piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
Jose Luis Infante (2020-02-13 23:18:06+00:00): Hola,
gràcies per la teva contribució.
Només una cosa: treu les etiquetes de area=yes i el name, i fica l'etiqueta building=yes. Amb això ja s'indica que el que has dibuixat es tracta d'un edifici.
Salutacions!
user_5359 (2020-02-15 05:03:31+00:00): Hallo! Ich würde gerne die Tags amenity = parking;shopping und parking:multi-storey=underground am rechten Gebäude (und bzgl amenity auch in der Relation) diskutieren.
Es werden in der Regel nicht alle Details aufgelistet sondern das Hauptmerkmal. Danach wäre die Relation eher ein shop=mall und das Gebäude hat eine Tiefgarage (egal viele Ebenen). Also wäre hier amenity = parking und parking=underground ausreichend. den Geschäften in diesem Parkhaus würde ich dann sicherheitshalber noch ein level verpassen, damit klar ist, dass diese nicht auf der Ebene der Parkmöglichkeiten sind.
UliFR (2020-02-16 20:34:39+00:00): Da bin ich eigentlich der falsche Diskussionspartner. Die Parkhausmerkmale waren schon drin bevor ich das angefasst habe und ich wollte nicht einfach (nochmehr) drin rumpfuschen. Wenn Du schon da unterwegs bist und evtl. Zeit hast: könntest Du Dir vielleicht mal die Relation des EKZ und die Gebäudeteile anschauen, ich bin mir nicht sicher ob das alles so stimmt. In verschiedenen Renderern sieht das nicht so aus wie es m.E. sein sollte, aber immer unterschiedlich. Die Gebäude des EKZ sind auch untereinander mit Übergängen in layer=1 verbunden, die aber noch nicht eingetragen sind.
skyper (2022-04-05 23:41:53+00:00): @Uli
Nein, das Gebäude war als Fläche und das Parkhaus mit dem Namen EKZ als MP-Relation gemappt. Alles schon voneinander getrennt bis Du zur Tat geschritten bist und dieses Chaos angerichtet hast.

Bringst Du das bitte wieder in Ordnung.

Fragende Grüße,
skyper
QwanturankQQQ (2020-02-16 12:13:42+00:00): Le site web de l'agence Qwanturank.fr : https://qwanturank-qwanturank-qwanturank.fr/
viloan (2020-02-13 23:26:48+00:00): Bem-vindo(a) ao OpenStreetMap e parabéns pela sua primeira edição! :-)

Temos um portal brasileiro sobre o OpenStreetMap, com várias informações úteis em https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brasil

Enquanto você está se acostumando com o OpenStreetMap, é recomendado que sempre pergunte aos usuários mais experientes antes de remover ou modificar objetos do mapa, especialmente aqueles que são aparentemente "estranhos" ou "fora do lugar".

Além disso, pedimos que não copie dados de mapas proprietários (como nomes de ruas do Google Maps, por exemplo) e que mapeie apenas o que existe na realidade.

Se você está mapeando por causa do Pokémon, dê uma olhada em https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/12/01/dicas-para-novos-mapeadores-pokemon-go/?lang=pt-pt
Se você está mapeando por causa do jogo do Harry Potter, as dicas e explicações na página anterior também são úteis para você.

Se tiver qualquer tipo de dúvida você pode entrar em contato com a comunidade brasileira através de algum dos canais disponíveis em https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt:Contact
O canal "Comunidade" do Telegram costuma ser o mais movimentado.

Abraço e boa diversão com suas edições!
szydzio (2020-06-16 11:03:24+00:00): Co tutaj ma być budowane skoro dałeś landuse=brownfield ? https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/772269182 + https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/772269171
geri-oc (2020-02-14 10:52:41+00:00): Hier müssen zwei Relationen für die jeweils beiden Richtungen eingetragen werden. Eine Relation kann nur ein from und ein to  haben. Die Speedcam kann aber in mehreren Relationen enthalten sein (unterschiedliche Richtung, unterschiedliche Geschwindigkeiten für Fahrzeugklassen, ...)
maxspeed= fehlt in der Relation.

