piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
Verdy_p (2020-01-18 00:34:48+00:00): Note that even if there are multiple comarcal delimitations in regions that still don't have their own official ione, and still use traditional comarcas (still used) and "touristic" comarcas promoted by the deputation of the provincial junta, all of them can coexist in OSM; this is just a matter of distinctive tags.
For those qualified as "boundary=administrative", this should be the regional definition according to the regional law if it exists. Others can be tagged as "boundary=traditional" or similar (with a specific case for older comarcas that are actually subcomarcas of more recent or larger traditional comarcas.
provincial/touristic comarcas may also have their distinctive tag like "boundary=touristic".
In all these case we can also add a more explicit tag like "admin_type=*" (to be chosen by the Spanish community).


And a "description=*" filed to exhibit this in human language (possibly translated in several languages, including regional languages spoken in Spain,  notably Galician, Asturian, Extremaduran, Aragonese, and Catalan with a relevant language suffix like "description:ca=*")
I do not see that as a big problem.
some comarcas may have identical definitions, from the region or the province and in that case they still qualify as administrative. The "administrative" level 7 should still be complete, even if for now it is fixed in some regions by the agrarian definition (which is also administrative but for a limited purpose but still commonly used as long as the region does not officialize its own delimitation).
Other comarcal delimitations dintinguished from the official regional one will no longer use the "administrative" type, but a different type (boundary=traditional is not convenient, we could have boundary=agrarian for them).
Verdy_p (2020-01-18 00:39:43+00:00): I know it is difficult (and the categories used in Wikipedia or Commons or in Wikidata are not making the distinction easy, as all comarcal types are mixed, except in some regions).
This is lot of work to do in several incremental steps to sort all these correctly. This changeset was one of the incremental step needed to help building these distinctions.
The next step will be to map the mancommunidad (cooperations of municipalitiies) and this is exactly similar to French intercommunalities, tagged using "boundary=local_authority, plus some distinctive "admin_type=*" for them).
Spain is not more complex than France, it just requires clarification and extensive work to sort all this.
But having only regions, provinces in Spain to group municipalities is clearly insufficient.
unodecrespos (2020-01-18 00:45:36+00:00): Dear Verdy_p, at this point nobody is discussing about tagging possibilities. If you want to do so, please open a discussion explaining your approach in the Spanish mailing list. That's how people around here like to do big changes. You will most likely get positive feedback if you make an interesting proposal, but you can't force your changes without having explained them beforehand through adequate channels (and comments to a changeset or messages to private users are not considered adequate channels).
Verdy_p (2020-01-18 01:29:08+00:00): I'm not "forcing" changes, I'm adding what is missing. I still need some tags for these, and have just used what is currently available, not changing them.
But I do agree that there are several comarcal definitions and I have never contested that. This does not mean that they cannot be added at all and distinguished. Only one comarcal division is being made for now (where there is none in OSM and they are clearly missing). We can add more and it's not at all a problem for me and should not be a problem for you. Those are already used, referenced in other collabarative sites already linked by OSM (notably Wikimedia, Commons and Wikidata where there's also lot of work to sort these as all is mixed and confused).
I'm not expecting to work alone. But there's no contestation that I do not invent anything, and that I am just filling missing gaps of information, not destroying anything.
It's quite simpelr to change some tags if we need several definitions, it's a matter of a few seconds; but restoring or rebuilding completely from scratch is a severe loss of time for everyone. The work done or to do require lot of time, desctroying it gives only negative value.
DGerveno (2020-01-18 09:56:52+00:00): Vemos desde la comunidad española que sigue con sus ediciones, sin haber recibido un visto bueno por nuestra parte. Señor Verdy, por favor, diríjase a la lista talk-es, aquí es imposible seguir sus argumentos.
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-es/2020-January/017147.html
Verdy_p (2020-01-18 11:26:20+00:00): You semm to have never seen that these were NOT the same type of relation.
You missed the distinctive tag which was not "boundary=administrative" but "boundary=administrative_fraction";

"type=boundary+admin_level=*" alone is not enough to distinguish relations (see for example the religious boundaries which also have their admin_level...)

the "_fraction" type is different; applciations that just want to see full comarcas will ,not load the fractions which are separate kind of objects, not adminsitrative, but related to correctly represent the relation and partial containment of levels 6 and 7 in Spain, where it is not exact.

