piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
zuicz (2020-06-09 11:01:20+00:00): Na stronie, którą podałeś jako źródło, jest coś takiego:
„Klasyfikacja dróg w OSM nie jest kopią klasyfikacji urzędowej. Zmiany klasy drogi nie mogą być wykonywane tylko i wyłącznie na podstawie klasyfikacji urzędniczej.
W wielu przypadkach istnieją powody, by odejść od klasyfikacji oficjalnej.”
„highway=trunk - [...] Sporadycznie ważna droga główna o analogicznej funkcji i parametrach.”
To samo dotyczy DTŚ ;)
zuicz (2020-06-09 11:43:35+00:00): A dobra, teraz dopiero zauważyłem wątek na forum ;)
szydzio (2020-06-09 12:01:21+00:00): Zmiana obwodnicy Inowrocławia na trunk została wprowadzona "testowo" => https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/56395563 i od tego czasu jest uporczywie przywracana mimo braku ogólnej zgody co do takiej zmiany.
VA00 (2020-06-11 14:19:43+00:00): Z tego co widzę, znasz działki w Tenczynku. Ja tam dziś solidnie pobłądziłem, bo większość bramek jest pozamykana na klucz. Przy wejściu od ul. Ogródkowej widziałem mapę, ale zrobiłem takie kiepskie zdjęcie, że ledwo da się nazwy odczytać.
user_5359 (2020-06-13 11:20:10+00:00): Willkommen bei OSM!  Es gibt einen Unterschied zwischen Anzahl der Etagen im Gebäude (building:levels) und der Etage (level) in dem sich ein Objekt befindet. Der Wert 0 bedeutet, dass das Gebäude praktisch nicht existiert.
Chaasfondue (2020-06-15 10:48:44+00:00): Hallo, Danke für den Hinweis, aber hatte ich wirklich building:levels:0 eingetragen? Bei welchem Objekt?

Viele Grüße
user_5359 (2020-06-15 16:27:39+00:00): Sieh Dir mal https://www.osm.org/way/814091840 an.
Chaasfondue (2020-06-15 16:36:43+00:00): Danke Dir! Ist gefixt.
SomeoneElse (2021-02-06 17:25:07+00:00): To me this looks like it is _not_ a clothes shop, but a bike shop selling bike and ATV bits, with clothes as a bit of an afterthought.
Adamant1 (2021-02-09 04:32:51+00:00): I'd be just as fine with shop=motorcycle_parts with a clothes=yes or clothes=motorcycle tag then. The important thing is that it doesn't sell motorcycles. So it shouldn't be tagged like it does just because it has stuff related to them.
Supaplex (2020-06-18 17:30:24+00:00): 恭喜您完成第一次的地圖編輯！ 歡迎加入開放街圖，群眾共同參與，繪製生活週遭大家關心事物的共編地圖。以下是相關的參考資料，歡迎隨時指教與提問。

編輯須知
台灣的標示依循準則可參考 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Taiwan
常見的圖徵標示方式可參考 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Zh-hant:Map_Features
給Pokemon Go玩家的建議：https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tips_for_new_(Pokemon_Go)_mappers
組織性編輯指南：https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines

台灣社群網站
台灣 OpenStreetMap 網站 https://osm.tw/
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台灣社群Facebook社團 https://www.facebook.com/groups/OpenStreetMap.TW/
郵件論壇 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tw
Telegram OpenStreetMap Taiwan https://t.me/joinchat/Aqu2IgnTuIidMfREdNmomQ
Telegram OpenStreetMap Asia https://t.me/OpenStreetMapAsia
Slack https://osm-tw.signup.team/

