piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
eggie (2023-09-09 20:34:09+00:00): Dag André.. Wellicht ben je er al eens op geattendeerd, maar dit zij  geen parkeerterreinen.
We taggen parkeervakken tegenwoordig met
amenity=parking
parking=street_side
orientation=perpendicular

MVG
eggie
eggie (2023-09-09 20:34:39+00:00): Dat levert dan minder prominente P's op.
eggie (2023-09-09 20:53:11+00:00): Beste André   Hier is het ook al eens opgemerkt... 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/119013668

Wellicht heb je een reden om niet te reageren? Ben benieuwd.
MVG
eggie
pitscheplatsch (2023-07-29 15:24:39+00:00): revert of https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/139141966
pitscheplatsch (2023-07-29 15:26:43+00:00): revert of https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/139141927
dpolovinkin (2023-07-29 21:29:24+00:00): hi, can you say why you reverted the changes? thanks! DMG decided that such translations are not allowed and were incorrect
dpolovinkin (2023-07-29 21:32:47+00:00): DWG*
miBoieq (2023-07-29 21:40:24+00:00): There were no problems with translations in Belorussia, they are correct and actual. dont need to delete what you are not aware of
dpolovinkin (2023-07-29 21:44:16+00:00): take a look at this thread please, https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/135791056#map=3/69.09/94.37.

Why here is different? It was already decided it's incorrect, why you decided otherwise?

And second question - you reverted changes in Russia as well, it's not Belarus, can you explain?
miBoieq (2023-07-29 21:50:30+00:00): Decision was exactly for few new at that moment changesets that were reverted. I reverted to state was before your edits. In Ukraine russian language is present, why you delete in russia?
dpolovinkin (2023-07-29 21:55:13+00:00): "In Ukraine russian language is present, why you delete in russia?"

Automated translations of places which doesn't have a name in that language is not allowed, that's all. Why does it matter that there are Russian names in Ukraine (it is probably just for historical reasons).

That's it.
dpolovinkin (2023-07-29 21:56:01+00:00): And it seems to me when you say "Ukraine" but say "russia" you it's you who start edit war here
miBoieq (2023-07-29 22:05:38+00:00): you have double standarts: in russia no translations, but in Ukraine - they are historical. no someone called iWowik do mass translation last 7 years and added translation where they not have been event present in xussr.

thats why translations are present in Ukraine and other countries. Or you will to delete all russian names from France?
dpolovinkin (2023-07-29 22:21:33+00:00): I repeat: Automated translations of places which doesn't have a name in that language is not allowed, that's all. 

So such translation additions like ones I reverted were not right and reverted rightfully. You can raise a topic for the reversal of iWowik's commits with DWG is you want.
miBoieq (2023-07-29 22:25:09+00:00): > I repeat: Automated translations of places which doesn't have a name in that language is not allowed, that's all. 

In Ukraine many places also doesnt have russian names, they are just translated.

This is status quo. No need of mass deletions
dpolovinkin (2023-07-29 22:31:09+00:00): As I've said in neighbouring changeset - I'm tired of discussing it, let other people handle it.

but lastly @pitscheplatsch, how do you relate to this topic? you wrote about revert changeset in the 1st comment.
miBoieq (2023-07-29 22:35:02+00:00): you tired because of you are vandal: you deleted in Belorussia a lots of names in many changesets like this one
dpolovinkin (2023-07-29 22:37:33+00:00): Sure. People from DWG will decide who is vandal. Have a nice day.
pitscheplatsch (2023-07-29 15:25:55+00:00): revert of https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/139141903
Awoobis (2023-07-29 16:17:07+00:00): They were machine translated https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/avinet_ua/blocks
miBoieq (2023-07-29 16:37:29+00:00): They are correct even if machine translated
ivanbranco (2023-07-29 16:55:32+00:00): Past nickname: avinet ua
source: http://whosthat.osmz.ru/?q=miBoieq

probably same user trying to avoid block
Awoobis (2023-07-29 16:57:33+00:00): lol
miBoieq (2023-07-29 17:04:11+00:00): block is not related to this
dpolovinkin (2023-07-29 21:31:20+00:00): I had to report those reversals to DMG because it was decided by then it's not allowed to have such automated translation when there are no names of the place where it was put
dpolovinkin (2023-07-29 21:32:41+00:00): DWG*
miBoieq (2023-07-29 21:42:24+00:00): There were no problems with translations in Belorussia, they are correct and actual. dont need to delete what you are not aware of.

you deleted also a lots of names in Belorussia.

