piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
eggie (2023-07-07 17:50:30+00:00): Svp geen adressen gaan toevoegen aan gebouwomtrekken van woningen.
MVG
eggie
eggie (2023-07-07 17:45:22+00:00): Beste Omied/... Svp niet zomaar de tagging van andere mappers gaan verwijderen. 
Een park is een functie... landuse=grass is wat je ziet..  
Ik zet de tagging even terug. Je zou ook de bomen kunnen bijtaggen.

MVG
eggie
OmiedC (2023-07-08 10:20:50+00:00): Hallo Eggie,
Het klopt alleen niet: dit is juist een park met juist verschillende soorten vegetatie dan alleen gras. Vandaar gecorrigeerd.
OmiedC (2023-07-08 10:23:48+00:00): Zie ook de bijbehorende wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NL:Tag:landuse=grass?uselang=nl
eggie (2023-07-08 10:35:28+00:00): Eigenlijk gebruiken we leisure=park als een losse transparante deken over de verschillende landuse en evt water heen.
leisure=park is dan de functie met de naam.
MVG
eggie
eggie (2023-07-08 10:51:11+00:00): Hier even een voorbeeld van verschillende landuse en water met één leisure=park met naam
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/51.80552/4.66665
Percherie (2023-07-08 15:54:15+00:00): Bonjour,


Je viens de voir ta modification concernant la ligne 10.
Ce n'est pas la première fois que je vois un contributeur qui préfère utiliser l'opérateur "Keolis Narbonne" au lieu de "Keolis"

Il existe bien officiellement "Keolis Aude" mais pas spécifiquement pour Narbonne.
C'est pour cela que je préfère utiliser le nom officiel de l'opérateur qui est "Keolis".
A tu vu ma note sur les relations ? Elle renvoi vers la page de suivi des transports de Narbonne http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Narbonne/Transports_en_commun
MarcoR (2023-07-08 06:40:57+00:00): Ciao e benvenuta/o su OpenStreetMap!

I nomi in generale si scrivono con la prima lettera maiuscola e la restante parte in minuscolo. 
Di cosa si occupa la ditta? Se mappi solo il nome non il dato ha poco significato.

Due tag generici che dicono un po' di più sono:
1) office=company per un'azienda generica
oppure
2) man_made=works per un'industria manifatturiera generica
però spesso esistono tag più appropriati.

Buon mapping,
Marco.
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murble (2024-07-04 18:58:40+00:00): Hi just looking at this, you appear to have added the pavement on the wrong side of the road, i have also added a map note https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4319263 you can confirm the wrongness here with streetside
eggie (2023-07-07 15:15:40+00:00): Dag OmiedC

Je hoeft geen motor_vehicle=yes te taggen op reguliere wegen 

Kijk je nog even..
eggie
eggie (2023-07-07 17:43:06+00:00): motor_vehicle yes heb ik weer verwijkderd. Wat is je bron dat hier ruiters zijn toegestaan? 

MVG
eggie
OmiedC (2023-07-08 10:31:59+00:00): Hallo Eggie,
Iemand had bij één van de wegdelen expliciet aangegeven dat ruiters niet zijn toegestaan en dat is hier simpelweg niet het geval. Officieel (wettelijk) horen ruiters op de rijbaan en dat kan hier ook veilig.
eggie (2023-07-08 10:41:30+00:00): Oke....  maar horse=yes is gewoon default. Dat hoef je niet toe te voegen. 

