piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
Carto'Cité (2022-01-19 10:58:13+00:00): Merci pour ces précieuses informations. En l'état, le calculateur de Transilien peut contourner le portique de la gare routière, car il utilise le routing surfacique sur l'aire piétonne. Il nous faut donc créer une barrière tout autour de la zone contrôlée. Celle-ci intègre toute la partie est de cette aire piétonne, avec un toit bien plus grand qu'avant : c'est bien ça ?
Antoine.
Frans S (2021-11-25 15:35:47+00:00): Thank you for mapping. You have correctly identified the location of most buildings and mapped. Please be sure to square all rectangular buildings with the Q key
Reviewed by a validator at random or as requested. 
FYI. Please view this video about common new mappers mistakes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs5wX592E1o&amp;t=2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltn1VOiq5_0
On this document you will find some hints and tricks which might help to improve your mapping skills
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Swwz-ZwM3_YOstqstsmCg1-lNAPbnMLpi1Al-h-2UOQ/edit
Best regards and keep mapping
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            #REVIEWED_GOOD #OSMCHA
            Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/114227341
mike85k (2021-12-15 02:14:28+00:00): I don't think this is the right shape for this golf course, and it already existed as a much more detailed shaped area within.
Frans S (2021-11-25 15:35:10+00:00): Thanks for your contribution to this project. 
Reviewed by a validator at random or as requested. 
Your mappings are not in according to the HOT quality standards.
Please pay attention on these points:


A: Buildings not accurate drawn.
C: Collecting multiple buildings and mapped as 1 building.
D: Connected nodes of different buildings or objects.

E: Buildings not squared.


Explanation can be found on this document what  might be helpful to improve your mapping skills
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Swwz-ZwM3_YOstqstsmCg1-lNAPbnMLpi1Al-h-2UOQ/edit
More help information:
View this video's about common New mappers Mistakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs5wX592E1o&amp;t=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltn1VOiq5_0
More info can be found on https://learnosm.org/en/beginner/id-editor/


Best regards and keep mapping !
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            #REVIEWED_BAD #OSMCHA
            Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/114227366
Aranc (2021-11-25 15:31:34+00:00): hi, it should render now.

greetings from croatia
SekeRob (2021-11-25 15:50:30+00:00): That's not the point. I now cant save my set as a conflict is flagged and who's is right where? This has resulted in past in multithousand node lines being double written. Bad
Aranc (2021-11-25 16:11:30+00:00): Hi,
ok, next time don't write in changeset comment you have a problem, nobody can bother you that way.
Greetings from Croatia
SekeRob (2021-11-25 16:27:02+00:00): Those Comments are to myself, nobody asked anybody to jump in while mapping is ongoing, it just tells the incidental tourist and lurker that I'm aware, working on it. 

Certainly not going to change my commentaries on my own edit sets, that's for sure, then I know on the next revisit. Drop a mapper a note if you see the solution, much appreciated, and CS conflicts in the system avoided.

Cheers
Aranc (2021-11-25 17:37:44+00:00): Understood, thanks for your reply.
SekeRob (2021-11-25 15:40:49+00:00): Hi, not good you doing this edit while i'm mapping righto here. Now I've got a edit conflict sitting on a large CS.

Thanks for being patient and have left the room.
Riemer17 (2021-11-25 15:32:03+00:00): Het is nog verre van perfect en ik hoop het nog een keer te perfectioneren als de BGT omtrekgericht of betere PDOK luchtfoto's komen
Frans S (2021-11-25 15:49:02+00:00): Hello.
About tagging roads.
You tagged the offgoing roads from the Main highway wrongly. Should be tagged as unclassified.
Best regards
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literan (2021-11-27 14:07:30+00:00): этой правкой вы (видимо, случайно) сдвинули здание торгового центра, надвинув его на дорожки, газоны и прочее https://osmlab.github.io/changeset-map/#114227682

если вы отрисовываете здание с этим карнизом, то надо уж корректно и все остальное делать, а не ломать
literan (2021-11-27 14:09:52+00:00): пока вернул форму основного здания. Если дойдут руки, отрисую козырек частью позже.
Mike Baggaley (2021-12-05 09:08:17+00:00): Hi, welcome to Open Street Map. I hope you are enjoying mapping, but please do not make up names such as #RidePendle in the name tag. Only real names should be tagged. If these ways form part of a cycling route, please see route relations for how they should be tagged.

