piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
Hufkratzer (2023-03-14 23:42:21+00:00): Hi,
You have removed building=yes from
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/181224345
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/181224347
and
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/181224370
Therefore these buildings are no longer rendered as buildings.

You have tagged them leisure=horse_riding, but wiki page
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Tag:leisure=horse_riding
says: "Utiliser cette étiquette seulement une fois pour l'ensemble du lieu, ne pas l'utiliser plusieurs fois sur différents objets lui appartenant ..."
NorthCrab_upload (2023-03-14 10:50:26+00:00): Zauważyłem, że Twoja zmiana zawiera adresy wymagające dodatkowej uwagi. Przygotowałem listę obiektów oraz dodatkowe informacje:

Nazwa ulicy nie istnieje w okolicy.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10734640590
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10734640591

Pozdrawiam! 🦀
Bobropiton (2023-03-15 09:01:13+00:00): Приветствую. Зачем Вами было изменено название stop_position и platform на маршрут автобуса? Зачем были внесены ref автобуса на эти же объекты?
Note_Fixer (2023-03-15 12:54:28+00:00): http://orgp.spb.ru/2023-062/

http://orgp.spb.ru/bus/
173
Naim. marshr.
Zhenya Yegorova St.-pos. Kamenka
Bobropiton (2023-03-17 03:34:43+00:00): Новость от Организатора перевозок каким образом соотносится с данными объектами?
Список маршрутов Санкт-Петербургского организатора перевозок каким образом соотносится с данными объектами? 

Между линиями 764061083 и 1154455381 находится stop_position которая является конечной точкой одного маршрута и начальной точкой другого маршрута. Объединяя линию вы оставляете один маршрут за пределами досягаемости этой точки, благодаря чему маршрут начинает показывать ошибку. На платформы/точки stop_position/дороги НЕ вносится какая либо информация об автобусном маршруте, она вносится в маршрут-отношение. Их здесь 2.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2729345 и https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2729346. А так же мастер-маршрут https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2729347
В них уже содержится исчерпывающаяся основная информация.

С правилами работы над Общественным транспортом в ОСМ Вы можете ознакомиться здесь: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport

А пока что мной был выполнен откат вашего пакета 133768933 по причине повторившегося вандализма маршрута автобуса № 173.

Прошу Вас более не вандалить 
с помощью ID Редактора маршруты общественного транспорта. Если у Вас будут вопросы касательно общественного транспорта-вы всегда можете обратиться ко мне.
fndoder (2023-03-14 19:37:08+00:00): Тут, в Серебряном бору, домики уже разрушены, но пока ещё уверенно в виде руин распознаются на местности.

Вот тут актуальные фотки - https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/%D0%A1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D1%80%D1%8F%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9-%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80-%D0%AD%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BE%D0%BD.2373135/

Если не будет возражений, я их пока верну и все затегирую в Серебряном бору как building=ruins?
Глеб (2023-03-14 20:08:03+00:00): нет никаких возражений, в окрестностях казани всё запущено. ооооочень много устаревшей информации.
fndoder (2023-03-14 20:21:22+00:00): ок.

С устаревшим и ошибочным да, много проблем (
parukhin (2023-04-20 10:44:06+00:00): Коллеги, там даже на ESRI максимум brownfield, но никак не руины
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Tag:building=ruins
fndoder (2023-04-20 10:56:43+00:00): > Коллеги, там даже на ESRI максимум > brownfield, но никак не руины

А как тогда правильно затегировать эти груды бетона от разрушенных домиков?
Глеб (2023-04-20 11:02:57+00:00): Stages of decay

disused:*=*
    Not currently in use, but could be reinstated easily
    For physically prominent objects (e.g. buildings, towers or quarries), disused=yes is used more often[1].
    Railways: railway=disused is still used in addition to the lifecycle prefix, as it pre-dates the introduction of prefixes.[2]
    usage: ~177,600 (as of 2021-04)

abandoned:*=*
    Still visible but fallen into serious disrepair and which could only be put back into operation with considerable effort
    For physical objects (e.g. buildings, towers or quarries), abandoned=yes is used more often[3].
    Railways: railway=abandoned for partially dismantled tracks is still used in addition to the lifecycle prefix, which pre-dates prefix introduction.[2]
    usage: ~277,900 (as of 2021-04)

ruins:*=*
    Only ruins are remaining
    usage: ~3,400 (as of 2021-04)