Frage : Hast du diese Relation mit iD erstellt - oder nur geändert?

Gruß Gerd
citro (2020-02-14 11:46:41+00:00): Hallo Gerd,
ich habe das geändert, ich weiß nicht, was du mit ID meinst. Da es ein Rundumblitzer ist, dachte ich , ich benenne 2 Nodes davor und nach dem Blitzer in Relation from und to . Hab ich mir bei dir abgeschaut, aber evtl ein Fehler gemacht ?
Nakaner (2020-02-14 13:19:01+00:00): Hallo citro,

iD ist der Online-Editor auf www.openstreetmap.org, den du zum Bearbeiten verwendet hast. Gerd nutzt halt  oft JOSM, der Editor für Fortgeschrittene (https://josm.openstreetmap.de/).

Viele Grüße

Michael
citro (2020-02-14 14:03:08+00:00): Hallo Michael,
dann kann ich also an einem POI, gleich welcher Arr mit fremden iD nichts ändern. Dann wäre der Blitzer weiter nördlich auch nochmal zu bearbeiten. Den habe ich verschoben bzw. vorher gelöscht. Ich versuche mich  noch mit dem Standardeditor . Auf der schw. Alb (Offenhausen) habe ich mich auch versucht, Relationen zu setzen. Das wird wahrscheinlich auch nicht richtig sein. Fremde ID.
Polarbear-repair (2020-03-15 19:48:39+00:00): reverted in 82226386 with the comment:
CA: revert massive deletion of riverbank data without any refinement, from 80978849; DWG Ticket#2020022910000011;
*abq* (2020-02-21 10:38:08+00:00): Hi Skyper,
auf der offiziellen Stadtkarte heißt der Bach Valentinsdobel mit "d". Deshalb auch meine Änderung vor ein paar Jahren. Bitte wieder korrigieren
VG Reiner
skyper (2020-02-21 13:53:45+00:00): Hallo Reiner
Mmh, da hattest Du wohl ein paar vergessen beim Umbenennen.
Mal wieder ein Beispiel für Unterschiede bei offiziellen Karten.
Die Stadtkarte ist leider als Quelle nicht für OSM geeignet !

geändert, siehe:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/81320360

Ciao skyper
viloan (2020-02-14 00:08:45+00:00): Bem-vindo(a) ao OpenStreetMap e parabéns pela sua primeira edição! :-)

Temos um portal brasileiro sobre o OpenStreetMap, com várias informações úteis em https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brasil

Enquanto você está se acostumando com o OpenStreetMap, é recomendado que sempre pergunte aos usuários mais experientes antes de remover ou modificar objetos do mapa, especialmente aqueles que são aparentemente "estranhos" ou "fora do lugar".

Além disso, pedimos que não copie dados de mapas proprietários (como nomes de ruas do Google Maps, por exemplo) e que mapeie apenas o que existe na realidade.

Se você está mapeando por causa do Pokémon, dê uma olhada em https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/12/01/dicas-para-novos-mapeadores-pokemon-go/?lang=pt-pt
Se você está mapeando por causa do jogo do Harry Potter, as dicas e explicações na página anterior também são úteis para você.

Se tiver qualquer tipo de dúvida você pode entrar em contato com a comunidade brasileira através de algum dos canais disponíveis em https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt:Contact
O canal "Comunidade" do Telegram costuma ser o mais movimentado.

Abraço e boa diversão com suas edições!
viloan (2020-02-14 00:13:09+00:00): Bem-vindo(a) ao OpenStreetMap e parabéns pela sua primeira edição! :-)

Temos um portal brasileiro sobre o OpenStreetMap, com várias informações úteis em https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brasil

Enquanto você está se acostumando com o OpenStreetMap, é recomendado que sempre pergunte aos usuários mais experientes antes de remover ou modificar objetos do mapa, especialmente aqueles que são aparentemente "estranhos" ou "fora do lugar".

