piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
dcapillae (2019-07-25 12:17:18+00:00): Hola, Ereineon.

Gracias por comentar. Estoy de acuerdo contigo. No veo problema en limitar el lugar de culto a la iglesia si consideras que el espacio delantero no pertenece propiamente al lugar de culto, sino que es un espacio público cedido por la iglesia. Voy a cambiarlo conforme me indicas.

En cuanto al espacio delantero, creo que también estamos de acuerdo. Sería un espacio o área peatonal («area:highway=pedestrian» o «area:highway=footway»). Yo no lo etiquetaría como una plaza porque propiamente no es una plaza. Es simplemente el espacio delantero de la iglesia. En el callejero de Málaga no aparece este lugar identificado como una plaza. La etiqueta «place=square» está pensada para otro tipo de característica, normalmente lugares con nombre del tipo «Plaza...», «Plazoleta...», «Plazuela..», etc. 

De todas formas, prefiero seguir el criterio de las personas que conocen el terreno. Si conoces el nombre por el que la gente del lugar conocen este espacio, si lo llaman «Plaza de la Iglesia» o algo por el estilo, podríamos mapearlo. No hay problema.

Gracias por tu colaboración. Es un placer conocer mapeadores que prestan atención a estos detalles.

Atentamente,
Daniel
literan (2019-07-25 17:32:39+00:00): а зачем вы парковку "Гринвуда" удалили? https://osmcha.mapbox.com/changesets/72627842
Dot Nash (2019-07-26 12:20:03+00:00): возможно случайно. но там в рядом с вертолетным центром нет парковки. там стоянка строительной техники
literan (2019-07-27 11:01:02+00:00): ок. Я починил.
Herman Lee (2019-07-26 10:35:28+00:00): 您的编辑令人感到疑惑
emergency99 (2019-07-25 11:41:26+00:00): Was soll das genau sein? Und sollte das überhaupt gemappt werden, wenn es offenbar keine Tags dazu gibt?
No-Drone-Zones (2019-07-25 11:47:18+00:00): Hallo, das ist nur ein Muster für die Probe gewesen.
emergency99 (2019-07-25 11:54:47+00:00): Was für eine Probe? 
Außerdem: Testdaten sollte man nicht in der OSM Produktion abladen, sondern dafür eher den Test-API-Server nutzen: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sandbox_for_editing
viloan (2019-07-25 06:35:17+00:00): Bem-vindo(a) ao OpenStreetMap e parabéns pela sua primeira edição! :-)

Temos um portal brasileiro sobre o OpenStreetMap, com várias informações úteis em https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brasil

Enquanto você está se acostumando com o OpenStreetMap, é recomendado que sempre pergunte aos usuários mais experientes antes de remover ou modificar objetos do mapa, especialmente aqueles que são aparentemente "estranhos" ou "fora do lugar".

Além disso, pedimos que não copie dados de mapas proprietários (como nomes de ruas do Google Maps, por exemplo) e que mapeie apenas o que existe na realidade.

Se você está mapeando por causa do Pokémon, dê uma olhada em https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/12/01/dicas-para-novos-mapeadores-pokemon-go/?lang=pt-pt
Se você está mapeando por causa do jogo do Harry Potter, as dicas e explicações na página anterior também são úteis para você.

Se tiver qualquer tipo de dúvida você pode entrar em contato com a comunidade brasileira através de algum dos canais disponíveis em https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt:Contact
O canal "Comunidade" do Telegram costuma ser o mais movimentado.

Abraço e boa diversão com suas edições!
Frans S (2019-08-07 17:52:18+00:00): Hello. Thanks for mapping. Please Use the Maxar P imagery for next mappings here. See instructions.
freebeer (2019-08-03 23:15:58+00:00): this is interesting that the newly-added drive itself has no co-located nodes, but ridge park drive now has five overlapping nodes at the junction.  my head hurts.
gseethar (2019-08-06 07:27:25+00:00): Hi Freebeer, 
For a larger segment, we do ensure there are no self intersecting segments. I have fixed this issue here. 
Please let us know your suggestion.
Regards, 
Ganesh
freebeer (2019-08-07 13:10:27+00:00): mojn ganesh,

i would suggest with the frequency of this bug, you open an issue at the github iD editor repository:
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues
thereby selling your soul or at least personal details to what is now microsoft.

i checked the first two pages but with 441 open issues, i did not feel like seeing if it has been reported already months ago.

i presume the iD developers are unofficially aware of this issue, as i'm sure were i again to suggest switching to JOSM (or even Potlatch2 for the sorts of edits i see your team appearing on OSMI) their kibo-detection algorithm would result in a repeat of an earlier changeset comment followup that gets nowhere.

