piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
foe05 (2022-10-26 06:07:10+00:00): Moin Peter.

Ich dachte, ich hätte die Änderungen zur neuen 8 wieder rückgängig gemacht: die alte 8 ist richtig. Meine Änderungen nicht. Die neue 8 ist ein Gästehaus/Schuppen zur 8.

Merci
Johannes
Map-Peter (2022-10-27 21:56:07+00:00): Den Bezug zur Adresse mappt man so:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/705498236/history
siehe dazu:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:object
eggie (2022-10-25 10:56:12+00:00): Beste Rbird...  Svp niets aan gebouwen veranderen. Het is import vanuit het Kadaster. Er horen geen adresgegevens op degbeouwomtrekken en ook geen namen die de fuvtie aanduiden.
Duis niet naam-Aanbouw.. Net zo min als je zegt name= Huis en name=Bankje.

MVG
eggie
Rbird7 (2022-10-25 11:01:06+00:00): Ok. Thx. Voor de moderatie. Wist dit niet. Ik probeer hoogte info toe te voegen voor shadowmap.org. Dat mag toch wel?
eggie (2022-10-25 11:03:19+00:00): Tuurlijk.....  Je kunt ook gewoon 3dmappen.

Zo'n aparte garage kun je dan intekenen op het gebouw zelf als building:part=garage en dan zet je daar de hoogtes op.
building:part= rendert dan niet, maar het gehele gebouw wel. In 3d werkt het ook. 

Succes
eggie
eggie (2022-10-25 11:04:19+00:00): https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/3D
eggie (2022-10-25 11:06:13+00:00): https://demo.f4map.com/#lat=51.1587109&lon=6.0223955&zoom=19
eggie (2022-10-25 11:07:21+00:00): Dus name=Huis nog even verwijderen
Die zie je nu ook in F4 staan.
Warin61 (2022-10-26 23:50:56+00:00): Hi
This changeset has be partially reverted to restore the Tutanning Nature Reserve relation. 

This means that way 963923959 has been restore to its previous location and that the tag highway=track has been removed from it. This way is the boundary for the Nature Reserve. It is not a track over its entire length. 

Suggestion? Map the track as a new way without using the existing way?
Foxydoug (2022-10-27 02:51:59+00:00): Hi thanks for the information I can now see the Pingelly shire uncleared road? I must admit that I find these closed roads to be very confusing when I use Openstreetmap as a source of information when the photo view is unavailable. Is it possible to add a label 'closed road'? The road will never be cleared.
Warin61 (2022-10-27 06:52:32+00:00): ??? 'uncleared road' means what? 

It was never made or has been demolished? 

tag it with a 'life cycle prefix' ..

See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lifecycle_prefix
Foxydoug (2022-10-27 07:00:29+00:00): It is a surveyed road which has and never will be made as is in the reserve and leads nowhere. Unfortunately my mapping skills are insufficient. Thanks for your forbearance
Warin61 (2022-10-27 07:20:05+00:00): Ok, not mapping skills but tagging ... the OSM wiki is your friend. 
Use the page 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lifecycle_prefix

See under proposed: .. high likelihood of being constructed .. it fails that test .. so it should not be mapped ... contact the mapper and let them know.. wait a while (at least 2 weeks) if no response .. just delete it. 

That OSM page has a search box at the top right .. use that to find stuff. 

Good Luck.
Warin61 (2022-10-27 07:22:04+00:00): >s> they can only complain if you delete it .. then you point to the lack of communication ..  and that the thing will never  be built. Don't be afraid of getting into trouble.. just be fair and you'll be fine.
Foxydoug (2022-10-27 08:32:37+00:00): It appears to be part of a dataset 
source geometry CAPAD2020.Who would be the mapper? I see little chance of any reponse from a government department having worked in one before I retired.
Warin61 (2022-10-28 05:55:34+00:00): That data set has no road information... 
Someone has linked a road to It? 
Can you tell me where it is? 
Use the map and pan around (you can zoom in/out) then zoom in and use the '?" button on the lower right of the page and click on it to get the thing your interested in ..  Open this webpage
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/963923971

