piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
streckenkundler (2022-02-20 20:41:42+00:00): Hei,

ich antworte auf die PN besser im CS...

Der OSM-Datentyp Multipolygon funktioniert nur so, wenn damit Flächenbeziehungen dargestellt werden sollen, also inner vs outer. Einfachstes Beispiel ist ein See im Wald: See bekommt immer, Wald das outer. Der OSM-Datentyp Multipolygon funktioniert nicht bei dem Willen, alle Elemente die, wie hier zu einem Moor (=hier Springbruch) gehören, zusammenzufassen.  Für mich ist das auch bisher ein stückweit unbefriedigend... eine richtige fundierte Idee zur Lösung habe ich aber leider auch nicht...

Eine meiner OverpassTurbo-Abfragen filtert alle Objekte von Typ Multipolygon heraus, die mehr als 1 Segment mit der Rolle outer haben. Diese Konstrukte sind überwiegend ersetzbar. Es gibt aber Ausnahmen: Das Outer der Insel im Senftenberger See: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5517607 muß in mindestens 2 Segmenten erfasst werden, da es sonst als 1 Segment >2000 Stützpunkte hat, das ist eine OSM-technische Grenze...

Was den Bredower Forst anbelangt, hat dieses MP noch immer 7 Outer: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1giI

Aber mit dem Proposal https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/boundary%3Dforest(_compartment)_relations_(v3)#Proposed_tagging_changes böte sich zu mindestens da die Gelegenheit, daß mit type=boundary + boundary=forest + name=Bredower Forst zu erfassen.

Fürs Springbruch wäre auch sowas wie eine einfache Umgrenzungslinie mit place=locality plus vielleicht locality=* disskussionswürdig...

Sven
dx125 (2022-02-23 10:18:29+00:00): Man könnte nochmal eine Umgrenzungslinie außen herum ziehen, welche zu den jetzigen Springbruch - Teilflächen einen geringen Abstand hat, aber ohne Berührungspunkte.
Diese neue Umgrenzungslinie als natural:wetland + name:Springbruch taggen. 
Dann die jetzt vorhandenen Teilflächen als inner und die neue Außenlinie als outer des Multipolygon definieren. Liegen Teilflächen des Springbruch inselartig in größeren Teilflächen, sind diese als untergeordnete MP zu bearbeiten.
Das ist sicher machbar, aber Nur mit JOSM.
Wenn gewünscht, kann ich das machen.
kapazao (2022-02-17 13:35:52+00:00): Buenas, revisa la etiqueta highway=corridor (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Tag:highway=corridor) por si ayuda a resolver la duda.
En principio si es una calle peatonal (suele tener nombre) sería como highway=pedestrian + tunnel=building_passage, sino es más bien lo dicho anteriormente.
Un saludo
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BCNorwich (2022-02-17 09:35:31+00:00): I've reinstated the service road as it's a genuine feature seen on imagery. If you know that it is private and not accessible to the public you could tag as such.

Regards Bernard.
gscscnd (2022-02-17 10:40:58+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/455111546 — porównaj name i official_name.
Josef73 (2023-02-01 20:23:29+00:00): Hello, can you check the value of the tag opening_hours? On Wednesday is open until 5pm or 9 pm? Thanks.
Leo Slager (2022-02-15 23:12:13+00:00): https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Drest_area
Het is dus geen rest_area.
ik pas het even aan.
Blauwdruk (2022-02-16 04:52:24+00:00): Dank je. Idd niet aan snelweg.
MxxCon (2022-02-16 01:56:56+00:00): Hello.
This edit doesn't seem to be accurate considering in most of those areas it's retail/commercial on the first floor and multi-story residential above them. A good example of retail landuse would be malls..
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aapeliv (2022-02-16 02:01:35+00:00): Okay, fair enough, I was a bit iffy on this as well. I'll delete them.

