piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
osmmichl (2018-03-15 22:12:39+00:00): Hallo mueschel, hallo Klaus!

Ich versuche anhand von zwei Pilot-POI's (die beiden, die Dir, Klaus, aufgefallen sind) Einträge zu erzeugen, die auch in transformap.org erscheinen (siehe: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_TransforMap).

Leider musste ich feststellen, dass die Doku von transformap an mehreren Stellen widersprüchlich ist, die Ansprechpartner nicht (mehr) zu erreichen sind. Ausserdem gibt es 2 Sichten auf transformap: demo.transformap.org und viewer.transformap.org, die sich massiv unterscheiden.

Der key=SSEDAS_PARTNER (SSEDAS ist nach meinen Recherchen der Haupt-Geldgeber für transformap) kommt in vielen transformap-POI's vor. Inzwischen bin ich mir sicher, dass dieser ausserhalb von OSM gespeichert wird - dynamisch 'irgendwie von aussen' eingebunden oder in einer transformap Datenbank gespeichert wird. 

Nachdem sich für mich der Nebel bzgl. transformap langsam lichtet werde ich die nächsten Tage die beiden Pilot-POI's mit den aus meiner Sicht endgültigen (und selbstverständlich regel-konformen) tags versehen bzw. dann überflüssige tags löschen.

Der key 'identity' kommt durchaus und schon länger in OSM vor - ist leider nicht meine Idee 😉Zur Bedeutung siehe https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/TransforMap#Self-description_of_a_community.

Ciao, Michl
osmmichl (2018-03-15 22:23:36+00:00): Sorry, Nachtrag:
Es muss 'transformap.co' (statt '*.org')

Michl
geow (2018-03-17 22:52:53+00:00): Hi Michl, key=SSEDAS_PARTNER kannst du bitte löschen, den gibt es nur ein einziges Mal in unserer Datenbank und wurde von dir angelegt: 
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=SSEDAS_PARTNER

Die anderen im wiki dokumentierten keys wie z.B. identity, provides etc. kommen einige hundertmal vor, https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/identity#overview

konzentriert auf M-Europa > Karten-Tab.  Aber irgendwie scheint das Projekt eingeschlafen zu sein, weil die letzten Änderungen im wiki von 2015 sind.

