piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
ghaefele (2025-10-07 21:24:18+00:00): Leider disqualifizierst Du Dich mit derartigen Kommentaren selbst. 
Allein schon Dein erster Link zeigt wie falsch Du teilweise bei den Ridges liegst: "a hill or mountain landform with a continuous elevated crest (Kammlinie!). The sides of the ridge slope away on either side of the crest." (gutes Bild dazu).
Du verwendest Ridges u.a. um Gebirgsverläufen einen Namen zu geben. Dabei verlaufen Deine "Ridges" über tatsächliche Kammlinien, aber auch über "Cliffs" (oft parallel dazu), über Grate, über flache Bereiche ohne Rücken, über Plateaus usw. Und das alles durchgehend als eine einzige Linie.

Deine angeführten Bildbeispiele (nur das letzte Beispiel ist wirklich gut) enthalten im Text noch Kommentare wie "Note that the ridge ends where the land flattens out on the north side. It does not continue across the flat area" oder "The individual ridges should stop at flat areas such as saddles and plateaus."
Du kannst nicht von allen unzähligen Anwendungen erwarten, dass Deine "Ridges" weggefiltert werden können. Ridges sind in der Regel Teil der großmaßstäbigen Darstellung und sind, wenn unsinnig erfasst, extrem störend.
Schau Dir doch Bereiche im ganzen Alpenraum an. 
Ich selbst habe von anderen Mappern durch Vergleiche viel gelernt und oft gedacht "Wow, das ist aber eine gute Lösung". Einige habe ich deswegen sogar kontaktiert. Bei Deinen erfassten Daten habe ich mich, zumindest in dem mir bekannten Gebiet, nur gewundert.
Weder die OSM-Beschreibung von "ridge" und noch weniger von "mountain_range" (würde für benamte Gebirgsverläufe mehr Sinn machen) ist ausgereift und sollte dringend überarbeitet werden.
Mateusz Konieczny (2025-03-28 12:16:21+00:00): Hello and welcome to OSM!

What "HOME DEFAEUL" means? Is "DEFAEUL" word home in some extra language?
NeisBot (2025-03-20 18:51:45+00:00): Hello, welcome and thank you for your contribution to OSM!

Your changeset was flagged because your added description contains detailed text that may be interpreted as promotional or SEO-related. To ensure OSM remains neutral and focused on map data, I recommend keeping descriptions concise, factual, and free from marketing or promotional language.

Could you please revise your description accordingly?

#MapWithoutSpam
NeisReview (2025-03-28 19:52:10+00:00): 👎 (Partly) Reverted by https://osm.org/changeset/164224084
s777n (2025-03-24 21:43:04+00:00): Здравсвуйте. Вы зачем то добавили продуктовый магазин с именем "Отделенре Сбербанка" в таких случаях лучше отсавить заметку что магазин закрылся и на его месте теперь сбербанк. Такие ошибки очень трудно находить и исправлять.
eggie (2025-03-20 20:04:07+00:00): Welkom bij OpenStreetMap. Ik heb een uitgebreid welkomstbericht met wat handige tips en links gestuurd als privebericht.
Feedback  Je edits omvatten een veel te groot gebied. 
Je hebt ergens een fietspad verplaatst. Verder een bloembed verwijderd (is dat er niet meer) en inderdaad ergens een schuurtje geplaatst.
Probeer het gebied van je edits te beperken en beter niet schuiven met de kaart.
MVG,
Eggie
Namens de OSM Community
Seter (2025-03-21 20:55:38+00:00): Bel lavoro!
KlopanRin (2025-03-20 19:05:14+00:00): За логікою від KKS, усі вулиці у всесвіті повинні мати нижчу значимість аніж вулиця В'ячеслава Чорновола, тому що "Не можу мати ту саму значимість". ВУИЦЯ В'ЯЧЕСЛАВА ЧОРНОВОЛА НЕ Є ГОЛОВНОЮ ВУЛИЦЕЮ ВСЕСВІТУ!!!! Якби вона такою була, то позначалась би як highway=motorway!!!
eggie (2025-03-20 20:10:21+00:00): Gebouwen zijn  import vanuit het Kadaster. Beter niets aan veranderen. Mocht iets niet meer kloppen dan kun je dit aan het Kadaster doorgeven.
Luchtfoto's zijn niet echt bruilbaar om gebouwen uit te lijnen.
MVG
eggie
winst0n (2025-03-21 20:23:32+00:00): Congrats on your first changes. It seems you may have accidentally dragged a sidewalk node to an inaccurate location. Please try to take note of changes before submitting them, welcome to OSM!
Ale_Zena_IT (2026-03-02 14:21:56+00:00): Hello,
the type=area tag on the outer polygon is superflous, as a closed way with the outer member of a multipolygon relation is an area by default (I came across it doing some Q.C. around the world).

