piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
aTarom (2024-07-31 05:38:58+00:00): Hi, thanks for editing, please do not remove names from the sidewalks, in the Catalan group we can give you more information if you wish, thanks
https://t.me/osmcat
thanks
freyfogle (2024-07-31 08:33:18+00:00): Hi, do you mind briefly explaining the logic to me? I am not Catalan, but lived on that street for 5 years (and did most of the mapping in this neighbourhood back then). The sidewalks don't have names, the street has a name. Also, someone added all the address points, which I understand the logic of. The problem is in many cases one large building spans multiple address points, and only one address is actually used. The unused address points lead to bad geocoding.
AmyCupcake (2024-07-31 09:54:50+00:00): The sidewalk is as much the street as the car section, thus they both have the same name.
freyfogle (2024-07-31 10:00:32+00:00): I am not aware of anywhere else in the world that does it this way. The issue is it has the problem of breaking geocoding and other data consumers because you creates tons of duplicates (which is how I became aware of the situation). It is great that the sidewalks are mapped, but is it not clear that they belong to the road? No other bits of road infrastrucutre also has the name (crossings, etc).
AmyCupcake (2024-07-31 10:19:39+00:00): Mapping for a flawed data interpreter is about as flawed as mapping for the renderer.
AmyCupcake (2024-07-31 10:23:53+00:00): Crossings are owned by multiple streets and thus a name would be confusing.

If your data query is as simple as "name=thing", duplicates are not your issue, an overly simple data query is.
freyfogle (2024-07-31 10:28:07+00:00): Help me understand the motivation - why go against the standard used everywhere else in the world and against all cartographic tradition? What I mean is what is the motivation for adding the name to this specific part of the road (which is already named)? And if the sidewalk is named why not also name all the other parts of the road (crosswalks, etc)?
AmyCupcake (2024-07-31 21:39:30+00:00): As to the accusation that it goes against the international standard, it quite simply does not, an overpass query can show you that. Also the wiki explicitly refers to this method as being useful to connect pavements to streets due to the difficulty of automating this for a routing engine.
Jose Luis Infante (2024-07-31 22:59:36+00:00): Benvolgut Ed,

a la comunitat catalana encara recordem el teu pas per Barcelona i coneixem el teu suport a OSM.

A la comunitat local hem tingut uns quants projectes, per exemple #1carrer1nom per anomenar tots els carrers de Catalunya, traslladat a la comunitat espanyola, o importar dades del cadastre. Ara mateix estem finalitzant el projecte per introduir totes les adreces postals de la ciutat de Barcelona.

Dintre de la comunitat hi ha persones que ens interessem per la mobilitat dels vianants i l'accessibilitat, i per això estem afegint les voreres de diverses ciutats catalanes com a vies separades, ja que ens permet afegir informació pròpia d'aquests elements. Entre aquestes dades que afegim hi ha el nom de la via. Les raons són les mateixes que es fan servir per als vehicles: geolocalització, encaminament, etc.

Amb el nom de la via hi ha un problema, i és la duplicitat de la dada als diversos elements que formen part del carrer. Tot això s'explica a la wiki a https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sidewalks#Sidewalk_as_separate_way . Idealment, s'hauria de fer una relació amb tots els elements del carrer, i només afegir el nom a la relació, però és impracticable i gairebé no es fa mai.

Així que només queda duplicar el nom del carrer als diferents elements, ja que és massa complicat, com també s'explica a la wiki, deduir el nom de la vorera respecte al seu carrer associat.

Respecte a la seva implantació, tota la ciutat de Montreal està així. També bona part de Londres, Berna, Hong Kong, ciutats neerlandeses...

