piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
user_11418917 (2021-09-25 23:02:48+00:00): Dear Jeslop, uploading a 10,000 nodes as a one changeset is not an evidence of an import, for example if I started mapping and doing changes in JOSM and save the file and after I finish my whole work upload it, then it will be probably big, will this be considered an import? definitely not, and as they said it's their own work.     
If someone or some people decide to work outside of their cities they don't need an improval or something! if they wanted to start mapping all buildings around Iraq they can, there is no law that says you can't map more than city and if you do you need to contact someone and obey!             
    
About the people who you said reported you previously said, "We have been in contact with members of the Iraqi community and they believe that the import" I can guarantee you 100% these people are not even Iraqi if there is really any people and I challenge you to prove it since all of the Iraqis in the Iraqi osm community are super positive for this project.        
If there was errors in their works fix the error, or if it's too big just delete every single building with error but not the whole data!      
And about Sargon, he deleted his account cause he felt their work are not appropriated, which is huge disrespect for the team. A block in this way and as I read your way in the message block was very harsh, your message was not to a block "to get an answer." your message clearly said to him stop, don't continue and your work will be deleted, huge disrespectful in my opinion, thats why 1/3 of the team left without even discussing. In the middle east this type of threatening is not well received.           
  Regards.
jeslop (2021-09-27 11:22:39+00:00): Dear lockdownguy. This is all about a massive import: not legal because it not follow the guidelines of the OSM community, you can not doing what you want in behalf of an iraqi community (I would be grateful if you could tell me where I can follow the discussion process of the data import in the iraqi community).

Uploading 10,000 nodes is not an import for you, maybe two millions in one month is? Start mapping buildings around Iraq or elsewhere is ok, no one claims for this. But if you import millions of buildings in one week, then it’s not ok. You don’t want to understand that massive import of data with no clear origin is not ok and it have a guidelines, that the user not follow. He and you talks in name of a group, but I only see one user.  

But facts are sacred:
- At least two users complaints for a massive import
- The Data Working Group contact with the author of the massive import 
- To assure he answer the questions a zero hour block is issued (he only have to answer and block vanished)
- He delete his account.

To make things even worse you have reverted the work of Data Working Group on your own, we have not seen a single comment against the reversion from any user other than you. OSM is a community and you have to respect the decisions of the community not only your very own interests.

Best Regards.

Jesús López
OpenStreetMap Foundation
Data Working Group
SomeoneElse (2021-09-27 14:29:45+00:00): >  uploading a 10,000 nodes as a one changeset is not an evidence of an import, 

For the avoidance of doubt, uploading 10,000 nodes in one changeset is either evidence of an import or a _very_ broken working procedure that is likely to have the same problems (e.g. lack of conflation) as an undiscussed import.
jeslop (2021-09-27 15:57:55+00:00): Hello lockdownguy. I'm not going to continue this discussion,  I think all points of view are already sufficiently debated. 

I have read the posts in the Iraqi community, recently created (https://t.me/OSM_Iraq), outside of the usual OSM procedures as well, but it is your community. What I have read (not many posts on it) does not convince me that there has been a discussion about importing the buildings. 

You just tell them your intention to import all the buildings from Iraq without giving any information neither of the source of the buildings nor respecting the correct procedures of massive imports as is the case. 

I suggest you a look at the proposal of importing buildings in Spain (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Spanish_Cadastre/Buildings_Import) or those of Sonoma County in the United States (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Sonoma_County_Building_and_Address_Import) or other types such as those of Saudi Arabia (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabia/Admin_Boundaries_of_Regions_and_Governorates_Import) or Laos (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/Laos/RoadsRiversBoundaries) to have a panoramic on how to do an correct importation.

You have to convince yourself that you can't just do things as you want, OSM is a global community and a global project in which we are all involved.

Nobody is against importing all the buildings from Iraq, we just want the import to be done correctly and in accordance with the rules that we have all created together so that we can all follow them. If you want to import all the buildings from Iraq, go ahead and do it, start again, but follow the procedures: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines

If you think I have been disrespectful on any occasion, it was not my intention. But the Data Working Group is here to prevent this kind of behaviour and will continue to do so.

