piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
nikdoof (2022-12-08 14:26:43+00:00): I think this is incorrect, the change that mentions LEZ (116904795) is also modifying the boundary around Wigan, which would fall under the LEZ for Manchester.

The original discussion on 114077685 indicates that is was created as a District Ward which Colin discussed.

I was just editing around the border and the mention of a LEZ for St. Helens threw me, as (far as I know) no plans exist for one.
DaveF (2023-01-08 17:09:15+00:00):  Sledge92 Please redact this inaccurate changeset.
MrSledge (2023-01-10 00:33:48+00:00): Sure, I can do that as soon as it is possible.
If I may ask, what will be the name of the element, then? Will it just stay unnamed?
Having a government declare an administrative piece of land(which I'm assuming) without any name whatsoever does not seem to make any sense to me. If there is a source somewhere delimiting this element and this specific area it should be fair that it also has its name. So where is it?
DaveF (2023-01-10 01:25:24+00:00): Not familiar with the area , but I'm uncertain it is a level 10 admin area or even one at all.

All the other ones surrounding it are civil parishes.
Colin Smale (2023-01-10 11:50:02+00:00): The area will stay unnamed. It is not defined directly in law. Only parished areas are defined explicitly, and unparished areas are areas which do not fall within a civil parish. This boundary represents a "hole" in the administrative hierarchy, and the only reason a polygon exists in OS Boundary-Line is to ensure the topology of the whole country has complete coverage.
In the past there may have been some kind of council or other "thing" with a name that "owned" this polygon in some sense, but that is not currently the case.
I'm sure nobody needs reminding that any similarity of naming between government and Royal Mail is "purely coincidental."
DaveF (2023-01-10 16:31:34+00:00): Yeas, but is it an admin boundary at any level?

This appears to be the governmental boundary for the area
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/173478
Colin Smale (2023-01-10 21:18:20+00:00): No, relation #13466955 is not an admin boundary. However the ways of which it is composed, do represent (parts of) admin boundaries.
Carto'Cité (2023-03-14 09:23:39+00:00): Bonjour Max,
Merci pour tes contributions sur les aménagements cyclables. J'ai apporté quelques corrections sur cet aménagement : https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1084064237
Il était en doublon avec une piste cyclable (mal) décrite directement sur la description de la route. Et j'ai corrigé le type d'aménagement car il s'agit d'une voie verte avec une signalétique dédiée C115. Voilà l'ensemble des tags dans ce cas :
highway=path
bicycle=designated
foot=designated
segregated=no
surface=asphalt
traffic_sign=FR:C115

Je reste à ta disposition si tu as des questions ou des remarques 🙂

Charles de Carto’Cité pour #CartoVeloIdF
MaxR_6429 (2023-03-14 18:14:41+00:00): Bonjour @Charles, merci pour les corrections et le commentaire, je suis aligné sur tes corrections.
Carto'Cité (2023-03-15 08:14:01+00:00): Merci pour ton retour, c'est très gentil. N’hésite pas si tu as des questions ou des remarques.
Charles
tila89 (2022-08-10 07:20:48+00:00): Hi, 

mtb:scale=0- is not false value. Please change those back.  It's render differently in trailmap.fi

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:mtb:scale
"For very easy ways you can use mtb:scale=0-"
Matija Nalis (2023-11-07 23:07:20+00:00): overagressive wikidata/wikipedia mass-editing; e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2295137953 is not about species:wikidata/wikipedia; instead it is an article/entry about that specific one tree of historic importance. I've fixed that one, would you be kind to check if there are other wrong (not manually verified) changes  like that?
ivanbranco (2023-11-08 00:57:05+00:00): I checked a couple elements to get an idea since is a one year old changeset and in one case I replaced a wiki page that was deleted with an existing one, in another edit I fixed a wikidata redirect, in another one I deleted the wikidata entry for the "dentist" profession ecc.

As you can see I used iD, so no way of automatize edits as with JOSM, Level0 ecc. everything was hand-checked. Errors can happen tho.

Also is just 94 elements in one entire country, I often edit more elements just in my region. So I wouldn't call it "mass" either. Is just a large changeset box (for which I have already apologised in the changeset description).

Calling this changeset an overagressive mass-editing just because you found an error (made in good faith) is a little bit harsh in my opinion. If in this changeset I created a couple of errors by fixing x31 times more errors I would say it was worthed.
Matija Nalis (2023-11-08 04:32:23+00:00): Hi, thanks for checking! I'm not iD user so I have no idea of its capabilities (and which is operator oversight and which are errors due to iD idiosyncrasies). Even the best of us make random mistakes sometimes, I'm glad you can confirm it is not a workflow error. 