Here you can see the boundary was entered by 'TheSwavu'.
Foxydoug (2022-10-28 09:13:56+00:00): The area is -32.554395° 117.320466°
Thanks for the tip, my education continues. I would be grateful if you could contact TheSwavu to remove the road boundary as you know the tag requirements? Thanks
nevw (2022-10-28 10:58:03+00:00): Hi Foxydoug
I am a bit confused by what you mean.
See image: https://postimg.cc/rzYf5VSY
The coordinates you gave point to the end of the red arrow in the bottom of the image. The green line depicts the boundary of the wooded area. The only track here is the one named Kangaroo and a road named Access to Percy...
The dashed orange line is the boundary of the Tutanning Nature Reserve.
Do you mean the section of the Reserve boundary where I have drawn the blue line?
I don't know why the Reserve boundary does not include that strip. Many nature reserves and similar natural reserved area boundaries to have similar excluded strips. 
My guess is that it maybe a reserve for future road or transmission lines or pipelines, etc.

Is this is the section you think should be deleted as you feel a previously planned road will never be built here?

We have mapped all the Gazetted natural areas from datasets supplied by the relevant Govt Departments 
( Like CAPAD and others...
https://www.dcceew.gov.au/environment/land/nrs/science/capad  )
and we would leave the boundaries as gazetted. 
These are updated on a semi regular basis and we would update the boundaries when they are changed by the dept responsible with a new release of the dataset.

Does that help to answer your query?
nevw (2022-10-28 11:09:13+00:00): Here is the area with aerial imagery
https://postimg.cc/kRMc35kK
Note that no track is mapped along that strip. It is just the boundary of the reserve as currently gazetted in parliament.
Foxydoug (2022-10-29 06:55:09+00:00): Yes it is around the blue line you drew. Thanks I understand now why it has been drawn there. As an unsophisticated Openstreetmap user I find a feature such as this to be confusing as it indicates a mapping artifact rather than a real feature, but that is my problem. It would be nice to be able to switch to a photographic view  but no doubt there is a reason against this.
Warin61 (2022-10-29 08:01:44+00:00): The area could be a legal easement for something.. road, electricity line, gas line .. even an old stock route.. 
There is no road there.. 

In id you should be able to select various satellite imagery as a background .. is that what you mean by 'photographic view'?  This image is a 'map rendering' .. and it is the 'standard OSM map' https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/128033403#map=19/-32.5543951/117.320466
Warin61 (2022-10-29 08:04:44+00:00): Boundaries of National Parks, State Forests suburbs usually have no 'on the ground markers' but they are hand things to have on the map .. so you can tell when you enter one, or leave one.
Foxydoug (2022-10-29 08:17:05+00:00): OK thanks
LikiCarolina (2022-10-30 14:16:20+00:00): your mapping is good
please keep mapping
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LikiCarolina (2022-10-30 14:16:21+00:00): your mapping is good
please keep mapping
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GinaroZ (2022-10-25 18:26:59+00:00): Not sure if office=training_center is the best tagging for this - US spelling :) and not used elsewhere. Though would be good to have a consistent approach to theory centre tagging
eggie (2022-10-25 18:12:56+00:00): Dag Wesley.. Lijkt me oke zo.
Groet
eggie
4004 (2022-10-26 11:15:59+00:00): можно было и не менять класс, альтернатив для роутина нет все равно
Sagit_BY (2022-10-26 13:35:27+00:00): ну я предположил что стоит. альтернативы есть через ВКМ кругами: М6 - Магистральная Озерское шоссе
Warin61 (2022-10-27 00:20:43+00:00): Hi,
Welcome to OSM...

The relation for Quealy Winery is not 'closed' so it does not form an area. See https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/14729792

Both members of the relation have no other tags .. so they can be combined into one way .. and that single way can then be closed to form an area. Once that is done the tags from the relation can be transferred to the single way and then the relation deleted... 

