piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
grzegorz75jan (2024-06-23 23:20:11+00:00): Na tą chwilę okoliczności łagodzące:
  - dobra komunikatywność, 
  - krótki staż.
map per (2024-05-23 19:17:18+00:00): Hallo MWE69a,

wegen review_requested:
Du hast hier die Kategorie von Gebäude zu Universitätsgelände geändert. amenity=university war dort aber schon als node eingetragen (vgl. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/11883089539) und die Fläche ist natürlich weiterhin ein Gebäude. Ich hab deine Änderung deshalb mit CS 151739638 zurückgesetzt.

Viele Grüße
map per
joost schouppe (2024-05-24 14:44:19+00:00): Are you sure about this correction:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1257581148/history
The address comes straight from ICAR - it could very well be that the address is not very logical, but that doesn't make less official.
MFlamm (2024-05-29 18:09:40+00:00): In this changeset, you updated some speed limits to 20 km/h. Those streets have de facto become so called living streets (zone de rencontre) and there is a specific highway tag for those: highway=living_street
BR_pebble (2024-07-02 08:21:56+00:00): Hello Arjun khotodkar
Thank you for mapping!
I have added missing buildings -37.8638851, 144.9808387;
-37.8638584, 144.9809066;
-37.8638126, 144.9810379
-37.8639211, 144.9808963;
-37.8638952, 144.980746;
-37.8636154, 144.9803341;
-37.8630516, 144.9816222
-37.8627545, 144.9815063;
-37.8628207, 144.9813745;
-37.8625635, 144.9816571;
Please inspect your task carefully before closing.
Happy Mapping!
tux67 (2024-05-23 11:06:30+00:00): Hallo DahmenAn,
willkommen bei Openstreetmap und danke, dass du mithelfen möchtest, die Kartendaten zu verbessern.
Du hattest ein Review angefragt. Das Verschieben der beiden vorhandenen Nodes und der neue sehen so weit gut aus.

Prima, dass du deine Änderungssätze mit aussagekräftigen Kommentaren versiehst.
Eine gute allgemeine Einführung zu OSM gibts z.B. hier:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Osm-tutorial.pdf

Solltest du Fragen haben oder Hilfe benötigen, dann kannst du dich gerne bei mir oder im Forum melden:
https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/communities/de/56

Für eine Qualitätssicherung, an der sich alle Mapper in der Gegend beteiligen können - bitte antworte - wenn notwendig - immer hier im Änderungssatz mit der Kommentarfunktion.

Viel Spaß beim Mappen wünscht
tux67
BR_pebble (2024-07-18 08:13:43+00:00): Hello Yashraj Shelke
Thank you for mapping!
I have added missing buildings 19.8772516, 75.3592419;
19.876115, 75.3592774;
19.8774535, 75.3602184;
19.8776962, 75.3601623;
Please inspect your task carefully before closing.
Happy Mapping!
silversurfer83 (2024-05-24 06:39:32+00:00): danke :)
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silversurfer83 (2024-05-24 06:40:24+00:00): oh je. Gut, dass du ein Auge drauf hast.
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Jorisbo (2024-05-24 10:38:18+00:00): Gerne gemacht, grusse Joris
Quaternion (2024-05-23 12:05:00+00:00): Bei schwierigen Fällen gerne hier nachschlagen oder nachfragen: https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/communities/de/56

Anstatt dieselbe Geometrie doppelt zu erfassen, wäre es hier ratsam, die Parkbuchten als Eigenschaft der bereits vorhanden Straßenlinie zu erfassen. Also sozusagen:
parking:left=street_side + parking:left:capacity=6

In diesem Fall ergänzt um junction=circular und ggf. oneway=yes.

Siehe: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Tag:parking%3Dstreet_side
mueschel (2024-05-24 17:28:09+00:00): Hi,
you added strange 'mv' tags across the world. Please check and fix.
pachpora (2024-05-28 16:47:37+00:00): Hi,
Thank you for reviewing the changeset and highlighting the incorrect edit made by our editor, we use MV=No tag as a part of our internal SOP's and by mistake it has been added to the public osm. We have provided feedback to the editor and reverted all the incorrect changes made by editor, thank you for the support. 
Regards,
pachpora
SoT Kris (2024-05-24 18:24:04+00:00): Can you please help me add my business to this location? SonsofThunder Tire and Auto, LLC. All my competitors have their business' ;however, I'm still unlisted...
michael60634 (2024-05-25 03:28:43+00:00): Hello, this appears to be a residential garage.
aseidel (2024-05-23 11:18:41+00:00): Liebe Greta,
kannst Du bitte den hw=footway (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1095300976) auf hw=path ändern? Der Weg ist nicht als Nur-Gehweg beschildert, da passt path besser. Zusätzlich bitte noch traffic_sign=no. 
Danke! 
Herzlich
Antje Seidel
#LGMaps
adiatmad (2024-06-04 14:37:27+00:00): Hey Brazil Singh, I'm interested to learn more about the purpose behind adding the 'layer=*' tag alongside 'building' in OpenStreetMap. Could you please explain the reasoning behind it? Thanks