The following four tags are available to reduce the possibility of a mapper remapping the feature from existing available sources used to edit OSM, e.g. satellite or aerial imagery, that shows the old state of the feature. Once the OSM available sources do not show the feature, the feature can safely be removed from OSM. Renderers cannot rely on OSM preserving physically vanished history.

demolished:*=*
    Not existing anymore because of active removal
    May have been used for features that are almost but not completely invisible
    usage: ~41,100 (as of 2021-04)

removed:*=*
    Not existing anymore because of active removal (possible duplicate of demolished:*=*)
    usage: ~27,600 (as of 2021-04)

razed:*=*
    Not existing anymore because of active removal (duplicate of removed:*=*, possible duplicate of demolished:*=*)
    Railways: railway=razed for fully dismantled tracks and trackbed (overbuilt state) is still used in addition to the lifecycle prefix, because it pre-dates prefix introduction.[2]
    usage: ~25,900 (as of 2021-04)

destroyed:*=*
    Destroyed by an event other than intentional demolition
    usage: ~5,300 (as of 2021-04)
parukhin (2023-04-20 11:08:22+00:00): Так там вся территория уже brownfield, груды бетона туда входят.
Зачем вам отделные контуры, чтобы точно знать куда идти на прогулке?
Даже те кто по бингу рисуют руин не видят
Глеб (2023-04-20 11:11:54+00:00): Поэтому я их и удалил.
Но, фактически, руины-то есть.
fndoder (2023-04-20 11:12:49+00:00): ОК, давайте удалять, согласен.
parukhin (2023-04-22 12:58:26+00:00): Удалил то, чего нет даже на Bing'e.
Построят - нарисуем новые.
Глеб (2023-04-27 13:54:54+00:00): В новостях сказали, что дублёр Горьковского шоссе открыли. Я там не был, проверьте что-нибудь.
CAM-Gerlach_Repair (2026-06-07 08:21:41+00:00): Cleaned up SEO spam tags for Wilshire Law Firm - Riverside POI in changeset 183768096

https://osm.org/changeset/183768096
mavl (2023-03-24 10:30:08+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 134051515, 134045911, 134058112 where the changeset comment is: The changesets are reverted [DWG has the request to revert the changesets. Reason: incompatible source - https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/6981].
Langlaeufer (2023-03-14 11:32:01+00:00): Hallo Nick,

was wolltest du mit motor-vehicle= designated auf dem Feldweg ausdrücken ?  https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/310709007
Wenn Kraftfahrzeuge ausdrücklich erlaubt sind, dann würde ich das als Straße klassifizieren.
Grüße Frank
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nick-28 (2023-03-14 20:41:27+00:00): Hallo Frank,

Feldweg, VZ 252, Land- und Forstwirtschaft frei. Wenn ich das richtig sehe, müsste "designated" passen, oder nicht?

Gruß, Nick
Langlaeufer (2023-03-14 20:56:22+00:00): Ist das nicht Zeichen 260? (Durchfahrt für Kraftfahrzeuge aller Art verboten)?
(252 war das mal in der StVO 1975)

highway=track
motor_vehicle=agricultural;forestry

designated heißt für die Verkehrsart gedacht, dass ist es ja gerade nicht
nick-28 (2023-03-14 22:01:45+00:00): Hallo Frank,

das hatte ich anders verstanden. ID liefert als Erklärung für "designated": "Access allowed according to signs or sprecific local laws"
Das würde ich dahingehend interpretieren, dass nicht näher spezifizierte Schilder bzw. andere Regeln die Zufahrt regeln.

