piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
Kovoschiz (2020-03-26 13:31:18+00:00): Before I begin, I should remind you OSM is about current features. If you are interested in history, look at OpenHistoricalMap https://openhistoricalmap.org/. OSM is also about map data, not a collection of maps. In that, copyright is critical, as OSM operates on the most restrictive or open (depending on how you look at it) ODbL license. From what I observe, http://www.hkmaps.hk/mapviewer.html only uses OSM, and its map copyright are unknown as well. You should judge based on a variety of sources, and not rely on other maps. Lest you forget, the first principle of OSM is not to copy directly from other maps. 

On places, the convention is to mark the center of the human settlement. On names, primarily `name=` tags the common name used, and there's a variety of name tags. 

I asked for your opinion on the center of North Point (not Braemar Hill), and status of Fortress Hill. I don't see you responding to North Point. On Fortress Hill, I also don't see how you have commented on the subject. Can you explain further? 

I would also take this chance to clarify what appears to be some misconeptions. "Fortress Hill is no more than a human interpretation of the landscape, there was also a past name "East Hill" which is no longer in use, but there is no such landform for the origin of the neighbourhood," natural feature and place are correlations, not necessary direct causations. They can be mapped separately. "history also told us that the name "Fortress Hill" arose from the construction the MTR Station by the same name, which means it's more of an artificial construct by nature." we can disregard the station to talk about Fortress Hill Road, and the "human interpretation of the landscape" you mentioned. Would these be "artificial"? This doesn't really affect the standing of a toponym as it pertains to a human settlement. OSM is to record usage, not serve as anyone's verdict of what's ought to be. 

Ma Tau Chung would be a different matter. 

Last but not least, I would remind you there is no "your team", but many different editors in the community. Decisions and guidelines are based on consensus, in line with the global OSM community.
user_3323986 (2020-03-27 09:29:07+00:00): Hi,
First of all, all suburbs have its own history of development, factors from the past affect how it looks like in the present, so one should not detach/discredit a suburb's past in its toponymy.
Another point I need to stress that is the fact that geographical names are not regulated by the government in Hong Kong, nor is there clear guidelines (e.g. postal codes) of where suburbs are. Any place anywhere could use any geographical name. As a result a lot of factors come into play(property development, busincess convenience, service catchment discrepency, personal sentiment) in naming places, so in this case present usage is not completely reliable or logical.
In the case of North Point, although it was not my main edit, is a suburb with a name derived from the topography North Point. North Point is the cape between present-day Fortress Hill Road and Cheung Hong Street where North Point battery stood. The shape of the cape is still visible in the aliment of Electric Road between Fortress Hill Road and Cheung Hong Street. 

The earliest human development of the suburb were North Point Power Station (from 1919) and China Provident Co., Ltd. dock warehouses(from 1924), which were rebuilt into City Garden and Provident Centre, two of the largest properties in the suburb. The next was the reclaimed land east of Tong Shui Road. The direction of development was eastwards from the cape. The area east of Tong Shui Road is not the core of North Point, but the extension of the suburb into other suburbs such as Tanner Hill and Tsat Tsz Mui.
There is also a disjunct between the local Hong Kong residents and the British colonisers. The entire shore east of Oil Street is known as Tsat Tsz Mui, which is at present only east of Tin Chiu Street.

The North Point MTR Station didn't come until 1985 and the majority of present day human activities and traffic lean towards west of Tong Shui Road.

The use of Fortress Hill on maps and otherwise as a neighbourhood was non-existent until the construction of the MTR Station in the 1980s. "Fortress Hill" is a name initiated by the MTR Corporation to no more than differentiating stations in close proximity, with little geographical basis. (Same case as "Tin Hau") Yes it could be still on the map due to present-day usage, but names with comprehensive topography initiation and developmental timeline, namely North Point, Tsat Tsz Mui, Tanner Hill, Braemar Hill and Causeway Bay should prevail.