Cheers,
Mike
DaveF (2022-01-03 01:52:30+00:00): Hi
Concur with the above comment. Could you fix it please, Breaking Cycles CIC.
Casey_boy (2022-01-19 15:51:41+00:00): "#RidePendle" removed from bridleways in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/116347862 and116348143. Others were removed during mapping, these were from an overpass search.
habi (2021-11-25 15:38:37+00:00): Und Parkplätze an den passenderen Ort verschoben, da swisstopo die Lage deren schon zeigt.
osmviborg (2021-11-25 16:05:19+00:00): Hvorfor kalde en række træer for en hæk? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dtree_row
b-holdet (2021-11-25 17:56:21+00:00): Mon ikke det er fordi "hække" er et meget diffust begreb, som dækker ret vidt:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier=hedge?uselang=da#Large_Hedges_or_Field_and_Road_Boundaries

Selv benytter jeg natural=treerow til disse lidt diffuse hegn der markerer skel.
Ernst Poulsen (2021-11-25 17:57:25+00:00): Tag'et hedder "Læhegn/hæk" på dansk og kan bruges til at vise "a line of closely spaced shrubs and tree species, which form a barrier or mark the boundary of an area".

De gængse læhegn på marker består nogle gange af en række træer og nogle gange af en busk-agtig læhegn - og nogle gange af en blanding.

Hvis du kan se, at der reelt er tale om en række træer, skal du selvfølgelig blot rette det.
Frans S (2021-11-26 13:29:58+00:00): Thanks for your contribution to this project. 
Reviewed by a validator at random or as requested. 
This road should be tagged as highway=unclassified. It connects settlements. 
Please read this wiki about tagging highways in African Countries.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa#Typology_of_Road_Network_in_African_countries

Explanation can be found on this document what  might be helpful to improve your mapping skills
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Swwz-ZwM3_YOstqstsmCg1-lNAPbnMLpi1Al-h-2UOQ/edit
More help information:
View this video's about common New mappers Mistakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs5wX592E1o&amp;t=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltn1VOiq5_0
More info can be found on https://learnosm.org/en/beginner/id-editor/


Best regards and keep mapping !
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            #REVIEWED_BAD #OSMCHA
            Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/114228327
Frans S (2021-11-26 13:27:48+00:00): Thanks for your contribution to this project. 
Reviewed by a validator at random or as requested. 
Your mappings are not in according to the HOT quality standards.
Please pay attention on these points:
A: Buildings not always accurate drawn.
E: Rectangular Buildings not always squared.

Explanation can be found on this document what  might be helpful to improve your mapping skills
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Swwz-ZwM3_YOstqstsmCg1-lNAPbnMLpi1Al-h-2UOQ/edit
More help information:
View this video's about common New mappers Mistakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs5wX592E1o&amp;t=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltn1VOiq5_0
More info can be found on https://learnosm.org/en/beginner/id-editor/


Best regards and keep mapping !
            ---
            #REVIEWED_BAD #OSMCHA
            Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/114228385
MichMat97 (2021-11-25 15:54:53+00:00): #ogd1_2021
Frans S (2021-11-26 13:26:41+00:00): Thanks for your contribution to this project. 
Reviewed by a validator at random or as requested. 
Your mappings are not in according to the HOT quality standards.
Please pay attention on these points:
A: Buildings not always accurate drawn.
E: Rectangular Buildings not always squared.

Explanation can be found on this document what  might be helpful to improve your mapping skills
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Swwz-ZwM3_YOstqstsmCg1-lNAPbnMLpi1Al-h-2UOQ/edit
More help information:
View this video's about common New mappers Mistakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs5wX592E1o&amp;t=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltn1VOiq5_0
More info can be found on https://learnosm.org/en/beginner/id-editor/


Best regards and keep mapping !
            ---
            #REVIEWED_BAD #OSMCHA
            Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/114228531
MxxCon (2021-11-26 23:33:02+00:00): Hello.
Looking at the satellite imagery and shows there, it seems like it's a rooftop seating area? No idea if it's open to public or private.
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SomeoneElse_Revert (2022-03-01 18:38:13+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 117961003, 117970393, 117965218, 117980733 where the changeset comment is: Following a complaint about invalid edits, and a lack of decent reply (see https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=414659 , https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Max_Kritic/blocks ) reverting changesets where _only_ osmose was used.
skquinn (2021-11-29 06:40:02+00:00): If this change set is about Madagascar, how is the southern US getting included in the bounding box?
Frans S (2021-11-26 13:24:32+00:00): Thank you for mapping. You have correctly identified the location of most buildings and mapped. Please be sure to square all rectangular buildings with the Q key
Reviewed by a validator at random or as requested. 
FYI. Please view this video about common new mappers mistakes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs5wX592E1o&amp;t=2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltn1VOiq5_0
On this document you will find some hints and tricks which might help to improve your mapping skills
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Swwz-ZwM3_YOstqstsmCg1-lNAPbnMLpi1Al-h-2UOQ/edit
Best regards and keep mapping
            ---
            #REVIEWED_GOOD #OSMCHA
            Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/114229249
Tomas Straupis (2021-11-25 17:05:21+00:00): Hello. Please do not apply incorrect iD suggestions to "upgrade" tags - they are all wrong - you're damaging good data. iD is a terribly bad editor. Change reverted.
user_8101879 (2021-11-27 17:33:42+00:00): Ok, no problem.
Because of your comment I just read that :
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/6589