(https://pewu.github.io/osm-history/#/way/939770300)
ivanbranco (2024-07-31 22:00:49+00:00): Hi Brazil, just checking in to see if there are any updates on this topic. I noticed there are even some buildings overlapping highways, like in this example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/940222411/history
eggie (2024-05-23 10:28:11+00:00): Dit is wel correct
mvg
eggie
eggie (2024-05-23 10:50:38+00:00): De description = This is also a traffic limiting obstacle, which has impact on the route planned... kun je beter verwijderen.

Mvg
eggie
ErmirK (2024-05-23 12:19:16+00:00): Ok. zal ik doen.
eggie (2024-05-23 10:01:14+00:00): Dag ErmirK. Lijkt me oke. Of de verschillende routers daadwerkelijk strafpunten toekennen is natuurlijk de vraag.
Mvg
eggie
eggie (2024-05-23 10:27:28+00:00): traffic_calming=island hoort niet op een liniair wegdeel.
eggie (2024-05-23 10:30:11+00:00): Je hebt de tagging van de weg verwijderd van OSM. Deze zal niet meer renderen en/of routeren.
Je edits https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=151713276

De decripton =  hoort ook niet thuis in OSM met dit doel. 
mvg
eggie
eggie (2024-05-23 10:38:24+00:00): Reverted by changeset Wijzigingenset #151716546

Dit heb ik even teruggezet, want verwijderen van de highwaytag maakt routering niet meer mogelijk. 

MVG
eggie
NorthCrab_upload (2024-05-23 10:00:33+00:00): Zauważyłem, że Twoja zmiana zawiera adresy wymagające dodatkowej uwagi. Przygotowałem listę obiektów oraz dodatkowe informacje:

Nazwa ulicy nie istnieje w okolicy. Jeśli adres ma nazwę ulicy, upewnij się, że jest ona poprawna. Jeśli nie, usuń addr:street, a nazwę miejscowości przekaż w addr:place.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/390256899

Dokumentacja adresów (po polsku):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pl:Key:addr:*

W razie problemów lub pytań, proszę pisać. Chętnie pomogę.
Pozdrawiam! 🦀
rskedgell (2024-05-23 12:55:56+00:00): Is this an Emergency Rendezvous Point? I don't know if there's an appropriate way to tag this as a seamark or emergency facility, but there may be something in the documentation linked below.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Seamarks/Seamark_Objects
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Emergency_facilities_and_amenities

If not, it could be worth asking in the OSM Community Forum.
https://community.openstreetmap.org/
Srdjan023 (2024-05-28 19:41:03+00:00): Kategorizacija puta ne utiče na to da li je motoput dovoljan je samo znak
Srdjan023 (2024-05-28 19:41:31+00:00): revertovano https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/151960121
Metzor (2024-05-26 08:11:36+00:00): Hi ofissa!

Welcome to OpenStreetMap! Nice to have you here trying to improve the data :-)

Changeset discussions enable us to ask why things were changed or give hints on how to improve the mapping.

Concerning this changeset, I wonder what's the basis of your change. Have you seen any "Zeichen 254" that explicitly forbids cycling? That's how it looks like:
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Zeichen_254.svg

Or did you set "no bikes allowed" because the road seems too buisy for you to safely bike there?

Remember that we map the legal access restrictions, see:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access
"Access values pre-eminently describe legal permissions/restrictions and should follow ground truth, such as signage or legal ruling, and not involve guesswork. It does not describe common or typical use, even if the signage is generally ignored."
Furthermore and if I remember right, there is no signs near that road that forbid walking or horseriding. Mapillary supports that:
https://mapillary.com/map/im/791660909456802

Note that (in contrast to USA?), in Germany, you are allowed to walk on the road even if there is no sidewalk.
For tagging if there is sidewalks or not, please refer to this wiki page:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:sidewalk

Might it be that the intentions of several of your changesets would rather be correctly mapped with "use_sidepath"?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Duse_sidepath

Lokking forward to your feedback.

