piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
Jordan Moldow (2023-12-26 23:43:59+00:00): I'm fine removing the Jimbo's reference and most of the JT Express references, but I feel like we should leave at least one JT Express reference until Spread finishes construction and opens to the public. Locals will probably still refer to that location as JT Express until that happens. Would you prefer that I keep that in old_name , or keep it in name:2017--2023-10-28 ?

I don't have an OHM account and I'd prefer not to make a new account, cannot seem to log in via Github like I could for OSM. I have a few questions about your changeset:
- You created two chronology relations. One tracks Jimbo's->JT Express, the other tracks Tengu Sushi->JT Express. But the first chronology relation is named after the merged POI (JT Express), while the second chronology relation is named after the old POI (Tengu Sushi). Why is that?
- Should their be a chronology relation to track the occupancy of 170 Jackson Street (which would include Spread, JT Express, and Jimbo's)?
- Should their be a chronology relation to track the occupancy of 111 Paseo de San Antonio (which would include Spoonfish Poke and Tengu Sushi)?
- Should the JT Express node have tag(s) to indicate that it was formed from the merging of the Jimbo's and Tengo Sushi POI nodes? Or is there some relation type that can indicate this? You currently kind of have this specified via alt_name, but that didn't seem right to me.
- Was "Jimbo’s and Tengu Sushi" actually an alt_name for JT Express? Or is that made up? Could an entymology tag be used to indicate that the "JT" in "JT Express" was probably short for "Jimbo's and Tengu"? I don't know for certain if this is the case (I always assumed "JT" was short for Japan Town, until I learned about the history of Jimbo's and Tengu merging), but it seems very likely that it is.
Minh Nguyen (2023-12-27 01:30:05+00:00): I’d keep “JT Express” in old_name and any other defunct attributes you think are still relevant in disused:*=* tags.

I think it should be feasible for OHM to support more login providers besides OpenID. Feel free to file a request at https://github.com/OpenHistoricalMap/issues/issues .

JT Express used to have “Jimbo’s and Tengu Sushi” in their logo, in small type. Come to think of it, that would make it more of a strapline=*, since probably no one referred to it by that name. I’ve also added name:etymology=* per your suggestion.

There aren’t any hard-and-fast rules about how to name a chronology relation – it’s basically whatever you’d call the historical account if you were to write an article about it. So sometimes I go with the most recent name; other times the name by which it was best known.

Mergers and splits can get tricky. Since the JT Express relation also serves as a chronology for the pre-merger Jimbo’s, I’ve added that as an alt_name. In general, though, I’ve used a POI’s membership in two different chronology relations to indicate a merger.

There could be a chronology relation to track the occupants of a storefront over time. I haven’t gotten around to making them for most of the shops I’ve mapped, but I had a bit of fun with this one: https://www.openhistoricalmap.org/relation/2749168
Minh Nguyen (2023-12-28 09:00:39+00:00): Looks like the GitHub authentication option was removed in https://github.com/OpenHistoricalMap/issues/issues/389 because it wasn’t set up correctly and no one had been asking for it.
Jordan Moldow (2023-12-28 22:11:33+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/145638638
ZAINAB711 (2023-12-21 22:19:04+00:00): الموقع من تموينات كنوز الثقبه الى مجمع الظهران والعكس كذالك
emersonveenstra (2023-12-23 14:23:52+00:00): Hi there,

You created this road without connecting it to the main road network: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1233103947

If the road isn't connected, then routers can't use it, so could you please go back and connect it to the main road? Thanks!
silversurfer83 (2023-12-23 15:52:29+00:00): Hi emerson,

good catch :) thanks 

seasons greetings
aceman444 (2025-10-23 17:45:23+00:00): Why? What college is this?
the whole university was already mapped as https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/357005956 . Is this a department of the university? If so, which one?
philippec (2023-12-24 11:22:19+00:00): Is de AED van plaats veranderd ?
Ik tel zes bakstenen van de hoek.
dentonny (2023-12-24 20:44:34+00:00): Het GRB is geupdate en op basis daarvan heb ik het gebouw en dak aangepast.
Ik heb daarna ook de AED een beetje verschoven denk ik. Maar het is toch duidelijk dat deze vlakbij de hoek hangt?

