piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
marczoutendijk (2022-08-20 14:42:41+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 125150763 where the changeset comment is: DWG revert due to vandalism.
marczoutendijk (2022-08-20 14:42:40+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 125150763 where the changeset comment is: DWG revert due to vandalism.
marczoutendijk (2022-08-20 13:04:33+00:00): This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 125145785, 125145831, 125145870, 125145926, 125145967.
user_11932834 (2022-08-20 13:10:27+00:00): no
nevw (2022-08-20 21:03:33+00:00): Hi Sylvia
Good changeset comments are appeciated.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_changeset_comments
balint36 (2022-08-22 00:25:31+00:00): Direkt töröltél olyan vonalakat, amik egy-egy kapcsolat elemei voltak?
zsolt d (2022-08-22 08:10:24+00:00): Szia bálint36!
Nem ott egy részen már régóta nem zártkertek, kiskertek, hanem lakóövezet, családi házak vannak a vasút déli oldalán.  Azokat rajzoltam be, és vsz a területfunkció szabás-varrása közben sértettem meg a kapcsolati iszonyokat. A vasúti peronok ott fura módon még külön területfelhasználási egységként vannak síkidomozva (pedig ugyanúgy MÁV vasútállomás területe), nem csak "peron vonallal".  A vasút által használt terület igy több darabkára van szétszabdalva. Ezek voltak valahogy még kapcsolatként összekapcsolgatva, ha jól emlékszem.
A multipoligonok közé új poligont befűzni elég nyavajás, megoldaltan a szerkesztőben. Erre pedig sokszor szükség van, ahogy a durva légifotók egyre finomodnak. Ha tudnál segíteni ott a kapcsolat korrekt visszaállításában, azt megköszönöm.
üdv
Zsolt
Abdullah Abdulrhman (2022-08-25 08:21:36+00:00): نرجوا منكم عدم إضافة أماكن عشوائية وغير صحيحة للخريطة
Ropino (2022-08-21 12:22:26+00:00): Hi,
a church is not a highway ;)
(highway=Iglesia católica)
I have changed to:
amenity=place_of_worship
building=church
denomination=catholic
religion=christian

I hope this is correct, if not: please correct it. 
thx in advance
erickdeoliveiraleal (2022-08-22 00:13:52+00:00): Círculo eliminado. No mapeas áreas así. Y escriba los puntos como aquí: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/9966003747 y no ponga nombres genéricos como "campo de fútbol", déjelo sin nombre.
erickdeoliveiraleal (2022-08-22 00:16:19+00:00): undeleted:https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/576913013
ivanbranco (2022-08-24 16:12:32+00:00): I report an invalid place value as well: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1564375691
david1978 (2022-08-28 11:18:58+00:00): Canvi de nom. Poso el topònim original que corria el risc de perdrès. També deixaré indicat el nom modern que li van posar els seus redescobridors molt recentment per desconeixement del nom original i històric.
https://www.facebook.com/david.terrassa/posts/5485262958173266
Tomas Straupis (2022-08-20 19:35:11+00:00): Privažiavimai ir pravažiavimai nėra residential ir tikrai neturi savo pavadinimo. Skydo gatvė jau buvo pažymėta taip, kaip ji oficialiuose duomenyse.
Glassman (2022-08-22 23:04:18+00:00): Question - why a golf cart path when it doesn't appear that there is a golf course anywhere nearby. From the imagery it looks like it could either be a service road or a track. Can you review your edit and make changes as needed?
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Glassman (2022-08-22 23:12:12+00:00): #TIP: width is entered in meters. 3 meters look closer to the width than 7.32 which is something like 24'.  BTW - all the measurements are in meters. maxspeed can be entered with mph as maxspeed=25 mph. I'll send you more info on OSM on a message.
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user_8655426 (2022-08-21 12:06:38+00:00): Hello,
You seem desperate to get away from the main subject, but we haven't heard your explanation yet.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/121958052

You are still adding roads that are not visible in the aerial imagery.
https://osmcha.org/changesets/125149229/
Sadly you added false sources.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1087720281

You may have used data that is not available for OSM. (copyright infringement)
You may have added non-existent roads. (vandalism)
We need to delete the problematic data.

