piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
mapcontroller (2026-05-15 14:56:29+00:00): Il paragone con i siti archeologici all’aperto secondo me non è del tutto calzante. In quel caso si tratta di aree esterne, spesso vincolate e strutturalmente accessibili al pubblico, anche se su proprietà privata.
Qui invece parliamo di un’unità immobiliare residenziale (A/2), inserita in un edificio privato, la cui fruizione avviene su modalità limitate e non assimilabili a una normale apertura museale stabile.
Inoltre, le norme per l’apertura al pubblico esistono anche per motivi di sicurezza e accessibilità; proprio per questo faccio fatica a considerare equivalente a un museo una visita organizzata informalmente all’interno di un appartamento privato.
Il punto per me non è il valore culturale del luogo, ma la sua classificazione in termini di accessibilità e struttura gestionale secondo i criteri OSM.
In altre parole, la presenza di visite occasionali non è sufficiente, a mio avviso, a equipararlo a un museo nel senso usuale del tagging tourism=museum.
mapcontroller (2026-05-15 15:48:17+00:00): Da quanto emerge, l’accesso avviene su prenotazione occasionale e non secondo un sistema di apertura stabile o continuativo. Questo elemento rafforza ulteriormente il mio dubbio sull’applicazione di tourism=museum, che in OSM generalmente implica una funzione museale strutturata e riconoscibile anche sul piano operativo.
MarcoR (2026-05-15 19:46:29+00:00): La fruizione è limitata nel tempo e occasionale ma è continuativa anche perché è l'unico utilizzo dell'appartamento che non può essere e non è la residenza di nessuno.

Nella discussione che ho avviato con la comunità italiana è emerso che il fatto che l'appartamento sia situato in un  edificio residenziale e privato non toglie che possa essere classificato come museo anche se con i dovuti tag che ne descrivano la sua peculiarità.

La discussione è pubblica e puoi partecipare anche te utilizzando lo stesso account OSM che stai usando adesso andando su : https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/come-mappare-casa-natale-di-amedeo-modigliani/143811

Io rimango dell'idea che se un oggetto:

1) Si trova in un luogo chiuso;
2) può essere visitato anche in maniera molto occasionale o mediante prenotazione telefonica/via email;
3) contiene oggetti storici o repliche di essi associati ad una persona/evento storico/argomento scientifico;
4) offre una guida turistica che accompagna i visitatori

allora quest'oggetto è un museo, sia su OpenStreetMap che in qualsiasi altro contesto.

Non credo spetti al mappatore o al visitatore occuparsi di questioni legate alla proprietà privata dell'immobile, né di eventuali problemi di sicurezza o accessibilità. Di questo dovrebbe semmai farsi carico l'amministrazione locale che ne consente l'accesso a terzi.
mapcontroller (2026-05-16 09:04:06+00:00): Vorrei essere chiaro sul punto centrale: qui non siamo davanti a una struttura museale.
Non si tratta di un museo formalmente istituito né di uno spazio con accesso pubblico libero o organizzato in modo stabile. Non risulta infatti alcuna evidenza che l’attività sia registrata o autorizzata come museo aperto al pubblico. L’accesso avviene in modo limitato e non strutturato solo su prenotazione, all’interno di un appartamento privato situato in un edificio residenziale, con passaggio attraverso spazi privati condominiali non destinati a uso pubblico.
Non risultano inoltre evidenze che la struttura sia riconosciuta come museo nei registri ufficiali del Ministero della Cultura né nei sistemi museali regionali delle “case della memoria”. Anche le fonti citate risultano datate o non coerenti con lo stato attuale del luogo.
In queste condizioni non vedo basi per l’utilizzo di tourism=museum, che in OSM descrive strutture museali effettivamente istituite e fruibili come tali.

La presenza di materiali espositivi o contenuti commemorativi non è sufficiente a trasformare un appartamento privato con accesso limitato in un museo ai fini del tagging.