That make sense?
Aleksey Gorelikov (2022-10-25 10:55:38+00:00): https://data-usdot.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/highway-performance-monitoring-system-fsys-3/explore?filters=eyJCZWdpbl9Qb2ludCI6WzAsMzQ4LjQ4OF19&location=39.268469%2C-76.598218%2C17.05&style=ROUTE_NAME
bkil (2022-11-04 21:24:16+00:00): Szeretnék érdeklődni, hogy honnan származnak a házszámok. Valóban a Lili majorból nyílnak a Barackos út 27 épületek?
SomeoneElse_Revert (2022-11-07 16:03:05+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 128599619 where the changeset comment is: Following a complaint to the DWG, reverting some changes made by osmose.  See https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/128063226 .
Tjuro (2022-10-26 18:26:03+00:00): hallo goedegazelle,

is er een reden dat je de parking aan de highway plakt? zou het ook mogelijk zijn om dit los te houden?

MVG Tjuro
goedegazelle (2022-10-28 08:43:34+00:00): De reden waarom ik de parkeerplaatsen vastplak is omdat ze anders niet bereikbaar zijn voor routeerders.
Tjuro (2022-10-28 09:06:22+00:00): Dat snap ik niet helemaal, klikt een beetje als een probleem voor de router en niet iets wat wij moeten oplossen. Als routers willen routeren naar iets met een overgang van een lijn naar een gebied moeten ze altijd extra checks doen. Dat is nu ook als zo met alle landuses, natural busplatformen, huizen, adressen etc.

Ik vind het niet erg als je het zo laat maar realiseer je wel dat veel andere parkeervakken wel los staan.
aixbrick (2022-10-25 13:34:38+00:00): Hallo und willkommen bei OSM,
hier wurden offenbar wahllos Daten gelöscht (u.a. ein ganzes Straßenstück) oder verändert. Rückgängig gemacht mit https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/128040587. Bitte zukünftig solchen Vandalismus unterlassen.
Gruß
Aleksey Gorelikov (2022-10-25 11:18:39+00:00): https://data-usdot.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/highway-performance-monitoring-system-fsys-3/explore?filters=eyJCZWdpbl9Qb2ludCI6WzAsMzQ4LjQ4OF19&location=40.305899%2C-122.401294%2C17.23&style=ROUTE_NAME
gscscnd (2022-10-25 13:05:08+00:00): https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/128039593
qugeb (2024-01-13 14:46:29+00:00): Hallo, es gab einen (anonymen) Hinweis, dass der Laden wohl noch existiert. https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4051234
bernadotte (2024-01-14 14:08:32+00:00): Naja, das Haus wurde nicht abgerissen, oder so. Aber der Laden ist definitv zu. Der er Jäger ist, kann man noch klingeln und Wildfleisch bestellen, wenn ich das dem Schild richtig entnommen habe.
eggie (2022-10-25 11:37:52+00:00): warnings:crossing_ways:building-building

Fixed.. 

name=Huis verwijderd

Gr eggie
tekim (2022-10-26 16:29:04+00:00): we are not allowed to use "proprietary" sources to add data to OSM
Allison P (2022-10-26 21:42:48+00:00): "Proprietary" for Lyft meaning "provided to us for use in OSM but not the general public".
tekim (2022-10-26 21:52:52+00:00): Thanks for the reply.
1) Explaining that in your changeset comments would be helpful.
2) I am still not sure that is legit, but I am going to ask others in the community
Allison P (2022-10-26 23:37:35+00:00): It is. You will see similar changeset comments from dozens of other Lyft editors. Would be nice if they tweaked the terminology, though.
vrynkevich_lyft (2022-10-28 07:38:31+00:00): Hi tekim and  Allison P.
My name is Veranika, and I am a mapper in the OSM team at Lyft.
Allison P, thank you for clarifying what we mean by “Proprietary”. 
I want to assure you that the Lyft mapping team takes the OpenStreetMap rules seriously and that all of our resources are compliant with them. To make edits, the Lyft OSM team uses proprietary features created and owned by Lyft, specifically the street-level imagery from Lyft’s drivers taken during rides in various markets and Lyft drivers' GPS tracks. Also, as "proprietary aerial imagery" for now, we use Nearmap aerial imagery. They do allow us to use their imagery for OSM edits by license. That means our evidence fully complies with the OSM requirements. This info is updated frequently, and helps us to improve the OSM with the most recent data.
There have already been some OSM slack discussions regarding that topic (for example
https://osmus.slack.com/archives/C029HV951/p1649138722994309
https://osmus.slack.com/archives/CCJ2P6KCH/p1640129896237000, https://osmus.slack.com/archives/CCJ2P6KCH/p1663095305986359). So we added more explanation to our OSM profiles in the "Proprietary sources" section.

