piebro/osm-data huggingface dataset:
ComicDingBerlin (2019-09-06 16:58:37+00:00): Hallo !bm, besten Dank für die Korrektur und Rückmeldung und das Willkommen.
Leider habe ich keinen Passenderen Eintrag statt dem Punkt gefunden. Gerne hätte ich sowas wie 'Freelancer' oder 'Künstler' oder 'Autor' oder 'Comiczeichner' mit einem chicen Symbol gefunden ... oder eins angelegt ...? Ist sowas auch möglich?
lg ComicDingBerlin
!bm (2019-09-06 18:04:39+00:00): Hey, gerne, nicht gravierend (passiert ständig). Ich habe auf die Schnelle auch nichts besseres gefunden. office=artistic_production müsste es sogar ziemlich genau treffen? (Allerdings auch sehr selten, nur 1 anderer Eintrag in taginfo.) OSM ist ja keine Suchmaschine für Freiberufler, weil diese ja doch sehr spezialisiert ist. Für weitere Info ist ja dann der Verweis auf die Website da. Und wenn du zB auf deiner Website auf den OSM-Node bzw -Kartenausschnitt verweist, ist es sicht- und so für zB Kunden gut auffindbar. Falls du doch noch etwas besser Passendes finden solltest, laß es mich einfach per Kommentar hier wissen. besteGrüße!bm
eggie (2019-09-06 12:16:19+00:00): In het stapeltje adresnodes moet al ergens BAG adresnode 86 zitten. In OSM maken we niet zelf adresnodes aan, maar gebruiken we de reeds bestaande adresnodes.
Je krijgt anders ongewenste dubbelingen.
 Het is soms even zoeken.
In het begin worden edits van (her)starters gevolgd... ook om te helpen.
Gr Eggie
eggie (2019-09-06 12:19:01+00:00): Hier zie ik nog wel de Kadastergegevens erbij staan. Dan zal het ongetwijfeld goed zijn.
eggie (2019-09-06 12:19:06+00:00): http://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=74169905
literan (2019-09-07 12:01:31+00:00): а почему капсом-то все? Не надо КРИЧАТЬ.
Aleksa M (2019-09-06 19:16:17+00:00): Please put name tags and not just name:en tags. They aren't rendered on map. And try not to make typos.
YunDi88 (2019-09-06 20:53:20+00:00): Hello Aleksa, I do not understand what you mean with your message. I am not this specialist ;-) 

you will see that I often put names on the places. But it is not everywhere possible: either it is written in Cyrillic (that I can not write) or it even do not has a name. So e. G. many small hairdressers or supermarkets do not have a name but just write "hairdresser" or "market" in the local language.

I also have one matter. I did 2 or 3 mistakes by putting the tag on the wrong side of the road. There was a time when I could myself erase the mistakes I made, but not now! Do you know if/how I could do? 

Best regards
Dirk

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Hallo YunDi88,

Aleksa Marinski hinterließ einen Diskussionsbeitrag zu einem deiner Änderungssätze, erstellt am 2019-09-06 19:16:17 UTC ohne Kommentar

Aleksa Marinski	
Please put name tags and not just name:en tags. They aren't rendered on map. And try not to make typos.

Weitere Details über den Änderungssatz können gefunden werden unter https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/74169264.
Aleksa M (2019-09-06 21:25:33+00:00): Ok, I wasn't precise enough. I just wanted you not to put only name:en for example on a store named Shop&Go, because we also call it Shop&Go. If I were to map it, I would also write that, but as name tag. So, there is no need for name:en tag. I didn't meant neither hairdresser nor market, nor Cyrillic. Just the aforementioned. And thank you very much for mapping shops, it means a lot, especially in the city centre.
Aleksa M (2019-09-06 21:28:41+00:00): Feel free to ask me if you have some doubts.
YunDi88 (2019-09-07 14:54:38+00:00): Hello Aleksa, thank you for your feedback.
The part "I just wanted you not to put only name:en for example on a store named Shop&Go, because we also call it Shop&Go."  is still not so clear. I think this is coming from the fact that you work with details I do not see e. G. "name:en"??

