piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
Frans S (2024-07-23 07:55:41+00:00): We welcome you as a new mapper.
Thanks for your contribution to this project.
This changeset is reviewed by a Global Validator to check that the tasks have been mapped in accordance with the quality standards of HOTOSM. 
We cannot expect from a new mapper that he/she delivers high-quality mappings from the start, so we offer some guidance.
Please pay attention to the next summarized issues. (see attached document with examples for more info)
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A: Inaccurate mapping.

B: Overlapping buildings.

C: Collecting adjacent buildings and mapped is as 1 building.

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E: Buildings not squared.

F: Buildings partly hidden under trees.

G: Included the shadow of the building .

H: Included a yard of clearing.

Explanation can be found in this document what  might be helpful to strengthen your mapping skills
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Swwz-ZwM3_YOstqstsmCg1-lNAPbnMLpi1Al-h-2UOQ/edit


Best regards and keep mapping!
Frans S
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Frans S (2024-07-23 07:57:12+00:00): Hello. This comment is valid for most of your changesets yous issued today.

The mappings in this changeset will be removed due to the fact that they are far oversized or clustered.
Best regards
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Frans S (2024-07-23 09:37:45+00:00): We welcome you as a new mapper.
Thanks for your contribution to this project.
This changeset is reviewed by a Global Validator to check that the tasks have been mapped in accordance with the quality standards of HOTOSM. 
We cannot expect from a new mapper that he/she delivers high-quality mappings from the start, so we offer some guidance.
Please pay attention to the next summarized issues. (see attached document with examples for more info)
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A: sometimes Inaccurate mapping.
C: Collecting adjacent buildings and mapped is as 1 building.
E: Buildings not squared.



Explanation can be found in this document what  might be helpful to strengthen your mapping skills
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Swwz-ZwM3_YOstqstsmCg1-lNAPbnMLpi1Al-h-2UOQ/edit


Best regards and keep mapping!
Frans S
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Frans S (2024-07-23 09:34:43+00:00): We welcome you as a new mapper.
Thanks for your contribution to this project.
This changeset is reviewed by a Global Validator to check that the tasks have been mapped in accordance with the quality standards of HOTOSM. 
We cannot expect from a new mapper that he/she delivers high-quality mappings from the start, so we offer some guidance.
Please pay attention to the next summarized issues. (see attached document with examples for more info)
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A: Inaccurate mapping.
C: Collecting adjacent buildings and mapped is as 1 building.
D: Connecting Nodes to other features.
E: Buildings not squared.


Explanation can be found in this document what  might be helpful to strengthen your mapping skills
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Swwz-ZwM3_YOstqstsmCg1-lNAPbnMLpi1Al-h-2UOQ/edit


Best regards and keep mapping!
Frans S
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pitfire (2024-07-23 05:10:07+00:00): Änderungsbeschreibung heist ohne Schreibfehler: 
Bergischer Panoramasteig :-)
KiloThree (2024-07-23 15:22:20+00:00): Did you mean to remove the traffic lights at Main St and Mystic Valley Parkway? I'm not entirely certain if the lights there had been fully decommissioned, my memory of my ride through this weekend isn't definitive, but I thought these were controlled to some extent
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cubbe8 (2024-07-23 15:24:22+00:00): They just flash red, have no function other than a stop sign
KiloThree (2024-07-23 15:25:04+00:00): So they're still binker traffic lights right? Apologies if I misread your changeset, it looked like you had removed the points
cubbe8 (2024-07-23 15:28:16+00:00): Ah I see. I have corrected
KiloThree (2024-07-23 15:36:13+00:00): Thanks!
Fizzie-DWG (2025-04-13 02:55:21+00:00): DWG revert - undiscussed Organised import from unknown source

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/164877898
Soshal Distan Singh (2024-07-24 00:39:53+00:00): >https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1303200058

Эта дорога не видна ни на одном доступном для ОСМ снимке, зато она есть в Яндексе. Совпадение?
lasagna (2024-07-23 14:23:34+00:00): Welcome to OpenStreetMap and thanks for your changes so far.
When you make edits like this one, remember that bicycle=no is about legal access: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Dno
If the rules allow bicycles but the path looks overgrown, one or more of these tags may be more appropriate:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoothness
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:trail_visibility
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:mtb:scale