Please explain to "us" in this Changeset Discussions how you are collecting information on Japanese roads. (us = all mappers on earth)

Also, three mappers are waiting for your answers.
Please reply to them as soon as possible.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/123790897
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/110768176
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/122752195
user_15661662 (2022-08-22 00:54:55+00:00): @Mappin' Jack Flash In this case it's indeed shown on Maxar, I wonder whether your two eyes are having issues or not (since in recent months I heard that the Monkeypox pandemic may result temporarily amblyopias?), as far as I know, I saw the new road via Maxar.
user_15661662 (2022-08-22 01:17:55+00:00): PS: For the second one of your "Please reply to them as soon as possible.", I'm afraid that you're asking wrong man, you'd better ask Jeffrey Friedl on why they removed "highway=secondary".
user_8655426 (2022-08-22 11:34:11+00:00): Hello, Thank you for your reply.
You're trying to change the subject again, but what I want to know is how you collect information.
Why can you tell the road type, name and opening date by looking at aerial imagery? Are you a psychic?

And you removed buildings in this changeset. They are clearer than the road you added. Why did you delete those buildings? 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/926621305/history
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/926621300/history
Please check the image again.
https://osmcha.org/changesets/125149229/

(I had a fundus bleed last year, but now I'm fine. Thank you for your concern.)

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About Changeset:110768176

Jeffrey Friedl asks you, "Hi Yueying. Which street are you referring to?" I'm not you. It would be rude of you to ignore him for his polite reply.
Please explain to him about the road you mentioned. If you don't, he can't solve the problem.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/110768176
user_15661662 (2022-08-23 00:04:14+00:00): About removing buildings, aren't this happened normally in the real world when construction new roads? Yes it's still possible that a road may just across the building without demolishing them (at least in Osaka, Chongqing, Chicago, etc.), but I'm sure that such examples can't be found at such a rural town, as such buildings that allow road acrossing are carefully designed and only possible to be built with fairly big supports of money and architectural experts, but if you're asking that I should restore them with disused: or demolished: prefixes, OK I will restore.
About Jeffrey Friedl's question, I doubt if they even ignored https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/110908948 , for which evidences they can claim "not a secondary road" by just a "personal visit"? Who gave them such rights of deny? I wouldn't reply their behaviors anymore, as such questions are really, and only possible to be answered by them, not me.
user_8655426 (2022-08-23 03:38:57+00:00): Hello, Yueying-8520.
Thank you for your explanation

Happy Mapping！
BCNorwich (2022-08-20 15:44:33+00:00): Hi, You need to give more information than just tourism=attraction. Also, please place the POI on the attraction rather than in the middle of a road. Otherwise the POI should be removed.

Regards Bernard.
BCNorwich (2022-08-26 18:24:30+00:00): No response so I've removed the node
eggie (2022-08-27 10:06:55+00:00): En ook hier weer schade door doorverbinden.
Waarom die Melcherse straat doorverbonden als er routes overheen lopen?
Graag reactie.
MVG
eggie
eggie (2022-08-27 10:08:58+00:00): Helaas kan ik niet reverted, want ik krijg een berg aan conflicten, want hier zijn later weer zaken aangepast
eggie (2022-08-27 11:30:43+00:00): Grünroute hersteld. 
Hier liggen alleen nog de MTB routes door elkaar.
Kijk je er zelf naar?

MVG
eggie
whturner (2022-08-27 12:19:06+00:00): Sorry, ik heb niet altijd gecontroleerd of de route in stand bleef. Als JOSM een foutmelding gaf, heb ik geannuleerd en de verbinding weer losgemaakt. Dat is dan niet altijd goed gegaan zoals jullie nu merken. Ik zal beter controleren, en naar de MTB kijken
eggie (2022-08-27 12:28:09+00:00): Oke.. Prima..  Maar hier ging het fout omdat dan de route op een deel komt waar geen route hoort.
Dat komt door dat samenvoegen.. De splits moest dus eigenlijk blijven. 
Ik had van nieuw naar oud al wat teruggedraaid.. ook waar geen routes liepen, want ik kreeg steeds conflicten, maar 'hier' lukte het niet meer. 
De mapper die de route heeft ingelegd heeft dus bewust een weg gesplitst anders kan hij/zij geen route inleggen.
Wanneer je de 'tool' van PeeWee zou gebruiken dat zie je aan de kleurtjes of een weg wel of niet mag worden doorverbonden.
Maar leuke puzzel die lus2 en 4.  Ik had ook al gekeken, maar ik weet gewoon niet hoe die route loopt.
Je kunt bedenk ik nu wel de fietskaartlayer gebruiken voor het overzicht. Die loopt meestal een weekje achter. 