Salutacions,

Jose Luis
AmyCupcake (2024-07-31 23:32:11+00:00): Please disregard my comments about crossings, they should be named with the name of the street they are perpendicular to and thus it is not confusing.
LudovicG (2024-11-22 17:39:37+00:00): Bonjour,
Je pense qu'il y a une typo dans "Vidéo publique du projet achéologique".
Sinon, quand je regarde le wiki OSM, n'est-ce pas trop fort de le baliser en "cinema" ? Un tourism=attraction avec un name/description pourrait suffire ?
mavl (2024-07-30 13:44:41+00:00): This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 154471549, 154471594, 154471654, 154471703, 154471723, 154471766, 154471825, 154472123, 154472214, 154472405, 154476812, 154476854, 154476893, 154476974, 154476988, 154477165, 154477210, 154477227, 154477234, 154523122, 154523219, 154523268, 154523436, 154523587, 154523629, 154523709, 154523732, 154523911, 154523931, 154523962, 154524022, 154524121, 154524214, 154524243, 154524279, 154524388, 154525010, 154525455, 154525847, 154525952, 154526075, 154526174, 154526247, 154526328, 154529986, 154530539, 154530858, 154532268, 154533640, 154533803, 154534655, 154537535, 154553938, 154570143, 154570297, 154570339, 154570373, 154570595, 154570605, 154570760, 154570922, 154571228, 154571328, 154571370, 154571421, 154589517, 154589655, 154589785, 154589816, 154589835, 154589896, 154589905, 154591099, 154591242, 154591248, 154591280, 154591315, 154591364, 154591665, 154591677, 154591687, 154592749, 154592799, 154592887, 154593012, 154593068, 154593091, 154593190, 154593653, 154593987, 154594002, 154594015, 154594026, 154594034, 154594043, 154594052, 154594061, 154594067, 154594614, 154598107.
mavl (2024-07-30 13:44:43+00:00): This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 154471549, 154471594, 154471654, 154471703, 154471723, 154471766, 154471825, 154472123, 154472214, 154472405, 154476812, 154476854, 154476893, 154476974, 154476988, 154477165, 154477210, 154477227, 154477234, 154523122, 154523219, 154523268, 154523436, 154523587, 154523629, 154523709, 154523732, 154523911, 154523931, 154523962, 154524022, 154524121, 154524214, 154524243, 154524279, 154524388, 154525010, 154525455, 154525847, 154525952, 154526075, 154526174, 154526247, 154526328, 154529986, 154530539, 154530858, 154532268, 154533640, 154533803, 154534655, 154537535, 154553938, 154570143, 154570297, 154570339, 154570373, 154570595, 154570605, 154570760, 154570922, 154571228, 154571328, 154571370, 154571421, 154589517, 154589655, 154589785, 154589816, 154589835, 154589896, 154589905, 154591099, 154591242, 154591248, 154591280, 154591315, 154591364, 154591665, 154591677, 154591687, 154592749, 154592799, 154592887, 154593012, 154593068, 154593091, 154593190, 154593653, 154593987, 154594002, 154594015, 154594026, 154594034, 154594043, 154594052, 154594061, 154594067, 154594614, 154598107.
mavl (2024-07-30 13:44:36+00:00): This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 154471549, 154471594, 154471654, 154471703, 154471723, 154471766, 154471825, 154472123, 154472214, 154472405, 154476812, 154476854, 154476893, 154476974, 154476988, 154477165, 154477210, 154477227, 154477234, 154523122, 154523219, 154523268, 154523436, 154523587, 154523629, 154523709, 154523732, 154523911, 154523931, 154523962, 154524022, 154524121, 154524214, 154524243, 154524279, 154524388, 154525010, 154525455, 154525847, 154525952, 154526075, 154526174, 154526247, 154526328, 154529986, 154530539, 154530858, 154532268, 154533640, 154533803, 154534655, 154537535, 154553938, 154570143, 154570297, 154570339, 154570373, 154570595, 154570605, 154570760, 154570922, 154571228, 154571328, 154571370, 154571421, 154589517, 154589655, 154589785, 154589816, 154589835, 154589896, 154589905, 154591099, 154591242, 154591248, 154591280, 154591315, 154591364, 154591665, 154591677, 154591687, 154592749, 154592799, 154592887, 154593012, 154593068, 154593091, 154593190, 154593653, 154593987, 154594002, 154594015, 154594026, 154594034, 154594043, 154594052, 154594061, 154594067, 154594614, 154598107.
mavl (2024-07-30 13:44:45+00:00): This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 154471549, 154471594, 154471654, 154471703, 154471723, 154471766, 154471825, 154472123, 154472214, 154472405, 154476812, 154476854, 154476893, 154476974, 154476988, 154477165, 154477210, 154477227, 154477234, 154523122, 154523219, 154523268, 154523436, 154523587, 154523629, 154523709, 154523732, 154523911, 154523931, 154523962, 154524022, 154524121, 154524214, 154524243, 154524279, 154524388, 154525010, 154525455, 154525847, 154525952, 154526075, 154526174, 154526247, 154526328, 154529986, 154530539, 154530858, 154532268, 154533640, 154533803, 154534655, 154537535, 154553938, 154570143, 154570297, 154570339, 154570373, 154570595, 154570605, 154570760, 154570922, 154571228, 154571328, 154571370, 154571421, 154589517, 154589655, 154589785, 154589816, 154589835, 154589896, 154589905, 154591099, 154591242, 154591248, 154591280, 154591315, 154591364, 154591665, 154591677, 154591687, 154592749, 154592799, 154592887, 154593012, 154593068, 154593091, 154593190, 154593653, 154593987, 154594002, 154594015, 154594026, 154594034, 154594043, 154594052, 154594061, 154594067, 154594614, 154598107.