These relatiosn had differnt contents, coverd distinctive areas. The names indicated there are just indicative, I could have put none at all, but it's better for editing users trying to read it, and that's why these names had disambiguation suffixes (nont intended ot be rendered on any map, and not rendered at all in fact. But still useful in statistical reports. This just proves that I was really aware that provinces do not contain full comarcas, this is alsmot the case but not everywhere. There was no error at all, these are "building blocks" useful for data checkin, check unexpected overlaps or incompleteness, and also make relations easier to interpret while still permitting a containment: each "fraction" have two parents not just one, and not the same two parents (they stilll form a graph as a tree with common branches and a common ancestor, but the graph remains acyclic).
sanchi (2020-01-18 11:59:40+00:00): "boundary=administrative_fraction" solo existen 19 en Todo el mundo y todas creadas por ti. No lo he visto tampoco documentado en la wiki. Lo veo etiquetado inventado que es innecesario
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/boundary=administrative_fraction
Volvemos a pedirte que te comuniques en la lista para dar tus puntos de vista. Como tú has dicho este no es el medio adecuado para solucionar esto.
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-es/2020-January/017147.html
skquinn (2020-04-28 10:35:28+00:00): Please add service roads in different directions as separate ways. When the same highway=* tagged way loops back on itself, JOSM's validator and other QA tools flag this as bad data.
sabodige (2020-05-04 07:22:11+00:00): Hi skquinn, Thanks for looking into my edits. I was going through your comments and trying to understand the mistake so it will not be repeated by me in future. Can you explain me more on what is the mistake in this edit. Did I add any wrong information or create any road connectivity issue? Or is JOSM or QA tools detecting this edit as error even though there is no road connectivity issue? This information will help me better to understand the actual error and learn from it.
user_5359 (2020-01-16 14:29:26+00:00): Welcome to OSM! I have delete your SEO SPAM (mostly no standard keys, no verifiable data or not positive verifiable address data). If this is an error, you can report it here, then we will be happy to help restore the data. For the most information in the description we have own keys. Please have look on the website http://wiki.openstreetmap.org.
maraf24 (2020-01-18 12:02:03+00:00): https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pl:Komentarze_zestawu_zmian
user_5359 (2020-01-16 14:12:58+00:00): Welcome to OSM! I have delete your SEO SPAM (mostly no standard keys, no verifiable data or not positive verifiable address data). If this is an error, you can report it here, then we will be happy to help restore the data. For the most information in the description we have own keys. Please have look on the website http://wiki.openstreetmap.org.
Vinber (2020-01-16 17:10:35+00:00): Bonjour et bienvenu,
merci pour vos contributions mais quelques questions :

- vous semblez avoir nommé une piscine https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/763654332#map=19/44.63883/-1.15237&layers=N, si c'est une donnée personnelle c'est interdit par la loi).
- white moustache, est-ce sérieux et bien un changement,
- Lucia, que veut dire building=sa_data_yaye
- ...
- la rue zeebi ???

Vous avez créé votre compte ce matin, en même temps à priori que 5 personnes, je suppose que cela fait partie de votre cours de SNT.

Pourriez vous transmettre à votre enseignant-e ce lien svp : https://eduscol.education.fr/histoire-geographie/actualites/actualites/article/iopenstreetmapi-en-sciences-numeriques-et-technologie.html

Par avance merci
jpol (2021-06-05 11:33:16+00:00): W tej edycji wydarzyło się coś dziwnego. To żadne przejście, tylko budynek, na dodatek nadal stoi. Choć fakt, że sklepu to w nim już od lat chyba nie ma.
forestus (2021-06-05 12:16:09+00:00): Cześć, popraw zatem wedle stanu obecnego. Pozdrawiam!
Vinber (2020-01-16 17:11:29+00:00): Bonjour et bienvenu,
merci pour vos contributions.