Best regards.

Jesús López
OpenStreetMap Foundation
Data Working Group
SomeoneElse (2021-09-27 17:25:56+00:00): @lockdownguy You yourself have been asked over and over again what the source is for this data is (by me, in response to the DWG ticket that you raised  - Ticket#2021092510000174).  
So far you have refused to provide a source, giving only meaningless answers similar to "This is not an import, this is thier work as they draw in a big file".  Please - answer the question - what is the source of the data?  Without an answer we'll have to remove it from OSM as we've no idea whether the data source is compatible with OSM's licence.
Best Regards,
Andy Townsend, also from OSM's Data Working Group.
user_11418917 (2021-09-27 17:38:35+00:00): Dear Andy,              
Please right all of your questions and I'll forward it to one of the members that I'm talking too.            
Just for clarification,                  
You want these questions below answered nothing more? if there is any more please add it in clear language so it's easy  English to translate.                   
1- What is the editor or program you were using drawing these shapes?              
2- What Sat images you used as a layer to draw above it?                            
3- Would you come back if the DWG did not stop you unless there is errors in the buildings?              
4- What is the time frame to finish your work?                     
5- Give us a basic information about the team?                            
6- What motivated you to such large project?                            
7- What is your future plans in OSM after the buildings project?                    
Please add your questions if there is any, or let me know that these questions are enough, and allow be 1-2 days max to get you the needed responses.                      
Regards.
user_11418917 (2021-09-27 17:38:53+00:00): *write
SomeoneElse (2021-09-27 17:50:24+00:00): Most of those questions that you have written above bear no resemblance to any that I have asked you.

What I asked you to do was quite simple - follow https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines .  It appears that whoever is doing this work has stopped before line 1 of "prerequisites" as they have clearly failed to "Gain familiarity with the basics of OpenStreetMap, including editing, such as adding details of your neighbourhood."

If they follow that they'll discuss the source used with the wider OSM community, and discuss the source associated with whatever imagery or other sources that they are using.

Given the errors in the re-imported data, we'll likely need to remove this again so please, before any more adding to OSM, ensure that whoever is doing this work follows the procedure properly next time.
user_11418917 (2021-09-27 18:17:12+00:00): Dear Andy,             
You said "what is the source of the data? Without an answer we'll have to remove it"            
I extracted 7 questions from your question to ask them and get more answers that we need. You keep referring to the import procedure, but we don't have the answers yet! Maybe it was drawn in JOSM, in tis way it dosn't have to follow the import procedures.                
Every mapper in OSM started with error, there is no one, not a single mapper have started here without any error. We here are community, if I saw this team done error, I or any other mapper can fix, or by time when the team get more experience  can fix what they worked on. Me as a mapper in Iraq who always uses overpass and osmcha to see errors and mistakes I fixed thousands and thousands of errors done by mappers who are beginners, there is nothing wrong with this, and there is nothing holding against beginner mappers to go on a big scale mapping, this is open community who anyone can add maps.            
At the end, if you have nothing to add to the 7 question I prepared please say so i forward it to the team to get answers.         
Regards.
SomeoneElse (2021-09-27 18:23:03+00:00): To be clear - You questions do not reflect what I an asking the to do.
I am asking them to follow a _process_ as documented at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines .  Do that, and they will need to ask questions of the rest of the OSM cmmunity and we will help.
SomeoneElse (2021-09-27 18:26:25+00:00): (s/the/them in first sentence and s/cmmunity/community later - apologies)
user_11418917 (2021-09-27 18:50:16+00:00): Dear Andy,             
I really don't know why you are not understanding what I'm saying, If the team did draw it manually in JOSM, saved and reopen the file and continue working and save... until they finish an area and upload. This is not considered as an import. unless we ask the team these questions you can't assume or say it's an import. From what I see in osm, the changesets they done have the sources as "Bing; OpenStreetMap Carto (Standard)" and some have Maxar too.          
If the team draw it in JOSM and use these satellite images as sources that mean it do not go against any of the rules, the licenses should be ok since it's just mapping like any other mappers, and the import procedure since it will be considered  not an import.                  
Regards.
SomeoneElse (2021-09-27 18:56:37+00:00): re the alleged source of Bing  - it doesn't look like it to me.  See https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/111064067 .
user_11418917 (2021-09-27 19:22:05+00:00): Dear Andy,      
You know that Bing images are slightly misaligned? open josm and use bing in iraq and see the Warning.         
For the buildings you said  I can see it like this:      https://i.snipboard.io/hyHxq3.jpg       the thing under it is some sort of a roof I believe judging from the shades. so the main building is square and the roof thing is extended maybe a car shades etc.. I also see other buildings drawn in a simplify way. Others are copy and paste, this is how they managed to get those numbers in a small amount of time.          
Regards.
SomeoneElse (2021-09-27 19:34:38+00:00): If the quality of this data is so poor that the shape, size and even the number of buildings is wrong, then it needs to be removed.
It's much easier to add correct data to OSM if you don't have to remove poor-quality data first.
OSM data is always a process of iteration - but this isn't a first iterative step - it's dumping 1000s of poor-quality objects in OSM that don't correspond to actual buildings.
user_11418917 (2021-09-27 19:47:20+00:00): Dear Andy,        
If you're talking about the buildings I referred in the screenshot I provided, please take a look at the road too, the road which was already excited before is also misaligned and not centered etc.. this is caused because the satellite images are not all aligned the same there is at least 4 sat images for Iraq and if we want all the buildings to match a satellite image then we need to remove the other options so others won't add misaligned ways. these edits have the shapes right, size right for almost all of the buildings. Removing this is considered removing valid data which goes against OSM rules.           
If you still want to remove this data and keep finding excuses to remove them, I will leave OSM with the Iraqi community because we will not want to be in a "community" that do these things, and I'll have to raise a complaint to the OSMF board of directors.           
Regards.
Mateusz Konieczny (2021-09-27 20:08:54+00:00): @lockdownguy Are you sure that it is human-made data? And not something automatically generated?