What I do when I put a new place on the map is always same: mark the location, search for the right category and than if I have a name to write it  and finally safe it. In case of this example of a "Shop&Go" that is not shown on the map I add it with positioning, looking for the "Supermarkt" category, than I write in the field for English language "Shop&Go" and safe it.

By writing it I think that "name:en" is this English name field. Should I use the first serbian field instead because you use this English name also?

I have one more item that can be a reason for misunderstandings. This is only about 6 month I become aware of it. Before some of your colleagues mentioned that I should not create dublicates. Than I once used OpenStreetMap and Wow there were so many places shown. You must know I use Mapsme and I Don t know why but it has much less shops. So I probably add shops that are already on OpenStreetMap. It would be so much better for me if I had them all, because just tagging them is easier than to add.

Today I made a mistake again. But I have no way to erase the mistake. Today I added a second place on same position just to say it is wrong... 

Sorry for me misunderstanding. But because I often use while traveling, so it would be helpful to know how things could be improved. 

Best regards dirk
Aleksa M (2019-09-07 15:47:34+00:00): Ok, I will make things clear. So, a shop named Shop&Go should have tags as following:
name=Shop&Go (the basic name of shop, untranslated)
shop=convenience
name:en or name:sr or any other translation is NOT NECESSARY because it would always be Shop&Go and would just create extra data.
Aleksa M (2019-09-07 15:58:17+00:00): And no, you don't have to enter the name into Serbian language field, because, again, it wouldn't be rendered. Just the name field. But ok, 
I understand you, if your editor isn't advanced enough, continue the practice, I or someone else will add name tag. However, you're doing a great job by adding shops and other stores, because not everyone wants to do that, to go from one shop to another and to map them.
YunDi88 (2019-09-07 20:01:23+00:00): Yes, of course, you are right. "Shop&Go" is a brand name that is not translated to any other language, even not to Serbian.
Unfortunately I could not enclose a Screenshot here, where I could show you the mask that I have to fill out. When I have to enter a name of the shop the "name field" is not just one. I have to decide to either enter the name into the top Serbian , the second English or the last German name field. There is no general name field. I will now use more the Serbian name field, because Serbian do speak good English so that at least also English names become Serbian brand names. 
But let me know if you should do different. 

Thank you for your encouragement, I appreciate it. 
Best regards dirk
mavl (2019-09-08 16:29:40+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 74230370 where the changeset comment is: The changesets are reverted [DWG has the request to revert the changesets. Reason: nonexistent objects - https://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/3144].
eggie (2019-09-06 11:37:42+00:00): Wanneer ik "zoek" op Roobolkapel kom ik op een ander huisnummer uit. Cornelis Roobolstraat 78, 3554BV, Utrecht
Bij een religieuze instelling hoort ook nog denomination=   (protestant?)
MVG,
Eggie
hal_2000 (2019-09-06 11:51:08+00:00): Grappig dat dat huisnummer nog ergens te vinden is. De omnummering in de Geuzenwijk in Utrecht is van de jaren '80, dacht ik. Denominatie voeg ik toe.
voltairovicz (2021-04-02 21:20:25+00:00): Czemu z rond zostały usunięte nazwy. Wyspy na rondach tak się własnie nazywają, może tu nie, ale często są na nich tabliczki z nazwami
Dawid2849 (2021-04-02 21:31:10+00:00): To można dodać tabliczki osobno :) Też nie popieram dodawania nazw rond na trawach.
voltairovicz (2021-04-02 21:41:32+00:00): Nie widzę żadnych przeszkód, rondo kojarzy się przede wszystkim z centralną wyspą, to wokół niej jeździmy, a tak naprawdę to nie jest nazwanie trawy, tylko wyspy centralnej, dodatkowa okazja by poinformować przeglądającego mapy jak się ono nazywa ;)
Rogoyski (2021-04-03 09:18:46+00:00): Bzdura. Tabliczki z nazwami ulic też nie stoją na jezdni, tylko obok, a jakoś nikt nie dodaje nazwy ulicy do chodnika czy trawnika obok jezdni.

