piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
Constable (2017-07-11 08:36:03+00:00): hey Fredrik, why did you delete those two relations? 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7141935/history
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7141934/history
Do you know what relations are? I'm planning to restore them as there was no reason to deleted them but before doing it I'd like to hear from you.
Other than that you've been changing the Blueberry Line trail name, adding the "MTB4" prefix but I'm pretty sure that the "MTB4" prefix should be only put into the "ref" tag http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref
Here you can see you edit details http://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=50185141 and here you can see why relations are not useless and then shouldn't be deleted https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/46.5238/10.1214&layers=C
If you're up there in Livigno I'd suggest you to use the Cyclemap layer on openstreetmap.org and then you'll find those relations to be very useful.
Cheers
Constable (2017-07-14 10:40:33+00:00): An answer would have been much appreciated but never mind, I've restored the two deleted relations.
Fredrik L (2017-07-14 10:54:05+00:00): Hi Constaple,

It was just a mistake from my side. I will check on how to use relations :-)

BTW I noticed there are two old DH tracks where they are now building the new lift. Do you know if they have a name and the difficulty on them? 

Regards

Fredrik
Fredrik L (2017-07-14 11:01:52+00:00): I added the "mtb4" stuff since some added trail numbers on the Mottolini side had them and all sign posts in mountain have them. Also, if it's added to the name tag they will be shown on Garmin devices when using overlays like the ones on MTBMap.no

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Constable (2017-07-14 19:45:48+00:00): Hi, thanks for your answer. I've been there few weeks ago when the bike park was still closed and I've ridden those trails but I don't remember those trails you are talking about, sorry for that.
Talking about the "mtb*" prefix, yeah you're right that the Mottolino trails are mapped with that prefix but to be honest I'm pretty sure that's not correct . We at Openstreetmap have some guidelines to follow and one of them is "not mapping for the render" which means, do not map things to make them look better/appear on the map, it's up to the layer you're using to show some info and hide some others. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Don.27t_map_for_the_renderer
I'm also pretty sure that the trail number mtb* should go only in the ref tag. I'm not going to remove them from the name tag right now but I'm expecting some other expert mapper to do it sooner or later.
Thanks again for your help improving the map.
Cheers
Fredrik L (2017-07-17 18:56:29+00:00): Thanks for the information Constable! I can move the trail numbers to the ref tag on both sides of Livigno to make it consistent (there are not too many MTB trails). And, I guess the same should be done for non bike specific trails.
Constable (2017-07-19 07:04:13+00:00): Thanks for your help, yeah you guess right, the same should be done for non specific mtb trail.
If you have any doubt you can read the wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page (every tag has a dedicated page) or get in touch with the community using one of the mailing list available (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_lists)
Cheers
Fredrik L (2017-07-31 09:57:03+00:00): Hi again Constable,

I have now done some updates on the Carosello 3000 side of Livigno. I have moved the "MTBx" stuff to the ref tag on each of the (now opened) DH trails + some other stuff. Should there always be a route associated with each DH trail? And if so, should there be a ref tag on both the route and the trail?

Another thing that struck me is the grading of the difficulty of the trails. Comparing to the bike parks here in Norway/Sweden, and the Mottolini trails, I would say that Carrosello trails have  green (mtb:scale:imba=0) or blue  (mtb:scale:imba=1) and no red  (mtb:scale:imba=2) trails. I'm not sure if one should use the official grading of the difficulty or try to relate/normalize the grading to other bike parks?
Constable (2017-08-20 09:43:16+00:00): Hi Fredrik, thaks again for your precious work up here and sorry for my late answer.