Happy mapping!
Metzor
offissa (2024-05-26 11:48:43+00:00): On the west side of the L 384 is a mandatory foot path (Zeichen 239 & Zusatzzeichen 1022-10). The L 384 itself is marked with Zeichen 259 & Zeichen 254 (which can both be seen on Mapillary). There is no sidepath/sidewalk here. These signs are missing on the south side of this part of the L 384 (entering via the onramp from Auchtertstraße), but I assume this street is is simply not meant to be used by pedestrians or bikes in both directions. I already contacted the local admistration about this problem.
Metzor (2024-05-26 12:29:13+00:00): Ah sorry, I know the road only coming from the western side and Auchtertstraßen side. There seems indeed the sign missing. Thanks for the quick reply and contacting the administration.

I found the mapillary pics, e.g. https://mapillary.com/map/im/157136886348764

Just out of curiosity: How did you derive the horse=no (I have no clue about horsetagging).

Best regards
Metzor
offissa (2024-05-26 18:35:53+00:00): I just assumed a routing app for horse riders should also not suggest this road. I realize this way of thinking is wrong. My bad.
miluethi (2024-05-25 13:24:06+00:00): Shruti,
You added a lot of buildings which are far too big or have triangle size or simply do not exist on sat imagery.
I'm going to delete all of them.

Please square out building shapes in the future by pressing the "Q" key. 
Don't add building which don't exist.
miluethi (2024-05-27 15:03:02+00:00): Anahita,

Stop adding this crazy shapes. This is VANDALISM!!!
pitscheplatsch (2024-05-23 11:00:02+00:00): Welcome to OSM.

Please do not add hashtags for naming elements.
miluethi (2024-05-25 13:44:11+00:00): I'm deleting this building, there is no sat imagery proofing it.
eggie (2024-05-23 10:33:28+00:00): Dag Coen.. Het is beter om een van de bestaande adresnodes te gebruiken. Ik heb deze met je info samengevoegd.
MVG
eggie
pitscheplatsch (2024-05-23 11:01:09+00:00): Welcome to OSM.

Building "1" and "2" ?
pitscheplatsch (2024-05-23 11:02:05+00:00): Welcome to OSM.

Well, that looks strange.
Why did you name your buildings?
user_20909876 (2024-06-17 07:59:46+00:00): На этом участке есть и велосипедная, и пешеходная дорожка. Но физически это одна асфальтированная дорога, которая разделена лишь разметкой.

Согласно вики, в таком случае рекомендуется наносить одну линию, размечая ее соответствующим образом (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:%D0%92%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4, см пример S5).

Тут на карте уже есть линия пешеходной дорожки, которая размечена соотв.образом.

Поэтому считаю, что отдельная линия для велосипедной дороги не нужна. Как минимум, это касается участка в районе 50 лет октября 70.
pesec (2024-06-17 08:35:19+00:00): Принято.
◪ Jarv (2024-05-24 11:05:38+00:00): Hi Pawelaa,
I've been through here recently and the A96 is not a dual carriageway. I edited this road, and some others in the area to a single carriageway. Wondering why you have edited it back to a dual carriageway?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dual_carriageway
◪ Jarv (2024-05-28 17:40:58+00:00): Hiya, could I get a response to my comment. cheers
◪ Jarv (2024-06-06 13:17:37+00:00): Hiya, could I get a response in the coming days please
eggie (2024-05-23 10:34:28+00:00): Dag Coen,

Lijkt me oke.

MVG
eggie
skippermichael (2024-05-23 10:36:31+00:00): Can somebody review this edit please.

I'm not sure whether the Powder Inn has closed, as it used to be in the base station of the Mt Perisher Double Chair. Can somebody check?
miluethi (2024-05-23 17:29:50+00:00): Kebabyakir1,
I deleted your work. The building shape are not accurate at all. Please don't contribute to OSM if you don't care about the quality!
Vinber-Pro (2024-06-07 10:23:41+00:00): Bonjour,
je pense que ceux sont plutôt des containers que des centres que tu as ajouté non ?

j'ai mis en container, qui correspondent davantage il me semble https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:recycling_type%3Dcontainer

bonne carto
Papoune69 (2024-06-07 16:50:29+00:00): Bonjour,
oui effectivement. Désolé, mais je débute.
Merci bien
Vinber-Pro (2024-06-08 07:03:56+00:00): Bonjour,
pas de soucis, on a le droit à l'erreur et d'apprendre, heureusement !