my sympathies do go out to the iD developers as i cannot see this error being reproducible, nor consistent, and these edge cases with not two but five overlapping nodes, that i flag when i find them, do not seem logical.

in any case, official notice will be a start, and i will continue to comment in changesets on unusual cases or patterns i discover.
freebeer (2019-08-07 13:29:09+00:00): urgh, i should have verified this earlier, but when i invoke Potlatch2 deliberately here, at https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=potlatch2&way=707194420#map=17/38.77517/-121.19255 , i see from the red-white no-vehicle-traffic-sign-alike there are still overlapping nodes, so either your repair just merged a pair rather than all, or you need to step through the nodes and manually delete the others.

i have noted in Potlatch2 i have needed to repeat the `j'oin merge keystroke in probably similar cases, before i started stepping by node for a deeper analysis, as well in preserving the tagging from one particular node that otherwise might be lost, like a turning circle.

sorry for the bad news :-)
bhousel (2019-08-07 18:12:52+00:00): freebeer, the issue about the duplicate nodes is https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/6327
gseethar (2019-08-12 09:04:56+00:00): Hi Freebeer, Bhousel,

We tried to recreate the bug, but we are not able to. Currently we are trying to be little careful during edit and audit the edits post they are saved. Let us know your suggestions.

Regards,
Ganesh
User1 - Lightcyphers (2019-07-31 07:51:34+00:00): UKR: added destination=Киiв;added destination:ref=M-03
RicoElectrico (2020-03-10 11:06:19+00:00): Cześć, spójrz proszę na https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/2116537
eggie (2019-07-25 07:21:47+00:00): Welkom bij OpenStreetMap. Ik heb een uitgebreid welkomstbericht met wat handige tips en links gestuurd als privébericht.
eggie (2019-07-25 07:25:25+00:00): Dag Pijnacker.. het Rietzangerspad loopt nu nergens meer heen. Je geeft aan dat het fietspad er niet meer is, maar met het fietspad zelf heb je verder niets gedaan?
Komt hier dan een andere aansluiting in de toekomst?
MVG,
Eggie
Pijnacker246 (2019-07-25 07:37:53+00:00): goed dat je oplet. in de editor was nog wel een weg te zien, na opslaan niet meer. Ik heb er nu een toegangsweg van gemaakt.
A67-A67 (2019-07-25 11:05:14+00:00): De service-weg / toegangsweg ligt iets oostelijker dan het geplande fietspad (Rietzangerpad). Ik heb beide daarom weer hersteld op de correcte locatie. 

Op dit moment ligt er een voltooid fietspad vanuit het Lint van Ackerswoude over de fietsbrug. Daarna heb je een flauwe bocht naar rechts de toegangsweg op.
ma-rt-in (2019-07-25 08:37:12+00:00): Hallo,
was genau stellt die POI in wirklichkeit dar? Wenn es ein Café ist, bitte auch als solches kartieren!
vg
lukaszm89 (2019-08-07 12:33:01+00:00): This change set contains building 707196686 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/707196686 that has more than 20 km2
I think some kind of miss click happened
PT-53 (2019-07-25 07:27:53+00:00): Siehe https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/72592221
PT-53 (2019-07-25 07:47:50+00:00): Kommentar in falschen CS eingetragen.
freebeer (2019-08-02 10:28:39+00:00): i have fixed the duplicate nodes added here, but you may wish to review https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/707197542 which is drawn as a loop implying no connectivity to the service drive to its west, which mapbox imagery does not support.

thanks
gseethar (2019-08-02 12:31:53+00:00): Thanks a lot for helping with the Duplicate node issue. I have gone ahead and made a connection of the loop to the service roads -  changeset #: 72937877.

Regards,
Ganesh
User1 - Lightcyphers (2019-07-31 07:50:30+00:00): UKR: added destination=Кольчино;added destination:ref=M-06
freebeer (2019-07-28 11:08:42+00:00): hello amazon team, me again.

wanted to point out self-intersecting loop at https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/707200584 which i hope i remember to fix and save before you see this.

this is three days old, at least half as old as when i mentioned this not-infrequent issue.

