piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
GPX Speedtag (2019-11-21 18:45:02+00:00): Er zijn paaltjes.
Lees dit eens:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dpedestrian

"A highway=pedestrian is a road or an area mainly or exclusively for pedestrians in which some vehicle traffic may be authorized (e.g. emergency, taxi, delivery, ...). Typically found in shopping areas, town centres, places with tourism attractions and recreation/civic areas, where wide expanses of hard surface are provided for pedestrians to walk."

Dan gaat het vooral om dit stukje:
in which some vehicle traffic may be authorized (e.g. emergency, taxi, delivery, ...).

Het is zelfs zo dat wanneer er een traumahelikopter land ze niet met het voertuig op de voetgangersstraat kunnen komen wegens de paaltjes.

En dan wordt het getagged als voetgangersstraat.

Op een voetgangersstraat horen altijd voertuigen te kunnen komen.
Dat is hier echt niet het geval.
eggie (2019-11-21 18:49:33+00:00): Waar staat hier het bord fietspad? 
Waarom een fietspad mappen waar geen fietspad is? 
Heb je overleg gevoerd met de voorgaande mapper?
Paaltjes kun je toevoegen en aangeven dat ze verwijderbaar zijn en ook nog emergency=yes 
Graag discussie op het forum.
Het gaat er nu even om waarom access=no (zie forum)
eggie (2019-11-21 20:53:08+00:00): Je hebt alles helaas weer foutief teruggedraaid zonder overleg met de oorspronkelijke mappers. 
Het waren hun edits!
Het hele gebied staat aangegeven als voetgangersgebied vanaf het paaltje bij het gemeentehuis. Het is mij een raadsel waarom je verder niet thuis geeft op het forum en geen antwoord geeft op bobenstaande vragen.
Gr eggie
eggie (2019-11-21 17:42:12+00:00): Beste Henk... Het is policy in OSM Nederland om nooit zomaar met access=no te beginnen.
Er is hier toch geen gebiedsverbod?
bicycle en foot=yes zijn default op een fietspad.
Vriendelijk verzoek om access=no weg te halen.
Graag reactie,
MVG,
Eggie
eggie (2019-11-21 18:16:54+00:00): access=no heb ik verwijderd. Dat is echt niet correct
GPX Speedtag (2019-11-21 18:23:53+00:00): Dat is niet zo Eggie.
Bij een weg waar alleen een bus is toegestaan tag je eerst ook access=no 
Met access bepaal je of het voor alle voertuigen toegankelijk is.
Access=no en alle andere voertuigen op yes komt dus op hetzelfde uit als Access=yes.
Als je er niet met een tractor, vrachtwagen, auto, bus, bromfiets, etc. mag komen heb je meer voertuigen die er niet mogen komen dan wel.
Kortom is het gewoon access=no
eggie (2019-11-21 18:34:41+00:00): Beste Henk... Dan nodig ik je uit op het forum. Deze manier van taggen geeft doorlopend ellende als mappers met maproulette bv overal de overbodige defaults gaan verwijderen. access-no blijft dan over. .. en de routering is stuk. Geloof me .. ik doe dit al "tijdje". 
We beginnen dus niet met access=no
wanneer iemand toch overbodige tags gaat zeten ald foot-yes of bicycle=yes laat ik het staan. maar het is echt default.
... maar discussie op het forum graag.
Je gaat dus alle wegen omtaggen naar access=no ? .. en dan de hele rits mogelijkheden toevoegen die er wel mogen komen  van sneeuwscooter tot paard?
Bedankt in ieder geval voor je reactie 
ik open een draadje...
eggie (2019-11-21 18:44:17+00:00): Je bent van harte uitgenodigd in dit draadje.. 
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=769777#p769777
MVG,
Eggie
pitscheplatsch (2019-11-22 08:23:40+00:00): Hi mariotomo,

may I know the reason behind, starting with this changeset, deleting almost 50,000 relations in this area? Thanks.