Si le camping est détruit, vous pouvez retiré totalement l'information.

Vous avez créé votre compte ce matin, en même temps à priori que 5 personnes, je suppose que cela fait partie de votre cours de SNT.

Pourriez vous transmettre à votre enseignant-e ce lien svp : https://eduscol.education.fr/histoire-geographie/actualites/actualites/article/iopenstreetmapi-en-sciences-numeriques-et-technologie.html

Par avance merci
Vinber (2020-01-16 17:12:06+00:00): Bonjour et bienvenu,
merci pour vos contributions.

Vous avez créé votre compte ce matin, en même temps à priori que 5 personnes, je suppose que cela fait partie de votre cours de SNT.

Pourriez vous transmettre à votre enseignant-e ce lien svp : https://eduscol.education.fr/histoire-geographie/actualites/actualites/article/iopenstreetmapi-en-sciences-numeriques-et-technologie.html

Par avance merci
Vinber (2020-01-16 17:12:50+00:00): Bonjour et bienvenu,
merci pour vos contributions.

Dans votre commentaire n'hésitez pas à être plus précise, cela ne permet pas de comprendre ce que vous avez fait !

Vous avez créé votre compte ce matin, en même temps à priori que 5 personnes, je suppose que cela fait partie de votre cours de SNT.

Pourriez vous transmettre à votre enseignant-e ce lien svp : https://eduscol.education.fr/histoire-geographie/actualites/actualites/article/iopenstreetmapi-en-sciences-numeriques-et-technologie.html

Par avance merci
Blueberry (2020-01-16 14:43:03+00:00): Bonjour Lola et bienvenue dans le projet OpenStreetMap. Heureux que tu aies envie de participer.
Une question : tu as supprimé "l'allée des Pins", c'est volontaire, la rue a été supprimée ? 
Bonne suite :)
Vinber (2020-01-16 17:13:44+00:00): Je me permets d'ajouter un point :
Vous avez créé votre compte ce matin, en même temps à priori que 5 personnes, je suppose que cela fait partie de votre cours de SNT.

Dans la perspective que c'est bien le cas, pourriez vous transmettre à votre enseignant-e ce lien svp : https://eduscol.education.fr/histoire-geographie/actualites/actualites/article/iopenstreetmapi-en-sciences-numeriques-et-technologie.html

Par avance merci
Supaplex (2020-02-18 05:08:18+00:00): 抱歉，您把個人主觀的資訊發布到公眾使用的開放街圖資料庫中了！涉及個人主觀而且不是地理上存在的資訊並不適合加到開放街圖當中。 如果您想要紀錄某個私人的地點，請使用「加入書籤」功能，而非「新增一個地點」。「新增一個地點」會直接反饋到公開圖資中。 http://Maps.Me App 採用開放街圖的地理資料，由社群而非商業公司建置的地理資料庫。http://Maps.me 與開放街圖合作，讓地圖使用者可以回饋最新的路況與地點資料到開放街圖社群，在下一次更新的時候，就會自動發布到所有人的手機系統上。 以下是相關的參考資料，歡迎隨時指教與提問。 編輯須知 台灣的標示依循準則可參考 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Taiwan 常見的圖徵標示方式可參考 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Zh-hant:Map_Features 給Pokemon Go玩家的建議：https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tips_for_new_(Pokemon_Go)_mappers 組織性編輯指南：https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines 台灣社群網站 台灣 OpenStreetMap 網站 https://osm.tw/ 臉書粉絲頁OpenStreetMap台灣 https://www.facebook.com/openstreetmaptaiwan/ 台灣社群Facebook社團 https://www.facebook.com/groups/OpenStreetMap.TW/ 郵件論壇 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tw Telegram OpenStreetMap Taiwan https://t.me/joinchat/Aqu2IgnTuIidMfREdNmomQ Telegram OpenStreetMap Asia https://t.me/OpenStreetMapAsia Slack https://osm-tw.signup.team/ Happy Mapping!
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dval (2020-06-29 16:10:54+00:00): Hi, Александр Иутин! 1) Описывать пакет правок общим словосочетанием "Внес правки" - это то же самое, что ничего. Правильнее будет описать кратко место, что сделано. 2) Практика рисования областей по линиям дорог не кажется мне полезной. После этого трудно что-либо разобрать в нарисованном. Жилую зону лучше рисовать по ее границе, а не по центру дороги. Такое рисование приводит к тому, что возникают окончания дорог на границе области, чего быть не может и не должно. Пример: улица Фестивальная слева. Всего таких случаев 5 в этом районе города. Прошу вас не делать подобного впредь, поскольку исправлять такие вещи требует времени, которое могло бы быть потрачено на что-то полезное.
atomwaffen (2020-01-16 16:37:42+00:00): Останови вандализм!
PT-53 (2020-01-16 11:22:43+00:00): Hallo Pete909,
geht der Park
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/741606925
wirklich teilweise durch Gebäude hindurch ?
Fragende Grüße
PT-53 (2020-01-26 08:18:46+00:00): Hallo Pete909, 
schaust Du Dir das nochmal an?
Fragende Grüße
PT-53 (2020-02-16 12:53:28+00:00): erledigt
Vinber (2020-01-16 17:16:13+00:00): Bonjour et bienvenue dans le projet OpenStreetMap,