Merci d'avoir répondu, c'est bien plus important qu'une erreur d'attributs !

ne pas hésitez si tu as des questions !

le forum est un chouette espace pour échanger également forum.openstreetmap.fr

à plus
pitscheplatsch (2024-05-23 11:04:06+00:00): Willkommen bei OSM.

Das Gebäude einen Namen in Form von einer Nummer haben, sieht seltsam aus. Ist vlt. damit eine Hausnummer gemeint?
T_SW (2024-05-23 11:25:46+00:00): Hallo, bei BI sind alle Gebäude mit einer Gebäude-Nummer benannt. Also keine Hausnummer.
user_8655426 (2024-05-24 09:35:33+00:00): こんにちは。OpenStreetMap (OSM) へようこそ。
OSM は現実の世界に存在する地物をマッピングし、正確で最新の地図をつくっていくプロジェクトです。(real and current) また、OSMの地図データはゲームだけでなく、さまざまなアプリやウェブサイトなどで使用されています。

OSMに架空の地物を追加したり、既存のデータを実際とは異なるものに変更したりしないでください。よろしくお願いします。(事実と異なる不正な編集を行ったユーザーは、ブロックされる可能性があります。)

・「ようこそ！」
https://www.openstreetmap.org/welcome

・JA:破壊行為
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:破壊行為

・新規マッパーに、コミュニティメンバーからお願いしたいこと
https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2018/06/12/tips-pokemon-go-2/?lang=ja

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・JA:初心者ガイド
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:初心者ガイド

・learnOSM (ビギナーズガイド)
https://learnosm.org/ja/beginner/

・JA:Map Features (地物)
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JA:Map_Features
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user_8655426 (2024-05-24 09:48:56+00:00): Reverted.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/151760096
Mateusz Konieczny (2024-10-14 15:15:05+00:00): Are you sure that https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1224557094 is a separate cycleway rather than a cycleway lane?
YuliyaShustava_lyft (2024-10-15 08:55:17+00:00): Hi, Mateusz Konieczny
My name is Yulya, and I’m a Quality Control lead on the OSM team at Lyft.
Unfortunately, we are unable to assist you with this matter. Only a missing service road was added in our changeset (https://osmcha.org/changesets/151717293). According to the PeWu (https://pewu.github.io/osm-history/#/way/1224557094), the cycleway tag was introduced by another mapper in this changeset (https://osmcha.org/changesets/144107548). I believe it would be better to clarify the tag application there.

Best regards, Yulya
Mateusz Konieczny (2024-10-15 11:06:13+00:00): I am sorry for misdirected question! I should have checked https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=151717293
YuliyaShustava_lyft (2024-10-16 08:16:17+00:00): no worries at all :)
ika-chan! (2024-06-24 04:35:07+00:00): Changeset was reverted due to inappropriate use of classification. Those service roads are not secondary.
eggie (2024-05-23 12:46:18+00:00): Welkom bij OpenStreetMap. Ik heb een uitgebreid welkomstbericht met wat handige tips en links gestuurd als privebericht. 

MVG, 

Eggie 

Namens de OSM Community
NeisBot (2024-05-23 11:10:03+00:00): Hi nuciklo, welcome to OSM!

Thank you for your contribution to the map. I've reviewed your recent edits regarding the addition of a beach and noticed a few inconsistencies with the surrounding environment features. It appears that the location you've labeled as a beach does not match typical geographical characteristics I would expect for such a feature.

Your beach feature:
https://osm.org/node/11928100341

Could you please clarify:
- The source about this beach
- Any additional context about this location that might explain the unusual designation.

Looking forward to your response!

#BeachCheck
naturmaper (2024-05-23 11:16:55+00:00): Practically is one of the most famous beaches in Chalkidiki area cause of the hippy nudist long history, but also very nice and clean sandy waters like a water pool.

But the beach part actually is as series of tiny coves of sand. between rock parts.

you can check the satellite view from here.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/rievLTVvqXj23yk56
pitscheplatsch (2024-05-23 11:19:16+00:00): Thanks for your answer!

#HappyMapping
literan (2024-05-23 17:26:14+00:00): это не название ломбарда, а текст с вывески. Не надо его подставлять в тег name
qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq (2024-06-12 18:08:40+00:00): Hi, please check what the tags mean before adding them
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building=terrace

It's not a building if there are no walls and no roof.
ToprakM (2024-06-05 20:38:57+00:00): Merhaba, katkılarınız için teşekkürler. OpenStreetMap'te yalnızca mevcut olan yapıları eklediğimiz için bazı değişikliklerinizi geri aldım. Bilginize.
mcliquid (2024-05-23 11:24:19+00:00): Hi and thank you for your contribution!