Is there some other way I can indicate that these are somehow retail areas?
MxxCon (2022-02-16 02:10:11+00:00): In *my* opinion it's best to just map businesses themselves directly since that would give the most detail and let data consumers figure out how to display such areas, like heat-maps or however else..
whb (2022-02-17 20:55:30+00:00): Hallo,

bitte der Schule nicht einfach ersatzlos amenity=school wegnehmen, denn dann ist es keine Schule mehr. amenity=school wieder hinzugefügt.
steffen_hd (2022-02-17 22:32:01+00:00): Ups, das war nicht meine Absicht. Hier ist nun aber so ein Fall, wo das Gebäude als "School Grounds" klassifiziert ist, was sicherlich nicht richtig ist, weil das Grundstück zumindest die Mensa der Grundschule und wohl auch die Sporthalle umfasst. Als ich das Gebäude auf "School Building" umgestellt habe, muss etwas schiefgegangen sein.
highflyer74 (2022-02-18 10:16:27+00:00): Hallo zusammen! Bin gerade zufällig über eure Diskussion gestolpert. @whb hat Recht: amenity=school ist nötig, um eine einzelne Schule als Schule zu erfassen. Die Art des Gebäudes ist davon unabhängig. Was viele nicht wissen: es gibt seit einiger Zeit landuse=education (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Deducation), was das Mappen von Bildungseinrichtungen vereinfacht, da man die einzelnen Schulen / Kindergärten auf einem Gelände einzeln per Node erfassen kann und das Landuse diese Daten nicht aufnehmen muss. Viele Grüße!
steffen_hd (2022-02-18 10:47:03+00:00): Hallo, ja, landuse=education kenne ich und habe es auch schon mehrfach angewendet, um das Gelände zu markieren, auf dem sich mehrere Schulen befinden, in Heidelberg z.B. in Wieblingen und in der Südstadt. Bei dem Beispiel in der Bahnstadt bringt das wohl nichts.
InsertUser (2022-02-16 10:16:08+00:00): Which imagery shows this? Looks like water in the one I'm seeing.
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Land-o Calrissian (2022-02-16 23:50:04+00:00): Hi InsertUser, thanks for your feedback.  Both Mapbox Satellite and Esri World Imagery (Clarity) Beta do in fact show what looks like water between 2 docks at this location.  However, Bing aerial imagery and Maxar Premium Imagery (Maxar of which tends to be the most recent) show development where it looks like the 2 docks have been fused into a single, larger dock.  This development appears to include a building.  I'm admittedly a bit uncertain about whether it's a building; it could be a collection of cargo containers.  I added the feature based on Maxar Premium Imagery.  If you or someone with local knowledge has more complete/accurate data for this location/feature, I welcome any corrections.
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kapazao (2022-02-17 13:31:36+00:00): Hi, why did you remove these stairs? if they are private only add the key access=private.
Regards
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bhietsch (2022-02-16 19:03:47+00:00): Welcome to OSM! You are correct that the Bing aerial photos are a little bit dated and do not accurately show the new Chemical and Biomedical Engineering Building. However, the previous edits in this area were done using PEMA imagery and are much more precise than the edits you've made. Please try to check multiple imagery sources before undoing other people's work.
muralito (2022-02-17 02:49:22+00:00): Hi. ¿Are you sure? It wasnt one way a few months ago...
jedimasterflint (2022-02-17 16:52:45+00:00): Heyo! Thank you for reaching out to me about this! Upon review i realized i had had missed a few cars in Esri Imagery. I thought i had seen all of them heading to the north east which is why i had added a one way. But now I see there a few cars heading to the South West so i removed the oneway tag I added! Thank you again! :)
praeteritum (2023-05-19 05:56:29+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 136281898.
praeteritum (2023-05-17 05:59:15+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 136194564.
praeteritum (2023-05-16 07:13:20+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 136153612.
MikeN (2022-02-16 03:27:09+00:00): Please use meaningful changeset comments - “.” does not help other mappers understand what you are doing. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_changeset_comments
praeteritum (2023-05-14 00:37:02+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 136069987.
Rogoyski (2022-06-05 19:04:31+00:00): To teraz ja ;) 
Czemu Muzeum Katyńskie zaznaczyłeś w miejscu (z braku lepszego określenia) symbolicznej grupy drzew w kwadracie?
Po drugie, czy nie lepiej fragmentów Cytadeli koło X Pawilonu, które są ogólnodostępne wyłączyć z obszaru landuse=military?
syntex (2022-06-05 22:10:09+00:00): Nie ja zaznaczyłem, już tam było wcześniej. A co do landuse military to nie mam pojęcia. Nie wiem czy to w ogóle jest zasadne, bo to chyba nie jest już w żadnym stopniu obszar używany przez wojsko? Zresztą teraz i tak trwa przebudowa. Nie sprawdzałem co dokładnie jest dostępne dla zwiedzających a co nie.
Rogoyski (2022-06-06 18:03:47+00:00): Częściowo, po stronie zachodniej i południowej, wciąż jest wojsko. Poza placem budowy muzeów jest kawałek wokół X Pawilonu (Czujna/Trojaka/Skazańców), gdzie od dekad można wejść. Od niedawna jest Muzeum Katyńskie, ale nie wiem, jak jest ono oddzielone od części wojskowej. Landuse=military zachowałbym dla części niedostępnej dla postronnych i niebędącej placem budowy.