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mariotomo (2019-11-22 11:01:49+00:00): Hi pitscheplatsch, sure: as you see, it's all restriction:no_u_turn.  as you see, it's a huge amount.  some users from Kaart alerted the Panama community on Telegram of their (Kaart people) impossibility to validate any of them (restriction:no_u_turn), using mapillary images.  I verified myself that in the area where I now live there were not a single traffic signal justifying any of the tens of restrictions present.  marczoutendijk commented on a block request I had opened for the user who produced over thirty thousand such relations (check changeset:62077590), and agreed that the better approach was to delete all of them (only by users who produced more than 500) than to check all of them and find the real ones.

as cherry on the pie: in the area where I currently live I just added a restriction:no_u_turn, the only one I saw in the area, and which was not in the set I deleted.

on the Telegram OSM Panama group we are now in contact with the group which added the relations in the first place.  Unfortunately, I had just performed the cleaning up when they got in touch, 10 months after the first attempts to get in contact.
mariotomo (2019-11-22 12:47:03+00:00): I am now doubting I overshot, and deleted also things not falling in the category "more than 500 by the same user".
pitscheplatsch (2019-11-22 14:42:17+00:00): Thanks for your answer.

Some of your changes have been reverted already? See https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/77388805
mariotomo (2019-11-22 14:46:25+00:00): yes, at a certain point I had by mistake deleted *ALL* remaining restrictions, while I wanted to delete those which did not pass some JOSM validations.  I could not revert it myself (did not yet have the JOSM plugin) so I asked help.
Max Bernal (2019-11-22 17:54:09+00:00): I created a lot of those restrictions and in deep those do not correspont from any signal restriction but a geometrical or because the way the streets were built in OSM dataset it must be created in order to represent real flows in streets.

those restrictions were created for the planning group of Transporte Masivo de Panamá first to download the network and work in the routes in some especialice software like Arc Map and his extension Network Analyst, but lately because anyone in the comunity could make their own analyst. Because that I ´m sure none of those restrictions were created to missrepresent something and contrary permit to represent the real world.

I would like to ask to reestablish all of them because when they were remove Panama´s streets network are not representing the reality.

Thank
Maximiliano Bernal
fgouget (2021-03-06 18:52:39+00:00): Bonjour,

Le champ start_date indique quand l'arrêt de bus a été mis en place, pas l'heure de passage du bus.

Mais je ne sais pas comment noter l'heure de passage du (premier?) bus. Sauriez-vous faire la modification ?

Cordialement,
Arlas (2019-11-21 16:07:35+00:00): inutile coprire Edit War con commenti "Aggiornamenti Siracusa" non pertinenti. Se un posto cambia nome bisogna accettarlo; l'area di servizio si chiama "Bagali Est" accertato di persona. Chiudere note e revertare è un atteggiamento immaturo
fayor (2019-11-21 16:29:20+00:00): Ascolta, non ho voglia di litigare con te e con nessun altro. Faccio quella strada da anni e so bene come stanno le cose: Bagali Est è il nome con cui è stata indicata inizialmente, mentre dopo qualche anno hanno installato il tabellone con il nome Priolo Est, senza però rimuovere il cartello di direzione con la vecchia denominazione.
Se cerchi in rete "Bagali Est" ti dà 300 risultati, "Priolo Est" 1400, ma se mi trovi un qualche documento da dove risulta il nome "ufficiale" ti darò ragione.
Arlas (2019-11-21 16:36:55+00:00): Probabilmente vuoi che vada in autostrada mi fermi e ti faccia una foto perché la nota non ti basta. Chi negli anni ha visto i miei edit può accertare che i dati sono sempre stati inseriti "on the ground" con uno sforzo non indifferente.
L'unica cosa che ne viene fuori è che vuoi fare edit war e mascherarli con il solito mega edit gigante in maniera da eliminare il lavoro degli altri; hai ottenuto il tuo scopo: allontanare tutti da questo progetto.
Hai il diritto di cambiare e cancellare tutti i dati, la licenza lo permette.
Non hai il diritto di trattare le persone a pesci in faccia come continui a fare da anni.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/How_We_Map