And I understand your point of view even if personally I prefer ID's point of view.
Best regards
Enock4seth (2021-11-29 10:47:04+00:00): Welcome to OpenStreetMap, please do map what you are unsure about, thanks. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/How_We_Map
Enock4seth (2021-11-29 10:48:02+00:00): You can find more information about OpenStreetMap here https://welcome.openstreetmap.org/
eggie (2021-11-25 16:46:56+00:00): Welkom bij OpenStreetMap. Ik heb een uitgebreid welkomstbericht met wat handige tips en links gestuurd als privebericht. 
Feedback.. Je bedoeling is natuurlijk goed, maar er horen geen adresgegevens op de gebouwomtrek. Er is al een adresnode. 

MVG, 

Eggie 

Namens de OSM Community
user_5359 (2021-11-26 14:57:21+00:00): Hello! Please have a look on the three relation https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2078076, https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5920986, https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6149052
There is a difference between language code (lowercase) and country code (uppercase).
network:DE 	DB InterCityExpress
network:DE:wikidata 	Q129172
network:DE:wikipedia 	de:Intercity-Express
network:FR 	SNCF TGV
network:FR:wikidata 	Q129337
network:FR:wikipedia 	fr:TGV
Frans S (2021-11-26 13:23:16+00:00): Thanks for your contribution to this project. 
Reviewed by a validator at random or as requested. 
Your mappings are not in according to the HOT quality standards.
Please pay attention on these points:

E: Rectangular Buildings not always squared.

Explanation can be found on this document what  might be helpful to improve your mapping skills
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Swwz-ZwM3_YOstqstsmCg1-lNAPbnMLpi1Al-h-2UOQ/edit
More help information:
View this video's about common New mappers Mistakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs5wX592E1o&amp;t=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltn1VOiq5_0
More info can be found on https://learnosm.org/en/beginner/id-editor/


Best regards and keep mapping !
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            #REVIEWED_BAD #OSMCHA
            Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/114229991
Colin Smale (2021-11-26 19:19:29+00:00): You might want to revert this and discuss it first. It could be considered controversial.
Trevor_1 (2021-11-26 19:32:25+00:00): Ok, I just reverted it. But do you think these points are still needed?
Colin Smale (2021-11-26 21:42:46+00:00): I am not sure whether they are "needed" or not. That is very subjective - you might not see the point of label nodes, but clearly many people do. That's why you should discuss such things instead of deleting other people's work.
Hidoo00 (2025-10-13 17:36:30+00:00): Hej! Hur kom du fram till nya hastighetsgränser som skiljer sig från den skyltade? Kan klart ha hänt en del på fyra år men nu skiljer sig OSM från NJDB, och jag tänker att NJDB borde väl innehålla den gällande gränsen?
eggie (2021-11-25 16:52:01+00:00): Kijk even hier hoe je boven correct tagt.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural=tree


species=* - scientific name of the species (popularly known as the Latin name). Please use the namespaces for local languages (see examples).
en species:nl= Rode beuk

