piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
JJIglesias (2020-01-16 05:46:19+00:00): Slds Marco Antonio. Te sugiero que te leas bien el uso de landuse=grass y traffic_island.
Las "islas" de trafico son por default area=yes, con surface=grass u otras, landuse NO APLICA para esas areas verdes pues NO es cultivo dedicado, sino superficie de cobertura, esas areas NO SON PARA CULTIVAR PASTO, sino para dividir zonas y areas de trafico urbano.

Despues que leas e investigues voy a revertir todos estos cambios que has hecho, que van en contra de la Wiki.

Gracias
JJ
5m4u9 (2020-01-17 08:48:20+00:00): hmmm... hice el cambio porque pienso que esas areas marcadas como islas de tráfico no solo son eso, sino también areas de hierba o a veces parques

el editor iD incurre en un fallo al eliminar el uso de suelo/ocio y reemplaza por islas de trafico, a lo máximo debería añadir al resto de etiquetas y no reemplazar

en la wiki especificamente dice que son areas en medio de rotondas o en medio de calles, no menciona que sean para areas de cultivo. el uso de suelo incluye actividades o arreglos

yo no niego que sean islas de trafico, sino solo pienso que esas areas son también gestionadas por EMSA que arregla, corta, y a veces siembra la hierba, a eso lo llamo uso de suelo

dejar esas areas solo con islas de trafico es negar otros usos que le da la gente o las autoridades, aparte de brindar seguridad a los autos

evidentemente el surface lo puedo/podemos restaurar del changeset para que no quede incoherente
JJIglesias (2020-01-17 15:16:04+00:00): El tema es que las islas de trafico son construcciones, que se les ha puesto una covertura surface=grass, y por defecto ahora son todos area=yes, pues las islas de trafico pueden ser tambien lineas o nodos. Poderle dar otras etiquetas como parque por ejemplo no crean ningun problema; alli el tema es el landuse por eso te sugeri que leas https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Landuse donde landuse=grass se refiere mas a landcover=grass que a uso del terreno.

Si puedes restituir las areas=yes y poner la surface=grass o landcover=grass; cumple ambos propositos para efectos de traffic island y parques u otros usos.

Gracias y Saludos
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user_5359 (2020-01-16 14:41:44+00:00): Welcome to OSM! I have delete your SEO SPAM (mostly no standard keys, no verifiable data or not positive verifiable address data). If this is an error, you can report it here, then we will be happy to help restore the data. For the most information in the description we have own keys. Please have look on the website http://wiki.openstreetmap.org.
yadathot (2020-01-16 06:17:27+00:00): Added Residential Roads and Modified the geometry of the roads as per Latest Private Earth Watch Imagery's.
PT-53 (2020-01-16 09:23:33+00:00): Hallo Til Man,
Du hast den geschlossenen Gebäudeumriß dieses Gebäudes
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/435334699/history
in 2 Outer für ein MP aufgetrennt. Warum, bzw was wolltest Du damit erreichen?
(Ich habe Deine Änderung wieder zurückgesetzt.)
Fragende Grüße
PT-53 (2020-01-16 09:29:44+00:00): PS: 
Wenn dort eine Zahnarztpraxis untergebracht ist, sollten noch die Merkmale
amenity=dentist +
healthcare=dentist +
name=*
ergänzt werden. Am besten aber nicht am Gebäudeumriß sondern an einem separaten Knoten innerhalb des Gebäudes. 
Wie heißt denn der Zahnarzt und hat er eine Homepage?
(Antwort bitte als neuen Kommentar in diesem Änderungssatz.
Grüße
PT-53 (2020-01-16 11:12:35+00:00): Hallo Til Man,
Du schreibst, daß Du nur die Zahnarztpraxis kennzeichnen wolltest. Mit dem Eintrag
name=Zahnarztpraxis
ist das aber nicht ausreichend und zudem falsch. So ist keine Suche nach einem Zahnarzt möglich.
Wie heißt den der dortige Zahnarzt?
(Rückmeldung bitte per neuem Kommentar und nicht als PN).
Grüße
wgwksch_2020 (2020-01-16 11:42:43+00:00): Crochet, Jürgen
PT-53 (2020-01-16 13:17:05+00:00): Hallo,
ich habe den Name-Eintrag am Gebäude gelöscht und für den Zahnarzt einen separaten POI-Knoten innerhalb des Gebäudes erstellt:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7136748527
Grüße
frozenrabi (2023-12-08 12:29:10+00:00): Please do not create sharp angles while creating highways. And please ensure you have enough level of zoom level before maping features. Thank you!
user_5359 (2020-01-16 14:14:07+00:00): Welcome to OSM! I have delete your SEO SPAM (mostly no standard keys, no verifiable data or not positive verifiable address data). If this is an error, you can report it here, then we will be happy to help restore the data. For the most information in the description we have own keys. Please have look on the website http://wiki.openstreetmap.org.
pjpawletko (2020-01-16 06:32:25+00:00): THIS IS A TRAVESTY! It's clearly a forest.
Supaplex (2020-06-18 12:53:01+00:00): 恭喜您完成第一次的地圖編輯！ 歡迎加入開放街圖，群眾共同參與，繪製生活週遭大家關心事物的共編地圖。以下是相關的參考資料，歡迎隨時指教與提問。