I'd say yes to your first question, I mean, if a trail has well defined start and end points (as pretty much every DH trail does) I'd associate every section of it to a relation (also called route), so that people looking at the map can clearly identify the whole trail as one single piece.
I'm not so sure if both the relation and the various trail sections should have the ref tag. I'd say just keep putting them in twice and in the meanwhile I'll ask the Italian mailing list how should we deal with the ref tag.
I don't have much experience mapping bike parks but I'd say that we should map those trails difficult according to the bike park grading, maybe using both mtb:scale:imba and another tag which represents the official grading given by the bike park.
Here again I'm going to ask the Italian mailing list about the best way of mapping it.
If I'll get some good tips by the Italian community I'll write them here.
Thanks again for your help.
Cheers
Constable (2017-08-21 10:31:54+00:00): ref tag as operator and other similar tags should be added only to the relation, that's the answer I got so far.
I'll double check this area in the next weeks and see if some ref needs to be removed.
Cheers
wolfbert (2026-07-28 14:21:35+00:00): Hallo, ist lange her, kannst Du Dich noch erinnern ob der Weg https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/506538360 tatsächlich existiert hat oder bist Du da nur weglos abgestiegen? Ich war kürzlich dort, diesen Weg haben wir nicht gefunden und sind dann etwas weiter westlich unschwierig weglos abgestiegen.
literan (2017-07-12 14:36:31+00:00): здравствуйте! пожалуйста, не ставьте на дорожки теги bicycle=yes и тому подобные. Почему - можно почитать у меня в профиле
Новиков Алексей 339 (2017-07-13 05:09:25+00:00): Здравствуйте. Прочитал, понял. Хорошо.
_sev (2017-07-12 06:09:45+00:00): Why this was modified by a mapper from Brasil without discussion with the local community?
andygol (2017-07-12 06:13:47+00:00): https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=654395#p654395 - discussion in the Ukrainian branch of the forum.

@sev_ It looks like this. No discussions were held before this editing.
user_4547543 (2017-07-12 13:03:27+00:00): @sev_ @andygol All edits were made with photo and video imagery confirmation. Is this wrong? Kaart's goal is to improve data and make it as accurate as possible, roads with no physical barrier should not be split. With that being said Kaart also respects local preferences, is there anything wrong with these edits?

Thank you, Cheers!
dudka (2017-07-12 13:38:34+00:00): broken multipolygon http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1435730
user_4547543 (2017-07-12 13:44:02+00:00): @dudka It has been fixed, thank you.
highflyer74 (2017-07-11 06:32:39+00:00): Hallo und willkommen bei OSM!

Ich habe gesehen, daß Du Informationen zu OSM hinzugefügt hast, was sehr gut ist. Bitte denke daran, daß die hinzugefügten Daten nach dem OSM-Wiki (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page) getaggt werden müssen, damit sie für andere Menschen nutzbar gemacht werden können. Ansonsten kann Software, die die Einträge nutzen möchte, diese nicht lesen.

Teilweise wurde maxspeed=* auf die Punkte eines Weges gesetzt, dies wird aber nur auf den Weg selbst getaggt. Dann hast Du den place=* Node (https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/493868130), eigentlich frei stehen sollte, auf die Straße verschoben. Dies ist ungünstig, da er nichts mit der Straße zu tun hat (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:place).

Wenn Du Dir nicht sicher bist, versuche bitte etwas vorsichtiger zu editieren, damit die Datenqualität nicht leidet.

Wenn Du weiterhin Lust hast, zu OSM beizutragen, kann ich Dir sehr den Editor JOSM (https://josm.openstreetmap.de/) ans Herz legen. Dieser macht die Bearbeitung sehr viel komfortabler und sicherer, da er vor potentiellen Fehlern warnt.

Ein tolles Tutorial im PDF Format, welches von einem engagierten Mit-Mapper erstellt wurde, findest Du hier:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Osm-tutorial.pdf

Weiteren Lesestoff gibt es hier:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Good_changeset_comments
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Good_practice

Wenn Du Fragen hast, immer her damit!