Per una descrizione corretta e verificabile sul terreno ritengo più appropriato historic=memorial se si vuole enfatizzare l’aspetto commemorativo.
MarcoR (2026-05-16 11:00:12+00:00): Sei stato molto chiaro in merito alla tua idea però credo che si stia ripetendo sempre gli stessi concetti senza venirne a capo.

Per me è un museo perché ha tutte le caratteristiche tipiche di un museo con le dovute limitazioni che vanno descritte utilizzando altri tag.

Se un visitatore entra in un luogo insieme ad una guida turistica si dà per scontato che tale visita goda di tutte le autorizzazioni e le condizioni necessarie affinché possa essere svolta in sicurezza.  Gli " con passaggio attraverso spazi privati condominiali non destinati a uso pubblico" possono evidentemente essere usati dal pubblico altrimenti non si potrebbe visitare la casa museo cosa che io ho fatto personalmente. Non ho ravvisato neanche la presenza di cartelli che indicassero le limitazioni di cui parli.

Il fatto poi che non sia presente in alcuni elenchi dei musei secondo me lascia il tempo che trova dato che questi elenchi sono spesso datati e incompleti e sicuramente non possono essere utilizzati per concludere cosa sia e cosa non sia un museo.

Oggi per curiosità ho controllato in varie mappe online e la casa, quando presente, è sempre indicata come museo.

Tra l'altro su "Il Tirreno" di oggi è pubblicata la notizia che la casa in oggetto sarà visitabile anche oggi 16 maggio…

Cosa serve di più per dire che si tratta di una "Casa museo"?
luschi (2026-05-16 18:08:21+00:00): Ciao mapcontroller,      
questa è la seconda volta che elimini tutti i dati relativi a questo PDI da quando MarcoR ti ha contattato tre mesi fa.       
Non è così che lavoriamo qui su OSM! OSM è un progetto comunitario e non partecipiamo a questo tipo di "guerre di modifiche" che hai iniziato.       
A mio avviso, questo "museo" esiste davvero ed è stato originariamente aggiunto da MarcoR 14 anni fa, includendo tutti i dettagli necessari due anni fa.       
Ho ora annullato questa modifica e ti prego di non toccare più questo PDI.      

Cordiali saluti      
luschi
bxl-forever (2026-05-13 09:15:15+00:00): Hello,

Please do NOT change buildings to transform them into your business.
If you do this, you will be seen as a vandal.

You will observe that this building had a restaurant, mapped as a simple node inside the building area. It looks like this restaurant is gone, and this is now the locksmith business.  We re-used the node for your business instead of creating a giant locksmith around a restaurant.

I see that you applied the same spamming technique for other edits, where you changed entire buildings, perhaps in an attempt to fool map users and make your business stand out.  I will try to repair your other edits.  Please do not do this again.
Business Rocket (2026-05-13 09:28:43+00:00): Hello, 

I'm truly sorry for the unintentional error. That's why I requested a review by an expert.

I didn't understand how to add a locksmith business establishment to the legal address without damaging the building.

Could you please provide me with the correct procedure to avoid making this mistake again? 

Thank you in advance for your help.
Business Rocket (2026-05-13 09:32:05+00:00): The corrections no longer reflect the legal information for the company and its establishments. Here is the official list from the ECB. How can I obtain the correct business name and address?
Business Rocket (2026-05-13 09:33:03+00:00): https://kbopub.economie.fgov.be/kbopub/vestiginglijst.html?ondernemingsnummer=1015503490
bxl-forever (2026-05-13 09:52:50+00:00): Thanks for the reply.

For small businesses, the easiest solution is like this:

* Create a simple point somewhere inside the building.
* Add the name of the business, a proper category (e.g., shop=locksmith), possibly a website or opening hours
* Do not touch addresses, those are always calculated automatically.

And in this particular case, if Belock has replaced the restaurant, the best way to proceed is to erase data on the existing point and replace it with the data about your business.

Don’t worry, we all make mistakes.

By the way, the full name has been restored (even if if feels strange that your client used a monolingual French name for a business that operates in Brussels.  It correctly shows as Belock - Serrurier Bruxelles now.  The main map layer takes a few hours to refresh, you should see the changes very soon.)
RaphaelPasloin (2026-05-13 09:53:32+00:00): @Business Rocket : Simply add it on a node without adding address, OSM is a geographical database, the address is computed.