Gruß
Klaus
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ent8r (2018-03-15 20:13:25+00:00): Was sollen denn diese massive Anzahl an Nodes in diesem Changeset bezwecken?
Ich fürchte du überschätzt dich ein wenig mit JOSM. Wie gesagt, würde ich dir für den Einstieg äußerst empfehlen erstmal nur iD zu verwenden...
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ent8r (2018-03-15 20:16:28+00:00): Ich hab den Changeset jetzt komplett rückgängig gemacht, weil der für mich gar keinen Sinn macht und keine richtigen Daten enthält!
Gerhard1199 (2018-03-17 16:26:09+00:00): hab ich falsch gemacht, ich weiß das jetzt
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SomeoneElse_Revert (2018-04-28 23:20:06+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changesets 58510954, 58506260, 58507519, 58514650, 58514174, 58505701, 58509392, 58500784, 58512130, 58515035, 58510461, 58506875, 58508734, 58513728, 58513212, 58511524, 58502701, 58504854, 58509968, 58508131, 58512688 where the changeset comment is: Reverting recent unedited changes by Bonya_23, see http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=4355762 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Bonya_23/blocks for laundry list of issues; no communication.
eggie (2018-03-12 16:48:58+00:00): Review: Nu staan er twee tags door elkaar.. Die tag landuse=grass zou ik weghalen en de tag Leisure =dog_park laten staan. surface=grass zou je kunnen toevoegen. Dan rendert het als dog_park.
Hier twee voorbeelden van die hondenveldjes. 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/51.77484/4.66226
De losse bomen kun je toevoegen met natural=tree op nodes.
eggie (2018-03-12 16:56:30+00:00): Je kunt ook even afwachten hoe het rendert. Zie je geen hondenpoten dan zou ik zeker landuse grass weghalen.
Is het niet een officieel hondenuitlaatveld (met bord) dan gewoon de landuse taggen.
eggie (2018-03-14 09:16:41+00:00): Het rendert als gras...Een keuze dus maken welke tag je "moet" verwijderen. 
Dat leisure=dog_park kan ook op een node. Dan heb je functie en landuse.
PLS__PL (2018-06-20 08:03:26+00:00): Jeśli chciałbyś już sobie przygotować rozkład ulic pod centrum przesiadkowym, to możesz użyć podkładu, który przygotowałem pod to miejsce na podstawie planu pokazanego przez Urząd Miasta. Plan znajduje się tutaj: https://mapwarper.net/maps/31629
Jeśli będziesz miał problem z podłączeniem podkładu pod JOSM to daj znać. W ten sposób robiłem też swoje osiedle, ale dróg publicznych (szczególnie tak namotanych jak przy centrum przesiadkowym) raczej się nie tykam.
Josef K (2018-03-13 18:57:04+00:00): Viva,
Reverto pela segunda vez esta alteração porque não há necessidade da tag leisure=park. O zoo é um jardim zoológico, não um parque, certo? Logo, basta a tag tourism=zoo.
Se houver dúvidas pode-se esclarecer na mailing list.
user_5359 (2018-03-12 21:04:17+00:00): Welcome to OSM! Please don't mark the whole property as building. Only mark the building as building.
Constable (2018-03-12 18:57:54+00:00): ciao, perdonami ma qua c'è qualche problemino. Non puoi aggiungere un'area così grande, etichettarla come parco, aggiungere un nome che suona come una descrizione e includere nell'area anche ristorante, acquedotto ed edifici a fianco di via Aceri.
Passo raramente di qua e non sono certo della situazione reale. La recinzione della scuola include parco giochi e gli edifici a ovest di via Aceri?
Se così fosse bisognerebbe ingrandire l'area scuola (quella giallina) ma senza sovrapporla ad altre aree (l'area rossa ad est e forse quella residenziale ad ovest di via Aceri). Il parco giochi se è riservato alla scuola andrebbe in qualche modo etichettato come access=private o simili.
Fammi sapere se posso esserti utile per sistemare.
La scuola che nome ha?
Ciao, grazie
mr_fuji (2018-03-14 10:15:53+00:00): Ciao, guarda effettivamente ho sbagliato nell'includere la pizzeria, per il resto invece è una situazione un po' insolita, perché effettivamente è il cortile della scuola (dovrei controllare se ha un altro nome) però è allo stesso tempo un parco aperto al pubblico ben olte l'orario scolastico, appena riesco passo di li e mi informo bene sulla situazione, grazie dell'avviso!
Constable (2018-03-15 07:57:27+00:00): Ciao, grazie per la risposta e per le modifiche che fai da mesi in zona.
Se il parco resta aperto al pubblico anche in orari extra-scolastici, mi sento di dire che leisure=park possa andar bene come tag. Se ti va, quando passi scrivi qua che ti aiuto volentieri nel caso ti possa far comodo anche il mio parere.
Grazie ancora, ciao!
Lokai (2018-03-12 17:37:13+00:00): Hallo,

der Park stimmt so wohl nicht. Auch andere cs sind auffällig. Prüfe bitte.

Verdacht auf Pokemonedit
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gscholz (2018-06-05 04:31:04+00:00): Hi Jan,
three month ago you changed this bridge to be in contruction. On which source of information is this change based? How long will the construction status last? You added also the bridge is not usable by motor cars. Does this mean pedestrians, cyclists and horses can pass?

I am going to need this bridge in August for my next vacancy in Peru. Can you help me out?

Kind regards
Guido
Jan van Bekkum (2018-06-05 05:22:57+00:00): I am a moderator for iOverlander and received the report from one of the travelers who tried to cross it. I don't have further details now. You can best look it up in iOverlander to see the original comment and any additions.
gscholz (2018-06-05 15:14:56+00:00): Hi Jan,
thanks for your fast reply. Would be interesting to contact the reporting people about passing the bridge/river by foot. The original report is not really rich, It is even not clear where they got the information. 