Viele Grüße aus HB!
ElliottPlack (2017-07-11 02:49:27+00:00): Hello again. Have you visited Greenspring Valley lately? I was just there and removed the raquet club as a building and change it to construction because that building is being demolished. The parking lot is also closed. While the community welcomes contributions, we'd ask that you don't change the status of a building or landuse without checking it out in reality first. I'll go ahead and roll this one back. Thanks!
William_Mancini (2017-07-10 20:21:15+00:00): Update comments: Updated location of repaired Tempe Town Lake Dam based on current Tempe aerials. Removed erroneous sand layer (which existed under parks and lake). Added some description information to the dam and pedestrian bridge. - City of Tempe GIS
user_5359 (2017-07-11 17:55:38+00:00): Welcome to OSM! Is your business a car shop or a car repairshop (see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dcar or https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dcar_repair). Please add this information for better search results.
Jacobf_ (2017-07-14 09:55:16+00:00): Note that as of 07/17 Bing satellite data is out of date. This object was refurbished in 2016. Is now a fountain/splash play area.
Alexander-II (2017-07-10 23:14:46+00:00): Здравствуйте. В этой правке стоило сначала разрезать улицу в том месте, где заканчивается одностороннее движение, а лишь потом устанавливать этот признак. В итоге односторонней стал и участок до Базовской улицы. Будьте внимательней, пожалуйста. Я исправлю
Ramying (2017-07-11 16:10:21+00:00): I'm speechless. What is the point of deleting the entire bus route R2 from Via Volta to San Carlo (relation:7372053)? Why?
Polyglot (2017-07-11 21:11:36+00:00): I'm not sure how that went so wrong. I restored the relation and fixed it where it was broken: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7372053/history Sorry for the trouble.
Ramying (2017-07-14 09:46:49+00:00): I just realised something went wrong even for the relations no. 2386448 and 2386446 (tram route 1). They're disappeared too.
bhousel (2017-07-11 01:44:11+00:00): Thanks for your contribution and welcome to OpenStreetMap!
Alexander-II (2017-07-10 23:29:16+00:00): А тут не весь кусочек сделали односторонним. Но это я всё к тому же: повнимательнее :)
mosstreet (2017-07-11 10:25:07+00:00): Исхожу из схемы, а не вашего понимания кусочков, еще раз без повода сделаете правки, будем обсуждать кто тут прав, а кому заняться нечем
Alexander-II (2017-07-11 15:27:31+00:00): А приведите, пожалуйста, ссылку на источник, если вас не устраивает информация с сайта департамента транспорта: http://transport.mos.ru/#!/page/news/?id=26886 / http://dt.mos.ru/presscenter/news_department/detail/6421037.html Выдержка: "1-я Боевская улица от ул. Стромынка до ул. Матросская Тишина." Вы же сделали улицу односторонней только до 2-й Боевской https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=50186518 Можем начать обсуждать "кто тут прав" хоть сейчас.
Константин Гам (2017-07-11 07:39:37+00:00): Пожалуйста укажите расположение знаков "Движение на велосипеде разрешено", иначе не ставьте тег bicycle=yes!
eggie (2017-07-10 21:13:39+00:00): PB gestuurd met welkom
eggie (2017-07-10 21:25:56+00:00): De node guest_house heb ik samengevoegd met de BAG adresnode
ViriatoLusitano (2017-07-10 22:28:07+00:00): Sinto que seria mais fácil pegar nos dados, por exemplo: "source=UE CORINE land cover 2006" em Portugal e fazer uma reversão maciça no JOSM. :P
eggie (2017-07-10 21:19:52+00:00): Bij OSM worden de gebouwen geimporteerd vanuit de BAG (overheid)  Dus niet zelf ingetekend. Je doet dan en verzoek op het forum onder het draadje Verzoek Bag-import https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=12
Zelfde inlog als je osm account. 
Dan zet je deze link erbij https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/50187099#map=17/51.33716/3.98379
mor (2017-08-13 03:12:44+00:00): ¿No crees que sería más útil añadir cosas nuevas al mapa en lugar de repetir cosas que ya están?
user_4547543 (2017-07-10 21:06:40+00:00): Should say: Fixing road connections after merging Kharkivske Road #Kaart
nammala (2017-07-11 04:56:22+00:00): Hi,

