piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
Leo Slager (2025-07-21 14:25:51+00:00): Meerdere huisnummers zijn verplaatst,  soms ver buiten het gebouw.

Ik zet die weer terug op de juiste plaats.

Wees voorzichtig met het schuiven met de kaart. Je verplaatst soms ongemerkt een node.
TIP:
Beter is om uiy de edit modus te gaan, dan de kaart verschuiven en weer een nieuwe wijziging doen.
BERMN (2025-07-21 19:12:59+00:00): Er kan prima gelopen worden op een fietspad als er geen voetpad is. 

Er is wel een voetpad maar daar kan niet altijd naar de juiste bestemming gekomen worden aangezien tussen het voetpad en het fietspad water zit. 

Ik woon ergens in dat gebied, niemand kijkt raar op als er gelopen wordt op het fietspad. 

Of dit wettelijk mag, geen idee, maar ik heb nog nooit een boa of een agent iemand zien staande houden omdat iemand op dat gedeelte liep.

Ah ik dacht met all access = mag gebruikt worden door iedereen ongeacht hoe, en dat is uiteraard niet waar.

Een snorfiets mag hier, zover ik weet, gewoon over het fietspad. Een bromfiets is een ander verhaal.
Dus ja, misschien mag het wettelijk niet, maar in praktijk kan het vaak wel. Tis geen Amsterdam.

Mocht ik nummers hebben verplaatst is dat per ongeluk gegaan.
Leo Slager (2025-07-21 20:29:08+00:00): dat is correct, voetgangers mogen op het fietspad lopen als er geen voetpad is.
Dat is ook de default waarde, dus dat behoeft niet getagd te worden.

Een snorfiets volgt de regels voor een gewone fiets tenzij anders bepaald.
Bij een verkeerbord G11 taggen we dus mofa=yes.
Bij een verkeersbord g12a taggen we dus mofa en moped = designated.
Zie ook de NL wiki.

Veel ¨plezier met verder mappen.
Leo
0000FF berries (2025-07-21 22:31:05+00:00): Καλησπέρα σας. Να είστε καλά που θέλετε να βελτιώσετε τα δεδομένα στο OpenStreetMap.

Ανήκω στους εθελοντές και σας γράφω γιατί έχετε προσθέσει περιοχές με ονόματα όπως:
"Property Klironomoi Ioannis Parasyris"
"Ιδιοκτησία κληρ. Ιωάννη Αντ. Παρασύρη"

Π.χ.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/651748880
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/651761006
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1416195276
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/947532901
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/651742180

Οι χαρτογραφημένες περιοχές ως περιγράμματα και είδος γης είναι οκ, άλλα θα πρέπει να αφαιρεθούν οι προσωπικές πληροφορίες. Επίσης, προτείνω να προσθέσετε ownership=private.
Για παράδειγμα, η περιοχή https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/651748880 που τώρα είναι χαρτογραφημένη ως:
email=paryian@gmail.com
landuse=farmyard
name=Property Klironomoi Ioannis Parasyris
note=On Sale
operator=Ioannis Parasyris

Θα αλλάξει σε:
landuse=farmyard
ownership=private

Αν θέλετε να φτιάξετε έναν δικό σας χάρτη με τέτοιες προσωπικές πληροφορίες, σας προτείνω να χρησιμοποιήσετε το umap.openstreetmap.fr Απλώς φροντίστε να σώσετε το editing url, για να μπορείτε να αλλάξετε τον χάρτη μετά.