I nieprawda, że to nie jest nazywanie trawy. Jeśli dodajesz name=* do obiektu typu landuse=grass to jest właśnie nazywanie trawnika. Jeśli chciałbyś przedstawić wyspę centralną jako element układu drogowego, powinieneś utworzyć osobny obiekt (pewnie coś z serii area:highway=*). 

Komentarz o "dodatkowej okazji" sugeruje zaś, że za bardzo sugerujesz się domyślnym stylem wyświetlania mapy. OSM to przede wszystkim baza danych i fakt, że domyślny styl akurat wyświetla nazwy dla trawników nie powinien wpływać na taki albo inny kształt bazy (tagów).
voltairovicz (2021-04-03 20:45:14+00:00): Bzdura. OSM to przede wszystkim mapa, z której korzystają użytkownicy, a twoja propozycja o dodaniu osobnego obiektu nie ma sensu, skoro się nawet nie wyświetli nigdzie i nikomu nie przyda. Trawnik porasta ronda, jak inaczej to zastąpić, to już czepianie się szczegółów a także tego, że ktoś chce dokładnie przedstawić rzeczywistość na mapie. Po to OSM daje olbrzymią ilość możliwości, aby edytujący mógł z nich korzystać, usuwanie czyichś tagów, w których nie ma nic złego, jest złośliwością. Ja nikomu nic nie usuwam
Rogoyski (2021-04-04 09:09:01+00:00): Kolejne Twoje słowa dowodzą, że nie rozumiesz różnicy między bazą danych OSM a konkretnym stylem wyświetlania. Dodawanie tagów, aby wyświetlały się ładnie w konkretnym stylu mapy jest o dawna opisane jako złą praktyka.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tagging_for_the_renderer
Yunkers (2021-04-04 13:45:00+00:00): Skopiuj tagowanie z Ronda Kocmyrzowskiego jeśli bardzo chcesz, żeby nazwa wyświetlała się ładnie na środku. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/906807462
Nie powinno się nazywać trawników, bo to nie trawnik ma nazwę tylko całe rondo.
voltairovicz (2021-04-04 17:09:15+00:00): Rogoyski: Nie zamierzam popierać takiej małostkowości i czepliwości, to nie jest mój teren, średnio mnie obchodzą te dwa ronda, dlatego nie będę ich edytować i niepotrzebnie szarpał swoich nerwów, dlatego dyskusję kończę   Do Yunkers: A dziękuję bardzo za pokazanie mi ciekawego sposobu, doceniam i jeszcze raz dzięki za przykład ;) Pozdrawiam
Thomas8122 (2019-09-10 08:10:17+00:00): Actually there are many cliffs in Saxon Switzerland. What do you mean with 'MNT data'?
Akkurator (2019-09-13 16:54:03+00:00): Has this automated edit (there are 7 CSs of this kind within 5 minutes) been discussed somewhere before it was done?
freebeer (2019-09-17 01:01:33+00:00): and more to the point, with the fairly extensive discussion on the talk mailing list that i felt concluded the unique cliff features were accurate, is the plan to restore the deleted data by reverting this changeset and the others?  still working on a country-wide retagging with many dozens of thousands of items that is taking quite a while to revert...
Akkurator (2019-09-17 08:43:16+00:00): Is there a link to this "discussion on the talk mailing list"?

Still wondering what "MNT data" is.

Mapper not responding IMO also supports a full revert here.
freebeer (2019-09-17 09:38:29+00:00): i've probably botched the link here but the thread starting with https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2019-September/083236.html .  13 entries.

i can see from viewing this changeset at https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=74171182 these are clearly not continuous topo lines.  i can also see from the changeset details they are a mixture of 10'000 node deletion, and here many lines without the nodes, as divided up by josm, so i am unsure if revert ordering will matter with my commandline tools, that took all day and night yesterday to revert a country-wide mechanical edit retagging FIXMEs.
MichaOSM (2019-09-22 10:44:23+00:00): I have entered most of the data.
I find this type of deletion disproportionate and incomprehensible. Since the data are released in Saxony, they can also be used from my point of view. (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GeoSN_Open_Data)
freebeer (2019-09-23 07:23:25+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 74788815 where the changeset comment is: second try.  i hates netwerking problems.  following talk mailing list discussion, restore micromapped sächs.CH rock formation details, this will take a while
freebeer (2019-09-23 07:33:24+00:00): relation 1750661 last edited in another changeset/by another user (Rongel/74466239)

