piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
MassCartog (2025-12-29 20:50:44+00:00): Hello, welcome to OSM. The feature you removed in this changeset is valid. Please don’t remove valid OSM data.

You have a new account and might not be aware, on OSM, we do not remove features if they exist on the ground. If it exists on the ground, it is valid data regardless of a feature being public or private, designated or informal/illegal/unauthorized. Removing features that exist is actually considered vandalism.

It's clear that these features still exist on the ground. Not being public access areas is an invalid reason to remove data from OSM. So this edit is incorrect and damaging to valid OSM data.

The correct way to handle this is to use OSM's tagging system. access=private, or access=no would be appropriate if they are closed to the public. Once this is done, services that do use OSM data will reflect that and specify their access.

Please read this for more info:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Why_we_won't_delete_roads_on_private_property

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Why_can%27t_I_delete_this_trail%3F
JezCrow (2026-01-10 00:34:23+00:00): This Shopmobility does mobility scooter hire AND sales though, is there a tag that would encompass both?
SomeoneElse (2026-01-10 11:39:12+00:00): That's a good question - I've not heard of a shopmobility that does sales as well.  Searching https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/shop#values for "mobility" finds a few options; "medical_supply" is obviously a bit more generic.
MK 1 (2025-12-29 22:00:09+00:00): Hello. What are you doing?
Mirditor22 (2026-01-03 12:52:07+00:00): Fine just i fixed more better but they deleted. Go to edit tap the background and tap Mapbox satellite to see how i fix more perfectly.
eggie (2025-12-29 22:09:10+00:00): Tip...   Geef aan brandgangen een extra tag mee  en geef aan wat je aanpast. 
footway=alley

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:footway%3Dalley

Mapse
eggie
Rainero (2026-03-30 10:58:26+00:00): Revert changeset/180623501
wegen nicht zulässiger Quelle (Bayernatlas).
eggie (2025-12-29 21:53:55+00:00): Drent ....geef aan wat je hebt aangepast.
Zelf gezien zegt niets.
mvg
eggie
eggie (2025-12-29 21:45:42+00:00): Dag fpww,

We taggen groundtruth..  Dus als 26 hier niet is dan ook niet dat adres toevoegen. 

MVG
eggie
eggie (2025-12-29 22:11:09+00:00): Wellicht kun je iets onder description = kwijt.
fpww (2025-12-31 10:45:52+00:00): Wat wil je dat ik daar plaats dan Eggie?
eggie (2025-12-31 11:01:20+00:00): Die kerken zijn altijd lastig.
Het Kadasteradres ligt naast het gebouw.
Wanneer je daar naar wilt verwijzen zou je een description kunnen toevoegen dar de organisatie op dat adres te vinden is.  Gewoon in het Nederlands. 
Het ging er nu alleen om dat die huisnummers uniek zijn voor de juiste locatie.
Zat ook al te zoeken bij post adres, maar die wiki is ook vaag.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Postal_Addresses
eggie (2025-12-31 11:04:19+00:00): Je kunt ook toevoegen de website
website=https://majellakapel.nl/

Daar zal ook de juiste informatie instaan.
eggie (2025-12-31 11:05:11+00:00): Daarin wordt je verwezen naar Majellakapel
Iepenlaan 26
1406 PW Bussum
fpww (2025-12-31 23:44:01+00:00): Ik ga er vanuit dat deze organisatie zelf heeft aangegeven dat nr. 26 op nr.22 (de majellakapel zelf) wordt vermeld als contact adres.
Vandaar dat ik dat heb laten staan.
eggie (2025-12-29 21:49:16+00:00): Dag Drent,

Geef concreet aan wat je hebt aangepast. Zelf geconstateerd is niet duidelijk wat je hebt gedaan.
Wanneer je source=survey zou toevoegen is dat je er bekend bent wel duidelijk zijn.