mavl (2024-07-30 13:44:44+00:00): This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 154471549, 154471594, 154471654, 154471703, 154471723, 154471766, 154471825, 154472123, 154472214, 154472405, 154476812, 154476854, 154476893, 154476974, 154476988, 154477165, 154477210, 154477227, 154477234, 154523122, 154523219, 154523268, 154523436, 154523587, 154523629, 154523709, 154523732, 154523911, 154523931, 154523962, 154524022, 154524121, 154524214, 154524243, 154524279, 154524388, 154525010, 154525455, 154525847, 154525952, 154526075, 154526174, 154526247, 154526328, 154529986, 154530539, 154530858, 154532268, 154533640, 154533803, 154534655, 154537535, 154553938, 154570143, 154570297, 154570339, 154570373, 154570595, 154570605, 154570760, 154570922, 154571228, 154571328, 154571370, 154571421, 154589517, 154589655, 154589785, 154589816, 154589835, 154589896, 154589905, 154591099, 154591242, 154591248, 154591280, 154591315, 154591364, 154591665, 154591677, 154591687, 154592749, 154592799, 154592887, 154593012, 154593068, 154593091, 154593190, 154593653, 154593987, 154594002, 154594015, 154594026, 154594034, 154594043, 154594052, 154594061, 154594067, 154594614, 154598107.
mavl (2024-07-30 13:44:39+00:00): This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 154471549, 154471594, 154471654, 154471703, 154471723, 154471766, 154471825, 154472123, 154472214, 154472405, 154476812, 154476854, 154476893, 154476974, 154476988, 154477165, 154477210, 154477227, 154477234, 154523122, 154523219, 154523268, 154523436, 154523587, 154523629, 154523709, 154523732, 154523911, 154523931, 154523962, 154524022, 154524121, 154524214, 154524243, 154524279, 154524388, 154525010, 154525455, 154525847, 154525952, 154526075, 154526174, 154526247, 154526328, 154529986, 154530539, 154530858, 154532268, 154533640, 154533803, 154534655, 154537535, 154553938, 154570143, 154570297, 154570339, 154570373, 154570595, 154570605, 154570760, 154570922, 154571228, 154571328, 154571370, 154571421, 154589517, 154589655, 154589785, 154589816, 154589835, 154589896, 154589905, 154591099, 154591242, 154591248, 154591280, 154591315, 154591364, 154591665, 154591677, 154591687, 154592749, 154592799, 154592887, 154593012, 154593068, 154593091, 154593190, 154593653, 154593987, 154594002, 154594015, 154594026, 154594034, 154594043, 154594052, 154594061, 154594067, 154594614, 154598107.
mavl (2024-07-30 13:44:37+00:00): This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 154471549, 154471594, 154471654, 154471703, 154471723, 154471766, 154471825, 154472123, 154472214, 154472405, 154476812, 154476854, 154476893, 154476974, 154476988, 154477165, 154477210, 154477227, 154477234, 154523122, 154523219, 154523268, 154523436, 154523587, 154523629, 154523709, 154523732, 154523911, 154523931, 154523962, 154524022, 154524121, 154524214, 154524243, 154524279, 154524388, 154525010, 154525455, 154525847, 154525952, 154526075, 154526174, 154526247, 154526328, 154529986, 154530539, 154530858, 154532268, 154533640, 154533803, 154534655, 154537535, 154553938, 154570143, 154570297, 154570339, 154570373, 154570595, 154570605, 154570760, 154570922, 154571228, 154571328, 154571370, 154571421, 154589517, 154589655, 154589785, 154589816, 154589835, 154589896, 154589905, 154591099, 154591242, 154591248, 154591280, 154591315, 154591364, 154591665, 154591677, 154591687, 154592749, 154592799, 154592887, 154593012, 154593068, 154593091, 154593190, 154593653, 154593987, 154594002, 154594015, 154594026, 154594034, 154594043, 154594052, 154594061, 154594067, 154594614, 154598107.
mavl (2024-07-30 13:44:35+00:00): This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 154471549, 154471594, 154471654, 154471703, 154471723, 154471766, 154471825, 154472123, 154472214, 154472405, 154476812, 154476854, 154476893, 154476974, 154476988, 154477165, 154477210, 154477227, 154477234, 154523122, 154523219, 154523268, 154523436, 154523587, 154523629, 154523709, 154523732, 154523911, 154523931, 154523962, 154524022, 154524121, 154524214, 154524243, 154524279, 154524388, 154525010, 154525455, 154525847, 154525952, 154526075, 154526174, 154526247, 154526328, 154529986, 154530539, 154530858, 154532268, 154533640, 154533803, 154534655, 154537535, 154553938, 154570143, 154570297, 154570339, 154570373, 154570595, 154570605, 154570760, 154570922, 154571228, 154571328, 154571370, 154571421, 154589517, 154589655, 154589785, 154589816, 154589835, 154589896, 154589905, 154591099, 154591242, 154591248, 154591280, 154591315, 154591364, 154591665, 154591677, 154591687, 154592749, 154592799, 154592887, 154593012, 154593068, 154593091, 154593190, 154593653, 154593987, 154594002, 154594015, 154594026, 154594034, 154594043, 154594052, 154594061, 154594067, 154594614, 154598107.