> there are no names of the place where it was put

they are translations like in Ukraine are russian translations too.
dpolovinkin (2023-07-29 21:47:29+00:00): you reverted my commits in Saint-Petersburg here, why do you talk about Belarus?

I and DWG, as I see, don't really care where are translations to Russian anywhere as we talk about Russian territories, the only thing is that if there is no name in Ukrainian in Saint-Petersburg, is can't be automatically translated, so your revert is vandalism, it seems to me.
miBoieq (2023-07-29 22:00:30+00:00): I reverted back to state was before your mass deletetion. Most of your deletions were in Belorussia. Mass edits are not allowed. 

In Ukraine also there are no names for most of point/streets etc, but noone deletes these names, so thats why let they be in russia too.

Dont cover yourself by fictional reasons: you just deleted a lots of translations across few countries (Belorussia, Latvia, Litva, Poland and others).

So I put them all back in place.
You not created that, so no need to decide what is right and what is not
dpolovinkin (2023-07-29 22:04:43+00:00): Most of my reversald were inside Russia, it's obvious.

Again - my question is why you restored those translations in Saint-Petersburg? we talk only about this changeset here and now.
miBoieq (2023-07-29 22:09:59+00:00): > Most of my reversald were inside Russia, it's obvious.

no, they are not, most of your deletions were in Belorussia, why your changes had attention.

> Again - my question is why you restored those translations in Saint-Petersburg? we talk only about this changeset here and now.

All reverted all your deletions because of no matter what city / country, if some data is present - deletion of it is "data loss" (term of dwg)
dpolovinkin (2023-07-29 22:17:45+00:00): > no, they are not, most of your deletions were in Belorussia, why your changes had attention
man, just open your profile and see which territories of your reversals are most common in - its Russia.

> All reverted all your deletions because of no matter what city / country, if some data is present - deletion of it is "data loss" (term of dwg)
if I add a garbage data to all the places in India or else, just for the sake of argument - would it be a "data loss" if someone will rightfully revert it? It is by your way of thought.

Okay, I'm tired of discussing it, let other people handle it.
miBoieq (2023-07-29 22:22:23+00:00): > man, just open your profile and see which territories of your reversals are most common in - its Russia.

I count by elements in changesets, it doenst matter how wide is rectangle

> if I add a garbage data to all the places in India or else, just for the sake of argument - would it be a "data loss" if someone will rightfully revert it? It is by your way of thought.

it is actual case did dwg when deleted russian names in Ukraine
SomeoneElse (2023-08-05 10:22:38+00:00): @dpolovinkin what is the DWG ticket number?  I don't see a ticket or a report for either "miBoieq" (the current name of this user) or "avinet ua") the previous name.
-- Andy from the DWG
dpolovinkin (2023-08-06 13:08:15+00:00): Hi! I wrote a report for miBoieq on 29th of July with all the details, at about 10pm European time. I'm pretty sure I've sent it, don't know...
SomeoneElse (2023-08-06 14:48:35+00:00): @dpolovinkin Normally when a report has been submitted it'll be visible to moderators as open, resolved or ignored or give an error that says we're not allowed to see it because it's in the admin queue. I'd suggest submitting it again.
dpolovinkin (2023-08-07 12:46:41+00:00): @SomeoneElse hi again, I think I just received the message that my request is recorded, I didn't submit it second time btw :)
SomeoneElse (2023-08-07 13:26:30+00:00): @dpolovinkin the report appeared in our queue this morning - it looks like it wasn't processed the first time, and was hidden to search for some reason after that.
dpolovinkin (2023-08-14 20:36:32+00:00): Hi again @SomeoneElse!
Wanted to ask - as this user is now blocked, but he reverted my reversals of those unneeded automated translations, so it's all kinda.. needs to be rolled back again to be correct? :) There are still thousands of places with those unneeded translations...
SomeoneElse (2023-08-14 20:46:28+00:00): Unless https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/miBoieq can provide a photograph of a place with a Ukrainian name in St Petersburg, I'd suggest that reverting this changeset was entirely reasonable.
dpolovinkin (2023-08-15 08:17:28+00:00): yeah... but is it possible to revert all changesets of such kind of this user automatically after such a block, or do I need to do it manually again? :)
SomeoneElse (2023-08-16 22:47:59+00:00): @dpolovinkin No, "automatically as part of a block" is not an option, I'm afraid - reverts will need to be done on a case by case or at least changeset by changeset basis.
For example, this one is St Petersburg only, and looking at an example object https://osm.mapki.com/history/way/23021763 shows that name:uk was only added in May by someone who's known not to be a St Petersburg resident, and about whom there have been complaints about poor quality translations elsewhere.
However, it may be possible to verify some of the name:uk over in https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1z2nhttps://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1z2n , for example.
Taya_S (2023-08-24 06:17:10+00:00): @dpolovinkin fyi, I noticed that the reverts performed performed have already been undone again. 