Do you have some relationship with Development Monitors LLC? Is it in any way related to project mentioned in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Microgrants/Microgrants_2020/Proposal/Detected_Features_Project ?
user_11418917 (2021-09-27 20:17:29+00:00): Dear Mateusz Konieczny,     
Yes, absolutely human made for example see the doms and the big buildings there is no way a machine can draw these with the poor satellite images. I believe Esri have something that can do this and they did mapping buildings for the Kuwaiti government and that data is far different looking style from this, this is on top that I have contacted the team personally and they did they draw it manually and some buildings were just copy and past if for example the residential block have similar sized and shaped buildings.               
And about that project what is it about? never heard of at all. what is it about like a bounty thing? like getting paid for edits? I really busy have no time to read anything.       
Regards.
eggie (2021-09-25 05:20:22+00:00): Dag bijenboel.. Alle begin is moeilijk..

Beter geen wegen vastmaken aan de vlakken landuse.

Je kunt het voorkomen door de linker alttoets te gebuiken tijdens intekenen.
Hioer kun je dat zien wat je hebt gedaan.. Je edits
https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=111668724
MVG
eggie
eggie (2021-09-25 05:25:21+00:00): Het pad ligt weer los..
literan (2021-09-25 12:00:36+00:00): газон надо рисовать полигоном ,и ставить тег газона.

также, не надо менять тег crossing=uncontrolled на пешеходных переходах на crossing=uncontrolled;marked

тег marked ничего не означает в России (у нас все переходы маркированы, в отличие от Британии и США - и светофорные, и нерегулируемые), а через запятую этот тег ничего не значит вдвойне (это какая-то странная конструкция, которую добавляет редактор iD, о котором хороших слов у меня нет)

верну как было
literan (2021-09-25 12:02:17+00:00): почитатйе, пожалуйста, вики, как правильно мапить пешеходные переходы - там даже картинка наглядная есть с тегами