merci pour vos contributions !

Vous semblez cependant confondre le nom avec une description, pourriez vous vous référer à cette page pour approfondir : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Bonnes_pratiques#N.27utilisez_pas_de_tag_name_pour_d.C3.A9crire_des_choses.

Ou n'hésitez pas à poser des questions !
Bonne cartographie
nevw (2020-01-16 12:27:46+00:00): Please by aware that you are editing a public map. I reverted this changeset which changed a residential area to a park.
nevw (2020-01-16 13:59:41+00:00): Bakers Creek Community Hall added and surrounds mapped as park with playground after advice from local mapper.
TuanIfan (2020-01-17 01:50:28+00:00): Khu đất Đồng Sênh khá phức tạp vì một phần đã bị giải tỏa (phía Đông, chỗ đường băng sân bay chỉ xuống), còn phần kia đã bị quây lại. E là đánh dấu farmland không ổn lắm.
hoangvietanh (2020-01-17 04:19:12+00:00): Đang tìm cách sửa đây :-)
iWowik (2020-01-25 13:40:11+00:00): Рад вас приветствовать в проекте, я заметил, что вы рисуете домики, к тому же нарушаете порядок наименования улиц (не пишете слово улица), а также пишете номера домов в тег названия

Скажите пожалуйста, где вы берете адреса для домиков?
Обычно их не просто найти.
nevw (2020-01-16 12:28:03+00:00): Please by aware that you are editing a public map. I reverted this changeset which changed a residential area to a park.
Lancasters (2020-01-16 11:57:00+00:00): Про Фильку наврал - она глубже тоннеля метро
BCNorwich (2020-01-16 13:25:21+00:00): Hi, Welcome to OpenStreetMap.
The tag "maxspeed:type=??? describes how a speed limit has been set into force" it does not state what the max speed is so is not much use on it's own. Please see :- https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed:type

It's better to use tags :- maxspeed=?? mph + maxspeed:type=GB:nsl_single + source:maxspeed=???  Please see :- https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed

Regards Bernard.
BCNorwich (2020-01-20 19:56:16+00:00): Hi can you say if it's 20 or 30 mph on these two roads? Thanks.
5m4u9 (2020-01-17 09:11:20+00:00): hola, estas añadiendo información privada al mapa, ha sido retirado del mapa
trigpoint (2020-01-23 17:07:29+00:00): Hi, what of the source of the names you have added? You cannot have got them from bing aerial imagery.
Cheers Phil
Cheeto (2020-01-24 20:57:12+00:00): I've been there for work reasons a few months ago. I'm sorry if there should be errors in my notes.
trigpoint (2020-01-25 11:40:52+00:00): Thank you. It was the fact you added names which can only be added from a survey and yhe global spread of such changesets that made me suspicious.

