piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
syntex (2020-09-27 23:12:00+00:00): Unfortunately in this changeset you have broken the continuity of the woods relation (7388719). I fixed that, but next time please check the continuity of the relations you edit, especially if the relations are as huge as this one.
GuilhermeSSilva (2020-08-07 19:24:07+00:00): do not need external review, it's allright.
CupIvan (2020-09-15 06:12:16+00:00): пожалуйста, проверяйте ваши вносимые данные, у вас сохранилось некорректное название в имени ">Берёзовка", я это исправил
karson_ (2020-08-07 21:05:39+00:00): I noticed you made a lot of edits to parks in West Liberty. Some of the parks you added weren't on the map before, so nice work! Some of the features that you changed were already mapped with their correct boundaries. If you don't mind I am going to go ahead and clean up what you contributed.
karson_ (2020-08-08 14:03:47+00:00): Paging edgar77rangel... I would appreciate a response here.

What are your intentions with the map? It seems you are making honest effort edits to improve West Liberty?

Some faults I have found with your changes include: 
*descriptive names
*using Bing Imagery instead of Esri Clarity, which is by far the highest quality in West Liberty when zoomed in. 
*modifying recently changed features without contacting the prior mapper
*low quality and not squared buildings
*adding non-existent paths and rivers, they don't appear in the up-to-date National Agriculture Imagery Program (NAIP)
*overlapping roads/paths without connections

I have included the links to 2 guides. I hope you take the time to thoroughly read these guides and browse some of the documentation on the OSM Wiki before contributing further.

https://learnosm.org/en/beginner/id-editor/
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Beginners%27_guide
ruboqif (2026-05-17 16:15:15+00:00): Bonjour,
C'est effectivement sujet à discussion, je n'ai pas d'avis arrêté sur le sujet. De mémoire je m'étais basé sur ce qui est dit dans le wiki OSM : 
"L'important est de préserver la continuité avec le réseau routier environnant pour conserver une cohérence générale. Si une ville de taille moyenne est traversée de part en part par une nationale ou une départementale classée en highway=primary, il faut conserver cette catégorie sur la ou les rues concernées, même si la largeur de la voie est temporairement réduite, en particulier dans le centre historique. "
Mais bon ce n'est peut être pas valable pour les grandes villes avec des contournements comme l'A51 et l'A8 à Aix et peut être que ce texte date date un peu et pourrais être amendé.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Cartographie_des_routes_en_France#Routes_nationales_et_inter-r%C3%A9gionales:~:text=L%27important%20est%20de%20pr%C3%A9server%20la%20continuit%C3%A9%20avec%20le%20r%C3%A9seau%20routier%20environnant%20pour%20conserver%20une%20coh%C3%A9rence%20g%C3%A9n%C3%A9rale.
ruboqif (2026-05-17 16:21:27+00:00): D'une vue plus globale du Pays d'Aix, il y a un gros travail de hiérarchisation à faire c'est certain. Je vois par exemple à l'Ouest la D18 (les milles - Eguilles) qui est en secondary (jaune) sur la partie au sud et en tertiaire (blanc= sur la partie au nord. Alors que le trafic et la géométrie de la route est identique, je l'emprunte régulièrement. 

La D8n est en secondary alors que la D7n est en primary, elles sont toutes les 2 d'anciennes nationales comme leur nom l'indique. Bref beaucoup trucs à revoir partout.
Canard164 (2026-05-17 18:16:46+00:00): Merci de ta réponse. 
Je suis d’accord que le coin mérite une revue plus globale. 
Concernant la D 18, je pense que ce changement était mauvais : https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/168356975
La D 18 est pour moi une voie tertiaire, la route de Galice à l’ouest de la sortie 29 de l’A 8 aussi.
Concernant la D 8 N le changement en voie secondaire ne m’a pas choqué ; c’est une voie qui n’est pas inter-régionale ni nationale, je ne crois pas que ce soit un itinéraire vert…
Concernant les voies primaires du centre-ville, effectivement il y a le contournement qui change la donne selon moi par rapport à ton extrait du wiki. En plus les panneaux de direction incitent à le prendre.