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Key:crossing
seewäldler (2021-09-26 14:00:48+00:00): Hallo fabian80
Hier ein ähnlicher Kommentar wie zu changeset #111669201. Diese Straßenstücke hier sind meist zweispurig, nur mit einer gestrichelten Mittellinie markiert, damit fehlt ein zwingendes Merkmal für ein highway=trunk. Ich glaube ein Komplettrevert wäre am leichtesten und sinnvollsten.
seewäldler (2021-09-26 14:11:48+00:00): Auch die maxspeed Angaben stimmen nicht, z.B. way 245050715 ist vor Ort auf 60 begrenzt und sogar mit Radarfalle überwacht. Im Riedleparktunnel herrscht jetzt auch maxspeed Durcheinander. Fahrtrichtung Osten ist auf 60 begrenzt, Fahrtrichtung Westen meist auf 80, bei Feuerwehreinsatz aber auf 60, also maxspeed=signals. Dein pauschales 80 passt hier nicht.
puma515 (2021-09-24 22:51:14+00:00): betrieb alle andren sind nurnoch wohngebäude zum teil abgerissen, gastwitschaft gibt es nicht mehr, gebäude werden morgen überarbeitet
seewäldler (2021-09-26 08:09:53+00:00): Hallo fabian80
Das Stück der B31, das du hier als trunk markiert hast, warum glaubst du daß diese Einstufung passt? Die Beschreibung im Wiki für trunk passt nämlich gar nicht, hier kann überholt werden, eine Ampelkreuzung ist da, das schließt doch trunk definitiv aus?
mueschel (2021-10-03 09:09:46+00:00): Hi,
welcome to OSM!

The keys "investitor" and "learnica" are not used in any other place. What do they mean?
Please use only tags that are described in the OSM Wiki or are available in the presets of your editor.
This is necessary to make sure that every other user can understand the data.
David122122122 (2021-10-04 09:06:05+00:00): Investitor is a (investor), and learnica is a (foundry)
ivanbranco (2021-11-10 20:08:49+00:00): Sorry, English isn't my first language, but if the meaning of the investitor=* tag is to add the name of the investor, why using "investitor=*" instead of "investor=*"? Also what's the meaning of "learnica"? As I said, english is not my first language, but I never heard that word. Maybe you could use "foundry=*" itself instead or something similar?
Luzandro (2021-09-25 05:09:37+00:00): Hallo,

ich nehme an der Name "Weilburgspielplatz" ist dann auch falsch, falls der Spielplatz überhaupt einen Namen hat
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/851496757
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obst96 (2021-09-25 01:59:02+00:00): https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Good_practice

Mappe keine vorübergehenden Ereignisse und Objekte temporärer Natur
Unsere Kartendaten werden von unzähligen Leuten heruntergeladen und dann wochen- oder monatelang offline auf verschiedensten Geräten verwendet. Damit OpenStreetMap-Daten sinnvoll offline verwendet werden können, sollte man erwarten, dass das Objekt in den nächsten paar Wochen nicht in der Realität verändert wird, wenn du es mappst. Bestimmte Ereignisse, die regelmäßig stattfinden (z.B. ein Wochenmarkt) können erfasst werden, wenn spezielle Tags verwendet werden.
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eggie (2021-09-25 05:14:33+00:00): Hier heb je de surface= asphalt weer verwijderd.
Je zou dan bij twijfel paved of unpaved kunnen gebruiken... of het zo laten.
De routers zien dit soort wegen als paved per default.
https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=111669657
gr eggie
Frans S (2021-09-25 08:37:54+00:00): Thanks for your contribution to this project. 
Reviewed by a validator at random or as requested. 
Please pay attention on these points. 
All buildings here  are rectangular. Square them all

FYI Please view this video about common New mappers Mistakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs5wX592E1o&amp;t=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltn1VOiq5_0

Explanation can be found on this document what  might be helpful to improve your mapping skills
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Swwz-ZwM3_YOstqstsmCg1-lNAPbnMLpi1Al-h-2UOQ/edit
Best regards and keep mapping !
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DressyPear4 (2021-09-25 16:50:11+00:00): Olá, o número não vai no campo nome, adicione uma descrição em suas modificações.
Geaquinto (2021-09-29 12:52:45+00:00): Por favor, seja mais cuidadoso nas suas edições. Nas suas últimas edições na Praça XV, a geometria foi corrompida a ponto da praça não ser mais renderizada, a estação do VLT foi descrita de maneira incorreta e redundante, algumas tags adicionadas são incorretas (como a contenção no chafariz que está descrito como se fosse uma represa).