My 2 cents
   Cheers and happy mapping
Carole34 (2025-03-21 11:11:00+00:00): Why have you delete my points ? It was a try but i have 248 points to add or modify on Sète. I'm new and i want to understand my mistakes please.
mueschel (2025-03-21 18:25:19+00:00): Hi, welcome to OSM.
These nodes don't have any common tag to describe what they are. In OSM we have to use a well-defined set of tags to allow all software and all other users to understand what they mean. 
If you look at the tags without knowing what it is and without reading the changeset comment, there is no way to understand what these objects are. Here's the relevant Wiki page describing how bicycle parking is mapped:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=bicycle_parking

248 points sounds like you're copying them from somewhere. What is the source, and is its license compatible with OSM? For importing data, there is a dedicated set of rules: 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines
NeisReview (2025-03-21 07:19:09+00:00): #HighwayChanges

Hello, welcome to OSM.

In this changeset, some types of highway are being added or modified by you. 

Could we know the sources that you used? Thank you.

More information about the changeset: https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-change-viz?c=163877413
NeisRevert (2025-03-21 07:26:49+00:00): This changeset has been reverted by https://osm.org/changeset/163892109 where the changeset comment is: 
Remove vandalism
H4N5-antw (2025-03-26 12:54:05+00:00): Waarde abs8, 

Dank voor uw opvolging van de Leugstraat in Aartsellar; 

mocht wel opmerken dat 
eerste stuk vanaf Boomsesteenweg gezien geen 30km is, wel 3½ton behalve ... zie : https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1537932336913008&focus=photo ; heb max.speed aangepast, max.weight nog niet;

Zone 30 begint pas bij : https://www.mapillary.com/app/?pKey=1645908142678419&focus=photo 

Blijft, hoe aan te geven verkeer in welke richting voorgaat bij de wegversmalling? 

Met overigens vriendelijke groet, 

Hans
kabelhaai (2025-08-17 16:16:20+00:00): 3.5t nog te doen dan
citrula (2025-03-20 20:16:48+00:00): Is it "Silver Spring" or "Silver Springs"?
on TIGER 2023 layer, it says "Silver Springs Drive"
on bing streetside the signs say "Silver Springs"
Nekoatthegates (2025-03-21 15:38:24+00:00): Correction:
Comment is "Edited barrier gate based on Mapillary imagery"
Source used was Mapillary.
stasiu512 (2025-03-20 20:00:02+00:00): Zastanawiam się czy te tertiary nie jest przesadne, droga jest w fatalnym stanie, teraz jeszcze tonaż i właściwie ruch na niej jest mały, co sądzisz?
eggie (2025-03-20 20:07:46+00:00): Beste faketarrier.

