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Pikse (2026-06-03 17:21:25+00:00): Teeregistri ja tänavanimede kohta: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/141442421
Anarij (2026-06-03 18:04:51+00:00): Hetkel kasutusel sellised teisendusreeglid:
    """
    Teeregistri nime normaliseerija.

    Teisendused:
    - Lõpust ' tänav' eemaldamine
    - Lühikeste ref-numbrite puhul (<REF_SHORT_THRESHOLD) lõpu ' tee' eemaldamine
    - ' - ' → ' – ' (mõttekriips)
    - Kriipsude normaliseerimine (kõik variandid → '-')
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Pikse (2026-06-04 13:00:42+00:00): Minu kommentaar käis näiteks way/213116024 kohta – aadressiandmete järgi ei kuulu see Anna Haava tänava koosseisu ning seetõttu võiks kaaluda nime lisamist sildiga teeregister:name
Anarij (2026-06-04 13:10:30+00:00): Mismõttes ei kuulu, kui see teelõik asub täielikult aadressobjektil: "ads_oid": "CU03542517"; "lahiaadress": "Anna Haava tänav L2". https://aks.geoportaal.ee/aks/address/detail/10067691
Pikse (2026-06-04 13:53:28+00:00): Vt https://aks.geoportaal.ee/aks/address/detail/LP00018336

Tänav ise ning teise nimega teemaa katastriüksus ja tänava äärde jäävad asjad on ikkagi eri asjad.
Anarij (2026-06-04 15:01:40+00:00): ADS (uue nimega AKS) saab hädavaevu oma põhitööga hakkama, rääkimata muust, aga me ju teame seda juba? 
https://teeregister.mnt.ee/reet/map?featureOid=8022935
Pikse (2026-06-04 16:12:03+00:00): Teeregistris võib teel olla teine nimi, näiteks kui tänav (aadressiobjekt) kattub pikema riigiteega, või siis seal vastupidi peaks olema nimega kohalik tee sama ulatusega nagu aadressiobjekt ADS-is.

Soovida jätab see, et toome sildiga "name" ära läbisegi eri andmestikest pärit andmed. Teeregistris on sellel teel nimi, ADS-i järgi on see ilma nimeta. Eelmises arutelus ma tõin näiteks teeregistrist pärit nime "Pae - Tee 27". See on selline just seetõttu, et tee ei kuulu Pae tänava koosseisu. Eks ole, sellise tänavanimesid pole me siia lisanud, kuna need oleks ekistavad. Miks siin siiski on lisatud teeregistrist pärit nimi sildiga "name"? Nähtavasti lihtsalt sellepärast, et see parasjagu meenutab tänavanime.

Asi ei ole selles, et AKS (ADS) on puudulik, vaid teeregistris vastupidi on teele pandud eksitav nimi (vt viidet eelmises arutelus).
Anarij (2026-06-04 16:34:17+00:00): ADS andmete vahendajana (seda ka ainult siis kui viitsib ja hakkama saab) ei ole siinkohal ju mingi lõpliku tõe allikas. Teed "defineeritakse" teeregistris, kes on ühtlasi teede "põhiandmete" haldaja. https://abi.ria.ee/riha/riha-olemus-ja-pohimotted
Pikse (2026-06-04 16:55:49+00:00): See ei ole õige. ADS ei vahenda teeregistri andmeid, vaid see on teistsugune andmebaas teistsuguse suunitlusga ja seal on sihilikult teistsugused andmed. Sealt puuduvad aadressiobjektina (liikluspinnana) need teed ja teekujud, mida ei ole aadressides vaja kasutada või ilma milleta on adresseerimine selgem.

Juhendmaterjal, mida eespool mainisin ja kus on täpsemalt juttu teeregistri teenimedest ja aadressiobjektide nimedest, on siin: https://maaruum.ee/kaardid-geoandmed-ja-aadressid/aadressid-ja-kohanimed/aadressiandmete-ja-kohanimede-kasiraamat/1313-tee-nimi-ja-liikluspinna-nimi
Anarij (2026-06-04 17:01:40+00:00): Ma ju rääkisi, et las ADS jukerdab kui tahab ja lastakse. 
Teede puhul on lõpliku tõe allikaks praegu ikkagi ja ainult teeregister.
Pikse (2026-06-04 17:32:26+00:00): Vabandust, aga see "lõpliku tõe" jutt on sul laest võetud. Palun loe juhendmaterjali, millel viitasin. Sealt saad teada, mis vahe on teeregistri ja ADS-i andmetel ja millised andmed on milliste andmete suhtes primaarsed.

