sabemos que hay muchísimas cosas por añadir, pero es mejor que te enseñemos a poner las cabañas, rios, o lo que se necesite en el mapa en lugar de las notas, ponte en contacto con osmburgos@gmail.com y te ayudaremos.
Un saludo
opened by Martin868 (2017-02-26 23:34:29+00:00): Pourquoi mapper tous les trottoirs ? Il y a une utilité à ça ? Ça me semble inutile et rendre la map surchargé. On voit pas ça nulpart dans OSM dans d'autre villes à ma connaissance.
closed by cbkiyanda (2017-02-27 21:39:27+00:00): Bonjour. Je réponds aux deux points séparément: utilité et utilisation ailleurs.

Utilité: L'utilité de réprésenter les trottoirs séparéments permet de représenter plus fidèlement la réalité. Un bon exemple (qui n'est peut-être pas utilisé à cet endroit-ci en particulier, est la piste cyclable qui longe le boulevard maisonneuve au centre-ville. En représentant le trottoir séparément, on peut indiquer que la piste cyclable "coupe" le lien entre la rue et le trottoir. (Une personne en chaise roulante, par exemple, ne peut pas traverser la piste cyclable.) Une partie de la discussion sur le sujet des trottoirs se trouve ici: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sidewalks#Sidewalk_as_separate_way

Utilisation: Au niveau de l'utilisation, il y a beaucoup d'endroits qui ont adopté le modèle des trottoirs séparés des rues. Toronto utilise ce schéma dans son centre-ville (par exemple https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/45476265#map=19/43.64465/-79.38424&layers=D ).

Après en avoir discuté dans notre groupe à Montréal, nous en sommes venus à la conclusion que les trottoirs séparés étaient la meilleure option, surtout quand on considère la question des données reliées à l'accessibilité d'un endroit aux personnes à mobilité réduite.

Si vous voulez en discuter de vive voix, ça me ferait plaisir de se rencontrer.
commented by Martin868 (2017-02-27 22:07:53+00:00): C'est la meilleure solution pour qui au juste ? Moi j; arrive a peine à lire l'écran de mon Garmin avec toutes ces lignes duplicata. C'est quoi la clientèle pour ce niveau de détails extrême ? Combien de personnes vont en bénéficier et l'utiliser vraiment ? Est-ce pour le bien de la communauté dans son ensemble où un petit groupe au détriment des autres ?
commented by Peuc (2017-02-27 22:37:09+00:00): Bonjour,
(petite note préliminaire qui a son importance puisqu'il y a un début de théorie du complot ici, je suis membre du groupe local en question)

Martin, tu remets en question un tag qui a été voté il y a plus de 6 ans¹, et qui est est utilisé sur plus de 400 000 occurrences à travers le monde². La liste tagging est probablement plus indiquée qu'une discussion dans une note locale.

Pour le reste, je ne défends pas spécialement cet usage que je trouve plutôt disgracieux, mais toujours est-il que c'est la solution qui permet de s'approcher au plus près d'une représentation fidèle à la réalité du terrain (pour l'instant ?).

1 : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Sidewalk_as_separate_way
2 : https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/?key=footway&value=sidewalk
commented by Martin868 (2017-02-28 15:29:33+00:00): Je ne remet pas en question le tag, il a son utilité pour des lieux à la configuration exotique. mais pour les rue bien standard avec un trottoir accolé à l chaussé comme c'est le cas 99% du temps, je m'objecte fortement a la méthode dite de la voie séparée. Les tags directement sur la voie (way) de la rue sont là pour ça et rendent pas la map illisible, sans parlé des problèmes que ça cause aux applications de routage. Trop de détails c'est comme pas assez, ça rend les choses toute aussi confues.

Voir mini-sommaire ici
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sidewalks
commented by Peuc (2017-02-28 16:18:30+00:00): Comme je le mentionne plus haut, je trouve aussi ça disgracieux en l'état, mais il n'en reste pas moins que cet usage est parfaitement valide, documenté et qu'il est dans certains cas la seule solution pour se rapprocher de la réalité du terrain.

Si tu rencontre des soucis avec les rendus et moteurs de routage que tu utilises, je t'invite à entrer en contact avec leurs mainteneurs respectifs.
Concernant le rendu « carto » par défaut d'openstreetmap.org, il y a déjà un bug plus ou moins relié, ouvert depuis plusieurs années, tu pourras le trouver ici¹.

Si tu es à Montréal, ne voudrais-tu pas discuter de ça autour d'un café un de ces quatre ?

1 : https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1998
Je t'invite à contacter les personnes en charge des moteurs de rendu et de routage que tu utilises pour
commented by Peuc (2017-02-28 16:20:09+00:00): (désolé, copier-coller en trop à la fin de mon message, et impossible d'éditer)
commented by cbkiyanda (2017-03-02 02:23:34+00:00): Juste pour être sûr que tout le monde a toute l'information, j'ai une réponse détaillée avec de nouveaux détails dans la note: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/907314#map=16/45.4965/-73.5713&layers=N
closed by cbkiyanda (2017-03-08 19:21:42+00:00): "duplicata" de la note mentionnée ci-dessus. Je ferme cette note-ci.
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:34:38+00:00): le chemin continu tout droit
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:35:04+00:00): entre d'un chemin privé
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:35:09+00:00): bunker y trincheras
closed by cronoser (2018-03-14 22:37:40+00:00): hola, es mejor que vayas completando las zonas según puedas y no abras notas para indicar el trabajo por hacer :-)
Sabemos que hay muchísimas cosas por añadir, pero es mejor que te enseñemos a poner las cabañas, rios, o lo que se necesite en el mapa en lugar de las notas, ponte en contacto con osmburgos@gmail.com y te ayudaremos.
Un saludo
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:35:32+00:00): fin du chemin
closed by Patchanka (2020-04-10 17:23:05+00:00): note datée inexploitable (quel chemin ?) on voit une route sur une photo plus récente que la note
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:36:05+00:00): Posición defensiva-trincheras y bunker
closed by cronoser (2018-03-14 22:37:36+00:00): hola, es mejor que vayas completando las zonas según puedas y no abras notas para indicar el trabajo por hacer :-)
Sabemos que hay muchísimas cosas por añadir, pero es mejor que te enseñemos a poner las cabañas, rios, o lo que se necesite en el mapa en lugar de las notas, ponte en contacto con osmburgos@gmail.com y te ayudaremos.
Un saludo
opened by  (2017-02-26 23:36:56+00:00): Posición defensiva-trincheras y bunker
closed by cronoser (2018-03-14 22:37:14+00:00): hola, es mejor que vayas completando las zonas según puedas y no abras notas para indicar el trabajo por hacer :-)
Sabemos que hay muchísimas cosas por añadir, pero es mejor que te enseñemos a poner las cabañas, rios, o lo que se necesite en el mapa en lugar de las notas, ponte en contacto con osmburgos@gmail.com y te ayudaremos.
Un saludo
opened by steban73 (2017-02-26 23:37:24+00:00): Fontana da inserire
commented by mcheck (2020-01-06 00:11:25+00:00): Ma intendi una fontanella d'acqua potabile ?
closed by Đuro Jiří (2022-07-30 10:39:25+00:00): Si, acqua potabile, aggiunto water tap.