All of the above information is based on reading all the maps there is of Hong Kong and other historical sources, which I am not going to quote one by one. And http://www.hkmaps.hk/ used to be Google maps-dominent, the use of OSM is a recent change.
user_3323986 (2020-03-27 09:42:39+00:00): And on your point of "natural feature and place are correlations, not necessary direct causations." Yes that is true, so the western extension of "Braemar Hill" onto the slopes of Red Incense Summit could still be regarded as Braemar Hill the suburb, but the label should steer away from that and stick to its core to avoid misconception.

On the point of Fortress Hill Road, it actually used to refer to North Point proper itself in terms of its fuctionality, but the construction of construction of the MTR Station amplified the name "Fortress Hill" to have a life of its own.
user_3323986 (2020-03-27 09:48:05+00:00): Another indicator was the road catchment. 
The node where Electric Road transitions into Java Road indicates the position of North Point.
And the independence of the road catchments east and west of Tong Shui Road also validates my point made about the development timeline.
Supaplex (2020-03-25 14:52:20+00:00): 抱歉，您誤把個人地點書籤發布到公眾使用的開放街圖資料庫中了！如果您想要紀錄某個私人的地點，請使用「加入書籤」功能，而非「新增一個地點」。「新增一個地點」會直接反饋到公開圖資中。

Maps.Me App 採用開放街圖的地理資料，由社群而非商業公司建置的地理資料庫。Maps.me 與開放街圖合作，讓地圖使用者可以回饋最新的路況與地點資料到開放街圖社群，在下一次更新的時候，就會自動發布到所有人的手機系統上。

以下是相關的參考資料，歡迎隨時指教與提問。
編輯須知
台灣的標示依循準則可參考 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Taiwan
常見的圖徵標示方式可參考 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Zh-hant:Map_Features
給Pokemon Go玩家的建議：https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tips_for_new_(Pokemon_Go)_mappers
組織性編輯指南：https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines

台灣社群網站
台灣 OpenStreetMap 網站  https://osm.tw/
臉書粉絲頁OpenStreetMap台灣 https://www.facebook.com/openstreetmaptaiwan/
台灣社群Facebook社團 https://www.facebook.com/groups/OpenStreetMap.TW/
郵件論壇 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tw
Telegram OpenStreetMap Taiwan https://t.me/joinchat/Aqu2IgnTuIidMfREdNmomQ
Telegram OpenStreetMap Asia  https://t.me/OpenStreetMapAsia
Slack https://osm-tw.signup.team/
Happy Mapping!
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user_5173844 (2020-03-26 00:01:52+00:00): Do you mean you know it is not a multi-storey car park? Imagery you are referring to shows it as a building, although the picture is not very clear.
lubademskaya (2020-03-26 07:22:18+00:00): Hello, you can look at the shadow from the neighboring building and see that it is several times larger than from the fence in the parking lot.
I see parking = surface (open parking with a fence, not multi-story), which belongs to Northgate Vehicle Hire
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user_5173844 (2020-03-26 12:45:26+00:00): Thanks, you are most likely right. I'll survey the area next time I have a chance to go out.
Steve_32 (2020-04-10 19:37:33+00:00): Why you make unconnected ways? Reverted.
User6 - Lightcyphers (2020-04-11 12:00:42+00:00): Hi,
Thank you for informing us about this edit.
Because our team is mapping a lot, it could happen by mistake.
As well, I would be very grateful if you will write me back, what exactly have been done wrong (what type of ways were those).
SomeoneElse (2020-03-26 12:17:45+00:00): Hello,
Please don't use ESRI imagery as a source here without aligning it properly first.  If you compare with other available sources you'll see that ESRI is offset here and in most places in the UK.  Please use OS OpenData StreetView for road centreline information; it's pretty accurate, though incomplete.  Bing is also relatively well aligned here.  Esri data is more recent but misaligned - you will need to align in before using it.
Please also make sure that all your colleagues from Amazon know this too.
Best Regards,
Andy
SomeoneElse (2020-03-26 12:21:08+00:00): One more thing - looking at the imagery (even on Esri) I wouldn't describe https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/784403178 as a service road at all.  It just happens to be the route through the yard with nothing parked on it at the time that the imagery was taken.  Look at different imagery and you'll see different things parked in different places.
Best Regards,
Andy
koderav (2020-03-27 14:11:43+00:00): [March 27, 2020, 7:38 PM] RAJU, JITHENDRA: Thanks for looking  into our edit. We are making the edits based on the multiple resources and going with the most updated one. We are not sure how the "Imagery used" column is auto capturing every time we toggle between different imagery irrespective of the presence of aerial/street view. It is not populating as any tag to make any further edits. It will be helpful if you can suggest any action items to avoid such issues. In this scenario, I have corrected my mistake. please fnd the changeset(82602527) for the suggested modifications.  Always happy to learn from the community.
koderav (2020-03-27 14:13:39+00:00): [March 27, 2020, 7:38 PM] RAJU, JITHENDRA: Thanks for looking  into our edit. We are making the edits based on the multiple resources and going with the most updated one. We are not sure how the "Imagery used" column is auto capturing every time we toggle between different imagery irrespective of the presence of aerial/street view. It is not populating as any tag to make any further edits. It will be helpful if you can suggest any action items to avoid such issues. In this scenario, I have corrected my mistake. please fnd the changeset(82718699) for the suggested modifications.  Always happy to learn from the community.
koderav (2020-03-27 14:14:38+00:00): Thanks for looking  into our edit. We are making the edits based on the multiple resources and going with the most updated one. We are not sure how the "Imagery used" column is auto capturing every time we toggle between different imagery irrespective of the presence of aerial/street view. It is not populating as any tag to make any further edits. It will be helpful if you can suggest any action items to avoid such issues. In this scenario, I have corrected my mistake. please fnd the changeset(82718699) for the suggested modifications.  Always happy to learn from the community.
koderav (2020-03-27 14:16:41+00:00): Thanks for looking into our edit. We are making the edits based on the multiple resources and going with the most updated one. We are not sure how the "Imagery used" column is auto capturing every time we toggle between different imagery irrespective of the presence of aerial/street view. It is not populating as any tag to make any further edits. It will be helpful if you can suggest any action items to avoid such issues. In this scenario, I have corrected my mistake. please fnd the changeset(82718699) for the suggested modifications. Always happy to learn from the community.
InsertUser (2020-03-25 08:50:43+00:00): Are you sure that OSM was incorrect for ALL of these? It is reasonably common for signage or documents to simplify spelling and this simplification should be preserved in OSM if official.
porfiriopaiz (2020-03-25 10:52:14+00:00): You're right, I exceeded the northern border of Mexico with United States where all variations are commonly written without the diacritic.

For the southern part of the border, in Spanish orthography, the variations of Jiménez that end with a z are written with an acute accent on the second syllable.

I will revert the changes from the sources I used.
Ze0zohk1 (2021-01-24 11:53:49+00:00): Hallo Lampe,

danke für deine Beträge zu OSM. Mir ist bei deiner Änderung dieser Weg aufgefallen: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/784409677/history

Dort hast du name=Grasweg vergeben und surface=Gras verwendet. "name" sollte nur verwendet werden, wenn an dem Weg ein Namensschild vorhanden ist oder auf einem Wegweiser der Name steht. Grasweg scheint hier einfach eine Beschreibung zu sein. D. h. name sollte gelöscht werden.

Der Wert für surface sollte grass lauten. Bei surface werden kleingeschriebene englische Wörter verwendet (vgl. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Surface). 

Magst du das korrigieren?