Ma ei tea, võib-olla ADS-is on mingid probleemid, aga jääb praegu arusaamatuks, mis probleemid need tegelikult on ja kuidas see siinsesse küsimusse puutub.
Anarij (2026-06-04 17:38:56+00:00): Igasugust sõnavahtu võib toota.
ADS praegu EI suuda nimetatud teelõigule juhatada: https://aks.geoportaal.ee/aks/address/detail/LP00018336
Teeregister samal ajal SUUDAB nimetatud teelõigule juhatada: https://teeregister.mnt.ee/reet/map?featureOid=8022935
Seega on teede (ja ka nende nimede)  osas praegu Teeregister absoluutse tõe allikas.
Keiss klõusd.
Pikse (2026-06-04 17:45:17+00:00): Sõnavaht jah. Lisan nii palju, et ma ei ole ainus, kes asjast sinust teistmoodi aru saab. Alul viidatud vanemas arutelus on minuga sama meelt teinegi kasutaja. Kui sul on laiemale ringile mingi teistsugune ettepanek seoses sellega, kuidas ADS ja teeregistri andmetega ümber käia, siis saad küsimuse jutuks võtta siin: https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/communities/ee/79
Yog Sot (2026-03-03 09:06:14+00:00): source the operator name that you have given. I'm affraid its invalid
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A67-A67 (2026-03-02 21:18:19+00:00): Ook hier heb ik de tagging verbeterd. Doctor Colijnstraat hoort in name, Dr. Colijnstraat in official_name.
Space_Kiwi (2026-03-02 20:39:47+00:00): **W of Creek Road
martiensch (2026-03-09 10:53:29+00:00): Hallo Jan,

Waarom zijn deze twee wegen geüpgrade naar secondary en tertiary?
De Herman Colleniuslaan is een vreemde eend. Het is een soort gedoogde sluiproute. Maar staat daarom ook altijd al op residential. 
Maar waarom zou de Friesestraatweg secondary mogen zijn?
Jan Wilts (2026-03-09 22:11:19+00:00): Hoi Martien,

De Herman Collenius heb ik naar tertiary gezet door het doorgaande karakter, écht anders dan een woonstraat naar mijn mening. Wel wat bijzonder door het begin en eind, maar alle wegen die erop aansluiten moeten ook voorrang verlenen.

De keuze voor de Friesestraatweg als secondary (en ook veel van mijn andere recente secondary upgrades). Is omdat deze aansluit op de ringweg en hier een duidelijke ontsluitende functie heeft. Ik denk dat de aansluitingen op de ring veelal secondary zouden moeten zijn (net als in andere Nederlandse steden).
martiensch (2026-03-10 08:02:59+00:00): Hallo Jan,

Ik zie de secondary toch wat anders. In de wiki staat dat de tertiary voor de wijkonsluiting is en de secondary meerdere wijken ontsluit of de mogelijkheid biedt om door de stad heen te rijden.

De Ring Groningen ligt behalve aan de oostzijde dicht rondom het centrum en groot deel van de stad ligt ook buiten de 
Ring. 
Verder kent de Ring Groningen ontzettend veel aansluitingen. Ik tel er 22 of 23. 
Daarmee zorgt de ringweg ervoor dat zij vaak de belangrijkste route is om van A naar B te komen in Groningen. Zij is de grote ontsluiting van Groningen.

Door de vele aansluitingen, zijn veel aansluitingen helemaal niet zo belangrijk. 
Je zou prima een paar aansluitingen kunnen opheffen (Kostverloren, Vinkhuizen-Noord, Selwerd), maar dan dwing je teveel verkeer via andere wijken door de stad. 
Enkele partijen hebben juist als groot plan om de wijkverbindingen in Groningen te schrappen en al het verkeer via de Ring te laten rijden. Er is bijvoorbeeld al onderzocht of de Eikenlaan geknipt kan worden. (Uitkomst: nee, teveel verkeersoverlast op Iepenlaan, en aansluiting daar niet volledig)

Ik zie trouwens niet dat een ringweg automatisch secondaries moet hebben. Als ik naar Assen, Weert, Hilversum of Amersfoort kijk, zie ik genoeg tertiaries.