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1750661 now at v252, forest/valley.  i suspect trying to figure what got lost through these deletions, which i probably should have reverted earlier to avoid these conflicts, is going to be slightly painful with my tools at hand.
MichaOSM (2019-09-23 07:51:03+00:00): Hi freebeer,
Thank you very much :-)
  MichaOSM
Nop (2019-10-02 18:33:16+00:00): I think there still is a problem here. The same tag usually used for macromapping is used for excessive micromapping.
To me, a stone tower with a few meters in diameter is not the same as a 200m cliff side. But with this tagging they are indistinguishable and mess up all topomaps. 
https://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/#15/50.8989/14.3144&num=4&mt0=mapnik&mt1=wanderreitkarte&mt2=hike_bike&mt3=geofabrik-de

The Micromapping should use a different tag or an additional marker, so it can be filtered. This excessive micromapping does not give map creators anything to work with.
Nop (2019-10-02 19:00:08+00:00): As the region is in Germany, I started a new discussion in the German section of the forum.
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=764518#p764518
Vlad (2019-10-13 13:02:41+00:00): I agree with @nop this tagging is nonsense what we have here are NOT cliffs in the sense they are defined on the OSM WIKI page for the tag natural=cliff where for example it is clearly stated : "Also do not use natural=cliff just for mapping an inclined bare rock surface, use natural=bare_rock instead.”
Plus nothing guarantee that the data in the MNT is what is mapped here !
viloan (2019-09-06 11:43:28+00:00): Bem-vindo(a) ao OpenStreetMap e parabéns pela sua primeira edição! :-)

Temos um portal brasileiro sobre o OpenStreetMap, com várias informações úteis em https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brasil

Enquanto você está se acostumando com o OpenStreetMap, é recomendado que sempre pergunte aos usuários mais experientes antes de remover ou modificar objetos do mapa, especialmente aqueles que são aparentemente "estranhos" ou "fora do lugar".

Além disso, pedimos que não copie dados de mapas proprietários (como nomes de ruas do Google Maps, por exemplo) e que mapeie apenas o que existe na realidade.

Se você está mapeando por causa do Pokémon, dê uma olhada em https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/12/01/dicas-para-novos-mapeadores-pokemon-go/?lang=pt-pt
Se você está mapeando por causa do jogo do Harry Potter, as dicas e explicações na página anterior também são úteis para você.

Se tiver qualquer tipo de dúvida você pode entrar em contato com a comunidade brasileira através de algum dos canais disponíveis em https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt:Contact
O canal "Comunidade" do Telegram costuma ser o mais movimentado.

Abraço e boa diversão com suas edições!
viloan (2019-09-06 11:44:34+00:00): Bem-vindo(a) ao OpenStreetMap e parabéns pela sua primeira edição! :-)

Temos um portal brasileiro sobre o OpenStreetMap, com várias informações úteis em https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Brasil

Enquanto você está se acostumando com o OpenStreetMap, é recomendado que sempre pergunte aos usuários mais experientes antes de remover ou modificar objetos do mapa, especialmente aqueles que são aparentemente "estranhos" ou "fora do lugar".

Além disso, pedimos que não copie dados de mapas proprietários (como nomes de ruas do Google Maps, por exemplo) e que mapeie apenas o que existe na realidade.

Se você está mapeando por causa do Pokémon, dê uma olhada em https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2017/12/01/dicas-para-novos-mapeadores-pokemon-go/?lang=pt-pt
Se você está mapeando por causa do jogo do Harry Potter, as dicas e explicações na página anterior também são úteis para você.

Se tiver qualquer tipo de dúvida você pode entrar em contato com a comunidade brasileira através de algum dos canais disponíveis em https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt:Contact
O canal "Comunidade" do Telegram costuma ser o mais movimentado.

