piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
Nick Henwood (2015-01-29 10:54:54+00:00): Hello,
thanks for getting back to me.

To give you a little background - 
My wife and I live on Hamilton Estate - a new-build (former green field) estate on the north side of Hamilton.

The builder / developer of our estate appeared to make quite random choices for street names - all over the estate... that have little bearing on the landscape or history. 

We are aware that the Lubbesthorpe area (where I have begun to mark field names) will, over the next 15-20 years be the setting for a large new estate of some 4,500 homes. 

Both my parents were raised on farms in Cornwall. Farmers have passed-down memories of field names. There are other sources too, which generally correlate with the names that local people use - especially the Tithe maps of approx 1840. 

In 1967-8 The Women's Institute across Leicestershire set to on a remarkable project - they realised that, with reducing rural population (mechanisation meant that fewer people worked on the land) the memory of field names was being lost. Therefore, they attempted to document the nation's field names. 

I have researched their document for Lubbesthorpe (at Leicestershire / Rutland County Archives, Wigston, Leicester) and can send an e-copy of their document to you.

My thinking is that, Open Street Map would be a good place to plot this information - so that, once I draw the developer's / local council's attention to the map they / we can assign street names to the new estate that have a link to existing names. There are, of course, other ideas for finding street names too, including significant local people or the local destinations of roads.  

But I am also realising that, once the development begins, then the landscape will change (and no longer be farm land...) so the fields, one by one, as they are built on, will need to be assigned to history as the estate grows... but this will be an interesting journey over the next 20 years...

Do you have any thoughts?
Would it be OK for me to continue this project?
Or do you have another suggestion as to how to disseminate this interesting historical information - that can be of use over these next years?

With many thanks
Nick 


Dr Nick Henwood

GP in Eyers Monsell, Leicester
Warden, Hope Hamilton Church
International Health advisor

nick@henwoodfamily.co.uk
Tel: 0116  2464657
Mobile: 07906  421379
trigpoint (2015-01-30 21:18:02+00:00): Hi Nick
It would be useful to see the document, openstreetmap is very strict on using open sources of data. I hope it is ok, because I think it is good stuff.

I will PM you my email address.
From a tagging point of view, name should only be used for things that can be seen on the ground, so in this case the tag to use is name:historic.

Thanks Phil
Nick Henwood (2015-02-02 10:31:44+00:00): Hello Phil,

It looks like (from wiki) that I should use the tag "old-name"
Is that right? I could not see the tag name:historic.

I've edited the field name at the north western end of the string of fields I've plotted - but the name does not appear to show now.

Is there a way of getting OSM to show this historic name when browsing normally, or printing out a map - or will the old_name only be visible one field at a time and not printable?

Any thoughts about how I can get this info available to planners / developer in an easy-to-see way?

As far as I am aware, even though not labelled on the ground, these field names are the current names that local people refer to the land by (so they are actual, not only historic). It would be great if they could be directly visible on openstreetmap.

Yours,
Nick
trigpoint (2015-02-02 14:44:36+00:00): Hi Nick
Others within the OSM community believe that the correct tag to use is field_name, and we certainly think this is valuable information.
I have changed the fields that you have added to reflect this.
Openstreetmap is primarily a geographical database, that can be rendered in multiple ways, the mapnik renderer that you see on the main site is just one of many. A future wish of mine is a walking render that shows stiles, gates and contours. 

There are various tools which allow you to produce your own maps, http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/ is one and overpass turbo will also display maps with custom data. This link will display the field_name tags for Lubbesthorpe.
This does look an interesting project, so definitely go ahead.
Phil
Nick Henwood (2015-02-04 17:16:51+00:00): Hello Phil,
your umap / overpass ideas look interesting - but rather beyond me, I'm afraid. 
I'm trying to build a view that shows the text label field_name for those areas which have a value for the tab field-name. I've tried a few ideas into the overpass wizard without success and don't seem able to find a tutorial that tells how to display tabs... but it must be easy - for example to chose to display a OSM with just German transliterated names on it, or similar...
Can you give me some quick hints please. 