You do not have to ask permission before modifying existing data. If you believe that you can improve something, then do it.
When in doubt, also consider the "on the ground rule": map the world as it can be observed by someone physically there.
fayor (2019-11-21 16:45:16+00:00): Non serve una foto, lo so che il cartello non è stato rimosso e te l'ho anche scritto. 
Se per "accertato di persona" intendi questo mi deludi: pensavo che avessi fatto una ricerca approfondita. 
Ma tu vedi il cartello minuscolo e non vedi il grande tabellone dietro? Hai un concetto riduttivo di "on the ground"
Arlas (2019-11-21 16:59:28+00:00): Vedo bene, vedo anche il piccolo memoriale dedicato a "Tino Tiralongo".
Quello che vedo o che penso comunque non lo rispetti. Se tu avessi un atteggiamento maturo non lo "maschereresti" con modifiche così. La pensi diversamente? ovvio. Scrivilo. Invece cancelli la nota come "risolta" e "mascheri" la tua modifica? Atteggiamento prevedibile: mi aspettavo un revert entro 24h invece ci hai messo meno ( ;D )
Comunque tranquillo, come vedi è tutto come prima, non ti faccio perdere tempo a scrivere commenti qui, vai e divertiti a fare edit war con altri poveri utenti.
dgitto (2019-11-22 03:21:38+00:00): Fayor, in Sicilia c'è tanto da mappare, e con utenti esperti come te la possiamo rendere una delle regioni meglio mappate d'Italia.
Se a me capita un accenno di edit war, e capisco che dall'altro lato non c'è un vandalo maniaco, ma un altro mappatore esperto e in buona fede, posso benissimo pensare di lasciar correre (anche se avessi la certezza divina di avere ragione) perché in fondo stiamo parlando di UN SINGOLO nome, e non di definire uno standard europeo per i nomi dei distributori!
Scusate l'intervento non richiesto, ma si può fare ogni tanto, in un progetto condiviso.
Hjart (2019-11-21 18:55:32+00:00): Jeg har rettet dette
Vellore Fortress Private Limited (2020-09-15 02:25:00+00:00): No.21/1, Kasthuri Bhai 1st Street,
Samiyaar Madam main road, MelKrishnapuram,
Ambur, Thiruppatur District,
Pincode-635802.
Luzandro (2019-11-23 07:40:16+00:00): Hallo,

das Hofmarcher wurde vor 3 Jahren von Hotel auf "Monument" geändert, was mir - ohne Ortskenntnis - sowieso ein wenig eigenartig erscheint. Das N8Quartier war damit jedenfalls auch als Monument eingetragen, was ich auf Hotel geändert habe.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Tag:historic%3Dmonument

LG Andreas
UeWY9YwY (2019-11-21 19:44:30+00:00): No to teraz mnie zdziwiłeś, nie zdawałem sobie sprawy, że jesteś tak walnięty typek. Sprawa leci do Data Working Group, powodzenia!
Krzysiu Jarzyna (2019-11-21 20:01:39+00:00): Droga ta zbiera co najwyżej drobny ruch z osiedla i jako taka została przeze mnie sklasyfikowana: "unclassified" / "czwartorzędowa" - to max co może z tego być. Twoje wyobrażenia o tym osiedlu i klasyfikacja dróg ponad ich rangę jest grubo przesadzona i szkodliwa dla wszelkiego routingu, który z tych danych korzysta. Głuchy jesteś jednak na jakiekolwiek uwagi i próby racjonalnej dyskusji.
maraf24 (2019-11-21 21:45:33+00:00): Główne drogi dojazdu/przejazdu przez takie osiedle jak tu powinny mieć większą kategorię niż residential. Czy to jest unclassified czy tertiary jest praktycznie bez znaczenia. Sam bym tu jednak dał unclassified.
abrensch (2019-11-24 07:35:18+00:00): Hallo dgdg,

meinst Du das hier ("bis Ende November"):
https://www.wetzlar.de/rathaus/aktuelles/pressemitteilungen/2019_10/sperrung-garbenheimer-strass.php ?

Kurzfristige Sperrungen kommentarlos eintragen macht Deinen Mitstreitern das Leben nicht leicht. Deine Sperrung in Odenhausen scheint mir auch eher kurzfristig (und hat auch keinen Änderungskommentar!) weil sie zur Winterpause öffnen soll.