Αν έχετε απορίες, στείλτε μου μήνυμα ή μπορείτε να γράψετε στο φόρουμ για την Ελλάδα: https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/communities/gr/68

Να είστε καλά πάλι που θέλετε να βελτιώσετε τα δεδομένα και καλές χαρτογραφήσεις.
Leo Slager (2025-07-21 14:32:24+00:00): Same mistakes as in changeset 1 in the Netherlands.
Please correct them.
BERMN (2025-07-21 18:20:19+00:00): That’s not very specific. A change set in a whole country.
Leo Slager (2025-07-21 18:37:31+00:00): Well, you did make only 1 changeset in yhe Netherlands and that is changeset nr 1.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/169217302#map=15/52.33450/5.52667&layers=N
sjwhitak (2025-07-20 23:37:07+00:00): That being said, you really can keep walking because these are side roads and most people simply walk on the grass or road, but I don't believe that's what we want mapped. So, I'm not entirely sure if noexit=yes is valid since you can keep walking on the street after the sidewalk ends.
neo-plan (2025-07-20 23:48:47+00:00): *по чётной стороне домов Братиславской улицы
AkuAnakTimur (2025-07-21 15:39:41+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1336789763

"Jalan Raya" for real?
AkuAnakTimur (2025-07-25 19:51:35+00:00): Could you please respond to messages and/or discussions over here?

Lack of response might be the potential cause of getting reported to OpenStreetMap's Data Working Group, worse come to worst, a block to the account.
KL Teh (2025-07-26 07:48:06+00:00): Hi, sorry for the late reply, the name for "Jalan Raya" in this case, is the stretch of main road in Bedong town.

Basically, it's the translation of Main St., which is either Jalan Besar or Jalan Raya.

The reason of putting in the name is it is widely used in addresses in this case, just like "Jalan Pasar" or "Jalan Market" branching out of this road. Other than that, the main identifier is the lot number which is much harder to pinpoint the exact location in real life usage.

And regarding the use of this name in official (government) documents, usually state road like this would only have name that indicates its destination, e.g. "Jalan Alor Setar-Butterworth", which is meant for official documentation by JKR (used for road maintanence purpose). And often time, these official documents are hard to come by.

The second option, is the so-called "common name" and this is much harder to justify. In this context, it is justified as:
1. It is widely used in addresses for businesses along this stretch of road.
2. The accuracy comes down to the uniqueness of this road being the only "Main St." in Bedong and easily recognised by local community.

In conclusion, the name is accurate in its local context, but not necessarily for every town with similar roads.

Once again sorry for the late reply.
AkuAnakTimur (2025-07-26 16:10:01+00:00): Many thanks for your reply.

I believe "Jalan Raya" is a bit too generic. I do commute through this specific route to go balik kampung sometimes and I can't find any signpost that mentions "Jalan Raya". So the north-south Federal Route 1 is not "Jalan Raya"?* What makes it not another "Jalan Raya"? That's why it's much easier when at least a (permissible, not copyrighted) source can be brought to the discussion.

Jalan Pasar is probably signposted - I'll check for it again (ground truth) when I go balik kampung again in the near future. If there's a road sign for it, or prominently displayed via addresses on business signs, it's all clear.

* "Jalan Alor Setar-Butterworth" is indeed in official documents but at least it appears on this road sign - this is taken by me: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Federal_Route_1_Jalan_Butterworth_Alor_Setar_sign_with_destinations_and_distances_to_them.jpg
AkuAnakTimur (2025-07-26 16:20:46+00:00): P.S. Still I believe "Jalan Raya" might not fit local_name

Pedantry: this however has a name signpost which is this one - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jalan_Pintas_Semeling_1.jpg

I believe since it existed like probably 50 years plus and recently just got gazetted as a federal route... I don't think the current name fits up until here https://osm.org/go/4GouCpAcB-?m=
NorthCrab_upload (2025-07-21 00:11:00+00:00): Zauważyłem, że Twoja zmiana zawiera niepoprawne adresy. Przygotowałem listę obiektów do poprawy oraz dodatkowe informacje:

Duplikat adresu w okolicy. Adres można oznaczyć na dwa sposoby: na obszarze (dokładniejsze) albo na punkcie. Aktualizując adres, należy się upewnić, czy w okolicy nie pozostały żadne duplikaty.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13014612748
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1024472669

Dokumentacja adresów (po polsku):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pl:Key:addr:*

W razie problemów lub pytań, proszę pisać. Chętnie pomogę.
Pozdrawiam! 🦀
NeisBot (2025-07-21 01:21:47+00:00): Hello, welcome and thank you for your contribution to OSM!