Yours,
Nick
trigpoint (2015-02-04 21:55:13+00:00): Hi Nick
Sorry, I thought I had pasted the overpass link but I have just realised I forgot it.
This should run and display the names so far, http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/7uB
As you add more fields, you will need to adjust the map area and then press run.

Cheers
Phil
Nick Henwood (2015-02-09 21:06:44+00:00): Hi Phil,
that's amazing!
I've had a little go at using the wizard... and have not quite got it... but you've done the work now!
Cheers,
Nick
Nakaner (2015-09-30 22:25:39+00:00): Geschwindigkeitsangaben sind standardmäßig wie eigentlich fast alles metrisch, in diesem Fall km/h als Standardwert. maxspeed="100 km/h" verstehen deshalb die meisten Datennutzer gar nicht.
Firefishy (2015-02-15 22:12:32+00:00): Hey Flashatstar

That was a particularly bad typo of Makro Store Cape Gate. Best to be careful.

Kind regards,
Grant
4rch (2015-02-05 12:17:13+00:00): Warum hast du die Relation von Schönberg gelöscht? http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4139252
Aus dem Changeset-Kommentar geht dies leider nicht hervor.
Chaedouin (2015-02-05 21:06:52+00:00): Danke für Deinen Hiinweis. Da es als Fehlerdiskussion in der Karte war, habe ich es im Changeset-Kommentar vergessen.
Chaedouin (2015-02-05 21:09:09+00:00): Die eingezeichntete Lage war nicht richtig. Ich habe von Bekannten erfahren, dass die Grnze südlich des Friedhofs etwa entlang der B254 verläuft und dann Diagonal über den Friedhof und Riebelsdorfer Weg und Eisenkraut kreuzt. Die veröffentlichten Einwohnerzahlen decken sich auch eher mit dieser Grenzführung als mit der eingezeichneten Grenzführung entlang der Schwalm.
4rch (2015-02-06 08:49:58+00:00): Danke, dann hake ich das mal auf der Liste mit kürzlich gelöschten administrativen Einheiten [1] ab ;)

[1] http://osm.wno-edv-service.de:82/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=92
h_i_ (2015-02-01 20:58:53+00:00): Warum hast du teilweise Gebäude eingezeichnet, die gar nicht existieren? Ich habe sie zumindest dort noch nie gesehen :-).
trigpoint (2015-01-28 17:52:58+00:00): Thats a very spammy changeset comment.

Do you occupy the entire building, or just have an office inside it?
aceman444 (2015-01-28 20:30:13+00:00): Dobry den, prosim piste zmysluplnejsie komentare k sadam zmien.
Vacsina zmien vyzera OK, ale co bolo zle na tej skolke? Nezabera skola celu budovu? Potom by Vasa zmena bola v poriadku.
Veronika K (2015-01-28 23:38:04+00:00): Dobry vecer, prepacte tie komentare uz budem popisovat detailnejsie. Skolka by mala byt v celej budove, ale nakolko som myslela, ze by sa symbol prideleny k skolam nezobrazil na mape (tak ako sa zobrazuje pri inych objektoch), tak som zvolila takyto typ oznacenia ... Kedze sa zobrazil v mape len nazov, tak uz som to neopravovala naspat.
aceman444 (2015-01-29 17:32:44+00:00): Skolky (a niektore dalsie vacsie "amenity", ako skoly, univerzity, nemocnice) sa v najlepsom pripade davaju na cely areal okolo prislusnych budov (napriklad, plot okolo skoly). Napr. je tak urobena skola v Senkviciach juznejsie odtialto. Ak areal nie je znamy, potom na budovu. Ak zariadenie nezabera celu budovu, potom na bod v nej. Ak sa symbol nezobrazuje, je to asi chyba vykreslovaca, alebo vobec ziadny symbol nema, ako v tomto pripade. Snazime sa neprisposobovat znackovanie konkretnemu vykreslovacu (napr. tomu na www.openstreetmap.org), ale tak ako je to spravne. Dam to teda na areal. Dakujem.
Veronika K (2015-01-29 23:00:58+00:00): V poriadku. Dakujem za blizsie objasnenie oznacovania.
SomeoneElse (2015-02-05 01:37:34+00:00): Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!