MVG
eggie
eggie (2025-12-29 21:52:45+00:00): Tip..  Trottoirs die een blokje omgaan routeren niet. Probeer maar eens over te steken. Wanneer je de trottoirs apart intekent maak dan voldoende verbindingen op de kruisingen.
Mapse
eggie
Patchanka (2025-12-31 13:18:03+00:00): bonjour et bienvenue

je vous envoie quelques infos en MP.

Attention à ne pas ajouter de nom quand l'objet n'en a pas. Ici par exemple, "sigle" ou 'sigle track" est simplement la description du chemin par rapport à l'usage en VTT. Le nom d'un chemin est son nom officiel (ex: Chemin des Dunes) et surtout ne rien mettre s'il n'en a pas. Il y a des tags dédiés pour les difficultés en VTT, je ne les connais pas bien mais vous trouverez des infos sur le wiki et de l'aide sur le forum si besoin.
https://forum.openstreetmap.fr/

Je vous laisse supprimer les noms innapropriés sur les différents chemins que vous avez ajouté. N'hésitez pas à me dire si vous avez besoin d'aide.

Bonne journée
silversurfer83 (2025-12-29 23:24:51+00:00): Hi :)

gute Arbeit.

Ein paar Details: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13416780785 barrier=entrance beschreibt eine Öffnung in einer Barriere, die einfach durchquert werden kann. Check da nochmal das Wiki und setz auch access=customers

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1462686321 ist vielleicht eine building_passage oder ein corridor. Auch hier Realität mit dem Wiki vergleichen.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/780347857 gut, dass du mit description=* arbeitest. Gibt für leisure=swimming_pool leider mehr als eine Möglichkeit darzustellen, dass es ein Planschbecken ist.

happy mapping
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silversurfer83 (2025-12-29 23:26:21+00:00): Moin :)

Adresse am Gebäude *oder* am (Haupt)Eingang. Bitte nicht an Eingang+Gebäude+Eigener Adressnode.
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GenGap (2025-12-30 16:05:16+00:00): Alles klar, ist geändert und wieder was dazu gelernt :)
i2004 (2025-12-29 23:34:17+00:00): que cambios hiciste?
AgusQui (2025-12-29 23:45:21+00:00): Unifique el ref de los 2 sentidos de Olivos x San Telmo en 29O y ya
mildlyconcernedtomato (2026-01-02 20:10:07+00:00): Cleanup for map note: https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/5047362
user_5359 (2025-12-30 10:47:05+00:00): Hello! Please don't add any foreign keys from our GIS system. Please translate these into the appropriate OSM keys.
eggie (2025-12-30 08:28:20+00:00): Welkom bij OpenStreetMap. Ik heb een uitgebreid welkomstbericht met wat handige tips en links gestuurd als privebericht.
MVG,
Eggie
Namens de OSM Community
Andrea Musuruane (2025-12-30 09:51:54+00:00): You are duplicating the wikidata tag already present on the relation of Canale Cavour. Please do not!
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Andrea Musuruane (2025-12-30 09:57:07+00:00): This wikidata tag is incorrect. You are tagging an association of 15 different museums and neither one of these is present at this location. Please do not insert it again.
Andrea Musuruane (2025-12-30 09:57:29+00:00): This wikidata tag is incorrect. You are tagging an association of 15 different museums and neither one of these is present at this location. Please do not insert it again.
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Andrea Musuruane (2025-12-30 09:59:46+00:00): You are duplicating the wikidata tag already present on relation 2230520. Please do not!
Andrea Musuruane (2025-12-30 10:00:18+00:00): You are duplicating the wikidata tag already present on relation 2230520. Please do not!
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Yurii Skvortsov (2025-12-30 15:02:51+00:00): Hello, I apologize, I forgot about this. I wish you a happy New Year. Sincerely, Yuri.
eggie (2025-12-29 22:52:42+00:00): Welkom bij OSM,
 
Het is niet de bedoeling om openbare data uit OSM te verwijderen.