also, while i just said i would probably not report duplicate nodes in ways again, there seem to be maybe a dozen nearby in this part of texas, the first i viewed also an amazon edit.  unsure if i will quietly fix them, or work 3lsewhere and hope someone else bags 'em, or quickly view them for analysis.
ma-rt-in (2019-07-25 08:40:27+00:00): Hallo,
deine Änderung war nicht vollständig. Vermutlich ist die Route ist noch mehr kaputt wie vorher. Verlläuft die den tatsächlich nun nördlich der Gleise oder war das nur erfunden?
vg
baloona (2019-07-25 08:47:03+00:00): na klar ist das nur erfunden :-) südlich der Gleise ist nun mal kein Druchkommen, wozu soll man Radfahrer da langschicken? Nach Ende der Baustelle kann die Stadt sich gern zu einer neuen Routenführung äußern.
ma-rt-in (2019-07-25 08:48:04+00:00): Wie mappen das was vor Ort ausgeschildert ist, und wenn der Weg halt gesperrt ist, das ist das so.
baloona (2019-07-25 09:00:40+00:00): die Ausschilderung von Radwegen ist hier gern recht spärlich. Ob an der Kreuzung Messeplatz konkret ein Schild zum HF10 steht, wage ich zu bezweifeln. Denn Sinn von cyclingrouten sehe ich dann, Hinweise von Ortskundigen an Erstbefahrer zu geben. "source=local knowledge".
Wie stehst Du dazu?
ma-rt-in (2019-07-25 09:11:42+00:00): Für OSM werden ausgeschilderte Routen erfasst, und keine durch Mund-Propagander weitergegebenen Wege. Das hängt mit der Überprüfbarkeit zusammen. Es gibt sicherlich jemanden, nicht ich, der deine Änderungen wieder über den Haufen werfen wird, da diese nicht vor Ort ersichtlich ist. 
Wenn die Stadt keine Alternativ-Route ausgeschildert hat, dann ist das nun mal so.
baloona (2019-07-26 07:10:52+00:00): Nachtrag: war gestern vor Ort.
ad 1) Ausschilderung an Kreuzung Messeplatz: Fehlanzeige
ad 2) Sperrung Tiergartenstraße nachgetragen
Temporäre Umleitung der Route HF10 scheint mir angemessen und im Sinne des Betreibers. 
Reparaturen, sobald es etwas zu reparieren gibt.
Wir mappen nicht für den Renderer, oder den Router, sondern für die Nutzer.
Frans S (2019-08-02 09:37:08+00:00): Hello OpenLoire. I am reviewing this task as well and noticed again the poor quality of your mappings. They are not of great help. Almost all of them had to be adjusted to the correct outlines of the buildings, which cost more time than to map them correct at the initial mapping
Please take a look to this picture which is representative for your mappings
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1vXOCevBlYo23tMo3G6oAIr2rF57T5HOB

Please take a look to this one as well
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1SSjFbOJzyBpnv5M73B-60LBM-jMyGzed
It seems to me that you are playing around by just mapping 1 rectangular, copy that and paste it at random  a number of times. You did not even take the time to adjust them in line with the buildings.  
Please improve your mapping skills and use MAXAR P as imagery,
Thanks
User4 - Lightcyphers (2019-07-31 08:21:39+00:00): UKR: added destination:int_ref:backward=E105;oneway=yes;destination:ref:backward=M18;destination:ref:forward=M18;destination:int_ref:forward=E105
pitscheplatsch (2019-07-25 09:58:01+00:00): Please don't add test data to the live OSM Server. 
If you want a test server, perhaps http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/ would work for you? Furthermore, can you revert your edits?

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WoodWoseWulf (2019-07-26 02:54:44+00:00): Hi!

Thanks for your recent good additions to the map :)

Just a couple of hints:

1) If a footway intersects a road or another footway and they touch in real life, they should join on the map as well. It's also good to connect the ends of paths to the road if they connect so that they can be used for routing. You can also designate the type of crossing at the connection point of roads and paths.

2) Parking aisles are used to show roads through parking lots, you normally should map parking lots as areas or points and then connect them to roads where possible rather than just having a floating parking aisle.
User4 - Lightcyphers (2019-07-31 08:10:25+00:00): UKR: added destination=Калинівка;Вінниця;Могилів-Подільський;destination:ref=M-21;destination:int_ref=E 583
Le_Bogg (2019-07-25 08:13:34+00:00): Added description now.
Not the name and URL like before.
Joseph E (2019-08-09 09:04:30+00:00): Hi Iko IRM-ED, thank you for improving the map here in Papua!
(Maaf, saya berpikir bahwa Anda bisa bahasa Inggris, tapi kalau saya salah, tolong menjawab dan saya bisa respon dalam bahasa Indonesia)

I appreciate having more mappers at work adding the many missing roads, streets and rivers in Papua.

I noticed that you added the tag "import=yes" to some roads. This tag should only be used as a changeset tag when you import data from an outside source, like another database. If you are tracing roads from aerial imagery, don't use this tag, just set the source.

