piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
Bernhard W (2021-01-24 10:45:58+00:00): Bezug: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/289226460
Die Änderungen von 
bicycle = no -> yes und
lcn = yes
werde ich zurück ändern:

Von Süden: an der Kreuzung steht Zeichen DE:239 (Gehweg) ohne Zusatz, vgl. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Tag:traffic_sign%3DDE:239

Von Norden: linker Sonderweg, ab Tankstelle ohne Freigabe für Radverkehr, vgl. StVO § 2 Abs. 4, Satz 4.

-> Radverkehr ist nach StVO in beiden Richtungen verboten.

Bitte auf die Beschilderungen achten, besonders beim Ändern von Einträgen
Tomas Straupis (2020-09-02 13:32:50+00:00): For example this road has a high level of maintenance/traffic etc, it definately NOT tracktype3 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/229773763 All residential and higher highways (at least in Lithuania) would NEVER have less than tracktype2 therefore such tags are pointless and therefore they are not mapped by local community.
CRCulver (2020-09-02 15:18:53+00:00): No, there is a distinction between tracktype 2 and tracktype 3 even on maintained roads that is commonly used for bicycle route-planning purposes. Tracktype 2 is high-quality gravel that remains a hard surface all the time. Tracktype 3 is either:

1) Gravel mixed with loose soil and sand that is not sandy enough to be surface=sand, but soft and slippery enough for cyclists that some would prefer to avoid it, or:

2) Roads that turn muddy after rain. 

Thus, routing may guide a cyclist down type-2 roads, but it would avoid type-3 roads unless the cyclist specifies a trekking profile. By my personal survey of the road to which you link, this is type 3.

And no, these tags are not "pointless" even if you think the local community shows little interest in them. Residential roads in Finland are of equal standard to Lithuania's, i.e. track types 2 and 3, but many residential roads there now have the tracktype= tag. There is absolutely no reason that a mapper cannot come along and add these tags (which are verifiable, just get a bike and cycle after some rain) in whatever country on earth.
Tomas Straupis (2020-09-02 15:27:43+00:00): Chrm, strange. Something is completely wrong here as you're trying to use the same tag „tracktype“ for completely different purpose than it was used for years. There is almost one hundred thousands of ways with tracktype in Lithuania (increasing steadily) and classification is totally different from what you describe.
Where are you getting such description from as this is not mentioned on tracktype wiki page?
The problem is that if you add tracktype with the meanings you describe, where would the standard meaning of tracktype would go? How would one know if some specific tracktype tag is for bicycles of for usual use?
CRCulver (2020-09-02 15:38:47+00:00): The distinction I just described has been relevant to bicycle routing for years. I assume that it was taken up by based simply on the wiki entry for tracktype: "Grade2: Solid but unpaved. Grade3: Mostly solid. Even mixture of hard and soft materials." 

Obviously grade1 is not usable here, because that applies only to segments of tracks with an e.g. asphalt or concrete covering. The sole way to denote the difference between unpaved and consistently solid, and unpaved but not consistently solid, is thus between type 2 and 3.
Tomas Straupis (2020-09-02 15:44:07+00:00): Sorry, but I do not read what you read from tracktype wiki page. Tertiary road with an official 4digit number cannot be "soft" (some small defective spots - maybe, but not in general), it will be at least gravel. And again: are you going to change remaining 88000 tracktype tags in Lithuania and persuade Lithuanian mappers to start tag differently?
CRCulver (2020-09-02 15:54:20+00:00): As I said above, even gravel can be soft sometimes. There is gravel that consists solely of stones, and there is gravel that is a mix of stones and loose soil, and there is a ton of the latter in Lithuania. (In June I cycled some roads in central Lithuania that were dozens of kilometers of this horrible loose-soil gravel.) The difference between these two road types has a big impact on the speed and feasibility of cycling, and it should be represented using the internationally recognized tracktype tag for the sake of data consumers.