We tekenen alleen aparte fietspaden in als er een fysieke afscheiding is. Bv die verhoogde stoep.
Hier is het fietspad in feite een fietsstrook en die was al correct gemapt.
MVG
eggie
eggie (2025-03-20 20:08:50+00:00): reverted by changeset #163879147
Mocht je vragen hebben stel ze gerust.
gr eggie
faketarier (2025-03-20 20:18:27+00:00): hoi! thanks Eggie! het gedeelte Notebomenlaan tot ter Pelkwijklaan is op gelijke wijze afgescheiden van de weg. Het leek mij logisch die dan gelijk te trekken. Maar ja, misschien is een betere vraag of de afscheiding uberhaupt voldoende is om apart als fietspad aan te merken.
groetjes!
eggie (2025-03-20 20:28:28+00:00): Hoi,
Je hebt gelijk.. 
Ook wat voor te zeggen.
Ik heb dat fietspad iets noordelijker laten beginnen waar het 'min of meer' een apart fietspad wordt.
Dus niet vanaf de kruising. Die srand heb ik ook ingetekend. Je moet maar even kijken wat ik heb gedaan. 
Groet
eggie
eggie (2025-03-20 20:29:12+00:00): Mijn edits https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=163879858
faketarier (2025-03-20 20:31:40+00:00): ha, mooie oplossing. fijne avond!
eggie (2025-03-20 20:32:28+00:00): .. en eigenlijk is het nog 'ingewikkelder'.
Je zou eigenlijk bicycle:backward=use_sidepath moeten bijtaggen. Zodat de routering werkelijk over dat fietspad gaat. 
Je zou het kunnen toevoegen anders gaat de routering richting zuid nog over de hoofdrijbaan.
eggie (2025-03-20 20:40:05+00:00): Ik heb die restrictie nog even toegevoegd ter Leering ende Vermaeck zodat de fietsroute over het fietspad loopt naar het zuiden.
user_5359 (2025-03-21 19:12:00+00:00): Hello! Please have a look on https://www.osm.org/way/1369754924. What is the mean of the tag sharko = yes?
user_18023081 (2025-03-21 21:07:04+00:00): It's a tag I forgot to remove after import (it indicates my new buildings to merge with the old ones)
Aleks-Berlin (2025-03-21 19:48:33+00:00): Hi aabbbiee,
please use tags like:
wikipedia=en:Abcd (not http..).
Details can be found here:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:wikipedia#Examples
Thanks, Alex
NorthCrab_upload (2025-03-20 20:01:18+00:00): Zauważyłem, że Twoja zmiana zawiera adresy wymagające dodatkowej uwagi. Przygotowałem listę obiektów oraz dodatkowe informacje:

Nazwa ulicy nie istnieje w okolicy.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/188412829
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/194526166

Pozdrawiam! 🦀
Fizzie-DWG (2025-03-21 04:44:51+00:00): Please see https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/17428
Hufkratzer (2025-03-21 20:25:04+00:00): Hi,
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1369759811 does not look like a horse riding centre; it looks like an outdoor riding arena. In OSM these are usually tagged with leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian, see wiki, example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1299281541

Traduction automatique :

Bonjour,
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1369759811 ne ressemble pas à un centre équestre, mais plutôt à un manège extérieur. Dans OSM, ces centres sont généralement étiquetés avec leisure=pitch + sport=equestrian, voir wiki, exemple : https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1299281541
Nzau (2025-05-04 09:06:09+00:00): Merci pour ta vigilance et ta pédagogie Hufkratzer,
Malheureusement le contributeur mlmt ne répond pas à ses messages.

Je viens de faire les modifications nécessaires.

Bonne contribution,
Nzau
Hufkratzer (2025-05-04 17:19:35+00:00): Merci
citrula (2025-03-20 20:26:42+00:00): Welcome to OSM. Can you explain what you are trying to do with your edits? You deleted several service roads/driveways that are still visible on aerial imagery.
Waller County (2025-03-20 20:33:19+00:00): Hello. As the Waller County addressing authority, we have the authoritative street data in our system. We strive to keep the driveways in place, but several driveways are labeled as roads, and vice versa, which can cause confusion. Our goal is to update these errors for accuracy throughout the county. Thank you.
Samuel Andrés (2025-03-20 20:21:53+00:00): goat
Patryk2710 (2025-03-20 20:21:24+00:00): Źródło email od gminy
NeisBot (2025-03-20 20:28:35+00:00): Hi BeatrizT, welcome to OSM!

Thank you for your contributions to the map. I have reviewed your recent edits and noticed that 96% of the changes in this set involve deletions, including:
- 12 building(s)
- 8 landuse(')

Could you please confirm if these deletions were intentional or if they occurred by mistake?

Looking forward to your response.

PS: I have also sent this message through the OSM messaging system for your convenience.

