piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
emersonveenstra (2024-08-11 12:27:00+00:00): Hi there,

When you create driveways like https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1306914820, you should always connect them to the road. The editor warned you of this when you want to save your changeset, please pay attention to those warnings in the future!
Scottku (2024-08-13 20:40:13+00:00): Fixed. Thanks for the note.
NorthCrab_upload (2024-08-10 20:00:16+00:00): 🗺️ Witaj na OpenStreetMap!

Zauważyłem, że Twoja zmiana zawiera adresy wymagające dodatkowej uwagi. Przygotowałem listę obiektów oraz dodatkowe informacje:

Nazwa ulicy nie istnieje w okolicy. Jeśli adres ma nazwę ulicy, upewnij się, że jest ona poprawna. Jeśli nie, usuń addr:street, a nazwę miejscowości przekaż w addr:place.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/12103149957

Dokumentacja adresów (po polsku):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pl:Key:addr:*

W razie problemów lub pytań, proszę pisać. Chętnie pomogę.
Pozdrawiam! 🦀
Dawid2849 (2024-08-11 23:41:45+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/155100572
Fizzie-DWG (2024-08-11 06:39:26+00:00): I really doubt that the harbour is actually classified as a water hazard! Would you please change that back again? Thanks
Spaghetti Monster🍝 (2024-08-15 04:15:59+00:00): highway=pedestrian isn't inherently an area so you can't just mass remove the area tag.
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Spaghetti Monster🍝 (2024-08-15 04:18:12+00:00): Partially reverted in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/155265717
CartoKees (2024-08-16 08:24:19+00:00): Dear Spaghetti Monster🍝

Thank you for noticing and correcting my accidential mistakes. I use the website https://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/ to look at map isues and tag issues. This is by category. Just because I look at things by category and combine similar edits in one changeset makes it a mass removal. This are just similar edits within a larger area. I was in the understanding that an area doesn't need the tag area=yes. I learned that it's possible. IMHO this ain't bad mapping. It's mapping together and making mistakes and helping each other to make it better.

CartoKees
Spaghetti Monster🍝 (2024-08-16 08:31:06+00:00): I was looking for the specific osmose issue that proposes to remove area=yes from highway=pedestrian ways but I couldn't find it. Can you link it?
CartoKees (2024-08-16 11:16:42+00:00): I started with this link https://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/issues/open?country=&item=9010&source=&class=9010001&username=&bbox=
But I don't see it right away. I think I filtered on area=yes in JOSM to check if i missed something
Spaghetti Monster🍝 (2024-08-16 11:45:32+00:00): I personally prefer https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:area:highway but its not properly supported yet and there are some who swear by the area=yes tagging so I wouldn't mess with it usually.
SomeoneElse (2024-08-15 11:32:22+00:00): Hello,
I'm adding this comment to each of https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/155077463 , https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/155077906 , https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/155077446 , https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/155077894 .  

Accusing each other of vandalism and reverting changes without discussion won't get us anywhere.  Please discuss these changes on the forum together.  Tags already exist there for https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/armenia and https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/azerbaijan .

Best Regards,

Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group
SomeoneElse (2024-08-15 11:31:52+00:00): Hello,
I'm adding this comment to each of https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/155077463 , https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/155077906 , https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/155077446 , https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/155077894 .  

Accusing each other of vandalism and reverting changes without discussion won't get us anywhere.  Please discuss these changes on the forum together.  Tags already exist there for https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/armenia and https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/azerbaijan .

Best Regards,

Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group
ZeLonewolf (2024-08-31 01:00:24+00:00): I've restored this back to a motorway_link.  Even though it looks a little awkward, it's an accurate description of reality - this is a ramp from JT Connell to the expressway.
SomeoneElse (2024-08-15 11:32:37+00:00): Hello,
I'm adding this comment to each of https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/155077463 , https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/155077906 , https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/155077446 , https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/155077894 .  

Accusing each other of vandalism and reverting changes without discussion won't get us anywhere.  Please discuss these changes on the forum together.  Tags already exist there for https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/armenia and https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/azerbaijan .

Best Regards,

Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group
SomeoneElse (2024-08-15 11:32:07+00:00): Hello,
I'm adding this comment to each of https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/155077463 , https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/155077906 , https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/155077446 , https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/155077894 .  

Accusing each other of vandalism and reverting changes without discussion won't get us anywhere.  Please discuss these changes on the forum together.  Tags already exist there for https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/armenia and https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/azerbaijan .