I notice that you've removed the name:sr from http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1974025441/history  If the majority of people locally refer to it as "Dren" rather than "Дрен" then it does make sense for the "name" in OpenStreetMap to be "Dren" rather than "Дрен".  However, if both names are in use, or were in use relatively recently, then it makes sense to keep the "name:sr" set to "Дрен", even though the "name" is "Dren".

Obviously I'm aware that the language used for the names of places is very sensitive in the area, and unfortunately there have been people renaming places in Kosovo back to Serbian (places where there isn't a Serb-speaking majority locally).

Anyway - hope this helps; if you've any questions please don't hesitate to get in touch.

Best Regards,
Andy Townsend, on behalf of the OpenStreetMap Data Working Group.
rickmastfan67 (2015-02-11 02:27:59+00:00): I don't know how you did this, but you broke an intersection along West Carson Street here in Pittsburgh with this changeset.  Somehow, you removed a node from this way ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/54223992 ), which disconnected a connecting road, which somehow retained the node you removed from West Carson Street.  I've fixed the intersection in Changeset 28764766.
SK53 (2015-02-16 18:05:38+00:00): Interesting, possibly an editor bug in potlatch 2.0, or a keyboard glitch (which I've noted in past couple of days), or just possibly a case of editor not loading everything. I was almost entirely using the simplify option to reduce the node count on TIGER imported ways, which then makes it WAY easier to then improve their geometry. So I dont think I was doing any specific node edits & AFAIK the simplify method doesnt touch nodes with tags or more than one owner.

As a (very) former resident it's good to know someone is keeping an eye on the Pittsburgh area.
rickmastfan67 (2015-02-18 10:03:28+00:00): Well, I do try to keep a tab on all changesets in the Pittsburgh area when I have the to look at them.  Thank goodness for the RSS feed of the local changesets I have. :)
Genosk (2015-01-28 17:49:42+00:00): Sportstätter der SG Bockenheim (Kegelverein)
SomeoneElse (2015-01-29 12:47:48+00:00): Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap.  What exactly is http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/325048641 ?  Is it something that you can actually see on the ground?
andrewsh (2015-01-29 12:49:04+00:00): Seems like a new branch of Eurotunnel…
andrewsh (2015-01-29 12:54:41+00:00): Mergen, I think it's not a good idea to add low-cost flights to OSM, at least not in the specific way you did.

Добавлять лоукостеры в ОСМ — не самая лучшая идея вообще, ну и точно уж не таким способом, как это сделано в этом случае.
zool (2015-02-05 20:11:08+00:00): OpenStreetMap is an attempt to make an accurate map of the observable world.
aceman444 (2015-02-11 16:30:44+00:00): On the other hand, there already are ferry (ship) routes (on water) in OSM.
Mergen (2015-02-11 16:44:50+00:00): Блин, я вообще не хотел выгружать это в OSM. В общем, я нуб и накосячил по полной. Пытался освоиться в JOSM, но видимо что-то пошло не так, только сейчас заметил. Как вообще можно удалить всё это?

Oh my... I didn't expected that it uploaded into OSM. I've tried to learn how to work in JOSM, I'm totally noob, so seems like that I've failed everything. I noticed only today, long time haven't checked e-mail. How can I undo everything I did?
SomeoneElse (2015-02-11 16:47:02+00:00): @Mergen - don't worry, it's not there any more :)

We've all made mistakes like this - the only people who haven't have never tried to do anything in the first place!
Geo-Tobi (2024-10-06 11:29:38+00:00): Gleiches hier 😉
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/325050353
Hjart (2015-01-28 23:25:25+00:00): På dette stykke er der nu 2 parallelle stiforløb. Den helt ude ved vandet og så den længere inde, der hedder "Fjordsti". Hvilken er den korrekte?
Aaron Lidman (2015-01-29 21:31:31+00:00): Test test. Did you get an email?
hspaans (2015-01-29 12:11:20+00:00): Dit is nog geen supermarkt, maar de aankondiging om een supermarkt hier op te richten. Aangezien dit alleen een aankondiging is ivm de benodigde vergunningen en de website ah.nl ook geen indicatie geeft hier nu een vestiging te hebben is het verstandig om deze wijziging terug te draaien.
streckenkundler (2015-01-29 07:33:23+00:00): Hallo,