Viele Grüße
Ze0zohk1 (2021-01-24 11:55:15+00:00): Und was mir auch auffällt: du hast footway verwendet. Sicher, dass das ein footway ist (und kein path)? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Tag:highway%3Dfootway

Was mich auch wundert, dass danach (Richtung Westen) ein track kommt. Vielleicht ist track hier auch angebracht?
Kovoschiz (2020-03-25 09:02:54+00:00): Don't add names such as "Public Bicycle Parking". Use proper tags, or add this to description.
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Libi_levi12 (2020-04-06 11:32:05+00:00): חדרה
Mateusz Konieczny (2021-01-10 01:21:04+00:00): Klingon names are back. See https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/97231531 and other by this user
SomeoneElse (2021-01-10 10:29:52+00:00): Fantasy names removed in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/97233995 .
Sowa1980 (2020-05-20 19:32:04+00:00): Привет, сделайте свои правки пожалуйста, более компактными, что бы другие участники могли их просмотреть, доступными средствами, для контроля правок в OSM, по чему они накрывают весь земной шар?  Надеюсь в преть Ваши правки будут менее глобальными. Согласовывайте импорт, перетегирование и удаление тегов с местным сообществом. В противном случае будет откачено
Спасибо за понимание.
roptat (2020-03-25 13:27:09+00:00): Salut,

merci pour ces modifications ! Il semble qu'il y ait quelques problèmes cependant. Je n'habite plus saint-aubin depuis quelques mois, mais dans mes souvenirs, le jardin d'anna est plutôt un primeur qu'un traiteur. Pourquoi avoir modifié ?

Tu as dupliqué la boutique des halles, avec un type différent de celui existant. Comme je n'y suis jamais rentré, je ne sais pas trop ce qu'ils vendent mais entre vêtements et décoration d'intérieur, c'est assez différent. L'un des deux est probablement faux.

GT traiteur était en dehors du bâtiment, je me suis permis de replacer le point à l'intérieur. Le point que tu as créé pour la boutique des halles est aussi à l'extérieur, mais je n'y ai pas touché. Si tu es sûr·e de toi, tu peux supprimer ce nouveau point et modifier l'ancien (c'est mieux pour l'historique), ou simplement supprimer le nouveau en gardant l'ancien si tu préfères.

Pour la salle de sport, je me suis permis de supprimer, parce qu'elle était déjà renseignée sur le bâtiment (et « salle de sport » n'est pas un nom, c'est une description qui est déjà portée par l'attribut sport_centre).

En espérant avoir été utile !
eggie (2020-03-25 10:16:43+00:00): beste wilco.. Wat is het doel van je toevoeging hier?
Je kunt hier nergens anders heen dan alleen de oneway=yes volgen.
Een afslagbeperking loopt altijd in drie stappen
from >via >  to  .. De zgn. rol . Die zie ik hier niet.
Je hebt alleen een stuk H Dunantlaan opgenomen in een relatie die niets doet.
Weghalen?
Gr Eggie
eggie (2020-03-25 10:17:49+00:00): Even kort door de bocht.. Je kunt hier toch nergens rechtaf slaan... Er is immers al eenrichting.
Wilco_VR_IJsselland (2020-03-25 10:49:53+00:00): Dat klopt, maar volgens navigatie hulpdiensten gebeurd dit namelijk wel. Dus voor hulpdiensten dit dus ingevoerd! Gaarne jouw visie
eggie (2020-03-25 10:59:10+00:00): Oke.. Ik begrijp waarom je dan een afslagbeperking wil zetten..., maar dat zou betekekenen dan deze routing app op alle kruispunten waar al eenrichting is de fout in zou gaan? In de routering volgens  van OSM-protocol  zou je nooit van de H Dunantlaan terug de Rielerweg op gestuurd kunnen worden.
Dan zouden we op elke kruising een afslagbeperking moeten maken.
Het is niet logisch hier. Ik denk dat iemand zich vergist.
Even los van de manier waarop je deze restrictie hebt toegepast. Die loopt altijd van een wegdeel (H Dunabtlaan) via een node (op de aasluiing)  naar een wegdeel (Rielerweg). Je hebt het fout ingevoerd.  Dit doet niets, (maar hoeft ook niets te doen :) )
Welke app stuurt dan jullie tegen de eenrichting in? Vraag nog eens na. Dat zou toch niet mogelijk moeten zijn????!!!
eggie (2020-03-25 11:01:22+00:00): ... en schakel svp over naar JOSM.. Die tackelt gelijk zo'n probleem. Nu dus de foutmelding "Er werd geen weg met "from" gevonden.
eggie (2020-03-25 11:09:58+00:00): Wonderlijk Ik kijk even met osrm..
eggie (2020-03-25 11:14:25+00:00): Net in OSRM getest.. Hier gaat het wel goed. 
Wanneer dit systeem in de fout gaat.. dan gaat het overal in de fout. De tagging is juist. We kunnen toch niet in al deze situaties een afslagbeperking gaan toevoegen. 
Ik zet het probleem even op het forum.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car&route=52.25903%2C6.17912%3B52.25954%2C6.17668#map=16/52.2603/6.1743
eggie (2020-03-25 11:21:12+00:00): Volg even dit draadje https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=781175#p781175