Als we gaan beginnen met bakstenen te tellen... :)
SpinOff (2023-12-26 17:44:26+00:00): Hej. Na tym wale przeciwpowodziowym faktycznie jest scieżka? Jak ostatni raz tam byłem, to rosła chyba tylko trawa.

Przy okazji, do poprawy jest tagowanie: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:embankment%3Ddyke
voltairovicz (2023-12-26 23:38:41+00:00): Witam, 
Wychodzę z założenia, że w przeciwieństwie do drogi przejście szczytem wału jest zawsze możliwe, nawet jeżeli przedept jest słabo widoczny, dlatego też dodawałem nawierzchnię surface=grass, tylko nie pamiętam czy wszędzie. No i także uzupełniam dyke dla wałów i grobli, tak jak to też mapowaliśmy nad Odrą. Chyba że chodzi ci, by zastąpić man_made=dyke na embankment=dyke, bo dawałem embankment=yes. Nie wiedziałem wcześniej o tej drobnej różnicy w tagowaniu
SpinOff (2023-12-27 01:52:39+00:00): Też dopero teraz trafiłem na ten artykuł z wiki, ale wygląda na to, że embankment=dyke jest poprawne.

Co do przejścia na wale, to mam zdjęcie świeżo po remoncie: https://www.strava.com/activities/6141429916

Tak pół na pół. Może na razie oznacz jak uważasz, a ja kiedyś się tam wybiorę i zobaczę jak to teraz wygląda.
DaveF (2025-02-28 11:34:14+00:00): Not pointless as it prevents additional tags being added to the ways instead of the relation & even ways being deleted
daganzdaanda (2023-12-22 00:18:23+00:00): Nur note 3856576 wurde hiermit geschlossen, die andern mit 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/145388991
Hufkratzer (2023-12-22 21:07:38+00:00): Hi,
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1233173597 looks like a riding arena, but you have tagged it leisure=horse_riding, which is the tag for riding centres. In OSM riding arenas (and also round pens) are usually tagged leisure=pitch +  sport=equestrian and in iD there is a different preset for ridng arenas than for riding centres that sets these tags. Please make sure you use the correct presets depending on what you want to map.

This is also relevant for
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1232990494
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1232990497
and
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1221066229

Compare
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aleisure%3Dhorse_riding
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1036361201 (example)
Wauteurz (2023-12-22 21:36:00+00:00): Hiya,
Thank you for the heads-up. The presets in Dutch are very similarly named, so I tend to pick the wrong one from time to time. I've fixed the edits you named per https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/145420998
muralito (2023-12-22 16:35:09+00:00): De acuerdo. Pero lo que habria que hacer es mapear en Av. 18 de Julio son las 3 vias por separado, dos vehiculares y la ciclovia en el medio, ya que ahora la ciclovia por el medio separa los carriles vehiculares.
En San Jose tambien hay cierta separacion fisica con bolardos de plastico, por lo que podria mapearse la ciclovia pegada a la acera norte.
muralito (2023-12-22 16:36:45+00:00): Y tambien tengo entendio que ahora la calle Cassinoni tambien permite cruzar en auto, pero no lo he visto personalmente.
Tremendous Judge (2023-12-22 18:18:52+00:00): - De acuerdo con lo primero. No estaba del todo seguro cómo resolverlo, en realidad cycleway=both implica que la ciclovía está a los lados de la calle y no en el medio. La otra forma de mapear esto que encontré es usando lanes: https://old.reddit.com/r/openstreetmap/comments/qgzfc4/cycle_way_between_two_lanes/hia5p58/
pero no sé si habría un beneficio

- Respecto a lo segundo, cycleway=track debería ser suficiente, según la wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:cycleway%3Dtrack

- Sobre Cassinoni, es cierto! No estoy del todo seguro de cómo es la geometría como para poder hacer el cambio yo.
muralito (2023-12-23 01:04:22+00:00): Y bueno, asi son las realidades que generan nuestros gobernantes...
habria que inventar el tag cycleway=middle... :-)