We taggen dus alleen de weggebruikers die er niet mogen komen.  Zoals hier foot=no en bicycle=no
Ik weet het... OSM is een soort rijstebrij in het begin.
Veel plezier met mappen. 
Het paard had ik hier ook verwijderd, maar het routeert dus gewoon voor ruiters. 
eggie
Argbjorn (2023-07-07 16:50:42+00:00): Hi, UStrannik! I reverted your changeset. OSM doesn't purpose for objects like this
Glassman (2023-07-08 15:08:14+00:00): #TIP: we don't use descriptive names such as Private Property. Can you update this path?
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burrscurr (2023-07-07 15:35:57+00:00): Themenstadtplan Dresden kann aus rechtlichen Gründen nicht verwendet werden (siehe https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dresden#N.C3.BCtzliche_Informationen_und_Werkzeuge)

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/138234281
aTarom (2023-07-27 19:14:48+00:00): Hola, puedes revisar este elemento
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1063000963/history
"opening_hours"=""Hay q saltar la valla""
no parece muy apropiado para un mapa serio como el que se pretende tener, si se trata de un descuido por utilizar StreetComplete y puedes mirarte la wiki sobre "disused:*" te lo agradecería
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:disused:*
Saludos
user_18023081 (2023-07-07 14:58:18+00:00): sources: connaissances locales, PICC, vérif terrain (oublié de le préciser sur JOSM)

sources: local knowledge, PICC, survey (forgot to specify on josm)
borishag (2023-07-10 08:41:31+00:00): ICI PARIS XL, Hi, you removed the original node 4937991898 with all the shop specific content. Can you please restore this information?
user_18023081 (2023-07-12 22:52:53+00:00): Tell me you work for a company without telling me you work for a company...
Glassman (2023-07-08 15:16:21+00:00): #TIP: a footway is much like what we'd call a sidewalk in the US. OSM started in England so we use British English tags and road classifications.
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Kai Johnson (2023-07-12 15:24:55+00:00): I am restoring the geological=endorheic_lake tag as the use of the lake=* tag is not documented and the values in use are not consistent.
Fizzie-DWG (2023-12-21 04:57:46+00:00): DWG revert

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/145355368
Baloo Uriza (2024-12-06 16:53:11+00:00): Not sure why you changed foot and bicycle from designated to yes, since designated means "yes, AND it's officially signed for this mode".
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joel56dt (2024-04-19 16:47:56+00:00): Hi Enderbyte99,
Adding such a large polygon is difficult to edit and is incorrect since it covers many areas that are not scrub. Is there a reason you added a single large polygon and not individual areas that a specifically scrub?

Thanks,
joel56dt
Jan Olieslagers (2023-07-08 08:52:35+00:00): Quite incorrect way of mapping... please check wiki about how to map a model aerodrome, https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sport%3Dmodel_aerodrome and others more
Antonio Eugenio Burriel (2023-07-08 10:00:13+00:00): Hello Jan,

thank you for your feedback & your correction without discussion.

Do you really believe two small 85 x 3.5 & 19 x 1.5 meter ground areas covered with black nylon fabric qualify as a runway? Yeah, I guess mine is "quite incorrect way of mapping"...

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:aeroway%3Drunway
"A runway is a defined rectangular area on a land aerodrome (aeroway=aerodrome) prepared for the landing and take-off of aeroplanes."

Have you checked the definition of aeroway=airstrip?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:aeroway%3Dairstrip
"The aeroway=airstrip key is used to identify a place such as a farm field, hill slope or similar reasonably flat area where light aircraft can land and take off from, which does not have regularly scheduled service and has no permanent infrastructure such as terminal buildings. Airstrips are often limited to a particular type of aircraft."

Have you ever checked which kind of permanent installations this place has?
Jan Olieslagers (2023-07-08 10:41:36+00:00): Greetings, and thanks for quick reply.
* yes, those two entries you created definitely are runways, however diminutive and simplistic.
* in no case can "aeroway=airstrip" be an alternative for "aeroway=runway"; it can be and is used as an alternative for "aeroway=aerodrome".  For examples of conventionally mapped airstrips, see https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/118617414 or https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/11033866500
As for the present location, it is obviously a field for R/C model aircraft, though with unusually little facilities; in most of Spain, most offer a club house, or at least a sunroof. Still, it remains a modeller's field, and we have a documented practice for mapping those in OSM.
Thanks again, and my kindest regards from Portugal!
Jan Olieslagers (2023-07-08 10:44:57+00:00): Also: for an example of a neatly mapped modellers' field, could look at https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/668486319 
Good luck!
Antonio Eugenio Burriel (2023-07-08 18:00:23+00:00): Thank you for your constructive explanation, Jan,

I read the wiki too quickly and my mistake was thinking airstrip applied to ways.