mavl (2024-07-30 13:44:40+00:00): This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 154471549, 154471594, 154471654, 154471703, 154471723, 154471766, 154471825, 154472123, 154472214, 154472405, 154476812, 154476854, 154476893, 154476974, 154476988, 154477165, 154477210, 154477227, 154477234, 154523122, 154523219, 154523268, 154523436, 154523587, 154523629, 154523709, 154523732, 154523911, 154523931, 154523962, 154524022, 154524121, 154524214, 154524243, 154524279, 154524388, 154525010, 154525455, 154525847, 154525952, 154526075, 154526174, 154526247, 154526328, 154529986, 154530539, 154530858, 154532268, 154533640, 154533803, 154534655, 154537535, 154553938, 154570143, 154570297, 154570339, 154570373, 154570595, 154570605, 154570760, 154570922, 154571228, 154571328, 154571370, 154571421, 154589517, 154589655, 154589785, 154589816, 154589835, 154589896, 154589905, 154591099, 154591242, 154591248, 154591280, 154591315, 154591364, 154591665, 154591677, 154591687, 154592749, 154592799, 154592887, 154593012, 154593068, 154593091, 154593190, 154593653, 154593987, 154594002, 154594015, 154594026, 154594034, 154594043, 154594052, 154594061, 154594067, 154594614, 154598107.
mavl (2024-07-30 13:44:42+00:00): This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 154471549, 154471594, 154471654, 154471703, 154471723, 154471766, 154471825, 154472123, 154472214, 154472405, 154476812, 154476854, 154476893, 154476974, 154476988, 154477165, 154477210, 154477227, 154477234, 154523122, 154523219, 154523268, 154523436, 154523587, 154523629, 154523709, 154523732, 154523911, 154523931, 154523962, 154524022, 154524121, 154524214, 154524243, 154524279, 154524388, 154525010, 154525455, 154525847, 154525952, 154526075, 154526174, 154526247, 154526328, 154529986, 154530539, 154530858, 154532268, 154533640, 154533803, 154534655, 154537535, 154553938, 154570143, 154570297, 154570339, 154570373, 154570595, 154570605, 154570760, 154570922, 154571228, 154571328, 154571370, 154571421, 154589517, 154589655, 154589785, 154589816, 154589835, 154589896, 154589905, 154591099, 154591242, 154591248, 154591280, 154591315, 154591364, 154591665, 154591677, 154591687, 154592749, 154592799, 154592887, 154593012, 154593068, 154593091, 154593190, 154593653, 154593987, 154594002, 154594015, 154594026, 154594034, 154594043, 154594052, 154594061, 154594067, 154594614, 154598107.
LockOnGuy (2024-07-30 14:07:11+00:00): Hi farhadGuli, I had asked you before to please use good changeset comment for your edit, when you don't use good changeset comment, you are wasting our time, your fellow mappers trying to understand what is your edit about. Please next time try to explain in the changeset comment and say what did you edit and why. thank you.    
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_changeset_comments
mavl (2024-07-30 13:44:38+00:00): This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 154471549, 154471594, 154471654, 154471703, 154471723, 154471766, 154471825, 154472123, 154472214, 154472405, 154476812, 154476854, 154476893, 154476974, 154476988, 154477165, 154477210, 154477227, 154477234, 154523122, 154523219, 154523268, 154523436, 154523587, 154523629, 154523709, 154523732, 154523911, 154523931, 154523962, 154524022, 154524121, 154524214, 154524243, 154524279, 154524388, 154525010, 154525455, 154525847, 154525952, 154526075, 154526174, 154526247, 154526328, 154529986, 154530539, 154530858, 154532268, 154533640, 154533803, 154534655, 154537535, 154553938, 154570143, 154570297, 154570339, 154570373, 154570595, 154570605, 154570760, 154570922, 154571228, 154571328, 154571370, 154571421, 154589517, 154589655, 154589785, 154589816, 154589835, 154589896, 154589905, 154591099, 154591242, 154591248, 154591280, 154591315, 154591364, 154591665, 154591677, 154591687, 154592749, 154592799, 154592887, 154593012, 154593068, 154593091, 154593190, 154593653, 154593987, 154594002, 154594015, 154594026, 154594034, 154594043, 154594052, 154594061, 154594067, 154594614, 154598107.
eggie (2024-07-30 14:47:48+00:00): Welkom bij OpenStreetMap. Ik heb een uitgebreid welkomstbericht met wat handige tips en links gestuurd als privebericht. 