Best Regards,

Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group
maro21 (2024-08-11 11:51:36+00:00): Kody pocztowe nie zostały jeszcze ustanowione dla tej ulicy, a w podanym przez ciebie źródle jest "kod pocztowy: 00-000".
Mirosław Żylewicz (2024-08-12 19:56:21+00:00): To prawda, że kody pocztowe nie zostały jeszcze ustalone ale sprawdziłem wszystkie adresy w okolicy i jestem prawie pewny, że i tam będą takie same.

Zobacz mapkę:
https://k20.targeo.pl/i/cache/static/kod-pocztowy-top/kod-pocztowy-51-180.png
Strubbl (2024-08-13 22:18:43+00:00): Guter Hinweis mit erst Lagegenauigkeit prüfen! Wenn man die Daten direkt mit der App einträgt ist das sonst zuhause wieder vergessen.
Mammi71 (2024-08-13 22:30:49+00:00): genau deshalb
troysalt (2024-08-11 20:39:13+00:00): Hello, I originally mapped this cycling infrastructure here, I live right by here and mostly update SLC walking/biking infrastructure. The way this is now mapped is improper use of a cycleway mapped separately - that's used for physically separated cycleways, while painted lanes have the cycleway=lane tag added to the road. Renderers (CyclOSM, OSMAnd, and openstreetmap.org) now show these lanes as a physically separated lane when it's not. It's also inconsistent with the rest of Salt Lake City. Please see the OSM wiki for more, thanks! https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:cycleway%3Dlane
TheConductor (2024-08-11 23:11:05+00:00): Good afternoon. I also work near 200 South and use these new and improved ways daily to commute. That said, I regularly reference the wiki but I missed the text at the beginning detailing what you explained above. The tagging schema for cycleways has been updated since I last worked with cycleways. Cheers!
tyfi (2024-08-10 21:12:33+00:00): Note #4376852
HellMap (2024-08-11 09:18:52+00:00): Hi!

Could you please clarify what you mean to map with this gate https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1306927628 ? The geometry is currently  overlapping the road and forming a weird shape.

Thanks
flohoff (2024-08-11 09:18:29+00:00): Auch hier negative Routingänderung - Da gehts auch nicht über die Kreisstraßen sondern irgendwelche Feldwege:

https://osm.zz.de/routeqa/?rid=582248,815202#52.01896,7.98697,14z
flohoff (2024-08-11 09:20:04+00:00): Wie ist das denn hier beschilder das da ein access=private drauf ist?

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/339634543
flohoff (2024-08-11 09:20:45+00:00): Hier auch

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/865208400
flohoff (2024-08-11 09:21:10+00:00): Ebenso hier:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1044449660
flohoff (2024-08-11 09:21:40+00:00): 
Ich habe das gefühl das du das hier nach Gusto einfach verteilst - was mich dazu bringt solche changesets demnächst einfach komplett zu reverten weil ich die großflächig für geraten halte.
KarttaMursu (2024-08-10 22:35:56+00:00): Hello Fuuga!

The path you removed seems to appear on aerial imagery and on MML background maps. Rather than deleting the path, the access should be set to private. This should prevent routing from using the road while allowing it to exist on the map.
Fuuga (2024-08-12 10:24:06+00:00): Hi @karttamursu, I understand your comment, however, there's nothing to be routed because the path drwn behind the area doesn't even exist.
thebrad1111 (2024-08-10 21:42:47+00:00): Title meant to be public rights of way references added
thebrad1111 (2024-08-10 21:43:38+00:00): or well mostly the prow_refs in and around the Hasland area.
Spaghetti Monster🍝 (2024-08-15 04:09:10+00:00): You removed it from the area relation and added the track tag.
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Spaghetti Monster🍝 (2024-08-15 04:11:10+00:00): https://osmcha.org/changesets/154992266
Jrachi (2024-10-26 08:46:47+00:00): Ciao.
È piuttosto strano il ref che hai inserito.
Dovrebbe essere la sigla per individuarlo e che si trova lungo il percorso
silversurfer83 (2024-08-11 00:20:39+00:00): Moin Riker,

sicher, dass hier über den Damm keinerlei Einschränkungen durch Verkehrszeichen herrschen?

Grüße
silversurfer83
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Riker360 (2024-08-11 09:14:22+00:00): Moin. Ich kam wandernd aus östlicher Richtung, habe da aufgrund des unterbundenen Routings auf Verbote geachtet und keine gesehen. Nach meiner Pause am westlichen Ende des Damms habe ich leider nicht weiter gesucht. Auf einem aktuell erscheinenden aber undatierten Foto, das ich gerade bei einem Dienst angeschaut habe, konnte ich dort ein Verkehrsschild Zeichen 357-50 (Durchlässige Sackgasse für Fußgänger und Radverkehr), ausmachen. Das dürfte kein Verbot etwa für Kfz darstellen.