I'm pushing a few improvements in the model aerodrome, feel free to review.
Jan Olieslagers (2023-07-08 18:12:11+00:00): Ah, so nice to come to concensus! The most welcome thing to do, if you can manage, is to define the area of the modellers field, probably it is fenced off? Then tag it with "leisure=pitch" and "sport=model_aerodrome" and optionally a referenced name, and a website for the operating club.

On a sidenote, let me apologise for not answering in your Catala language, I have recently moved from Belgium to Portugal and have my hands and my old mind more than occupied with learning that nice but somewhat queer language. But the Catalan sake has its supporters in Belgium (especially in the North) and be assured am I one!
Antonio Eugenio Burriel (2023-07-09 18:49:17+00:00): No worries about the language Jan,

I'm quite fluent in English and enjoy learning languages too!
mavl (2023-07-15 17:02:37+00:00): This changeset was redacted. Reason: incompatible source.
eggie (2023-07-07 18:00:14+00:00): Svp geen adressen toevoegen. Er is immers een adresnode.
MVG
eggie
eggie (2023-07-07 17:58:46+00:00): Dag Wolter..
De school staat nu dubbel in OSM.
Maak een keuze. Of het vlak, adresnode of het gebouw. 
Ik pas even wat aan. Op het vlak staat college...   Dat zal niet kloppen. (tags voorgaande mapper) Aoc's en ROC's zijn college.

MVG
eggie
WoltervdV (2023-09-29 11:17:04+00:00): In het vlak staan nog steeds de (verkeerde) adres gegevens en het gebouwtype 'college'. Kan ik dat dan gewoon verwijderen?
eggie (2023-09-29 11:31:27+00:00): Je kunt het gewoon aanpassen.
De adresgegevens horen eigenlijk alleen op de adresnodes.
Maar scholen zijn wel een uitzondering. Daar kun je alle gegevens ook op het grote vlak zetten amenity=school. Dus dat geel rendert op de kaart.
Tja en één van die adressen (op het gebouw)  en de adresnode klopt niet.
Het adres op de gebouwomtrek beter verwijderen en de adresnode even controleren. 
Mapse
eggie
silversurfer83 (2023-07-07 17:21:14+00:00): Hi :)

warum hast du denn aus https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/685444759 den Garagen wieder einfach nur Gebäude gemacht? (building=yes statt building=garages)
Du gibst leider keine Quelle für deine Änderung an, daher würde es mich schon interessieren

grüße
silversurfer83
silversurfer83 (2023-07-14 07:36:32+00:00): Hi
hast du meine Frage registriert?
user_9981435 (2023-07-14 13:01:03+00:00): Guten Tag,
Sie haben vollkommen Recht.
Ich korrigiere das soeben.
silversurfer83 (2023-07-14 13:41:33+00:00): Danke 😊
Myazyk (2023-08-20 13:13:13+00:00): Нарешті почали позначати нудистські пляжі
Браво!
silversurfer83 (2023-07-07 17:04:25+00:00): Hello solenoid jam,

you seem to have an interesting project running. I'd like to point out a few things:

- it would be very nice of you to use english comments when working all over the globe (if only for this reason: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_languages_by_total_number_of_speakers)

- when checking the forums at community.openstreetmap.org I couldn't find a thread announcing this projekt. The number of changes happening here seem to warrant the question: did you read this: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct

happy mapping
silversurfer83
solenoid jam (2023-07-07 17:54:50+00:00): Здравствуйте.
- Я надеюсь, что пользователи со всего мира смогут использовать в комментариях свой родной язык, поскольку Openstreetmap это международное сообщество, а не только англо-говорящее или китае-говорящее. 