MVG
eggie
TrickyFoxy (2025-12-31 23:43:19+00:00): Почему это не река?
SomeoneElse (2025-12-29 23:59:35+00:00): Thanks!
NeisReview (2025-12-30 06:20:57+00:00): Good Morning, 

please reply to your commented changesets, see https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=22723314

Thanks!

Best regards,
Pascal
FroschForscher (2026-01-24 13:28:51+00:00): Hallo Michi heißt das Resturant hier "Keine Ahnung" oder hast du Keine Ahnung wie es heißt?
Michi (2026-01-24 23:19:44+00:00): Das heißt tatsächlich "Keine Ahnung".

Das soll wohl ein Wortspiel sein, mit folgendem beispielhaften Hintergrund: "Schatz, was möchtest Du heute Abend essen?" - "Keine Ahnung" - "Alles klar, dann gehen wir ins Keine Ahnung"

Ich hab' jedenfalls eben ein note-Tag gesetzt. :-)
FroschForscher (2026-01-25 19:37:15+00:00): Danke
ceirios (2025-12-29 23:28:32+00:00): Croeso GafrPiws!

This looks great, but don't forget to press Q after drawing a building to make it square :)

Diolch
Ceirios
OSM_RogerWilco (2026-01-01 15:24:18+00:00): Moin sundew,
frohes neues Jahr! :-)

Ich hatte Dich bereits darum gebeten, keine addr:city und addr:postcode Tags von Paketstationen zu löschen. Hier nochmal die Bitte das nicht zu tun.

Viele Grüße
Roger Wilco
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sundew (2026-01-02 10:43:17+00:00): Hallo Roger,

ja das hatten wir diskutiert. Allerdings hatte ich dir schon mitgeteilt, dass Packstation keine eigene postalische Adresse besitzen, sondern sich auf die Adresse eines in der Nähe stehenden Gebäudes beziehen. Daher war bisher das postalische Adressschema addr:*= definitiv falsch. Dafür gibt es ref:addr:*= und in Bezug auf die Postleitzahl auch postal_code= ...,
meine Änderungen hast du ja einfach ungefragt entsorgt.

Dass anscheinend nicht breit abgestimmt vor kurzem diesbezüglich am OSM-Wiki herumgedoktort wurde, macht es nicht besser. Es kann nicht sein, dass eine Handvoll gelangweilter Forumsteilnehmer beschließen, jede Woche eine neue Sau durch's Dorf zu treiben und bestehende Regeln einfach so zu ändern. Und bitte erwarte jetzt nicht, ich hätte da mitdiskutieren sollen. Dafür fehlt mir die Zeit. 
Aber mach, was du willst, ich tu es auch aus Überzeugung am Wert des Projekts OpenStreetMap.

Ein erfolgreiches 2026,
sundew
Norbert Dichter (2025-12-30 12:19:31+00:00): Hello, thanks for mapping and welcome to HOT. Thank you for your contribution. The buildings you mapped are well done as to their location. But pay attention to the squareness of the corners. Always draw buildings as square and precise as you can. Then add the Building feature type. And last, right click it and click the square icon. Or just hit the Q-key.
Also please keep in mind: many buildings are very close but do not actually touch each other, try to map them close to each other without letting them connect or share nodes with each other, roads, or residential area outlines. In the iD web editor, holding down the "alt" key will keep nodes from "snapping" to each other and accidentally connecting.  Thanks so much for your contribution, Norbert 'Nodi' Dichter, HOT validator.
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TheSwavu (2025-12-30 01:51:12+00:00): Hi, 

The street number goes under a addr:housenumber tag not addr:unit. addr:state should be the abbreviation in upper case. Address components beyond addr:street are optional. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Australian_features#Addresses 

I have fixed this one.

Thanks.
pwbriggs (2025-12-30 06:43:23+00:00): Thanks for the edit! This will take a bit (~1 week to 1 month) to show up in CoMaps (it takes the CoMaps project a bit to rebuild the updated data download).
pwbriggs (2025-12-30 00:40:01+00:00): Was working on this. I think just adding access=private to the park and facilities would be correct? Assuming there is a sign to that effect on the ground. My guess is that this is a semi-gated neighborhood, where anybody *could* drive in and use this park, but it's strongly discouraged. I'll comment the changeset.
pwbriggs (2025-12-30 00:49:40+00:00): hmm well the user has a fair point that this might also apply to the park. See my comment of the original changeset. We'll see what they say about what the situation is on the ground.