Welcome and thanks for contributing to OpenStreetMap (OSM). Noticed that you have been adding nodes to the parks where there are already ways. So it means you are creating duplicate data. Make sure you don't repeat it again.

regards,
nammala
Nakaner (2017-12-25 16:04:43+00:00): Hallo heinig,

heißt der Weg wirklich "Bahnweg"? Ist das vor Ort ausgeschildert oder nur ein umgangssprachlicher Name? Örtliche, nicht ausgeschilderte Namen erfassen wir mit dem Tag loc_name=* statt name=*. Namen, die hingegen keine Eigennamen, sondern Beschreibungen sind, erfassen wir gar nicht. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Names#name_ist_nur_der_Name

Du hast in diesem und anderen Änderungssätzen an diesem Weg access=no ergänzt? Ist der Weg wirklich für jegliche Benutzung (ausgenommen Fußgänger und Radfahrer, denn diese hast du mit bicycle=yes und foot=yes ausgenommen) gesperrt? Darf er nicht von forstwirtschaftlichen Kraftfahrzeugen befahren werden?

Viele Grüße

Michael
Nakaner (2018-01-11 11:28:35+00:00): Hallo heinig,

ich habe den Namen soeben gelöscht.

Viele Grüße

Michael
Osm1980 (2017-08-05 19:48:06+00:00): سلام دوست من نوشتن کلمه مترو برای ایستگاهای مترو بر طبق گفته او اس ام اشتباه است
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dstation
Things to avoid:
Using the word "station" in the name=* if it is not part of the name printed on signs at the station, i.e. avoid name=Station Newton
eggie (2017-07-11 06:52:10+00:00): Beste Kevin,
De vorm van de huizen, winkels worden geïmporteerd vanuit de BAG. 
http://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=50187631
Wanneer je gaat schuiven met die vormen klopt de info van de BAG niet meer. Zij hier dan panden gesloopt of zijn er allen winkels uitgebreid naar het buurpand? Graag reactie.
eggie (2017-07-11 06:54:24+00:00): Het pand van AH loopt gedeeltelijk over de promoshop.
damzhouse (2017-07-11 07:20:58+00:00): Het pand is inderdaad  bouwkundig aangepast, de voormalige doorgang tussen voormalig "Freddie groente en fruit" is volledig verdwenen. (Dit is nu  doorgetrokken en een onderdeel van de AH geworden.) 
Daarnaast is een pand aan de andere kant van het WKC gesloopt om een nieuwe doorgang te creëren.
damzhouse (2017-07-11 07:21:57+00:00): Daarnaast zit The promoshop daar niet op een fysieke winkellocatie deze houdt zich op een woonhuis kantoor.
eggie (2017-07-11 07:41:48+00:00): Okee.  vraag dan via het forum even een BAG-update aan en zet deze link erbij.
Of de nieuwe situatie al in de BAG staat  kun je hier checken.  https://bagviewer.kadaster.nl/lvbag/bag-viewer/index.html#?searchQuery=oldenzaal&resultOffset=0&objectId=1668&geometry.x=260820.89506152&geometry.y=481480.86978467&zoomlevel=4&detailsObjectId=1668