Succes met knippen en sorteren :)
Fijn dat je reageert.

MVG
eggie
eggie (2022-08-27 12:31:39+00:00): Kijk even naar het draadje op het forum
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=870525#p870525

Lus 2 is ook al gerepareerd door medemapper Emvee
eggie (2022-08-27 12:55:01+00:00): Lus 4 loopt nog ergens hier
whturner (2022-08-27 14:20:34+00:00): Die loopt nu ook weer door.
eggie (2022-08-27 14:23:27+00:00): Top!
JeroenHoek (2022-08-22 09:05:58+00:00): Goed gezien. Stom, ik dacht dat ik die juist weggelaten had bij het kopiëren uit de monumentale bomenset.
Al-Hun (2022-08-20 14:25:44+00:00): Accident de clavier : validé avant d'avoir fini de saisir commentaire et source...
commentaire : Cabrerets : chemin partant de la D41 et montant sur le plateau nord en passant au-dessus du Bout du Lieu
source : multiples traces GPS perso; notes géolocalisées; BD ortho IGN
user_5359 (2022-08-20 14:23:43+00:00): Wrong comment: See https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/124775046
Langlaeufer (2022-08-20 16:16:08+00:00): Markiert ist nur die Mitte der Fahrbahn, praktisch gefahren wird in 4 Spuren. lanes=2 ist daher sehr missverständlich
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cave2596 (2022-08-20 16:32:19+00:00): Vielen Dank für den Hinweis!
Als ich hier vorbei kam, fuhren die Autos brav hintereinander. 
Wenn das so aber nicht stimmt, dann darfst Du das gerne korrigieren. 
Danke auf jeden Fall für den Hinweis!
Langlaeufer (2022-08-20 16:59:23+00:00): Bin mir ja selber nicht ganz sicher wie man das löst. Im Berufsverkehr fuhr es sich hier jedenfalls 4 Spurig.
cave2596 (2022-08-20 19:37:18+00:00): Danke für Deinen Hinweis! Ich habe das jetzt nach Recherchen im OSM-Wiki und Rückfragen doch als 4spurig eingetragen. Allerdings ist der Rest der Straße auch mit nur 2 Spuren angegeben. Evtl. müsste man da generell nochmal drüber schauen, wo wie gefahren wird.
Langlaeufer (2022-08-20 19:40:17+00:00): Dann von Arthur-Menge-Ufer bis Altenbeckner Damm 4 Spurig, danach 2 Spurig
cave2596 (2022-08-20 19:47:13+00:00): Müsste jetzt so passen. Vielen Dank!
ChehrehBargi (2022-10-10 11:28:51+00:00): سلام. کاربر گرامی @f_kia مرز شهرک ولایت، سبلان فاز3، 2 و 1 صحیح نیست. در صورت دسترسی به نقشه شهرداری نمونه عکسی برایم بفرستید. از شهرک کشاورزی نقشه شهرداری داشتم و دقیق ثبت شده. باقی شهرک ها هم می شود با نقشه دقیق ثبت کرد.
f_kia (2024-08-10 12:19:35+00:00): بنده مپر اسنپ هستم و مپرهای اسنپ تغییرات را براساس فیدبک کاربران اعمال میکنند. اگر شما اطلاعات دقیق تری دارید لطفا اعمال کنید.
ChehrehBargi (2024-08-10 16:09:42+00:00): I understand The border of other neighborhoods will be modified gradually. Thanks for your efforts to improve the map.
marczoutendijk (2022-08-20 14:42:42+00:00): This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 125146687, 125146717, 125146761, 125146792, 125146824.
maraf24 (2024-04-20 20:35:21+00:00): Co naprawa adresów ma do masowej zmiany (i błędnej) zmiany dróg residential na unclassified?
unclassified to drogi tranzytowe, mają łączyć miejscowości, a nie prowadzić do dwóch chałup.
maraf24 (2024-04-20 20:58:15+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/437672329
Dlaczego?!
cytryn (2022-08-20 18:34:37+00:00): Cześć,
Te ławki mają to do siebie, że nie są na stałe mocowane do podłoża, więc co drugi dzień mogą się znaleźć w innym miejscu ;) Ale generalnie gdzieś tam są, dlatego zamiast usuwać jedne i tworzyć w ich miejsce nowe, właściwsze byłoby w miarę możliwości przenosić obiekty w nowe miejsce, zachowując historię edycji, zgodnie z dobrą praktyką: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Keep_the_history
Pozdrowienia
Kasey2 (2022-08-20 19:16:05+00:00): Cześć, dzięki za komentarz! Nie miałem świadomości, że nie są montowane na stałe.
Mateusz Konieczny (2023-02-24 18:44:12+00:00): Is changing https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5514870084/history to shop=shop intentional?
baprischka (2023-02-24 22:10:30+00:00): No, it was a mistake. Thanks for fixing it!
Mateusz Konieczny (2023-02-24 23:26:48+00:00): should I restore shop=dry_cleaning ? For now I changed it to shop=yes so it is not yet fully fixed
baprischka (2023-02-25 06:21:16+00:00): We need to check if it's still there but yes shop=dry_cleaning would be accurate given the name.
Mateusz Konieczny (2023-02-25 18:20:10+00:00): restored dry_cleaning then
somix (2022-08-20 15:53:32+00:00): Hello! Please don't write the address in the name.
ULazdins (2022-08-21 00:25:33+00:00): Noted, thank you!
SHARCRASH (2022-08-20 16:03:20+00:00): Hey D! Thanks for the survey! I was suspecting that the path disappeared but I never had the time to go deeper down in the FR side (also not very motivating to come back uphill).  