You keep mentioning "tags in Lithuania" and "Lithuanian mappers", but I am really not interested in perpetuating any country-specific tagging traditions unless I see real community support for these. So far, you appear to be the only person monitoring, reviewing, and reverting, and therefore it is impossible for me to know what is a local mapping tradition with real community support behind it, and what is the insistence of merely one editor. I make the same edits in LT that I would make in any other country, based on what I have seen across countries. When there is guidance on the wiki about local tagging practices, I may heed that (though if it is really different from the surrounding countries, then I think it makes sense to ask in an international venue like the forum or the mailing list whether the Lithuanian tagging might be harmonizing with the international mainstream), but in this case I assert that my edits are indeed verifiable for anyone else traveling those roads.
Tomas Straupis (2020-09-02 16:18:19+00:00): Local community has mapped 88000 tracktypes with interpretation perfectly fine with wiki page but different from your interpretation. You may ignore local mappers but do you really believe this would help persuade them to do the work for you and not fix the tags to the values we use? And so far you have failed to provide places/pages/books/whatever which support your interpretation for tracktype which primary use has NEVER been for bicycle usage. Wiki page does NOT say what you claim.
CRCulver (2020-09-02 16:37:43+00:00): "do you really believe this would help persuade them to do the work for you"

I am not trying to persuade local mappers to do anything. My edits are purely made to document the state of a road for the sake of future road users. I then expect 1) my personal survey helps guide other cyclists in route planning, and 2) if another cyclist is routed down that particular road, he or she will agree with my tagging and feel that they were appropriately guided.

"primary use has NEVER been for bicycle usage"

I never claimed that the tracktype tag’s "primary usage" is for bicycles. Rather, what I said is that its primary usage (as mentioned on the wiki) is to denote a distinction between consistently solid and not consistently solid, and after that tagging definition arose, cyclists have appreciated using that distinction between type 2 and type 3 for their own routing.

With regard to real-world usage of this distinction, take Brouter as an example. It sees tracktype=grade3 as a road that is maintained, softer than grade3, but not unmaintained like grade4.
CRCulver (2020-09-02 16:38:10+00:00): Sorry, that should have been: "It sees tracktype=grade3 as a road that is maintained, softer than grade2, but not unmaintained like grade4."
Tomas Straupis (2020-09-02 17:37:47+00:00): So no source to prove your interpretation. Sorry, but I see no reason to change the way we use tracktype then.
CRCulver (2020-09-02 20:56:19+00:00): I just gave you a source: Brouter. The code is on Github. In this case, the Brouter devs' understanding of what the tracktypes mean is set out in vm-forum-liegerad-schnell.brf.

I have also just spoken with User:Richard, developer of the cycle.travel routing engine and longtime OSM developer. He concurs with my use of grade2 and grade3, respectively, on tertiary routes to represent this difference that is of importance for cyclists, and his own routing engine makes use of it.

"I see no reason to change the way we use tracktype then."

I really don’t care about the way you use tracktype= on roads that presently lack the tag. But if a cyclist comes along and tags a road based on his personal survey, in a way that is verifiable for any other cyclist who comes along, then it is inappropriate to revert it out of a purist fiat that “we have only grade2 in Lithuania", without ever actually traveling that road yourself on a bike.

Obviously road tagging is meant to benefit everyone, including travelers moving internationally and on different forms of transport. These non-Lithuanian users will not know (nor should they need to know) that some local editors in Lithuania refuse to permit a distinction in tracktype widely employed internationally and which routing engines actually draw on.
Tomas Straupis (2020-09-03 04:48:19+00:00): You do not understand what "source" is and have too little experience to prove otherwise. Wiki says gravel - track2. Period.
user_2066394 (2020-09-02 10:28:17+00:00): Du hast segregated=no und lit=no gelöscht, beide benötigen einen Wert.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:segregated
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:lit
Frans S (2020-09-02 11:07:23+00:00): Hello AlexCler
Thanks for mapping here
Did you get no warning before you uploaded your mappings? The issue triangle had given a warning that the lines did have a tagging.
Please tag each mapping.
Please read this document again.
https://learnosm.org/en/beginner/id-editor/#configuring-the-background-layer
Frans S (2020-09-02 09:33:44+00:00): Hello. 