See: 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SillyWillyDon/history
dpolovinkin (2023-08-24 07:23:06+00:00): thanks for the info, will report
SomeoneElse (2023-08-24 08:15:21+00:00): As ever with these, it'd be really helpful if someone could provide evidence that a particular name does or does not appear on e.g. the front of a building, or is or is not visible.
I'd also suggest a slightly less confrontational initial approach than on https://openstreetmap.org/changeset/140296500 (currently the only comment at https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=19874231 ).
dpolovinkin (2023-08-24 08:34:54+00:00): Agree, but as I'm not the one deleting the existing translations but people are basically adding them, it's on them to prove that there is a name in ukrainian on the building. If there is one - sure, add a tag. 

But firstly I'd like to notice that this all about a mass mechanical translation effort to tens of thousands places in Moscow, Saint-Petersburg and Belarus. Russia is the country where there is basically only one language in use everywhere, sometiiimes English (source - I'm Russian), changesets with translations have translated hospitals, pharmacies, rivers and lakes (heh), military poligons, roads, factories, even tram parks... to Ukrainian, there is just no name for them in that language in Russia. It's simply doesn't exist... And those changesets added tens of thousands of such translations...

Well, and secondly - as I lived in Saint-Petersburg for more than 10 years, I can assure you that there is no Ukrainian (for that matter any other language apart from Russian and ocassionaly English) signs and language on buildings anywhere, none, apart from couple historical places maybe.. The same situation is in Moscow.

I can find couple of examples from Google pictures regarding some of those buildings and places, to make it completely obvious, but to be fair it's the job of someone who adds such translation to prove that it's there, not others job to prove it otherwise :) And with situation here, it's to be fair quite obvious (for someone who lives/lived in Russia) that there is no names like that enywhere.

Regarding approach, yeah, you are right, it's just so frustrating to revert this all and then it's all cancelled by the empty account without any credibility.
dpolovinkin (2023-08-24 08:55:44+00:00): examples of how buildings look like regarding languages, several objects from this changeset:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/22997307#map=19/60.01381/30.40901 - https://yandex.ru/maps/-/CDQ5rL1f

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/9895912 - https://szgmu.ru/rus/s/272/ - didn't find entrance but website is on Russian and has only english version

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/23030826 - https://yandex.ru/maps/-/CDQ5v4kp (sign in Russian)

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/518492980 - chain of pharmacies, website is in Russian only https://ozerki.ru/sankt-peterburg/. And the same is with all 2703 pharmacies which were "translated" in only this one changeset...
pitscheplatsch (2023-07-30 09:35:18+00:00): reverted by https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/139177624
pitscheplatsch (2023-07-30 09:35:10+00:00): revert of https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/139177590
felipeeugenio (2023-07-29 15:25:07+00:00): Hola
gracias por sus ediciones.
Por favor no usar nombres genéricos. (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names)
saludos
bxl-forever (2023-07-30 11:01:12+00:00): Hello,

I see you requested a review for this changeset.

It is very difficult to judge this, but since you have been there I will trust you that those two areas do exist.  I don’t understand if there is something special with them, and whether the whole cemetery has other numbered areas, but it does no harm having those already on the map.

Just one technical remark on the two areas you created, e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1193160684
You put no name… but added a French translation.  From a database point of view, this is incoherent.  Maybe something you could fix here.

Have a nice day.
Bigon (2023-07-30 18:50:03+00:00): Hello,

My question was more about the usage of a map available at the entrance of the cemetery to add the different zones. is that acceptable?
bxl-forever (2023-08-06 14:54:48+00:00): Most third-party maps are copyrighted (e.g. maps in shopping malls are a clear no for OSM).  That being said, a small map in a cemetery should not cause the same kind of (legal) trouble.  The good thing is that you seem to have not just looked at the map but also checked yourself, I suppose that should be enough.
Ferrocarriles de México (2023-08-01 16:55:33+00:00): La parte de la 15D que va dentro de Santa Ana no es autopista, pues no tiene restricción de acceso.
WC392309 (2023-08-04 15:55:45+00:00): Agree with this one. It connects US 29 and US 50 as well as serve as a residential collector. Also I didn't notice that it had a secondary state route added onto the road.
trigpoint (2023-07-31 12:03:22+00:00): Hi, this edit does not make a lot of sense.