Hast du eigene Erkenntnisse oder siehst das anders, ändere die Eigenschaften gerne ab.
silversurfer83 (2024-08-11 12:04:00+00:00): Danke für die Rückmeldung.

Ich hoffe, die Gegend hat dir gefallen :)

Dann werde ich mal zusehen, dass ich demnächst mal einen Weg nach Helmighausen habe um die Sache zu klären.

Alles Gute
silversurfer83
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Malle_Yeno (2024-08-10 22:23:44+00:00): Just to explain the garden centre point a bit more: It's only open during the warm season -- I am fairly sure they open the area up to drivers during winter. So in some months, that parking aisle is blocked, but in others it isn't.

I don't feel like going one layer above the parking aisle makes sense, because that implies a tunnel or something. But not sure what else to do.
Vinzenz Mai (2024-10-10 19:28:43+00:00): Hallo,

bitte für die Siedlungsfläche keinen Namen verwenden. Dieser ist bereits im Place-Node https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3075911150 enthalten.

Danke für Dein Verständnis.
Vinzenz
eggie (2024-08-11 05:01:17+00:00): Dag qcoret..

Lijkt me oke. Het zal er ooit zijn geweest.
MVG
eggie
Dodko (2024-08-11 08:44:05+00:00): škola už existuje https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/13864400 ste ju pridali duplicitne
NorthCrab_upload (2024-08-10 23:00:33+00:00): Zauważyłem, że Twoja zmiana zawiera niepoprawne adresy. Przygotowałem listę obiektów do poprawy oraz dodatkowe informacje:

Duplikat adresu w okolicy.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/12103393262
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2755206566
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/268372539
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/245091251

Pozdrawiam! 🦀
Barroszt (2025-08-04 22:37:33+00:00): poprawione
felipeeugenio (2024-08-11 15:27:41+00:00): Hello.
You are just deleting perfectly shaped paths and replacing them with your geometry. Do you have a case for that? the strava traces are abundant in that zone.
And on top of that, you are adding names like "El Arco <--> Lago Vidal" which seems very descriptive, which is not what we use in OSM.

On a side note, when a path crosses a waterway and there is no bridge, a ford=yes might apply.

Please engage the local community before intervening in the job we did with these types of editions. We will try to fix this without completely reverting it. You added some nice features too.

regards
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felipeeugenio (2024-08-11 15:51:40+00:00): Just a question: you deleted some campings in La Junta. Those don´t exist anymore? or was it a mistake?
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felipeeugenio (2024-08-11 15:53:19+00:00): Sorry. you made them areas instead of nodes. nevermind.
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felipeeugenio (2024-08-11 16:37:20+00:00): Hello. I think my initial comment sounded a bit harsh. I didn't mean to.

We intend to add the mappers that perform these massive editions and are clearly trying to do some good to the map to engage the local community and be a part of our agreements, how we proceed, and what our logics are. just that.
regards.
supsup (2024-08-11 16:48:16+00:00): Hello,
1) on several paths I applied the "simplify path" tool of josm, I think with either 0.5m or 1m parameter. Is that not good practice? They seemed like GPS imports. Sometimes I adjust them by hand based on strava or based on my own GPS recordings. In nature, when you have a lot of strava marks somewhere with no way asssociated to them and nearby  you have a way with no strava marks on it, I usually conclude the way is misplaced (which is usually supported by my own gps recordings), but I correct these things also when I see them nearby to places I walked through. In my understanding, when you originally have a way that originated as a GPS record of a single hiker, it will be imprecise at times.

Which concrete ways do you have in mind?

El Arco <--> Lago Vidal is not from me, that was already there. I was mainly adjusting the sac_scale and trail visibility so that it better fits the wiki standards (but these are sujective, anyway especially around Cochamo the difficulties were by far too hard, indicating using your hands when that is not the case) but I was mostly not changing the names. The only exception that I recall is the Laguna trail in Cochamo - this name was used on a guidepost there.

I know about fords. For some reason iD complains about that but JOSM does not. I tend to add those when it is an actual ford where you need to wade into the water (which depends on season anyway), but when it is a jumping or stepping over thing, I personally think they are a bit superfluous (in ideal world width=1 or something like that would apply to the stream). I do correct JOSM complaining about water and highway not sharing a node.

(where I changed bridge to ford or the opposite, that is because that is what is there in place, or at least was six months ago)

I will check out the plugin and ask you about it if I struggle with it. Might be a nice things, I use only a subset of what JOSM has to offer.