Also, I'd recommend considering using other types of highway, not usually highway=service or highway=track, for any roads that have houses or other buildings along them in rural areas. If there is a road that connects several villages, it's probably a highway=tertiary. If it's just a road through to one tiny village or a few houses, use highway=unclassified. And use highway=residential for roads with houses directly on them, like village streets.
Highway=track should be used for roads in plantations, farmland and forests that are just used for agriculture or forestry. On aerial imagery, these roads usually won't have any buildings along them and will not be the main way to access a town. They may be rather overgrown.

The tag highway=service is used for driveway, alleys, aisle in parking lots, and similar service roads within one property; usually these are private, not public roads. In remote areas there can be service roads at a mine or plantation, but they won't connect a village to another.
Sorry for the criticism. It took me a long time to figure these things out myself, and highway classification can be a little debatable sometimes. If you have no idea what type of road it is (or if its really a road, not a path for just walking and bikes), then you can always use highway=road, which lets other mappers know to add the right class later.

Have fun mapping! 
Terima kasih, 
Joseph Eisenberg
Wamena, Indonesia
Iko IRM-ED (2019-08-09 10:35:57+00:00): Hi Joseph, thanks for your suggestion.

first of all. yes that's true, tag "import=yes" is an additional tag to calculate how many roads we already mapped. because right now we under the project to mapping all Indonesian roads.

and then, after i read your recommendation about types of the highway. i agree about your recommendation, and i think our team already using that. this is our guideline https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Indonesian_Tagging_Guidelines#Roads (updated in some province). But on the progress we met some problems in Papua, we can't add roads as major road (tertiary, secondary,or primary) if there no source like government, we met many roads with long segment but looks small and narrow, this characteristic can be primary in other provinces. so the solution we add those roads as unclassified because we know it connecting some village. besides that we know road construction in Papua very massive, it can be major road the next day.

and then for tag "highway=track" I have anticipated to use it, and change to"highway=residential". when I'm doing a final check, i'm really sure roads through houses already tag as residential (but sorry if still have a mistake) because we're confused when met narrow roads but have buildings. sometimes we split that roads and change to track. our assumption that buildings are hut non-permanent, the place who people take a rest in plantation

in this case, we're not doing a survey or ground truth in Papua, because of one and the other things. we're very happy to have feedback like this. thanks a lot, 

happy mapping!
Iko Panji
Joseph E (2019-08-09 13:51:40+00:00): Terima kasih banyak atas jawaban Anda. 

I will ask about the import=yes tag on the mailing list. Perhaps there is a better alternative to using this tag on each object, such as a tag on the changeset?

Thank you for the reminder about https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Indonesian_Tagging_Guidelines#Roads - I think this needs to be updated, because it's not so clear how to determine the type of highway tag. 

Is there any active forum or mailing list right now for the HOT mappers in Indonesia, or for other Indonesian mappers, where we could discuss this? 

I know it's hard to decide when to use highway=residential, =track and =unclassified. Mappers in England, the USA and Germany argue about it all the time too. ;-)

I would personally recommend using highway=trunk for major roads like Jalan Trans-Sumatra, Jalan Trans-Sulawesi, Jalan Tran-Papua, which connect cities to each other. And I would use highway=primary for roads that connect towns to other towns or cities. Highway=secondary would be for roads that connect towns to villages (desa, dengan >100 orang), and highway=tertiary for minor roads that connect to small dusun (hamlets) and kampung. Highway=unclassified would be for roads to just a few farms or isolated houses, or connecting a hamlet to another hamlet.

This is basically how the road system works in England, but other countries like Germany and France use the highway=trunk tag in a different way. So at some point we need to discuss the best way to tag roads in Indonesia - since the government doesn't have a clear classification system, we can base it on function.

If that sound like fun, I'd love to find a good forum or "place" on the internet for this discussion with other people who map in Indonesia.

- Joseph Eisenberg
Iko IRM-ED (2019-08-12 04:06:36+00:00): hallo joseph,

maybe "import=yes" only for our project, outside that this tag not to use.

do you any suggestions for updated this?  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Indonesian_Tagging_Guidelines#Roads it's already updated and add some pictures to tell the difference every hierarchy

you can join this group https://www.facebook.com/groups/osm.id/ sometime others mappers share their problems and did some discussion

yes, I absolutely agree Jalan trans in every island using highway=trunk. But personally, for other hierarchy, I recommend using boundary. It's hard to identify using population such as >100 orang. highway=trunk trough province boundaries. highway=primary connecting city or town, trough city boundaries. Highway=secondary connecting city or town to sub-district (kecamatan), trough sub-district (kecamatan) boundaries, and also connected with primary road. highway=tertiary connecting sub-district (kecamatan) to village (kelurahan) trough village boundaries, and also connected with secondary road. highway=unclassified connecting between village, and isolated houses.

this how our internal group uses to mapping Indonesian road until now.