Happy Mapping!
PT-53 (2020-06-09 12:07:46+00:00): Hallo  Adamant1,
wie kommst Du darauf, daß dieses Geschäft
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1486401274/history
Motorradkleidung anbietet?
Auf der Homepage kann ich nichts dazu finden!
Fragende Grüße
Adamant1 (2020-06-09 12:34:34+00:00): Hello. You know, I didn't either, but it was tagged as containing clothes before I edited it and so I figured it was something particular to this location that isn't reflected on their web page. A lot of times stores that sell motorcycle clothes and parts, but not motorcycles will be mainly clothes with a small section of the store dedicated to parts. So, I assumed that was the case here. Perhaps I could have gone the other way with it though and tagged it as shop=motorcycle_parts or something else instead though. The main point is to use a better top level tag to describe the place and not give people the impression that they sell motorcycles without having to rely on a bunch of extra un-needed namespace tags to do so. Whatever tag accomplishes that goal I'm fine with though. Just not shop=motorcycle. As it's miss-leading and causes a need for extra tags just so people aren't confused that we should not have to rely on.
PT-53 (2020-06-09 12:54:44+00:00): Hallo,
ich finde es nicht richtig, Änderungen ohne vorherige Überprüfung, also nur auf Verdacht hin vorzunehmen. Das könnte man auch als verpönten mechanischen Edit ansehen!
Änderst Du Deine falsche Änderung noch?
Grüße
Adamant1 (2020-06-09 13:36:56+00:00): Respectfully, I have to disagree. It was tagged as motorcycle:clothes=yes prior to my edit. So, thinking that the place sells clothes just because it's not on their website wasn't "only on suspicion." There should always be a presumption of good faith that the prior editor knew what they where doing and we tag based on what's on the ground, not what's on a random website, and I assume that's how the editor that added the tag based it on. I also disagree that it was a mechanical edit because I am not a machine and I didn't do it through any automated means, semi-automated or otherwise. Or you could claim any time someone changes a tag from what it was before their edit is a mechanical edit. Which is not what the definition of doing one is. In fact, it was less mechanical then adding brand tags or updating a POI through iD Editor or using RapidiD to map roads or buildings. All of which are acceptable. So, you have no argument there. 

I'm not sure what your question is in reference to. Can you explain it better?

I will note that I have been more then accommodating about this and went out of my way to say that I am with however it is tagged. Just as long as it fits the goal of being understandable and not using unnecessary tags to convey what the POI is. Which I'm sure we can both agree fits the aim of OSM. IMO things like bad faithed and wrong accusations that I'm doing mechanical edits or similar things are not productive to reaching that goal. I assume we can reach an agreement as to the best way to tag it without such things. 