Feedback Ik heb de node  met amenity=parking die je extra had toegevoegd op het hoekje van het vlak verwijderd.

Een vlak is voldoende. 

Verder horen op parkeervakken geen adresgegevens. 
Je edits https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=154607104

MVG, 

Eggie 

Namens de OSM Community
NGL-engel (2025-02-27 23:02:51+00:00): Hallo, mavl. Du hast die Bushaltestelle "Cloppenburg, Bührener Tannen" an der Kurve der "Friesoyther Straße" eingetragen. Ist dort wirklich eine Bushaltepunkt? Ich habe dort keine gesehen - aber vielleicht habe ich ja auch nicht richtig hingeschaut. Könnte es sein das du die Haltestelle ca.500m weiter nördlich meinst?
Gruß NGL-Engel
mavl (2025-02-28 02:18:06+00:00): I don't know. I reverted the changesets only.  
The reason: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/16511
habi (2024-07-30 13:40:11+00:00): No, normalizing my `charge`-Tags :)
Greg91 (2024-09-08 21:10:44+00:00): Hi! Your edit is not correct in location where I have knowledge "on the ground" (Yerevan, Armenia) and, does not make sense. Please, revert
mavl (2024-09-09 02:25:42+00:00): Hello. Which objects are wrong? Provide hyperlinks, please.
Greg91 (2024-10-16 17:50:57+00:00): With such massive edit, I believe, the burden of proof lies on the one who makes changes. 

What are your sources?
Greg91 (2024-10-16 18:12:50+00:00): Can you list all the objects, this changeset affected in Yerevan and Armenia?
Greg91 (2024-10-16 18:15:38+00:00): As example, how do you know this is not a platform and should not have a "bus" tag?

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/277025541/history
Greg91 (2024-10-16 18:21:17+00:00): Apologies!
I, finally, see that your changes are *revierting* mass changesets.

Still what I saw on the ground in Armenia was not correct (but I cannot recall/find on map, what exactly, after a month). Can you, please, point to a subset of objects in Yerevan / Armenia?
mavl (2024-10-17 03:41:28+00:00):     > What are your sources?    
  
My source is the request to Data Working Group.    
  
    > Can you list all the objects, this changeset affected in Yerevan and Armenia?  
  