MVG
eggie
eggie (2021-11-25 16:52:22+00:00): boven??  > typo bomen
abakus_uploader (2021-11-25 23:31:08+00:00): (Wiadomość automatyczna)
Cześć!
Otrzymujesz ten komentarz, ponieważ dodałeś lub zmodyfikowałeś adres, który jest niepełny lub błędny.
Adres powinien zawierać minimum trzy znaczniki: addr:city=[nazwa_miejscowosci] + addr:street=[nazwa_ulicy] + addr:housenumber=[numer_porządkowy].
Wyjątkiem są miejscowości bez nazwanych ulic - wtedy stosujemy znaczniki: addr:place=[nazwa_miejscowosci] + addr:housenumber=[numer_porządkowy].
Bez poprawnego oznaczenia adresów, nie będą one brane pod uwagę przez wyszukiwarki, dlatego warto je dostosować do ww. schematu (w zależności od sytuacji).
Więcej informacji na forum: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=5632 - a pytania najlepiej zadawać tu: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=681873
Pozdrawiamy!
lyctkel (2022-07-01 08:01:18+00:00): Hi omar_guc,
currently I'm investigating some rarely used building=* tags.
In the process I found https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1006213141/ which uses building=Trumpf.
This tag is only used here. Did you mean name=Trumpf and building=yes?
If you have questions, please feel free to contact me.
Regards,
lyctkel
ScottNelson (2021-12-02 20:13:45+00:00): Which version of the trail map did you base this edit on?  Olympic cross-country and Olympic Nordic Combined are the naming used on the latest map.  I don't think the red/blue name variants have been used for a number of years.  I think you may have based this edit on an old map, and actually made the names incorrect.
cafferrie (2021-12-02 20:23:14+00:00): I have been in contact with staff at WOP in the last couple weeks and they will soon publish a new map that includes going back to the old Olympic Red/Blue names for their future race calendar. These changes were based on the new map that has the old names
ScottNelson (2021-12-02 20:31:39+00:00): Cool I see that they have the new (old) names for these trails, and a few others (Zoey's Saunter) list on their website already, just not on the pdf map.  FYI I made an edit today to correct tagging on the backcountry access route relationship but it should not affect the XC trail tags and relationships.  I had to repartition some segments on Olympic XC Red
cafferrie (2021-12-02 20:35:55+00:00): Yeah kinda neat to see the throwbacks. And yes a few other small trail name changes/additions/subtractions.
Sounds good!
Frans S (2021-11-26 13:22:09+00:00): Thanks for your contribution to this project. 
Reviewed by a validator at random or as requested. 
Your mappings are not in according to the HOT quality standards.
Please pay attention on these points:
A: Buildings not always accurate drawn.
E: Rectangular Buildings not always squared.

Explanation can be found on this document what  might be helpful to improve your mapping skills
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Swwz-ZwM3_YOstqstsmCg1-lNAPbnMLpi1Al-h-2UOQ/edit
More help information:
View this video's about common New mappers Mistakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs5wX592E1o&amp;t=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltn1VOiq5_0
More info can be found on https://learnosm.org/en/beginner/id-editor/


Best regards and keep mapping !
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            #REVIEWED_BAD #OSMCHA
            Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/114231049
GinaroZ (2021-11-26 13:55:27+00:00): You've indicated capacity=5 - if there are 5 bike stands then normal it would be a capacity of 10 as you can park one each side :)
Mike Baggaley (2021-12-05 08:51:39+00:00): Hi Welcome to Open Street Map, I hope you are enjoying mapping. Please note that names should only be added where an object has a real name. Please do not use descriptions of the use of features as names.

Regards,
Mike
AllotmentCyclist (2021-12-05 17:31:50+00:00): Thanks for welcome and the advice. The name seems to have been removed now so I assume you corrected it. Thankyou.

Chris
Frans S (2021-11-26 13:19:31+00:00): Thank you for mapping. You have correctly identified the location of most buildings and mapped. Please be sure to square all rectangular buildings with the Q key
Reviewed by a validator at random or as requested. 
FYI. Please view this video about common new mappers mistakes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs5wX592E1o&amp;t=2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltn1VOiq5_0
On this document you will find some hints and tricks which might help to improve your mapping skills
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Swwz-ZwM3_YOstqstsmCg1-lNAPbnMLpi1Al-h-2UOQ/edit
Best regards and keep mapping
            ---
            #REVIEWED_GOOD #OSMCHA
            Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/114232130
Mateusz Konieczny (2024-02-21 22:13:16+00:00): Hello! https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/452092410/history has p=pedestrian key that was added in this edit (if I checked things correctly)
What you intended to express by using this unusual key? Is this tag needed? Or maybe can it be expressed in a more typical way that would be easier to understand?
Frans S (2021-11-26 13:18:48+00:00): Thanks for your contribution to this project. 
Reviewed by a validator at random or as requested. 
Your mappings are not in according to the HOT quality standards.
Please pay attention on these points:
A: Buildings not always accurate drawn.
C: Collecting multiple buildings and mapped as 1 building.
D: Connected nodes of different buildings or objects
E: Rectangular Buildings not always squared.
H: Incorporated the yard or a clearing into the mapping.