Een aanvraag doe je op het forum onder het draadje Verzoek BAG-import. In no time heb je de nieuwe winkels.
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=12
eggie (2017-07-11 07:44:25+00:00): De BAG is nog niet aangepast. Je kunt op de site bij de gemeente een terugmelding doen. Dan passen ze het hoop ik aan.
AsgerFrank (2017-10-19 10:52:02+00:00): The added cycleway-lanes in this changeset are alle tracks; one should distinguish between lane (part of the road) and track (adjacent to, but separated from the road). 
Often this cannot be determined from aerials. BTW. compared to Bing, in Denmark, "SDFE luftfoto" is far better and updated.
AsgerFrank (2017-10-19 11:09:42+00:00): Admittedly, tagging that a cycleway exists, whether track or lane, is a great improvement of the map!
Myself, I guess I would have added some  fixme=lane or track? or cannot determine whether lane/track from aerial, to indicate the uncertainity.
Odiz (2017-10-19 18:42:45+00:00): The lanes I added were meant as car lanes. I never thought about the cycleway in this edit.
AsgerFrank (2017-10-19 19:35:27+00:00): I realize now that all cycleway lane tags were already present, from other editors in earlier changesets. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Supaplex (2017-07-11 01:36:26+00:00): 為何要刪除廟呢？
eggie (2017-07-11 07:10:21+00:00): Probeer wat netter te werken. Er zit ook een mogelijkheid in iD om zo'n parkeerplaats rechthoekig te krijgen.
http://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=50187809
Het gaat er toch ook om een wat betere kaart te krijgen.
eggie (2017-07-11 07:15:06+00:00): De parkeerplaats heb ik goedgelegd. Je kunt het als voorbeeld gebruiken. Over de parkeerplaats loopt nu een highway=service met extra tag service=parking_aisle
SomeoneElse (2017-07-18 16:16:39+00:00): Any reason that you've created https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7387261 as a multipolygon, when it's just a simple car park area?  Please don't make the data in OSM more complicated than it needs to be (in particular, don't make it more complicated than it actually is on the ground). Creating individual relations here creates "write-only data".  No-one will be able to edit it.  As I've mentioned in previous changeset comments there are a lot of places where you've got things just plain wrong from imagery so it's important that people are able to efficiently edit the objects that you're adding.
Also, please be a little more conservative with some of your guesses when mapping using imagery only.  If in doubt, please ask people locally about things that you're unsure about (or map somewhere that you are more familar with.  For example,   https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/506570315 is much more likely to be a wall rather than a fence, because it's in the middle of Kirkby.  I know that because I've been to Kirkby - if you don't, maybe ask rather than guess?  In this example my recollection and the Bing imagery also suggest wall rather than fence too.
Best Regards,
Andy
VlIvYur (2017-08-06 15:59:46+00:00): It is not 'just a simple car park' - almost all of the borders where drawn (two walls of buildings and a fence), so I've added a line on the S and made multi.
Maybe in this case it was more simple to click all points around and draw new closed polyline. But you have to be more careful with points (not to skip and not to do unnecessary) and it may hide this 'fence/wall' so it will be hard to find it - you have to know that there is something else except parking. Main problem is if a segment take a part in some polylines JOSM (and others editors too) didn't show you all polylines that has it. But if you make a maltipolygon - it will show you all relations that has this segment (window Memberships)
If my wish I'll do all with relations. This is more easy to edit than you say. And you are wrong with 'no-one' - our mappers like to edit multipolygons than overlapping lines. Just try to edit multileveled bulding that is not in multipolygons, or indoor mapped in mall.
About fence/wall: all of them are barriers and are impassable for common people. If you know what kind it is - you are welcome to edit (not to drop). And 'middle of Kirkby' is not an argument for wall - there are a lot of fences around retail (look to Morrisons). But between households I think more walls then fences.
SomeoneElse_Revert (2017-07-10 23:23:48+00:00): This changeset reverts some or all edits made in changesets 49610578, 49764364, 49765148, 49765825, 49765878, 49765911, 49766010, 50009835, 50009892, 50009943, 50009977, 50010023, 50010067, 50010122, 50010174, 50010230, 50010796, 50015002, 50030562, 50030689, 50030750, 50030960, 50040626, 50051630, 50128985, 50129249, 50129368, 50129751, 50129857, 50129934, 50130186, 50130355, 50130653.
Constable (2017-07-11 08:10:27+00:00): Hi there; is there any specific reason why you're creating duplicated roads that are already well mapped?
here you can see the details of your edit http://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=50188071
I'm going to revert this changeset as soon as possible.
Please have a look at a tutorial before going on with your edits http://learnosm.org/en/
Thanks
Zakir KY (2017-07-11 08:52:50+00:00): Dear Constable,
I apologize for this. Actually it is a part of my thesis to draw some conclusions, so it was solely for analysis purpose. and I was planning to delete it as soon as I complete the analysis. I apologize again for the inconvenience. Thanks.
Gh0stz0x (2017-07-11 13:55:06+00:00): @Constable hai revertato? Mi dispiace per lui ma ci sono mille altri modi per fare la sua tesi, senza danneggiare il db di OSM. Non poteva farlo in locale??
Zakir KY (2017-07-11 15:24:28+00:00): @Andreas Lattmann, Thank you for your comment but i did NOT intend to damage any data. I did NOT touch or edit any existing data. It was a superimposed layer which was meant to be deleted soon after my work (In an hour or so). I know it's an open data and so I also apologized in the previous comment for any inconvenience that i created. You said there are thousand ways to do my thesis, could you please enlighten me of all those ways that you know of, to do my thesis work? I would acknowledge any suggestion (If any) from you. "Non poteva farlo in locale??" Yes, the GPS points were recorded locally. Anyway the data is already deleted. Thanks.
Zakir KY (2017-07-11 15:49:37+00:00): @Constable I apologize again for the inconvenience.
Gh0stz0x (2017-07-11 16:56:51+00:00): The best method to perform analyzes is using GIS systems like Qgis [1]. You have the ability to download OSM data in many formats. Here is a link to download OSM data extracts [2].