A comunidade de mapeadores vai avaliar suas edições e provavelmente algumas serão completamente revertidas. Tente evitar esse tipo de erro para não perder tempo e trabalho.
jeslop (2021-09-27 12:57:57+00:00): Hello lockdownguy. What's the source for this revert?

Regards,

Jesús López
OpenStreetMap Foundation
Data Working Group
user_11418917 (2021-09-27 13:41:59+00:00): Hello jeslop, all were discussed with Andy Townsend in the DWG in [Ticket#2021092510000174]. Also you are full aware and it was discussed in your changeset: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/111668407          
     
Regards
SomeoneElse (2021-09-27 17:30:49+00:00): (for the benefit of anyone else without access to the DWG ticket referred to above)
This "revert of a revert" was indeed "discussed with Andy Townsend in the DWG in [Ticket#2021092510000174]", in as much as I asked repeatedly for the source of the data and got nothing but obfuscation in response.  We're still waiting.
Best Regards,
Andy Townsend, on behalf of OSM's Data Working Group.
SomeoneElse (2021-09-27 17:39:44+00:00): For completeness, just running the JOSM validator across a tiny area of this data results in significant errors - https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/983064112/history overlaps https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/983064115 , for example.  In the previous import there were more - https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/983046620/history apparently has a road running through it.
user_11418917 (2021-09-27 17:47:54+00:00): Dear Andy,      
If it's the overlapping errors, that's really easy to fix, I will ask them to join their team as a member to fix all of the errors if needed.           
And about the building over road, I looked at it and there is actually a building there or somekind of roof, see satellite imagery, I believe they draw without downloading the data from osm, so it's like empty layer, this is my guess for these kind of errors that building cross way.      
Regards.
SomeoneElse (2021-09-27 17:57:59+00:00): (to reiterate what I've written on the other changeset)
Please, read https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines and discuss what you plan to do before doing any more work.  "drawing in an empty layer and uploading" is exactly the wrong way to add data to OSM.
We are trying to help you, but having you continually arguing (and calling me a liar on Ticket#2021092510000174) really does not help us to help you.
As you follow https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines you will see that it says in step 2 "Discuss your plan. Email the OSM community to notify them of your plans, including a link to your wiki page. You can do this with an email to (at a minimum) imports@openstreetmap.org, talk-(your country)@openstreetmap.org, and the OSM group specific to the area directly impacted by the import".  Follow the guidelines, including all the steps that you have to perform on the way, and the OSM community globally will help you to achieve your goal.
user_11418917 (2021-09-27 18:17:15+00:00): Dear Andy,          
You said "and calling me a liar on Ticket#2021092510000174" but I NEVER called you such word! please go and recheck, I know what I wrote, I said jeslop said he contacted the Iraqi osm community and that is a lie. This is exactly what I said.                
I'm here trying to save valid data from being removed. You think I like arguing and giving my self a headache? absolutely not! I see someone did some AMAZING work that I and the iraqi community want to see it all over IRAQ! previously the team also discussed adding buildings in the far future for the Gulf countries starting with Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the UAE. And we as mappers in OSM we want this energy here! You don't know how much I literally begged the team to stay and continue.         
Regards.
SomeoneElse (2021-09-27 18:36:54+00:00): >  but I NEVER called you such word!

To be clear, what actually happened was I said:

> An attempt to communiciate with the user creating the errors at [1]https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/110820868 was met with no answer about the source at all, and no promise of a date when the errors would be fixed.

and you replied "False," at the start of a longer answer that still provided no answer about the source at all, and no promise of a date when the errors would be fixed.

To reiterate what I have said elsewhere - we are trying to help you.  Please do not assuming that if someone says you have made a mistake that it is a personal attack on you.
If someone asks you a question, do not argue or say incorrectly "I have already answered that" - answer the question.