#DeletionsCheck
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https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-change-viz?c=163879841
Spaghetti Monster🍝 (2025-03-20 21:28:09+00:00): reverted

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/163881762
b-jazz (2025-03-21 05:35:25+00:00): Hi there JHornberry, as I pointed out in a previous changeset comment (https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/162903940), you are breaking multipolygon relations when you delete and recreate fairways that are part of a relation. Please see the wiki at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:multipolygon#iD for help in understanding how to deal with multipolygons. Feel free to reach out here if you don't understand something. Please respond here so I know that you've seen this message. Thanks!
streckenkundler (2025-03-20 20:56:22+00:00): ...CS-Kommentar ist hier natürlich flasch... ähm falsch... 
Korrekt: erste Ergänzungen fehlender Landschaftsdaten. weiteres folgt.
JJIglesias (2025-03-20 21:53:44+00:00): Hi.
However all those spellings are "locally used. The one in this Node is The OFFICIAL NAME given by the goverment of Bolivia to the place (INE) so it could NOT be changed, but complemented with different alt_names.

The same happens to all OTHER nodes in different human settlements in Bolivia. So DO NOT CHANGE anything related to name of places.

Thanks
PolGeoNow (2025-03-21 03:29:49+00:00): Actually, OSM policy is to "map what's on the ground", meaning prioritizing the names used on signs in the area, which is exactly what I've done. See: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Map_what's_on_the_ground

Using an unusual spelling that doesn't exist on local signs makes the map less useful for most users.

Names used in government databases that don't match the signs on the ground are supposed to be tagged with "official_name", not "name" (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:official_name)
somehundred (2025-03-20 21:43:01+00:00): Vai nav labāk, kad autoosta ir kā laukums nevis punkts? Punkts galīgi nenosaka autoostas robežas.
Maris33 (2025-03-21 15:24:03+00:00): Tad jautājums. Kā noteikt autoostas laukumu?
somehundred (2025-03-21 15:27:36+00:00): Tas jau ir ļoti vienkārši. Tā teritorija, kuru izmanto kā autoostu, jau ir laukums. Man šķiet, ka iepriekš jau bija pareizi.
Maris33 (2025-03-21 15:31:00+00:00): Ok, tad darīšu tā kā bija
os-emmer (2025-04-05 19:47:44+00:00): Hello DonalsOhse,
you added operator="Flock Safety"; operator:wikidata="Jones PC":
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/12673214079
Wikidata items always start with a "Q". What is the name of the operator?
os-emmer (2025-04-05 19:51:59+00:00): Hello DonaldOhse,
you added operator="Flock Safety"; operator:wikidata="Jones PC" to this object:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/12673214079
The wikidta-key should always contain a wikidata item. That starts with a "Q".
What is the name of the operator?
os-emmer (2025-04-05 19:52:38+00:00): For some reason the first comment was not displayed at first, Just ignore the doubling :)
b-jazz (2025-03-21 05:40:29+00:00): Please don't create lollipops like on hole 5 (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1369777434). Use multipolygons to properly create enclosing features instead. See my previous comments and wiki reference on how to create those. Again, feel free to reach out for help if you don't understand. Thanks.
Lezurex (2025-03-21 17:55:51+00:00): Hallo HappySquid,

Statt access=no wäre highway=construction besser, poppt dann in Editor-Apps auch entsprechend auf zum neu anschauen: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway=construction

LG Lezurex
DD1GJ (2025-03-20 22:05:42+00:00): Knoten an die richtige Stelle gesetzt. Lebenszyklus auf geplant, da Eröffnung erst in zwei Monaten. proposed: bitte dann Ende Mai am Tag vor der Eröffnung entfernen, damit das Café erst dann sichtbar wird.
NeisReview (2025-03-21 07:22:20+00:00): #DataImport

Hi, welcome to OSM!

With this changeset, you've added a significant number of features that appear to share similarities in their tags. Could you please let us know more about the source of your mapping activity? Is this a data import?

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thanks!
mewhenthe (2025-03-21 16:26:34+00:00): Hi!

I'm simply specifying what type of parking is allowed within the parking spots of this area and deleting old parking spots that no longer exist. (If there is no difference between a parking spot being labeled "Normal" and a parking spots with no data or I've incorrectly tagged these, please let me know!)