We are sorry that such terminology confuses you. Unfortunately, taking into account the volume of edits, as for now it is difficult for us to organize the addition of such explanations to each of our changesets. We are thinking of changing the phrase “Proprietary sources” to “Lyft-owned/owned by Lyft sources”. How do you think would it be a more accurate term?
Best regards, Veranika
OilStation (2022-10-26 04:06:37+00:00): 如果想更高效地编辑，可以了解一下JOSM这款软件。
Anil Basnet (2022-10-26 03:19:36+00:00): Hello Devraj, you have created a lot of duplicated buildings. Please delete them. 
  Always remember while mapping in JOSM, you are not allowed to map in the hatched region.
felipeeugenio (2022-10-25 14:10:26+00:00): Hola. Gracias por los aportes.
los circos si bien se ubican siempre en los mismos lugares, éstos son itinerantes. En OSM no mapeamos cosas temporales.
El resto de las ediciones están perfectas. Saludos
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felipeeugenio (2022-10-25 14:11:12+00:00): Pero la pregunta que hay es la siguiente. es este circo del mall plaza permanente?. saludos
moje_konto (2022-10-25 16:01:50+00:00): Again, you removed some business - "place doesn't exist": https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/127934585

Then re-added it as "new". The phone and postal address is the same, so it's the same business.

If they changed website address and maybe name, then only those tags should be updated.

It's very bad practice to remove history of objects.
saunter (2022-10-25 16:41:56+00:00): I wasn't aware it's the same place. First I deleted the old one because I thought it doesn't exist, then I found the new one but didn't connect the dots. I will bring back the old node and update the name
moje_konto (2022-10-25 23:44:24+00:00): Then good to keep checking latest changes nearby edit. Previous one would show up.

Also not always there is need to delete. There are special tags for things which may be used later.

For example: shop=vacant - if some shop closed, but building stayed. Later a new shop can be added on it. With that there will be easily accessible history of shops which were at some place.

Other pre-tags are - disused: or abandoned: or demolished: - for example if a building was demolished, but is still visible on latest photomap, demolished:building can be used, so others have clear info to not re-add it.

Wiki has more informations about different tags.
saunter (2022-10-26 08:39:17+00:00): Thanks, I am still learning, but want to do it the proper way, I will be more careful!
aceman444 (2022-12-23 08:03:19+00:00): Hi, why did you add border control at https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3900336514, when there is one at https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10127971087 ? There does not seem to be any control officer on the bridge on the Slovak side. Both Slovak and Hungarian officers probably sit in the building ont he Hungarian site, as you marked. Also it is very strange to mark the building as office=government.
itineris (2022-12-23 09:06:31+00:00): Hi,

One of the existing definitions is "Intersection of a country border and a road". The other definition is the actual place of border/customs control (as one would deduct from the key "barrier"). However, with the Schengen rules, most of the European border crossings are without a real barrier, or control at all.

Regarding the office tag, I could not find better here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:office
It's a government-operated office, anyway.
"office=customs" has only 9 instances worldwide.
aceman444 (2022-12-23 19:07:52+00:00): Where do you see such meaning?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dborder_control explicitly says "Tag the place where border control actually takes place, not the border itself." This sentence is on the wiki since 2013.