En dan nu naar de Friesestraatweg specifiek: 
Drie jaar geleden kwamen we gezamenlijk tot de conclusie dat tertiary passender is dan secondary (https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/123977297). Dat is denk ik nog steeds zo: de kruising Aweg/Friesestraatweg/Hoendiep is niet volledig. Je mag enkel rechtsaf.
Daarnaast wordt de Friesestraatweg binnen een jaar of twee versmald en 30: https://gemeente.groningen.nl/herinrichting-friesestraatweg
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f_gonella (2026-03-02 22:09:12+00:00): Edit: parziale *rimappatura
Joseph R P (2026-03-02 23:45:14+00:00): This doesn't seem to be a service road or emergency lane, but rather a really wide shoulder to plan ahead for the expansion of the Beltway and addition of future lanes when needed.
Flap Slimy Outward (2026-03-03 00:19:51+00:00): Okay... Well, how do I tag these, then?
Joseph R P (2026-03-03 00:30:09+00:00): Since there's no physical separation from the road, I would instead add the tags shoulder=both with shoulder:left:width=15 (the shoulder appears to be approx. 15m wide according to a rough measurement on aerial imagery by tracing a line in iD across the width of the shoulder) for tagging specifically the inner shoulders. More specific shoulder tags can be seen here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shoulder
Joseph R P (2026-03-03 00:33:50+00:00): Should clarify that these tags should be added to the highway the shoulders are attached to itself (in this case, the 215) rather than mapped as a separate line.
Flap Slimy Outward (2026-03-03 17:06:45+00:00): Well, I did try to add shoulder=* to some of the ways. Maybe I'll do it once I have more time.
literan (2026-03-03 19:30:56+00:00): нет там пешеходной дорожки, не выдумывайте

и я уже писал, что в поле name не надо писать все подряд, оно для имен собственных 

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:%D0%9D%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F
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A67-A67 (2026-03-02 21:15:39+00:00): Afkortingen worden in Openstreetmap uitgeschreven in de name-tag, ongeacht hoe deze op het straatnaambord staan. 

Zie ook https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Straatnamen_in_Nederland#Straatnaam_met_afkortingen

Ik zal de correcte tagging herstellen.
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LordGarySugar (2026-04-24 22:44:12+00:00): Thanks for updating your local area, just a note to say that you don't need to be drawing multiple residential areas if they are all connected to each other, one combined blob is fine. For that reason I've merged a few of these connected residential areas together. But splitting along roads and public footpaths is fine, the landuse here is very detailed now :)
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mikita_paloika (2026-03-04 09:55:09+00:00): Hi David Ballantyne! What satellite images or data did you use to make the edits in this location? Since I can't find any confirmation of them.
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juicyarp (2026-05-30 09:22:05+00:00): El CORPES no regula la toponimia en español ni puede usarse como base para intentar imponer la forma en valenciano. Estos topónimos en español sólo han dejado de ser oficiales pero siguen en uso activo hoy en día, por lo que no es justificable intentar eliminarlos y supone POV pushing. Por favor, revierte estos cambios lo antes posible.
Jordi MF (2026-05-30 09:48:16+00:00): La RAE afirma que en los "topónimos cuya forma tradicional en español ha caído en desuso en favor de la forma local, se da primacía a la forma local" (https://www.rae.es/dpd/ayuda/tratamiento-de-los-toponimos).

La misma RAE ofrece la herramienta CORPES y afirma que "pretende ser una muestra razonablemente representativa y equilibrada del español del siglo XXI". Por lo tanto, se trata de una herramienta que permite saber qué formas son más frecuentes en textos en español.

Y por último, las formas que actualmente están perdiendo peso en textos formales en español no se pierden. Existen etiquetas (old_name:es=*) que permiten mantener esa información en la base de datos.
Comino (2026-03-02 23:27:02+00:00): You did use an invalid date syntax.
crushtheserpent (2026-03-02 22:28:54+00:00): Main Street in downtown Los Angeles, that is.
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borishag (2026-03-05 10:38:03+00:00): Kruidvat; Wat bedoel je met de tag "Branch: 2941 Leusden" ?
Jelv (2026-03-05 10:44:09+00:00): Is de locatienaam zoals vermeld op de Kruidvat website
borishag (2026-03-05 10:48:45+00:00): Deze informatie zit al in de postcode en wordt als zodanig niet in NL gebruikt. Kan je deze wijziging ongedaan maken?
Mateusz Konieczny (2026-03-03 14:38:51+00:00): dzięki!
ceirios (2026-03-03 10:50:35+00:00): Hi there

Why did you remove name:cy here please?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3285170

You also spelt 'Carmarthenshire' wrong.

Diolch
Ceirios
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