Je suis motivé pour passer du temps à une revue de la hiérarchisation des voies dans le coin. Je pensais commencer par les voies primaires du centre-ville, mais c’est aussi possible de commencer par « le bas » ou selon d’autres critères. Nous pouvons en discuter si tu peux aussi accorder un peu de temps à ce sujet !
FransWillem (2020-08-19 09:20:04+00:00): Subject: Hidden already mapped buildings in iDeditor

Hello. Thank you for mapping out this project.
Due to a problem in iDeditor, many buildings/roads are currently drawn double or triple.
Cause is an error in IDeditor which causes the already drawn buildings to remain invisible.
Note the bottom line in iDeditor. There's a blue field in there that says ... If you have hidden objects, you need to zoom in further. It may happen that the field does not disappear.  Then find another task to work on.

See this picture
![hidden features] (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yoGFziHyq49yKKqKbu81mefyBQZ6TqPH/view?usp=sharing)
FransWillem (2020-08-19 09:22:11+00:00): Hi
Another issue
Most buildings are rectangular..
Please square those with the Q key

Here are some tips and hints which might be helpful to improve your mapping skills

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vT_4K-s7HItsGTDt4dx43C3iD7u5uHtUyvasd_eMUQIq9zWbwlMXQk90jDHcdq6OcOnMc6B1NHYG4cO/pub
Best regards and keep mapping
GinaroZ (2020-08-26 22:53:42+00:00): Hi, welcome to OSM and thanks for your edits.

Assuming there is still access across the bridge - changing it to highway=road is not correct. This was already tagged as a footbridge so I've changed it back to that.

I've also added the bike track here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/841005763 (assuming it is for motocross bikes)

Any questions let me know, cheers.
tms13 (2021-08-04 17:11:19+00:00): Please revert the part of this change that removed paths in Kirkton Woods (specifically, those I added in changeset 52577218).  There was no good reason to delete them.
Edelsalami (2021-08-04 18:11:10+00:00): Hi, it's been some time since I was in the area so I don't recall how it looked exactly, but judging from the imagery I'd say there is nothing left of the paths due to extensive logging. Did you, by any chance, visit it recently?
tms13 (2021-08-05 12:57:59+00:00): The paths were all constructed since the felling; the available aerial photos are all quite old.  They were definitely still present last week when I was there.
Edelsalami (2021-08-05 17:12:19+00:00): Alright, sorry for mistakenly removing the paths. I'll try to figure out how to revert it to the original state. And thanks for making me aware of the issue.
Edelsalami (2021-08-07 06:58:47+00:00): Paths and buildings are back in place.
tms13 (2021-08-08 09:47:24+00:00): Thank you - it looks much closer to the ground-truth now.  BTW, is there a web page with instructions for a resurrection like this (in case I ever need to do the same thing myself)?
Edelsalami (2021-08-08 16:11:50+00:00): I don't know if there's a howto somewhere but I used osmcha.org to find the object/way IDs that were deleted in my changeset and imported their last state into JOSM using its undelete plugin https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/Undelete
Perhaps there is an easier way but it did the job quite nicely. Hope that helps.
user_5359 (2020-08-08 04:24:46+00:00): Hallo! Bitte schau Dir die Relation https://www.osm.org/relation/3009319 an. Dein Editor hat den Schlüssel für das Symbol nicht gesetzt.
mtbbiker99 (2020-09-20 14:34:28+00:00): Bei mir klappt der Schlüssel, siehe Screenshot von mir:
https://i.imgur.com/1Js9lxi.png
user_5359 (2020-09-20 14:37:47+00:00): Kein Wunder, er wurde ja auch im Änderungssatz https://www.osm.org/changeset/89127340 geändert.
mtbbiker99 (2020-09-20 14:42:15+00:00): Verstehe ich jetzt nicht. Dieser Schlüssel ist doch von mir gesetzt worden
osmc:symbol=yellow:yellow:red_triangle:21:red

Ich sehe keine Änderung, oder bin ich blind? was stand denn da vorher?
user_5359 (2020-09-20 14:46:43+00:00): Hallo, sieh Dir bitte nochmal die Historie der Relation an. In Version 53 und 54 existierte das Tag (new tag)=yellow:yellow:black_triangle:21:black.
mtbbiker99 (2020-09-20 14:59:13+00:00): Ok, Danke, Jetzt habe ich den Fehler von mir gesehen. Ich habe schwarz gewählt, obwohl es eine rote Route ist.