Otherwise, if the path is completely overgrown, consider retagging it as disused:highway=path ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:abandoned:* ) or even deleting it.
Helmut Kauer (2024-10-01 19:21:23+00:00): Privatparkplatz ist kein Name. Die Beschränkung wird mit access=private eingetragen.
Bathyscapher (2024-10-02 14:19:28+00:00): Sehe ich auch so (ich hab hier StreetComplete via  nur den "type" hinzugefügt). Ist jetzt geändert.
ottwiz (2024-07-23 05:39:17+00:00): *Clay County
Mahdi Nameghi (2024-07-23 07:40:22+00:00): سلام
آیا گذاشتن سه اسم روی یک معبر لازمه؟ نمیشه از تگهای دیگه استفاده کرد؟
alt_name
old_name
....
Gregory Peony (2024-10-25 22:39:12+00:00): The building footprints are inaccurate becasue they are oversized and not squared, though they should be. In order to square buildings the nodes must be placed accurately enough before hand, else they might not square. This is to allow for mapping fo buildings which have some square corners but also others which are not. The imagery allows for you to map these buildings more accurately than this.
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Gregory Peony (2024-10-25 22:33:06+00:00): I modified this building and uploaded my changes in Changeset: 158357152 for you to use as a reference/example. I aligned the building to ESRI imagery.
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dpolovinkin (2024-10-03 15:56:05+00:00): добрый день! на пляже есть магазин DYI? учитывая что щас там стройка вроде?
dpolovinkin (2024-10-21 06:49:11+00:00): ну раз не отвечаете, удаляю его)
dpolovinkin (2024-10-21 06:49:55+00:00): и Нептуна Нетпуном назвать тоже как то это самое)
Fizzie-DWG (2024-07-30 06:57:58+00:00): Reverted by DWG for use on unauthorised imagery (Nearmap)

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/154591195
Nakaner (2024-09-09 16:33:18+00:00): Hi,

you closed this road segment (due to construction?) and added opening_date=2024-08-31. Have the construction works being completed yet? If yes, please do not forget to remove the access restrictions because August is over. ;-)

For the next time, I would like to suggest to use highway=construction instead of access restrictions.

Best regards

Michael (passed this roundabout mid of July on my way to SotM-EU in Łodz)
Tomek | Yanosik (2024-09-11 08:35:49+00:00): Hi,
for shorter works I use access=no. This reconstruction seems to be extended, but I am not sure for how long. I will pay attention to this place. Thanks for your suggestions.
Gregory Peony (2024-10-29 20:59:06+00:00): You made a good choice of imagery. This is a valid footprint. This footprint should be squared. Press q after tagging to do this. Please keep this feedback in mind when contributing in future. Thank you for your contribution. If you want to experience the OSM community or to get timely feedback from other mappers; I recommend that you attend a mapathon. You can find events here https://osmcal.org/
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Soshal Distan Singh (2024-07-24 01:26:37+00:00): Вы продолжаете рисовать дороги неаккуратно (https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/153768208). Даже ваш браузерный редактор выдаёт вам предупреждения, но вы их игнорируете:
warnings:crossing_ways:highway-highway  	1
 warnings:crossing_ways:highway-railway  	1

Здесь я исправил, в другом месте всё откатил, т.к. много возиться.
—
https://learnosm.org/en/beginner/id-editor/#configuring-the-background-layer

Переключайтесь между разными подложками, выбирая более свежую (чаще это Esri World Imagery), не забывая про смещение (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Использование_аэрофотоснимков).
Gregory Peony (2024-10-25 22:07:21+00:00): Positives: You made a good decision to use Mapbox as an imagery source due to its superior resolution. All footprints you added outline buildings visible in imagery. Thank you for your contribution.
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Gregory Peony (2024-10-25 22:21:59+00:00): Negatives: Buildings share nodes with other buildings and features like landuse areas. To avoid this error hold 'Alt' while drawing to prevent your cursor from snapping to existing nodes and features. You can also filter out data that may be getting in your way like the landuse area, so that you do not interact with it. Building footprints are inaccurate and offset with regard to the primary imagery source. Quality > Quantity. Zoom in to accurately place nodes on the corners of buildings, tag them, and press q to square them when appropriate. Since ESRI is the primary source you should offset any suplimentary sources so that the mapping you do is aligned. ID should have displayed warnings alerting you to some of these errors. Explore the suggested options to resolve warnings, and ask for help if you're not sure what to do.
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Gregory Peony (2024-10-27 20:08:15+00:00): Most of the building footprints you added are valid, and you also mapped buildings wih more complex shapes however, the footprints are composed of excess nodes. You only need to click on the corners of buildings. You made a good decision to use Mapbox as an imagery source in this area, but check the primary source before saving your changes, becasue you added buildings that are no longer there. Please press q to square the corners of rectilinear buildings after tagging the area you draw. Please keep this feedback in mind when contributing in future. Thank you for your contribution. If you want to experience the OSM community or to get timely feedback from other mappers; I recommend that you attend a mapathon. You can find events here https://osmcal.org/
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Warin61 (2024-07-23 23:39:42+00:00): Hi,
You change the role of a way in a multipolygon relation from 'outer' to 'inner' ... make no sense as it is the outside edge of the trees. 