Co do lokalizacji Muzeum Katyńskiego, to przepraszam, nie wiem, jak to sprawdzałem. Ono mieści się w kaponierze pierwszego bastionu i byłem przekonany, że już było tam oznaczone. Wygląda na to, że jednak nie.

Jest więc kolejny większy temat do opracowania.
Lyon-St-Clair (2022-02-16 20:46:29+00:00): Please, putting "highway=busway" is a very bad idea, it breaks the renders and appears as "Undefined" in the editor. It's note the first time so stop it please.
Lyon-St-Clair (2022-02-16 20:48:17+00:00): PS : As it is mentioned in the Wiki, for the moment the standard layer does not render it. So when time comed, it will not be a problem anymore.
Lyon-St-Clair (2022-02-16 20:50:29+00:00): PS: In the wiki this tag is for BRT (BHNS in french) systems, not standard bus lines. Or at the moment Luxembourg doesn't have BRTs system.
vlakos555 (2022-02-16 04:14:55+00:00): názov napísaný na stojane je všade "alzaBox"
aceman444 (2022-02-16 12:17:05+00:00): Cize s malym 'a'? Samotna Alza si to pise halabala, napr. https://www.alza.sk/alzabox-bratislava-petrzalka-(petrzalska-trznica)-153704-ps.htm . Dobre, mozeme to zjednotit na male.
vlakos555 (2022-02-16 17:32:40+00:00): Môžete zjednotiť . Jedine vy.
georift (2022-07-24 09:49:14+00:00): Hey nice block you've mapped here! Love seeing little isolated blocks starting to grow detail.

I see you're using ID editor. If you want to do more building the JOSM editor with the buildings plugin can make it easier to smash out some building quickly.

Although the ones you've mapped here are already super quality.

We have a local community slack channel you can join if you'd like to talk to some local mappers. https://geogeeks.org/
nevw (2022-02-16 03:10:28+00:00): Hi
There is a source:name tag associated with the way. You need to change it to the source you used or delete  the tag if you are using a different source for the name.
praeteritum (2023-05-13 04:54:38+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 136040518.
praeteritum (2023-05-13 04:41:19+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 136040425.
praeteritum (2023-05-12 07:06:01+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 136004101.
praeteritum (2023-05-12 07:00:57+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 136004064.
praeteritum (2023-05-11 06:47:16+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 135962371.
praeteritum (2023-05-11 06:46:44+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 135962347.
praeteritum (2023-05-11 06:46:26+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 135962338.
Frans S (2022-02-28 09:27:49+00:00): Thanks for your contribution to this project. 
Reviewed by a validator at random or as requested. 
Your mappings are not  mapped and tagged in according to the HOT/ OSM quality standards.
Please pay attention on these points:
This is a building/highway project. Please focus on these subjects. 
Don't add generic names to objects.
From the Imagery you cannot conclude a building is a garage, as you tagged it.
For HOTOSM projects the standard tagging is 'building=yes' Please keep that in mind at further mappings.


Explanation can be found on this document what  might be helpful to improve your mapping skills
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Swwz-ZwM3_YOstqstsmCg1-lNAPbnMLpi1Al-h-2UOQ/edit


Best regards and keep mapping !
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Spaghetti Monster🍝 (2022-02-22 07:02:50+00:00): Please don't map other objects as paths
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nevw (2022-02-16 07:31:59+00:00): Hi
We do not have permission to use Google satellite or street view imagery for mapping the OSM. Please only use the available imagery provided in Josm imagery preferences. Currently, the latest for the area is likely to be Bing and Maxar.
dpeel (2022-02-16 07:46:00+00:00): ok, I might be able to find a better source. Does this mean the change has not been applied to OSM yet?
nevw (2022-02-16 08:24:53+00:00): Changes are applied to the database immediately but the rendered map using the data takes longer depending on the map provider. I would assume there is no need to revert the changes you have made if you can visually confirm your changes using the imagery provided in Josm. The tracks should be well depicted I expect.
Patr1k_P (2022-02-16 09:14:42+00:00): Ten link ma obrázok však nefunguje
marczoutendijk (2024-03-24 10:12:50+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1031892074
service=]
What do you mean with that?