If it replace the former shop you can change it , if not add a new node. That being said, i just saw the changeset but i was redacting a node to make a survey, i'm very surpised in that case that a company can open 4 locksmith in same day , around the country.

Can you confirm that it's replace the former restaurant ? If i go there i will at least find a business name on the post box ? 

Looks like SEO spam indexing begin another level by directly indexing in KBO and claiming it's the name. For information OSM is based on ground fact not on legal data.

Have a good day,
Raphael
Business Rocket (2026-05-13 10:52:10+00:00): Thank you for your replies.

To be transparent, I want to clarify that I am a communications agency and I work for my clients. They are selected for their professionalism and honest work. I do not condone spam or scams that put users at risk.


Regarding the BELOCK sign:

No, the knot does not replace the restaurant. It is a postal address for the home delivery service (SAB).

Yes, each address has an official A4 plexiglass sign for the establishment, displaying all the required legal information such as VAT number, Business Unit number, phone number, website, and email. I can provide photos of the building facades if needed.

The brand and its four locations have existed since 2018 under the company ELECOM TECHNICS SRL and were acquired by BELOCK SRL on October 24, 2024, registered with the BCE/KBO.

Our website accurately reflects the services we offer and is transparent. All legal information is available. The photos and videos are genuine. And all our reviews are real customer testimonials.

The brand is also registered as a trademark in the Benelux countries, and I index official information on maps, directories, and in the JSON data on our local service pages.

I want to emphasize in good faith that the intention is not to engage in SEO spam at all. Rather, it is to defend our brand against the practices of competitors who create more than 20 KBO listings or other similar sites... and even go so far as to impersonate and use our brand to boost their search engine rankings.

Thank you again for your support.

Have a good day.
Philippe
NorthCrab_upload (2026-05-13 08:21:17+00:00): Zauważyłem, że Twoja zmiana zawiera niepoprawne adresy. Przygotowałem listę obiektów do poprawy oraz dodatkowe informacje:

Klucz addr:place oznacza brak nazwy ulicy. Kombinacja z addr:street (który definiuje nazwę ulicy) jest błędna.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/169064064

Pozdrawiam! 🦀
WieKo68 (2026-05-14 13:06:05+00:00): poprawiono
deflockBR (2026-05-14 14:34:13+00:00): what exactly was the issue here? Ive just started with OSM and and working on documenting all flock cameras possible. I believe i set this to have someone review as it was my first submission, but would like to be able to avoid that step if possible.
mueschel (2026-05-14 14:41:21+00:00): Hi,
you added all the correct tags, but also added 
"surveillance type"  = 	"ALPR surveillance=public"

- just a copy of two tags combined into one, that's all what I removed. Copy and pasting tags doesn't always do what you expect it to do.
deflockBR (2026-05-14 14:45:47+00:00): actually i think i entered all those manually, before i figured out copy and pasting tags. Everything else looks good though? i recently placed one on south carrollton ave a few miles away if you wanna check it but im pretty sure im doing them right now.
deflockBR (2026-05-14 14:47:10+00:00): also thank you for your attention to the issue
mueschel (2026-05-14 14:54:50+00:00): Just looked through all your edits: 

- phone numbers should be in international format +1-234-123-235, but this one already got fixed

- https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1512628849
on parking aisles "parking:both=lane" is not used - this is used for main streets which allow parking on the street.

everything else looks fine.
deflockBR (2026-05-14 15:04:23+00:00): awesome, i appreciate your feedback, pretty sure im getting a handle on all this, theres plenty of edits to make in this area so im gonna try and stay busy around here while i can!
eggie (2026-05-13 09:01:44+00:00): Dag frox..

Dan toevoegen amenity=school
..name = .....  de naam van school.
Je ziet anders niets op de kaart.
Mvg,
eggie
eggie (2026-05-13 09:31:10+00:00): Aangepast als bovenstaand
CTRL-F5 voor het effect te versnellen.