If you joke about the "razed" key prefix, now it's also used as a lifecycle prefix that many use for all kinds of features. Great to know if a feature was lready confirmed. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lifecycle_prefix  ...aaand possibly a weird kind of train with several cyclists following each other.  ;)
wilda69 (2022-08-20 16:18:16+00:00): I was there this afternoon and how completely different it now all looks!
Actually I gested about the tag razed:railway you used iso razed:highway along the slalom path which I know only too well as I plotted it millions of years ago;).
The forest has been "chopped" right up to the path along the LUX border but for some reason OSM would not allow me to move the forest north of the path.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/884100642#map=16/49.4646/6.0675
Cheers
Dan
SHARCRASH (2022-08-20 16:35:13+00:00): Oh yeah missed the ex railway key! lol Well it was kind of relevant as many people used to take that path. Such a pitty!

I think iD programmers did some sort of forbidden editing maneuvers so that beginners do not make unwanted mistakes. One of the reasons i left iD. I moved the cleared further up to the border.
wilda69 (2022-08-20 16:44:26+00:00): Thanks Moreno. Have a great w/e!
D
SHARCRASH (2022-10-10 19:44:03+00:00): Hi D,
I followed the path from https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1084720286 direction S. Arrived near the woods, it continues to W, you missed the continuation. It's pretty much the old path and returns back to this node https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2850380900
Here on the lower corner right you can see a bit of it https://dgtzuqphqg23d.cloudfront.net/07nn-B3AddLSLdO2bgglgAKKzoNb5U7CDlUCBxkvXwU-2048x1152.jpg
Sorry rather thought taking the photo for the landscape not really for the path.
wilda69 (2022-10-11 10:32:36+00:00): Actually I was not in that area where you took the photo, so does that path https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/263900755#map=19/49.45992/6.07659
still connect with
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/400802353#map=16/49.4605/6.0771
as i remember trailvisibility was very bad
Cheers
D
SHARCRASH (2022-10-11 19:09:06+00:00): I don't know for 263900755 connecting the track. I haven't been down there in years. I see very faint GPS traces on Heatmap, possibly yeah... Proper suvrey is needed. I will certainly ride again the Glide & Slide trail and maybe further down if i have the time to come back.
Shyshka (2022-08-22 10:49:29+00:00): Перепрошую, щось було не так?
Myazyk (2022-09-18 13:28:45+00:00): Я вже не пам'ятаю деталей, але пригадую, що ти на подвір'ях поля малював. Городи на подвір'ї не потрібно позначати як городи, а як житлову забудову. І дерева як сад теж не треба, бо то ділянка-обістя.
А ше там було позсувано межі полігонів, недобре нанесено
TheNet1996 (2022-08-22 07:35:25+00:00): Hi Hibenny,