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pitscheplatsch (2025-07-23 07:22:21+00:00): ✅ Corrected by https://osm.org/changeset/169225066
kucai (2025-08-07 15:21:28+00:00): There's a duplicate housenumber 2 on Jalan Teberau. Which is which?
kucai (2025-08-07 15:23:25+00:00): You also have duplicate #6 on jalan Tebu.
CoyKoi (2025-07-22 22:11:04+00:00): Hey NyanSten thanks for the updates,
FYI there has been an upgrade to the walkway along the northern edge, alongside the yacht clubs. So there are several benches there which no longer exist. I have update the area just now. There isn't fresh enough aerial imagery, but you can refer to a Mapillary trace to see the current state. Cheers
Alliegaytor (2025-07-21 08:16:28+00:00): FYI you've created a gap in the Sunbury line (r17544633) and the stops in several routes were not ordered properly and were missing the "stop" role. I've fixed the stop order in changeset #169228611, but not the gaps (you can fix that). Please practice care around these relations as it can be difficult to figure out what you've intended to happen and that in turn makes it harder to correct the errors accordingly.

Also, I just noticed that you've made a lot of route relations that are complete unordered messes. These were harder to find as they were missing the public_transport:version=2 tag. I've not the time to attempt to fix them, so I'd advise that you compile a list of the routes so that you can fix them once you learn how to.
LachlanTansey2009 (2025-08-23 21:21:20+00:00): Thank you for advising me with this. I do appreciate it.
dknelson9876 (2025-07-23 03:44:22+00:00): Hi Nikhil, thanks for your edit! You were right the first time, though. These are just footpaths, not pedestrian streets. I've taken care of changing them back already
wambag (2025-07-21 02:54:19+00:00): In the effort to paint every square inch of RI with landuse values, there seems to have been an unhealthy disregard to the street grid. Nodes placed to create these overly complex TIGER-like landuse features have yanked streets out of alignment, particularly when differing landuses were forcibly made to contact each other for no good reason. Where egregious, my method is to detach the landuse features from each other and the streets, then align them with the properties off the streets' sides.
wambag (2025-07-21 03:34:26+00:00): Not to mention the landuse values are just plain wrong. Gas stations and florists are not 'commercial'. Residential does not cover houses, zig zags through properties as if the person who placed them was drunk. Source says RIGIS. Haphazard at best.
felipeeugenio (2025-07-21 12:59:54+00:00): Hola. Buenos días.

¿Qué intentó hacer? porque dibujó un camino como perímetro de un loteo pegado a todo el resto de los caminos, pero el loteo no se observa en las fotos satelitales.