Wie kann ich denn die Version 53 bzw. 54 aufrufen?
user_5359 (2020-09-20 15:00:41+00:00): https://www.osm.org/relation/3009319/history
mtbbiker99 (2020-09-20 15:02:33+00:00): ok, gefunden. Danke noch einmal ;-)
ACarlotti (2020-08-08 19:30:40+00:00): You should also add addr:street tags when tagging address (assuming the street name is part of the address - see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr for more details).
Also, if these are semi-detached or terraced houses, then I think a nicer way to map them is to put a node roughly in the middle of each home, and add the address tags to that node. (For a terraced house you can either do each one individually, or do the two ends and use interpolation). There are some good examples of address tagging for a variety of situations if you look at the area around Norfolk Street in Cambridge.
Andy Batey (2020-08-09 13:04:57+00:00): These tags were added through the StreetComplete Android app which adds the addr:street tag as part of a separate changeset (89135019) - which I guess makes sense to them.  The app also only allows housenumbers to be added to defined ways (e.g. 740554832) rather than being able to add nodes to associate the tag with.  I agree that tagging each house separately is better and I'll go back through the OSM web interface to do so and avoid using the app for addresses :-) Thanks, Andy
naveenpf (2020-09-16 01:58:58+00:00): Welcome to OSM India.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India

To join OSM India Telegram click on.
https://t.me/OSMIndia
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Arnaud Champollion (2021-12-28 06:22:28+00:00): Bonjour,
Que signifie "sentier stratégique" ?
S'agit-il du nom de de chemin ?
dvdhoven (2020-08-08 05:56:56+00:00): Ik heb de knooppunten en routes lid gemaakt van Wandelnetwerk Drenthe.

Vriendelijke groeten,
Dick van den Hoven
Roef (2020-08-10 04:52:12+00:00): Had ik later ook al aan zitten denken. Maar is het dan niet beter om ze lid te maken van netwerk Midden-Drenthe? In zuid-oost Drenthe heb je ze ook lid gemaakt van een ander netwerk: Moor-Veenland. En dat deze kleinere netwerken weer deel uitmaken van een netwerk Drenthe? Dat zou meer in overeenstemming zijn met hoe het recreatieschap het zelf op hun website heeft staan: https://www.recreatieschapdrenthe.nl/routebureau/wandelknooppunten-netwerk

Vriendelijke groet,
Roelof
dvdhoven (2020-08-10 07:07:36+00:00): Moor-Veenland is naar mijn idee een vergissing.
Ik wil graag grote netwerken.
Het probleem met netwerken is het feit dat de routes tussen de netwerken als connection moeten worden aangemerkt en dat geeft voortdurend problemen.
Je weet dan niet exact in welk netwerk de route hoort, mappers, die af en toe iets doen, ook niet en beng je hebt weer meldingen in knooppunt.nl Ik ben al met al  vele uren druk geweest om dat soort meldingen op te lossen.
Netwerken zijn in feite overbodig. Een tag in de route en het knooppunt had het werk ook kunnen doen.
En Drenthe is niet zo'n grote provincie, dus graag één netwerk net als Fryslân en Groningen.
Netwerken lid maken van andere netwerken doen we niet en ook dat liever niet.
En verder zijn netwerken puur intern. De gebruikers van OSM zien er niets van, alleen de mappers
En in Drenthe hebben we 1 beheerder, het Recreatieschap

Vriendelijke groeten,
Dick van den Hoven
Roef (2020-08-10 07:16:01+00:00): Dank voor de heldere uitleg! Soms wel fijn om ergens een reden voor te weten.
Ik zal, als ik dit netwerk verder uitbreid, het toevoegen aan netwerk Drenthe.