Além disso, pedimos que não copie dados de mapas proprietários (como nomes de ruas do Google Maps, por exemplo) e que mapeie apenas o que existe na realidade.

Se você está mapeando por causa do Pokémon, dê uma olhada em https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/12/01/dicas-para-novos-mapeadores-pokemon-go/?lang=pt-pt
Se você está mapeando por causa do jogo do Harry Potter, as dicas e explicações na página anterior também são úteis para você.

Se tiver qualquer tipo de dúvida você pode entrar em contato com a comunidade brasileira através de algum dos canais disponíveis em https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt:Contact
O canal "Comunidade" do Telegram costuma ser o mais movimentado.

Abraço e boa diversão com suas edições!
user_5359 (2020-02-14 04:29:49+00:00): Welcome to OSM! Please don't mark single building as landuse=commercial. Please use building=yes.
oba510 (2020-02-14 10:11:05+00:00): I'm not sure it makes sense to tag the stations themselves as "level=-2".  I would consider the entire facility (the concourse level, platform level, elevators, etc. to be the station.  It would make sense for the individual elements inside the station to get a level tag though.
clay_c (2020-02-14 17:18:03+00:00): I see what you're saying. I would consider the platform level to be the relevant level to assign to the station, the rest being just indoor pedestrian circulation. Either way, I guess it's unclear whether the level tag belongs on the station node in the first place.

I want to think through to alternate ways of mapping stations. Station polygons fulfill the same role as station nodes, and they're drawn as a convex hull around the stops and platforms (and switches if present). If I were to trace the station polygons here, should I assign them a level tag? If so, what? 

The most straightforward answer to me would be to have one polygon for each station, and to assign it the same level as the railway infrastructure it surrounds. I'd like to hear your thoughts.
archie (2020-02-14 00:58:15+00:00): What is the meaning of this edit?
HubMiner (2022-02-12 00:23:33+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/772281661

Please check opening_hours,
TravGW (2020-02-14 02:57:49+00:00): For a carport like this you just need to spit the way are the building and add covered=yes to the new way under the building. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:covered
TexasMapperB (2020-02-15 01:50:01+00:00): Thanks for the tip and fixing it! I wasn't sure
IanH (2020-04-16 02:50:26+00:00): Nice building tracing. You are welcome to set a  building=house if you are pretty sure it's a house.
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archie (2020-02-14 02:59:42+00:00): Still checking? What is the meaning of this edit?
seattlefyi (2020-02-14 18:59:43+00:00): Hi, thanks for adding in the street name. It's not obvious, or clear, but there's a naming convention (described on the wiki) that abbreviations in names (especially street names) not be used, since it's easier for data consumers to abbreviate than unabbreviate. Just a friendly suggestion for the future, I've already expanded the ones for this feature. Thanks again!
muralito (2020-02-18 12:54:14+00:00): Hi. Please add a real source for your chageset, as it seems to me that with Bing is not possible to know the directionality.
Dimacn (2020-02-14 04:33:25+00:00): Здравствуйте. Перед тем как делать правки дорог изучите пожалуйста классификацию дорог - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Key:highway  Важно понимать где какие дороги и какой статус им назначать.
🚂🚂🚂 (2020-02-14 03:17:17+00:00): Dear NikAlminoJokke,
may I ask you where the import documentation resides?
→ https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines
Do you know that the landuses look totally "rastered"?
NikAlmino (2020-02-14 12:23:38+00:00): Idk why, but when importing the shapes of the shapefile, JOSM processed all polygons pixelated. I will try to delete some nodes to make the shape more faithful to the real.

I have others imports in the queue, and now I become analyse they after import.
amarajz (2020-02-14 04:21:18+00:00): Hi,
I have made the edits in this Changeset : 80985223 based on Latest Private Earth Watch Imagery.

Regards,
amarajz.
pitscheplatsch (2020-02-15 15:46:54+00:00): reverted by https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/81046576
AkuAnakTimur (2020-02-16 10:30:41+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/661728953 - bukan trunk_link tapi memang highway untuk pejalan kaki
Riyadi IRM-RV (2020-02-17 04:24:28+00:00): already fixed it. thank you for your correction
Polarbear-repair (2020-02-20 12:56:55+00:00): In this CS you have deleted 3 buildings because they are "skewed", i.e. not parallel? This is no reason to delete them!
 