This is not an import as stated in my original commit, and was determined using aerial captures, which was made easier due to accessibility parking spots already being labeled as such.

If there are any issues, please let me know, I only wish to provide helpful details.
NeisReview (2025-03-21 18:22:05+00:00): 👍 Thank you for your explanations.
NorthCrab_upload (2025-03-20 21:50:59+00:00): Zauważyłem, że Twoja zmiana zawiera adresy wymagające dodatkowej uwagi. Przygotowałem listę obiektów oraz dodatkowe informacje:

Nazwa ulicy nie istnieje w okolicy. Jeśli adres ma nazwę ulicy, upewnij się, że jest ona poprawna. Jeśli nie, usuń addr:street, a nazwę miejscowości przekaż w addr:place.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/12685764339

Dokumentacja adresów (po polsku):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pl:Key:addr:*

W razie problemów lub pytań, proszę pisać. Chętnie pomogę.
Pozdrawiam! 🦀
pavvv (2025-05-29 12:55:25+00:00): Ale to nie to samo. place=square to jest plac jako obszar z nadaną nazwą przez Radę Miejską, a highway=pedestrian to droga znajdująca się wewnątrz obszaru placu, działająca na tej samej zasadzie, co obok znajdujące się drogi service, po prostu reprezentowana jaki obszar, a do tego chodniki liniowe nawet nie duplikują nazwy.
dknelson9876 (2025-03-25 03:18:50+00:00): Hi Scott, this geometry looks like the kind of thing I would expect to be oneway. Do you purposely not tag it as such?
scottfunkel (2025-03-25 14:54:39+00:00): It is one way. That was inadvertent on my part.
geochecker53 (2025-03-22 18:00:00+00:00): Ich bin heute an dieser Kreuzung entlang gefahren. Es gibt tatsächlich keine Abbiegebeschränkung.
MKnight (2025-03-23 16:51:18+00:00): Niedlich, dass die Abbiegespuren sogar auf der Strasse aufgemalt sind...
alesarrett (2025-04-15 10:02:33+00:00): Ciao voschix. Ho visto che hai aggiunto in alcuni punti il tag danger:bicycle=yes in corrispondenza di pali od ostacoli su piste ciclabili.
Saresti d'accorodo invece nell'usare obstacle:bicycle visto che la key obstacle è più formalizzata (osm.wiki/Key%3Aobstacle)?
Tra l'altro, la stiamo usando anche per elementi di accessibilità, ad es. obstacle:wheelchair.
Cosa ne dici?
voschix (2025-04-15 16:17:54+00:00): Spesso coincidono. Un palo in mezzo alla ciclabile è un ostacolo. Lo stesso palo, se grigio e senza riflettore è anche un pericolo. Una fessura longitudinale nel asfalto invece non è un ostacolo, ma un vero pericolo. Probilmente servono entrambi. Dipende del caso.
Spaghetti Monster🍝 (2025-03-22 10:03:59+00:00): reverted

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/163939198
Niels Elgaard Larsen (2025-04-13 17:09:08+00:00): Please attach speed cameras to the road.

Or create a maxspeed enforcement relation.

See:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dspeed_camera
Mateusz Konieczny (2025-04-04 07:15:49+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1369798663 - should 
name=HOME DEFAEUL
be removed also here?
Mateusz Konieczny (2025-04-24 09:04:20+00:00): Have you checked what this tag may mean before removing it?
Geo-Tobi (2025-03-29 11:28:55+00:00): Bzgl. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1172245011
Wie schon häufiger: hw=footway mit bicycle=designated, das ist eine ungültige Kombination. Bitte um Korrektur.
Cookie Guru (2025-05-13 02:42:41+00:00): The walkways are all private property as per the county plat map: https://aqua.kingcounty.gov/assessor/emap/InternetPDF/qs_NW272404.pdf
puzzlr (2025-05-16 00:46:54+00:00): There are a lot of paths on private property that appear on OSM. If this is a different situation I don't have a problem removing it. What about "if it's on the ground it's on the map"?
Cookie Guru (2025-05-16 00:49:14+00:00): Nobody said you need to remove it.  You just need to mark private things as private.  I already updated this segment, but if you have added others please update them.
opendcc (2025-05-02 15:33:19+00:00): Stimmt Hausnummer 4 Bajuwarenstraße?
woody-soft (2025-05-19 13:28:11+00:00): Hast Recht. Die HsNr 4 wurde der Ecke hinter der 2 und 6 zugewiesen.
radiotrefoil (2025-06-04 06:24:47+00:00): Hi, I was under the impression that the GWH upgrade project was paused, do you have any info regarding the edit to the section between medlow bath and katoomba?
radiotrefoil (2025-07-01 10:27:03+00:00): I've reversed the change to "contruction" from "proposed" between Katoomba and Mt Victoria as there is no construction.
aharvey (2025-03-26 00:01:05+00:00): hi, not sure what happened here, but I think you wanted to split this way into two features, one as a fire trail and another as a path, but somehow you ended up with two overlapping ways. I've fixed this now.
NeisReview (2025-03-21 07:13:22+00:00): #NameCheck