Marc Zoutendijk  
OpenStreetMap Foundation  
Data Working Group
AgusQui (2022-06-18 00:30:02+00:00): Estaciones abandonadas no deben estar con railway=station ni mucho menos public_transport, por favor ver: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/AgusQui/diary/396933
Dimacn (2022-02-16 06:02:58+00:00): Не надо добавлять новые дороги поверх существующих. Вы же дублируете их. Нужно редактировать геометрию и изменять свойства существующих дорог если они неправильные. Пожалуйста удалите новый дубль.
Supaplex (2022-02-16 06:27:01+00:00): Hi tomekem_osm,

Could you talk to the local community first about your edit? It might cause problems due to Taiwan English road signs might not be grammatically correct if you oberserve on-site.
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Dimacn (2022-02-16 07:21:19+00:00): Пожалуйста, присоединяйте дороги к остальной сети дорог хотя бы одним концом. Иначе навигация по этой дороге будет невозможна.
osmviborg (2022-02-16 06:43:33+00:00): Cykelstien er tagget på Ishøj Strandvej som 'cycleway:right=track'. Rettet.
mavl (2022-05-20 15:36:34+00:00): This changeset was redacted. Reason: an incompatible source.
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archie (2022-02-16 06:43:31+00:00): @NKA
After survey on ground I could not find any hints of the value for the name-tag you inserted in this changeset. I could not find any possible means of this charging station to recieve letters (no post box no person). 
So why and on what grounds did you insert the name-tag and later on the addr-tags? Obviously you did not check the correctness on ground. With other words your changes could not be verified on ground. I would like to remind you of the basic principles for editing on osm (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/How_We_Map). Especially the points about "trouthfullness" - that is not to invent anything and inserting into osm (ex names). But also the point of verifiablety. 
The insertion of "Tesla" by you in the name-tag could furthermore be interpreted as brand placement. 
What met me on place was parking spaces with a couple of electrical outputs designed for charging car-batteries. Nothing gandious. 
As must be expected this lack of name and address most probably applies to the other charging stations which you altered in this changset (https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/117361552). Or did you check this on ground? So I ask you hereby to revert this changeset.  Thank you in advance.
NKA (2022-02-16 07:30:05+00:00): Please let us have the discussion in the other changeset.

Furthermore, it is bad practice to revert in the middle of a discussion.

Here is what you call "a couple of electrical outputs": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_aTV3E9d54

I did not introduce the name. That was done in earlier changesets by other users. And there are many Tesla signs at the location. The  name is not invented - it is the official Tesla station name.

I do not care about the address tags. I reintroduced them from an earlier version because another user asked for them.

I will not reply further here, but in the other changeset.
archie (2022-02-16 07:39:43+00:00): As I wrote, in contrast to you, I have been at this place. I can verify lots of parking spaces and some electrical outlets. 
You did a revert regarding the addr-tags in the middle of this discussion. Why then and not now?
Gazer75 (2022-02-16 09:41:01+00:00): And what do you think happens if a user searches for Tesla chargers in the navigation in the car or app? They will just get a long list of Tesla Supercharger and nothing more. How is the user supposed to figure out where they are unless they check each one?

The silly on the ground rule is fine for some things, but to be able to get a meaningful search result when navigating the name field need to be more descriptive.

AFAIK Tesla themselves use the location in the name if you search in the navigation system, so why not OSM?
archie (2022-02-16 10:03:30+00:00): Because osm-tagging differs from GoogleMap-tagging. The other day I had contact w a new mapper who was mapping a camp site. I explained to him/her why tagging a building w name-tag-value  "Serivcehus" is more paper-maps or GoogleMaps tagging and that the osm-way of tagging was by tagging building=service + amenity=toilets etc. It is because of this that osm-tagging is far better. It tells you more about things than just having this in the name-tag like in Google och papermaps.
Gazer75 (2022-02-16 10:10:46+00:00): Did you even read what I wrote?