Abraço e boa diversão com suas edições!
eggie (2019-09-06 12:20:03+00:00): Ja prima zo.
freebeer (2019-09-23 04:11:39+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 74785291 where the changeset comment is: following talk mailing list discussion, restore micromapped sächs.CH rock formation details, this will take a while
freebeer (2019-09-23 03:56:15+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 74785119 where the changeset comment is: following talk mailing list discussion, restore micromapped sächs.CH rock formation details, this will take a while
freebeer (2019-09-23 03:34:59+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 74784816 where the changeset comment is: following talk mailing list discussion, restore micromapped sächs.CH rock formation details, this will take a while
freebeer (2019-09-23 03:30:44+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 74784738 where the changeset comment is: following talk mailing list discussion, restore micromapped sächs.CH rock formation details, this will take a while
user_5359 (2019-09-07 19:32:26+00:00): Hello, please check the value privateyes of key access. I asumme the value private
karragha (2019-09-09 15:25:47+00:00): 74270074
Hi George,

Thanks for your response. Apologies for the typo. I've corrected the access under changeset #74270074

Regards,
karragha
freebeer (2019-09-23 02:54:46+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 74784256 where the changeset comment is: following talk mailing list discussion, restore micromapped sächs.CH rock formation details, this will take a while
eggie (2019-09-06 12:11:13+00:00): access=yes svp verwijderen
Het is al een ruiterpad. Daar hoeft geen motor_vehicle=no op. vehicle=no is  voldoende om alle "wielen" niet te laten routeren.
Meestal is wandelen niet toegestaan op een ruiterpad.
Gr Eggie
freebeer (2019-09-23 00:47:22+00:00): This changeset has been reverted fully or in part by changeset 74783912 where the changeset comment is: following talk mailing list discussion, restore micromapped sächs.CH rock formation details, this will take a while
eggie (2019-09-06 12:09:03+00:00): Dag hal. Beter geen access=yes taggen. Dat overuled weer.
vehicle=no is voldoende wanneer hier geen voertuigen mogen komen.
Gr Eggie
hal_2000 (2019-09-06 12:31:42+00:00): Okee, dank voor het meekijken. Ik begreep de wiki verkeerd, en zie trouwens alleen motor-vehicle  ipv vehicle (iD editor).
eggie (2019-09-06 12:34:41+00:00): Voor zover ik weet is het pad langs de sloot geen track, maar staat er een bord wandelpad. Rond blauw-de wandelaar met kind. Je zou het dus als highway = footway kunnen taggen. Alles wat geen voetganger is wordt per default geweerd en hoef je niet te taggen.
eggie (2019-09-06 12:37:29+00:00): Klopt, waar editor iD is ook wel heel beperkt. vehicle=no werkt wel, maar als je er een wandelpad van maakt highway=footway hoeft dat niet.
Dat routeert immers alleen voor voetgangers. Een footway heeft altijd een verkeersbord of is duidelijk voor voetgangers bedoeld. Staat er geen bord dan is het highway=path.. Dan wel tweewieler accesstags zetten.
Is het voor vierwielen geschikt dan is het pas een highway  track met een bijbehorende tracktype.

Alle begin is moeilijk :)
user_5359 (2019-09-06 19:30:01+00:00): Welcome to OSM (again)! You added an unknown tag "g Wiltze"="Lake dam" in this change set. Please explain the meaning of the key.
eggie (2019-09-06 12:28:49+00:00): Betreft de bridleway
access=yes verwijderen >gewoon nooit gebruiken.
motor_vehicle =no en bicycle=no vervangen door vehicle=no. Meer vliegen in één klap. 
Op een ruiterpad zal nooit een auto routeren het is default.
Betreft de track... access=yes verwijderen svp.
De track zelf zou je en tracktype mee kunnen geven
tracktype=grade1 bij verhard en tracktype=grade5 bij nauwelijks zichtbaar.
Zie https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NL:Key:tracktype
Mag er echt niet gefietst worden? Of is het alleen maar moeilijk. Dan geen bicycle=no toevoegen. 
De tracktype bepaalt de routering.
T/m tracktype =grade2 zien de fietskaarten het als fietsbaar. Daarboven routeert het als onverhard.
Eggie
eggie (2019-09-06 12:43:28+00:00): Maar ik begrijp nu dat het gewoon een highway=footway is. Die heeft geen tracktype en routeert alleen voor voetgangers. Er routeren dan ook geen fietsers over per default. Je hoeft dat niet aan te geven.
eggie (2019-09-06 12:50:53+00:00): Hier de default restricties per default. Alle wat groen is hoef je niet aan te geven.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions#The_Netherlands