Wäre toll wenn Du in den Änderungssatz-Kommentaren etwas von Deinem Wissen hinterlassen würdest, und möglichst solche Sperrungen unter 6 Wochen mit nur kurzen Umleitungen garnicht eintragen.

Danke und Gruss, Arndt
abrensch (2019-12-01 08:36:12+00:00): Nochmal Hallo,

ich habe den Änderungssatz zurueckgesetzt

Gruss, Arndt
dgdg (2019-12-01 11:48:19+00:00): Da freut sich jeder, der Openstreetmap-Routenplanung einsetzt, wenn Straßensperrungen nicht eingetragen sind.
:-(
ChrissW-R1 (2025-05-30 13:33:40+00:00): Please check https://osm.org/note/4781868
mariotomo (2019-11-21 16:16:11+00:00): I'm afraid I made a mistake and removed ALL no_u_turn restrictions.  regardless the amount of members.
marczoutendijk (2019-11-21 18:20:44+00:00): Reverted by https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/77393012 on request by mariotomo.


Marc Zoutendijk  
OpenStreetMap Foundation  
Data Working Group
Anton Khorev (2021-03-27 13:06:24+00:00): They had members. Members were deleted in:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/73937004
mariotomo (2021-03-27 16:48:59+00:00): this was part of a cleanup I performed upon suggestion by Kaart: tons of restrictions not related to on-the-ground signalling, needed by the routing software used by MiBus in Panamá CIty. 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/77387510
woodpeck_repair (2019-11-24 03:55:11+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 77473737 where the changeset comment is: Revert copying of translations from Wikipedia
user_5359 (2019-11-21 17:27:04+00:00): Welcome to OSM! Please carry the whole area of the park and not just one node.
iWowik (2019-11-23 17:50:17+00:00): Рад вас приветствовать в проекте, вы ставите номера домов, а их обычно не просто найти.
Скажите, пожалуйста, а откуда вы их берете?
funnybee (2019-11-24 14:27:08+00:00): Здравствуйте! Давно живу в этом городе, работала в разных местах. В т.ч. на почте.
woodpeck_repair (2019-11-24 03:57:32+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 77473749 where the changeset comment is: Revert copying of translations from Wikipedia
viloan (2019-11-21 16:35:59+00:00): Bem-vindo(a) ao OpenStreetMap e parabéns pela sua primeira edição! :-)

Temos um portal brasileiro sobre o OpenStreetMap, com várias informações úteis em https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brasil

Enquanto você está se acostumando com o OpenStreetMap, é recomendado que sempre pergunte aos usuários mais experientes antes de remover ou modificar objetos do mapa, especialmente aqueles que são aparentemente "estranhos" ou "fora do lugar".

Além disso, pedimos que não copie dados de mapas proprietários (como nomes de ruas do Google Maps, por exemplo) e que mapeie apenas o que existe na realidade.

Se você está mapeando por causa do Pokémon, dê uma olhada em https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/12/01/dicas-para-novos-mapeadores-pokemon-go/?lang=pt-pt
Se você está mapeando por causa do jogo do Harry Potter, as dicas e explicações na página anterior também são úteis para você.

Se tiver qualquer tipo de dúvida você pode entrar em contato com a comunidade brasileira através de algum dos canais disponíveis em https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt:Contact
O canal "Comunidade" do Telegram costuma ser o mais movimentado.

Abraço e boa diversão com suas edições!
pantufla (2023-03-14 13:29:49+00:00): Hola, sobre este POI. Ponerle de nombre "Paki" es desaconsejado, es lenguaje informal y puede interpretarse xenófobo. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/929973556/history
m2345 (2019-11-25 18:21:39+00:00): Z al. Pokoju zgoda, ale ul. Westerplatte? Remontowana jest od 3 tygodni i nadal nie został podany nawet przewidywany czas zakończenia robót. Analogiczna sytuacja jest na ul. Dietla, z tym że remont tam trwa aktualnie kilkukrotnie dłużej
Piotr Deda (2019-11-28 18:05:52+00:00): Dzięki za wiadomość.