Gruß
Nick
Langlaeufer (2023-03-14 22:21:45+00:00): Dazu wurden im Forum schon endlose Diskussionen geführt. Designated bedeutet eigentlich so viel wie Nutzung ausdrücklich durch Zeichen erlaubt.
Allerdings wird das in Deutschland anders verwendet im Sinne von ausdrücklich für die Verkehrsart vorgesehen. Dabei ist es egal ob das durch Zeichen oder Bauart erkenntlich ist.

Kennst du das verkehrszeichentool?
http://osmtools.de/traffic_signs/
Langlaeufer (2023-03-14 22:27:50+00:00): Kleine Ergänzung designated wird in deutschland eigentlich nur für Rad- und Fußwege (path mit bicycle/foot=designated) verwendet sowie fürr Strecken die für  Gefahrguttransporter vorgesehen sind (hazmat=designated)
nick-28 (2023-03-15 17:18:09+00:00): Ja, es würde auch keinen Sinn machen designated mit gewöhnlichen Straßen und KFZ zu verwenden. Wo sollten die auch sonst fahren?
Die endlosen Diskussionen dazu im Forum habe ich nicht mitbekommen, muss schon länger her sein. Die Lösung mit access->agricultural ist sicherlich besser, obwohl genaugenommen auch forestal dabeistehen müsste. Es gibt auch Feld- und Forstwege, die jeweils nur für eine Verkehrsart zugelassen sind. Aber das wäre Haarspalterei.
Tomas Straupis (2023-03-14 11:37:28+00:00): Ne. Čia yra privažiavimas - driveway.
phoenixsaigon1698 (2023-05-30 07:22:32+00:00): Car can turn right to reach The Horizon Apartment. Cars are prohibited only hourly (06:00-22:00) from Horizon Apartment to Tran Quang Khai
phoenixsaigon1698 (2023-05-30 07:22:51+00:00): turn left.
GeorgeKaplan (2023-07-21 21:06:42+00:00): Bonjour, 
Il ya une incohérence dans ces changements : le segment Est de la rue Hector Despret est un footway (réservé exclusivement aux piétons) mais de nombreux itinéraires de bus y passent encore.
NorthCrab_upload (2023-03-14 11:00:24+00:00): 🗺️ Witaj na OpenStreetMap!

Zauważyłem, że Twoja zmiana zawiera adresy wymagające dodatkowej uwagi. Przygotowałem listę obiektów oraz dodatkowe informacje:

Nazwa ulicy nie istnieje w okolicy. Jeśli adres ma nazwę ulicy, upewnij się, że jest ona poprawna. Jeśli nie, usuń addr:street, a nazwę miejscowości przekaż w addr:place.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10733442909

Dokumentacja adresów (po polsku):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pl:Key:addr:*

W razie problemów lub pytań, proszę pisać. Chętnie pomogę.
Pozdrawiam! 🦀
SomeoneElse (2023-04-12 10:09:10+00:00): Hello,
I've got a  question about https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1154234489 , and the horse relation https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1770168 more generally.  Way 1154234489 is currently in OSM as a footpath, and as it's obviously on a long distance horse route I suspect it should be more than that.  It wasn't you, or anyone else from the NT, that introduced the gap - I'm just asking you because you're editing in the area and might know the answer!
Further north at https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1770168#map=20/51.88200/-0.53786 , perhaps you know how the horse route crosses the Tring road?
Best Regards,
Andy
JasmineRanasinghe (2023-04-24 14:53:19+00:00): Hi Andy,

Thank you for your comment. Having discussed this with the National Trust ranger team in the area, the team were unaware the Icknield way path ran this way which is why it wasn't tagged with horse access. I will go back in and put horse=permissive here now where the route goes through Dunstable Downs. 

Unfortunately I couldn't tell you how the horse route crosses the Tring road further north.