More meaningful comments as to sources and changeset comments that reflect what you were adding would be very useful.

Cheers Phil
Jordi MF (2020-01-18 15:54:57+00:00): Hola,

La etiqueta landuse=residential no es adecuada para delimitar las manzanas. La comunidad española decidió que esta etiqueta debe encuadrar todo el área residencial del pueblo/ciudad. En lugar de mapear las manzanas como lo has hecho, deberías mapear cada uno de los edificios existentes. Para ello, es mejor utilizar la capa del Catastro.

Saludos.
mbethke (2020-01-17 05:06:51+00:00): Hi,
you mapped that hospital within another hospital. Is that the name of a specific clinic building?
ruporrr (2020-01-17 06:42:44+00:00): Hello!  There are two hospitals in this territory, which have different names and different buildings.
mbethke (2020-01-19 05:29:12+00:00): OK, thanks! I guess someone should make a separate area for that at some point but for now I'll just add the buildings :)

cheers,
Matthias
MapMakerGal (2020-01-16 15:48:40+00:00): This madness of changes is due to a school project on OSM. Thanks for erasing everything, because it was constantly repeated data...
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Jordi MF (2020-01-16 22:25:57+00:00): Hola,

Viendo que has pedido una revisión, lo he revisado. La urbanización habría que etiquetarla como landuse=residential + name=*. Consulta la wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Caracter%C3%ADsticas_que_generan_dudas_en_Espa%C3%B1a#U

Dejo que lo corrijas tú mismo. Saludos!
Jean-Marc Larribe (2020-01-18 09:17:54+00:00): Les lieux-dit sur Saint-Vincent-de-Tyrosse Castets, Castelnau,Laste 
apparaissent à peine sur la carte aprrès que j'ai ajouté leur nom
Andrea Musuruane (2020-01-16 16:19:33+00:00): Ciao e benvenuto su OSM. Per favore, non inserire i nomi degli esercizi commerciali tutti in maiuscolo. Grazie, Andrea
Andrea Musuruane (2020-01-16 16:20:12+00:00): Il commento al changeset dovrebbe essere significativo. MSPPSP non vuol dire nulla.
viloan (2020-01-16 12:24:05+00:00): Bem-vindo(a) ao OpenStreetMap e parabéns pela sua primeira edição! :-)

Temos um portal brasileiro sobre o OpenStreetMap, com várias informações úteis em https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brasil

Enquanto você está se acostumando com o OpenStreetMap, é recomendado que sempre pergunte aos usuários mais experientes antes de remover ou modificar objetos do mapa, especialmente aqueles que são aparentemente "estranhos" ou "fora do lugar".

Além disso, pedimos que não copie dados de mapas proprietários (como nomes de ruas do Google Maps, por exemplo) e que mapeie apenas o que existe na realidade.

Se você está mapeando por causa do Pokémon, dê uma olhada em https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/12/01/dicas-para-novos-mapeadores-pokemon-go/?lang=pt-pt
Se você está mapeando por causa do jogo do Harry Potter, as dicas e explicações na página anterior também são úteis para você.

Se tiver qualquer tipo de dúvida você pode entrar em contato com a comunidade brasileira através de algum dos canais disponíveis em https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt:Contact
O canal "Comunidade" do Telegram costuma ser o mais movimentado.

Abraço e boa diversão com suas edições!
trigpoint (2020-01-17 15:27:14+00:00): Hi
I am not sure you can make the jump from electrified=yes to power_supply=yes without a survey to check what the mapper actually meant. It could mean that there is electricity for lighting. It would be unusual to provide mains power to a socket in a train shelter as these are not usually weatherproof.
I know that electrified is an odd tag, but rather than blindly fix you could maybe add a note so that a passing mapper can survey and check or simply ask the original mapper what they meant.
Odd tags can indicate other issues, blindly fixing them based on the wiki makes these issues harder to spot.
Cheer Phil
pangoSE (2020-01-17 15:45:17+00:00): Sorry, then I guess we should revert this. Can you do that?
Maybe add a fixme afterwards?
pangoSE (2020-01-17 15:46:23+00:00): maybe lit=yes is more appropriate if that was what was meant.
trigpoint (2020-01-17 15:54:28+00:00): 
Fixmes tend to go unnoticed unless someone edits the node.
I have added a note and asked the mapper who added the tag.
I will revert this as a meaningless tag is less damaging than a wrong one.