Explanation can be found on this document what  might be helpful to improve your mapping skills
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Swwz-ZwM3_YOstqstsmCg1-lNAPbnMLpi1Al-h-2UOQ/edit
More help information:
View this video's about common New mappers Mistakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs5wX592E1o&amp;t=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltn1VOiq5_0
More info can be found on https://learnosm.org/en/beginner/id-editor/


Best regards and keep mapping !
            ---
            #REVIEWED_BAD #OSMCHA
            Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/114232359
Frans S (2021-11-26 13:16:32+00:00): Thank you for mapping. You have correctly identified the location of most buildings and mapped. Please be sure to square all rectangular buildings with the Q key
Just a remark.  Don't connect nodes of different buildings or objects
Reviewed by a validator at random or as requested. 
FYI. Please view this video about common new mappers mistakes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs5wX592E1o&amp;t=2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltn1VOiq5_0
On this document you will find some hints and tricks which might help to improve your mapping skills
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Swwz-ZwM3_YOstqstsmCg1-lNAPbnMLpi1Al-h-2UOQ/edit
Best regards and keep mapping
            ---
            #REVIEWED_GOOD #OSMCHA
            Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/114232585
BCNorwich (2021-11-25 18:53:28+00:00): Hi, Welcome to OpenStreetMap.

I've redrawn the path as it was crossing over another path and over a wall, it was also joined to the wall.

Need any help please just ask.

Regards Bernard.
kartler175 (2021-11-26 10:51:02+00:00): Bitte beschäftige dich mit der Bedeutung von Rollen bei Multipolygonen, bevor Du einfach drauflos änderst.
StefanHRT (2021-11-25 17:56:59+00:00): Hallo,
Schön das Du OSM aktualisierst, aber eine Bitte, lass das Feld name bitte frei. Deine vielen "Garten Laube" wurden eben bereits entsprechend korrigiert. Falls Du Dir unsicher bist, nutze bitte zuerst die Wiki unm zu schauen wie etwas richtig getaggt wird ;) VG
Frans S (2021-11-26 13:05:19+00:00): Thank you for mapping. You have correctly identified the location of most buildings and mapped. Please be sure to square all rectangular buildings with the Q key
Reviewed by a validator at random or as requested. 
FYI. Please view this video about common new mappers mistakes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs5wX592E1o&amp;t=2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltn1VOiq5_0
On this document you will find some hints and tricks which might help to improve your mapping skills
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Swwz-ZwM3_YOstqstsmCg1-lNAPbnMLpi1Al-h-2UOQ/edit
Best regards and keep mapping
            ---
            #REVIEWED_GOOD #OSMCHA
            Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/114233231
AgusQui (2021-11-27 20:31:14+00:00): Por favor no agregues etiquetas public_transport a estaciones que no tienen servicios de pasajeros. Te dejo mas info: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/AgusQui/diary/396933
Frans S (2021-11-26 13:04:21+00:00): Thanks for your contribution to this project. 
Reviewed by a validator at random or as requested. 
Your mappings are not in according to the HOT quality standards.
Please pay attention on these points:

A: Buildings not always accurate drawn.
E: Rectangular Buildings not always squared.

Explanation can be found on this document what  might be helpful to improve your mapping skills
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Swwz-ZwM3_YOstqstsmCg1-lNAPbnMLpi1Al-h-2UOQ/edit
More help information:
View this video's about common New mappers Mistakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs5wX592E1o&amp;t=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltn1VOiq5_0
More info can be found on https://learnosm.org/en/beginner/id-editor/


Best regards and keep mapping !
            ---
            #REVIEWED_BAD #OSMCHA
            Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/114233635
josmougn (2021-11-28 14:26:44+00:00): bonjour, je trouve très curieux d'ajouter foot=no à des voies comme "Avenue de Provence (1005651314)", d'abord parce que c'est faux (il n'y a pas de panneau d’interdiction aux piétons) et ensuite parce que ça risque de rendre inefficace les outils de routage à pied. 
Par ailleurs pour la plupart des "highway="  la valeur foot=no est implicite et il n'est pas nécessaire de la rajouter. Bonne fin de journée, José.
Harvesterify (2021-11-28 16:26:57+00:00): Bonjour,

Comme la source l'indique, c'est une simple réponse à une quête StreetComplete.

Il n'y a pas d'interdiction explicite pour piétons ici, cependant je ne pense pas qu'une personne s'engageant à pied à cet endroit ait une volonté de vivre très prononcée (la vitesse n'est pas élevée en approche de rond point, mais cette portion de route est uniquement réservée à des véhicules motorisés : pas de trottoir, et les deux bas côté ont pas vocation à être empruntés à pied)