Thank you for mapping on this project.
Your mapping are rather fair and accurate but lacks the finishing touch of squaring them.
Most buildings here are rectangular. Please square each of them with the Q key in the editor
Please do not include courtyards in your buildings as well

Here are some tips and hints which might be helpful to improve your mapping skills

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vT_4K-s7HItsGTDt4dx43C3iD7u5uHtUyvasd_eMUQIq9zWbwlMXQk90jDHcdq6OcOnMc6B1NHYG4cO/pub
Best regards and keep mapping
Frans S (2020-09-02 09:57:07+00:00): Hi. Back again
This is a building project only.
But if you map roads, please use the correct tagging as highway=.... not roadmarking=...
See the highway wiki for JOSM
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SxLkCU3IRecsFV2kYx61VImJLLtQiKw3/view
SomeoneElse (2020-09-07 14:18:15+00:00): Hello,
How do your changes to https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/825546461/history help in any way?  All you have done there is to remove a value that you do not understand.  I would suggest in cases like this that you flag problems up to original editors.  In that example, you could do that at https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/87892217 .
Best Regards,
Andy
SomeoneElse (2020-09-07 14:18:33+00:00): Hallo,
Wie helfen Ihre Änderungen an https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/825546461/history in irgendeiner Weise? Alles, was Sie dort getan haben, ist, einen Wert zu entfernen, den Sie nicht verstehen. In solchen Fällen würde ich vorschlagen, dass Sie Probleme den ursprünglichen Redakteuren melden. In diesem Beispiel können Sie dies unter https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/87892217 tun.
Freundliche Grüße,
Andy
uboot (2020-09-11 12:47:05+00:00): Hallo Andy,
leider ist mir an dieser Stelle der Fehler unterlaufen, dass ich sehr weit gestreute Änderungen in einem Änderungssatz zusammengefasst habe.
Jede Änderung betrifft den Key tracktype, welcher Werte von grade1 bis grade5 haben kann. Leider waren alle betreffenden Wege mit „tracktype=grade“ versehen und die Zahl fehlte. Somit ist keine Aussage zur Beschaffenheit des Weges eingetragen. Jedoch ist dies nicht direkt für jeden und jede Editiersoftware ersichtlich. Zum 02.09.2020 waren 306 unterschiedliche Werte für den Key tracktype gesetzt. Die meisten nur einmal oder sehr selten. Durch meine Änderungen sind es aktuell nur noch 67 siehe Taginfo [1]. Meist kommt dies durch Tippfehler oder Unwissen der Mapper. Bevor ich dabei in diesem Fall jeder und jedem der Mapper in unzähligen Nachrichten schreibe, ändere ich die Daten so weit mir das möglich ist.
Viele Grüße
Markus
[1] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/tracktype#values
Frans S (2020-09-02 10:20:34+00:00): Hello. Thanks for mapping here
Please do not map a cluster of buildings and call it 1 building.
I invalidate this task (1086) to give you the opportunity to change these mappings
Here are some tips and hints which might be helpful to improve your mapping skills