-iko panji rukmana
Iko IRM-ED (2019-08-12 04:11:51+00:00): highway=unclassified a classification between tertiary and residential, usually found in rural area. If it's uncertain to tag as tertiary,  it can go into unclassified. This road connects between activity centers in rural area and can be the Roads for interconnection of small settlements
Joseph E (2019-08-12 09:45:31+00:00): Terima kasih, Pak iko. Saya baru masuk grup facebook itu.

Tentang "import=yes" - if I have updated a road and checked it's location, can I remove the tag "import=yes" or should I leave it for the next few months until the project is complete?

Thank you for explaining the system you've been teaching for determining the different types of highway. That sounds like it should work quite well in islands like Java where there are many provinces and small kabupaten, and the kecematan boundaries are all mapped. However, here in Papua we have only one province for almost the whole island, and the kabupaten are huge - some are larger than Yogyakarta or Banten province, and we don't have very many roads. The kecematan boundaries are often not defined, and very few are mapped in OSM (I tried adding them in my kabupaten, Jayawijaya, but it was very hard to get good data).  
Also, there are islands like Serui, Biak, Lombok etc that are only in one province or one kabupaten, but I think they can have a highway=primary connecting two major place=town, no?. So I think mappers here, and perhaps in Kalimantan and NTT timur/barat and Maluku, should also consider what kinds of settlements are connected, especially when there is a road that stops at a village or town.

For hamlet vs village vs town, I usually count or estimate the number of houses and other large buildings. In Papua, hamlets have only 2 to 20 houses, no big church/mosque or school buildings, while a village has at least 10 houses (usually more than 20) and probably has bigger buildings like schools, tempat ibadah, kantor, etc. - and a town has a market (pasar), many shops, some big government buildings and so on, as well as hundreds of houses. This can be used to classify hamlet vs village vs town, even without good population numbers. 

I appreciate your explanation, and I'll make sure the Tagging Guidelines are updated in English to explain that option as well, especially for Java (and Sumatra? Sulawesi?) where there may be many roads in one area and it can be very helpful to think about which roads are the ones that you would take to get to the next kabupaten or the next province. 

If you or any friends have time, maybe take a look at the changes I made to the Indonesia Tagging Guidelines, please correct any mistakes I made - bahasa Indonesia bukan bahasa ibu saya, ka?
Iko IRM-ED (2019-08-13 03:37:49+00:00): Terimakash kembali Pak Joseph,

estimated our project completed in November, please don't remove tag "import=yes" maybe until the project is complete.

this is the problem while mapping islands that only one province or Kabupaten. sometimes we add as highway=tertiary if the segment too short. back again because we're don't have any source to add as primary or secondary (except provinces that we surveyed, because we already request data from the relevant government) but for this solution, we follow this website http://sigpjj.binamarga.pu.go.id/internal/iyo/page/view/?id=16 to check where the classification of the roads as primary or secondary. outside the highways on the website maybe can be tertiary. further information arteri same as primary, and kolektor same as secondary.

thanks a lot pak for the explanation about hamlet vs village vs town. this is new for me :)

I'm very happy can talk with you pak as a local mapper, because we're little bit hard to mapping in Papua. but sorry if there is any mistake we'are made, and as a local mapper kindly to change it if you know very well.
firefoxinspace (2019-07-25 10:02:46+00:00): Servus,
ausnahmsweise kann vom Grundsatz primary=Bundesstraße in Einzelfällen abgewichen werden, z.B. wenn die überregionale Verkehrsbedeutung auf eine Umgehungsstraße übergegangen ist.
Das ist in Marktheidenfeld der Fall.
LG firefoxinspace
freebeer (2019-07-29 23:44:55+00:00): hi amazon,

the driveway re-used the existing road node at the intersection.

the service drive added a new node at the same location, and ignored the existing node.

i will fix this one; just wanted to observe what actually happened before destroying the evidence in my cleanup.
gseethar (2019-08-02 12:46:15+00:00): Thanks for the fix. Please let us know if you can find a pattern.

Regards,
Ganesh
user_5359 (2019-07-25 16:20:19+00:00): Welcome to OSM! Please notice: the minimum keys for an address is addr:street and addr:housenumber! Can you add the value for the house number, please?
Michael Karazim (2019-07-28 12:01:23+00:00): There are no house numbers, unfortunately.