Please note for the future: changesets should be local.

To avoid conflicts and as a courtesy to reviewers, it is recommended to:
• combine changes in a small geographical area (within a city, district or province)
• keep changes within the same country
• upload/save changes before moving on to map in a different area

Why? Have a look at the section
"Geographical size of changesets" on this wiki page:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Changeset#Geographical_size_of_changesets

Thanks for considering, have a nice day and happy mapping!
mcliquid (2024-05-23 11:35:46+00:00): Wouldn't it have been better to switch to building=residential at this point?
mcliquid (2024-06-25 12:43:59+00:00): Still no answer :(
mariotomo (2024-05-23 12:58:13+00:00): grazie! ciao.
aceman444 (2025-05-07 14:15:36+00:00): Dakujem, ale verejna zelen neznamena automaticky landuse=village_green (jedine ze by toto bola ta jedina spravna centralna zelen v tejto obci). Tiez nazov parkoviska urcite nie je "Vyhradene pre SYNLAB", to treba dat do znaciek 'operator' a 'access' (napr. ci je to pre zakaznikov (customers), alebo zamestnancov (private)).
halloschorle (2024-05-23 12:08:32+00:00): Hi Tom,

Why has the Changeset have to be so big? Did something wrong or mistake? 

Normally Changesets should be local.
mcliquid (2024-05-23 13:23:05+00:00): And wouldn't it have been better to switch to building=residential at this point?
bxl-forever (2024-05-23 13:40:37+00:00): Hello,
It looks like you are merely reproducing the same set of huge mechanical edits over large territories which resulted in a user ban in the past, see here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/132186175
halloschorle (2024-05-23 14:20:46+00:00): Is there any way to stop edits like these?
silversurfer83 (2024-05-24 06:45:03+00:00): @bxl-forever: if you are sure about this, there should be a mail to the DWG about this.

@Tom since you are doing this all over the world: Where did you talk about this before you started?
mcliquid (2024-06-25 12:43:50+00:00): Still no answer :(
silversurfer83 (2024-06-25 13:12:49+00:00): Has anyone tried a direct message?
YomanNH (2024-05-23 11:42:29+00:00): Cześć, budynek sądu zniknął z mapy...
ElectroDriver (2024-05-23 11:44:49+00:00): dzięki za uwagę, zaraz naprawię
ElectroDriver (2024-05-23 11:47:46+00:00): budynek jest widoczny. będę nad nim jeszcze pracował
YomanNH (2024-05-23 11:53:13+00:00): Dzięki za poprawkę!
InsertUser (2024-05-29 15:46:07+00:00): These seem like they were almost certainly meant to be `building=house` rather than `home`. Why have you diluted the information to `=yes`?
halloschorle (2024-05-23 12:08:52+00:00): Hi,

Why has the Changeset have to be so big? Did something wrong or mistake? 

Normally Changesets should be local.
h0rr0rrdrag0n (2024-05-23 19:20:33+00:00): Too big to check :-(. My saved filter was triggered because marked area from my filter is inside this changeset. But when I check that area by hand — no changes was found.
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            Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/151718740
silversurfer83 (2024-05-24 06:56:48+00:00): Hallo everyone :)

to ef835f90: what the other two are referring to is the size of the bounding box your changeset produced because you changed something in Algeria and something in the polar regions of Russia in this edit. This is something you shouldn't do if it isn't really necessary. Here's the explanation:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Changeset#Geographical_size_of_changesets

To halloschorle and h0rr0rdrag0n:
here's another tool to review this kind of edit: https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-change-viz?c=151718740#4/21.41/1.19
Also maybe make a bookmark of the wikipage I linked to above so you can kindly point newbies toward these guidelines. I can relate to your feelings about large bboxes. They can happen by mistake. 

happy mapping everyone :)
ef835f90 (2024-05-24 08:16:07+00:00): Hello everyone

I'm so sorry about that! I've just recently discovered this and I was trying new stuff and checking new areas. I didn't notice the disconnect. Will keep better hygiene going forward!
h0rr0rrdrag0n (2024-05-27 08:32:31+00:00): to silversurfer83:
Thank you for the useful links :)
ftrebien (2025-03-09 03:25:48+00:00): Tem uma placa de 30 km/h na Oscar Mendes.
halloschorle (2024-05-23 12:08:59+00:00): Hi,

Why has the Changeset have to be so big? Did something wrong or mistake? 