The comment 'boundary line reversed ' is also puzzling as the direction of a boundary line makes no difference to anything??? 

The relation role has been corrected.
une abeille (2024-07-23 13:35:32+00:00): I uploaded some 360° imagery of this street on Mapillary the other day, if you need it. I was planning to use it to update this area eventually.
ixpstfrtrv (2024-07-24 19:39:28+00:00): Sweet! I don't have need for it as I'm around the area often. I'm glad to see it exists though.
silversurfer83 (2024-07-23 12:45:38+00:00): Moinsen :)

deine Kommentare sind weiterhin nicht sehr hilfreich. Daher noch einmal meine Bitte besser zu kommentieren:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Good_changeset_comments

Außerdem wäre es schön, wenn du auf Fragen zu deinen Änderungen auch antworten könntest:
https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=238720

Du hast in der Vergangenheit Dinge geändert zu denen Ich und andere Fragen haben. Bitte hilf uns doch, diese Fragen aus der Welt zu schaffen. Danke :)

happy mapping
silversurfer83
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CupIvan (2024-12-02 19:04:49+00:00): исправляйте пожалуйста аккуратнее, этой правкой вы сломали мультиполигон Новинки
CupIvan (2024-12-02 19:08:30+00:00): вернее ЖК Окский берег, который входит в новинки, его нужно было добавить как отношение https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/12322344
SekeRob (2024-07-25 15:00:04+00:00): Ciao,

Dove posso trovare le prove dell'esistenza di questo noleggio BikeSquare, dato che non sono riuscito a trovarle. Stranamente Google Maps lo indica in questa località, ma si tratta di uno stabilimento balneare con un chiosco di biciclette per gli ospiti. Inoltre il sito di BikeSquare riporta un nome di strada che da tempo non esiste più in quanto la via ciclopedonale si chiama Lungomare Aldo Moro. 

Ho corretto alcune notazioni di tag su questo punto di interesse preso da BikeSquare in quanto è stato segnalato dal controllo qualità di OSM.

per favore fatemi sapere



PS Le postine che si sono fermate lì per caso non sapevano della loro esistenza.
VLD549 (2024-09-24 13:45:42+00:00): Hi, I was asked to verify the name change from De Zonnepoort to Basisschool De Zonnepoort. The name change is correct, but the site provided indicates it to be at Sint-Lievenspoortstraat 2 - 8. On the map that would be a little south. Is that something that needs changing?

Thank you.
AlexZam (2024-08-06 12:11:49+00:00): Could you please explain addr:housename setting for buildings within Zephyros Village 4? "Zephyros 4" is not the name for some individual house but for the enclosing group. They have addresses like "Zephyros Village 4, Block 5", not "House 5 aka Zephyros 4". Therefore housename usage seems to be incorrect here.
Layft Greater (2024-08-07 14:37:55+00:00): The key "addr:housename" does not replace "addr:housenumber", but complements it. The example address you provided should be read as "House 5 `Zephiros 4`, Example street, Example Village, Paphos District"

"block 5" goes into "add:unit" key.