Thanks
PT-53 (2020-06-14 08:09:50+00:00): Hallo Adamant1, 
berichtigst Du Deine falsche Änderung noch?
Fragende Grüße
Adamant1 (2020-06-14 08:22:32+00:00): Sorry, but I don't know what wrong change your referring to. I told you it was already tagged as a place that doesn't sell motorcycles and sells clothing before I tagged it as a clothing store and like I said, I rather assume the person who tagged it as a place that sells clothes knew what they were doing. If you think they were wrong and you rather go with the what's on the website maybe take it up with them first at least, and tag it as shop=motorcycle_parts instead, but I don't feel the need to and I think it's correct how it is. I do know that ignoring what I said and just repeating yourself that it's wrong like a robot and not actually discussing it with me or the original person that tagged it that way isn't going to resolve it one or another though.
Adamant1 (2020-06-14 08:26:51+00:00): It looks like the motorcycle:clothes=yes tag was originally added by ti-lo. Since he lives in Germany and rides motorcycles I'm assuming he's correct that the place sells clothes instead of motorcycles and didn't just tag it that way randomly.
PT-53 (2020-06-14 08:28:48+00:00): Auf der Homepage
https://www.germany-motorsports.com/
steht nichts, aber auch gar nichts von Motorradkleidung! Da werden Motorradteile verkauft.
Wenn Du etwas änderst, dann bitte richtig. So ist das - gem. Homepage -  genauso falsch wie vorher.
Adamant1 (2020-06-14 08:32:04+00:00): I agree with you it's not on the website that they sell clothes. But I'm telling you that I'm not the person that tagged it that way and the person that did lives in Germany and rides motorcycles. So he probably had a reason for doing it. I'm not what you don't get about that or why your not taking it up with him since he's the that put the freaken tag there. If it's wrong, I'm not the one that tagged it incorrectly, he did.
Adamant1 (2020-06-14 08:32:17+00:00): So take it up with him dude.
Adamant1 (2020-06-14 08:32:51+00:00): It's not on me that someone else screwed up the tagging.
Adamant1 (2020-06-14 08:33:50+00:00): I'm going to assume good faith that he didn't though. If your not willing to, that's on you. Don't blame me because your not willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that the place sells clothes though.
PT-53 (2020-06-14 08:35:28+00:00): Du hast eine Änderung vorgenommen, ohne diese vorher zu überprüfen. Dann wäre es auch Deine Aufgabe mit ti-lo Kontakt aufzunehmen.
Adamant1 (2020-06-14 08:35:33+00:00): Go argue with him about it.
PT-53 (2020-06-14 08:38:07+00:00): Vielleicht wird dort auch Motorradkleidung verkauft, aber hauptsächlich wohl Motorradteile! Diese Info fehlt jetzt!
Adamant1 (2020-06-14 08:41:31+00:00): Would you be satisfied with shop=motorcycle_parts? Because I agree that it shouldn't be tagged as a clothing store if they don't sell clothes,but for the same reasons it shouldn't be tagged as shop=motorcycle if they don't sell motorcycles. And shop=motorcycle_parts is the only alternative that I can think of.
Adamant1 (2020-06-14 08:58:09+00:00): BTW, the information that they sell parts isn't missing. Since I tagged it with parts=motorsports. It doesn't sound or look like from their from website that the parts they sell are exclusively for motorcycles. They all look rather generic from the pictures.
Adamant1 (2020-06-14 09:01:17+00:00): Also, there's a page on their website that lists clothes. Although it's currently empty, but that's probably where ti-lo got it from. I guess that's the problem with trying to tag store inventory with namespace tags. 

https://www.germany-motorsports.com/technik/sale/bekleidung
PT-53 (2020-06-14 09:07:44+00:00): Dann wäre doch
shop=motorcycle_parts
passender.
Adamant1 (2020-06-14 09:09:29+00:00): I think shop=motorcycle_parts would probably be the best tag. I'm OK with it if you are.
PT-53 (2020-06-14 10:32:26+00:00): Dann mach das.
Adamant1 (2020-06-14 10:38:44+00:00): IMO it wouldn't be on me to ask the last person who made the change about it in this case anymore then it would be for someone to when doing a basic tag upgrade in iD Editor. If that were the standard nothing would ever updated and it would be the same map there was 10 years ago. It is on you to discuss something if your the one that disagrees with it though. 