En realidad el mapeado  convendria hacelo separado entre otras cosas por ejemplo la suavidad de la ciclovia es nueva y excelente, y la de los carriles vehiculares es mediocre. y eso creo que no se puede hacer con una sola via usando lanes,

Ver https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:cycleway%3Dtrack#Alternatives_to_mapping_using_cycleway=track

que te parece?
Tremendous Judge (2023-12-26 18:59:32+00:00): Sí, de acuerdo, sería lo mejor separar la calle hasta Quijano. Ahora en un rato subo el cambio.
Stahlmann (2024-11-14 14:35:08+00:00): "Leitung südlich+westlich von Hallensen wohl abgebaut" ist falsch. Abgebaut wird eine andere Leitung. Die Leitung ist, soeben vor Ort geprüft, vollständig und zeigt keine Anzeichen für Arbeiten.

Fixme an https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/349298755 mit #159132871 entfernt.
StreetSurveyor (2024-02-11 20:01:11+00:00): This was an interesting "street". Tried to go all the way through from the upper Warwick portion but it turned into a driveway. Accessed it off of Division Street, no signs indicating Saddlebrook Drive (or private). East Greenwich GIS, https://next.axisgis.com/East_GreenwichRI/ didn't show it as part of the roads but the Warwick one, https://www.axisgis.com/warwickri/  previously did. In looking again today, the road name is gone. I'm going to remove the name all together and turn it into a driveway because that seems most appropriate.
ZeLonewolf (2024-02-11 21:57:35+00:00): Driveway seems reasonable to me.  It only has a sign that says "BITTERSWEET FARM" and then below it "PRIVATE PROPERTY".
matheusgomesms (2024-01-05 15:11:10+00:00): Denilson, tudo bem?

Poderia dar uma olhada nos comentários de alterações anteriores ou no Telegram? Tem edição sua que precisa de ajustes, e seria bom conversarmos antes, se for possível! Assim os "erros" não se repetem.

Abraço!
Matheus
MxxCon (2023-12-22 20:10:48+00:00): Hello.
Please do not abbreviate street names. They should be fully spelled out. You can read more about this guideline at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Abbreviations
questfinder (2023-12-22 20:29:27+00:00): These are building within a complex that use letter to identify them. Unless if I have to add building to all their identifying letters.
MxxCon (2023-12-22 20:35:12+00:00): These buildings have "addr:street=S Midland Ave". 
That's incorrect. 
The correct street name is "South Midland Avenue", fully spelled out.
questfinder (2023-12-22 21:20:55+00:00): Thanks for the clarification, I will update them.
Allison P (2024-02-04 16:32:15+00:00): The letters should probably be ref=*, not name=*. People would be unlikely to call one of the buildings "O", but might call it "Building O" much like the nearby road could be called County Road 699 but is tagged ref=CR 699.
questfinder (2024-02-04 16:39:21+00:00): I do not update state/county route. these building are identified by letters as shown.
MxxCon (2024-02-04 16:51:10+00:00): Please read up on the ref= tag https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref and how it's different from the name= tag
nw520 (2024-02-08 17:43:02+00:00): Hallo goodidea, zum name-Tag gibt es einen offenen Hinweis: https://osm.org/note/4094704 .
Der name-Tag wurde zwischenzeitlich bereits gelöscht.