I certainly didn't mean to imply you did not act in the good faith, sorry if my terseness came out that way; by "overaggressive changes" I simply meant "things were changed which should not have been changed". Thanks for contributing!
Intrinsical (2022-08-06 04:02:21+00:00): When mapping buildings, try to avoid mapping the shape of the roof as seen from the satellite's camera perspective. Remember, you're trying to map the actual footprint of the building, not just trace the imagery.

Please see this article, and try to follow its guidelines in the future: https://learnosm.org/en/hot-tips/tracing-rectangular-buildings/

Especially this section: https://learnosm.org/en/hot-tips/tracing-rectangular-buildings/#buildings-with-a-ridged-roof , as it speaks about the roof issue I bring up, but in a more clear way.
MxxCon (2022-08-08 19:21:28+00:00): "team_handball" is a wrong sport here. This is "american_handball"
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MapSpot (2022-08-09 01:35:58+00:00): My bad! I split it into four separate sport pitches but didn't notice the tag.
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ALu68 (2022-08-07 21:23:45+00:00): Hallo   JeeArAux_79,

Wo hast du diesen Namen her?
"Kleinkinderspielplatz ..."
Colin Smale (2022-08-05 19:57:39+00:00): You are right to flag this anomaly in the admin levels, but PLEASE if you are going to fix it, do it properly and not randomly. Work out what the actual error is, and follow established practice to repair it. If you don't feel confident, leave it alone and leave a note.
Colin Smale (2022-08-05 19:59:28+00:00): Actually, there was nothing wrong with the tagging. There is both a Tewkesbury District (at admin_level=8) and a Tewkesbury Town Council (at admin_level=10 as it is a Civil Parish council).
MrSledge (2022-08-06 19:59:37+00:00): Hi, I changed Tewkesbury because the element Chaceley(relation/6013725) has this element as its "parent" element. It didn't seem logical to me that a civil parish has another civil parish as its element and that both have the same administrative relevance, since it is then implied neither is more relevant than the other. Additionally, there is the fact Chaceley is not within the boundaries of Tewkesbury but that's just a detail.
Colin Smale (2022-08-06 20:06:34+00:00): The problem was that Chaceley was a subarea of Tewkesbury Town whereas it should have been a subarea of Tewkesbury District (and a peer of Tewkesbury Town). If you don't understand something, I don't mind helping you out, but I don't want to spend time repairing well-intentioned but misguided efforts to fix it...
MrSledge (2022-08-06 21:06:47+00:00): Yeah, I also don't like correcting someone else's mistakes. I do know how to do those datafixes of changing the elements that contain others and changing the admin level, but thank you for offering to help me. I'm just thinking that if any problem happens on whatever changeset then someone will comment and I will correct my mistake.
Colin Smale (2022-08-06 21:23:15+00:00): Great! I recommend you familiarize yourself with the tagging of admin areas in the UK, as documented in the wiki (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative#10_admin_level_values_for_specific_countries) and as used in practice. Be warned, the UK has quite a complex admin hierarchy. Don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions!
MrSledge (2022-08-08 19:02:04+00:00): Thank you! You won't be dealing with my stuff so soon, since I'm done mapping the UK(England and Ireland were quite a doozie) but should I revisit it I'll bear your words in mind. 😊
Szymson (2022-08-08 02:40:43+00:00): Serio? Znowu?
canfe (2022-08-06 15:23:03+00:00): Tolto il disused vuol dire che allora ha riaperto il ristorante??
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mueschel (2022-08-06 15:31:57+00:00): Hi,
I just removed a tag added by mistake:

"disused:amenity=restaurant" = "yes"

the correct tag
"disused:amenity" = "restaurant"
is still there.
canfe (2022-08-06 16:07:32+00:00): OK!
erickdeoliveiraleal (2023-10-08 17:50:56+00:00): tipo "não_pavimentado" não está correto
Túllio (2023-10-08 18:20:42+00:00): Olá. Não entendi o problema. Qual o erro?
erickdeoliveiraleal (2023-10-09 15:49:25+00:00): olha as tags: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/555219800/history
Pikse (2022-09-19 07:51:27+00:00): Maybe it'd be better to use place=quarter (or even place=neighbourhood)? Currently names seem a little too prominent on osm.org: suburbs are about as prominent as names for settlements of type alev/alevik (displayed from zoom level 12). While these suburbs are likely less known than many villages (place=hamlet, displayed from zoom 14). Possibly labels for small sections of some other small cities in Estonia could be checked, too.
Apolemus (2022-09-27 17:54:15+00:00): I would consider this very much mapping for the renderer then. I saw the problem before but the categorisation (also with the possible looseness of borders) matches the definition in the wiki.[1]

Maybe we would have to find new definitions (based on wikipedia definitions of these british terms of course) for the Estonian case again, which I can try to deal with but not in the next weeks.