For the building it seems there indeed exists https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:government%3Dborder_control , you could add this. Or https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Agovernment%3Dcustoms .
Ropino (2022-10-26 08:10:46+00:00): Hi,
please take a look to:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway
+
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name
"batiment" is NOT a name.
... and use correct tags.
thx in advance
Dimitar155 (2022-10-25 13:59:24+00:00): Hello GaiusBrutus,

Welcome to OpenStreetMap! Thank you for your contribution. Please make sure to use Bulgarian for the common names of streets. The English variant can be added as another option (the reverse of what you have done). Feel free to ask for help if you need.

Best wishes,
Dimitar
MxxCon (2022-10-26 04:43:11+00:00): Hello.
Could you please elaborate how were they broken?
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fndoder (2022-10-25 14:52:32+00:00): Хочется повторить реплику из пакета правок https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/111702402 :

"Не все исправления, которые подсказывает редактор, следует применять без анализа."

Очевидно, лаборатория не должна тегироваться тегом healthcare=hospital, для этого есть отдельный тег.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:healthcare%3Dlaboratory
literan (2022-10-25 16:46:51+00:00): это не имя, а описание. задается тегами.
Striker2000 (2022-10-25 17:39:06+00:00): Это название, указанное на вывеске. Считаете, лучше в данном случае оставлять name пустым?
literan (2022-10-25 17:45:38+00:00): это не название, а текст с вывески. На вывеске, например, может быть написано "Чулки-носки дешево", "Заходите к нам, у нас хорошо" и прочие рекламные фразы. Если хочется, можно добавить этот текст в тег inscription.

Название объекта обычно есть на таблиичке у входа/ на стенде внутри.  Можно еще у персонала спросить. Если названия точно нет, то можно в Стриткомплите выбрать пункт "не указано", он тогда проставит тег noname=yes. 

Если неохота подходить и узнавать, лучше этот квест пропустить.
Striker2000 (2022-10-25 17:47:53+00:00): Понял. Спасибо за ответ!
Protoxenus (2022-12-27 10:57:04+00:00): Wäre schön, wenn du Hinweise abarbeitest, dass du dann auch die Hinweise selbst schließt. das erspart Anderen Arbeit.
Jessy73 (2023-12-30 08:48:24+00:00): Bonjour, 

Je suis un contributeur pour les activités outdoor côté France et notamment du côté des Alpes françaises. Je suis en train de contribuer pour la randonnée côté Haute Tarentaise. Je vois que côté Val d'Aoste, vous avez tagué les itinéraires avec par exemple le osmc:symbol:black:yellow_round:yellow:8:black

Les itinéraires apparaissent en noir sur la carte (exemple sur LocusMap), ne serait pas plutôt du yellow ? Comme c'est la couleur principale du balisage !? De même vous avez utilisé "round" or il n'existe pas dans le wiki, ne serait pas plutôt circle ? Et donc ainsi votre tag serait le suivant : 
osmc:symbol:yellow:yellow_circle:yellow:8:black

Sportivement
Jessy
mavl (2023-04-25 09:07:12+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 135307362, 135331978, 135327734, 135318197, 135323168 where the changeset comment is: Hi all. The changesets are reverted [DWG has the request to revert the changesets. Reason: valid data are deleted - https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/7056].
Duracellpt (2022-11-22 13:49:03+00:00): Benvindo ao OSM !

Pode também adicionar o que é o "Fausto Camisas". Se for uma loja pode adicionar a etiqueta shop

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt:Key:shop

Obrigado pela edição.
wille (2022-10-28 12:52:23+00:00): Olá,

Muito obrigado por suas contribuições ao OpenStreetMap! Revisei essa edição e encontrei apenas um pequeno erro: um nó de endereço foi arrastado pra uma localização incorreta, acredito que acidentalmente. Já fiz a correção.