If the name field only contains "Tesla Supercharger" for all superchargers then a search in navigation will only show a list with that, nothing else.
You probably also get the distance to that location, but nothing more.
So my question is, how do you know what charger is where?
archie (2022-02-16 10:13:08+00:00): "name field need to be more descriptive." As I explained in the  example above the osm-way of tagging is far more descriptive. The information I get from the osm-tagging tells me more about this object than the Googlemap-tagging in name-field "Servicehus". So the on the on the ground rule is silly and should not get into conflict with the norwegian namegiving authority? Is this what you are saying?
archie (2022-02-16 10:17:14+00:00): "Tesla Supercharger" tagged as name? That's the contrary to what I said. Tesla Supercharger is a brandname (look it up at wikidata, you will see). Osm has a special tag for this "brand".
Gazer75 (2022-02-16 10:20:05+00:00): Why are you talking about a building?
That is totally different.

I'm talking names of chargers and shops/fuel stations that have locations all over the place.

If you only put name=St1 in all fuel stations then a search for fuel will return a long list of St1 and nothing else.
How do I know which one it is near Kungãlv when there are like 4 around the area with the same name?
archie (2022-02-16 10:29:35+00:00): In order to achive this the osm-tagging schema should be droppet and made Googlemaps like?
Gazer75 (2022-02-16 10:31:43+00:00): In order for the OSM database to be usable we can't do weird things like leave name= blank because we move "Tesla Superchager" to the brand=. Do that and you can't search for the charger at all in navigation systems in cars or phone apps.
archie (2022-02-16 10:37:24+00:00): Then it's really about wheather to adhere to the osm-tagging schema or to make tagging for developer's of apps. Personally I like the osm-way better. "leave name=blank", well when there is no name you have either the choice of leaving name blank or to invent a phonyname/pseudoname.
Gazer75 (2022-02-16 10:42:43+00:00): No invention needed. Simply use the name the chain uses in its database and/or maps. Those tend to be quite descriptive and good.

Tbh I don't care what you do in Sweden as I'm not going there anytime soon. But good to know I should use Google instead if going there :P

At least we got a good naming system here in Norway that works well with all car navigation systems and apps.

I'm not going to continue this discussion as I've already made my point.
archie (2022-02-16 11:03:27+00:00): Yes I agree with you the geographical references are quite descripive and good but they are not names but references to some geographical surroundings. Modern enterpises don't spend time on  giving names to things, they know there are coordinates and geodatabases and ref-numbers.
Mathias Haugsbø (2022-02-17 17:32:20+00:00): Modern enterprises give names to all their locations Archie, that is how they communicate what location they are talking about.

Adding name="Servicehus" makes perfectly sense if this is what the inhabitants of the campground commonly name that building. Google Maps knows perfectly well what type of building each is and what POIs are inside that building. -> Google maps does not have a flat structure for tagging only in names. They tag just the same as we do in OSM.

As long as a place, POI, building, area or whatever is commonly refered by a name it should have name="xxx" in OSM as well.

"Let's meet at the atm next to the Coop" => Don't add name field

"Meet me at Tesla Supercharger Maurset" -> Add name tag as that place definately has a name which is used to reference to this place. 

"Only map what is visible on ground" removes lots and lots of useful information which reduces the usefulness of OpenStreetMap.
- The name tag is the only proper widely used, understood and accepted method of naming known locations which people use in daily language.
NKA (2022-02-17 18:40:52+00:00): @archie: I ser nå at du kan ha misforstått "on the ground" regelen. Det er intet krav i OSM om at navnet må stå på et skilt på bakken for å komme med i name=*. Om det hadde vært regelen så kunne vi ikke tagget name=* for en fjelltopp eller en innsjø uten at det står et skilt der. Navn fra åpne og allmenne kilder (i dette tilfellet eieren Tesla) er akseptert og lar seg verifisere. Derimot nevnes det ofte som eksempel at dersom et gatenavn er stavet på én måte i et offentlig kart og på en annen måte på det fysiske skiltet i gaten, så er det skiltet på bakken som gjelder (men et slikt tilfelle har vi ikke her).
Warin61 (2022-05-22 01:50:39+00:00): Hi,
A 'pitch is a playing area of the sport, it does not include the supporting buildings, roads etc - those form the landuse=recreation ground. Way: 35090207 returned to rec. ground.
Spaghetti Monster🍝 (2022-02-20 17:44:19+00:00): Would it be possible to share a source so that reviewers can verify deletions?
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