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vT_4K-s7HItsGTDt4dx43C3iD7u5uHtUyvasd_eMUQIq9zWbwlMXQk90jDHcdq6OcOnMc6B1NHYG4cO/pub
Best regards and keep mapping
user_5359 (2020-09-09 08:26:10+00:00): Willkommen bei OSM! Bitte beachte: Eine Adresse gehört zum (Haupt-)Gebäude nicht zur Straße oder zum Grundstück.
Frans S (2020-10-07 10:01:11+00:00): Hello. Thanks for mapping 
Please follow the tagging of highways in accordance to this document
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa
It can be used here as well
Best regards
mueschel (2020-09-03 16:29:27+00:00): Welcome to OSM!
You added many tags that are not used by anybody else.
In OSM we have to use a well-defined set of tags to allow all the software tools to understand the data and e.g. show it on maps.
Please use only keys that are documented in the Wiki or are available as presets in your editor.
Thanks!
mueschel (2020-09-03 16:28:41+00:00): Welcome to OSM!
You added many tags that are not used by anybody else.
In OSM we have to use a well-defined set of tags to allow all the software tools to understand the data and e.g. show it on maps.
Please use only keys that are documented in the Wiki or are available as presets in your editor.
Thanks!
Mordechai23 (2020-09-04 17:25:56+00:00): ten odcinek jest w trakcie remontu. rozebrano tory i podkłady, będą kłaść nowe i pewnie zmieni się układ torowy na pary stacjach. Na pewnie nie jest to disused
Mateusz Konieczny (2020-09-04 22:27:11+00:00): Jeśli jest używane to można poprawić, w tej edycji nie zmieniłem danych na mapie tylko sposób ich zapisu.

Zarówno przed jak i po mojej edycji było to oznaczone jako nieużywane.

Śmiało popraw jeśli było to błędne.
skyper (2020-09-02 10:29:30+00:00): Still no tags about your employer and the task your are doing on the changeset.

How do you find the places you are editing on. Is there not at least one source missing?

Please, first, solve all issues , instead of simply continuing your work. This counts for all of you not just you as a person. So, just turn of the power and tell everyone.

skyper
Mordechai23 (2020-09-04 17:22:36+00:00): no właśnie jest używane, na czas remontu odcinka Sobótka-Wrocław LK285 pociągi z kruszywem z Sobótki jadą w stronę Świdnicy. Po tym remoncie pojawią się też pociągi pasażerskie KD
Mordechai23 (2020-09-04 17:41:30+00:00): https://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/wiadomosci/czesc-linii-285-od-swidnicy-do-sobotki-jest-juz-przejezdna-kiedy-koniec-prac-zdjecia-97832.html
Mateusz Konieczny (2020-09-04 22:26:13+00:00): Jeśli jest używane to można poprawić, w tej edycji nie zmieniłem danych na mapie tylko sposób ich zapisu.

Zarówno przed jak i po mojej edycji było to oznaczone jako nieużywane.

Śmiało popraw jeśli było to błędne.
Mateusz Konieczny (2020-09-04 22:29:27+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2335928
Mordechai23 (2020-09-05 11:07:11+00:00): aaa rozumiem, jak jakiś czas temu zaczęła się wyświetlać na domyślnym podkładzie osm.org to przyjąłem w myslach że ktoś oznaczył już jako czynną ;)
nw520 (2020-09-02 16:04:05+00:00): Bonjour Ndiaye93, j'ai remarqué que tu avais créé pas mal de nouvelles entrées à Forbach. En raison de la structure incompatible avec OpenStreetMap et de la spécification d'un tag "fid", je crois que tu avais importé ces données d'une base de données externe. Alors, s'il te plaît, dites-moi ta source. Il y a aussi le problème que les données que tu avais créées sont actuellement difficilement utilisables en raison d'un schéma différent et que tu avais créé des doublons; un post-traitement approfondi de tes modifications est donc nécessaire.

S'il te plaît me répondre en anglais ou en allemand. Merci.
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Hallo Ndiaye93, mir ist aufgefallen, dass du in Forbach viele neue Einträge angelegt hast. Aufgrund der zu OpenStreetMap inkompatiblen Strukturierung und der Angabe eines "fid"-Tags, habe ich die Vermutung, dass du die Daten aus einer Datenbank entnommen hast. Bitte nenne mir daher deine Quelle. Bei den von dir angelegten Daten besteht zudem das Problem, dass diese derzeit aufgrund eines abweichenden Schemas kaum brauchbar sind und du überwiegend Duplikate angelegt hast; weshalb eine umfangreiche Nachbearbeitung deiner Änderungen nötig ist.
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Hello Ndiaye93, I noticed that you have created quite a lot of new entries in Forbach. Because of the incompatible structure to OpenStreetMap and the specification of a "fid" tag, I believe that you have imported that data from an external database. So please tell me your source. There is also the problem that the data you have created is hardly usable at the moment due to a different schema and that you have mostly created duplicates; therefore, an extensive post-processing of your changes is necessary.