You can see it yourself.  
  
    > As example, how do you know this is not a platform and should not have a "bus" tag?  
  
I don't know. I didn't change anything. I just returned the objects to their previous state.  
  
    > Can you, please, point to a subset of objects in Yerevan / Armenia?  
  
You can see it yourself.
Greg91 (2024-10-17 23:51:40+00:00): Thanks! And am sorry for my confusing questions and request. For a long time I did not realise your edit was not a mass edit, but the reversal of mass edits. And I was not familiar with DWG abbreviation as well.

I cannot (do not know how!) get the subset of changes for a particular area.

And, again, thanks for your work reverting mass changes!)
mavl (2024-10-18 05:03:30+00:00):     > I cannot (do not know how!) get the subset of changes for a particular area.  
  
For example:  
1. Run JOSM  
2. Open changeset (File, Open Location... [Ctrl+L]) - https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/154607308   
3. Find your area  
4. Check OSM objects
balint36 (2024-08-26 16:04:21+00:00): Bocsi, de ez milyen vonal akar lenni?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1304651110
Stn200220022002 (2024-08-10 08:40:03+00:00): Buongiorno, 
scusi il disturbo ma Le scrivo in merito a delle indicazioni di sentiero e dei percorsi che lei segnala che violano il mio domicilio privato.
In particolare:
- questo è il sentiero tratteggiato in rosso da Lei indicato nella zona
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/154607708
- questo è il riferimento specifico su Googlemaps:
https://www.google.it/maps/search/Via+Veneto+58/@45.3879102,11.6563347,17.12z?entry=ttu

Si tratta di un fondo privato che ha illeggittimamente attraversato per raggiungere Via Monte Cereo in Bastia di Rovolon PD. Gli accessi sono debitamente segnalati con catena e cartello "VIETATO L'ACCESSO PROPRIETA' PRIVATA I TRASGRESSORI SARANNO DENUNCIATI PER VIOLAZIONE DI DOMICILIO AI SENSI DELL'ART. 614 C.P. ". Inoltre, con indicazione del divieto specifico anche iconografico di divieto di accesso e anche del passaggio a piedi . Limitrofo vi è un fondo coltivato al quale ex lege l'accesso non è consentito in quanto coltivazione, il cui accesso è riservato alle macchine agricole per il suo lavoro e quindi per sua natura avulso al passaggio pedonale e al calpestio.

Ho provveduto già ad Aprile 2024 a rimuovere tale sentiero sia da Komoot che da Openstreetmap; tuttavia mi risulta che ad inizio Agosto Lei abbia risegnalato il percorso con nuova violazione del domicilio.
Ho provveduto in data odierna nuovamente a rimuovere il sentiero da Openstreetmaps e risegnalarlo a Komoot.

Chiedo, pertanto, direttamente la sua collaborazione nel non passare più per tale fondo e non segnalarlo come sentiero, nel quale si trova la mia dimora privata e le mie coltivazioni che sono in produzione e non sono calpestabili. Esiste infatti un apposito accesso a Via Monte Cereo che passa per la pubblica via e quindi percorribile da Via Veneto: 
https://www.google.it/maps/search/Via+Veneto+52/@45.3885715,11.6555781,17.73z?entry=ttu

Ben comprendo che non fosse tale l'intenzione, tuttavia si è determinata una situazione molto grave per cui mi trovo obbligato a chiedere l'attenzione. Abbiamo subito numerose violazioni della proprietà privata che dobbiamo costantemente censurare, estranei ci sono arrivati direttamente in giardino e in casa. Tra questi molti avevano cani liberi che hanno azzannato molteplici volte il nostro cagnolino che era nel proprio giardino. 

Inoltre siamo coltivatori della terra, di certo una passione in comune con l'escursionismo, e i nostri fondi coltivati a produzione si sono trovati calpestati con la rovina delle piantagioni ivi recate. LA SITUAZIONE CI E' VERAMENTE INVIVIBILE E GRAVE e diversamente dovremo procedere avanti alle autorità competenti. 

La ringrazio sinora dell'attenzione e collaborazione e Le faccio un ottimo augurio per la sua passione da escursionista; sperando che la conoscenza anche di queste problematiche possa solo arricchirla.
 
Le porgo i miei migliori saluti.