wenn das Straßenstück eine bicycle-road ist, dann sollte es auch entsprechend erfasst werden. Da du mit JOSM arbeitest, findest du da auch eine entsprechende Vorlage Fahradstraßen. 
Entsprechend der Breite (ca. 2,5m im Luftbild) und der weiteren Nutzung: Landwirtschaftsfahrzeuge, Forstfahrzeuge, Zufahrt zu dem an der besagten Straße liegenden Grundstück, kann der weg kein highway=cycleway sein. Darüberhinaus bekommen Fahrradstraßen ein bicycle_road=yes. Die Tag-Gruppe highway=cycleway, bicycle=*, foot=* sollte ausschließlich als Fahrradweg ausgeschilderte Wege vorbehalten sein (Verkehrszeichen 240 und 241)

Wenn du schreibst, daß es eine Fahrradstraße ist, dann ist unter den gegebenen Dingen sogar ein highway=unclassified +bicycle_road=yes+ access-Tags korrekt.

Ergänzende Frage: geht da auch eine Radroute lang? z.B. Historische Stadtkerne, sorbische Impressionen o. Ä.?

Sven
M!dgard (2019-01-01 00:46:30+00:00): Hi, the postal codes don't map one to one to municipalities. We have complete postal code coverage with postal_code tags, so you shouldn't add them on administrative boundaries.

Kind regards
muralito (2015-02-04 20:54:32+00:00): Este cambio rompio la relacion de limites de Quintas del Bosque.

Por favor no unir calles innecesariamente sin tener en cuenta las relaciones.
ika-chan! UK-USA (2015-02-05 07:46:15+00:00): You appear to have deleted a whole area without a reason.
ika-chan! UK-USA (2015-02-05 07:52:13+00:00): Oh, sorry, I posted the comment to the wrong changeset.
muhtrafa (2015-01-28 23:09:31+00:00): test
ika-chan! UK-USA (2015-02-05 07:53:16+00:00): You appear to have deleted a whole area without a reason. If it was not intentional, please be careful. If it was deliberate, we'd rather you would not be that reckless.
DaveF (2017-01-25 11:00:59+00:00): Hi
Is it construction or meadow? It can't be both.
Mike Baggaley (2017-01-25 11:06:32+00:00): no idea, all I did is correct a spelling mistake
DaveF (2017-01-25 11:12:51+00:00): Apologies. I clicked on the incorrect changeset.
naoliv (2015-02-04 17:12:19+00:00): Erick, você apagou alguns caminhos que estavam sendo utilizados em relações de limite administrativo.
O validador do JOSM informa sobre isso (que o multipolígono não está fechado)
edmontongeo (2015-01-29 17:00:45+00:00): Testing the changeset notifications
naoliv (2015-01-29 00:19:32+00:00): O que exatamente você quis representar nesta sua edição?
Henriquew (2015-01-29 13:45:13+00:00): o condominio the address com terreno
SomeoneElse (2015-01-29 12:37:08+00:00): Hi, I notice that you've made some wide-ranging changes including http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/152929291/history changing "amenity=consulate" to "amenity=embassy".  Was this change discussed anywhere beforehand, so that data consumers who would have been expecting "amenity=consulate" knew to change their processes?
Serpens (2015-01-29 22:31:46+00:00): Yes, you are right, I should have done this first. :-(
I simply saw that only around 50 objects are tagged with amenity=consulate, but around 1000 consulates are tagged with amenity=embassy (hundreds of them together with diplomatic=consulate or similar). So, I just wanted to bring all consulates to one systematic tagging scheme.
kangirigungi (2018-08-20 18:37:06+00:00): Hi. You added drinking_water=no tag to the fountains. There are taps on them, and no sign that the water is not drinkable. Where did you get the information that it is not drinkable?
flohoff (2015-02-17 10:41:14+00:00): Hi,
ich habe gerade in diesem Changeset Gebäude entdeckt die vom Luftbild abgenommen sind. Das macht so keinen Sinn. Bitte benutz wenn dann das NRW ALK und am besten gleich das Tracer Plugin vom JOSM. Ansonsten können wir das alles irgendwann nochmal machen. Und wenn du Adressen einträgst dann bitte gleich mit Postleitzahl und City - Gerade im Grenzbereich ist das wichtig ansonsten ist die zuordnung zur Gemeinde nicht klar.
rarad74 (2015-01-29 04:02:10+00:00): De unde stii ca blocul ala este numarul 10, cand vad ca deja este pus numarul 16 in dreptul lui? Blocurile se pun ca big apartments house ( building=apartments) nu ca rezidential.
achoodaulat (2015-01-29 04:05:22+00:00): wah salah iki brooooo....
tyos (2015-02-08 19:02:07+00:00): There's something wrong with this import.