It now says name=Asda brand=Spar, which is it?

Cheers Phil
VastFolly (2023-07-31 13:50:36+00:00): Hi

Thanks for sorting this, Phil. My mistake. I've only recently come back to OSM. It is (now) an ASDA store, selling ASDA brand.
Luzandro (2023-07-30 06:01:45+00:00): Hi,

I have restored "English Cinema Haydn" at least as alt_name. This is also the name they use on the website you entered.
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ernsterwinwg (2023-07-30 09:46:10+00:00): Thanks, I changed mainly because the english label on wikidata entry the node is linked to is "Haydn Kino" and the a.k.a name there is "English Cinema Haydn".
The website and cinema front report both names but they do actually seem to prefer "English Cinema Haydn" in the address section, so now I am not sure which is the best.
Luzandro (2023-07-31 05:40:18+00:00): Yeah, at first I wanted to revert the name change, but on the other hand it also matches the URL and is written at the entry like that, so I guess it's not that clear, which one to prefer and the important thing is only that both can be found.
moje_konto (2023-07-29 18:18:08+00:00): Przy zmianie nazwy sklepu - do zmiany są jeszcze dodatkowe znaczniki:

brand:wikidata = Q11683985
brand:wikipedia = pl:Abc (sieć handlowa)
felipeeugenio (2023-07-29 16:04:27+00:00): Hola
El uso que le está dando a a algunos tags es bastante dudoso.
No es problema, es normal en maperos nuevos.

por favor unirse a la comunidad de OSM en Telegram (app muy similar a whatsapp), en donde ayudamos a quienes recien comienzan a comprender mejor el cómo mapear. Puede hacerlo en el link https://t.me/OSMcl.

Saludos
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74523978 (2023-07-29 17:37:26+00:00): Pad heb je verzonnen. Er is hier geen pad, alleen een doorgang. Voeg a.u.b. geen onzin toe.
Taya_S (2023-07-29 18:10:21+00:00): Lijkt mij helemaal correct. Je kan duidelijk de opening in het hek zien en dat voetgangers er langs kunnen.
74523978 (2023-07-29 18:37:21+00:00): Voetgangers kunnen overal langs, ook diagonaal over de hele parkeerplaats. Dat maakt het nog geen pad.
maro21 (2023-08-02 20:02:17+00:00): Przed dodaniem POI proszę sprawdzać czy nie ma ich już na mapie.
najodleglejszy (2023-08-02 20:12:07+00:00): pardon, wypełniałem przez StreetComplete odpowiedzi na "czy to miejsce nadal stoi puste?" i coś musiało mi się pomieszać. dodatkowo wydaje mi się że w przypadku FC Caffe obecna kawiarnia chyba zajmuje przestrzeń dwóch poprzednich POI, więc jedno zostało uaktualnione, a drugie chyba zostało oznaczone jako puste, i stąd mój błąd. następnym razem postaram się bardziej uważać :)
maro21 (2023-09-12 20:10:39+00:00): Tak, masz rację - Brusco i FC Caffe wchłonęły lokale obok i się powiększyły. Poprawiłem
Mazda05 (2023-07-29 21:55:47+00:00): https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Russian%E2%80%93Ukrainian_war
Mazda05 (2023-07-29 22:10:17+00:00): https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Don't_remove_tags_that_you_don't_understand

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Don't_remove_objects_that_you_don't_need_or_like

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Uk:Вікіпроект_Україна#[прийнято]_Угода_про_порядок_слів_в_назві_вулиці_(2009)
Mazda05 (2023-07-29 21:55:45+00:00): https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Russian%E2%80%93Ukrainian_war
Mazda05 (2023-07-29 22:10:14+00:00): https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Don't_remove_tags_that_you_don't_understand

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Don't_remove_objects_that_you_don't_need_or_like

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Uk:Вікіпроект_Україна#[прийнято]_Угода_про_порядок_слів_в_назві_вулиці_(2009)
Bobropiton (2023-07-31 12:35:18+00:00): Неверное тэгирование stop_position.
felipeeugenio (2023-07-29 16:48:24+00:00): Hola
Existe esto formalmente? O es porque ahi viven unos Franceses?

le sugiero por favor responder los comentarios. Hay normas en OSM y una comunidad y observando sus ediciones hay varias correcciones que hacer.