Beste Grüße
Aleks-Berlin (2023-12-25 09:32:30+00:00): Hi SIG_3CO,
please read this:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:wikimedia_commons#Exemple_d'utilisation
Merci, Alex
SIG_3CO (2023-12-26 06:14:07+00:00): Bonjour,

Merci beaucoup :-)
tyfi (2023-12-22 05:33:57+00:00): Typo: Route*

I write that a lot when I type fast.
tyfi (2023-12-22 05:37:26+00:00): It runs parallel to HH to the north, so HH does actually need to be adjusted still.
tyfi (2023-12-22 05:37:43+00:00): to the east, not north*
tyfi (2023-12-22 05:40:03+00:00): Also, being a designated county road might make it unclassified rather than track? Something for the future
ZeLonewolf (2023-12-23 12:50:37+00:00): Please undo this edit, this is normal mapping practice.
ZeLonewolf (2023-12-23 20:04:30+00:00): Reverted; this is a normal mapping practice.  Please discuss in the United States section of the community forum before further removing pedestrian areas.  https://community.openstreetmap.org/

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/145448850
VictorIE (2023-12-22 21:41:17+00:00): Hi,

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/860377285

When the site is marked amenity=police there is no need to add the same tag to the building. The general principal is 'one feature, one OSM element'. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/One_feature,_one_OSM_element
MapMenMan (2023-12-23 03:59:58+00:00): @VictorIE How should this rule be applied to areas such as School Grounds? E.g. Coláiste Choilm in Ballincollig has buildings that are all part of the school grounds, but some have distinct uses and some are general school buildings.
Should other School Grounds (or areas like hospitals, colleges, and fire stations), have their buildings labeled as School Buildings or just "Buildings"?
VictorIE (2023-12-23 11:06:39+00:00): Hi again,

So in Coláiste Choilm, the main school buildings are tagged building=school. The little gazebo is tagged amenity=shelter and building=yes and shelter_type=gazebo. If there was a typical school 'shed', it would also be tagged amenity=shelter and building=yes NOT building=school. A caretaker's shed would be building=shed. 

There is a building named Sportlann that is tagged leisure=sports_centre. This might not be quite correct. This would be OK if it was something like a club / community sport centre (typically with multiple facilities / sport spaces), but might be incorrect if it is just a school sports hall.

With Cork University Hospital the whole site is amenity=hospital and healthcare=hospital and the buildings are building=hospital. A confounding factor may be Cork University Maternity Hospital - is that a separate hospital or not? 

Sometimes, especially with commuter towns, there are several schools co-located on one site, e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/53.51117/-6.41369 in which case  we can either split it as best we can with separate amenity=school or use landuse=education

Sometimes, a school or other facility will have no open space, in which case the same object will have both amenity=* and building=* https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/761246033
ElliottPlack (2024-02-15 20:38:13+00:00): Agreed here, Andrew. It is common to use both ways for routability and area for cartographic precision. Both have a value. The data consumer can choose what to show/emphasize.
tyfi (2023-12-22 05:56:38+00:00): On June 15, 2023, I added ref and relation for a supposed MO P in Wooldridge apparently based on Bing StreetSide. I can't verify that now, and I do not remember why I added it.
tyfi (2023-12-22 05:57:40+00:00): In this location, a single-letter (or even a double-letter) supplemental route would not be used for the purpose. If anything, an unsigned spur of 179 would be used.
ivanbranco (2024-03-01 15:59:59+00:00): Hi SIG_3CO,

the wikimedia_commons=* tag should be used only for images depicting the element (in this case, the singular tree), not generic pictures like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cocos_nucifera_-_K%C3%B6hler%E2%80%93s_Medizinal-Pflanzen-187.jpg in this case.
arjunaraoc (2023-12-27 15:21:51+00:00): Welcome to OSM.  Please visit  India page on OSM wiki (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India) and  join OSM India Telegram channel (https://t.me/OSMIndia).
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skquinn (2023-12-28 17:14:26+00:00): Great work so far. Welcome to OpenStreetMap!
MikeyLikeyGIS (2024-01-05 14:02:38+00:00): Thank you!
user_177389 (2023-12-22 10:02:07+00:00): changeset reverted
user_177389 (2023-12-22 10:02:18+00:00): changeset reverted
silversurfer83 (2023-12-22 13:15:42+00:00): Moin :)

bisher habe ich leider noch keine schriftliche Antwort von dir erhalten. Eine Reaktion hat es schon gegeben. Ich habe gesehen, dass du die komische Relation an dem Neubaugebiet bearbeitet hast. Danke.