saludos
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Joseph R P (2025-07-22 01:59:33+00:00): Thank you for fixing the Las Vegas city boundaries! These had been very incorrect for a long time until now.
Flap Slimy Outward (2025-07-22 05:11:52+00:00): You're welcome! Which part(s) of the old border were inaccurate?
Joseph R P (2025-07-22 20:33:29+00:00): Most of the northwestern borders, especially around the Kyle Canyon/Lone Mountain/Centennial Hills areas. A user had attempted to supposedly simplify the borders, incorrectly realigning the outermost borders to the Red Rock Canyon NCA boundary, engulfing the Paiute Res. boundaries, and deleting official enclaves of unincorporated Clark County located inside of Las Vegas and arbitrarily integrating them into the city.
Flap Slimy Outward (2025-07-23 03:21:04+00:00): Oh, okay. Well, it appears that the bulk of this changeset focused on those two issues in particular. This makes me wonder: What's up with those random enclaves anyway? Most of them don't surround anything notable, like national parks, military areas (both of these are government property), or Native American reservations (autonomous). In fact, the largest such enclave just seems to surround a residential area.
Joseph R P (2025-07-23 20:00:22+00:00): The residential areas that are surrounded by but legally not part of Las Vegas are areas of unincorporated Clark County that were inhabited prior to the city's annexation of what is currently northwestern region. This allows for different zoning laws, like ones you'd find in a rural area, all within in an area just outside of the city proper. This allows agricultural activity, like the ranches and orchards you can find around the Tule Springs area, or for larger, more rural-like estate houses that are sparsely placed around the Lone Mountain area. Pre-existing residents also won't have to be annexed into the city and thus forced to follow its laws that may differ from those that apply to Clark County. Most of Las Vegas is land that was undeveloped before being annexed by the city.
Flap Slimy Outward (2025-07-23 22:25:30+00:00): Oh, okay, that's very interesting. I guess the next step would be to align them to roads if possible, but for now, I think I'll them them the way they are right now.
Joseph R P (2025-07-24 17:17:29+00:00): The boundaries not being snapped to the roads should be fine. It makes editing the roads and boundaries on their own far easier without having to worry about moving other attached ways around or accidentally breaking them.
Flap Slimy Outward (2025-07-24 18:11:22+00:00): Alrighty then. So far, I have been using your suggestion of adding bidirectional roads to borders (if they appear to use said roads for their boundaries) while drawing a new way between the carriageways of single-directional roads (like Sahara Avenue), while not snapping them to anything else (other than other borders, LOL).
Flap Slimy Outward (2025-07-21 03:20:33+00:00): Typo: I forgot to REMOVE the fixme from the Las Vegas relation.
fortera_au (2025-08-01 23:47:41+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 169841222, 169841249, 169841240, 169841260, 169841200, 169841256, 169841237, 169841215, 169841214, 169841228, 169841245, 169841232 where the changeset comment is: DWG revert: incompatible source
BCNorwich (2025-07-22 06:06:11+00:00): Hi, it seems that you've got footways of different layers joined together. If the paths are separated by height, they shouldn't be joined.

Regards Bernard.
BCNorwich (2025-07-23 04:45:25+00:00): Left joined together they could disrupt routing.
Mike Jay Morgan (2025-07-25 05:01:01+00:00): Hey, just letting you know that I've seperated points that were interchangeably connected on layer 0 and 1. I've seperated each layers pathway with a small distance, so if the path ways need further changes they could be managed if noticed by others.
Mike Jay Morgan (2025-07-25 05:02:15+00:00): See changeset #: 169431565
fortera_au (2025-08-01 23:47:24+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 169841222, 169841249, 169841240, 169841260, 169841200, 169841256, 169841237, 169841215, 169841214, 169841228, 169841245, 169841232 where the changeset comment is: DWG revert: incompatible source
Glassman (2025-07-21 20:20:40+00:00): VWorld의 이미지를 사용하지 마십시오. 제 이해로는 한국의 이용 약관이 OSM에서 해당 이미지를 사용하지 못하도록 규정하고 있습니다.


현재 해당 약관을 조사 중이며, 만약 예상대로라면 이 이미지를 사용한 편집 내용은 되돌려야 할 수 있습니다.

in English:
Please do not use VWorld's imagery since it is my understanding, Korea's terms of use do not allow it to be used in OSM. 

We are doing an investigation of the terms and if it is as we suspect, then you edits that used this imagery will need to be reverted.
aaei924 (2025-07-22 05:31:45+00:00): I recently got an official answer from VWorld operation team. Please make reference to article below in investigation. Thank you.