I hope I answered your question.
AlexZam (2024-08-08 11:17:52+00:00): Exactly: addr:housename is an addition to addr:housenumber. As in "house number 5, also known as Something Court". And therefore it is incorrect in this case. Now there's a bunch of houses like "number 1 (Zephyros 4)", "number 2 (Zephyros 4)" etc. This is clearly the case where addresses are not on street but in the place. The page for addr:place on wiki describes exactly this case. And it makes no sense to add "housename" equal to place name to every building in named place.
AlexZam (2024-08-08 11:24:02+00:00): Just to be clear: "Zephyros 4" is not a house name but a neighbourhood name there are Zephyros 1 to 3 also each containing multiple houses. And address is not "house named Zephyros 4, unit 20", but "Zephyros 4 Village, house number 20"
Elizen (2024-07-23 08:21:28+00:00): Здравствуйте. Пожалуйста, не дублируйте значение из addr:housenumber в name
eapolyakova (2024-07-24 09:55:52+00:00): Добрый день! Не могли бы Вы, пожалуйста, объяснить, в чем проблема дублирования номера дома? Единственным изменением, что я наблюдаю после проставления, является отображение номера дома над полигоном.
Elizen (2024-07-24 10:34:09+00:00): Тег name не предназначен для того, чтобы в него заносили адресную информацию. Подробнее можете ознакомиться здесь: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Key:name
Адресная информация заносится в теги с префиксом addr: . Подробнее здесь: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Key:addr:* и https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:%D0%90%D0%B4%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B0
По поводу отображения номера дома: не нужно использовать теги в разрез с их изначальным значением, чтобы где-то отображалось "красиво" https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:%D0%A0%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B4_%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80
В OSM же правильно внесённые номера домов видны на карте, вот пример: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/201761090
eapolyakova (2024-07-24 10:39:35+00:00): Поняла, спасибо за пояснение! Впредь не буду заносить и в будущем постараюсь удалить ранее мной внесенные
Frans S (2024-07-23 10:43:40+00:00): Hello. Thanks for mapping.
Please solve the issues of the issue triangle before you upload your mapping.
Check the width of a trace of a road to decide how to tag it. You tagged wide highways as a path. Unclassified or residential should be better.
Best regards
djsa (2024-07-23 12:48:44+00:00): Hey, momenteel is volgens dit bord (link onderaan) enkel de portie park rond het kasteel nog privé, de rest van het grotere park is nu publiek. Ik heb Stad leuven gecontacteerd voor concrete contouren/shapefiles van het publieke en privé deel, zodat dit beter in kaart gebracht kan worden.

https://scontent-fra5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/452617843_10160125727443341_7823070821660483808_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=aa7b47&_nc_ohc=1VfS7SEPtRMQ7kNvgGrRKo9&_nc_ht=scontent-fra5-1.xx&oh=00_AYB6Tdr91AHyICAtGtFTKpkymaOgCA0ju9TDDmg1HBTXoA&oe=66A5648E
Koen VO (2024-07-23 12:57:07+00:00): Ik denk dat de contour nu toch min of meer ok is?
djsa (2024-07-23 14:46:36+00:00): Ja, van het kleine deel wel (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1303111241), maar weet je iets over dit grotere path (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/92318853), dat staat op private. Wist niet of delen hiervan eventueel ook bij het publieke park horen?
Koen VO (2024-07-23 15:09:41+00:00): Dat is een slechte contour, kan moeilijk als natuurlijk bos beschouwd worden en buiten het gedeelte van het park, is dat allemaal private.
Frans S (2024-08-01 10:45:38+00:00): Hello. Thanks for mapping.
Please refresh your knowledge how to tag highways here.
Check this wiki.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India/Tags/Highway
traces > 2 mtr wide should not be tagged as path.
Here, in farmland without buildings. Use 'track'
The same for the ones you tagged as residential.