Anyway, I changed the tag. So, at least this is dealt with. Hopefully it's settled now.
PT-53 (2020-06-14 11:02:29+00:00): Die letzte Person, die etwas geändert hat, warst Du!
Adamant1 (2020-06-14 11:07:03+00:00): It's dealt with. Let it go!
eggie (2020-06-09 09:04:21+00:00): correct
eggie (2020-06-09 09:09:14+00:00): Beste Tijs.. Houd het gebied van je edits wat kleiner.. niet schuiven met de kaart in editmodus.
Geef concreet aan wat je doet. 
Wanneer je een schoolterrein aangeeft probeer dan ook het terrein aan te geven. 
Wat is Da Robuuste vesting /vlonder?
eggie (2020-06-09 09:16:57+00:00): het terrein van de school aangepast. het gebouw hersteld en de naam van de school gecorrigeerd.
Dat was niet Rehothschool
Tijssienius (2020-06-09 09:35:13+00:00): oke bedankt voor de correctie van de naam en de tips, da robuuste vesting/vlonder is een gebouwtje dat op dat terrein staat, ik ken de mensen die daar wonen
eggie (2020-06-09 10:27:10+00:00): Map what's on the ground.... je kunt gerust iets toevoegen. Was alleen nieuwsgierig.
Mapse
Eggie
Glassman (2020-06-09 15:16:50+00:00): Why is this a landuse=military?
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            Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.org/changesets/86394114
DataKinds (2020-06-11 00:44:56+00:00): As this situation is more or less without precedent in the USA, I couldn't find an accurate land use. I'm also very new to OSM, so please feel free to correct me.
adiatmad (2022-12-28 03:14:03+00:00): Good work on your edits! However, it would be preferable to avoid adding a generic name, such as name=Stream (https://pewu.github.io/osm-history/#/way/814100844). You might want to take a look at this page (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Names_are_not_for_descriptions). Happy mapping!
Frans S (2020-06-10 17:44:51+00:00): Hello. Thanks for mapping here
Please do not use the tag 'Road" which is to generec
Please check this document
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa
Best regards
user_5359 (2020-06-13 11:19:23+00:00): Willkommen bei OSM! Bitte beachte den Unterschied zwischen Höhe (height) und Höhe über Normal Null (ele). Die 551 m Objekthöhe glaube ich für eine einfache Messstation nicht ganz.
moderich (2020-06-18 16:39:41+00:00): Hallo! Danke für die Information; war so nicht gedacht ;-). Habs gerade geändert.
Grüße!
robbieonsea (2020-06-09 21:13:55+00:00): Not quite sure what you are trying to acheive here. Langstone Bridge (in various sections) is already in OSM.
Changing/modifying complex things can be difficult without more experience in the OSM ecosystem.
Константин Гам (2020-06-09 21:25:32+00:00): Убедительная просьба не добавлять повторно уже существующие точки! Обновляйте карты в приложении еженедельно, прежде чем вносить правки!
Agathe67 (2020-06-09 21:25:54+00:00): Hallo Chaasfondue,

hat es einen Grund weshalb du die Hausnummer zusätzlich am Eingang einträgst?

Die Hausnummer ist (wie du sicherlich gesehen hast) schon am Gebäudeumriss erfasst gewesen.

Grüße
Agathe
Chaasfondue (2020-06-09 21:40:37+00:00): Hallo Agathe,
ich dachte, diese Funktion würde die genaue Zuordnung der Hauseingänge definieren. Du hast natürlich Recht, dass das in gewisser Weise redundant ist. Ich nehme es wieder raus...
Danke für den Hinweis und viele Grüße!
Chaasfondue
Agathe67 (2020-06-14 21:33:27+00:00): Danke für die Änderung.

Eines hätte ich noch.
Du hast bei den drei Gebäuden "building:levels=3" eingetragen.

Mein Vorschlag wäre:
"building:levels=2"
"roof:levels=2"

Weitere Infos zu Geschossangaben findest du auch im Wiki:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:building:levels

Viele Grüße
Agathe
Chaasfondue (2020-06-15 10:37:21+00:00): OK, das müssten wir vielleicht doch nochmal vertiefen: Nr. 27 hat einen Keller, drei Vollgeschosse (EG, 1. OG, 2.OG) und einen Dachboden. Nach Wiki sollte das doch dann so gezählt werden:
"building:levels=3" 
"roof:levels=1"
"building:levels:underground=1"
Soweit einverstanden?

Nr. 25/25a ist prinzipiell gleich aufgebaut, allerdings ist der Keller über den Hof ebenerdig begehbar (entspräche "D" auf dem Prinzipbild)
Dann müsste es eigentlich so sein:
"building:levels=4" 
"roof:levels=1"
Liege ich da richtig?

Viele Grüße
Chaasfondue
Agathe67 (2020-06-15 20:54:19+00:00): Gerne.