Groet,
Roelof
DressyPear4 (2020-08-08 15:27:37+00:00): Olá, não remova tag's adicionadas por mapeadores mais experientes.
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Martin Borsje (2020-08-08 14:32:06+00:00): Welkom bij OpenStreetMap. Ik heb een uitgebreid welkomstbericht met wat handige tips en links gestuurd als privébericht.
domi_id (2020-08-08 13:42:15+00:00): Regent's Canal towpath is not a cycle path, it's a joined use pedestrian/cyclist way. Canal cycling FAQ (https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/enjoy-the-waterways/cycling/cycling-faqs) explisitly states that pedestrians have priority and that cyclists should take extra care.
acres1nvented (2020-09-16 11:49:58+00:00): I agree with domi_id; it also specifically states on several entrances to the canal that it is a footpath where considerate cycling is permitted. I suggest that we instead revert to tagging the towpath as highway=footway, bicycle=yes. Thoughts?
alyxtauber (2020-08-10 20:09:21+00:00): #2020AO
ⵣZiri_Atlasⵣ (2025-03-06 11:23:50+00:00): Hi,
Why do you remove the names written in Latin letters and replace them with Arabic names?
UrSuS (2020-11-28 10:16:23+00:00): NEVAJAG DZEST TO KAS BIJA PAREIZI IZVEIDOTS!!!
user_5359 (2020-08-08 05:48:35+00:00): Welcome to OSM! An the type of the business is a shop http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Key:shop or office http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Key:office or a craft http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Key:craft ?
mariotomo (2020-08-11 19:42:00+00:00): are you visiting the country?  or where do you get this information from?  you can't possibly extract names from Maxar Premium, can you?
Supaplex (2021-04-16 13:10:36+00:00): 您好：

歡迎加入開放街圖，群眾共同參與，繪製生活週遭大家關心事物的共編地圖。
台灣的標示依循準則可參考 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Taiwan
常見的圖徵標示方式可參考 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Zh-hant:Map_Features
給Pokemon Go玩家的建議：https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tips_for_new_(Pokemon_Go)_mappers
組織性編輯指南：https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines

下面是台灣社群相關的網站，可以加入彼此切磋切磋！

https://www.osm.org or https://osm.org
常用圖徵(Map Features)表 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Zh-hant:Map_Features
給Pokemon Go玩家的建議：https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tips_for_new_(Pokemon_Go)_mappers
組織性編輯指南：https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines
國內網站與協作：
OSM.TW https://osm.tw/
臉書粉絲頁OpenStreetMap台灣 https://www.facebook.com/openstreetmaptaiwan/
OSMWiki Project Taiwan https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Taiwan
Hackpad https://osmtw.hackpad.tw/
Trello https://trello.com/osmtw
GitHub https://github.com/OsmHackTW
與社群交流：
台灣開放街圖 社群組織理事會 信箱 hiboard@openstreetmap.tw
Facebook 社團 https://www.facebook.com/groups/OpenStreetMap.TW/
郵件論壇 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tw
Slack https://osm-tw.signup.team/
Telegram OpenStreetMap Taiwan https://t.me/joinchat/Aqu2IgnTuIidMfREdNmomQ
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敬祝畫圖愉快！
ACarlotti (2020-08-08 19:12:04+00:00): These are not housenumbers, so should not be tagged with addr:housenumber. I think this needs to reverted. (The added data seems to just be duplicating existing data, sometimes even duplicating the name of a different building.)
Have you made any other changes like this?
Andy Batey (2020-08-09 13:54:11+00:00): As with the other changeset, this was due to limitations in the StreetComplete app which populates the addr:housenumber field.  Reverted those.  Found incorrect entries for the names of two buildings - transposed - so corrected.
Thanks, Andy
habi (2020-08-24 14:18:29+00:00): I can't see https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/835135098 on any of the available imagery layers (here in iD).
I removed it with changeset https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/89863464 , OK?
FransWillem (2020-08-25 08:59:29+00:00): Thank you for mapping on this project.
Your mappings are not always correct. I know it is difficult to recognize buildings, courtyards etc. Building up experience takes time.
Most buildings here are rectangular. Please square each of them with the Q key in the editor