Le agradecemos.
saludos
HenriSaucisse (2023-07-29 16:55:14+00:00): Estimado, acabo de leer sus comentarios, efectivamente el lugar es conocido por "Los Franceses", siendo dicho nombre referencia para distinguirlo de otros barrios en el sector. Agradezco sus sugerencias, saludos.
Kai Johnson (2023-07-29 23:25:09+00:00): How were you able to determine that this feature is not a landslide?
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mueschel (2023-07-30 06:00:05+00:00): The area is still tagged as being a landslide. I only removed the mispelled "landuse_2" tag. If you think that 
natural=landslide describes the situation better than landuse=scree (which was there for years and never changed), feel free to change the natural=* tag to the better value.
Kai Johnson (2023-07-30 14:20:45+00:00): We just had a discussion about this in https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/various-landslide-tags-replaced-with-hazard-landslide/101466 after another user replaced the natural_2=landslide tag with hazard=landslide. Those two tags have different meanings and purposes, as I'm sure you can see in the Wiki.

I agree that the natural_2 key is not ideal, but if you weren't able to verify the nature of this feature using a reliable source before making the change, I would propose to revert it.
mueschel (2023-07-30 16:17:13+00:00): If it's not clear what the correct natural value is, then there should be a 'fixme' tag on the area so that every mapper in the area gets a marker in their editor.
Just adding a wrong tag again is not helpful at all. 

Even the questionable 'hazard' tag seems to be fitting according to the OSM Note that was left here a year ago (there is still a hazard in the area if you try to access it). Contacting that user seems to be a good source for further information...
Kai Johnson (2023-07-31 23:50:31+00:00): As the consensus in the Community Forum discussion about this feature was that the natural_2=landslide tag contained valuable information, I'll be restoring that tag.

If you'd like to add a fixme tag to the feature, please do.

Also, please be careful when you're cleaning up tags that you do not delete potentially valuable information without discussing it with the mappers involved or the broader community first.
Bobropiton (2023-07-31 12:37:43+00:00): Здравствуйте. Что за тэг public_transport:version=3?
Грамматические ошибки в name
Bobropiton (2023-07-31 12:40:16+00:00): Новая вариация маршрута не была так же добавлена в отношение route_master Автобус № 639А https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3917915
Kai Johnson (2023-07-30 04:06:37+00:00): Many people in the US would consider the information about latino-owned and women-owned businesses to be important information that the owners would share with the community. Why did you feel that this would be private information that should be removed?
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mueschel (2023-07-30 06:41:13+00:00): The ethnicity of people is considered as private information that needs special protection by law in many places, e.g. by GPDR and CCPA. Having this kind of information in an open database would make use of OSM almost impossible in these areas. I also remember several discussions with the result that a geo-database lime OSM is not the right place for this kind of information.
Kai Johnson (2023-07-30 14:29:31+00:00): That doesn't sound right to me. I would be interested to see the previous discussions you mentioned. Would you be kind enough to share any links to them you might have?
mueschel (2023-07-30 14:58:23+00:00): Check e.g. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Limitations_on_mapping_private_information

Note that this particular case is not mentioned here, but things that are listed there as not allowed are much less problematic according to law.
jumbanho (2023-07-31 17:20:42+00:00): I don't know the details of this particular establishment since I haven't visited, but many businesses will sign details about owners' identities.  In the US it is perfectly legal to do so, as is creating databases about such information.
Kai Johnson (2023-07-31 23:44:56+00:00): Thanks, jumbanho. I think it would be good to discuss this topic more broadly, so I've started a thread about it on the Community Forum: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/mapping-minority-owned-and-women-owned-businesses/101915
Ferrocarriles de México (2023-08-03 01:21:19+00:00): Private information about the owner has no place in OSM, neither do tags added for the sake of political propaganda, like this.
riiga (2023-07-30 19:26:14+00:00): Thanks for your edits!

However, you added 'access=private' to a road (way 128146495) that was already tagged with 'motor_vehicle=no'. I'm pretty sure all modes of transportation (including pedestrians and bicycles) are not forbidden there, it's very uncommon in Sweden. Even if it's a "private" road you cannot forbid foot and bicycle easily. Since you did a survey, do you remember what made you add this tag?