Zu Nr.25/25a:
Das mit dem Innenhof hatte ich übersehen. 
Alle Stockwerke die sich im Dachstuhl befinden, werden zu "roof:levels" gezählt:
"building:levels=3"
"roof:levels=2" 

Die Nr. 27 kenne ich jedoch nicht. Ggf. müsste es dann aber so aussehen, wenn die Zählung von Stockwerken im Dachstuhl noch korrigiert werden muss:
"building:levels=2"
"roof:levels=2"
"building:levels:underground=1" 

Viele Grüße
Agathe
Chaasfondue (2020-06-16 15:46:17+00:00): OK, sobald man schräge Wände hat, zählt es als roof level. Das habe ich jetzt verstanden und geändert.
Bei der 27 muss ich mal recherchieren. Da ist im 3.OG ein Penthouse und ein sehr flaches Walmdach oben drauf. Von aussen sieht das so aus, als wäre das ein ganz normales Vollgeschoss ohne Dachbeteiligung. 
Viele Grüße
Agathe67 (2020-06-16 20:35:52+00:00): Wunderbar :-)

Für Fragen jeglicher Art zu OpenStreetMap verweise ich gerne auf das OSM-Forum: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=14

Oder auf folgendes schöne Tutorial für den Einstieg: https://einklich.net/osm/osm-tutorial.pdf

Viele Grüße
Agathe
Chaasfondue (2020-06-17 06:21:05+00:00): So, habe das geklärt: Penthouse ist ohne Schrägen, darüber liegend mit separatem Zugang der Dachboden. Steht jetzt so drin: 
"building:levels=3" 
"roof:levels=1" 
"building:levels:underground=1"
Danke dir für die Links und die Tips!
Viele Grüße Chaasfondue
Adamant1 (2020-06-11 06:15:33+00:00): Hi there. Do you mind if I ask why you re-tagged this? The place doesn't sell motorcycles. So it shouldn't be tagged as motorcycle shop. Otherwise, it forces the usage of a bunch of extra tags that are redundant and not helpful. OSM is a map of existing objects. Not an inventory of what the objects aren't. 

Plus, scooters aren't motorcycles. There's some really clear differences between the two. Also, people who ride scooters tend not to ride motorcycles and visa versa. So tagging this a motorcycle shop when it obviously isn't is massively miss-leading and doesn't help map consumers.
dcapillae (2020-06-11 09:16:51+00:00): Hi, Adamant1. Thank you for your comment.

The POI is tagging according to these wiki guidelines: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dmotorcycle

A place where you can (only) rent a scooter could be tagged with:

shop=motorcycle 

motorcycle:rental=only

motorcycle:tpe=scooter
Adamant1 (2020-06-11 09:33:58+00:00): I'm aware of what the wiki article says. A few things though

1. The article also says that motorcycle repair shops should be tagged as shop=motorcycle and motorcycle:repair=yes. When there is the widely used and well supported shop=motorcycle_repair tag. Which it doesn't even mention. So, it's clearly out of date and just plain wrong with it recommendations. 

2. The says in multiple places that we should use the most descriptive top level tag on objects and that it should integrate with already existing tagging schemes. Which the namespace doesn't do. those standards underlines everything OSM. 

3. It also warns against over-namespacing and gives specific instances where they should be or not, and this clearly an instance where they shouldn't be. namespaces are not intended to be used for tagging "inventory" (that's not the purpose of the map but that's how people use them) or as a replacement to a more descriptive top level tag. It shouldn't be tagged as a shop if it doesn't sell things and namespaces shouldn't be used a work around to it. Period. That wasn't the intent behind the namespaces originally anyway. They are meant to be tagged on places that rent multiple things to show what they rent. Not on a place that only rents one item as a way to use a less descriptive shop or amenity tag then we can. 

So, is it better to go with a single outdated and clearly wrong Wiki article, that is currently locked due to edit warring by the person that inserted the bit about namespaces into it in the first place btw, or should we go with well established and universally agreed OSM conventions? IMO we should go with the OSM conventions.
Adamant1 (2020-06-11 09:42:54+00:00): BTW, if you want some good examples of why the namespace scheme is problematic and not the way to go aside from what I've said, checkout node 4533584497. Where it's being used to tag the inventory of a motorcycle shops website, or way 464318381. Where before I re-tagged it to a clothing store it took 5 no namespace tags just show that it's clothing store "because the wiki." You'd have to be nuts to say the shop=motorcycle article should be followed in either of cases. Or are you going to argue that I shouldn't tag a clothing store as a clothing store,at the expensive of 5 totally useless extra tags just so people know what the place is, just because the shop=motorcycle article says the tag can be used on places that sell motorcycle clothes?
dcapillae (2020-06-11 09:44:16+00:00): Thank you, Adamant1.