No offense taken, I think it is good you look over the changes.

There is one thing I am worried about this edit myself - JOSM was complaining about the same geometries overlapping each other (mainly wood). I tried to fix that, but I think I changed the way these large landuse polygons are made. They tend to use method A as described here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:multipolygon#Mapping_style,_best_practice
and I was switching them to method B before I realized that was not the best idea.
felipeeugenio (2024-08-11 17:04:59+00:00): Hello. Thanks for your time.

It seems to be in control of what you are doing. I feared just another guy fixing the world to his GPS.

And yes, the gps/strava world is very useful but needs some interpretations. The same with the imagery in steep zones. The pictures sometimes depict geometries very far from the truth.

Your editions were good. The path became way too simplified on some small parts and I fixed them. That, and a couple of other things. 

This zone was fixed by some mappers of the community and took some weeks (me included) not so long ago. What was here before was a very low quality drawing, so we tend to look after changes in the region.

If you know the paths and state the existence of bridges and campings and whatever, nobody will refute that. We trust that kind of changes.

regards
woahcoolmaps (2024-08-10 23:38:25+00:00): I forgot I added water
mcliquid (2024-08-12 16:05:35+00:00): Diese Änderungen wurden vollständig rückgängig gemacht. Die Basis dafür ist:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Austria/Schnellstra%C3%9Fen

Das "Problem" der S16 ist, dass sie (außerhalb der Tunnel) keinen einheitlichen Querschnitt hat. Es gibt zwar (aber sehr selten) Abschnitte, die einen "Autobahnquerschnitt" haben, d.h. breite 4-spurige Fahrbahnen, Pannenstreifen und Tempo 130, aber in Summe überwiegen jene Abschnitte die das nicht haben. Entweder nur 3 Spuren oder 4 Spuren mit sehr schmalen Fahrstreifen. In den Tunnels ist natürlich nichts von den Parameter vorhanden. Geschwindigkeit ist sowieso fast überall nur 100 oder weniger. Und nicht zuletzt ist die gesamte S16 nicht als "Autobahn", sondern nur als sondern nur als "Autostraße" qualifiziert.

Insgesamt überwiegen also deutlich die Parameter, die die S16 aus OSM-Sicht zu einer Trunk und nicht zu einem Motorway machen.

Und wichtig: Da man Straßen in der Regel einheitlich bezeichnet, hat man sich für "trunk" entschieden. Niemand ändert eine Ex-Bundesstraße innerhalb einer Stadt von primär zu sekundär/tertiär nur weil man dort schmaler/langsamer fahren kann.

Ein Gegenbeispiel zur S16 ist die S35, die auch "nur" eine Autostraße ist, die aber überall breit inkl. Pannenstreifen ist und meist 130 km/h erlaubt.

Siehe auch: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/highway-trunk-in-osterreich/87751

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/155156847
hlfan (2024-09-19 16:56:11+00:00): Die selben Gründe gelten ja auch für die CS 155081586, 155081667 und 155081782. Revertierst du nur in Vorarlberg @mcliquid?
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mcliquid (2024-09-19 18:29:16+00:00): @hlfan Ja, ganz Österreich kann ich leider nicht leisten zu beobachten.
hlfan (2024-09-24 18:07:56+00:00): Und ich nehme an, dass vorletzten Sonntag dein Galaxy S22 zu beschäftigt war um dir die Änderungen zu zeigen, weil es für Mapillary aufnehmen durfte. Jetzt war das bis zum Revert-CS 157050404 halt bissl länger in OSM. Ich hab die Wegteilung vorm Gondebachtunnel mal gelassen, für den Fall dass die nach dem Lötztunnelausbau als motorway-Ende infrage kommen könnte.
mcliquid (2024-09-27 13:21:22+00:00): Was war vorletzten Sonntag?
hlfan (2024-09-27 19:35:38+00:00): Datensammlung im Namen deines Accounts https://mapillary.com/map/im/376961815464768
LockOnGuy (2024-08-11 00:40:16+00:00): Hello $mapper,   
Please do use meaningful changeset comments - “(no comment)” does not help other mappers understand what you are doing.   
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_changeset_comments
felipeeugenio (2024-08-11 16:03:46+00:00): Hello. Since you are using JOSM, please add to your tools the fast Draw plug-in (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/FastDraw)
You can join the Chilean community via Telegram (https://t.me/OSMcl) and I can teach you how to set it up.
it has a small learning curve and you will never draw a lake or a long path without it anymore.
regards.
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mf8s003j (2024-08-20 13:45:41+00:00): Hi JiahuiY! It looks like you moved Plessis Road about 10 metres west of where it was. However, it doesn't seem like that matches with GPS traces. 