(article in Korean)
https://www.vworld.kr/v4po_brdqna_s002.do?pageIndex=1&bodIde=&searchCondition=3&searchKeyword=&searchOrder=1&brdIde=30570
Glassman (2025-07-22 14:58:07+00:00): I'm unable to open the link, just get a bad gateway error.
aaei924 (2025-07-23 03:28:49+00:00): Unfortunately that website seems to be only accessible in Korean IP address...
adreamy (2025-07-25 08:16:21+00:00): The extraction of data from Vworld is illegal under South Korea's 'Spatial Information Management Act'.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/첫_걸음#Exporting_South_Korean_Geographic_Information_Abroad_(e.g.,_under_the_Spatial_Information_Management_Act)
The linked document also states that only 'display' of the data is permitted.
adreamy (2025-07-25 08:19:18+00:00): The English translation of the linked article is as follows:
“The Vworld operating entity is responsible for this matter. If you are only 'displaying' data by calling the Vworld Open API on OpenStreetMap, there is no issue. (Proper attribution of the source is required.)”
fortera_au (2025-08-01 23:47:42+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 169841222, 169841249, 169841240, 169841260, 169841200, 169841256, 169841237, 169841215, 169841214, 169841228, 169841245, 169841232 where the changeset comment is: DWG revert: incompatible source
grzegorz75jan (2025-07-21 07:41:46+00:00): Być może z automatu powodem dla nich są drogi typu tertiary bo 90 to miałem pokazane tam gdzie na znakach jest nawet 40.

W przypadku gdy wie się co jest źródłem dla prędkości warto dodać 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pl:Key:source:maxspeed

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pl:Key:maxspeed?uselang=pl

Gdy to typowo teren zabudowany to 
source:maxspeed=PL:urban
a gdy znak B-33 to 
source:maxspeed=sign

Znak B-43 opisany w source:maxspeed.

Inna ciekawostka spotykana ale w OSM to maxpeed np. 70 a dla busów i ciężarówek dane np. 80 Prawdopodobnie to pozostałość jeżeli wcześniej ogólna maksymalna była 90 praktycznie dla pojazdów do 3,5 t więc dla powyżej 3,5 t było niżej a po częściowej zmianie zostało 80.
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TrickyFoxy (2025-08-01 14:24:47+00:00): Reverted

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/169821438
Leo Slager (2025-07-21 14:32:59+00:00): Welkom bij OpenStreetMap. Ik heb een uitgebreid welkomstbericht met wat handige tips en links gestuurd als privebericht.
MVG,
Leo
Namens de OSM Community
Leo Slager (2025-07-21 14:36:10+00:00): Het telefoonnummer graag in het internationale format.
Dus +31 en zonder de nul.

verander je het zelf ?
Liskwartier (2025-07-21 14:46:06+00:00): Hi Leo, bedankt voor je bericht. Ik heb het aangepast
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pitscheplatsch (2025-07-23 07:22:51+00:00): 👎 (Partly) Reverted due to lack of response from the original contributor by https://osm.org/changeset/169327278
NeisBot (2025-07-21 06:24:39+00:00): Hello, welcome and thank you for your contribution to OSM!

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pitscheplatsch (2025-07-23 07:23:22+00:00): 👎 (Partly) Reverted due to lack of response from the original contributor by https://osm.org/changeset/169327292
user_5359 (2025-07-21 09:40:49+00:00): Welcome to OSM! Please be careful! You move three nodes over 100 meters crossing other highways and buildings! I move this three nodes back to the original position.
If you need help, You are welcome!
klik (2025-07-25 15:02:20+00:00): Hallo jengelh,
ich bin nicht sicher ob Deine Änderungen hier wirklich eine Verbesserung darstellt.

Die vorherige Version mit area=yes am geschlossenen highway ergab eine Fläche über die auch geroutet werden kann, zum beispiel zum Eingang des Mastes. 
Deine Version beschreibt nur noch eine extrem verbreiterte Straße, die keine Verbindung zur Tür mehr hat. 
Ich bin nicht sicher, ob dies wirklich Deine Absicht war.