I have followed the recommendations of the wiki. If the wiki article is outdated or clearly wrong it should be discussed with the OSM community. This place may not be the best place to discuss that issue.
Adamant1 (2020-06-11 09:52:05+00:00): It's already been discussed that we should use the most descriptive top level tag that can that integrates with other tags. It's a universal standard and there's zero reason to re-litigate it. The shop=motorcycle article can't be altered anyway even if it was discussed though because like I said it's locked due to edit warring. And the person who's actions caused it to be locked doesn't care about discussions or the consensus of the OSM community. This is like the third time it's been locked because of it. 

Aside from just because the shop=motorcycle article says so, what actual problem do you have with tagging it as a rental place instead of a shop?
dcapillae (2020-06-11 09:56:50+00:00): Adamant1 said: «The shop=motorcycle article can't be altered anyway even if it was discussed though because like I said it's locked due to edit warring».

You could discuss it with the wiki administrators. It's clearly an issue I can't help you with. Thank you.
Adamant1 (2020-06-11 10:02:35+00:00): I didn't say you were suppose to. The point was that the Wiki article is wrong and is going to say what's going to say for the time being. So since that's not an option right now, something else needs to be figured out, because there's zero reason your opinion or one wrong article should win out over mine or well established and documented guidelines. 

So, what problem aside form what the shop=motorcycle article says do you have with it being tagged as a rental place instead of a shop?
Adamant1 (2020-06-11 10:05:17+00:00): I'd even be fine with tagging it with amenity=motorcycle_rental for the time being instead of a shop and getting rid of the few miss-leading tags until things with the article can better worked out.
Adamant1 (2020-06-11 10:05:56+00:00): I don't really care. As long as the miss-leading tags are gotten rid of.
Adamant1 (2020-06-11 10:44:43+00:00): Alright then. If your just going to not answer my question and ignore what I said I'll just re-tag it back to how I had it. Your free to discuss with the OSM community that you don't think tagging conventions should be followed though.
dcapillae (2020-06-11 13:48:35+00:00): Adamant1 said: "what problem aside form what the shop=motorcycle article says do you have with it being tagged as a rental place instead of a shop?"

I have no problem, Adamant1. Thank you for your comments.
robbieonsea (2020-06-09 21:17:29+00:00): Seems an OK change to me.
I only learnt that Hayling Island was twinned with Gorron when I cycled through Gorron itself!
aceman444 (2024-05-29 22:16:50+00:00): Hi, many of these 3D buildings you did in Venice are actually technically very wrong with overlapping volumes or not connected building parts which leave a small gap between parts that then assume the hight of the main building creating non-existent spikes and walls. See e.g. https://demo.f4map.com/#lat=45.4376583&lon=12.3251732&zoom=19&camera.theta=55.313&camera.phi=64.25 .
I hope you have learned better since the time of this changeset (4 years) and create higher quality buildings.
See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_3D_Buildings .

Also provide your real sources of the changes. You claim Bing, but you cannot see the building heights so precisely (in metres) on Bing). So you must have other source, which you must quote in your changesets.

Also, (going by your nickname) make sure you do not take anything from Google company (like its maps), as that is illegal and unsuited for OSM.
Jerem_K (2020-06-13 20:35:45+00:00): Hej, båda Lycée Français och Essingeskolan använder den större byggnaden
johantiden (2020-06-13 21:10:29+00:00): Ok. Då föreslår jag att vi mappar respektive huvudingång/reception med en node, och låter resten vara omappat.

Märker också att landuse=education inte renderas med gul area. Funderar på vad man borde göra där. Hmm.
johantiden (2020-06-15 07:42:19+00:00): Vet du var huvudingångarna är?
Jerem_K (2020-06-15 19:41:40+00:00): Ja, jag ska precis ta koordinater i morgon med min mobil. Lycée Français och Essingeskolan använder samma huvudingång.