Thanks, happy mapping!
chath_tsu (2025-12-30 00:58:27+00:00): Thank you helping with this! The park already had an access=private tag before it was deleted. I checked some street-level photos and could see some signs that say residents only. The user of the original changeset seem to be the property management company of this estate so I guess they are trying to further discourage people from using it.
JoeG (2025-12-30 23:22:12+00:00): Hi again. This changeset deletes a mapped oval (leisure=pitch). Is there a reason for this? As for other changesets, it also deletes footway=sidewalk on 3 ways. Is there a reason for that too?
DeanBA (2025-12-31 12:44:41+00:00): There is no oval in this place. The sports grounds have been replaced and cover a large area
NeisBot (2025-12-30 06:16:02+00:00): Welcome, and thanks for your edits!

I noticed a few unintended crossings between roads and/or between roads and buildings in this changeset. This usually happens when geometry snaps incorrectly. Additionally, changes to tagging (e.g. modifying highway types or adding tags) can lead to unexpected crossings being detected afterwards.

In total, I detected 15 potential crossings.

⚠️️ Problematic elements (top 3):
https://osm.org/way/1414706972 v1 | 5 crossings
https://osm.org/way/1414706973 v1 | 5 crossings
https://osm.org/way/236647455 v9 | 3 crossings

⚠️ Dragged Nodes (max 3):
https://osm.org/node/12999769851 v2

Would you mind revisiting those areas?

#CrossingCheck
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Sylabowy Kot (2025-12-30 11:46:10+00:00): Tak jak automat zauważył i wskazuje lista ostrzeżeń, zmiana zrobiła więcej złego niż dobrego, więc ją wycofałem w całości: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/176623607

Na przyszłość prośba o:
- zwracanie większej uwagi na ruszane obiekty - zrobienie zbyt więcej niż w opisie zwraca na siebie uwagę
- czytanie ostrzeżeń (żółte pola przy zapisywaniu zmiany) - jeszcze bardziej zauważalne problemy
- podawanie źródeł danych - skąd wiesz, że tak to osiedle się nazywa np. survey (wizja lokalna) - pomaga uniknąć innym wątpliwościom
JoeG (2025-12-30 23:13:32+00:00): Hi again. This changeset has footway=sidewalk deleted on 7 ways. As for the other changeset, I'd there a reason for this?
Hb- (2026-01-10 09:56:57+00:00): Nun pflegen einige Mapper genau das Gegenteil, nämlich die Verklebung von Landuse und Grenzen. Gibt es hierzu eine Empfehlung der Gemeinschaft?
welzheimerwald (2026-01-21 22:49:11+00:00): Meine Empfehlung ist, dies tunlichst zu unterlassen! Ein in der OSM fest etablierter Standard ist die Trennung von Concretum (also sichtbaren Objekten der Erdoberfläche) und Abstractum (z.B. Verwaltungsgrenzen, denn die sind im Liegenschaftskataster festgelegt). Auch wird die Wartung und Erneuerung der Objekte in der OSM so nicht unnötig erschwert.
MassCartog (2025-12-30 03:03:10+00:00): Hi Welcome to OSM, Since you have a new account, wanted to let you know It's better not to remove data, just update it. Instead of removing a feature that's incorrectly tagged as a road, just update the feature type to driveway, and set access to private. Thanks
habi (2026-03-19 07:59:55+00:00): Ciao anonym33
Gemäss https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pistes würde ich Pisten generell keinen Namen vergeben, der nur eine Zahl ist, sonder diese Zahl in `ref` oder `piste:ref` verpacken.
Gruss,
habi
Sylabowy Kot (2025-12-30 11:24:58+00:00): Swoją drogą przy Cmentarzu Wawerskim - ten niezmapowany prostokąt - jest też jakiś historyczny cmentarzyk. Dowiedziałem się dopiero po odbyciu ostatniej wizyty.
Mrksmlk (2025-12-31 11:09:30+00:00): Witaj,
Jeśli masz na myśli cmentarz przy ul. Korkowej, to na stronie urzędu m.st. Warszawy z zbytkami nie ma żadnej informacji o tym, aby jakikolwiek fragment cmentarza znajdował się w rejestrze zabytków lub w gminnej ewidencji zabytków.
Aleksandar Matejevic (2025-12-31 10:48:08+00:00): Hi, what is the goal of this? Is there any description of how to tag this nodes to coastlines?
andershl (2026-01-02 08:50:09+00:00): To import all missing officially known geographical names in Greenland, so that features can get a correct name immediately after they are entered. The most important task is to create or assign name to lakes, islands, rivers, and mountain peaks. Compared to that most of the rest is is "luxury". There are in total some 28000, and my best estimate is 4000 of each of those four main types.
user_5359 (2025-12-30 08:35:10+00:00): Welcome to OSM! I don't believe that all roads are marked with the (standard) names Road or road. I have deleted this designation.
ieguy3 (2025-12-30 03:26:10+00:00): https://www.cityofperris.org/home/showpublisheddocument/447/637974757046500000
Fizzie-DWG (2026-01-25 02:38:16+00:00): DWG revert - sock-puppet