編輯須知
台灣的標示依循準則可參考 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Taiwan
常見的圖徵標示方式可參考 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Zh-hant:Map_Features
給Pokemon Go玩家的建議：https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tips_for_new_(Pokemon_Go)_mappers
組織性編輯指南：https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines

台灣社群網站
台灣 OpenStreetMap 網站  https://osm.tw/
臉書粉絲頁OpenStreetMap台灣 https://www.facebook.com/openstreetmaptaiwan/
台灣社群Facebook社團 https://www.facebook.com/groups/OpenStreetMap.TW/
郵件論壇 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tw
Telegram OpenStreetMap Taiwan https://t.me/joinchat/Aqu2IgnTuIidMfREdNmomQ
Telegram OpenStreetMap Asia  https://t.me/OpenStreetMapAsia
Slack https://osm-tw.signup.team/

Happy Mapping!
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eggie (2020-01-16 09:24:01+00:00): Dag Ruben.. Niet dubbeltaggen svp. Die namen staan er al op.
MVG,
Eggie
RubenKnijn (2020-01-18 07:08:39+00:00): Oke, zal er rekening mee houden
yadathot (2020-01-16 06:49:57+00:00): Added Service Roads and Modified the geometry of the roads as per Latest Private Earth Watch Imagery.
abakus_uploader (2020-01-16 23:30:32+00:00): (Wiadomość automatyczna)
Cześć!
Otrzymujesz ten komentarz, ponieważ dodałeś lub zmodyfikowałeś adres, który jest niepełny lub błędny.
Adres powinien zawierać minimum trzy znaczniki: addr:city=[nazwa_miejscowosci] + addr:street=[nazwa_ulicy] + addr:housenumber=[numer_porządkowy].
Wyjątkiem są miejscowości bez nazwanych ulic - wtedy stosujemy znaczniki: addr:place=[nazwa_miejscowosci] + addr:housenumber=[numer_porządkowy].
Bez poprawnego oznaczenia adresów, nie będą one brane pod uwagę przez wyszukiwarki, dlatego warto je dostosować do ww. schematu (w zależności od sytuacji).
Więcej informacji na forum: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=5632 - a pytania najlepiej zadawać tu: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=681873
Pozdrawiamy!
Max-Kritic (2021-07-12 17:59:56+00:00): Un chemin de 1 m n'est pas une voie verte. Au plus un trottoir où les cyclistes pourraient rouler. J'ai refait le giratoir de la ZAC du Moulin Mayeux
Max-Kritic (2021-07-12 18:00:38+00:00): Les passages pour piétons ne sont pas connectés à la voirie ?
eggie (2020-01-16 08:48:44+00:00): Oke.. Ziet er netjes uit.
Onder het gebouw kun je beter taggen tunnel=building_passage
Gr eggie
GOwin (2020-01-16 08:31:17+00:00): Thank you for your contribution.
Harald Komposch (2020-01-16 07:41:57+00:00): should be called "at mount Brennkogel" sorry
Glassman (2020-01-16 17:51:57+00:00): Thank you for your edit. I reviewed your work and it look good.
            ---
            #REVIEWED_GOOD #OSMCHA
            Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.mapbox.com/changesets/79638120
Hb- (2020-02-14 20:07:26+00:00): With this edit you cracked the Dingo fence here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7135126158
AndjelaS (2020-02-19 07:25:32+00:00): We had a lot of work here and I splitted the fence at this point, it was unnecessary. Thank you for pointing out and for correcting it.
maciek-szn (2020-01-16 09:09:09+00:00): Do wycofania - ponownie scalono drogi o różnych atrybutach.
eggie (2020-01-16 08:54:16+00:00): motor_vehicle=no is default.
Wel is het belangrijk om moped=yes  en mofa=yes toe te voegen en als motorfietsen mogen passeren motorcycle=yes idem.
access=permissive is een tag die aangeeft dat de eigenaar van de weg je ten alle tijde de toegang kan ontzeggen. Dus nvt hier.
Wel emergency=yes voor hulpdiensten toevoegen als de paal eruit kan. 
