stevea (2019-07-02 18:46:29+00:00): (And yet, Adam DID do "this crap" with OSM, even as he simultaneously says "I'm not.")  It is easy to be confused by Adam's "say one thing, do another" behavior.  I have now seen it so often and so persistently by him that to me, it seems deliberate on his part, or if it isn't it deliberate, it doesn't appear it is something he is able to control.  Either way, "say one thing, then do another" is behavior OSM shouldn't tolerate.  Especially when coupled with vulgarities and inflammatory language (as in Adam's post above).

Disagreeing with edits, or calling somebody out when they say they won't do something, (then they do exactly the opposite), isn't "going off," (more exaggeration on Adam's part) it is being reasonable about somebody who does not appear to be able to abide by the tenets of OSM:  namely, asking somebody not to do something he said he wouldn't do after he (repeatedly) uninvited himself from participation.  This "what I can't seem to do in the wiki I'll do by tracking Steve's edits and botch them with still-under-construction-consensus tagging — regardless that the greater community continues to discuss these issues."  That is not being simply "selfish" with "my edits," that is being a bad actor in a community where we SHARE the good development of a map database.  It is that plain, it is that simple.  The facts speak for themselves.  Running away from the bright light of truth being shined in Adam's direction might have worked for a time, but the community sees Adam for what he is.

OSM is an OPEN project.  Any contributor who has an expectation to "have their edits left alone" is participating in the wrong project.  OSM is "map well" and standing by (perhaps being a bit proud of) your contributions.  OSM is NOT about making every edit/subject/topic/comment/wiki post an "I'm right, you're wrong" contest, as is Adam's habit.

I have never threatened Adam; this is another slanderous untruth on his part.  I have personally and directly warned Adam (as I should) not to slander me with hyperbole in his remarks (which he just did by saying I threatened him — it is plain for all to see that I haven't).  His remarks often directly contradict what I (and even he himself) have recently said, even in the same thread, so it is easy to prove that Adam is the one who exaggerates, stretching to the breaking point the words of others so far out of context that they bend and break as yet another untruth told by Adam.  Or even slander:  "a false statement damaging to a person's reputation."  I (and any reasonable person would) tire of Adam's repeated (and provably so) slanderous exaggerations.  That isn't a threat, that is simply saying what happened:  should you have the buckets of patience required to follow Adam's repeated, sad acts, you can easily make that determination for yourself, dear reader.

With patience and a polite tone, I will continue to "call out" Adam's less-than-positive-contributions to OSM as I see them, as I should, as any other contributor to the project should.  Eventually, after months and years of Adam's repeated abusive, impolite, harshly critical and seldom constructive, insulting, self-contradictory behavior to and at (almost never "with") me and other well-meaning volunteers in this project, the greater OSM community more and more clearly sees Adam for what he is:  a deeply disruptive influence here.  While he might make positive contributions (drawing dirt tracks and marking fence lines), he has effectively written himself out of meaningful contributions with regard to parks, park:type and public lands, especially as the consensus in those topic is fragile and continues to emerge.  Simply put, Adam can't make or have constructive dialog about these topics (he has proven that over and over again — see park:type:Talk).  So, how can he be expected to make good map edits about them?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with calling out the bad (abusive, insulting, inflammatory, slanderous...) acts of others in this project, especially as I and others strive mightily to do so factually, while maintaining a polite tone and proper decorum as we do so.  (Though, truly, I distinctly TIRE of it).  I apologize to the greater community that somebody has to keep doing this over and over again.  On the bright side, there are longer-term solutions to bad actors and disruptive influences in OSM.