[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dsuburb
Pikse (2022-09-29 08:08:27+00:00): To me the choice between suburb/quarter/neighbourhood seems just arbitrary. All these are broadly defined and I wouldn't say that definitions of the latter two are less applicable here. It sort of would be mapping for the renderer, but then again we might think that osm.org styles de facto establishes how place size/prominence types compare to each, and there doesn't seem to be better criterium based on which to choose between given three place types in this case.
Pikse (2022-09-29 08:34:07+00:00): Or, in addititon to comparison to settlements neightbouring the city, we might also compare subcity places of Rakvere to these of other Estonian cities. Hierarchically, to start from the top, largest subcity places in Estonia are city disticts (linnaosad) in Tallinn. So we might check which place type is used for the latter (currently suburb) and then use lower level place types (quarter or neighbourhood) within other Estonian cities since these don't have subcity places that are nearly as big as city districts in Tallinn.
Apolemus (2022-10-08 08:38:36+00:00): Every tagging in OSM is just arbitrary but has some traditions which we should follow also for the Estonian data since otherwise it is not comparable to other countries anymore. I agree that place=suburb tends to imply a size which the subcity places in e.g. Rakvere don’t have. But the tagging I used is not uncommon in other countries either, also for small places! But since Tallinn’s asumid have around the same inhabitant size of Tartu’s linnaosad I agree it would be good to change the subcity place tagging in the places I’ve done earlier to place=quarter (since in Tartu there are smaller entities which already have place=neighbourhood). I will do it in the next days.
Apolemus (2022-10-08 09:12:52+00:00): Changed in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/127189175
qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq (2024-06-27 20:03:19+00:00): Hi, small follow-up on this 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/4308711
willkmis (2022-08-05 20:36:55+00:00): Hi, is Centinela actually physically separated in this segment? That is, the directions are separated by a median or raised curb, not just paint on the ground or a center turn lane. This physical separation is necessary to map road directions separately: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dual_carriageway. It doesn't appear to be separated in any street-level or aerial imagery, but maybe the imagery is out of date. If there's only a center turn lane, you can map the road as a single way for both directions with lanes:both_ways=1 + turn:lanes:both_ways=left
arcth (2022-08-07 00:53:30+00:00): Hello,

what is the source of name:ru tag here? I've never seen anyone actually use Золитудская улица referring to Zolitūdes iela.
somix (2022-08-07 04:13:55+00:00): Hello, I translated myself.  Zolitūdes iela refers to the name of the place, and is translated in the same way as Rīgas iela (Рижская улица), Bulduru prospects (Булдурский проспект), etc.
arcth (2022-08-07 12:08:22+00:00): Toponyms usually should not be translated literally. If known, customary name locals use to refer to the feature is preferred [1], otherwise names are represented by transcription [2]. Also, compare search results for Золитудская улица [3] and улица Золитудес [4].

[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Avoid_uninformed_transliteration

[2] https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9B%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8B%D1%88%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE-%D1%80%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BF%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F

[3] https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%83%D0%B4%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F+%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0%22

[4] https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0+%D0%B7%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%81%22
somix (2022-08-07 15:10:15+00:00): Ok, thanks for the explanation.  I'll fix it.
eerib (2022-08-08 21:26:13+00:00): Dispute discussion can be found in changeset #124409974

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/124409974
EP_Repair (2022-08-11 14:42:23+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 124778923 where the changeset comment is: revert organized attempts to subvert trail networks see https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/6216
Jordi MF (2022-08-09 21:19:38+00:00): Hola Josepvc,
Teniendo en cuenta que las antiguas escuelas de Santa Bárbara no se utilizan como centro educativo, creo que debería utilizarse el etiquetado con prefigjo de ciclo vital (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ES:Prefijo_de_ciclo_vital). En este caso, creo que debería sera disused:amenity=school. Te parece bien que lo corrija?
Saludos,
Jordi
chimerasaurus (2022-08-05 20:45:50+00:00): Asked for a review to double check this is the canonical way to mark as closed.
seattlefyi (2022-08-05 23:48:07+00:00): Hi, welcome to OSM and thanks for asking! I would not have added a new tag here, but would have removed all business-related tags (name, leisure, website, sport). If you right-click the feature in iD and select "downgrade" in that pop-up menu it will do this in one-step.
seattlefyi (2022-08-05 23:55:29+00:00): This method keeps the address-related tags (likely still valid) for the next tenant.
seattlefyi (2022-08-05 23:56:35+00:00): The "disused:" prefix is a softer removal method. It can be applied to tags already there (in this case at least "disused:leisure=fitness_centre" would work). Can be used if you're not sure it's permanent, or to leave traces of the prior tags for some reason. Again, would just remove the business tags as described above, in this case.
AgusQui (2022-08-06 15:40:28+00:00): si los cambios son en septiembre entonces aun no se deben mapear
kwiatek_123 (2022-08-06 09:42:58+00:00): Dzięki za zmapowanie! Tylko ten budynek publiczny to nie budynek a fontanna. Poprawiłem tutaj https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/124554100
Coolawik (2022-08-06 11:50:38+00:00): rzeczywiście! dodałem kilka szczegółów