Normally Changesets should be local.
h0rr0rrdrag0n (2024-05-23 19:21:32+00:00): Too big to check :-(. My saved filter was triggered because marked area from my filter is inside this changeset. But when I check that area by hand — no changes was found.
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Edison Wen (2024-06-29 08:16:25+00:00): 當初把山峰和測量點分開是有原因的
因為測量點不一定在山頂
如果我有尋到，我會全部改回
有問題可以聯繫我
謝謝您
也請不要再做同樣的更改

另外有關大崗山及壽山的小百岳認證
如果用成旅遊景點，魯地圖顯示會出問題
且該處確實為高點
Innertia (2024-07-01 11:41:41+00:00): 等等，這我確定你一定有什麼誤會，因為我做的改動絕大多數都是在把原本黏在一起的山頂與基點分開，所以是相反的 XD

大崗山&壽山，確實是我沒考慮到可能小百岳的顯示會出問題。大崗山你改回去原來那樣，我覺得沒問題。壽山嘛... 我會有點小意見，因為上面還有一層可以爬上去，那是否應該標在上面，這又牽涉到這兩天在魯地圖社團討論的議題...  anyway 至少最近我不會再去改它 XD
Innertia (2024-07-01 11:48:42+00:00): 如果真的有經我改動而黏在一起的山頂與基點，那應該是因為山頂在1/5000基本地形圖上座標就在那裏。而我原則上不會去動基點位置，除非在 https://track.nlsc.gov.tw/CORS/Portal/map.aspx 裏查得到。

還有一種可能是我真的動了山頂和基點把它們搬到很靠近的位置，那應該就是在基本地形圖裏面它們真的就在很靠近甚至同一位置。
Edison Wen (2024-07-01 12:45:31+00:00): 抱歉，所以您沒有在基點的name標籤加上山名嗎?
以前都沒有這一兩個禮拜，突然多了很多。
Edison Wen (2024-07-01 12:46:14+00:00): 關於壽山，我認為唯一可當作理由的
是最高點是管制區
Innertia (2024-07-01 13:42:13+00:00): 喔，你指的是那個。那就是我之前在另一個變更集討論裏跟你說的，是一時權宜之計，理由在上次那段落落長說明裏有講，重述一次：當我把一個原本在基點附近的山頂用 was: 註解掉 -- 理由是我認為該點並不是 natural=peak (因為絕大部份我沒去過現場，根據就是國土測繪中心地形圖以及網路上找山友探訪記錄) -- 那在魯地圖中，原本在該位置的 peak 會消失，只剩下基點，而在魯地圖中只會顯示基點的name，也就是 類型+編號。這樣一來我覺得會有很多用原本(我認為是錯誤的)的 peak name 來認基石的山友會找不到基石，所以我才會在基點的name後面接上點位名 -- 嚴格來說我不是加上原本 peak 的 name，而是加上在基點 ref 裏面的那個點位名
Innertia (2024-07-01 17:47:16+00:00): 重新思考後，我覺得好像知道我們兩個想法差異在哪了... 如果猜錯了請見諒 XD

我猜，對你來說，基點和山頂成對出現是標準情況，所以你期待看到的是基點附近也有個山頭，兩個點位應該分開表示，而當你看到有基點旁邊的山頭被我拿掉，且我又修改了基點的name，你會認為我的意圖是要把基點與山頭兩個點位合併。

然而我的意圖實際上是... 其實已經寫在變更集註解上了：「山頂位置與高度更新、調整(根據NLSC)，基點相關調整」
也就是說，我的目的是根據NLSC的圖資來檢查 natural=peak 的點，判斷它的位置與高度資訊是否能更新，以及該位置是否符合 natural=peak 的相對高點定義。如果不符合，我會考慮把它移動到周圍區域更適當的高點，而當覺得附近沒有適當的高點時，我會考慮把它拿掉(註解掉)。所以你看到覺得我是在做合併動作的位置，實際上是我判定 peak 不該在那裏而把它拿掉。拿掉之後去改旁邊基點name 的用意如之前所述則是一種權宜性的救濟方案，
Edison Wen (2024-07-02 03:03:42+00:00): 魯地圖的確大家會有問題
可是在後面加上點名不符合目前共識
我這幾天已經改了至少30處
可以提出來討論，但先不要改
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