Many thanks,
Jas
SomeoneElse (2023-04-24 16:14:59+00:00): Thanks - and if you think OSM has got any of the routes wrong here please let us know (or just correct them!)
Noen (2023-03-15 11:00:25+00:00): Hva er galt med stedsnavnet Skoger?
Det er det riktige navnet på dette boligområdet ifølge Kartverket (https://stadnamn.kartverket.no/gammel/829736).
zycro81 (2023-03-17 08:44:16+00:00): Det var riktig i ca 1850, da Skoger var alt sør for Drammen og besto av jordbruksområder og skog. I seinere tid har Åskollen, som er det korrekte stedsnavnet her, og andre byggefelt kommet til. Grensen til Skoger er flyttet lenger sør.
La oss bruke navn i kart som gjør dem korrekte i nåtiden, ikke slik det var for 200 år siden.
https://mediearkiv.drammen.kommune.no/fotoweb/archives/5001-Foto/Indekserte%20bilder/Drammen09680.jpg.info#?c=%2Ffotoweb%2Farchives%2F5001-Foto%2F%3Fq%3D%2522DRammen%2520Bye%2522
blacx (2023-03-16 00:18:05+00:00): No se que estas fent, pero t'estas carregant totes les lines de bus de tarragona. He vist que en jqngarcia et va comentar i ara fas servir el JOSM.
Un parell de cosetes. Quan selecciones una via, a l'esquerra tens una llista de tags i una mica mes avall una llista de linies de bus que passen per aquell carrer. si la selecciones i cliques "edita" pots editar la linia. Les linies han de seguir una estructura, primer les parades en ordres i despres els carrers per on passa. Les parades han de tindre el rol "stop" o platform, si la parada es a la propia via es posa stop, i si veus que es a la vora com un objecte independent "platform". I pels carrers el primer ha de ser per on comença la linia, basicament al mateix lloc que la primera parada.
La linia dels carrers ha de ser continua, si veus punts vermells es que esta tallada i esta malament. (Tot aixo al editor de la linia de bus)
Andy Little Einstein (2023-03-16 09:56:26+00:00): Hola, no recordo carregar-me cap línia d'autobús de Tarragona, el que estava fent era juntar totes les seccions de cada línia d'autobús perquè vagi contínua d'origen a final i en sentit contrari. Una cosa a comentar, si duplico alguna línia d'autobús és perquè la pròpia línia té dos o més recorreguts diferents com el del barri de Buenos Aires (carrers 27, 28 i 29) de la línia 3. En quant a les línies de platja he posat els recorreguts que hi havia l'estiu de 2022, quan arribi l'estiu de 2023 es faran les modificacions que hi hagin. En quant als rols, gracies per comentar, no ho sabia
blacx (2023-03-16 10:38:25+00:00): No se si te n'has carregat alguna de les que hi havia o les noves que has afegit les has afegit malament, pero ni veig moltes de trencades.
Fes-l'hi una ulla a:
https://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=pubtrans_routes&lon=1.29128&lat=41.12912&zoom=12&baselayer=Geofabrik%20Standard&overlays=ptv2_routes_invalid%2Cptv2_error_ways%2Cptv2_error_nodes
per veure quines son
Andy Little Einstein (2023-03-16 12:51:36+00:00): He corregit algunes coses, ara m'hauries de creure (quedarien algunes coses), però no hi ha cap "OSM inspector" que s'actualitzi conforme es va recarregant la pàgina i es va fent canvis
blacx (2023-03-16 17:59:38+00:00): No pateixis, ningú neix sabent, i que sent un novell ja sapiguis arreglar linies de bus està molt bé. I si tens qualsevol dubte, tenim una comunitat de telegram a https://t.me/osmcat
englu (2023-03-16 16:07:51+00:00): Czy droga 424880011 w okolicach współrzędnych 49.399705, 21.014131 przestała istnieć w terenie? Biegł tamtędy czarny szlak turystyczny (tym starym wariantem). Na nagranych śladach na Stravie (https://www.strava.com/heatmap#18.00/21.01390/49.39997/hot/all) i na satelicie widać dwie drogi - tę starą i tę którą na ty zmieniłeś przebieg.
SekeRob (2023-03-15 10:30:30+00:00): Hi,