They are still visible in the imagery you named, as well as in Maxar.
One of them indeed has a trapezoid shape in reality!
 
A 4th building you have deleted just to recreate it in different shape. Please preserve the object history.

Only w772273699 has been removed in reality (Maxar, Esri; still visible in Bing/Mapbox).

Repaired.

In case of buildings razed in reality it is helpful to keep that status in OSM for a while, as in razed:building=yes, and not delete them immediately.
Arma IRM-ED (2020-11-19 05:22:55+00:00): Hi, Hieu Van. I have adjusted the trunk road (https://pewu.github.io/osm-history/#/way/633151464) based on Maxar Premium Imagery
hieuvan (2020-11-22 15:08:49+00:00): Thank you very much!
ianlopez1115 (2020-02-24 13:19:00+00:00): Deleting and recreating objects, especially buildings, is a discouraged practice - only create objects when there is none #REVIEWED_BAD #OSMCHA Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.mapbox.com/changesets/80987842
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apm-wa (2020-04-30 22:11:25+00:00): Спасибо большое!  
Üçkersen
Göýnük
и ещё много добавили!
DaveF (2020-02-19 01:41:04+00:00): Hi
There should only be one railway=station per station. Please remove & see wiki about building=train_station.
flohoff (2020-02-14 07:59:31+00:00): Moin,
wie ist das denn beschildert das da ein access=private drauf gehört?

Flo
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tmmanish (2020-02-14 09:13:37+00:00): Hi,
Thanks for looking into my edit. We gave this access= private, since the road is leading to the Preschool from the available resources. Please let me know in case of any modifications.
Always happy to learn from the community.

Thanks,
tmmanish
flohoff (2020-02-14 09:26:51+00:00): Hi,
typically we only map whats verifyable on the ground e.g. published by signs. And i was questioning whether there is a sign saying something about access=private.

Just because it leads up to a kindergarten doesnt make it access=private

Flo
ravsjith (2020-02-17 10:59:09+00:00): Hi,
Replying on Behalf of tmmanish. We completely align with your statement of making edits based on the ground reality. Previously, we received some suggestions from community to add private tag to the roads (like this scenario) based on the available resources, as they are not supposed to be used by the normal public. Please let me know in case of any further modifications.
VA00 (2020-05-25 05:31:45+00:00): Ścieżka wzdłuż Targaniczanki wygląda na solidną drogę dojazdową do domów. Czy ma kontynuację w górę rzeki?
RicoElectrico (2020-02-14 14:01:31+00:00): Hi, you didn't check the address. In your data it's "ulica Kazimierza Górskiego", it should be "Kazimierza Górskiego". We drop the prefix "ulica" as it's done on most other maps (except HERE Maps).
Asumarin (2020-02-17 06:42:17+00:00): Dziękuję bardzo za poprawkę!
aharvey (2021-07-18 09:19:15+00:00): I tried to access Merlon Pathway, but couldn't find it without risking trespassing. It was very unclear where was private and where was public, and didn't look accessible. I guess I just needed to push on and if I found myself in someones house by accident then apologise. Have you physically surveyed this by walking through?
LHBfans (2021-07-19 01:57:14+00:00): Thanks for your query. The Merlon Pathway is indeed a piece of public land. It has been intentionally disguised by the adjoining owners to look as though it belongs to them and to deter members of the public from using it. A group of interested local residents have a project to identify and map the many tracks, rights-of-way and easements which are an integral part of the peninsula and place to provide pedestrian access between streets. Willoughby Council is responsible for the network of bushland pathways in Castlecrag and the residents’ group is engaging with the council to ensure that the public have their rightful access to them.

Check out the notes below which one of the group members put together to assist interested users.