Het pad van de Breederkamp naar de Niesstraat staat vast op access=no zo te zien aan de rendering.  Dat kan beter eraf. 
Eggie
DGerveno (2020-01-16 18:41:07+00:00): La comarca de la Hoya, así como varias más de Aragón, ya estaban en el mapa, y estaban totalmente correctas. Con su edición ha duplicado usted alguna de ellas, por lo que voy a revertirla. Un saludo,
Verdy_p (2020-01-16 18:51:57+00:00): No duplication, it is split in two parts over two provinces. This is what I am mapping
DGerveno (2020-01-16 18:58:07+00:00): Las comarcas en Aragón son una entidad que se sitúa por encima del nivel de municipio, al margen de la provincia, por loq ue el estado anterior de límites era correcto. En todo caso, ha duplicado usted alguna de las comarcas con ese cambio, lo que ya era motivo para revertir. Un saludo.
Verdy_p (2020-01-16 18:59:37+00:00): I will revert your dseletion. You've broken thjings you did not understand, and did not even read the note tag.
Your revert was clearly abusive, totally unjustified
Verdy_p (2020-01-16 18:59:53+00:00): There was NO duplicate a
Verdy_p (2020-01-16 19:02:00+00:00): that comarca is NOT totlally inside the province of Huesca, it has a prt in the province of Saragoose. This case also occurs for 3 other comarcas split each in tow parts over the provinces of Huesca and Zaragoza.
DGerveno (2020-01-16 19:04:56+00:00): Le estoy intentando explicar cómo son y cómo funcionan los límites políticos de Aragón, que es el lugar donde he nacido y resido desde hace cincuenta años. Si no quiere entender, me parece bien, pero no debería editar zonas y temas que no conoce, ya que puede cometer errores importantes, como así ha sido. Un saludo.
ikanian (2020-01-16 19:44:36+00:00): Yes, you do have duplicated the comarcas. This was mapped already, and you have duplicated or divided in a manner that has nothing to do with how does the comarcas work in Aragón. Take in account that every autonomous community may have (or not, as the majority does not have any comarcas) different laws for describing the comarcas, and Aragón definetily does not divide any comarca in provinces. They are different things.

Moreover, you have written Zaragoza incorrectly in some of your edits
Verdy_p (2020-01-16 20:03:48+00:00): I wrote them correctly except in this comment above, as the web fomr has bugs and submits too early while editing, not allowing correcting the text in some cases (keyboard shortcuts)
And I do understand that comarcas and provinces are separate divisions of the region. I have not "created" any comarcas the fractions were NOT tagged as comarcas and clearly distinguished as "fractions", corret distinctive names and notes. This then allowed chking the lsits of municipalities and various one were not mapped where they should be. This was a necesdsary step before adding the missing comarcas in the rest of the province of Zaragoza (yes I wrote above "saragoose" but it was a typo I could not fix and was sent "as is" in the web form; I could have written "Saragossa" or "Saragosse" as well, all correct depending on language)
ikanian (2020-01-17 15:35:52+00:00): I think you are just ignoring what is a collaborative community. Moreover, you have entered in an edition war. You are ignoring all of what the people of the spanish osm community have told you (since I know, I am not nor the first person nor the last that have talked to you about the spanish' comarcas that you are editing) and just doing what you want, when you want and how you want. 

I think that this is not definitely the way editing in osm works.