Best regards and keep mapping
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Elizen (2024-07-23 08:27:45+00:00): Здравствуйте. Пожалуйста, не дублируйте значение из addr:housenumber в name
Ekaterina_sev (2024-07-24 10:01:45+00:00): Здравствуйте. Подскажите пожалуйста на что влияет заполненное поле name?
Elizen (2024-07-24 11:13:00+00:00): Тег name не предназначен для того, чтобы в него заносили адресную информацию. Подробнее можете ознакомиться здесь: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Key:name
Адресная информация заносится в теги с префиксом addr: . Подробнее здесь: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Key:addr:* и https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:%D0%90%D0%B4%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B0
Не нужно использовать теги в разрез с их изначальным значением, чтобы где-то отображалось "красиво" https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:%D0%A0%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%B4_%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80
Elizen (2024-07-24 11:17:59+00:00): Будет здорово, если в других своих правках вы уберёте некорректно используемый тег name.
Ilovemap1999 (2024-07-24 02:50:01+00:00): Bạn có thể cung cấp lý do hoặc hình ảnh trường hợp access="no" tại Vũ Trọng Khánh sang Nguyễn Khuyến?
Dawid2849 (2024-08-13 15:06:45+00:00): Taka nazwa to nie jest nazwa w znaczeniu OSM - to jest opis. Przeniosłem do description
julcnx (2026-06-16 04:08:53+00:00): Hi, some of the ways tagged `surface=clay` in this changeset appear to be laterite roads. `surface=laterite` was approved on 2026-06-15 and describes this surface more precisely. Would you be comfortable retagging? Happy to do it if you prefer. More info: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:surface=laterite
pavvv (2024-07-23 09:13:03+00:00): There's a typo in the name and it seems more like a description than a name.
Gregory Peony (2024-10-25 22:44:23+00:00): The building on the left is appropriately squared and has roughly the correct shape, though it is oversized and the orientation is not accurate. The footprint on the right should also be squared. Thank you for your contribution.
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jogro14 (2024-07-25 08:03:23+00:00): Warum löscht du historische Daten von vergangenen Schienen? Die Daten werden beispielsweise in der https://openrailwaymap.org/ dargestellt. Bitte lies dir das OSM Wiki durch bevor du etwas löscht: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Tag:railway%3Drazed
HellMap (2026-05-27 11:11:53+00:00): Hi,

Just to let you know `access=permit` on OSM means that anyone from public can acquire such a permit. In other words, military areas and most private locations are never `permit` but `private` or `no`.
ika-chan! (2024-07-23 15:47:11+00:00): Sadly, I do not think it is a good idea to split the ways at the toll plaza, mainly because there are reversible lanes, like on the Aston Expressway in Birmingham. I think that we could describe the layout of the merged toll plaza way with lanes:forward=*, lanes:backward=* and lanes:reversible=*.
kiwi75 (2024-07-23 16:22:00+00:00): That's a valid argument, but then again there's always a physical barrier in between that should be captured.
pavvv (2024-07-23 09:07:56+00:00): This height is for 3D rendering. Reverted this.
Mamutinka (2024-07-23 09:56:10+00:00): The key height=* describes the actual height of a feature.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:height
pavvv (2024-07-23 10:47:27+00:00): This tag's usage can be seen all across Wrocław e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/101144574
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1ODq
You've already removed the height of Centennial Hall before (https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/151256314) which broke it's 3D rendering
pavvv (2024-07-23 11:00:57+00:00): If you input a building's total height, even if the highest point is e.g. a small tower, it will render as a big cuboid, covering all elements with building:part=yes and looking very different than in reality. If you really want to denote a building's actual height, then you can add that to the building's relation https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:building
streckenkundler (2024-07-23 09:50:55+00:00): Danke für den Müll, den du hier produzierst! Jetzt hast du Naundorf unsinnigerweise zwei mal in der Adresse: im addr:city und im addr:suburb.

Ich hab es dir schon mehrfach geschrieben: nutze hier in Brandenburg endlich mal die freigegebenen Adressdaten oder lass es. Ich bin maximal genervt über deine Schmiererei!

ärgerliche Grüße,

streckenkundler
streckenkundler (2024-07-23 19:58:18+00:00): Nachtrag... ich habe alle, diese Region betreffende CS revertet...

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/154322398

Was ich in deiner Arbeitsweise fordere, habe ich hinlänglich und mehrfach wiederholt, geschrieben.

Danke,

streckenkundler
Gregory Peony (2024-10-25 22:50:34+00:00): Building footprints are oversized. This seems to have caused further problems like buildings sharing nodes if they are close to one another. Generally: Building footprint <= Building roof, so you can map the footprint slightly smaller than the roof, to give yourself a margin while remaining reasonably accurate.
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flohoff (2024-07-23 10:39:35+00:00): Moin,
hier hast du auch das "zone:traffic" gelöscht - das ist falsch.

Das zone:traffic ist für die Anzeige ob inner oder ausserorts. 

Das ist u.a. für das Parken auf der Fahrbahn etc spannend.

Das source:traffic oder maxspeed:type (gibts doppelt) ist dafür da anzugeben woher eine Geschwindigkeitsbeschränkung kommt.

Flo