Es entstehen aber weiterhin so "Monster" wie https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/16858503

Erklär mir doch bitte einmal, wer sich darum kümmern soll und wer da die betroffenen Flächen bearbeiten soll, ohne etwas kaputt zu machen oder Probleme beim Laden zu bekommen.
16 Mitglieder, "Millionen" nodes. Alles nur für ein paar qm Gras welches zwischen Feldern steht.

Ich würde es gerne verstehen. Daher frage ich noch einmal.

Grüße
und einen guten Start ins letzte Adventswochenende
silversurfer83
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Paradine (2023-12-22 17:58:31+00:00): Moin,

ich brauche dir kein schriftliche Antwort und ich Erklärungen muss ich auch nicht abgeben.

In diesen Gegenden mapped seit Jahren kaum jemand, zumindest was Flächen angeht.

Es ist wie immer im Leben.
Bevor man solche "Monster" editiert, sollte man Wissen was man da tut und den Durchblick haben.

Grüße

paradine86
silversurfer83 (2023-12-22 19:54:40+00:00): Da magst du Recht haben, dass du dich nicht erklären *musst*

Es wäre trotzdem schön, zu verstehen, was das soll.

Denn nur, weil in dieser Gegend nicht viel los ist, vom Rechner aus unwartbare Multipolygone in die Datenbank zu packen, ist auch kein Grund.

Diese Konstruktionen sind nämlich für Otto-Normal-Mapper praktisch nicht bearbeitbar ohne etwas kaputt zu machen. Und wenn du mich fragst glaube ich, dass das auch abschreckend ist.

Ich bleibe bei dem Beispiel mit dem Neubaugebiet, welches mich auf deine Arbeit aufmerksam gemacht hat. Wie soll da jemand mit iD in seinem Dorf vernünftig etwas ändern, wenn es ein halbes Bachelorstudium dieses Projekts hier braucht um die Zusammenhänge zu verstehen?

Warum müssen ein paar qm Gras so komplex erfasst werden?

Wie willst du "noobs" dazu bekommen im dörflichen Franken an der Karte zu arbeiten?
rempshaener (2023-12-22 18:05:31+00:00): Hallo,
das access=private wurde hier entfernt, obwohl das Betreten verboten ist. Kannst du das noch einmal überprüfen?
Viele Grüße
Lukas Skywalker (2023-12-23 20:27:22+00:00): Hallo,
vielen Dank für den Hinweis! Das ist mir tatsächlich nicht aufgefallen - habe das nun für alle Pfade rund um das Gewässer gemacht - wie "findest" du solche changesets? Habe bisher nur editiert aber nie ein review durchgeführt...kann man bestimmte Gebiete "abonnieren"? Also z.B. dort, wo man sich lokal sehr gut auskennt; würde solche Fehler gerne auch in meiner Umgebung erkennen können. VG
rempshaener (2023-12-24 09:45:11+00:00): Hallo,
es gibt einige Tools zur Überwachung von Änderungen, ich nutze https://overpass-api.de/achavi.
Unten links ist unter „help“ ganz gut beschrieben, wie man den Bereich auswählt und – besonders praktisch – einen Permalink erzeugt. Ich schaue da fast täglich rein, das Datum der letzten Abfrage „merkt“ sich achavi, dadurch sehe ich immer die letzten Änderungen. Ich habe mir ein Gebiet Korschenbroich – Hilden – Lörick – Nievenheim eingerichtet, und da gucke ich dann primär auf Neuss. Das ist hinsichtlich der Größe noch handhabbar.
Viele Grüße und schöne Festtage
CAM-Gerlach_Repair (2026-06-05 09:32:29+00:00): Cleaned up opening_hours=* and phone=* formatting for Adler Chiropractic SEO POI in changeset 183685398