Я читал статью "Automated Edits code of conduct", и понимаю вашу озабоченность. 
В ряде правок я проявляю индивидуальное внимание к каждому объекту, если это необходимо для улучшения качества данных. Однако, в большинстве случаев, я исправляю систематические ошибки, такие как опечатки, внесение некорректных данных, или рекламные объявления в тэгах.
С уважением
Solenoid jam

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Hello.
- I hope users from all over the world can use their native language in comments, since Openstreetmap is an international community, not just English-speaking or Chinese-speaking. 

I read the "Automated Edits code of conduct" article, and I understand your concern. 
In a number of edits, I show individual attention to each object if necessary to improve the quality of the data. In most cases, however, I correct systematic errors, such as typos, entering incorrect data, or advertisements in tags.
Respectfully
Solenoid jam
silversurfer83 (2023-07-09 14:46:03+00:00): Thank you for replying :)

- I don't believe that we do have rules regarding the language and I totally agree that this is an international project allowing the use of every lanuage supportet by our computer systems. Nevertheless I believe it to be a sign of politness to be using either the most spoken (first and second) language of the world or the language of the region where the edit occured (in this case it looks like Mandarin, but I'm no expert).

- thank you for understanding. If you believe you're treading carefully I will believe you.

Happy mapping :)
your's
silversurfer83
Kovoschiz (2023-07-10 13:23:15+00:00): @solenoid jam  
1. Please check that https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:anthropogenic=yes is "approved" for "any natural feature" (meaning `natural=` here)  
2. I'm extending https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:denotation which is described as usable on "trees" including `=tree_row`. There is no opposing statement on `=wood`, which are also trees. `denotation=urban` already mentions `=wood` can be used instead of individual `=tree` , however the information of `denotation=` is lost if you remove it.
Kovoschiz (2023-07-10 13:40:33+00:00): 2. Documenting in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:More_road_details for convenience
solenoid jam (2023-07-10 16:57:08+00:00): Думаю что тэг "anthropogenic=yes" имеет признаки тролль тэга, поскольку в его описании заданы исключительно широкие рамки применения, конфликтующие с значениями уже существующих тэгов.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Trolltag
Кроме того, такое сочетание тэгов, является крайне не популярной практикой, возможно даже индивидуальной.

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I think the "anthropogenic=yes" tag has the characteristics of a troll tag, since its description sets an exceptionally broad scope of application that conflicts with the meanings of existing tags.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Trolltag
In addition, this combination of tags is not a popular practice, perhaps even an individual one.
solenoid jam (2023-07-10 17:05:12+00:00): Так же, использование "denotation=highway" или "denotation=junction" выглядит не логичным, поскольку не выражает в чём функциональная связь деревьев с дорогой. 
Было бы логично указать, что эти деревья являются защитой от шума или ветра. Такое использование тэгов я видел в других местах нашей карты. 

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Also, the use of "denotation=highway" or "denotation=junction" does not seem logical, as it does not express what the functional relationship of the trees to the road is. 
It would be logical to indicate that these trees are protection from noise or wind. I have seen this use of tags elsewhere on our map.
Kovoschiz (2023-07-11 14:23:46+00:00): 1. `natural=` doesn't mean it's "natural". It means it's water, vegetataion, rock, or earth. 
2. I'm not opposed to adding its functionality, but trees can be planted elsewhere for noise and wind as well. If it's inside a housing estate for noise, it's already `=urban`. If around farm fields for wind (windbreaks), it may be `=agricultural` (it's not clear what "agricultural use" means). I have tried using `insulation=soundproof` https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Insulation_proposal for this elsewhere.
solenoid jam (2023-07-11 17:13:36+00:00): Возможно вам подойдёт такое обозначение: "denotation=windbreak" В OSM оно используется 8 раз, но на мой взгляд это корректно. Думаю так же будет корректно использовать значение "denotation=noise_barrier"
Однако, как узнать истинное назначение этих деревьев? Возможно они посажены, для того что бы ночью свет идущий от автомобилей, не мешал людям спать, или просто для красоты?