[1] http://bit.ly/2sMbWbZ 
[2] http://bit.ly/2u5lK4J

I'm sure it was not your intention to do damage, but if you asked the Italian community you would have found people who would help you.
However, I suggest you contact the Italian community: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IT:Contact http://forum.openstreetmap.org/ http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it irc : //irc.oftc.net/#osm-it
Thank you! :-)
Zakir KY (2017-07-11 22:49:05+00:00): @Andreas lattmann. Thank you very much for the guidance. It seems quite helpful and I will try to use these links in the future. I am already using QGIS for tracing the GPS points that i recorded, the mistake that i did was that i uploaded the data on OSM to compare it with the existing GPS tracks, now i understand i didn't have to upload it. Regarding contacting the OSM community, i have contacted some people in the OSM community. Some gave me a response regarding the basics, for my specific queries either i don't get a response or the response is very late and that too a very generic response, On average i get a response in more than two weeks (3 weeks in some cases). Since i have time limitations and i have to complete my thesis in a specified time so i made this mistake of uploading the data without giving it much thought. Anyway thank you very much. I will try to follow these instructons. Cheers.
Constable (2017-07-12 08:57:04+00:00): Si Andrea, ho rimosso ieri le vie duplicate. Changeset 50194790
eggie (2017-07-11 06:58:28+00:00): footway = sidewalk hoort niet op voetpaden. dat is een "fout" in editor iD.
Graag rekening meehouden.
landuse grass nooit vastplakken aan de wegen. Misschien ook iets netter tekekenen, want het footpad loopt ook door de bebouwing heen.
http://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=50188279
Ik maak dat pad even los van het gras.
eggie (2017-07-11 07:03:45+00:00): Het voetpad bij de Gerard Terborchstraat goedgelegd en het gras losgemaakt van de paden..
Graag reactie.. Wij volgen de eerste edit dagen van startende mappers.. ook om te helpen.
Alan (2017-07-10 23:22:38+00:00): Hello, and thank you for contributing to OpenStreetMap. Could you add a little bit more information about this business to make the map more useful? For example, would office=lawyer be appropriate here? See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:office%3Dlawyer
AmZaf (2017-09-06 08:50:21+00:00): تغییرات شما روی میدان نواب صفوی اشتباه است. لطفا چشم بسته و از روی نقشه های متفرقه ادیت نکنید.

Some of your edits here are plain wrong. You obviously lack local knowledge on this area.