In the editors, most of the buildings are showing up as disconnected points.  Only some of them are showing up as buildings.

I've tried all three major editors: ID, Potlatch, and JOSM.  The same problem shows up in all three editors.
muralito (2015-01-29 19:43:37+00:00): ¿El monumento no clasifica mejor como "historic=memorial"?
Víctor L (2015-02-05 14:58:31+00:00): Puede ser. Dado que el lugar es un parque dedicado a la Memoria de los Héroes Comunes a Ambos Pueblos.
muralito (2015-01-29 19:40:14+00:00): Victor:

Basandome en la imagen Bing, tengo dudas sobre este cambio, en particular sobre la "marina" (donde no parece haber) y el "place=neighbourhood" en un lugar que no parece habitado.
Víctor L (2015-02-05 15:53:09+00:00): Hasta no hace mucho tiempo, antes de que la Isla Timoteo Dominguez (isla formada por sedimentos aluvionales) se fusione con la Isla Matín García, el puerto estaba en esa zona. Cuando se hizo inviable e imposible su navegabilidad, el mismo se trasladó a su actual lugar.
muralito (2015-02-05 17:30:05+00:00): Bien, pero como ahora no es "marina", entonces creo que no habria que mapearlo de esa forma.
Nakaner (2015-03-27 09:40:10+00:00): usage=* + service=* auf demselben Gleis ist ein Taggingfehler, ausgenommen Industriebahnen (usage=industrial) und Militärbahnen (usage=military). Details siehe OpenRailwayMap-Taggingschema. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/32668659/history In Potsdam habe ich es korrigiert.
Setti (2015-05-28 09:17:30+00:00): Moin,

warum hast du way: 325137590  von way: 325137690 in Elstal getrennt? Meines Wissens sind beide baulich verbunden?
MFG Sebastian
basti2k (2015-11-14 12:33:40+00:00): Durch dieses Changeset sind diverse Fehler in den Relations "associatedStreet" in Wustermark / Elstal entstanden.
Dort wo es mir aufgefallen ist, habe ich die Fehler schon korrigiert.
emacsen (2015-01-29 11:55:34+00:00): SPAM.

Changeset reverted. Message sent to admin to have account closed.
surveyor54 (2015-01-29 09:44:25+00:00): Als neuer tag wurde eingetragen:

wheelchair:description=existiert nicht mehr

Das versteh ich nicht. 
Existiert der Pub nicht mehr, dann müssen die tags amenity=pub und name=BlueSKY entfernt werden.
luiswoo (2015-01-29 19:11:01+00:00): По-русски будет "Изобильная улица" http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%8F/%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%88%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B5_%D0%BE%D0%B1_%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B8_%D0%B4%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B3

Эта улица относиться к хутору Большой Лог?
d1g (2015-02-06 17:47:01+00:00): Вандал без знаний местности!
Weide (2015-01-30 13:22:30+00:00): Das Verschieben des platform-Node 330297295 auf die Fahrbahn und Umtaggen als stop_position hat Relationen beschädigt.
Discostu36 (2020-09-06 20:27:55+00:00): Dass der Solarpark als Multipolygon nicht ausgewertet wird (wo auch immer), ist kein Argument für suboptimales Tagging. Ich habe das daher korrigiert.
maxphizik (2015-02-04 17:25:48+00:00): Привет, в этой правке ты удалил точку населённого пункта Козулька, по имеющимся договорённостям у населённого пункта должна быть и точка и линия-граница. Я вернул точку на место.
Ещё о населённых пунктах можешь почитать здесь: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Key:place
SomeoneElse (2015-01-29 11:09:41+00:00): Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap!