MVG
eggie
Strubbl (2026-05-13 08:26:46+00:00): neue Gebäude nach Luftbild
Placio74 (2026-05-13 08:36:50+00:00): pomyłka
Adikso (2026-05-13 21:17:03+00:00): Wycofano

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/182621222
NorthCrab_upload (2026-05-13 08:41:31+00:00): Zauważyłem, że Twoja zmiana zawiera niepoprawne adresy. Przygotowałem listę obiektów do poprawy oraz dodatkowe informacje:

Klucz addr:place oznacza brak nazwy ulicy. Kombinacja z addr:street (który definiuje nazwę ulicy) jest błędna.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/245162386

Pozdrawiam! 🦀
WieKo68 (2026-05-14 13:05:13+00:00): poprawiono
NieWnen (2026-05-13 18:07:52+00:00): Tutaj już był dodany budynek.

Został w tej zmianie błędnie zduplikowany.
CAM-Gerlach_Repair (2026-06-16 10:48:24+00:00): Cleaned up remaining SEO spam and other tagging for POI in changeset 184175498

https://osm.org/changeset/184175498
eggie (2026-05-13 09:37:50+00:00): Welkom bij OpenStreetMap. Ik heb een uitgebreid welkomstbericht met wat handige tips en links gestuurd als privebericht.
Feedback   Ik heb de hoofdtag amenity=charging_station toegevoegd. Je ziet anders niets op de kaart.
MVG,
Eggie
Namens de OSM Community
Sur_Mer (2026-05-13 09:48:55+00:00): Bedankt Eggie. Ik zal volgende keer rekening houden met hoofdtag. groet
eggie (2026-05-13 09:53:54+00:00): Dat charging point is bedoeld voor de losse palen.
Bij 'ons'is het er vaak maar één met twee aansluitingen.
Zo'n charging point kun je bij meer palen dan als vlak invoeren en de losse palen dan daarin zetten.
Renderen doen ze dan nog steeds niet, maar dan klopt de data.
Paar keer ctrl-f5.. dan zul je het wel zien renderen als laadpaal. 
Mapse,
eggie
NorthCrab_upload (2026-05-13 09:21:28+00:00): 🗺️ Witaj na OpenStreetMap!

Zauważyłem, że Twoja zmiana zawiera nadmiarowe informacje. Przygotowałem listę obiektów do poprawy oraz dodatkowe informacje:

Paczkomat nie powinien mieć nazwy. Nazwa nadawana jest automatycznie, na podstawie wartości brand. Opcjonalnie, numer identyfikacyjny może być przekazany w polu ref.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13823827465

Dokumentacja paczkomatów (po polsku):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pl:Tag:amenity%3Dparcel_locker

W razie problemów lub pytań, proszę pisać. Chętnie pomogę.
Pozdrawiam! 🦀
小智智 (2026-07-16 21:28:32+00:00): Can you please be careful when drawing roads so that it doesn't join with underground features please?
RahilPasha (2026-07-20 11:29:19+00:00): Hi,
 I acknowledge and thank you for the feedback.
SekeRob (2026-05-13 19:20:58+00:00): Absolutely not!. This tag was meant to be indicating there is no center island apron to help trucks/buses to navigate narrow roundabouts. Many here have and are sloped. Meanwhile found the tag actually goes on the central island WHEN THERE IS as kerb=truck_apron. A tag to indicate there's none was not ATYL'd yet.
mueschel (2026-05-14 07:49:25+00:00): ... and that's why tags need to be documented. 

The feature you describe has lots of similarities with a shoulder and I propose to tag it using shoulder:left = none
SekeRob (2026-05-14 08:32:21+00:00): Not thought of the shoulder solution on the roundabout way itself. Do truck navs ingest that 'documented'? The wiki only considers these as breakdown lanes, used here a lot as unofficial fast track cycling lane along substantial, roads that don't have a bicycle=no signage. They have solid white line divider to prohibit parking
mueschel (2026-05-14 09:02:54+00:00): I don't know which tools actually take into account this detailed tagging, but I'd assume a good tool should add shoulders to the width of the street for turning purposes.