Zgodnie z wiki (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pl:Key:construction) tagu należy używać jeśli remont potrwa "co najmniej sześć do dziewięciu miesięcy". Remont Westerplatte został wydłużony, ale jeśli wierzyć Radiu Kraków tylko do 9 grudnia (https://www.radiokrakow.pl/wiadomosci/krakow/remont-torowiska-na-ul-westerplatte-wydluzy-sie-o-ok-dwa-tygodnie/). W każdym bądź razie jest to kwestia tygodni a nie miesiący, dlatego moim zdaniem tagu nie powinno być.

Pozdrawiam
topolusitania (2019-11-21 19:50:49+00:00): Please do not use mapbox images. They are quite old.
Maxar is much better
Baraboo1 (2019-11-21 20:25:10+00:00): Thank you for the information!
woodpeck_repair (2019-11-24 04:01:53+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 77473764 where the changeset comment is: Revert copying of translations from Wikipedia
tomhukins (2019-11-22 17:46:10+00:00): Hi, you requested a review of your changes.  I don't know the area, but the tags you've used look sensible and helpful to me.  Thank you for improving the map.
aceman444 (2019-11-24 11:29:14+00:00): Dakujem, toto uz je aspon posun spravnym smerom, ale asi mate GPS/GPX stale nepresne. Podla leteckych snimkov je krizovatka este dalsich 5 metrov na vychod.
Kedze pouzivate JOSM, skuste si zmeny porovnava na podklad od ZBGIS (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Slovakia/Sources).
aceman444 (2019-11-24 11:49:51+00:00): Aha, Vy ste tu cestu (a ine) v minulosti premiestnili zle (https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=63331927), a teraz ste to jemne opravili...
roman7777 (2019-11-26 16:38:24+00:00): Helou aceman,
urob screenshot a daj zaves niekde, neviem ktora krizovatka, pozeram aj aj, majova - dolnozemska sa mi zda dobre
aceman444 (2019-12-07 16:48:54+00:00): Jasne, ze uz je to dobre, ked som to opravil:) Pozrite ale na tej linke "achavi" co som napisal, ako Vase posuny (zelene linie) nesedia.
anastasia_ (2021-10-07 11:38:29+00:00): Добрый день. Подскажите, пожалуйста, какой источник вы использовали?
woodpeck_repair (2019-11-24 04:04:57+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 77473795 where the changeset comment is: Revert copying of translations from Wikipedia
Enock4seth (2021-07-23 00:13:31+00:00): How did you come to this conclusion, https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/747871211 ? Having been here so many years ago, I can tell this is NO `ford=yes` and cannot be traversed by motor vehicles. A close look at publicly available and accessible OSM imagery tells you there are boats on the river banks.  Can you clarify this?
SaikatM (2021-07-26 08:41:55+00:00): Hi Enock, Vortsjarv has left the team so I reviewed this location. I think the water level has varied over the years and the available imagery shows it at a high point. In the past there has been a road. I noticed that they are building a larger, more permanent bridge here so I changed it highway=construction. Thanks!
trigpoint (2019-11-22 15:15:29+00:00): Hi Tim, when adding brand:wikipedia tags  in countries where the language is not English, would it not be more respectful to be pointing at the wikipedia page for that language, rather than English?