Just spotted that you'd added a number of what are probably buildings (like http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/325172824) here.  If they are buildings, then add a "building" tag (a value of "yes" will do if you don't want to be more specific).  That way, the software that displays things on maps will know to display a building here, with the name that you've already used.

Oh - and any other questions, don't hesitate to ask.

Best Regards, Andy
SomeoneElse (2015-01-29 23:43:19+00:00): https://github.com/mapbox/map-feedback/issues/567 seems to be an unaccessible link; would it be possible to explain what it says?
andygol (2015-01-30 18:57:58+00:00):  this is issue about adding POI "Арт-кафе “Гвоздь”" https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/167067526
SomeoneElse (2015-01-30 19:17:17+00:00): You seem to have added a name, so did the issue which we can't read say "the name of this cafe is ..." or similar?
andygol (2015-01-31 09:10:37+00:00): Yes, the feedback is the same as I wrote:

> Place name "Арт-кафе “Гвоздь”"

that is all
eggie (2022-08-11 12:58:37+00:00): Hoi Commodoortje.. Wellicht wil jij nog even kijken, want nu hebben we amenity in amenity...

Zie actie nieuwe mapper..
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/124774405

MVG
eggie
Commodoortje (2022-08-13 21:42:19+00:00): Inmiddels aanpassing verricht
eggie (2022-08-13 21:45:47+00:00): Thanks..
Groet..
Eggie
aceman444 (2015-06-03 20:40:17+00:00): Dobry den, na bode 3318439316 ste zadali znacku "amenity=Mo-Fr 7:00-15:30". To vyzera ako nezmysel. Co to chcelo byt?
Nakaner (2015-04-26 18:01:08+00:00): Danke, dass du dich ein wenig um das Tagging der BOStrab-Bahnen in Essen kümmerst.

Meins du nicht auch, dass das zwischen Karlsplatz und Arenbergstraße etwas viel Hin- und Hergewechsele zwischen tram, light_rail und subway ist? Ich würde kurze Stücke, die nicht auf der Straße verlaufen als tram taggen. Gemeint ist der Abschnitt zwischen Röttgersbank und Neuessener Straße. https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/51.50735/7.00747
dachefte (2015-04-27 07:15:53+00:00): Auf jeden Fall. Ich tue mich auch etwas schwer mit der Einteilung. Wichtig ist mir, dass eine saubere Trennung von Infrastruktur und Betrieb bei der Erfassung vorliegt. Bei der Infrastruktur führt das allerdings dazu, dass es - gerade in NRW (Köln, Essen,...) - relativ häufig hin- und herwechselt. Schön ist das nicht, da muss sicher ein Kompromiss zwischen Detaillierung und Vereinheitlichung/Abstrahierung gefunden werden. Bei Gelegenheit werd ich mich mal um die Ecke kümmern und dir Bescheid geben.
aseerel4c26 (2015-01-29 17:28:52+00:00): revertiert in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/28489891
neuhausr (2015-03-30 15:09:20+00:00): another changeset which left a number of ways with incorrect key tags - see OSMI http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=tagging&lon=-79.93033&lat=42.04117&zoom=10&opacity=0.96&overlays=way_with_short_or_long_key
SK53 (2015-03-30 15:39:29+00:00): thanks, think I've fixed a few (caused by focus of editor being on tag window not edit window). Several probably could do with tiger_reviewed=no being removed
shravan91 (2015-01-29 12:22:36+00:00): Aligned a road too.
Lyubchenko Denis (2015-01-30 14:50:57+00:00): Перенес Corporate Business Systems на POI их сайт www.cbs.kz ?
Wild_555 (2015-01-29 21:22:01+00:00): Несогласен с названием как по твоему в навигаторе адрес искать Вице-Адмирала Азарова, 1
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