foot & bicycle ist hier noch immer auf no. Warum?

Siehe auch Punkt 2:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/124682530

Viele Grüße
Mike
somix (2022-08-20 15:59:30+00:00): Hello, from wiki "The tag highway=bus_guideway is used to map a busway that is side guided "rails like" for the exclusive use of guided buses, not suitable for other traffic." (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway=bus%20guideway)
Is this really a busway or just a normal road designated for buses only?
KurtEnKristel (2022-09-22 05:56:01+00:00): Zou je in het vervolg bij het toevoegen van fietspaden de bijhorende straat ook kunnen aanpassen naar bicycle use_sidepath?
ThVerhulst (2022-09-25 18:00:51+00:00): Ah ok; goede opmerking. Ik probeer er aan te denken.
SekeRob (2022-08-22 07:55:52+00:00): Hi,

Most of the URL's you added in Sambuceto are failing link/format tests such as missing www., in fact one I tried is flagged as 'get me out of here' block. All green pin flagged in Osmose.

ciao
Yannick Lambin (2022-08-21 12:45:56+00:00): Oui, tout ce chemin est privé
somix (2022-08-20 17:24:28+00:00): Hello, aren't bus ways you added are just bus lanes, not separate roads?
somix (2022-08-20 17:26:59+00:00): Hello, service=busway is the same as highway=busway, but deprecated. If this is really a busway, better use highway=busway
emvee (2022-08-20 16:25:44+00:00): Thanks for adding the details and updating the note!
DK7080BE (2022-08-20 16:43:43+00:00): vedr. foot=designated

prøv at se billede 3af5
i denne artikel fra VejleAmtsFolkeblad:

https://vafo.dk/artikel/ole-og-andre-fodg%C3%A6ngere-lander-i-et-minefelt-n%C3%A5r-de-f%C3%A6rdes-langs-midtbyens-nyeste-vej-hvor-er-skiltene-henne
AshlyAsh (2022-08-20 18:02:45+00:00): Helt i orden
AshlyAsh (2022-08-20 20:59:01+00:00): Jeg har lige været forbi området og udfor det stykke, som jeg rettede, står der kun et cykelsti skilt
parsd51 (2022-08-21 10:42:33+00:00): Hvis der ikke er "fornuftige" muligheder for fodgængere langs "bilvejen", vil foot=yes være fint på cykelstierne, ihht færdselsloven om fodgængerfærdsel på veje og cykelstier.
martien-176 (2022-08-21 08:40:05+00:00): Mapper requested to revert this changeset because of the deleted buildings. But there are only 4 of them, and more buildings that are mapped/fixed correctly.

So imo no need to revert.
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kwiatek_123 (2022-08-21 13:28:54+00:00): Według mnie to jest ulica a nie ścieżka gdyż jest normalnej szerokości i edytowany fragment jest asfaltowy.
kwiatek_123 (2022-08-21 13:29:55+00:00): Dodatkowo skąd się wzięła nazwa tej ścieżki?
Dodko (2022-08-20 17:24:26+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6944535667
transformátor by nemal byť pripojený na poľnú cestu

aj tie stožiare nejako nesedia, prepnite si pozadie na Ortofotomozaika SR a podľa toho viete presnejšie umiestniť 

ak viete aké je tam napätie môžete pridať podľa dokumentácie
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power=line
eggie (2022-08-21 11:53:30+00:00): Dag Jasper..  Eerste tip.. Houd het gebied van je edits veel kleiner. Hoogstes een stuk van een wijkje.
Schuiven met de kaart levert vaak schade op.. Met iD in ieder geval wel.. met Vespucci weet ik het niet.
Feedback is ook makkelijker als je niet hoeft te zoeken.
MVG
eggie
eggie (2022-08-21 11:58:35+00:00): Wat opmerkinegn.. Op 	het Sevinkpad bij Winterswijk mag je niet fietsen, maar wel met een motorvoertuig?
bicycle=no lijkt me onwaarschijnlijk. 
Of mag er niets met wielen komen? vehicle=no? Kijk nog even.