Ben benieuwd
Eggie
Wilco_VR_IJsselland (2020-03-25 11:21:34+00:00): Ik wacht even af..
eggie (2020-03-25 11:35:42+00:00): Of zit er een mogelijkheid in de routingapp om eenrichting uit te schakelen voor een hulpvoertuig.., want hier gaat toch de gehele routering in de fout?
eggie (2020-03-25 11:41:53+00:00): Wellicht zit het probleem in de hoogte van de tunnel Veenweg met een max hoogte van 3.6?
Er is dan geen alternatief..
Wilco_VR_IJsselland (2020-03-25 11:46:54+00:00): Onze voertuigen kunnen gewoon onder de veenentunnel door (voertuighoogtes 3.40)
Ik heb dit probleem van de routingapp ook al doorgestuurd naar derden.
Ook kijkt Emiel_VR_Ijsselland ook even mee hier nu.
Wilco_VR_IJsselland (2020-03-25 12:05:12+00:00): Eggie, het verzoek is om de link in het forum er af te halen..
eggie (2020-03-25 12:09:52+00:00): Wilco.. Ik denk dat ik dat niet kan...  Dat zal de moderator moeten doen. 
Zal even kortsluiten.. .
eggie (2020-03-25 12:18:15+00:00): De titel heb ik even aangepast..., maar de routering blijft uiteraard zorgwekkend.
woodpeck (2020-03-25 14:48:36+00:00): I have hidden two URLs from this comment thread that were accidentally published by Wilco_VR_IJsselland but not meant for public consumption.
andrewwiseman (2020-03-25 18:20:16+00:00): Thanks for mapping! When mapping buildings please try to make them perfect rectangles or squares, and click the q button on your keyboard which will make all corners 90 degrees
andrewwiseman (2020-03-25 18:20:03+00:00): Thanks for mapping! When mapping buildings please try to make them perfect rectangles or squares, and click the q button on your keyboard which will make all corners 90 degrees
szydzio (2023-01-10 07:40:42+00:00): W terenie parking nie ma żadnego oznakowania ani barier upoważniających jedynie mieszkańców posesji 2-8 do jego użytkowania. Zatem usuwam tę nazwę .
NorthCrab (2023-01-10 15:08:45+00:00): Chodzi o to aby nie używać nazw opisowych, informacja na https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Name_is_the_name_only
4004 (2020-03-29 15:00:13+00:00): спасибо за правки, удивительно как мало было отмечено.
в следующий раз хорошо еще оставлять заметки, чтобы кто то все эти "офисы" обозначил как надо
Loshu (2020-09-02 21:53:15+00:00): Ist der Sud end von der weg https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/784431220#map=19/47.41985/8.62318 werklich da?
Ich wechselte von Weg zu Fußweg
GinaroZ (2020-04-07 19:17:17+00:00): Hi, thanks for your edit.
You've made some changes to the tracks however they now seem to go through buildings and do not match what is on bing imagery. Are you sure they are correct?
Millworker (2020-04-07 22:09:52+00:00): Very sure. The buildings have recently been developed.
You’ll find the changes in the Aberdeenshire planning website if you search for postcode AB41 7PR
Leo Slager (2020-03-25 11:10:15+00:00): Dag Wilco,
Mogelijk kun je met iD onvoldoende details zien. Op grond van de luchtfoto en SV zie ik het volgende:
Het toegangshek ligt wat meer noordelijk.
De weg naar rechts, achter het hek bestaat niet. Voor het hek ligt de weg naar rechts en die staat al op de kaart. Halverwege staat een tweede toegangshek met een weg naar de spoorbaan. Achter het 1e toegangshek loopt de weg direct naar de spoorbaan en buigt naar rechts. Na het viaduct komen beide wegen weer samen.
Ik pas het even aan.
Wilco_VR_IJsselland (2020-03-25 11:13:05+00:00): Top. Ik had namelijk andere info (zichtbare) via Streetsmart versie 2019
Leo Slager (2020-03-25 14:22:50+00:00): Een verkenning ter plaatse lijkt mij wenselijk.
gendy54 (2020-05-20 22:43:23+00:00): Hello,