Kwaad kan het overigens niet.
access=yes  en acces==no wel. Dat heeft soms vervelende gevolgen.
hal_2000 (2019-09-06 13:35:49+00:00): Ah duidelijk. In iD editor heb ik nu de mogelijkheid gevonden om tags preciezer aan te passen. 
Het is een veldweg met slagboom ervoor, voor mijn gevoel geen footway  maar ik laat me weer graag corrigeren.  
De aanleiding van deze edit was inderdaad een routering-fout bij het fietsen (brouter).
SpiRiyS! (2019-09-06 12:21:49+00:00): изменил контур 100 домов, добавил контур и название 1 дома
NunoCapeloCaldeira (2019-09-06 22:45:00+00:00): Boa noite, qual o nomes dos três parques que adicionou. Há três parques assim tão próximos uns dos outros? Não serão jardins?

Aguardo resposta.

Cumprimentos
dbarreira (2019-09-13 20:31:43+00:00): Boa noite Nuno,
Sim são próximos e não são jardins. São áreas em calçada com algumas árvores. Coloquei leisure park na etiqueta por semelhança a parques semelhantes que conheço e já estavam aceites neste mapa.
Eles não têm um nome propriamente especifico, mas como ficam próximos da zona da Moita, há quem chame parque da moita.

Algum esclarecimento extra disponha, cumprimentos
NunoCapeloCaldeira (2019-09-13 20:46:17+00:00): Viva, os parques têm equipamentos. se é só áreas de calçada e árvores, é um jardim.
dbarreira (2019-09-15 09:29:52+00:00): Ok, obrigado pelo esclarecimento. Destes 3, o do centro é que tem equipamentos, portanto fica como está certo? Os outros altera-se para jardim? Quais são as etiquetas corretas?
Cumprimentos
NunoCapeloCaldeira (2019-09-15 11:08:39+00:00): sim, alterar para jardim.
berndw (2019-09-07 09:40:06+00:00): Hallo trecht

Nur weil man mit einem Fahrrad durch kommt, muss das keine Erlaubnis zum Radfahren beeinhalten

Ich bin mir nicht ganz sicher, ob dieser Weg in einem Schutzgebiet verläuft, aber ich bin mir ziemlich sicher das die Stadt Bonn das Radfahren auf nicht befestigten Wegen untersagt.

Bitte überprüfe, ob das Radfahren wirklich erlaubt ist, Schilder z.B., und trage es dann ein. Das gilt übrigens auch für Pferde und Ski ;-)

Nur ein explizites 'ist erlaubt' oder 'ist nicht erlaubt' gehört erfasst, alles andere kann man mit description=*, note=* oder FIXME=* eintragen

cu
Bernd
trecht (2019-09-09 07:27:19+00:00): Hallo Bernd,
ich habe kein Verbotsschild gesehen, nur eines welches Motorräder ausschließt. Daher gehe ich davon aus, dass es mit dem Fahrrad erlaubt ist auf Wegen zu fahren, sollange diese erkennbar sind. Es ist sicherlich nicht gestattet, durch Dickicht zu fahren und damit Tiere zu stören.

Danke für deinen Hinweis.
trecht
berndw (2019-09-09 08:33:18+00:00): Hallo 

Vielen Dank für Deine Antwort

Aus der lokalen Presse und aus ein paar Erkundungen vor Ort in den vergangenen Jahren weiß ich, daß im Gebiet um den Dornheckensee viele 'wilde' Downhillstrecken existieren bzw. existiert haben, deswegen auch mein Einwand.

Radfahren ist i.d.R. nur auf befestigten Wegen mit einer Breite von mehr als 2 Metern erlaubt.

http://nsg.naturschutzinformationen.nrw.de/nsg/de/fachinfo/gebiete/gesamt/BN-001K1
Das habe ich gerade gefunden, ist ein NSG.

cu
Bernd