I have added a link to the original report to the OSM comment. As the brigde seems to be named "Puente Muri" I tried to lookup information about its current state in the internet but failed.

Kind Regards
Guido
gscholz (2018-09-06 04:39:02+00:00): Hi Jan,
on the 13th of August we passed this bridge with our bicycles and found it in a pretty well shape. My impression is that it was broken much longer in OSM than in reality. I have tried to edit the respective hint in the iOverlander App but was not shure how to do this. Max be you can fix it there  not to confuse users any longer.
Guido
gscholz (2018-09-06 04:40:58+00:00): Hi Jan,
one further remark. Doses iOverlander use OSM at all, I only found the google map without any chance to chance this?
Guido
Jan van Bekkum (2018-09-06 05:02:32+00:00): Thanks for the update. I have marked the warning for deletion in iOverlander; it should disappear with the next update.

iOverlander does not use OSM, it downloads and caches a requested area from Google Maps. Offline maps are high on the iOverlander wish list, but couldn't be realized so far due to a lack of developer funding.
Teester (2018-03-13 12:18:16+00:00): You asked for a review of this changeset.

Everything looks good to me!
literan (2018-03-13 11:30:24+00:00): да, все верно!
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user_6110846 (2019-01-29 07:46:28+00:00): повернуто Шадури вул на дорогу між селами
maraf24 (2018-05-10 19:37:04+00:00): Zmiany w zestawie zmian? ;)
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eggie (2020-03-20 15:17:12+00:00): Nu een bijdrage in OSM Nederland... Daarom alsnog Welkom bij OpenStreetMap. Ik heb een uitgebreid welkomstbericht met wat handige tips en links gestuurd als privébericht.
MVG,
Eggie
Constable (2018-03-12 18:31:37+00:00): Ciao, l'etichetta "name" deve indicare il nome proprio di un oggetto mappato, se l'oggetto non ha nome non va inserito nulla come valore. Quest'area sembra si un parco, però il nome non sembra verosimile. I parchi spesso sono intitolati a qualche personaggio storico famoso, il nome "Parco in via Schiavetti" sembra il modo con cui i locali si riferiscono a questo parco.
Inoltre non è mappato correttamente, il parco non deve avere punti in comune con le strade adiacenti, questo punto così non va bene https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1245371849, deve essere disconnesso dalla strada.
Per favore correggi
Grazie, ciao
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chachafish (2018-03-13 15:51:45+00:00): Greetings and welcome to openstreetmap :) Thank you for your additions to the map. I noticed you made some edits, but they aren't finished yet. For example, around Liberty Media in the Denver area you created an area named, "li39558011". If you explain what you are trying to do here, I'm happy to help you finish the work correctly.
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Tim Couwelier (2018-03-15 09:17:35+00:00): Welcome to OpenStreetMap.

Happy to see others picking up efforts towards speed limits. If it's any help, here's a script I use to visualise speeds, (and see where they are missing). Also includes school area's to help you look for 30km/h limits.

If you have any questions, drop me a PM, or pop in to our chatroom:
https://riot.im/app/#/room/#osmbe:matrix.org
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LivInTheLookingGlass (2018-03-12 19:16:59+00:00): Hi! It looks like you just added an area to the map with no other details. I assume this was unintentional, so I'm gonna remove that, since it's currently just map clutter. Feel free to add it back with more detail. For instance, this looks to my eye like it's a school.
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            Published using OSMCha: https://osmcha.mapbox.com/changesets/57121163
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Leo Slager (2018-03-12 19:34:40+00:00): We kijken wel, maar niet op ieder moment van de dag. Is de wijziging van de nodes conform de realiteit ?
Allroads (2018-03-13 13:34:39+00:00): en ik keek ook even
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johnny_1982 (2018-03-14 19:04:00+00:00): Hier wird eine Gleissperre im Gleis zum Heizkraftwerk (https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1881838923) gelöscht, die aber noch da ist. Wieso?
Manuell wieder erstellt.
literan (2018-03-13 11:45:25+00:00): access=no означает, что туда никто никогда пройти не может. Удалил. foot=yes тоже лишний для дорожки, тоже удалил. Если интересно подробнее - см. в моем профиле
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maxerickson (2018-03-15 20:02:57+00:00): Hi-

When two ways have the same corners, they should usually use the same nodes.