Pourquoi avoir taggué une maison de santé en hôpital?
zorglubu (2020-05-21 18:37:24+00:00): A priori parce que j'ai recopié un noeud (https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6073894215/history) sur le way avant d'y mettre le FINESS,  sans trop me poser de question.
Je corrige. Et tu as le droit sans me demander de corriger mes erreurs :-)
gendy54 (2020-05-23 15:05:33+00:00): Oui je sais que j'ai le droit de modifier, mais je voulais être sûr que ce soit bien une MSP. Je trouvais le bâtiment un poil gros pour la chose.
Frans S (2020-04-14 15:49:31+00:00): Hello Daniel
Thanks for mapping here
Please map more accurate. Your mappings looks very odd.Most buildings are strict rectangular.
Please square your buildings with the Q key in ID editor.
Also, do not collect multiple buildings together and call it 1 building
Best regards and keep mapping
pitscheplatsch (2020-03-25 11:21:11+00:00): Hi yafabo, welcome to OSM.

May we know the reason behind deleting almost 30 buildings? Thanks.

See https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-change-viz?c=82609255

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pitscheplatsch (2020-03-25 11:22:01+00:00): Hi yafabo, welcome to OSM.

Same again, may we know the reason behind deleting several landuse and natural areas? Thanks.

See https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-change-viz?c=82609332

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!bm (2020-03-25 12:10:40+00:00): Hi, wieder was gelernt: ".." um einen ungenauen Zeitpunkt zwischen zwei Daten anzugeben. Sollte es hier nach Def. des key in Wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:start_date nicht dennoch 2020 sein? Evt genauer, zB: "2020-02..2020-03"
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Supaplex030 (2020-03-26 17:07:36+00:00): Da war ich mir auch nicht sicher und wollte erst "2020" schreiben. Dann dachte ich mir aber, dass beim Thema "Baujahr" ja auch die Grundsteinlegung interessant ist... Ich dachte außerdem, ".." würde als "von bis" und nicht als "irgendwann zwischen" interpretiert, aber da liege ich wohl falsch. Auch zum Wohle der Auswerter werde ich mal "2020" draus machen (ohne Monat - wüsste jetzt nicht genau, woran ich das festmachen sollte - die ersten Einzüge sollen wohl im April starten...)

...Nun frage ich mich nur: Was wäre das start_date bei der Kirche in Barcelona, die seit über 100 Jahren gebaut wird? :) https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9194723
Supaplex030 (2020-03-26 17:10:49+00:00): Done. Also was mir fehlt, ist ein Key für Grundsteinlegung :)
DDROMAGNY (2021-05-03 12:07:59+00:00): Il semblerai que ce bâtiment ne soit pas un hôpital mais un centre médico-social. 
De plus, après quelques recherches, il m'a semblé que ces services avaient déménagés rue des champs...
user_5359 (2020-03-25 15:26:15+00:00): Welcome to OSM! I have delete your SEO SPAM (mostly no standard keys, no verifiable data or not positive verifiable address data). If this is an error, you can report it here, then we will be happy to help restore the data. For the most information in the description we have own keys. Please have look on the website http://wiki.openstreetmap.org.