Merlon Pathway Notes
Investigate the route by going uphill, starting between houses 18 and 20 The Scarp. Take a look up and see where the overhead power lines go up the slope to The Bulwark. Staying roughly under the power lines will keep you on the pathway.

When you go up, always take care not to stray onto the neighbouring properties. The right (east) boundary is delineated by a length of green tape. The left (west) boundary is the edge of the concrete path and steps associated with the house there. There are also white survey pegs up each side boundary, about 10 m apart.

Between houses 18 and 20 The Scarp, proceed from the road up a few rough brick steps. Pass to the left of the wooden gate and the hedge and move onto the grassed area. From here you will see the lower loose stone walls which act as a deterrent to users. 

Clamber up the loose stone walls carefully then proceed up the rough track through the undergrowth.

Towards the top of the route, you will encounter a brick structure which is part of Council's stormwater system. Alongside this brick pit is a galvanised iron pipe which can help users to get up and around the pit. (Note that pathway opponents regularly place unsafe piles of bricks, stones and other rubble here as an active deterrent to users. Move what you want to make it safe to get up but expect that it will all be put back again by the time you re-visit).

From the top of the brick pit, follow the rough path through the undergrowth, past the carport on your right, up to a flat area and you will soon come out at The Bulwark. Be careful of cars as you step out onto the road.

If you are challenged in any way, the best thing to do is to ignore the challenge and carry on. You have every right to use the pathway and any action by anyone to deter you is improper. 

Above all, be sure to keep off the neighbouring properties. If you end up on a paved or concrete path or steps, you are trespassing. Stay roughly under the track of the overhead power lines and you cannot go wrong.
aharvey (2021-07-19 03:53:30+00:00): Thanks! I'll have to revisit for another attempt. I would have suggested we add that to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:description which is used to provide additional information to the end map user, but it's limited to 255 characters.

I'd consider changing access=permissive to access=yes then. Per https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access "permissive" means it's private but the owner generally allows access, but that might change at any time. "yes" means it's public right of way.
I just added one of the foreshore bush tracks yesterday, but I'm sure there are more missing short tracks still to be mapped.
chnav (2020-02-15 09:51:07+00:00): Hi,  

please never delete any data without reason. Try update geometry instead of deleting and re-drawing.  

Also I've noticed you map wit a LOT of redundant nodes. If the road is straight then no reason to make hundreds of useless nodes, which make the road curved instead of straight line.  Unfortunately other mappers have to cleanup after you and spend a lot of time. Please improve you mapping quality.  

Thanks.
user_6110846 (2022-06-23 11:05:04+00:00): ету правку откатили нечего мусорить в Украине дерьмом рускаго мира
RicoElectrico (2020-02-14 18:43:18+00:00): Hi, the opening hours don't seem right.

Compare with https://mediamarkt.pl/sklep/gdynia-ul-kcynska
RicoElectrico (2020-02-14 18:45:03+00:00): Your version: Mo 10:00-21:00; Tu-Su 10:00-20:00, official website version: Mo-Sa 10:00-21:00, Su 10:00-20:00
Asumarin (2020-02-17 06:46:25+00:00): Cześć! Masz rację, napraw to
mathieuS (2020-04-23 10:06:52+00:00): Bonjour,
Le bâtiment de la fontaine est plutôt de type `roof` que `hut`. Et n'hésitez pas à ajouter le tag `drinking_water=yes` sur la fontaine si l'eau est potable.
mathieuS (2020-04-23 10:09:19+00:00): Par ailleurs, le tag `name` ne doit pas être confondu avec un tag de description. En l'occurrence, je doute que la fontaine s'appelle vraiment 'fontaine couverte'. Ceci semble plutôt être une description et devrait être supprimé. Et s'il s'agit vraiment d'un nom, alors il manque les majuscules.
Vinber (2020-02-21 09:18:36+00:00): Bonjour et bienvenue dans OpenStreetMap,

nouvelle-nouveau, un petit mot ici pour faciliter votre arrivée : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:WikiProject_France/bienvenue

Cas particulier / Vous êtes en seconde, en cours de SNT, alors s'il vous plait, veuillez faire suivre à votre enseignant-e le lien suivant https://dane.ac-lyon.fr/spip/spip.php?article628

Et n'hésitez pas à répondre, poser des questions, ...