Gruß
klik
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jengelh (2025-07-25 16:42:26+00:00): Eine Verbindung zur Tür gabs auch vorher nicht.
klik (2025-07-25 16:54:05+00:00): Das war ja auch nur ein mögliches Beispiel.
Aus meiner Sicht ist das ein Platz,neben dem Weg, auf dem jeglicher Verkehr sich frei bewegen kann, dass heißt dann in OSM highway=* mit area=yes. Mit area=highway beschreibt man die Fläche eines Weges, die ist hier dann sehr groß und sehr unsymmetrisch.
Ich sehe diese Flächen nicht als Teil des Weges, aber das war nur eine Anregung mal drüber nachzudenken, ein absolut richtig oder falsch  ist hier sicher nicht möglich.
klik (2025-07-25 16:59:20+00:00): Was mir noch einfällt, wenn Du weiterhin bei area:higway=* bleiben magst, dann aber bitte mir gemeinsamen Punkten des highway mit der area.
fs_LT (2025-08-28 12:24:41+00:00): wozu? es gibt doch eine schöne Relation für das Museum ...
fortera_au (2025-08-01 23:46:50+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 169841222, 169841249, 169841240, 169841260, 169841200, 169841256, 169841237, 169841215, 169841214, 169841228, 169841245, 169841232 where the changeset comment is: DWG revert: incompatible source
Hidden Mountain (2025-07-21 08:05:13+00:00): Ну это вы загнули конечно, уклон 70% встречается на уже категорийных маршрутах. А на этом участке профиль высоты на ресурсе накарте.ми показывает такое: Avg / Max ascent inclination:	25 / 27°. Думаю лучше убрать противоречивую информацию с карты, или докажите обратное.
Hidden Mountain (2025-07-21 08:06:08+00:00): Ой, пардон, это коммент для другого пакета правок.
NorthCrab_upload (2025-07-21 07:30:53+00:00): Zauważyłem, że Twoja zmiana zawiera niepoprawne adresy. Przygotowałem listę obiektów do poprawy oraz dodatkowe informacje:

Adres jest niekompletny, brakuje informacji o nazwie ulicy. Jeśli adres ma nazwę ulicy, dodaj ją w addr:street. Jeśli nie, zamień addr:city na addr:place - tak oznaczamy adresy bez ulic.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1416246736

Dokumentacja adresów (po polsku):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pl:Key:addr:*

W razie problemów lub pytań, proszę pisać. Chętnie pomogę.
Pozdrawiam! 🦀
evgenykatyshev (2025-07-23 13:38:00+00:00): Innacurate edit with deletetion existed objects based only on iD validator without any validation on the ground or local knowledge. To be reverted.
evgenykatyshev (2025-07-23 14:18:15+00:00): Reverted https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/169345998
flo2154 (2025-07-22 07:08:28+00:00): Gibt es die Hausnummer 17 dann gar nicht? Oder ist die Garage doch das direkt angrenzende "building=yes"?
MichaelFS (2025-07-26 18:01:47+00:00): Hallo flo2154,

Danke für die Nachricht. Ich habe das in JOSM mit Luftbild angeschaut und vermute, dass die Trennung zwischen Gebäude und Garage nicht korrekt ist. Nach Luftbild mit BING wäre der nördliche "Wurmfortsatz" die Garage, das südliche Polygon das Wohnhaus.

Örtlich prüfen kann ich das zur Zeit nicht, habe aber erst mal die "17" hinzugefügt; das erscheint mir richtiger als alles andere ...
flo2154 (2025-07-27 10:49:39+00:00): Hmm das könnte sein. Danke dass du Nr. 17 erstmal wieder hinzugefügt hast (https://osm.org/changeset/169520751), das kann man dann nochmal irgendwann aufräumen.
MichaelFS (2025-07-27 16:28:17+00:00): Danke Dir!
JJIglesias (2025-07-21 19:01:49+00:00): If I may, I will suggest to chance from Fixme tag to Description Tag. Nice to have a little history depicted.
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JJ
wbecker123 (2025-07-21 20:03:55+00:00): I used a fixme tag because I haven't been there for 30 years and I cannot check from the other side of the world if there is still a well under that building. In former times, however, this project was under the supervision of the archbishop of Sucre. Perhaps his office has more information.