This is especially true for something like a building:part where one object is adding detail to the other.


Max
Whaat (2018-03-19 15:11:04+00:00): Kevin was using a beta editor for this changeset.  We are the creators of this editor and we will try to update it so that it will not create duplicate notes the same location for building parts.  Thanks for your comment.
ManuelB701 (2024-11-20 17:28:42+00:00): Rein aus Neugier: Warum glaubst du, dass die Ländchesbahn eine Hauptbahn ist? Sie tickt doch alle Boxen einer Nebenbahn an: Eingleisig, nicht elektrifiziert, Verbindung zwischen zwei Hauptbahnen, langsamere Geschwindigkeiten (nicht höher als 90 km/h), usw.

Da gibt es schon andere Nebenbahnen in Deutschland, die eher usage=main verdienen als die Ländchesbahn.
351293 (2024-11-21 12:53:23+00:00): Hallo Manuel,
ich glaube nicht, ich weiß. Die Klassifizierung nach Haupt- und Nebenbahnen erfolgt zwar im allgemeinen nach ihrer Bedeutung, obliegt aber grundsätzlich nach § 1 Abs. 2 EBO bei Eisenbahnen des Bundes dem jeweiligen Unternehmen. (Hier DB InfraGO AG, ehemals DB Netz AG)
Die Ländchesbahn (3501) ist auch im VzG 2025 als Hauptbahn klassifiziert, was auch im Bezug auf den Betrieb der Infrastruktur (Ausstattung, Verschleißgrenzen, Instandhaltungsfristen) berücksichtigt ist. Auch in den Angaben für das Streckenbuch, Region Mitte ist die La Strecke 55 (Wiesbaden - Niedernhausen) als Hauptbahn beschrieben.
Dies wirkt sich auch auf das anzuwendende Regelwerk für den Triebfahrzeugführer aus.

Die von Dir genannten Punkte sind durchaus Argumente für eine Nebenbahn, die sehe ich vor allem auch aus wirtschaftlicher Sicht - dennoch wird die Strecke eisenbahnrechtlich als Hauptbahn betrieben.
Das ist aber hier in der Tat nach außen hin schwer zu erkennen, am ehesten noch an den Hektometertafeln, die wie bei Hauptbahnen alle 200m, statt alle 500m aufgestellt sind. (Das ist aber auch kein absolutes Kriterium, da Nebenbahnen wie Hauptbahnen ausgestattet sein dürfen)

Ich hoffe ich konnte Deine Frage beantworten.
Liebe Grüße
ManuelB701 (2024-11-21 17:43:23+00:00): Man darf aber auch nicht vergessen, dass wir in OSM von den offiziellen Bezeichnungen auch abweichen dürfen. Die Klassifizierungen der Straßen ist ein gutes Beispiel: Grundsätzlich stimmt highway=primary, secondary und tertiary zu den Bundes-, Landes- und Kreisstraßen überein, aber es gibt auch öfters Fälle, wo wir davon abweichen (z.B. eine Bundesstraße, die highway=secondary oder eine Kreisstraße, die highway=primary ist).
Speziell bei den Eisenbahnen steht auf der Seite für ORM, dass man von der offiziellen Klassifizierung abweichen kann, in dem Fall dass eine öffentliche Hauptbahn wegen der Eingleisigkeit und Fehlen von Oberleitung de facto eine Nebenbahn ist:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:OpenRailwayMap/Tagging_in_Germany

Zum Vergleich: Die nicht weit entfernte Bahnstrecke Alzey-Mainz, ebenfalls eine Haupt- anstelle einer Nebenbahn (insbesondere, dass Geschwindigkeiten für ü. 100 km/h erlaubt sind und die Hektometertafeln werden ebenfalls alle 200 m gesetzt), ist in OSM wegen der Eingleisigkeit und Fehlen von Oberleitungen dennoch als eine Neben- anstelle einer Hauptbahn getaggt.