Btw, yes, you wrote Zaragoza wrong, both in Spanish and in Aragonese:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10594434
Verdy_p (2020-01-17 20:22:58+00:00): This was already fixed in that subrelation.
And no, other Spanish users contacted me to say thanks.
I was asked to compelte the work in Aragon, and this revert just complicated the task, These subrelations were needed at least as an intermediate step to fix various things, including dixing many names, missing admin_centers, adding references (wikidata and so on), and debreaking some broken boundaries (I checked them in the Spanish cadasdtre to see if the conflations were correct as these limits are still approximative and deviate frequently between two neighbouring municipalities, sometimes creating articficial holes.
The coverage has grown. And I use the msot relevant sources agreed on several Spanish communities (OSM wiki, Spanish Wikipedia, and Wm Commons, checking the dates as they have changed over time or because some of them are different proposals of comarcalisation or because they are traditional and not endorsed by the agriculture ministry, or the juntas and deputations of provinces or regions which use different definitions; I was told to use iun preference the agrarian comarcas when there are conflicts, instead of touristic comarcas proposed/promoted by provinces, differently from the regional comarcas and also differently from multiple layers of traditional comarcas, various ones being in fact subcomarcas of another traditional but newer and larger comarca).
Verdy_p (2020-01-17 20:31:36+00:00): So in conclusion I do not ignore the community, I take their input in consideration; beside the minor name incorrect in the subrelation that could have been fixed, but was blindly removed with everything else, without any prior talk to suggest easy fixes and explain what we can do...
I have various messages in my talk page here about these, they were positive and did not go to an unexplained blind revert (which also restored many errors I had fixed) but only to some fixes.
sanchi (2020-01-17 21:03:33+00:00): Para no ignorar a la comunidad hay que hablar con ella como se te ha comentado y pedido. Eso no ha sucedido. Es el principal problema.
Para los límites administrativos no es correcto usar Catastro, hay que mirar el IGN.
Por lo demás reiterar lo que ya se te ha comentado.
msevilla00 (2020-01-17 21:25:09+00:00): Dear Verdy_p, I guess you are ignoring how are the correct limits of "comarcas" in Aragón (which are different than agrarian old ones) and you were wrong doing your editions against other user contributions. This start a big argument which is moving to the talk-es mailing list, Spanish OSM mailing list, and we are considering to sent a banned report to the OSM Working Data Group [1]. Please, take note of Spanish community considerations and stop doing wrong editions.
Best regards.
[1] http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Ediciones-del-usuario-Verdy-p-sin-consenso-con-la-comunidad-espa-ola-de-OSM-td5956308.html
Verdy_p (2020-01-17 21:57:52+00:00): No I do not ignore that. I spoke about the agrarian ones but not for Aragon.
I use the same sources that the Spanish community has developed in OSM, in Wikidata, in es.Wikipedia, I look at them, search the official sites, look for legal texts. These are thousands of clicks and hours of searches.
And I was really talking with other Spanish users (the DWG can even consult my talk page here on the OSM site)
I've not "invented" new borders, just created a few separate objects to manage the creation of missing borders and correct classification of municipalities. This is a step to check them (even the existing comarcas are not complete everywhere as you think).
Now the minor name error you talk is not even in the boundaries that you have kept, only in the temporary subjects (that are clearly not "duplicates" and were tagged specifically and differently from comarcas, and not described as comarcas, with additional note to exhibit it more clearly, but you ignore that).
unodecrespos (2020-01-17 21:58:23+00:00): Dear Verdy_p,