(Referring to changesets 90299018,90298950,90298276,90297743,90297411,90297143,90297019,90296771,90296585,90296278,90296097,90296042,90295918,90295870,90295799,90294765,90294560)
nw520 (2020-09-14 18:28:04+00:00): Partially reverted
Carto'Cité (2020-09-16 15:42:35+00:00): Bonjour BaboucheVerte,
Tu as supprimé la piste cyclable qui servait pour la traversée. Pour moi c'est plutôt une bonne chose car elle est un peu en doublon avec le passage piéton. Par contre le passage piéton n'est pas décrit comme étant utilisable par les cyclistes et ségrégué (segregated). Je me permets de corriger dans ce sens mais si tu as une remarque n'hésite pas à me dire.
À bientôt :)
Charles de Carto’Cité pour #CartoVeloIdF
BaboucheVerte (2020-09-16 21:30:03+00:00): Bonjour ! 
Merci pour la vigilance et la modif. A vrai dire, sur le terrain il n'y a pas vraiment de piste cyclable parallèle au passage piéton en plus ...je ne comprends pas pk il y avait sans la bdd.
En reregardant, ca ne gêne pas qu'il y ait deux nodes "passage piéton surélevé" sur le way "passage piéton" sur lequel il y a access:bike=yes ? Ca ne me paraît pas très propre :)
Carto'Cité (2020-09-17 10:33:29+00:00): Merci pour ton retour
Tu parles de https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5318619593 et https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6705451426 ? Je ne vois pas le tag access:bike=yes. Mais non le fait d'en avoir 2 ne pose pas de problème et c'est même bon puisqu'il y a 2 way de traversés. Effectivement pour des stats il serait compté 2 fois mais pour du graphe de routage il y a bien besoin d'avoir les 2... c'est les limites du modèle :) et c'est débattable ;)
Charles
naveenpf (2020-09-16 01:48:07+00:00): Welcome to OSM India.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India

To join OSM India Telegram click on.
https://t.me/OSMIndia
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Frans S (2020-09-02 10:12:34+00:00): Hello. 

Thank you for mapping on this project.
Your mapping are not that accurate and lacks the finishing touch of squaring them
Most buildings here are rectangular. Please square each of them with the Q key in the editor
 You mapped also over an already mapped group buildings. Your mapping is more according to the form of the building. Please remove wrong mappings if you  overdraw them or correct 1 mapping and remove the others.

Here are some tips and hints which might be helpful to improve your mapping skills

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vT_4K-s7HItsGTDt4dx43C3iD7u5uHtUyvasd_eMUQIq9zWbwlMXQk90jDHcdq6OcOnMc6B1NHYG4cO/pub
Best regards and keep mapping
skyper (2020-09-03 11:19:32+00:00): Hi

Where is the identification that this is a Amazon logistic Edit?

Where is the #hashtag of the task?

Where is the ground source as stated in the wiki?

Reviewer?

Cheers skyper
mohanimr (2020-09-03 13:13:14+00:00): thanks for checking into our edits and providing us with the valuable inputs. as mentioned in the changeset discussion 89966935.our team is working on adding a #tag to edits and soon will be implemented. Can you let me know what is the ground source mentioned in the comment I didn’t get it. always happy to learn from the community.
skyper (2020-09-03 14:40:12+00:00): So the #hashtag is one of several issues regarding:

https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines

All of you stop editing until all issues are solved and tell your fellows and read the wiki mean-time.