The wiki indeed focuses a bit on breakdown lanes, but how they may be used varies a lot between countries. E.g. in DE bicycles are explicitly allowed to use them.
martinst (2026-06-07 14:50:56+00:00): Wieso hast Du Way 200718545 zu tracktype=grade1 geändert? Das passt nicht zu surface=fine_gravel und im Luftbild schauts nach grade3 aus.
OpenGreenStreet (2026-06-07 15:21:52+00:00): Sorry, tut mir leid, dann habe ich mich wahrscheinlich vertan. Kann mich nur noch erinnern dort gewesen zu sein. Ich komme dort leider auch nicht demnächst vorbei. Ändere es gerne, wie Du es für richtig hältst.
martinst (2026-06-07 19:10:46+00:00): Geändert zu grade3 in Changeset: 183796178
mikita_paloika (2026-05-15 11:10:03+00:00): Hello Tigerus!

Welcome to OpenStreetMap mapping. I noticed your recent edits to some shops (nodes 11810844669 and 12731924401) and wanted to offer some friendly advice on tagging:

The name tag: This should only contain the official name of the place (e.g., "Alicia MK"). Please avoid putting opening hours, descriptions, or question marks in the name field. For opening hours, we use the opening_hours tag.

Descriptions: Details like "with green glass" or "second floor" are better suited for the description tags rather than the name.

Verifiability: OSM data should be verifiable. If you are unsure about a name (using "??"), it's better to leave it out or use a fixme tag until it can be confirmed.

You can find more info on best practices here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice

Could you please clarify your sources for these details or let us know if you need help adjusting the tags?

Thank you for contributing!

Best regards,
Mikita
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            Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/182591258
Borisy (2026-05-22 07:32:42+00:00): Hi mueschel,

Please do not delete the hashtag #GRMA and the comment we posted, as this allows us (the local community) to monitor the quality of contributions to this field data collection project.

To my knowledge, the use of hashtags in comments is common practice and not prohibited. Or have there been some updates we're unaware of?
mueschel (2026-05-22 07:39:15+00:00): My changeset comment wasn't quite right, there were no hashtags or comments, but a "grma_project = yes" tag.

The hashtags of projects are usually added in the tags of the changeset, but not on individual objects. This was different in the first years of OSM, but is common practice since more than a decade.
Borisy (2026-05-22 07:52:15+00:00): Oui mais nous avons besoin de cet attribut "grma_project=yes" pour compter les bâtiments individuels et les noeuds concernés par le projet (côté statistique). Donc il ne faudrait pas supprimer aussi ce tag s'il vous plaît
Borisy (2026-05-22 07:53:54+00:00): Une page Wiki sera ouverte ultérieurement pour permettre à toute la communauté OSM de suivre les contributions
Borisy (2026-05-22 07:57:02+00:00): On ne peut pas compter les bâtiments individuels au sein d'un groupe de modifications qui pourraient comporter d'autres éléments modifiés que du bâtiment
mueschel (2026-05-22 08:00:50+00:00): I think there's something mixed up. 
There were just 3 objects with this tag. I guess you project is slightly larger than that.
Borisy (2026-05-22 08:10:23+00:00): Les contributeurs locaux travaillant sur le projet sont en train d'envoyer au fur et à mesure les données sur OSM et nous nous assurons que les prochaines informations ne soient pas supprimés sinon nos statistiques seront faussées, et les bâtiments concernés ne seront pas exhaustivement contrôlés
mueschel (2026-05-22 08:13:47+00:00): This should be done via hashtags in the changeset and not by tags on individual objects. At least, this is how many other teams do it.
Borisy (2026-05-22 08:16:23+00:00): Et vous vous avez supprimé le hashtag du changeset. Je ne comprends pas où vous voulez en venir?
mueschel (2026-05-22 08:19:46+00:00): No, nobody can do that. A hashtag or any other tag on the changeset can never be changed again.
MapperrZPolski (2026-05-13 13:07:35+00:00): prosze, nie oznaczaj w taki sposób tak dużego osiedla, ten sposób tagowania zostawmy dla małych osiedli (coś jak Kalina, czy Nowa Leśna)
MapperrZPolski (2026-05-24 08:07:46+00:00): Czemu nie reagujesz na komentarze?
mikita_paloika (2026-05-15 11:15:58+00:00): Hello Sergosc!