Here are some tips and hints which might be helpful to improve your mapping skills

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vT_4K-s7HItsGTDt4dx43C3iD7u5uHtUyvasd_eMUQIq9zWbwlMXQk90jDHcdq6OcOnMc6B1NHYG4cO/pub
Best regards and keep mapping
Frans S (2020-08-09 11:02:59+00:00): Hello. Thanks for mapping here>
you mapped a cluster of buildings as being 1 building. sorry. Each building needs to be mapped individually
I invalidate this task
best regards
JandaM (2020-10-06 05:35:21+00:00): Dobry den,
  prosim nepouzivejte BING jako podklady pro mapovani. Jsou posunute nekdy i o vice nez 10m. Jedna se o dalsi pomstu poslecnosti M$. Dekuji M
Tomsn16 (2020-10-06 12:53:23+00:00): Zdravím, to je úžasné zjištění po x,y upravách co jsem provedl :D
JandaM (2020-10-07 06:05:41+00:00): Dobry den, jedna se o nahodu ze jsem ten problem objevil behem bezne editace. V CR z RUIANu je cca 4M budov a cca 6200 obci. Divim se ze po x, y upravach jste sam neprisel na to ze BING nesedi kdyz je spousta jinych budov :-)
  M
Tomsn16 (2020-10-07 13:23:38+00:00): Vzhledem k tomu že OSM při kliknutí na tlačítko upravit nahodí BING tak jsem nepředpokládal že to mají posunuté a prostě jsem editoval :D a myslel jsem že jsou jen zle posunuté ty značky
camelCaseNick (2020-08-08 20:40:35+00:00): Hey,
could you please have a look at https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/835138366? Did you mean landuse=landfill?
Thanks!
CamelCaseNick
WoodWoseWulf (2020-08-08 06:58:19+00:00): Looks like they've been at it again. Happy to help clean up if you'd like, but don't want to get it your way.
If they persist, this one might be DWG worthy.
WoodWoseWulf (2020-08-08 06:58:29+00:00): in*
karson_ (2020-08-08 14:18:59+00:00): It seems the user really wants to contribute in the area. I saw they were busy in the middle of the night adding and changing things. I also noticed you flagged a lot of their edits on osmcha.

I made another comment on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/89106469 which they will hopefully read. 

I'm not going to repair things since I suspect they will make more edits today. Maybe once they cool down I'll try to swing by and fix the area up.
WoodWoseWulf (2020-08-14 00:23:52+00:00): Any luck with making contact?
I see they've been back at it again, deleting schools and changing golf courses to parks.
SomeoneElse_Revert (2020-09-23 14:34:34+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 91371619, 91373494, 91364469, 91369701 where the changeset comment is: Reverting some edits in Penicuik that were made using an inappropriate source (at the request of the user)
SekeRob (2020-09-23 11:23:46+00:00): From your note, kindly look at this change set on one small section https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit#map=18/42.30576/14.45057 to which I added/changed the 12 tags that I found relating to the one you referred. What's thick as mud is, how the relation is added, the impression being that if you add just that, all the 12 tags get added, but educate me on that if you will.. 

I note the complete absence of technical information on that Benedetto section https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?relation=1401870#map=17/42.98218/13.87350, no width, no colour, no pavement, shared, segregated et, all documented from 3 full day visits along the full extend in Abruzzo, go pro is great for that. Certainly, with the actual official signs put out in places in Abruzzo, I'm surprised that Bicitalia is not up to snuff with their 'operator' and not done the OSM updating work....Drawing a line on a map is easy. I've found hundreds upon hundreds of those, with the result that if I use the tour cycle routing software I'm finding myself either just peddling along the SS16 or SS5 or on a 30 degree uphill MTB track. At least now I got it in a state that that if I plan Pescara- Punta Penna, 95-98% actually does use the intended track, and that's 65km one way. Started doing this some month ago so surely I'm missing a lot.

cheers
SekeRob (2020-09-23 13:04:29+00:00): Errata: Following the Bicitalia site route, notice that though some sections are marked as being part of the BI-6 route, there's no relation registered in OSM.