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/177667205
rohieb (2025-12-30 05:01:05+00:00): source ist falsch, sollte https://www.presse-service.de/data.aspx/static/1205234.html sein
rohieb (2025-12-30 05:01:21+00:00): … und GeoBasis-DE/LGLN DOP20 (2025)
cs09736 (2026-01-04 01:31:21+00:00): Hi there,
Please see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names for information about how names should be tagged. In this case there is no marked name for the path leading to the entrance. The only name is of the station entrance, which has already been tagged on the subway entrance node. 
The name tag should only be used if there is a verifiable real-world name (i.e. what is actually shown on signage or officially used). name=Entrance/Exit 4 - Domain Road and name=indoor path are descriptive tags rather than verifiable names. All information in these tags is already captured by other tags such as the name and ref tags on the station entrance node and the indoor=yes tags on the underpass.
MilkTeaaa (2026-01-06 01:34:56+00:00): Hi, 
Names for these pathways are actually required for the entrance names to appear in https://transport.vic.gov.au/ . The indoor paths in the station also need name = indoor pathway, so that it avoids picking up the adjacent road name in https://transport.vic.gov.au/ . 

I will be adding the names back to the paths. Thank you for your understanding.
cs09736 (2026-01-06 01:45:47+00:00): These tags do not belong in OSM as there is no way to verify them on the ground, and this practice appears to be a form of tagging for the renderer. (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer and https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Verifiability). If you would like to discuss how OSM data could best integrate with the transport.vic.gov.au website, I'd suggest making a post on the OSM forum https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/communities/oceania/73 or sending an email to the Australian mailing list at talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Unfortunately the requirements of a PT journey planner app can't change how things are mapped within OSM.
aharvey (2026-01-06 02:58:46+00:00): Comments like "do not delete" aren't very helpful, I find it more helpful to other mappers to use the changeset comment to document why you made the changes, and if applicable referencing wiki guidance or documentation or another discussion elsewhere on the community channels.

> actually required for the entrance names to appear in https://transport.vic.gov.au/

The way features are mapped and tagged needs to accommodate a range of downstream data consumers, doing it a certain way just to make things easier for any single consumer might make it less useful for others.

@cs09736 is spot on here, regarding tagging for the renderer and verifiability. For your specific use case of the data, you could try to post-process the data to format the name as you need from other tags like entrance=* and ref=* on ways leading to a railway=subway_entrance.

> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1430177324

"indoor pathway" could also be something you add into your application based on highway=footway + indoor=yes.
Frank Peng (2025-12-30 08:52:20+00:00): Same thing as the other comments I left in several of your changesets. Please don't delete existing map elements and redraw them anew. It's against good practice on OSM to do that (Please see: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Keep_the_history). It's better to just modify the existing elements by adjusting their geometry (adding or moving nodes on the elements) or changing its tags. For this, you could've just expanded the geometry of the existing industrial areas that you deleted in this changeset: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/879874911 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/879874913

You can visit the FacilMap link of this changeset and you'll see that you deleted existing industrial areas and redrew them anew: https://facilmap.org/#q=changeset%20176610084

Please see this OSM Wiki article on keeping the history: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Keep_the_history
Please don't delete existing map elements and redraw them from scratch. It's better to update the geometry of the existing objects, retaining their editing history. Similarly, make sure to preserve the identity of an element even when its tags become different (but don't overdo it).

Can you explain what you were trying to do here? Thanks.
FraukeLeo (2026-03-09 12:23:23+00:00): Hallo, du hast eine Abbiegebeschränkung eingebaut, die für den von Norden kommenden Verkehr zwingend eine Linksabbiegung auf den Parkplatz vorschreibt, also das Geradeausfahren auf der Sodener Straße verbietet.

War das Absicht?
FraukeLeo (2026-03-09 12:24:57+00:00): Es geht um die Kreuzung an der KVB-Klinik: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/20022434
PStieler (2026-03-09 12:32:56+00:00): Keine Absicht, muss sich um ein Versehen handeln.
FraukeLeo (2026-03-09 12:58:39+00:00): War vielleicht no_left_turn statt only_left_turn gemeint?

Ich bin nicht vor Ort und kann nicht nachgucken, hab mich nur gestern gewundert, dass Osmand mich einen Umweg geführt hat.
NeisBot (2025-12-30 06:22:53+00:00): Hello, welcome and thank you for your contribution to OSM!

Your changeset was commented because your added description or slogan contains detailed text that may be interpreted as promotional or SEO-related. To ensure OSM remains neutral and focused on map data, I recommend keeping descriptions concise, factual, and free from marketing or promotional language.

⚠️️ Problematic element (limit 1):
https://osm.org/node/13417349808 v1

Could you please revise your description accordingly?

✅ For example, a more neutral and factual version of your description could be: "Math tutoring center"

#MapWithoutSpam #Tag #Description
NeisReview (2026-01-07 07:22:31+00:00): 🚫 Text removed by https://osm.org/changeset/176615447
Thanks @user_5359
CAM-Gerlach_Repair (2026-06-22 15:27:31+00:00): Cleaned up incorrectly abbreviated street name in changeset 184437439

https://osm.org/changeset/184437439
Glassman (2025-12-31 00:23:29+00:00): I'm looking at the KIing County iMap and it shows the original addresses. Are you shure this is correct? Check out https://gismaps.kingcounty.gov/iMap/
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NeisBot (2025-12-30 06:16:13+00:00): Welcome, and thanks for your edits!

I noticed a few unintended crossings between roads and/or between roads and buildings in this changeset. This usually happens when geometry snaps incorrectly. Additionally, changes to tagging (e.g. modifying highway types or adding tags) can lead to unexpected crossings being detected afterwards.

In total, I detected 15 potential crossings.

⚠️️ Problematic elements (top 3):
https://osm.org/way/674879784 v17 | 6 crossings
https://osm.org/way/28892545 v28 | 5 crossings

⚠️ Dragged Nodes (max 3):
https://osm.org/node/6320312635 v7
https://osm.org/node/6320312620 v5
https://osm.org/node/317589883 v10

Would you mind revisiting those areas?

#CrossingCheck
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NeisReview (2026-01-09 06:55:46+00:00): ✅ Should be fixed by 
https://osm.org/changeset/176993250
rskedgell (2026-01-06 00:51:56+00:00): Why did you feel it was necessary to redundantly and incorrectly add access=no here when it was already tagged with motor_vehicle=no and other access tags?