Thank you for contributing to OpenStreetMap. I noticed your edit on way 1512939051 and wanted to clarify a few things regarding OSM standards:

The name tag: In OSM, the name tag is strictly for the official or common name of a feature (e.g., "City Hall" or "Central Park"). It should not be used for personal notes or descriptions like "Здесь живёт ДИК" (Here lives DIK). Personal information or local "labels" that aren't visible on a signpost are generally not mapped.

Tagging error: You used buiding:level (with a typo). The correct key is building:levels.

Privacy and Verifiability: Please remember that OSM is a public map. Adding names of residents can raise privacy concerns and usually cannot be verified by other mappers.

Could you please clarify if "ДИК" is an official name of a public organization or if this was intended as a personal note? If it's a private residence, it's best to remove the name tag entirely.

You can check out our guidelines here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice

Happy mapping!

Best regards,
Mikita
eggie (2026-05-13 09:50:06+00:00): Dag ronkdonk ,
Op 32 zou zomaar kunnen, maarrrrrr.. 
Adressen kunnen niet zomaar veranderen.
Het zal dan plots 2x voorkomen en een ander mist in de database van OSM. 
Ik heb het voorgaande adres nr 31 teruggezet.
MVG
eggie
ronkdonk (2026-05-14 09:58:58+00:00): Ha eggie,
Scherp opgemerkt. Ik zal het meenemen voor de volgende keer. Begrijp ik goed dat de adressen los staan van de etablissementen die er gevestigd zijn (zoals in dit geval een NYP?) Ze geven zelf namelijk an gevestigd te zijn op nummer 32. 

Dank voor de tip en ik hoor graag!

Gr,
ronkdonk
eggie (2026-05-14 10:10:23+00:00): Hoi..Alle adresnodes zijn directe import vanuit de BAG net als de gebouwen.
Wij taggen dan bij op die bestaande adresnodes. Soms gaat dat fout en dan is verbeteren prima. Wel dan zorgen dat de adresnodes ongemoeid blijven. 
In OSM Nederland gebruiken we die nodes.
Elders kan het weer anders zijn. Soms staan bedrijven nog verkeerd, want we zijn pas later met import begonnen.
Mapse,
eggie
kadiwa (2026-05-13 10:12:44+00:00): Ich bin auch offen für einen anderen highway-Wert (wie residential + motor_vehicle=no), falls path als unpassend empfunden wird. Aber highway=cycleway ist nun wirklich unpassend, es weist ja nichts vor Ort darauf hin, dass der Wegabschnitt spezifisch für den Radverkehr vorgesehen ist.
bxl-forever (2026-05-14 23:59:49+00:00): Bonjour,

Voici un avis sur la modification.

Ajouter le chemin manquant, oui c’est utile et votre ajout est correct.

Par contre, erreur quand vous avez changé la grande zone landuse pour qu'elle devienne elle-même un chemin (highway=path). J'ai restauré l'ancienne version.
ADAC Touristische InfoSysteme (2026-05-18 13:52:42+00:00): You changed the node for Okara to an advertising_agency. I have reverted your changes.
Robot8A (2026-05-14 09:41:02+00:00): Buenas SerchoHJ,
En esta edición has tocado algunas vías en Cantabria, y otras en Aragón, creando una edición bastante extensa en el terreno, pero con dos núcleos muy separados. Te recomiendo en un futuro separar la edición en dos, para que quede más claro, y no se cree un área tan grande en la edición.
Saludos
SerchoHJ (2026-05-18 04:40:54+00:00): Normalmente lo hago como tú dices, pero esta vez se me pasó/no lo tuve en cuenta.
Me fijaré para las siguientes.
Un saludo.