Cheers Phil
user_115918 (2019-11-23 06:45:27+00:00): The wikidata and wikipedia data is actually from iD presets that are powered by the Name Suggestion Index project. For worldwide brands it the practice has been to link to the en page, but honestly the wikipedia page is really redundant. The important part is setting the wikidata ID that provides a unique brand marker for this company and links to each locale's specific wikipedia page. I know there's work underway to more regional brand data in the presets, which would also probably enable more localized wikipedia links there.
SomeoneElse (2019-12-03 22:36:49+00:00): Speaking as a human, the wikipedia pages are absolutely not redundant - they're far easier to glean information from than a link into wikidata.  
Re the language issue, the iD developers are aware of it but are not planning to fix it: https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/6471 .
woodpeck_repair (2019-11-24 04:08:22+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 77473816 where the changeset comment is: Revert copying of translations from Wikipedia
eggie (2019-11-21 21:09:26+00:00): Een uitstapje naar Nederland gemaakt in je edits daarom..
Welkom bij OpenStreetMap. Ik heb een uitgebreid welkomstbericht met wat handige tips en links gestuurd als privébericht.
MVG,
Eggie
mariotomo (2019-11-28 12:12:03+00:00): hola.  que bien que hayas visitado el Federal Mall.  no será que recogiste trazas gps?  o que puedas volver, y trazar la extensión?  todavía no aparece en las fotos ni maxar ni bing, y casi no tenemos trazas gps en el área.
BCNorwich (2019-11-21 18:36:12+00:00): Hello and welcome to OpenStreetMap.

Unfortunately tagging description details onto a highway is not the way to add a business to OSM.

You need to precisely place a node and tag it with the data. There is help within the online iD editor, click the question symbol right side of the editor.

I have removed the tag from the highway. If you need any help please just ask.

Regards Bernard.
pantufla (2019-12-06 18:44:18+00:00): Moin! Hello, I think the boundaries of the national park are now open  because of this edit and the render for the area doesn't work
woodpeck_repair (2019-11-24 04:12:10+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 77473838 where the changeset comment is: Revert copying of translations from Wikipedia
mariotomo (2019-11-21 18:22:08+00:00): thank you
marczoutendijk (2019-11-21 18:22:54+00:00): This revert was necessary because user mariotomo made a mistake while deleting the restriction:no_u_turn tagging on a number of highways.
Warin61 (2020-02-13 04:37:14+00:00): This is not a cycling route .. so it is not an 'lcn'. 

I have retagged it as a 'rwn' - regional walking network.
yoltia (2020-02-13 19:03:06+00:00): Absolutely, thanks for fixing my mistake!
eggie (2019-11-22 17:37:26+00:00): Zou je kunnen uitleggen wat je met bovenstaand commentaar bedoelt?
Heb je bij je verandering naar access=no nu wel of geen overleg met voorgaande mapper?
Het was toch juist de bedoeling dat je zelf eerst contact zoekt met medemapper Jan Westerhoven?
Het waren zijn edits.....
Gr eggie
GPX Speedtag (2019-11-22 18:22:45+00:00): Dat zijn edits van April 2017.
Als ik op edits reageer waarom de snelheid zo hoog stond krijg ik reacties dat het geen zin heeft om te reageren en krijg ik daar commentaar op.

Nu doe ik het niet en krijg ik daar commentaar op.

Zo doe je dus nooit wat goed.
Dat gezeik ben ik dus een beetje zat.

Het is behoorlijk asociaal om zomaar zonder overleg aan te geven dat het sowieso niet klopt.

Zo heeft de heer Westerhoven zo veel verstand van Heerhugowaard dat hij in 2018 begint over veranderingen die er in 2015 al waren.
KNV1988 (2019-11-21 18:33:01+00:00): Partially Mapped
eggie (2019-11-21 21:40:34+00:00): En dus klopt je verhaal niet... Want je redenering maakt het nog geen fietspad. Het advies van het forum leg je geheel naast je neer en dat is helaas niet voor het eerst. 
Wanneer je er een highway=path van zou maken kan ik het nog wel egrijpen, maar waarom een fietspad?  Waar haal je dat vandaan?
eggie (2019-11-21 21:43:50+00:00): Svp antwoord op deze vragen.
Geef svp aan waar het bord fietspad staat.
Heb je overleg gevoerd met voorgaande mappers? Dat is zo de gewoonte bij ingrijpende veranderingen. 
Gr eggie
Geonick (2019-11-24 19:09:22+00:00): Lieber Stefan,

Der Name "Polizeidienstelle" bei https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/660176171 war falsch. Der sollte wohl "Polizeidienststelle" heissen. Laut https://www.zg.ch/behoerden/sicherheitsdirektion/zuger-polizei/polizeidienststellen gibt es 7 weitere solche. Kannst du diese evtl. nochmals prüfen?