You'd better NOT fix anything here as large scale damage was done and the causing CSs will be reverted. Best you read the CS commentaries prior to jumping in any repair, anywhere.

caio
Map47 (2023-03-15 11:30:42+00:00): Salve,
Non capisco il motivo di questo commento.
Ho eliminato un percorso che ho inserito per chiudere un multipoligono, che in seguto al ripristino dei dati è risultato inutile.
Non dovevo farlo?

Stammi bene
SekeRob (2023-03-15 12:16:08+00:00): As far as I can see the restore has not happened yet, which is why I warned you!
elot360 (2023-04-18 08:45:44+00:00): Why you deleted old tram lines, instead of giving them "abandoned" tags, to let them be visible on openrailwaymap as an old tram route?
LukasFro (2023-04-18 09:31:21+00:00): Hi, because the track is not abandoned, it has been demolished thus is not existing anymore.
elot360 (2023-04-18 10:01:10+00:00): Abandoned, razed, whatever. It should be let on the map to be visible as old tram network. Like here for example: https://www.openrailwaymap.org/?style=standard&lang=en&lat=50.362751981983266&lon=18.805460929870605&zoom=15
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/687546805#map=14/50.3659/18.8300&layers=N

What you did is deleted the priceless history of this current tram network part, contained just in changsets history. And I pretty sure your changes should be reverted
LukasFro (2023-04-18 10:23:53+00:00): Actually I do not have much experience in editing OSM, but I have reviewed the tram network in Kraków and found out that in "Krowodrza Górka" tram terminal also old tracks have been deleted instead of marking as "abandoned". Would you pls share with me some documents describing OSM policy in such cases?
Frans S (2023-03-14 14:34:04+00:00): Thanks for your contribution to this project.

You are a new mapper. Welcome to HOTOSM.

We cannot expect that you are already familiar with all issues around mapping. Therefore, I inform you about the most issues,

Please pay attention to next points:
Buildings are in general rather rectangular. Just 4, 6 or 8 nodes are sufficient.

Tag buildings as building=yes. Nothing more, no names.

Please map each building accurate over the rooflines and squared(rectangular only).


Don't connect nodes to other buildings or features.

The shadow of a building is not a part of the building.  !! You included them many times in your mappings. !!

Do not cluster buildings. Each building need to be mapped individually.

See also this document:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11PsAW0bzUZHbS8YnbaFzqOYhJY7tSPYG/view?usp=share_link


Best regards and keep mapping !
Frans S
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NorthCrab_upload (2023-03-14 11:40:19+00:00): 🗺️ Witaj na OpenStreetMap!

Zauważyłem, że Twoja zmiana zawiera adresy wymagające dodatkowej uwagi. Przygotowałem listę obiektów oraz dodatkowe informacje:

Nazwa ulicy nie istnieje w okolicy. Jeśli adres ma nazwę ulicy, upewnij się, że jest ona poprawna. Jeśli nie, usuń addr:street, a nazwę miejscowości przekaż w addr:place.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1154242931

Dokumentacja adresów (po polsku):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pl:Key:addr:*

W razie problemów lub pytań, proszę pisać. Chętnie pomogę.
Pozdrawiam! 🦀
Frans S (2023-03-14 14:14:04+00:00): Hi again.
About highway tagging:

Please apply the rules described in this wiki
Most common taggings.
Rural areas : Unclassified,  track , path, service
Urban areas: unclassified, residential, path.