Так же, я думаю, что потребитель для рассчётов шумоизоляции, светоизоляции, и защиты от ветра, не будет использовать эти тэги. Скорее всего при расчётах будут использованы все объекты "natural=wood" и "natural=tree_row". 
Разумеется это ни как не ограничивает использование уточняющих тэгов.

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Perhaps you could use this designation: "denotation=windbreak" In OSM it is used 8 times, but in my opinion it is correct. I think it would also be correct to use the value "denotation=noise_barrier"
However, how to know the true purpose of these trees? Perhaps they are planted so that at night the light coming from cars would not interfere with people's sleep, or just for beauty?

Also, I think that the consumer will not use these tags to calculate noise insulation, light insulation, and wind protection. Most likely all "natural=wood" and "natural=tree_row" objects will be used in the calculations. 
Of course, this does not limit the use of qualifying tags in any way.
JesseFTW (2023-07-07 16:10:57+00:00): Per https://www.mbta.com/schedules/69/line?schedule_direction%5Bdirection_id%5D=1&schedule_direction%5Bvariant%5D=69-_-1
emersonveenstra (2023-07-08 16:03:32+00:00): Hi,

Thanks for your contributions, however, i've had to revert your changes because they were causing routing errors. The correct way to show that a road is dirt is to click on the road, and then go to the "Surface" field and choose Dirt (although you may want to look at the values listed here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface#Unpaved, i think you probably mean to do "Compacted"), you shouldn't ever make a new road overtop of an existing one.
NorthCrab_upload (2023-07-07 16:20:15+00:00): Zauważyłem, że Twoja zmiana zawiera niepoprawne adresy. Przygotowałem listę obiektów do poprawy oraz dodatkowe informacje:

Duplikat adresu w okolicy. Adres można oznaczyć na dwa sposoby: na obszarze (dokładniejsze) albo na punkcie. Aktualizując adres, należy się upewnić, czy w okolicy nie pozostały żadne duplikaty.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/11032905533
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/618528006

Dokumentacja adresów (po polsku):
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pl:Key:addr:*

W razie problemów lub pytań, proszę pisać. Chętnie pomogę.
Pozdrawiam! 🦀
Dawid2849 (2023-07-07 20:51:36+00:00): OSM to nie jest kopia klasyfikacji urzędowych! Czy Ty masz pojęcie, jak porusza się tranzyt w tej okolicy? DK74 to nie jest dobra droga, we Frampolu są znaki informujące o tym, że za 8km droga ma ograniczenie 8t masy całkowitej. Na podstawie dyskusji na forum ustaliliśmy, że primary powinno biec przez Biłgoraj (przynajmniej do czasu wybudowania nowego przebiegu DK74 w m. Gorajec)
JesseFTW (2023-07-07 16:34:39+00:00): Per https://www.mbta.com/schedules/69/line?schedule_direction%5Bdirection_id%5D=0&schedule_direction%5Bvariant%5D=69-_-0 

Still need to untangle the weird construction near Letchmere
gurglypipe (2023-07-07 17:27:35+00:00): Isn’t it redundant to add the crossing nodes, given that the crossings already exist as ways? That’s just creating another object which is going to need all the same tags as the crossing way. That feels like it violates https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element to me

Is there precedent for this, or some tagging guidelines saying to add the nodes?
gurglypipe (2023-07-12 12:21:50+00:00): I removed the crossing nodes in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/138420785 as per the above
Mateusz Konieczny (2024-03-16 06:39:33+00:00): Hello! https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/552101318/history has construction = construction that was added in this edit (if I checked things correctly)
What construction=construction means? What you wanted to express by using this tag?
lenny32 (2023-07-10 18:26:41+00:00): Le commentaire et les # ne sont pas bons, il s'agit de la modif de source:ref:aec31:date
kuhni74 (2023-08-19 00:10:55+00:00): I'm not sure what happened here, but now the relation 761 is damaged?!
kuhni74 (2023-08-21 23:05:04+00:00): I just repaired it
TheSwavu (2023-07-09 09:37:40+00:00): Reverted geofiction mapping.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/138289703
gscholz (2023-07-08 06:59:08+00:00): HI graceaidoo,
this changeset has created a lot of errors regarding overlapping ways:

https://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=routing&lon=35.04552&lat=-15.83810&zoom=14&baselayer=Geofabrik%20Standard&overlays=duplicated_edges%2Cunconnected_open_ends_1

https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=138237141

This kind of errors irritates routing software and looks ugly on the maps.

I have reverted it to fix those issues.
Kind regards
Guido
anderfo (2024-05-06 12:12:43+00:00): Hi,
can you clarify what it means when you changed mtb:scale=0 to mtb:scale=0-1?

An invented value like 0-1 will likely not be understood or used/rendered.

If you believe the trail is harder than mtb:scale=0 but not as high as mtb:scale=1, so you want a finer separation, you can consider using mtb:scale=0+ or mtb:scale=1-.

For help, read the wiki at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:mtb:scale
Casey_boy (2023-08-08 09:54:26+00:00): Hi, it looks like you've added highway=track to the Cross Bay Walk PROW route. Personally, I don't think this is the right approach since there is no real highway to use. It's worth reading here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/93427676 for a discussion.
gurglypipe (2023-08-08 19:12:52+00:00): Also, the access tagging changes here will likely cause regressions in cycle routing as per the earlier discussion comments on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/93427676.

access=designated;discouraged should cover the legal access rights for the path, while not actively causing routers to suggest cyclists should actually ever cycle across the sea/sand.
gurglypipe (2023-09-01 00:33:59+00:00): I’ve reinstated the old consensus access tagging in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/140657034.
marco406 (2024-01-23 16:38:54+00:00): Cześć. To jakieś testy? Proponuję to usunąć jako niezgodne z rzeczywistością
Allison P (2024-04-27 22:38:32+00:00): The phone number should not be present on the building at the landfill. Just the site is fine. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/878532523
OmiedC (2023-07-08 10:28:42+00:00): Hallo eggie,
Dank voor alle tips, opmerkingen en ook correcties. Dat helpt voor een beginner als ik.

Ik weet niet zeker of je mijn reactie op jouw reactie ontvangt, dus voor de zekerheid ook hier.

In het geval van het Heidepark had ik 'grasland' vervangen voor 'park', omdat grasland m.i. simpelweg niet klopt. Er is hier namelijk bewust gekozen voor een meer diverse vegetatie dan alleen gras.
Zie ook de bijbehorende wiki, waarin het verschil tussen 'grass' en 'park' is uitgelegd. M.i. past de definitie van park in dit geval dan echt beter: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NL:Tag:landuse=grass?uselang=nl
eggie (2023-07-08 10:38:07+00:00): Oke...  Die verschillende landuse s en naturals staan dan los van dan park. Zo'n park is dan een lossen laag.
Dat had de voorgaande mapper wel anders opgelost. Door twee tags op één polygoon te zetten.
Maar dat is dus een functie en een landusetag. 
gr eggie
mp747474 (2023-07-07 19:46:29+00:00): die Telefonzelle habe ich wiederhergestellt, da sie vor Ort noch vorhanden ist, wenn auch nicht mehr in Betrieb. Bei solchen Telefonzellen bitte nicht einfach löschen, erst dann, wenn die Telefonzelle tatsächlich abgebaut ist und vor Ort keine Spur mehr zu sehen ist.
ednzxt (2026-03-05 05:47:05+00:00): Расскажите, пожалуйста, что из себя представляет этот объект. В каких случаях здесь можно набрать воду? Почему точка приватная?
solenoid jam (2026-03-11 14:45:30+00:00): Это гидрант для заправки водой поливальных машин. Свободного доступа нет.