I want to confirm with you: when you move highways, do you align your background images with GPS traces first? Bing Maps in particular are not usually accurately positioned, at least around the Winnipeg area.
flohoff (2024-08-11 09:13:44+00:00): Hier auch so eine Routingänderung:

Verkehr läuft jetzt über die Felder und nicht auf den Höherklassigen Straßen:

https://osm.zz.de/routeqa/?rid=815095,815215#51.99595,7.94548,15z
flohoff (2024-08-11 09:17:04+00:00): Moin,
warum hast diverse Hauszufahrten mit access=private getagged?

Wie ist das denn beschildert? Das wäre wichtig den extakten Wortlaut des Schildes als note zu hinterlassen damit das ersichtlich ist. 

Grundsätzlcih werden service/drivways gar nicht weiter getagged wenn nicht ein explizites Betretungsverbot durch Tor/Kette oder Schild bekundet wird.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/515071410
flohoff (2024-08-11 09:34:47+00:00): Hier,
das ist eine living_street - also verkehrsberuhigt - Du hast da ein maxspeed=30 hinterher getagged. Das ist natürlich total geraten und unsinn:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/42002178
geisthugo123 (2024-08-11 14:48:34+00:00): Wäre nicht permissive das passende Tagging für private Hauszufahrten.
Das mit dem expliziten Betretungsverbot verstehe ich, aber ist ein access auf yes sinnvoll wenn dadurch Routen über Privatgrundstücke gelegt werden
zb hier
https://routing.openstreetmap.de/?z=18&center=52.003411%2C7.961226&loc=52.002258%2C7.960888&loc=52.004510%2C7.959900&hl=en&alt=0&srv=1
eggie (2024-08-11 04:51:57+00:00): Welkom bij OpenStreetMap. Ik heb een uitgebreid welkomstbericht met wat handige tips en links gestuurd als privebericht.
Feedback  Goed om te weten dat je niet name=  gaat gebruiken om zaken te beschrijven.
name=Zitbank hoort niet op de kaart.. net als we niet name=huis, name=gras enz. gebruiken. Ik pas het weer aan. 
MVG,
Eggie
Namens de OSM Community
tyfi (2024-08-11 01:22:42+00:00): This only impacts the westbound travelway of I-72 which previously terminated at the exit ramp. Signage on the ground and open govt. data both suggested otherwise. I added a few more ways to the relation and updated the ref tag on those ways to carry I-72 a little further west on the westbound lanes.
aceman444 (2025-03-22 20:56:49+00:00): Zdravim, tie hole skaly ako
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1306958914 na Ortofoto nie su vobec vidiet, uz su zarastene lesom.
macdale (2025-03-25 16:04:37+00:00): Ano nie su, prekryva ich les. Je to tak zakreslene aj na mape. 

Na OSM ich sice vykresluje ako keby boli hole, ale prekryva ich raster ikoniek lesa, takze z tohto mozno odcitat, ze su prekryte lesom. To ze ich takto na mape vidno je sposobom zobrazenia OSM.

Alebo ste chcel reagovat na nieco ine?
aceman444 (2025-04-06 15:26:39+00:00): No chcel som tym povedat, ze ak je tam uz les, asi to nie su hole skaly podla OSM wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural=bare%20rock .
macdale (2025-04-06 16:12:09+00:00): Ok a ako by ste ich oznacil/otagoval v tomto pripade vy? Rad by som ich vyznacil ako  plochu a nie ako len liniu/zlom/utes.
aceman444 (2025-04-19 10:55:50+00:00): Chapem, ze su tam nejake skaly/utesy, ale tie su skor vertikalne objekty, tak sa znacia len ciarou na ich hrane.
bare_rock sa mi javi, ze ma byt horizontalna plocha, kde nie je ziadny porast. Zial na snimkach 2017 az 2023 ziadne hole skaly nie su vidiet. Ale snimky mozu byt skreslene a stromy su fotene sikmo, mozu prekryvat tie hole oblasti. Ale existuju naozaj? Ake su siroke? Nemate nejaku fotku prikladu, kde je skalnata plocha vodorovne na zemi, ci dne tych lomov? bare_rock davame napr. na stitoch vo Vysokych Tatrach kde naozaj ziadny porast nie je, len hola skala (kde nie je sut, cize scree).
217541OSM (2024-08-11 21:28:52+00:00): Bravo. Given the current state of the economy, I know creating a new restaurant is not easy. I wish you well in your new business endeavors.