We can do it in a way that doesn't require us to renege on the national debt, which no one's ever held hos- - held - held the whole Congress hostage, saying, If you don't do what I want to do, which is go back to the 2022 budget and make sure that we cut 22 percent across the board in every single thing except defense - which means then you got to raise it to 30 percent to cut across the board and eliminate all these programs - then guess what? [SEP] We're going to renege on the national debt.
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