Hello and welcome to OSM.

Thank you for your contributions to the map. I have reviewed your recent edits, particularly those concerning the names you've added or modified.

Some of these names caught my attention as they are quite unique or a bit unusual. Could you please confirm if these additions were intentional or if they might have been added mistakenly?

Looking forward to your response.

Thank you!
b-jazz (2025-03-22 06:31:21+00:00): Hello golf course mapper. The lines that define Fairways and Greens should never intersect or partially overlap each other and we noticed that they are overlapping in one or more of the fairway/green pairs in this changeset. If there is no obvious fringe around the green, the fairway should butt up against the green and every node between them should be *shared*. If there is a fringe around the green that is similar to the fairway, the fairway should extend around the green and the two objects should be merged together into a multipolygon (See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:multipolygon for how to create them with your map editor).  Please read the wiki for instructions and examples of how to better map golf courses: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dgolf_course#Common_mapping_pitfalls. If you have any questions, please reply here and I'll gladly help clarify things. Thanks!
Mateusz Konieczny (2025-04-17 08:18:44+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/12685979578/history

what about shop=pet_grooming pet_grooming=teeth_cleaning ?

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dpet_grooming
mapadu (2025-04-30 23:29:10+00:00): Thanks for your suggestion; I took your advice in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/165654998
5m4u9 (2025-03-21 04:56:35+00:00): hola, solo como sugerencia. En lo posible, no incluir nombres genéricos como tienda o área de equipamiento. El nombre debe ser uno propio, por ejemplo Plaza o Parque Cantumarca.
Mateusz Konieczny (2025-03-28 12:17:18+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1369812242/history - for houses/apartment buildings you can select building type rather than putting it as a name :)
Mateusz Konieczny (2025-03-28 12:18:09+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1369812236/history - the same for industrial buildings, I fixed small group of them
silversurfer83 (2025-03-21 21:18:39+00:00): Hi there :)

if a value (like access) is unknown, it is better to not enter any kind of value (like "unkown"). That allows software looking for missing tags (like StreetComplete) to find these POIs more easily. 

cheers
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galen8183 (2025-03-21 02:38:29+00:00): large bbox is due to correcting bus routes departing from Fairway Station after splitting an entrance way
Kai Johnson (2025-10-21 17:02:20+00:00): Thanks for doing a survey and making some updates out by Ocotillo! Just FYI, there might be some differences of opinion about whether the gated roads going to the wind turbines are highway=service or highway=track. Personally, I'm fine with either one and I mostly leave the highway=* tags on these roads as I find them. But you may find that other mappers will switch the tags.
javbw (2025-10-21 23:49:58+00:00): Yea, it can be a bone of contention as to what it is in such a rural and remote area. 

I have been visiting the area since I was a kid in the 80s, and some of the area has changed so much since then (like the windmills!), particularly the Arroyo Deco Del Diablo drop off routing. 

I went looking for information on this hill online to visit it on my visit home this year, trying to match it to my memory of when I last visited it 25 years ago, and so much of the data online doesn’t match the actual trails and access on the ground as they exist now. As long as I try to get the actual existing ways alignments mapped correctly, people can bicker over the tags as they like 😊

Thanks for the comment😊