Just take a look at your wiki page:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Amazon_Logistics#Editing_Process

> "They make an edit only if there is ground data available and all edits are reviewed by a second level reviewer. They also have a team of GIS experts who audit a random sample of reviewed cases to ensure high standards of edits contributed to OSM."

But just ask your instructor. They should now.

It is not my part to tell you the guidelines.
skyper
mohanimr (2020-09-04 13:14:42+00:00): Thanks for your response. Our lead had initiated the discussion in the OSM forum https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=800092#p800092. Thanks for your valuable inputs.
skyper (2020-09-05 09:53:47+00:00): Und auch Du schreibst hier nicht die Wahrheit. Bitte richtig Stellen und in eigenen Worten erklären, wie Du in Zukunft verhinderst, dass Du einfach die Unwahrheiten Deiner Vorgesetzten kopierst.

Weter hin kein Wort darüber, dass Ihr Eure eigenen Regeln brecht. Wie findest Du das persönlich?

Wo sind die versprochenen Bodenquellen und vor allem die Zugangsbestimmungen?
mohanimr (2020-09-07 14:52:28+00:00): Hi Skyper, 
Apologies if our response has been interpreted in other way!  We completely understand your concern here. We edit based on available OSM resources and make sure that our edits are inline with OSM Wiki editing guidelines.We are closely working on providing the #tags. Kindly, give us little time to get back on the same.
OSM_RogerWilco (2020-09-22 18:22:05+00:00): Hallo froschpi,
die beiden Eiscafes gibt es bereits:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3625878620
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3598492224
Ich lösche Deine Eintragungen wieder.
Gruß Roger Wilco
froschpi (2020-09-22 20:02:23+00:00): Hallo Roger,
sorry für die Missverständnisse - bin Anfänger hier und war irritiert, dass man in maps.me beim Schlagwort Eis nichts findet. Nun weiß ich, dass ich nach ice suchen muss.
Aber ist das nicht ein generelles Problem, dass es hier kein entsprechendes deutsches Schlagwort (Eis) gibt? Ein Hinweis, dass man besser nach englischen Schlagworten suchen sollte ist mir bisher nicht begegnet.
Gruß, Jörg
OSM_RogerWilco (2020-09-22 20:41:24+00:00): Hallo Jörg,
halb so wild. :-) 
Ich kenne maps.me nicht. Da müsstest Du Dich an die Hersteller/Entwickler von maps.me wenden. maps.me verwendet zwar die Daten von OSM aber OSM hat sonst nichts mit maps.me zu tun.
Es gibt auch andere Anbieter von Karten- oder Routing-Apps, die OSM-Daten verwenden. Z.B. OSMAnd, das ich benutze. Da kann man auch nach "Eis" suchen. ;-)
Juanma Jimenez (2020-09-28 15:19:56+00:00): Necesito que alguien lo publique.
mueschel (2020-09-03 16:30:20+00:00): Welcome to OSM!
You added many tags that are not used by anybody else.
In OSM we have to use a well-defined set of tags to allow all the software tools to understand the data and e.g. show it on maps.
Please use only keys that are documented in the Wiki or are available as presets in your editor.
Thanks!
aharvey (2020-09-02 13:22:31+00:00): hi what do you mean by temporary markings? Do you intend to delete them later? Are these existing on the ground, are they on the ground level?
Wr0nk (2020-09-03 16:32:20+00:00): They were unfinished ways, mapping the roof structures
aharvey (2020-09-04 02:11:37+00:00): Okay please don't tag them as highway=steps then if they are not steps there. You can just save your edits locally until you are ready to commit the change, or if you still want to upload it then leave the ways untagged and maybe add a note= tag so explain that you're still working on it.
aharvey (2020-09-04 02:13:50+00:00): also if you're tagging different parts of the buildings with different hights, but still part of the same building, then for the smaller inside parts it's standard to use https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:part, eg. building:part=yes and then leave the building tag for the outside way which is for the footprint.