First and foremost, I told you to get in touch with the Spanish community before continuing the delicate task of altering borders in Spain. You ignored me twice, so yes, you ignored the Spanish community. It's no surprise that you have ended up making mistakes elsewhere when you didn't take into account local mappers to reach a consensus.
I thanked you for your interest in improving the map in Spain, but that doesn't mean that I condone your methods. And I repeatedly told you that comarcas are quite a complex matter that have different difficulties depending on the region. In Ávila, specifically, I (personally) prefer the agrarian comarcas to the deputation limits, but that doesn't mean you can take my opinion and implement it throughout the country without getting in touch with the community first. I also told you that I, being a local, wouldn't even dare map comarcas in neighbouring provinces and yet you assume the task yourself without making the necessary research (which is a difficult task in itself). If comarcas haven't been mapped locally it may be because users believe they shouldn't or because it is too difficult. What makes you think that you know better?
Verdy_p (2020-01-17 22:09:26+00:00): And may you don't know but I have the legal document named "DECRETO LEGISLATIVO 2/2006, de 27 de diciembre, del Gobierno de Aragón, por el que se aprueba el texto refundido de la Ley de Delimitación Comarcal de Aragón", published on 30 December 2006 in BOA n° 149. I use it to find decrepencies (e.g. missing "alt names" used by the region, different from those used by IDEE, and forgotten in OSM).
There are various municipalities that don't have their admin_center node linked which I fix too (this really helps creating other divisions and locating items on the map data). I add the missing wikidata items (or create them as needed, making also links in Wikidata for some relevant wikis and adding the missing classification or fixing a few declarations, already signaled in Wikidata as they reference the incorrect object not of the correct datatype). I consolidate all that together, and mlake sure that all relevant sources are linked together and easily verifiable.
Verdy_p (2020-01-17 22:17:20+00:00): Also the difficulty of the task is not a problem for me. Of course it requires patience and lot of work. I can do that, patiently, calmly.
There may be some intermediate errors but that's not worse than when there's nothing before. Yes the boundaries in Spain are very complex, I do not challenge that. It does not mean they cannot be represented. I do not destroy anything. I'm not spamming arebitrary data, all is checked many times by various methods and lot of searches.
And I've tried to join the talk-es list, this failed, I never received any message (because of installation bugs in the OSM maliling list manager that causes the MLM to receive lot of bounces: the OSM servers are not properly installed and they forcibly unsubscribe many people)
unodecrespos (2020-01-17 22:17:56+00:00): I believe nobody here is underestimating your efforts. The problem is your lack of communication with the community. When you don't inform about such delicate modifications, you may be editing things like an elephant in a china shop without even noticing it.
Verdy_p (2020-01-17 22:20:29+00:00): Note: I have no problem for reading Spanish, I just avoid writing talks in Spanish. And not all spanish users even talk Spanish as the country is highly multilingual, including in Aragon (I would have much more problems reading Catalan or Basque, I may interpret Aragonese incorrectly). To limit errors when I write something I just use English but you can reply in Spanish if you prefer, it's not a problem. I have consulted only the talk-es archives but cannot subscribe it.
Verdy_p (2020-01-17 22:23:10+00:00): Also you talked with me positively, so after thinking and searching I started to do the job (I was instructed to do that by someone that told me he had ionformed the Spanish community in messages in Spanish).
I received no message at all, I was just blindly reverted without notice, and even reported in an attempt to block me, even if I had made absolutely no damage at all.
SomeoneElse (2020-01-17 22:25:37+00:00): (somewhat offtopic, but related to talk-es)
> And I've tried to join the talk-es list, this failed, I never received any message (because of installation bugs in the OSM maliling list manager 
To be clear, I have just successfully joined the talk-es mailing list.  From recent IRC discussions, it is likely to be the way that you are bouncing messages between providers that is causing the problem.  Pick an email provider and use it.  Don't try and bounce between a historic wanadoo address and gmail.
unodecrespos (2020-01-17 22:44:16+00:00): Of course I talked with you positively, same as I'm doing right now. But the point of my messages was: "join the community and open a discussion about comarcas before doing anything else". You didn't start any open dialogue and you continued editing province after province. And if you experienced technical problems in joining the mailing list, you never mentioned it.
Apart from that, I didn't 'instruct' you to do anything and I'm not your spokesman in the Spanish community. I merely notified that there was someone meddling with borders without informing.
Verdy_p (2020-01-17 23:05:30+00:00): The technical problem of the OSM list server is in their DNS, and the fact the MLM breaks DKIM, and DMARC, leaving only SPF. Not all mail providers support SPF (note: Wanadoo is NOT historic, it is a brand of Orange, a major ISP in France, and lot of French users are forcibly unsubscribed without notice as the mails sent by the OSM MLM are bouncing systematically. Technically the digital signatures for DKIM and DMARC are broken, so the recipient service provider try to check if these mails were usurpated or modified. As all supported check fail because of incorrect installation of OSM MLM servers, the talking tools are not working as they should by mail, there are also many other places and OSM has still not worked seriously on consolidating them; tons of OSM users get then blocked unfairly even if they had some talks, they can't reach everyone they'd like to join).
Only this channel (changeset talks) seems stable for now, as well as the private messages on the OSM account of this site. But they are interpersonal tools, not appropriate for mass delivery to all concerned people.
msevilla00 (2020-01-17 23:30:50+00:00): Dear Verdy_p, It seems that all is a lack of communication or/and misinterpretation. Please, try to communicate with us and work together following local collaborators knowledge.
You could also join the community via Telegram group or Riot/Matrix connection:  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:ES:Espa%C3%B1a/Contacto
All we are trying to improve the map... do it together. Cheers