You tagged highways=residential in rural areas. Should be 'unclassified'.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highways

Read also the remarks about tagging of tracks in the instructions.
Best regards and keep mapping
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Frans S (2023-03-14 14:28:33+00:00): Hello. 
A remark on a few mappings.
You included the yard in a few mappings. 
And, don't connect nodes of buildings to each other.
Best regards and keep mapping
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user_1566574 (2023-07-10 14:36:54+00:00): Salut !
Concernant ce chemin https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1154245182, tu as choisi d'appliquer layer=-1 et tunnel=yes. C'est incorrect, tu indiques qu'il y a un tunnel et que le chemin est situé sous la surface de la terre.
Je pense que tu as fais ceci parce que le validateur t'as indiqué un croisement de chemin, donc la solution tout simple à la place, c'est de créer un nœud qui connecte le trottoir avec ce chemin.

Également, même si le chemin a l'apparence d'un highway=track, l'usage est celui d'une allée, on peut donc mettre highway=service et s'aventurer à rajouter service=driveway.

Ne t'en fait pas, je m'occupe d'uniformiser tes contributions. N'hésites pas à lire le Wiki (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/) où à demander de l'aide à la communauté si tu as besoin d'aide. Merci de tes contributions :)
jnighan (2024-06-19 20:20:46+00:00): Hi, landuse=religious is not used in CT for areas that are a single place of worship and minimal other features (parking lot, etc.). It is only used for larger religious campuses, monasteries, etc.
swimdb (2024-06-20 00:31:57+00:00): Thanks for the info.  Is there a place where these things are documented so I can understand them in future?
jnighan (2024-06-20 00:42:09+00:00): Yes, this page covers it in general. But also the precedent everywhere I've seen is to not use any landuse=* at such a granular level

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dreligious
swimdb (2024-06-20 01:03:16+00:00): This is interesting but leads to tricky use cases. Looking at the logic of automated analysis:  

First, any piece of land should in principle have some sort of landuse attached, even by default implicitly or explicitly stating unused.  If the landuse for this small region is not religious, what is it? 

Further, a car parked in that parking lot is engaged in religious activity.  It is a private parking lot owned by the religious entity associated with the place of worship.  The attributes for the parking lot, were tagging complete, might indicate it is not public and for the use of the facility attached.  A land use polygon of course encodes  that naturally avoid the entire issue of parsing a parking lot tagset. 

Assume I have a billion accurate lat-longs and I want to find which of them are attributable to religious entities.  I would want any falling into the church grounds, especially the parking, to come up with a religious tag. 


Inside the US I can do this with land parcel data, but that is messy compared to just having broadly implemented landuse=religious tagging scheme. 


I am not disputing your assertion or the practices in the wiki and will avoid edits contravening that. I am noting that this practice leads to inconsistencies when parsing the model of the world.
jnighan (2024-06-20 02:14:31+00:00): Actually, it is not true that every land should have a landuse attached. I've often heard that as guidance for new mappers. Most land is not used. Look around European countries that have much more thorough landuse mapping--they never map at single building-level granularity. But in the case of this specific place of worship, I would definitely map the broader area as landuse=residential. If you are standing in the lawn of that Kingdom Hall of J.W., would you feel like you are standing in a residential neighborhood, or would you feel like you are on religiously significant land? I would definitely say I'm standing in a residential neighborhood, and the Hall is inside the neighborhood
jnighan (2024-06-20 02:27:33+00:00): Also, consider that core values of OSM are respecting precedent, consensus, community-driven guidance, etc. (which you have--I'm not implying you haven't). Those are principles which, in my opinion, are higher level for a crowd sourced project like OSM than principals of generalized, universal standards.

I've used parcel data to add landuse features for roughly the southern half of Hartford, for reference. But I had to assess each area manually and use contextual judgement to determine the character of each block and choose the appropriate landuse value. Hope this helps
swimdb (2024-06-20 02:32:12+00:00): If you emit  a lat-long in the parking lot of that church, your semantic activity should come out as religious from my code.  Not residential. 


If I were standing on a parking lot of a church, ready to walk to church, I would not feel like I lived there.

If you park your car there, the lat long I get from it as I powers up again should be semantically tagged as religious in nature. Not residential. 

As I said, I am completely fine with not further tagging the landuse around single worship entities.  But am pointing out the implications of the current scheme.