https://osm.org/changeset/183685398
mga_geo (2023-12-22 15:00:03+00:00): Bonjour,
Attention, vos modifications cassent la continuité du trajet de nombreuses relations route=bus : r1743306,r14632200,r14632201,r416733
Marc
Sangro (2023-12-23 12:08:00+00:00): Hi Marc, Thank you for feedback. I will analyze situation and come back to you.
Sangro (2023-12-28 05:03:48+00:00): Hi mga_geo, thank you for the feedback! I checked the relations you mentioned but I am not able to see the issues you refer to.  Please can you help me by providing some more information?  Thank you.
mga_geo (2023-12-28 08:54:00+00:00): With JOSM, it is possible to see the history. For r1743306, between version 105 and 105, in members, the ways are misplaced.
Sangro (2024-01-03 04:44:18+00:00): Hi mga_geo, thank you for your reply, this helped me understand what you were referring to.  Also thank you for sorting the members in relations.
Dāvis Kļaviņš (2023-12-22 09:20:31+00:00): Maps of Jāņa sēta ar a proprietary source and cannot be used in OSM. Changes must be reverted!
Dāvis Kļaviņš (2023-12-22 09:25:31+00:00): Reverted: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/145399206
StreamMaps (2023-12-22 09:47:01+00:00): https://active.kartes.lv/?salaspils perhaps this will work.
Dāvis Kļaviņš (2023-12-22 09:50:14+00:00): Not, it won't work. It's the same data source.
richlv (2023-12-22 18:34:48+00:00): Indeed, please note that we may not use data from any other map unless it has been explicitly allowed.
If other maps are used, it risks having all your contributions reverted.

Please see paragraph 1 in https://osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Contributor_Terms .

Also from https://www.openstreetmap.org/welcome :
"Unless you have special permission, don't copy from online or paper maps."
MarcoR (2023-12-23 08:04:38+00:00): Ciao e benvenuta su OpenStreetMap!

Non riesco a capire l'orario di apertura: da maggio a settembre il cimitero è aperto solo la mattina dalle 7:00 a 12:00 mentre l'apertura pomeridiana dalle 16:30 alle 19:00 vale per tutto l'anno?
stefaniaricagni (2023-12-24 11:52:01+00:00): Ciao, no questo è solo l’orario estivo, appena avrò appurato quello invernale lo aggiungerò
MarcoR (2023-12-24 18:27:18+00:00): Grazie per la risposta, ho aggiunto il tag opening_hours al cimitero, quando vuoi puoi migliorarlo.

Buone feste,
Marco.
StC (2024-07-21 09:19:01+00:00): Hi! I can't find any evidence for this drag_lift ropeway in Guzet-Neige that would have the same geometry as the Picou chairlift. Do you have sources for it?
geozeisig (2024-07-21 10:09:00+00:00): If you have more recent information, feel free to add it. I have only improved wrong taggs.
StC (2024-07-22 10:04:33+00:00): OK, now I understand what happened; I should have looked into the history of this object. Apparently you mistakenly converted a roller-coaster into a drag_lift aerialway.
woodpeck_repair (2024-02-14 19:32:03+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 147464049, 147464044, 147464035, 147464024 where the changeset comment is: revert von Edits, die auf noch nicht für OSM freigegebenen Daten der Landesvermessung RLP beruhen
osmviborg (2023-12-22 10:35:34+00:00): Et adressepunkt repræsenterer i første omgang en matrikel. Måtte der komme en bygning på matriklen, tilknyttes punktet bygningen. Hvis Svendborg Kommune mener punktet er overflødigt, så sletter kommunen punktet.
Romwriter (2023-12-23 20:26:07+00:00): Hallo mysticacupido, die bauliche Trennung zwischen den Fahrbahnen Richtung Nord und Richtung Süd kann ich nachvollziehen, aber beispielsweise zwischen https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1233256200 und https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1233256187 ist laut Luftbild nur eine gestrichelte Fahrstreifenbegrenzung, keine bauliche Trennung vorhanden (so eine bauliche Trennung wäre auch ganz ungewöhnlich). Und den Abbiegebeschränkungen https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/16858738, https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/16858739, https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/16858740 scheint mir auch kein straßenverkehrsrechtliches Ge- oder Verbot zugrunde zu liegen. Ich bitte um Erläuterung. Beste Grüße, Romwriter
mysticacupido (2024-01-03 10:31:49+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/145512814