The wiki referred with both ICN/NCN numbers is: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Italy/Ciclovie . It stands to reason that if BI-6 is extended, EV8 would follow suite, but given the Bicitalia site draws the BI-6 track all the way from Trieste to Santa Maria di Leuca way down south one would follow the other and the 'currency' of OSM is just way behind.
I prefer you show me in the linked map what's right and wrong in tags and to set up the relation. Got time on my hand and rode the subject track plus Pescara - Giulianova 3 times out and in i.e. seen it 6 times.
SekeRob (2020-09-23 13:06:20+00:00): Just since June 3, that famous day now we could go outside of our street.
sorcrosc (2020-09-23 13:49:58+00:00): In this changeset I added some ways to the relation because they previously had the name "Ciclovia Adriatica" (which I removed) and there are news that this is part of BI-6. The mapped details are scarce and it would be nice if there was someone locally to map them but the path is visible from the photos. However, if you know this is the wrong route of BI-6 it can be corrected.
tkk (2020-08-10 08:47:11+00:00): Zdravim, doplnoval jste objekty u nadrazi ve Stramberku. Pridal jste i turisticky rozcestnik bez dalsich detaily, pricemz kompletni rozcestnik, dle fotek na miste dostupny minimalne jeste 2020.04 je o par metru dal. Mate nejakou fotku z mista, jak to tak aktualne vypada?

Dekuji tom.k
Richard Janda (2020-08-10 09:14:04+00:00): Mnou přidaný rozcestník tu opravdu je a také se jedná o ten městský. Nedaleký turistický rozcestník od KČT jsem nenavštívil, nevím, zda tu je. Mám příště přidávat nějaký popis nebo to nějak upravit? Nebo sem patří jen ty od KČT? Foto je zde: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2xnqtqlcf6z2x80/IMG_8795.JPG?dl=0
tkk (2020-08-10 09:59:09+00:00): Diky za info a specialne za fotku. Pokud by jste rozcestniky, informacni cedule, mapy pripadne body zachrnay fotil, zvazte jejich nahrani na webu https://openstreetmap.cz/#map=19/48.99490/14.76984&layers=dGB do nastroje Fody, kde se pak pouzivaji prave pro kontrolu a doplnovani dat v OSM. Vice viz. https://osm.fit.vutbr.cz/fody/, https://openstreetmap.cz/git/tom.k/Fody/wiki/, https://openstreetmap.cz/git/tom.k/Fody/wiki/.

Zkusil jsem v OSM obe mista trochu vylepsit, muzete na to klidne mrknout pro inspiraci. Nekdy se tyto "ukazatele" mapuji, nejde ale o klasicke turisticke rozcestniky, takze je to vhodne delat trochu s citem.

Pekny den. tom.k
Martin Borsje (2020-08-08 14:31:39+00:00): Welkom bij OpenStreetMap. Ik heb een uitgebreid welkomstbericht met wat handige tips en links gestuurd als privébericht.
SHARCRASH (2020-09-22 13:06:22+00:00): Hello! Are you sure this way https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/29975902 is not rather a service road instead of the unmaintained "track grade1"? It was rather well maintained some years ago. Also the castle Schüttbuerg is inhabited and there is no parking spot for the residents before that way, so logically the way should be well enough accessible and is rather a service road (but not a driveway since there are still other ways connected after it).
jeroenrozema74 (2020-09-22 15:26:02+00:00): Hello,
Yes, I was there recently in August 2020 and there was no asphalted way there. I even think it should be mapped as a grade 2 or 3 track.  I also took a photo of the way, but I can't sent it here unfortunally. Do you know a way how to send you this photo?