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/124558766
martinst (2022-08-05 22:30:44+00:00): Ich weiß nicht ob es schon bekannt ist:
Man kann hier fertige Hausumrisse im iD Editor anzeigen lassen wenn man den Overlay "© GeoBasis-DE/LVermGeo LSA, ATKIS_BU" aktiviert. (entsprechendes gibts bestimmt auch in JOSM)
eggie (2022-08-05 20:40:02+00:00): Hoi,
Wellicht heb je hier nog iets aan voor de finetuning
https://www.satellietdataportaal.nl/?base=openstreetmap&res=0.5&datemin=05-08-2021&loc=51.10691%2C5.864596%2C18z&overlay=mos-0&marker=loc&acqdate=2022-07-19&acqid=20220719_105320_SV1-04&sensor=SuperView-1

cycleway=lane verwijderd van oversteek. Fietsoversteek ingetekend bicycle=use_sidepath toegevoegd. Nu routeert het weer voor fietsers. 
Groet
eggie
eggie (2022-08-05 20:41:47+00:00): De Duiker heet Echtertmolenbeek, maar het zuidelijk deel Echtermolenbeek. Wellicht weet jij hoe het zit. Het geeft hier een foutmelding.
eggie (2022-08-06 10:04:51+00:00): Beeknaam aangepast naar Echtermolenbeek..Dat moet haast wel fout zijn.
Groet
eggie
Map-Peter (2022-08-06 20:33:33+00:00): Hallo OvonH,
 
so etwas ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/102328311/history ) muss dir vor dem Speichern doch auffallen: https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=124538197 ... dazu dann noch fast ganz oben in iD ganze fünf gelb hervorgehobene Fehlermeldungen, welche du alle ignoriert hast ... und dann noch dieses "änderung" als CS-Kommentar bedeutet so viel wie "Das geht euch hier alle gar nichts an was ich wann/wo/warum geändert habe" -> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Good_changeset_comments
 
:-(
 
PS: https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=124577057
gscholz (2022-08-07 06:07:44+00:00): Hi Mercy14846,
this changeset has created several errors in the OSM database regarding self intersecting lines (rdd dots):

https://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=areas&lon=8.65234&lat=7.29752&zoom=16&baselayer=Geofabrik%20Standard&opacity=0.62&overlays=duplicate_node%2Csingle_node_in_way%2Cduplicate_segment%2Cway_in_multiple_rings%2Cintersection%2Cintersecting_segments%2Cring_not_closed%2Ctouching_rings%2Crole_should_be_inner%2Crole_should_be_outer%2Cinner_with_same_tags%2Cways%2Cduplicate_node%2Csingle_node_in_way%2Cduplicate_segment%2Cway_in_multiple_rings%2Cintersection%2Cintersecting_segments%2Cring_not_closed%2Ctouching_rings%2Crole_should_be_inner%2Crole_should_be_outer%2Cinner_with_same_tags%2Cways

https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=124538608

Obviously you have changed the shape of several buildings which resulted in those errors.
Can you please fix this?
Kind regards
Guido
gscholz (2022-08-14 06:53:14+00:00): Hi Mercy14846, 
this errors still exist. Can I get your feedback here?
Guido
gscholz (2022-08-23 09:03:53+00:00): Hi Mercy14846,
this errors still exist. Can I get your feedback here?
Guido
Mercy14846 (2022-08-23 10:02:25+00:00): if you think you can edit it please do
gscholz (2022-08-24 05:46:19+00:00): Hi Mercy14846, 
thanks for your response. For educational purposes it is by far better if you learn to fix your errors yourself. Please go ahead.