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Bonnes_pratiques#N.27utilisez_pas_de_tag_name_pour_d.C3.A9crire_des_choses.
Vinber (2020-02-21 09:18:21+00:00): Bonjour et bienvenue dans OpenStreetMap,

nouvelle-nouveau, un petit mot ici pour faciliter votre arrivée : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:WikiProject_France/bienvenue

Cas particulier / Vous êtes en seconde, en cours de SNT, alors s'il vous plait, veuillez faire suivre à votre enseignant-e le lien suivant https://dane.ac-lyon.fr/spip/spip.php?article628

Et n'hésitez pas à répondre, poser des questions, ...
Vinber (2020-02-21 09:12:24+00:00): Bonjour et bienvenue dans OpenStreetMap,

nouvelle-nouveau, un petit mot ici pour faciliter votre arrivée : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:WikiProject_France/bienvenue

Cas particulier / Vous êtes en seconde, en cours de SNT, alors s'il vous plait, veuillez faire suivre à votre enseignant-e le lien suivant https://dane.ac-lyon.fr/spip/spip.php?article628

Et n'hésitez pas à répondre, poser des questions, ...
Vinber (2020-02-21 09:13:16+00:00): j e ne pense pas que jésuites soit un operator, allez voir sur le wiki, vraisemblablement une structure asso ou autre !
lmagreault (2020-02-18 09:44:22+00:00): Bonjour,
Attention, la totalité de l'emprise du parc de l'EHPAD a été tagué en building=yes.
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skquinn (2020-02-14 11:13:53+00:00): Hi,

This is not the proper way to add your business on OpenStreetMap. I have reverted your change.
andi9876 (2020-02-15 13:18:57+00:00): Hi, you deleted access from roundabout to service road? Why?
andi9876 (2020-02-15 13:51:14+00:00): reverted
literan (2020-02-16 20:47:02+00:00): и снова name=Банк ЗЕНИТ. Откатываю.
iWowik (2020-02-16 21:55:39+00:00): в ЕГРЮЛ, насколько я понимаю, ПАО БАНК ЗЕНИТ 
никаких маленьких букв.
literan (2020-02-17 06:56:22+00:00): ну вот пусть в operator и ставят свой егрюл.
iWowik (2020-02-17 13:16:22+00:00): Так в operator и был написан ЗЕНИТ большими.
literan (2020-02-17 17:45:02+00:00): Ну а "Банк"-то маленькими. А ты говоришь, надо большими
rempshaener (2020-06-07 18:24:34+00:00): Already my last change to these objects was caused by one of your colleagues. After another inspection on-site: it is still a road under construction. This is also clearly visible on all aerial photographs. Please do not change it again. Ich werde die Änderungen entsprechend meiner heutigen Kontrolle vornehmen. I will make the changes according to my current visit.
aepunavy (2020-06-10 04:29:31+00:00): Hi rempshaener,
Thanks for your time for checking into our edits. I have made the edits based on the driver feedback and available resources. It is really helpful that the local community is improvising our edits. I will take this inputs from the community and pass the same to my colleagues as well. always happy to learn from the community.
Regards,
aepunavy
eggie (2020-02-14 09:09:29+00:00): Welkom bij OpenStreetMap. Ik heb een uitgebreid welkomstbericht met wat handige tips en links gestuurd als privébericht.
MVG,
Eggie
eggie (2020-02-14 09:05:57+00:00): Hi Orangesc.. 
Welcome to OSM.
Please decrease your edit area. It's hard to check your edits. Sometimes we see damage by shifting the map in editmodus.
Greetz,
Eggie
andi9876 (2020-02-15 13:05:10+00:00): Hi, why u tagged ferry routes with access=no?
andi9876 (2020-02-15 14:04:15+00:00): reverted
andi9876 (2020-02-16 07:22:23+00:00): May better if you specify motor_vehicle=no.
General access=no isn´t right.