Caso tenha alguma dúvida, pode entrar em contato comigo.
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marczoutendijk (2022-10-26 09:27:44+00:00): What do you mean with "fff"?
Please read:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_changeset_comments

Marc Zoutendijk
OpenStreetMap Foundation
Data Working Group
HellMap (2022-10-25 14:25:00+00:00): Hi!

These look like roads leading to and within a private property, so they are likely driveways and almost certainly not unclassified roads.

I see someone already mentioned this before in your earlier changeset.

Can you please use the correct highway classification for these?
Aleksandar Matejevic (2022-10-26 11:55:23+00:00): Please read how to use natural=coastline tag 

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dcoastline
jqngarcia (2022-10-25 16:14:36+00:00): Bona Tarda willyfogg, les anotacions que has fet son personals i OSM es per tothom, agrairia que eliminesis els noms.

Si no s'haura de revertir el canvi.

Salut i Mapes, JQN
marczoutendijk (2022-10-26 09:27:24+00:00): What do you mean with "fffggg"?
Please read:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_changeset_comments


Marc Zoutendijk
OpenStreetMap Foundation
Data Working Group
marczoutendijk (2022-10-26 09:27:01+00:00): What do you mean with "fffggg"?
Please read:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_changeset_comments

  
Marc Zoutendijk  
OpenStreetMap Foundation  
Data Working Group
eggie (2022-10-25 14:53:33+00:00): Goed om zaken actueel te houden,
maar meestal worden wegen die tijdelijk onder construction staan getagd met conditional tagging :

even alleen een voorbeeld. 
access:conditional=no @ (2021 Jan 22-2022 Apr 3) 

Alleen als iets heel lang gaat duren. Vele maanden dan zetten we iets op highway=construction
construction=?

En waarom bicycle=private hier?

MVG
eggie
eggie (2022-10-25 18:33:43+00:00): Dat gaat wel even duren
Op de Markendaalseweg tussen de
Baronesbrug en de Karnemelkstraat
komt tijdelijk een fietspad aan de
zuidkant: een fietspad voor fiets-
verkeer in beide richtingen
Ik heb dat tijdelijke fiets/voetpad toegevoegd.
bicycle=private heb ik verwijderd.

MVG
eggie
qa64 (2022-10-28 08:18:49+00:00): Ik had er inderdaad rekening mee gehouden dat highway=construction alleen voor langere tijd is, en dat is hier (lijkt mij) het geval. Met het taggen van bicycle=private is iets misgegaan, dat was niet de bedoeling. Zal het meteen aanpassen. Sorry!
eggie (2022-10-28 08:28:07+00:00): Hoi.. bicycle private had ik al verwijderd.
Het tijdelijke fietspad heb ik toegevoegd mbv de planninginfo van de gemeente. Up to you om het te checken.
Het lijkt me verder oke zo gezien de lange tijd van afsluiting.
Bedankt voor je reactie..
Eggie
eggie (2022-10-25 14:46:17+00:00): Dag Sxajne

 Graag wel de BAG data intact laten in het vervolg.

Hersteld..
MVG
eggie
adrianojbr (2022-10-25 15:25:15+00:00): Olá, AWaltrick!

Não se deve adicionar um ponto (nó) e uma área para o mesmo ponto de interesse (POI), conforme https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#One_feature,_one_OSM_element

Abraço!
AWaltrick (2022-10-25 18:19:07+00:00): Boa tarde adrianojbr!

OK, fiz o ajuste conforme orientação.

Att,
adrianojbr (2022-10-25 18:28:48+00:00): Boa tarde!

Só mais uma coisa. O ajuste seria manter a área, que é considerando uma mapeamento mais avançado e complexo. O ponto poderia ser removido ou combinado com a área.

Dito de outra forma, pode usar ponto para quase tudo, mas é uma forma mais simples de se mapear. A área, quando aplicável, é uma forma mais completa de mapeamento.

Desculpe por não ter sido claro antes.

Abraço!