I recommend to have a look at this wiki page:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Quality_assurance

Guido
Frans S (2022-08-29 13:13:51+00:00): Hello. Please do not upload every single mapping, Please collect them till your want to stop or when all buildings are mapped and upload them in one go.
HirschKauz (2022-08-20 11:19:41+00:00): Hi OvonH, 
sind dies wirklich Biergärten nach dem Bayrischen Prinzip (Bedienung nur an der Theke, Essen mitbringen erlaubt,...)? Ansonsten wäre amenity=outdoor_seating besser. 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Tag:amenity%3Dbiergarten
Grüße, Bob
CurlingMan13 (2023-01-04 23:59:14+00:00): You incorrectly changed a bunch of residential roads to golf cartpaths, which is not correct.  These changes are being reverted accordingly to correct the map.
CurlingMan13 (2023-01-05 00:23:47+00:00): Let me clarify.  After a more thorough check, it appears you just added access=cartpath to a residential road which had been mistagged.  My apologies.  Just a heads up, these shouldn't have been cartpaths.  Be on the look out for people mapping things incorrectly to do that golf game export.

Keep up the awesome work resolving the flagged data issues.  :)
user_5359 (2022-08-13 06:21:06+00:00): Hello! Please have a look on http://www.osm.org/node/9934454785. what is the meaning of the tag Biotechnolohy and Genetic Engineering Department = Study?
map per (2022-08-07 14:44:03+00:00): Hello ljuto pierdnął,

does this place (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1084030356) really exist or is this just fantasy mapping? 

Best regards
map per
map per (2022-08-07 14:56:06+00:00): машинний переклад:

Привіт ljuto pierdnął,

чи справді існує це місце (https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1084030356) чи це просто фантастичне відображення?

З найщирішими побажаннями
карта на
user_5359 (2022-08-13 06:16:35+00:00): Welcome to OSM! Please have a look on https://www.osm.org/way/1084105652. what is the meaning of the tag
ID ONS = TODID?
ivanmart37 (2022-08-16 14:07:40+00:00): Field removed...
silversurfer83 (2022-08-06 07:31:31+00:00): Moin Jonathan,

Schön, dass du bei OSM mitmachst und hilfst die Datenbank zu verbessern :)

Ein Hinweis: Gib doch bitte an, worauf deine Änderungen basieren. Im Onlineeditor iD (dem von dir genutzten) gibt es unter dem Kommentarfeld auch ein Feld für die Quellenangabe. Da gibt es vorgegebene Quellen und du kannst Freitext eingeben. 

Weiter viel Spaß beim Mappen
silversurfer83
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ovruni (2022-08-06 00:04:32+00:00): Hola, el uso de etiquetas con prefijos "addr:" es recomendado usarlo en puntos de interés, la etiqueta en lugares es con el prefijo "is_in:" aunque esta etiqueta esta obsoleta en caso ya existan los limites como es el caso de los distritos, provincias, o departamentos. Por ahora he dejado la clave como "is_in:neighbourhood", ya que no se han definido los limites de esos barrios.
Saludos
TuAmigoElEditor (2022-08-06 00:06:55+00:00): Ok ya entiendo la diferencia de is_in y addr. Justo ahora estoy mapeando los limites de las urbanizaciones y asociaciones de la zona. Saludos
Glassman (2022-08-07 15:41:18+00:00): Question - are the sidewalks marked as private, ie no trespassing or are they justed owned by a private company? If they are privately owned but anyone can use them then the access tag isn't needed. If they are marked as no-trespassing then the tag is appropriate.
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chimerasaurus (2022-08-07 15:43:53+00:00): They’re marked as private; they also lead to the private path. Noticed while helping someone move into these buildings.
Glassman (2022-08-07 16:27:50+00:00): Thanks for the confirmation.
tastrax (2022-08-10 07:48:42+00:00): Hi folks FYI - Phone numbers in Australia should be added to OSM according to the following format with the country code 
+61 x xxxx xxxx, (+61 xxx xxx xxx for mobiles) or use the phone:AU key if a 1300 or 1800 number.
For freecall numbers that work whilst overseas (ie 13 13 13) use +61 XX XX XX
as per the wiki guidelines https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Australian_Tagging_Guidelines/Australian_features  - I have just updated a recent addition that you made to OSM – Cheers
Intrinsical (2022-08-05 23:54:37+00:00): Please make sure your bounding boxes for a single edit are smaller. Thank you.
sunnivaløvstad (2022-08-07 00:05:01+00:00): Oh goodness. That's.... not great. Seems Streetcomplete bugged out on this one. No worries, I can delete it.
sunnivaløvstad (2022-08-07 00:10:47+00:00): ...can't delete it 0.0
Intrinsical (2022-08-07 02:03:27+00:00): Oh yeah don't worry about deleting it or anything. Just try to avoid it in the future. ^^