Cheers Phil
A67-A67 (2020-01-16 12:45:24+00:00): Hallo Mathijs92,
Op de plekken waar er fysieke uitwisseling plaats kan vinden tussen busbaan/strook en weg, dus zonder tussenberm, is er geen sprake van een busbaan maar van een busstrook. Die brengen we niet als aparte weg in kaart, maar d.m.v. tags op de weg zelf: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/427303825 Het gaat om de tags access:lanes:backward=yes|no en psv:lanes:backward=no|yes. De busstrook was dus al in kaart gebracht.
A67-A67 (2020-01-16 12:50:51+00:00): Ik zie dat je het alweer hersteld hebt. Bedankt en veel plezier met verder mappen!
Mathijs92 (2020-01-16 12:51:06+00:00): Inderdaad, ik heb deze wijziging ongedaan gemaakt
Commodoortje (2020-01-17 16:58:44+00:00): Bewaar de geschiedenis!
Misschien wist je het niet, maar je hebt eerst de weg verwijderd en daarna een nieuwe weg aangebracht. Het gevolg is dat de historie van de (oude) weg verloren is gegaan.
Kijk even op onderstaande link waar de goede gewoontes zijn vastgelegd.
Alvast dank.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NL:Good_practice#Bewaar_de_geschiedenis
markjowen (2020-01-17 18:58:47+00:00): Ik heb wel de weg gesnipperd, maar wist niet dat ik het verwijdeerd had. Ik volgde gewoon instructies as per een van de OSM moderators: "You'll need to sign up for an edit account, then the way with a private section will need splitting where it starts and stops being private (in the default editor, click the way you want to split, then double-click to add a node where you want to split it, then right-click the node and select the scissors to split the way). Once you've split the way on both sides of the private area, click the way that is private and scroll down to change Allowed Access from All=yes to All=private. Save your changes and at some point other websites will get the update."

Maar - hopelijk heb ik niet te veel schade veroorzaakt. Excuses
Commodoortje (2020-01-17 20:24:36+00:00): Nee, is niet erg, zeker niet als goedwillende nieuwe mapper. 
Ga vooral door met het verbeteren van OpenStreetMap.
Toch wilde ik je de info geven van de good practice.
Het is wel de vraag of het stuk als private gekenmerkt zou moeten worden.
Maar in deze discussie op het forum wil ik me niet mengen, ze hebben overigens wel gelijk ik de argumentatie.
Ook begrijp ik jouw redenatie.
Even hypothetisch in een ander voorbeeld.
Een landgoedeigenaar maakt wellicht gebruik van de "Natuurschoonwet" waar gebruik gemaakt wordt van fiscale voordelen. Als dit zo is, zal hij ook de lasten moeten dragen door het pad open te stellen voor publiek openstellen, onder de welbekende voorwaarden.
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natuurschoonwet
Ik weet niet of dit de waarheid is.
Mocht de eigenaar hier geen gebruik van maken dient hij het af te zetten met een hek, en evt een art. 461 bordje te plaatsen.
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eigen_weg
markjowen (2020-01-17 21:13:40+00:00): Bedankt...Ik weet niet waarom de Gemeente hiermee niets doen, maar weet wel dat die honden die hij heeft zijn iets meer effectief dan een hek... :O)
Commodoortje (2020-01-17 21:47:34+00:00): Er zijn legio voorbeelden dat de gemeente niets doet. Dit zou de rechter moeten uitspreken, maar dan moet er eerst een proces aangespannen worden door de gemeente of een andere partij.
Dit is ook zo'n voorbeeld:
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=711785#p711785
sykul (2020-01-17 01:04:02+00:00): Hi, this driveway should probably be connected to the road.