Bij playground=.....  hoort ook leisure=playground.
eggie (2022-08-21 12:03:43+00:00): ..dan het Avonturenpad.. Let op dat je geen paden aan de landuse vastplakt. 

Dat pad ten zuiden ervan..  heeft geen highway tag.. 
Is het een highway=path???? of een leisure=track?
Dus zal nu niet doen in osm.

Welke achtergrond gebruik je.. Het 'pad' zonder tags volgt niet het spoor op de recente luchtfoto.

Groet
eggie
eggie (2022-08-21 12:05:23+00:00): Voorlopig highway=path getagd...
eggie (2022-08-21 12:10:49+00:00): Het avonturenpad is een 'eiland' Dwz het begint en eindigt in het niets.
eggie (2022-08-21 12:13:05+00:00): Van Sevinkpad bicycle=no voorlopig verwijderd. Ga eens na waarom iedereen daar mag komen behalve een fietser?   :)
eggie (2022-08-21 12:21:58+00:00): Volgens mij zijn een aantal wegen vanaf de Meddoseweg .. dus de Hilgeloweg  bestemmingsverkeer.. motor_vehicle=destination  Dus alleen voor aanwonenden. Fietsers worden niet genoemd.
foot=yes hoeft niet op wegen Dat is default.
ke9tv (2022-09-06 14:57:49+00:00): Isn't this one named, "Yankee Smith Trail"?
ke9tv (2022-09-06 15:07:10+00:00): Oops, you were editing multiples... I meant, the one that you marked "Winter Clove Falls Trail" is Yankee Smith.  Also, we should tag `informal-yes` on the Winter Clove trails that are on state land and don't have state blazes, and probably warn about `trail_visibility` also.  The last time I did Little Stoppel Point from the Escarpment, I very occasionally spotted a painted-out blaze where the grey-brown overlay that the state put on it was wearing to reveal the unauthorized paint underneath, and there was a lot of pushing through mountain laurel to follow the 'trail'.  But that was a few years ago, and I know that a lot of the herd paths are getting much more beaten in.
George S (2022-09-07 18:12:09+00:00): I believe I have Yankee Smith as the trail that roughly follows the land boundary between Kiskatom and Dutcher creek.
I did not put in the Little Stoppel trail as it is hardly used ... can't find any track logs for it anyways.
The area is also complicated by an elaborate network of mountain bike trails.
I have been using the Strava heat map plus whatever track logs I can find to draw the trails in.
I will have to look into the tagging issue.
ke9tv (2022-09-08 02:12:47+00:00): Ok, I see Yankee Smith now, right where it should be. The incomplete and disconnected waterways confused me, and fixing that has been on my 'to do' list for years now.

USGS topos from different editions disagree on the 'Dutcher Creek' name.  The innkeeper at Winter Clove, and the newer series of topos, call it 'Countryman Kill'.  Not seeing that name also confused me.

Now I recall coming OUT from Little Stoppel down the Winter Clove Falls trail because nobody in the group wanted to push back through all that laurel, so we dropped off the ridge down to the Kiskatom as soon as we could. As I said, it's been a few years. I have no objection to leaving out the trail to Stoppel Point. DEC has obviously tried to suppress it.
MxxCon (2022-08-21 03:28:26+00:00): Hello.
Unless a bench is extremely long, generally it's best to represent them with just a simple node.
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punkpenguinprincess333 (2022-08-23 20:52:50+00:00): Hi @mxxcon! Appreciate your insight - there's some benches in my neighborhood that are really long so I was wondering whether a node or way would be more appropriate since on OSM wiki it says you can represent them either way. I'll just stick with nodes - thank you again for the guidance!